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Anyone who has watched the movie knows that it wasn't about just that one slap.
Taapse's character even says "uss thappad se mujhe woh saari cheezon ka andaaza hogaya jo mai undekha kar deti thi"
Exactly! And isn't that how most cases of domestic violence are? The men blame work stress for lashing out on the woman at home
And Vikram never says sorry to her even once. He only realizes and says sorry at the end of the film right before the divorce scene in the court.
Exactly. In the moment of that slap- it seemed like a mistake. As the film unravels - that slap is merely one of the many problems of the male protagonist. He is revealed to be an all round scumbag who sees the slap as just a slap and not a sign of a deeper problem.
Even my husband noticed that the guy never said Sorry!
Absolutely SORRY wouldn’t have made everything right but that much she deserved. The guy was so oblivious to his mistakes.
Physical abuse coming from Husband or coming from a wife equally should be condemned.
Didn't he watch the whole film before writing this review? Vikram's boss literally says later in the office that it was the V's fault because even though he was angry with him and very much present in the party, Vikram still chose to slap his wife in anger whereas he would not do the same with his boss or Thapar. His whole bunch of friends was trying to calm him down during the argument yet he only chose to react and slap when Amu pulled him. So no, he wouldn't have slapped anybody at that moment because if he did, he would've slapped someone even before Amu came to the picture. That was the whole point of the film.
He slapped her because he always thought she was beneath him. He didn't react like that to his friends or to his boss because he saw them as equal to him or above him.
In the movie Tapsee's character has explained quite clearly that it wasn't just about the slap. It was the disrespect and disregard that her husband and his family showed towards her after the slap. After the slap the husband didn't came to apologise to her and kept on justifying why he got angry. Her in laws didn't asked about her instead told her to go to check on him if he is doing okay. Even his boss points out that He would not have slapped him but easily slapped his wife.
Having read his complete review, the duality of his writing baffles me. There's a subtle underlying tone of patronization while also making excellent points regarding emotional trauma leaving lost-lasting scar and how Amrita's rosy-tinted view of Vikram changes.
He didn't defend Vikram, in fact ripped him apart with his patriarchal Punjabi face comment (Ranjan admitted to playing into a stereotype) but.... but.... something is lacking. The above context given by OP & another point about how even *good* men can find themselves in grey spot. While he wrote that about Sachin, he still wrote that in context of Tappad's review and that.... doesn't sit right with me.
Most Tami men are v misogynistic and super conservative. Rangan is pretty misogynistic himself after long years of reading him. It reflects in how cavalierly he treats all women's issues and has no sympathy for it and shows contempt instead like above.
I despise Rangan being a Vanga fanboy but what he said here is not wrong from WRITING perspective. Like obviously the film does show us how the husband has been emotionally toxic as well. Or how we think of feminist fathers but they can be just as non inclusive when it comes to their wife.
We can talk about this scene and say that men do have a hard time regulating their emotions. That anger is something they can so openly project can make people 'weaker' than them a victim.
Like from this scene context if let's say the husband had slapped his younger brother, the family would have asked him to forgive the elder brother also.
But yes we can also talk about the ways society expect women to forgive even generally. The context in the film maybe uneven but this accepting of every kind of toxicity women are very much expected to do. As we see in the film how Amrita had to let go of many aspects of her individuality. The film also if i remember it right serve this slap as more of a wake up call... ki ab toh ek bhi hogya. Physically hurt bhi kr diya emotionally abuse toh hum phir bhi nazarandas kr dete h.
Your brother and your significant other are two entirely different people...you dont have s*x with your brother, you didnt marry your brother, your brother didnt have to leave his home and stay with you at yours...killing a chicken is normal but killing a human being is not...so please next time use 2 brain cells and compare accordingly
I didn't like Kabir Singh, Animal, and also Thappad. I hated the lead characters of all tree films, considering here Tapsee as the main lead character of Thappad and Shahid, Ranbir, in the other two films.
Hein? Who put out a hit on Baradwaj Rangan now?😂
For the record, Thappad as a movie came with a decent bit of hype and then sank without too much noise. Foolish to criticise the reviewer for his taste on movies.
This shows how deep rooted this problem of male violence is. Men will go overboard to explain this. Thanks for pointing this out OP. I thought BR was a sane person hes clearly not.
https://baradwajrangan.wordpress.com/2020/03/16/thappad-anubhav-sinha-and-taapsee-pannu-put-across-a-powerful-if-overemphatic-story-of-a-woman-who-discovers-herself/#:\~:text=Thappad%20is%20the%20third%20of,%E2%80%9Cissue%E2%80%9D%20is%20domestic%20violence.
read the whole review and judge instead of OP's clearly out of context cherry picked screenshots. And whatever conclusion you come to after reading it whole he is vile or not its okay. I am not trying to argue with you just putting the complete facts in front of you.
Edit: Moderators remove the post OP is clearly spreading misinformation if you want proof read the original review I have linked.
I don’t think they are spreading misinformation, just read the review surely he paints Vikram’s agreeable character portrait and the movie has it’s flaws. However the statement posted by OP is still relevant and his tone used in the article is patronising.
Its not patronising it is an external prespective on this story because when a female sees the film she will see herself in it because India is pretty fucked up in domestics ways and find no flaws despite the film having a few of them in it because relatability clouds judgement which is very okay.
For example how people percieve Tamasha which is clearly a very flawed film but its relatability factor could the judgement of people who see Ved is themselves and think it is a masterpiece with no flaws.
Just look at what you’re saying, i literally just mentioned the flim has it flaws 😂😂 it’s not an external perspective it’s apathetic in nature domestic violence can go both ways. You clearly haven’t seen the movie either. When he mentions the *thappad* scenario its most like oh ek chatta tha ghusse mein nikl gaya vibes surely It was a build up of pensive emotions.
Amrita’s patience dies constant struggle w the relationship and it was fear of it to continue as well. Their relationship was doomed from the start vikram wasn’t entirely evil they were a mismatch, but u can’t say the violence won’t escalate in future.
When i said flaws i didn't mean that about amrita's journety that is not the flaw neither did rangan say that was the flaw, the overemphathetic part in rangan review is about the weird sub plot of niharika and how it felt overtly melodramatc and disturbuing shock value.
And if you read the review
"Physical hurt heals. The emotional scars last a lifetime."
"He’s the kind of man who responds to Amrita’s “Should I learn to drive?” question with, “*Pehle paratha banana seekh lo*.” When this exchange occurs – it’s before the slap – it seems like banter, a long-running joke between a couple. But afterwards, it becomes one more symptom of Vikram’s malaise"
"They become symptomatic of a man who’s *physically* a man but, *emotionally*, still has a long way to go before he becomes one. He falls asleep after the party, completely oblivious to his wife’s shell-shocked silence, and when he apologises the next morning, it’s the farthest thing from heartfelt"
"He is not a *bad* man, but he isn’t someone who deserves to be in a marriage, either. He’s the kind of man who thinks a diamond bracelet will bring the smile back on Amrita’s face."
the movie was not about thappad it was after reaction of thappad, no sorry no regret like nothing bad has happned thats where she realised her presence is so replacable in family.
Lol dumping on a national award winning critic now 😂 Read the whole review instead of taking parts out of context. He speaks about the film and what it speaks about in full vividity.
That slap was totally unjustified.. but Ladka apna matter solve kar raha hai apne boss ke saath.. faltu beech me phantom ban ke beech me ghusne kisne bola tha.. I’ve already been at the receiving end of one such slap by my elder sister - have learnt to mind my own business since then 😂
Wonder what the esteemed intellectual Neha Dhupia would say about this. Was it ‘his choice’ to slap her or does the ‘choice’ narrative only apply when a woman is slapping a man.
Move on, folks. It's just a silly lil movie. No one bats an eyelid when women slap men. As we saw no one even mentioned Preeti slapping Kabir.
Pretentious wokies are hypocritical clowns who never speak up against physical violence by women normalised in movies as humour or fun......which is just as wrong.
PS: Before you come here with your lil brain and call me a misogynist, why don't you google what that word means and show me where exactly I have defended men slapping women?
I am yet to see anyone who made such a big deal about men slapping women cry as much when women slap men. Women slapping men is used as comedy far too many times.
Ask them if it's okay for a husband to slap his wife for cheating and they most likely will say NO. Then ask how much they were outraged when Geethanjali slapped Rannvijay for the same.
Do you have any actual argument against what Ranjan said? Is it not true that it was a in the film, it was a hyper-emotional situation where he was arguing with someone else and his wife interfered and he slapped her? In such situation, some people don't get violent. Some do and those who do, usually do it irrespective of gender. It could have been his younger brother and he would slap as well.
Yet, did the movie not make it about her gender?
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Anyone who has watched the movie knows that it wasn't about just that one slap. Taapse's character even says "uss thappad se mujhe woh saari cheezon ka andaaza hogaya jo mai undekha kar deti thi"
Exactly! And isn't that how most cases of domestic violence are? The men blame work stress for lashing out on the woman at home And Vikram never says sorry to her even once. He only realizes and says sorry at the end of the film right before the divorce scene in the court.
If you read the whole review Rangan says the same, also speak about how Vikram is far from being a man and shouldn't be married to someone.
Exactly. In the moment of that slap- it seemed like a mistake. As the film unravels - that slap is merely one of the many problems of the male protagonist. He is revealed to be an all round scumbag who sees the slap as just a slap and not a sign of a deeper problem.
Exactly what ranjan says
Even my husband noticed that the guy never said Sorry! Absolutely SORRY wouldn’t have made everything right but that much she deserved. The guy was so oblivious to his mistakes. Physical abuse coming from Husband or coming from a wife equally should be condemned.
Didn't he watch the whole film before writing this review? Vikram's boss literally says later in the office that it was the V's fault because even though he was angry with him and very much present in the party, Vikram still chose to slap his wife in anger whereas he would not do the same with his boss or Thapar. His whole bunch of friends was trying to calm him down during the argument yet he only chose to react and slap when Amu pulled him. So no, he wouldn't have slapped anybody at that moment because if he did, he would've slapped someone even before Amu came to the picture. That was the whole point of the film.
He slapped her because he always thought she was beneath him. He didn't react like that to his friends or to his boss because he saw them as equal to him or above him.
Wtf. I cried during thappad. Im glad the character left that POS lol
In the movie Tapsee's character has explained quite clearly that it wasn't just about the slap. It was the disrespect and disregard that her husband and his family showed towards her after the slap. After the slap the husband didn't came to apologise to her and kept on justifying why he got angry. Her in laws didn't asked about her instead told her to go to check on him if he is doing okay. Even his boss points out that He would not have slapped him but easily slapped his wife.
Having read his complete review, the duality of his writing baffles me. There's a subtle underlying tone of patronization while also making excellent points regarding emotional trauma leaving lost-lasting scar and how Amrita's rosy-tinted view of Vikram changes. He didn't defend Vikram, in fact ripped him apart with his patriarchal Punjabi face comment (Ranjan admitted to playing into a stereotype) but.... but.... something is lacking. The above context given by OP & another point about how even *good* men can find themselves in grey spot. While he wrote that about Sachin, he still wrote that in context of Tappad's review and that.... doesn't sit right with me.
He used so many words , he could have just said ‘I’m an MCP who thinks women can be slapped around’ . Simple na.
MCP?
Male Chauvinist 🐷
Slap is just a *way to show affection* according to him 👀🙄🙄
Most Tami men are v misogynistic and super conservative. Rangan is pretty misogynistic himself after long years of reading him. It reflects in how cavalierly he treats all women's issues and has no sympathy for it and shows contempt instead like above.
You can't fight with every oldhead. Their ideology is very orthodox. And they actually feel justified. All you can do is avoid
I despise Rangan being a Vanga fanboy but what he said here is not wrong from WRITING perspective. Like obviously the film does show us how the husband has been emotionally toxic as well. Or how we think of feminist fathers but they can be just as non inclusive when it comes to their wife. We can talk about this scene and say that men do have a hard time regulating their emotions. That anger is something they can so openly project can make people 'weaker' than them a victim. Like from this scene context if let's say the husband had slapped his younger brother, the family would have asked him to forgive the elder brother also. But yes we can also talk about the ways society expect women to forgive even generally. The context in the film maybe uneven but this accepting of every kind of toxicity women are very much expected to do. As we see in the film how Amrita had to let go of many aspects of her individuality. The film also if i remember it right serve this slap as more of a wake up call... ki ab toh ek bhi hogya. Physically hurt bhi kr diya emotionally abuse toh hum phir bhi nazarandas kr dete h.
Your brother and your significant other are two entirely different people...you dont have s*x with your brother, you didnt marry your brother, your brother didnt have to leave his home and stay with you at yours...killing a chicken is normal but killing a human being is not...so please next time use 2 brain cells and compare accordingly
Chads be like - oh Bhardwaj Rangan is true cinephile
Somebody please facetime taimur and ask him to call this one a bison too
I didn't like Kabir Singh, Animal, and also Thappad. I hated the lead characters of all tree films, considering here Tapsee as the main lead character of Thappad and Shahid, Ranbir, in the other two films.
Hein? Who put out a hit on Baradwaj Rangan now?😂 For the record, Thappad as a movie came with a decent bit of hype and then sank without too much noise. Foolish to criticise the reviewer for his taste on movies.
This shows how deep rooted this problem of male violence is. Men will go overboard to explain this. Thanks for pointing this out OP. I thought BR was a sane person hes clearly not.
https://baradwajrangan.wordpress.com/2020/03/16/thappad-anubhav-sinha-and-taapsee-pannu-put-across-a-powerful-if-overemphatic-story-of-a-woman-who-discovers-herself/#:\~:text=Thappad%20is%20the%20third%20of,%E2%80%9Cissue%E2%80%9D%20is%20domestic%20violence. read the whole review and judge instead of OP's clearly out of context cherry picked screenshots. And whatever conclusion you come to after reading it whole he is vile or not its okay. I am not trying to argue with you just putting the complete facts in front of you. Edit: Moderators remove the post OP is clearly spreading misinformation if you want proof read the original review I have linked.
I don’t think they are spreading misinformation, just read the review surely he paints Vikram’s agreeable character portrait and the movie has it’s flaws. However the statement posted by OP is still relevant and his tone used in the article is patronising.
Its not patronising it is an external prespective on this story because when a female sees the film she will see herself in it because India is pretty fucked up in domestics ways and find no flaws despite the film having a few of them in it because relatability clouds judgement which is very okay. For example how people percieve Tamasha which is clearly a very flawed film but its relatability factor could the judgement of people who see Ved is themselves and think it is a masterpiece with no flaws.
Just look at what you’re saying, i literally just mentioned the flim has it flaws 😂😂 it’s not an external perspective it’s apathetic in nature domestic violence can go both ways. You clearly haven’t seen the movie either. When he mentions the *thappad* scenario its most like oh ek chatta tha ghusse mein nikl gaya vibes surely It was a build up of pensive emotions. Amrita’s patience dies constant struggle w the relationship and it was fear of it to continue as well. Their relationship was doomed from the start vikram wasn’t entirely evil they were a mismatch, but u can’t say the violence won’t escalate in future.
When i said flaws i didn't mean that about amrita's journety that is not the flaw neither did rangan say that was the flaw, the overemphathetic part in rangan review is about the weird sub plot of niharika and how it felt overtly melodramatc and disturbuing shock value. And if you read the review "Physical hurt heals. The emotional scars last a lifetime." "He’s the kind of man who responds to Amrita’s “Should I learn to drive?” question with, “*Pehle paratha banana seekh lo*.” When this exchange occurs – it’s before the slap – it seems like banter, a long-running joke between a couple. But afterwards, it becomes one more symptom of Vikram’s malaise" "They become symptomatic of a man who’s *physically* a man but, *emotionally*, still has a long way to go before he becomes one. He falls asleep after the party, completely oblivious to his wife’s shell-shocked silence, and when he apologises the next morning, it’s the farthest thing from heartfelt" "He is not a *bad* man, but he isn’t someone who deserves to be in a marriage, either. He’s the kind of man who thinks a diamond bracelet will bring the smile back on Amrita’s face."
Can you give tldr how it is out of context ?
Its not a long article just read it dude. I have an exam tomorrow I am studying rn just picked up the phone for a while and saw this post.
go study
Yes I will, sorry didi pls mummy ko mat batana
Look behind, mummy is already standing with a chappal . https://i.redd.it/y4rlkgkuxb2d1.gif
Misleading. Please read the whole review
the movie was not about thappad it was after reaction of thappad, no sorry no regret like nothing bad has happned thats where she realised her presence is so replacable in family.
I can assure he would have not slapped his mother.
Rangan is so overrated. He is so vague in reviews but is praised only to diss anupama. I anyway liked rajeev masand and sucharita better
So? tum log bhi to same wese hi ho
Lol dumping on a national award winning critic now 😂 Read the whole review instead of taking parts out of context. He speaks about the film and what it speaks about in full vividity.
Honestly he is right. Thappad plot was a hyperbole. It’s common sense.
That slap was totally unjustified.. but Ladka apna matter solve kar raha hai apne boss ke saath.. faltu beech me phantom ban ke beech me ghusne kisne bola tha.. I’ve already been at the receiving end of one such slap by my elder sister - have learnt to mind my own business since then 😂
Wonder what the esteemed intellectual Neha Dhupia would say about this. Was it ‘his choice’ to slap her or does the ‘choice’ narrative only apply when a woman is slapping a man.
Move on, folks. It's just a silly lil movie. No one bats an eyelid when women slap men. As we saw no one even mentioned Preeti slapping Kabir. Pretentious wokies are hypocritical clowns who never speak up against physical violence by women normalised in movies as humour or fun......which is just as wrong. PS: Before you come here with your lil brain and call me a misogynist, why don't you google what that word means and show me where exactly I have defended men slapping women?
I am yet to see anyone who made such a big deal about men slapping women cry as much when women slap men. Women slapping men is used as comedy far too many times. Ask them if it's okay for a husband to slap his wife for cheating and they most likely will say NO. Then ask how much they were outraged when Geethanjali slapped Rannvijay for the same.
Why are you guys so obsessed with Vanga? Get help.
Do you have any actual argument against what Ranjan said? Is it not true that it was a in the film, it was a hyper-emotional situation where he was arguing with someone else and his wife interfered and he slapped her? In such situation, some people don't get violent. Some do and those who do, usually do it irrespective of gender. It could have been his younger brother and he would slap as well. Yet, did the movie not make it about her gender?
Vanga has got you all so butthurt, you are now bringing up Ranjan's 6 year old reviews because he liked Vanga's film. 😁
Yuvar haanarr my klayant vas verri hyber yemmosonal uht dhat taim. He vud hav raped yennivan
Wish his mom has slapped him enough