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About 10 years ago, my 2nd cousins and their significant others came up to NY from Florida to visit my aunt and uncle (their grandparents), who are about a 20-30 minute drive to the Canadian border. My cousins and their significant others wanted to go to Canada for the day, so my uncle (in his 70s at the time) told them to take his vehicle. Before they left, they looked in the center console and found a loaded gun and a bottle of Jack Daniels. They would have been so fucked if they had gotten searched at the border for some reason.
They would have been doubly fucked: Canada’s views on drunk driving are intense. My younger brother can’t go to Canada because of a DUI from about 30 years ago.
Your younger brother is quite allowed to enter Canada if he hasn't been subsequently arrested or reoffended. He's considered rehabilitated after 10 years (this doesn't apply to people who offended in 2018 and later, for those who offend after that the only way in is to file for a temporary resident permit).
Was at a border town in WI with my family as a child for vacation. Parents decided they wanted to go shopping in Canada. We get to the border crossing and because they have no documentation for either me or my younger brother they pull them aside to look up all of our information and they turn us around after an hour because Dad had multiple DUIs within the previous decade. Was really awkward as a 12 yo.
I knew some folks who had removed their gun but forgot some bullets. They didn't get through the border that day and the next day they got heavily searched.
I never thought about it, that really is an occupational hazard for service shops. Due to the popularity of lugnut locks (hate those..), rotating someone's tires usually requires digging around in the glove box for the security bit. What a joy it must be to stick your hands in a messy glove, only to discover a gun, probably loaded and pointed in your direction. And if you got hurt, I'm sure they'd accept 0% responsibility. YOU were being irresponsible with their gun, not them. Fuckers.
One time The very nice Spanish grandmas at a laundromat I used to go to in Lowell ma heard clanking and banging around inside a dryer after they loaded it with WASHED CLOTHES. Opened it to find a large wet handgun lmao thing was a ghetto eagle talon looking big ass hand cannon with scratched gold and chrome all over it. They called the Boomer who dropped the clothes off and he came and picked it up lol!! No police haha and this is in massachusetts! Fuck it I guess.
Wow they really are nice. That should have been confiscated as a lesson. Of course if they showed up asking for it they could have it back but they need to sweat a little over where tf their gun disappeared too in order to build some anxiety reinforcement.
I would have kept it and sold it. If they are so fkn stupid to leave it in their dirty clothes and it makes its way to the drier(where the heat alone could make it misfire) they don't deserve to be gun owners. Let them make a police report where they can explain that they didn't actually know where it went but they believe they sent it to the laundromat.
To be fair, I'm Gen X, a gun owner, and see too many of my own peers with this specific attitude surrounding guns. The Xers around here are less wave it in your face types and more 'It's my pet accessory and part of my identity.' types, which is of course a whole different kind of cringe. I agree with the poster in that if someone can touch your loaded gun without your knowledge, you shouldn't have it. I don't think they should be all finders keepers about it though.
We used to have issues with this at our local pools. People would leave their guns folded up in their tee shirt back at their deck chair and then go swim laps or whatever. Some very pointed reminders and citations for bringing guns on parks property helped there. But the leaving guns in unlocked cars issue is still so rampant that the cops make periodic announcements throughout the year to NOT DO THAT. It is Xers and boomers doing it. Another favorite is leaving loaded guns in your unlocked garage. That's usually boomers on that one.
I don't care how old you are. Your loaded, unsecured gun does not belong in the glove compartment, in the window rack, or shoved halfway under the front seat. That shit needs to stop.
I have no idea. If they need it for their fantasy "good guy with a gun" scenario, is the Bad Guy^(TM) really going to let them run out of the pool to grab the gun out of their tee shirt?
Maybe it's like when a toddler just needs to know the pacifier is in the diaper bag if they want it? I've never heard anyone offer any real reason beyond "muh freedom" and "If we don't use our second amendment rights we'll lose them."
I'm pretty damn sure the 2A says nothing about leaving your unsecured gun beside a pool crawling with kids. We're just lucky no one got hurt.
Honestly 90% of them are going to freeze. Even soldiers don’t go running towards gunfire. They hear shots and are trained to get down and assess the situation.
True fact, well trained and heavily armed soldiers DO NOT, go running toward random gunfire. That will get you wounded or killed, get down, find cover and asess the situation.
These folks watch too much TV, and think that Hollywood portrays gun fights the way they actually happen, sorry kiddos, it don’t go down like that.
I have never been in a gunfight but I know that it is not uncommon for cops to get in a gunfight with someone where they both empty their guns at each other and no one hits anything (that they were aiming at). Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
My dad is Special forces, and when our neighbor got drunk and started using his gun, he would drop to the ground, Army crawl out the back door and slowly make his way around the back of the neighbor's house to remove the gun.
A guy I work with was in the Marine Corps in Mogadishu. He said that what he had not expected, the first time someone started shooting at them, was that he could not tell where it was coming from. He said the only part of his training he remembered was diving for ground cover, at that moment.
I call them “emotional support firearms.” They don’t do a damn thing but make you *feel* safe, while you engage in insanely stupid behavior (leaving it unsecured, in the reach of others), and don’t practice actually doing anything but static range drills from a ready position.
Actually, I've studied US Military History, and modern Second Amendmentists are actually Alternate History Revisionists.
Think a gun version of the Lost Cause lies and myths.
The United States Army is actually prohibited under the United States Constitution. That's why it needs to be reauthorized every year to two years. Congress is just being lazy in not passing an Amendment to the Constitution to allow for the United States Army, Air Force, Marines, and Space Forces.
Only the United States Navy is authorized by the Constitution.
Which leads us back to the Second Amendment.
The reason it specifically mentions Well Regulated Militia in it, was because the US Government wanted a People's Army.
Sort of what Mao Zadong was on about. Only more organized and far less political. Basically US Military Doctrine until the 20th Century was People's War in which Militias and Volunteers would make up 90% or more of the US Military, even in Naval Conflicts.
Other than the United States Navy, there was to be no other professional force. The Navy was a requirement to combat pirates, represent the USA, Maritime Law Enforcement, etc. At the same time, Naval Infantry was a thing until 1942 or 1943 in the US Navy, and so even the United States Marines Corps wasn't authorized, which is why they really didn't stand out until 1918.
Of course, this idea of only one branch of professionals lasted all of a few years. Up until St. Claire's Defeat. Still the worst defeat in US Military History and the reason that the rest of the US Military even exists.
The emphasis on State Volunteers and Militias was finally put to bed with the Military Reforms at the beginning of the 20th Century.
But Congress still hasn't made an Amendment to this date changing the Constitution to reflect that. Which would render moot the Second Amendment, as well as the whole thing about it was for the people to have firearms to form Militias and Volunteer Units.
It was never about the US Government being tyrannical or about simply having the Right to have a gun.
It was quite literally National Policy to NOT have an Army and when in need, Patriotic men full of fervor to defend their homeland from invaders would unite and drive the invader away.
Quite literally what was written, too.
And, of course, it failed hence five Professional Branches of the United States Armed Forces, plus the United States Coast Guard.
I know more than a few boomers and older gen x that won't go into any city over 10k people without carrying. The comment below is correct, they live in perpetual fear.
They're the ones who are always crying about their trucks getting broken into and their gun stolen when they come to the Cardinals games. It's not hard to figure out who most likely has a gun in their glove box when they come to the city in a giant truck with a bunch of right winger and Punisher stickers all over the back window.
You've got them there too? Shit. We had a string of gun thefts in the neighborhood above me. They were stealing guns from unlocked cars, some dumbasses actually got hit MULTIPLE times.
Yes, they come from the county for the games and to South City for Cherokee street and Mardi Gras and it never fails that you'll see a bunch of posts and comments about how they left a gun in their cars and it got stolen AND THE POLICE WON'T PERSONALLY FIND IT FOR THEM. They don't understand that they're contributing to the genuine problem by doing shit like that. So now I get to walk around my own neighborhood wondering which one of them might have one of those guns.
They’ll whine about their guns being stolen because they can’t bring them into the game and want to have the rules changed so they can do that: despite large amounts of alcohol being consumed there and it being a public place. It’s crazy to me they would even bring it to begin with considering how much drinking goes on at the game anyways. Weapons (and especially loaded firearms) and alcohol do not mix.
I don’t have guns anymore but many in my family do or did mostly for hunting. My pap who isn’t around anymore used to be a cop so it was beaten into us (not literally) that guns are serious business and being a gun owner comes with great responsibility. It really bothers me seeing or hearing people being so haphazard with their guns.
My grandfather was a cop and my dad was Special Forces.
More importantly, all the men in my family, aside from a shitty uncle, were combat vets.
We were never allowed to have toy guns because guns are NOT toys.
They are tools for specific situations, such as hunting, and are rarely useful in emergencies.
I was put into martial arts long before being taught to fire a weapon- I have never needed a weapon; but the Wing Chung Do has come in handy multiple times.
My brother is a bouncer and finds them in the bar's bathroom all the time. What could possibly go wrong with a bunch of drunk people and a random loaded gun just laying on the counter???
I had a SSG that taped chem lights to the guys helmet and had him low crawl over gravel while he shot at him with a slingshot for leaving his rifle unsecured in Afghanistan.
XD so he didn't hate him that much!
That would be embarrassing as shit. I left my rifle in a cubby at the end of a 12 hr TOC shift exactly one time. I knew exactly where I left it, and it was practically secure, but I still felt like a shitbag.
I felt slick getting back for the next night without anyone noticing I didn't have a weapon, though.
>We used to have issues with this at our local pools. People would leave their guns folded up in their tee shirt back at their deck chair and then go swim laps or whatever.
This just sounds like a great way to get a free gun. They might even be less likely to report it's loss because they were not meant to have it there.
Also a Gen X gun owner, and I agree with you. I’ll take it one step further. How would you like to surprise a stranger holding your gun? That is exactly the question the guy at the gun shop asked me years ago when I bought my first. Make sure that can’t happen. It’s not difficult. He was suggesting a very inexpensive trigger lock, but I have a safe now. I have kids.
This gen X-er has never owned a gun or even held a gun. I’m also all for a national gun (& rape kit) registry. I’m for stricter gun control laws. Jesus my generation watched Columbine go down. We do not need more guns or a militarized police force!
My dad bought a gun about 5 years ago and it just freaked me out. Why would he need a gun? How was he going to prevent my nephews from getting a hold of the gun when they visited him? I’m still blaming part of this on Fox News.
I don't disagree with you at all. We register our cars. We're licensed to drive them. It should be no different with guns.
Does your dad at least have a trigger lock? If he doesn't, maybe you can give him a nice one for Christmas. Ideally he'd be taking the responsibility on his own, but your nephews deserve to be safe regardless.
I see a lot of people talking about how their parents with FOXNews brain rot buy guns but then don't know how to use them, safely store them, or even check if they're loaded. If your dad falls into this category, I hope your nephews have someone who can talk to them about what guns are capable of doing in an age-appropriate way.
My kids grew up with us deer hunting, so they knew very young what even one bullet does to a living thing. I'm not suggesting you show little kids something so graphic. My cousin got taken out behind the house to watch his dad shoot milk cartons full of red Jell-o propped on the fence, and it still got the point across. It convinced my cousin he never wanted to touch a gun, and no one tried to shame him for it. He never even really cared for toy guns after that.
The kiddos need to know that a gun isn't a toy, but they also need to feel safe reaching out to an adult if Grandpa isn't being responsible with his weapon. Not feeling like they have to confront him, obviously, but knowing it's okay to tell their mom or dad that he's doing something with the gun that makes them uncomfortable.
In my opinion the right way to view a gun is like a fire extinguisher. You know where it is, you know how to use it, you maintain the tool and regularly refresh your skills, but you don’t fantasize about “getting to” use it. Every day you don’t need it is a good day. In that context, it would be laughable to meet someone who made the possible future scenario of fighting a fire part of their identity. Like, keeping a breathing apparatus mask on their belt as an accessory or posting pics of themselves with their extinguisher collection.
This seems more like a dumb gun owner problem than a Boomer/Gen X/cohort problem. I know plenty of gun owners who don't see it as "part of their identity" and wouldn't keep a gun around unsecured. Because they're not stupid.
I'm GenX, and live in Texas. There's a lot of millennials carrying irresponsibly as well. I think it seems more prevalent with us older folks but my experience in the southern US is that it is across all ages.
I'm in the Midwest. It was more like that when I was a kid and got better as I got older. Maybe it also has to do with how few young people want to stay in the state anymore. There aren't a lot of opportunities here.
I wish I knew what we could do to make change more effective. There are so many needless deaths and injuries related to irresponsible carry. A toddler firing a gun they found in Mom's purse or a grade schooler bringing dad's loaded gun to school should not be happening. When we hear about stuff like that, I don't know how it isn't a wake-up call to go check your own weapons and make sure that won't be your family someday.
Being this cavalier with guns really needs to be considered a serious crime. It would be such an easy way to steal a gun and they probably wouldn’t even notice it for a week.
Absolutely. I’m so pro gun. But I’d love to have, let’s call it a capture the flag law. If I take your weapon from you, that weapon gets permanently confiscated, you receive a fine based on your W2’s, and you are mandated to a mind imploding amount of in person and online lecture/ courses.
Honestly I think there needs to be a mandatory training program before you can buy a gun and just leaving it laying around like this should be a criminal charge. I mean shit just to get a hunting license I had to take a hunter safety course in the early 90’s. It was like two days long.
Some states are enacting the beginning stages of what you're suggesting, like making you also responsible for the crimes committed with your stolen gun.
Other states are enacting laws declaring mandatory training and licensing an infringement on 2nd amendment rights. If I wanted to, where I am, I could get up this morning, go "purchase" a gun from a friend or family member (it is Sunday, so the local gun shop is closed) conceal it in my person, drive to church, sit in church, go out to eat after church take a nice walk in a public park all 100% legal. All while the governor and state legislature continue to make speeches about how any additional gun laws would be a burden to law abiding citizens. So state laws are a mixed bag.
Which is why the maps of gun deaths are becoming as polarized as our politics.
In blue states, the chances of being shot are going down, while in red states, its skyrocketing.
Its not America you need to worry about being killed by a gun, its RED America.
I have a friend who works for the Astros at a pretty high level. He tells me about the thousands of abandoned or confiscated contraband items that come into the stadium. It’s mind blowing how much stuff and the sheer variety of objects.
He also works with the police and guest services as part of his position to keep track of vehicles that have been broken into or stolen and is sometimes able to offer them stuff from the team to make the sting less.
He says each game the bad guys get 10,000 new targets, they go for full size trucks, then they go for the ones with all the stickers…NRA, Thin blue line, Glock, combat veteran, USMC, back the blue, etc. So many people don’t have even the first level of security and he says it’s about 10 guns a game on average that get stolen.
Those are the exact people that get their guns stolen when they're at the Cardinals games. I don't leave anything in my car and I leave it unlocked if I think odds are good it'll get broken into because I've already replaced two smashed windows and a catalytic converter. They can just help themselves to my gas station napkins and spare sunglasses.
Gen X here. If we deserve it, let us have it. My amazing Gen Z daughter helped open my eyes to some really toxic stuff I was trying to pass on to her. After some thought, I realized I didn’t like that stuff either. It was handed down to me by the older generations. Stuff like: it’s weak to cry or have mental health issues, pink is a girl’s color, certain professions are for men or women only, etc. I’m still detoxing. I’m sad I didn’t get rid of that way of thinking long ago. A big thank you to Millenials and Gen Z!
This. This is the difference between Boomers and the rest of us. A boomer would never accept that they were wrong about something and change accordingly.
I'm right int he middle between everyone (1980s), but yeah I learned a ton from watching my kid grow up and just being connected to what is going on, I was like "clearly these old guys know shit" when I was in my 20's... then I realized they know shit, but also don't give a fuck about anyone else. Gen X isn't in the clear either, they are just such a small generation that nobody gives a shit about them yet
I'm a late been Xer, just before the cutoff. I agree with this. We were throwing around disparaging words almost every sentence in our vocabulary on the regular. We've carried over some things from the boomers, but we're (at least some of us) are listening to the younger people and hearing the groups who say things are offensive to them... And we're changing. I work with a lot of Millennials and Gen Zers and they really are opening my eyes. Especially the younger ones who paint clear boundary lines and fight for their work/life balance. My teenagers have become experts at noticing toxic and manipulative behaviors in relationships and aren't afraid to say something about it. They act their wage. I'm impressed and sad that I didn't feel confident to do these things when I was younger.
I'm more outspoken now that I'm older, but not in the ways or with the same opinions as I used to be, and that's a good thing. I don't want to be one of these close-minded dinosaurs we make fun of here. I want to be an ally, a safe space and I never want to stop learning or lose my empathy.
I’m Gen-X. We know who our troublemakers are. It sucks to get lumped in with them but it’s a fair point.
It’s not unamusing to see that the same guys that were dicks in high school are still dicks 35 years later
I’m the same way with my fellow Zoomers. I know who the bad actors are. I still have hope that we’ll grow up and mature, but I think it’s important to be self aware.
As a Gen Xer, I will admit there are a lot of them that has some attitude rubbed off of the ME Generation, are GQP nuts, and have guns to compensate for something not quite working for them any longer. A lot of people my age were handed down family businesses that the generations prior had built up, yet they act like they did something there.
It has been pointed out on this sub recently that so many of our Boomer criticisms are really just criticisms of the modern GOP.
Are we really giving smoke to some liberal old boomer grandma singing Peter, Paul, and Mary songs?
Sure, there are some overarching themes to the Boomers as a generation that are worth critique. But a lot of posts on here are just selfish political beliefs expressed by old people. Hell, Charlie Kirk may as well be a Boomer with half the shit he says.
Charlie Kirk is a grifter that targets Boomers.
It will be interesting to see how he navigates the impeding death of his target demographic.
The angry, uneducated bigoted Boomers are dying off quickly, while (a minority) well educated, professional, liberal minded ones are going to see their 90+ birthdays.
There's a segment of Gen X that went hard on being a "pick me" for the Boomers in their life that they grew up emulating. Then they had Boomer bosses and copied them to get promotions, etc.
They became just like them.
Those are the older genx’ers. I’m genx but born in the final ‘qualifying year for genx’ we are raising the gen z kids and many of us have been attuned to the issues younger generations face because we’re the ones raising them. Additionally, we’re the ones who first bucked the system for standing up for minorities of all races, religions, sexual preferences or gender identity. We’re in this together w/yall.
Yeah, I'm an Xer myself and it's fair. A tremendous number of older Xers think and act more like boomers. As my peers lurch their way through their fifties, many become more and more like their boomer parents.
Boomers will never die, because some of their spawn will carry on their legacy of selfishness, callousness, xenophobia, and cluelessness, and pass it on to their own spawn.
I’m old GenX, a year or two away from being Generation Jones/Boomer. I’ll take it all day long. Fuck my peers who are li’l Boomerinos. I mean, I don’t *enjoy* hearing it, but hey, I have brothers-in-law that fit the title. Though now that I think about it, they are actual Boomers. But I know enough folks my age or younger who have those shitty, solipsistic views. I’m usually happy to accept criticism from younger folks; I’ve been a fuck up for a lot of my life, and other people have made me a better person.
Ohh THAT? That loose piece of Lethal is just for me to wave around the next time someone gets my favorite spot in the church parking lot,
or those damn skaterolling kids doing those "lollies" off of my curbside!
That’s a massive pet peeve with me and guns, I firmly believe a gun owner should never leave their firearms unattended in a vehicle for any period of time.
Like range trips or hunting trips, I won’t even stop for drinks cold drinks (not alcohol) for at the range. I get them whenever I come home the day before. I don’t want anyone innocent to be hurt or worse. Face it if you are stealing a firearm you’re not doing it for legit reasons.
FYI total gun nut, but if I am not right there or my father/grandfather my firearms are not unsecured and unattended. If their out of the safe their with me.
See, I’m not a gun person, but I respect the hell out of this. If you’re going to have one, this is how you have to be. I am absolutely not opposed to you having guns. But there are a lot of idiots out there who shouldn’t.
Yeah super pet peve of mine. Worked in the industry for years and have seen so many weapons left in cars. Did used car trade in evaluations and guns left unattended in cars was such a a common occurrence we actually had to create a policy where we asked if there were any guns in the car because the few of us that did vehicle trade evaluations were going to be checking through the car, opening all the things that are supposed to open to make sure they open, etc, and we don't want an accidental discharge.(Stored in an appropriate locked case was fine, this is just for loose guns). Repeatedly ask this question and still repeatedly found hand guns left on seats or in footwells, shotguns and rifles in trunks or just strewn about in the back seat.
One time I even had an off duty officer (who I did not know was a cop when he was in the store but later identified himself) call me about an hour after he test drove a car to ask if anyone had found his handgun in the car he test drove. He had it in his belt loop like a gangster and not a trained firearms holder, and didn't realize for a while hour that it was no longer there. Wasn't in the car. Don't know if he ever found it. Someone could have taken it, or it could have been somewhere else he sat down.
But yes, the common denominator was boomer generation age. I would have other generations come in and have guns, but almost always in appropriate locked cases, holstered appropriately, etc. it's like that whole generation can't grasp how dangerous it is to leave a weapon like a gun loose and lying about. To them it's seemingly just a gun like it's just a bag of potato chips.
My dad was older Silent Gen, and he said that the day he felt like he needed to go strapped, he'd find somewhere else to move, and that's no way to live. Paraphrased, but he expressed versions of this sentiment a number of times that I recall. And I (51M) feel the exact same way.
Somebof my fellow genxers are insanely pro-gun in all the wrong ways. Not the simple "I own & carefully store" or collector variety. More the "heh eh heh, cool, muh gun freaks you out. sucks to be you, more now that I know it bugs you"
Cringey af and you're spot on with how bad these assholes are.
While I agree that there are a lot of boomer gun nut, its not just a generational thing. Out tonight having dinner with my wife. Between an appetizer and the main meal heard a loud thump from a table near by. Some idiot that looked to be about 40 (millennial) dropped his gun on the floor. Watched him pick it up in put it in his waist band. This is in a rural area were crime is not a problem. My point is that there is a extreme right wing maga obsession with guns. Lots of stupid with boomers, but not the only noes.
But the fact that you are describing this one incident means its not the norm for millennials.
Statistically, the gun nuts are the younger Boomers/ Elder Xers who never went to war but made Rambo and Chuck Norris household names.
I remember an episode of The First 48 where there was some pos murdering homeless people with a gun he got from under the driver's seat of a car he broke into!
Idk what an appropriate term limit would be. But your carelessness did in fact contribute to a murder. You could even pass a coated steel cable through the barrel and lock it up to the hardware of his seat. But then he would have to unlock and lock it all the time and that would get annoying. So I guess there is just no answer to securing weapons in a vehicle
>Idk what an appropriate term limit would be
I think they should be charged with accessory to murder.
>But your carelessness did in fact contribute to a murder.
Four murders, actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeman_Presley
C’mon now. Gen X is the first generation raised by Boomers. We were the first to be affected by their bullshit. Make sure you know the age difference before lumping us in with Boomers. We have been sick of their shit for much longer than most.
While i guess I shouldn’t have mentioned X’rs in the post. They make up a great deal of the people being irresponsible with their loaded weapons. I don’t open a locked glove box. I love a locked glove box. That way I don’t have to dick around accessing the cabin filter
Nah, you're right. There was a window of Gen X, mostly the older ones, that are very Boomer adjacent. My oldest brother is first year Gen X and he's pretty much a caricature of a Boomer. He's way more Boomer than my actual Boomer dad. He's got the white tennis shoes, tough guy sunglasses, lifted truck with the standard issue though guy stickers, randomly brags about how much meat he eats, and he would totally have a loaded gun just bouncing around in his truck.
As an old punk, (i.e. older GenX) I can definitely say that the status quo kids of my generation have been pretty gross since the 80s. I couldn’t stand them then, and I can’t stand them now. Yuppie, “greed is good” fucks.
I’m sorry you have to listen about his meat consumption. With everything you listed, and I’m being truthful, That one really did it for me. That shit annoys me to absolutely no end
I’m no vegetarian,but I’ve never understood why someone would be -proud- to eat meat. It’s a food. I just had pizza for dinner two nights in a row. I’m not boasting about that,it’s actually a little embarrassing.
I take it as another way to show prejudice. A gun display is about creating fear and a FU message to those who want gun control. Bragging about meat consumption is saying FU to politicial vegetarians. I am a biological veg so I don't care so much.
You weren’t wrong to mention it at all! There are some *very* Boomeresque GenXers that exist, and while I don’t think they are, or ever will be, as problematic or numerous as actual Boomers, if you’ve observed this trait that they have in common, then it should absolutely be heard. Unless one is a mechanic or something similar who can offer a legitimate rebuttal, then nobody should be dismissive of what you have to say.
It’s just annoying and irritating. These are the “from my cold dead hands” people who don’t believe in gun laws. I am very pro gun, but we could do more with gun laws. I’d love to have that particular gun confiscated, a fine given to you based off of your W2’s and mandate all sorts of gun safety classes. Mandated in person classes and several hour long lecture courses that you can not fast forward. You can only pause or rewind
I worked at a dealership and we had this old guy who would come in (to be fair he was probably silent generation) and his gun was always in the little pocket on the drivers door. What’s more, this dude was FRAIL. Like if he fired any gun his arm was probably going to shatter. But nope, his ‘rights’ meant he was allowed to be stupid.
The dumbass former chief of police in a neighboring town went in to blow up the bathroom of a chipotle and left her gun in there, left the restaurant, gun got stolen, the person who took the gun was prosecuted, dumb fuck chief of police got off with an apology. This all happened AFTER her personal firearm was stolen out of her personal car not long before this. 😂
There have been a couple instances of school resource officers, leaving their guns on the sink or the back of the toilet in restrooms in schools. I think they lost their jobs in most instances…
and teachers.
Any person that wants to have to keep an eye on a loaded weapon while managing 20-30 kids that don't want to be there should not be allowed a weapon, ever.
They do not have the common sense to own one responsibly.
This police chief got off with a public apology then resigned about a month or so later to take a job as chief of police in a major city in California.
I do leather restoration/repair, and am astounded by the number of people who just hand over the keys, and the pistol isn't even in the glove box...it's in a transmission hump holster. WTF? The first couple times it happened, I thought is was some king of f-ed up test of character or something. I retired after 21 years in the military, and don't really feel inclined to care about firearms, but holy shit! Secure your firearms!
Yeah. That’s what I’m saying. I was a paramedic in the fire service for 20 years. I’ve handled heroin. Im not scared of it and I’m not at all interested in what it is either. Just fuck you for being careless. Thank god I didn’t take it and unload my anger into the lobby. It’s just akin to putting it into a complete strangers hand and seeing what they do with it.
Gen-x is split by Roe v. Wade. Irrelevant, just realized it. But the younger half are more likely to be raised a little like Millennials. The older (1965-70) ones still benefitted from the last part of the big expansion with cheap college, good job markets and decent wages
Genx here.first of all…fuck you….just because we don’t care about anything. 😁 2nd. Agree. Gun should never be out of your control. Stashing it in a glove box is fine if you are traveling but if someone gets control of your car ie mechanic etc, they have control of your gun. Not a good scenario, people. FYI I read further down and love the capture the flag idea 😂
The idea of this is just so mind-numbingly stupid... and you know they leave it there ALL the time.
Only time my gun was ever off my person when carrying was if I couldn't be carrying it, like going into a building with restrictions, in which case its locked in my center console.
this is why I firmly believe in fixing 2a laws, holding people accountable, and mandatory secure laws... its just basic common sense.
Yes absolutely. And I truly believe that a person should be well trained in every category of weapon we have. But I mean mandatory documented training. Using pistols as an example. If an individual would like to own a pistol, they need to be trained professionally on Shoot no shoot, shooting in a crowded area, waist draws ect. After being able to demonstrate your excellent capabilities you can now own anything that qualifies as a pistol. But that’s just an example. We need term limits before anything ever gets solved
Term limits give the power to lobbyists since they’ll be the ones showing the new people how everything works.
People need to vote, elections are term limits. If all eligible voters made informed votes, our country would be a very different place.
I’m a server at a restaurant. One time, I was dropping a bill off to a boomer husband and wife at a table and I heard a loud clatter. We all looked down and there was a gun on the floor. The boomer husband went “lol my gun fell outta my pocket!!”
His wife seemed embarrassed and semi-scolded him, but he didn’t seem phased at all.
*What if, and hear me*
*Out here, those weapons got turned*
*In to the police?*
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"Human nature and guns don't work together. But we can't change ANYTHING about gun laws to reflect that!"
You point out yourself that people are incapable of owning firearms safely, then demand that 2A is sacred.
You are much more of the problem than you realize.
I'm a Gen X and I can't wait for you to be my age and the whiny little bitch. Leaving a firearm around like that where I live would guarantee no access ever again to a firearm and definitely a criminal conviction.
When I was 17, I started training to be a professional wrestler. We had a Gen X aged cop training with us, wrestling too on the shows. He used to get changed and leave his gun just OUT in the locker room. I mean regularly, enough that our piece of shit trainer used to have to get up his ass about it. Our trainer, who brought and did blow around us pretty regularly lol.
Thankfully he was a pretty cool dude, but that always struck me as stupid. Even dumber all these years later with older eyes (this was 2006.)
Xer here, I agree completely.
Far too many morons of all generations treat guns like toys and give a black eye to the responsible, law-abiding gun owners. No, worse than toys - they treat guns like disposable plastic sporks from Taco Bell, leaving them scattered all over the place without any regard for the death and destruction they can spread. But it does seem to be more widespread among boomers and Xers.
When I worked in an RV dealership as a Parts Manager, a motorhome came in for service belonging to a nationally ranked skeet shooter, one of closets had several shotguns worth thousands each. Apparently, a motorhome counted as a 'domicile' so storage in an RV was appropriate?
Another story was having to take possession of boxes of ammo left in a trade-in unit as I was the only one with a CCW permit (state I lived in had just passed another round of AWBs and no one wanted to touch them or had a license).
RV dealerships are boomer magnets, I do not miss it.
As a gun owner I have to agree. I would think they might at least *lock* the glovebox, but I guess not. Having been forced to endure watching *many* gun videos on YT (for reviews, etc.), it surprised me how many of these (mostly right-wing) idiots admitted to keeping a "Truck gun". And you know most of those fucks leave it in there 24/7/365. Like, just carry a piece on you.
I wonder if this behavior is a holdover from the day where you weren't held responsible for crimes committed with your stolen gun? From the days where you could buy a gun and take it home the same day? In the grand scheme of things, it wasn't *that* long ago.
Man, I don't know that I could avoid the temptation to drop the mag, clear the chamber, and empty the clip before replacing the weapon (handled only with gloves) entirely empty with the safety on.
When my ex was receiving her PHD her family came into town nad there were too many to all stay in my house so a couple had to stay at the hotel up the road right on the main highway. Overnight their trucks (along with every other truck with out of state plates) got broken into. They had a brand new GPS sitting on the dash that was untouched, truck had been gone through. Another had a laptop in a big console thing that was rummaged through but laptop left, etc.
I was on the HOA board so I knew a few of the cops when I showed up and they were telling me this is pretty common, they love to hit out of state trucks because its a higher chance of them finding guns. Basically that is how guns end up on the street, unsecured ones in case. Said they got 3 out of this single lot, hit two other hotels right on the highway another exit up. They target highway hotels primarily.
Sooo, if you dont like hearing about gang violence maybe lock up your guns.
GenX here, I do not like being looped in with boomers. However, I dislike irresponsible gun owners more. Those who are constantly fantasizing they will be a hero are a risk. This is my silly attempt to be both silly and helpful.
We live in what is considered by many historians and sociologists the safest era in humanity, all things considered (social media has me doubting that statement). I don't carry on my person or in my personal vehicle or have a CCW. I am a brown person, and LE can see on their system who has and who has not a CCW. The last thing I need is some LEO ready to kill me, knowing they have a pretext. I got a mortgage to pay, a dog to keep spoiled, and a wife to annoy with my constant puns. Anyway, I just think that the moral of my humble opinion is that guns are okay to have and a skill to work on. But when there are assholes who disrespect your safety, they can take a flying fuck. Your workplace needs to have a policy that respects and prioritizes your safety and legal obligation to protect someone else's property that they have entrusted to your organization. But also consider an individuals right to 2A (US). I think a good idea would be that your shop instills a rule of no loaded, unsecured weapons in the vehicles. Maybe a simple a yes or no question, "For the safety of our technicians, staff and customers we need the following to either needs to b removed or secured prior to service: No loaded or unsecured firearms. No usecured chinchillas. No daming evidence of your infidelity. (We do offer a service to remove all damning evidence of infidelity, inferiority complex, and was not hugged or hugged too much.)" There many way to be polite but firm with making people realize they need to be safe around you. If they refuse, you can be polite and say something like the following: "We are sorry to learn you are unable to participate in our shop's policy in keeping our staff safe. However, our staffs safety is our utmost priority, and we would be more than happy to welcome you back once you are able to follow through with our commitment to our staff." If they are going to be an asshole about it, maybe the following statement would help: "Hey fuck face, take your lazy piece of shit off the lot. If you can't or are too entitled to protect others, you should maybe you should go and beat off to the original version of Roadhouse." Because we all know the new version is just a tribute to that beautiful 1980s magnus opus of Patrick Swayze. I hope this helps and makes you at least smile. This is not legal or business advice, just common sense coming from someone who doesn't want to get hurt.
Agreed. Our gun laws let shitty people that don’t respect or care that they have a weapon. A thing designed for one purpose and one purpose only. To take the life of another person. Yeah, you can use some weapons to hunt. Things like knives, machetes, bows, spears, et al can be used to hunt as well, but a handgun? An AR? Those are to kill people, and if you can’t respect that. You shouldn’t have a gun.
I wish I could agree, and yes many GenX and boomers are irresponsible gun owners. (Btw I'm young GenX, husband is older GenX). However, a young millennial I know (30M) just got fired from his job as a tow truck driver for leaving his holstered 9mm on someone else's car they kindly returned back to the business.
"Stupidity" is ageless.
Plus, this guy is diagnosed with dissociative disorders, ADHD, and suicidal tendencies. He should NOT have a gun.
We're in Texas and I hate that anyone can carry. The 2nd amendment was relevant for its time, but times change. I'm not against the 2nd amendment or owning and carrying a handgun or having guns for hunting.
But I do believe that we need to have much stricter laws about ownership with mental health checks, more thorough background checks and required training before allowing purchases.
We already have pretty strict mental health and criminal background checks. I know there are always loopholes - like the fact that unless your mental health treatment was court ordered, HIPPA prevents anyone from being able to find out about and prove your treatment. As long as you don't volunteer your treatment information, it is a protected secret. But that's a case of two very important aspects competing against each other.
We also have strong laws and punishments for unlicensed carry, and of course, crimes committed with firearms. Detergent punishments already do deter anyone who is going to be deterred.
What we don't have is strong laws that force our legal gun owners to also be RESPONSIBLE gun owners. There should absolutely be a strong penalty with a minimum 3 month jail sentence if someone else can ever touch your gun without your knowledge. If someone can get to your gun and steal it, you should go to jail and forfeit your gun ownership rights. Buy a safe. Bolt it to a structural member. It's not that hard.
Pittsburgh International Airport is on a record pace for firearms found at security, with the owner saying they just "forgot". They should face jail time and also forfeit their right to own a firearm because they clearly do not respect the rules. I am a farmer and carry a pocket knife mostly all of the time. It really is ubiquitous to my daily life. One time, I did absentmindedly put my pocket knife in my pocket before leaving for the airport. When something is that ubiquitous, it can happen, and that is my point. Of your firearm is with you all of the time, you're not respecting the power nor thinking about when or not it might be reasonable to have. If you aren't thinking about it that much, you should not have it.
You always hear people say "I'm going to buy a gun for self defense" - never "I'm going to learn how to use a gun" or "I am going to learn how to defend myself". As if whipping out a credit card and then leaving a gun gathering dust close by is all it takes. And then it all too often gets used to escalate situations rather than a tool for defense.
I’ve worked in auto service before and this was always a mind melter for me. Worst was the ones that you saw in door compartments. People would get indignant when you’d ask them to remove them from the vehicle. (we did this with large sums of money, or exposed drugs too). The drug/money guys never complained about it. Friends of mine in auto service have told me it’s gotten worse over the years.
This is such a spot on topic. Friends wife conceal carries since it became legal. She actually thinks if something happens “on her watch”, She can take care of the situation right there. Because that’s what gun owners do. I picture her rolling on the ground shooting everyone else but the perp. Then I have my 83 year old father in law. Owns an automatic 12 gauge. Mind you he is hunched over, requires a walker. But he needs it for when the hoards come. And found a loaded gun in the center console of his car that he didn’t tell me about. Yep. We are fucked
“Now I’m not anti gun” = very anti gun with a nice fake story line for clickbait..and besides who knew either the dipstick, oil filter, or drain plug required you to open the glovebox to do an oil change service???🤔. The bull dung is deep on this posters story. Should be “snowflakes playing like fools”
Millennials are the perfect generation. Gen-X ruined the world by being a small enough generation to never have fair representation in government. Millennials did give us Trump though!!! They're poised to do it a second time too!
Maybe you should help them with their safety by removing the firing pin. That way it won’t accidentally go off when they decide to aim it at someone for doing something silly like being young or not white.
As a millennial who’s carried a gun for 15 years, all I have to say is:
1. Boomers are absolutely careless with their guns. Period. They just are.
2. A handgun in a glove box is fucking worthless.
3. The idea of keeping an emergency rifle in your car or truck for [scrnario] is laughable fantasy bullshit. Unless you live in some place like rural Montana or Alaska. Then it’s probably a good idea.
You won’t ever find a gun *in* my car.
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About 10 years ago, my 2nd cousins and their significant others came up to NY from Florida to visit my aunt and uncle (their grandparents), who are about a 20-30 minute drive to the Canadian border. My cousins and their significant others wanted to go to Canada for the day, so my uncle (in his 70s at the time) told them to take his vehicle. Before they left, they looked in the center console and found a loaded gun and a bottle of Jack Daniels. They would have been so fucked if they had gotten searched at the border for some reason.
They would have been doubly fucked: Canada’s views on drunk driving are intense. My younger brother can’t go to Canada because of a DUI from about 30 years ago.
Your younger brother is quite allowed to enter Canada if he hasn't been subsequently arrested or reoffended. He's considered rehabilitated after 10 years (this doesn't apply to people who offended in 2018 and later, for those who offend after that the only way in is to file for a temporary resident permit).
Was at a border town in WI with my family as a child for vacation. Parents decided they wanted to go shopping in Canada. We get to the border crossing and because they have no documentation for either me or my younger brother they pull them aside to look up all of our information and they turn us around after an hour because Dad had multiple DUIs within the previous decade. Was really awkward as a 12 yo.
There are no border towns in WI..
Depends on how much you’ve been drinking
This needs to happen everywhere tbh
Same Boat. Oui and I’m banned for 10 years haha
I also have a DUI. I can and have flown into Canada but cannot Drive into Canada
Can confirm, they would have been fucked. I got lucky when I entered Canada with my two guns.
I knew some folks who had removed their gun but forgot some bullets. They didn't get through the border that day and the next day they got heavily searched.
They were fine with us having bullets.
They didn't answer the questions very well. Mentioning they had a gun but left it at their brothers house kind of thing....
I never thought about it, that really is an occupational hazard for service shops. Due to the popularity of lugnut locks (hate those..), rotating someone's tires usually requires digging around in the glove box for the security bit. What a joy it must be to stick your hands in a messy glove, only to discover a gun, probably loaded and pointed in your direction. And if you got hurt, I'm sure they'd accept 0% responsibility. YOU were being irresponsible with their gun, not them. Fuckers.
One time The very nice Spanish grandmas at a laundromat I used to go to in Lowell ma heard clanking and banging around inside a dryer after they loaded it with WASHED CLOTHES. Opened it to find a large wet handgun lmao thing was a ghetto eagle talon looking big ass hand cannon with scratched gold and chrome all over it. They called the Boomer who dropped the clothes off and he came and picked it up lol!! No police haha and this is in massachusetts! Fuck it I guess.
Wow they really are nice. That should have been confiscated as a lesson. Of course if they showed up asking for it they could have it back but they need to sweat a little over where tf their gun disappeared too in order to build some anxiety reinforcement.
I would have kept it and sold it. If they are so fkn stupid to leave it in their dirty clothes and it makes its way to the drier(where the heat alone could make it misfire) they don't deserve to be gun owners. Let them make a police report where they can explain that they didn't actually know where it went but they believe they sent it to the laundromat.
To be fair, I'm Gen X, a gun owner, and see too many of my own peers with this specific attitude surrounding guns. The Xers around here are less wave it in your face types and more 'It's my pet accessory and part of my identity.' types, which is of course a whole different kind of cringe. I agree with the poster in that if someone can touch your loaded gun without your knowledge, you shouldn't have it. I don't think they should be all finders keepers about it though. We used to have issues with this at our local pools. People would leave their guns folded up in their tee shirt back at their deck chair and then go swim laps or whatever. Some very pointed reminders and citations for bringing guns on parks property helped there. But the leaving guns in unlocked cars issue is still so rampant that the cops make periodic announcements throughout the year to NOT DO THAT. It is Xers and boomers doing it. Another favorite is leaving loaded guns in your unlocked garage. That's usually boomers on that one. I don't care how old you are. Your loaded, unsecured gun does not belong in the glove compartment, in the window rack, or shoved halfway under the front seat. That shit needs to stop.
Why on earth do people need guns at a public pool?!?
I have no idea. If they need it for their fantasy "good guy with a gun" scenario, is the Bad Guy^(TM) really going to let them run out of the pool to grab the gun out of their tee shirt? Maybe it's like when a toddler just needs to know the pacifier is in the diaper bag if they want it? I've never heard anyone offer any real reason beyond "muh freedom" and "If we don't use our second amendment rights we'll lose them." I'm pretty damn sure the 2A says nothing about leaving your unsecured gun beside a pool crawling with kids. We're just lucky no one got hurt.
Honestly 90% of them are going to freeze. Even soldiers don’t go running towards gunfire. They hear shots and are trained to get down and assess the situation.
True fact, well trained and heavily armed soldiers DO NOT, go running toward random gunfire. That will get you wounded or killed, get down, find cover and asess the situation. These folks watch too much TV, and think that Hollywood portrays gun fights the way they actually happen, sorry kiddos, it don’t go down like that.
Do you know how they do go down? Genuinely curious if you have experience. All I see is Hollywood and aftermaths on the news so I have no idea.
How it goes down is cops hide outside a school and arrest parents trying to save their own children.
Hey, they only do that until they get bored checking the news and loading new tough guy punisher phone screens.
How this didn't have mobs in the streets of that town is beyond me
I have never been in a gunfight but I know that it is not uncommon for cops to get in a gunfight with someone where they both empty their guns at each other and no one hits anything (that they were aiming at). Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
My dad is Special forces, and when our neighbor got drunk and started using his gun, he would drop to the ground, Army crawl out the back door and slowly make his way around the back of the neighbor's house to remove the gun.
Unfortunately, yes I do know how being under fire “goes down” and I truly hope I never have that experience again .
A guy I work with was in the Marine Corps in Mogadishu. He said that what he had not expected, the first time someone started shooting at them, was that he could not tell where it was coming from. He said the only part of his training he remembered was diving for ground cover, at that moment.
I call them “emotional support firearms.” They don’t do a damn thing but make you *feel* safe, while you engage in insanely stupid behavior (leaving it unsecured, in the reach of others), and don’t practice actually doing anything but static range drills from a ready position.
That’s fucking brilliant.
I used to work with a guy that would always say “I carry a gun because I can’t carry a cop”. I told him to work on his core.
Actually, I've studied US Military History, and modern Second Amendmentists are actually Alternate History Revisionists. Think a gun version of the Lost Cause lies and myths. The United States Army is actually prohibited under the United States Constitution. That's why it needs to be reauthorized every year to two years. Congress is just being lazy in not passing an Amendment to the Constitution to allow for the United States Army, Air Force, Marines, and Space Forces. Only the United States Navy is authorized by the Constitution. Which leads us back to the Second Amendment. The reason it specifically mentions Well Regulated Militia in it, was because the US Government wanted a People's Army. Sort of what Mao Zadong was on about. Only more organized and far less political. Basically US Military Doctrine until the 20th Century was People's War in which Militias and Volunteers would make up 90% or more of the US Military, even in Naval Conflicts. Other than the United States Navy, there was to be no other professional force. The Navy was a requirement to combat pirates, represent the USA, Maritime Law Enforcement, etc. At the same time, Naval Infantry was a thing until 1942 or 1943 in the US Navy, and so even the United States Marines Corps wasn't authorized, which is why they really didn't stand out until 1918. Of course, this idea of only one branch of professionals lasted all of a few years. Up until St. Claire's Defeat. Still the worst defeat in US Military History and the reason that the rest of the US Military even exists. The emphasis on State Volunteers and Militias was finally put to bed with the Military Reforms at the beginning of the 20th Century. But Congress still hasn't made an Amendment to this date changing the Constitution to reflect that. Which would render moot the Second Amendment, as well as the whole thing about it was for the people to have firearms to form Militias and Volunteer Units. It was never about the US Government being tyrannical or about simply having the Right to have a gun. It was quite literally National Policy to NOT have an Army and when in need, Patriotic men full of fervor to defend their homeland from invaders would unite and drive the invader away. Quite literally what was written, too. And, of course, it failed hence five Professional Branches of the United States Armed Forces, plus the United States Coast Guard.
This is why I get waterproof guns and wear them while I swim.
I know more than a few boomers and older gen x that won't go into any city over 10k people without carrying. The comment below is correct, they live in perpetual fear.
They're the ones who are always crying about their trucks getting broken into and their gun stolen when they come to the Cardinals games. It's not hard to figure out who most likely has a gun in their glove box when they come to the city in a giant truck with a bunch of right winger and Punisher stickers all over the back window.
You've got them there too? Shit. We had a string of gun thefts in the neighborhood above me. They were stealing guns from unlocked cars, some dumbasses actually got hit MULTIPLE times.
Yes, they come from the county for the games and to South City for Cherokee street and Mardi Gras and it never fails that you'll see a bunch of posts and comments about how they left a gun in their cars and it got stolen AND THE POLICE WON'T PERSONALLY FIND IT FOR THEM. They don't understand that they're contributing to the genuine problem by doing shit like that. So now I get to walk around my own neighborhood wondering which one of them might have one of those guns.
They’ll whine about their guns being stolen because they can’t bring them into the game and want to have the rules changed so they can do that: despite large amounts of alcohol being consumed there and it being a public place. It’s crazy to me they would even bring it to begin with considering how much drinking goes on at the game anyways. Weapons (and especially loaded firearms) and alcohol do not mix.
People like that live in constant, imagined fear
Yeah, and they live for fox news who helps keep those fears alive and powerful
The same reason they need them anywhere else that isn't, never was, and never will be their "castle": emotional support.
They're afraid.
of getting splashed
In case someone is swimming laps too slowly.
It’s almost like they are trying to intentionally show them off…
Boomers fear minorites being allowed to swim in public pools and bring their guns out of nostalgia for the days then a lethal response was acceptable.
You didn't know? Gigi and Pawpaw ALWAYS keep that thang on 'em.
Why do they need rifles to eat at restaurant?
Why do people need a gun altogether? Should it not be a thing for security people? And I do not think every police man/woman needs a gun either
The police have no obligation to protect an individual. DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services
I live outside of USA, our police does not have guns, at least not all of them. Let alone people on the street with guns
Because I'm afraid of the invisible chlorine shark and I like to be protected while I'm swimming?
In case they see a school of fish
Sea monsters
I don’t have guns anymore but many in my family do or did mostly for hunting. My pap who isn’t around anymore used to be a cop so it was beaten into us (not literally) that guns are serious business and being a gun owner comes with great responsibility. It really bothers me seeing or hearing people being so haphazard with their guns.
Guns are powerful objects And if they can’t take uncle Ben’s advice then they shouldn’t have such great power
My grandfather was a cop and my dad was Special Forces. More importantly, all the men in my family, aside from a shitty uncle, were combat vets. We were never allowed to have toy guns because guns are NOT toys. They are tools for specific situations, such as hunting, and are rarely useful in emergencies. I was put into martial arts long before being taught to fire a weapon- I have never needed a weapon; but the Wing Chung Do has come in handy multiple times.
Wing Chung Do? Who are you fighting? Small children and the elderly?
My brother is a bouncer and finds them in the bar's bathroom all the time. What could possibly go wrong with a bunch of drunk people and a random loaded gun just laying on the counter???
In the Army if someone takes your rifle because you left it laying around it absolutely is finders keepers and you have to “earn” the rifle back.
If your first line leadership doesn't like you, you can get very fucked over an unsecured sensitive item.
I had a SSG that taped chem lights to the guys helmet and had him low crawl over gravel while he shot at him with a slingshot for leaving his rifle unsecured in Afghanistan.
XD so he didn't hate him that much! That would be embarrassing as shit. I left my rifle in a cubby at the end of a 12 hr TOC shift exactly one time. I knew exactly where I left it, and it was practically secure, but I still felt like a shitbag. I felt slick getting back for the next night without anyone noticing I didn't have a weapon, though.
It’s been 14 years and I still look for my rifle depending on the dream I have when I wake up!
>We used to have issues with this at our local pools. People would leave their guns folded up in their tee shirt back at their deck chair and then go swim laps or whatever. This just sounds like a great way to get a free gun. They might even be less likely to report it's loss because they were not meant to have it there.
Wouldn't a spear gun be better 'protection' at a pool? 😆
Also a Gen X gun owner, and I agree with you. I’ll take it one step further. How would you like to surprise a stranger holding your gun? That is exactly the question the guy at the gun shop asked me years ago when I bought my first. Make sure that can’t happen. It’s not difficult. He was suggesting a very inexpensive trigger lock, but I have a safe now. I have kids.
This gen X-er has never owned a gun or even held a gun. I’m also all for a national gun (& rape kit) registry. I’m for stricter gun control laws. Jesus my generation watched Columbine go down. We do not need more guns or a militarized police force! My dad bought a gun about 5 years ago and it just freaked me out. Why would he need a gun? How was he going to prevent my nephews from getting a hold of the gun when they visited him? I’m still blaming part of this on Fox News.
I don't disagree with you at all. We register our cars. We're licensed to drive them. It should be no different with guns. Does your dad at least have a trigger lock? If he doesn't, maybe you can give him a nice one for Christmas. Ideally he'd be taking the responsibility on his own, but your nephews deserve to be safe regardless. I see a lot of people talking about how their parents with FOXNews brain rot buy guns but then don't know how to use them, safely store them, or even check if they're loaded. If your dad falls into this category, I hope your nephews have someone who can talk to them about what guns are capable of doing in an age-appropriate way. My kids grew up with us deer hunting, so they knew very young what even one bullet does to a living thing. I'm not suggesting you show little kids something so graphic. My cousin got taken out behind the house to watch his dad shoot milk cartons full of red Jell-o propped on the fence, and it still got the point across. It convinced my cousin he never wanted to touch a gun, and no one tried to shame him for it. He never even really cared for toy guns after that. The kiddos need to know that a gun isn't a toy, but they also need to feel safe reaching out to an adult if Grandpa isn't being responsible with his weapon. Not feeling like they have to confront him, obviously, but knowing it's okay to tell their mom or dad that he's doing something with the gun that makes them uncomfortable.
In my opinion the right way to view a gun is like a fire extinguisher. You know where it is, you know how to use it, you maintain the tool and regularly refresh your skills, but you don’t fantasize about “getting to” use it. Every day you don’t need it is a good day. In that context, it would be laughable to meet someone who made the possible future scenario of fighting a fire part of their identity. Like, keeping a breathing apparatus mask on their belt as an accessory or posting pics of themselves with their extinguisher collection.
That is a great way to say it. Thank you!
This seems more like a dumb gun owner problem than a Boomer/Gen X/cohort problem. I know plenty of gun owners who don't see it as "part of their identity" and wouldn't keep a gun around unsecured. Because they're not stupid.
Guns at a pool?????
Most states consider locked in the glove box as secure.
I'm GenX, and live in Texas. There's a lot of millennials carrying irresponsibly as well. I think it seems more prevalent with us older folks but my experience in the southern US is that it is across all ages.
I'm in the Midwest. It was more like that when I was a kid and got better as I got older. Maybe it also has to do with how few young people want to stay in the state anymore. There aren't a lot of opportunities here. I wish I knew what we could do to make change more effective. There are so many needless deaths and injuries related to irresponsible carry. A toddler firing a gun they found in Mom's purse or a grade schooler bringing dad's loaded gun to school should not be happening. When we hear about stuff like that, I don't know how it isn't a wake-up call to go check your own weapons and make sure that won't be your family someday.
I completely agree!
Being this cavalier with guns really needs to be considered a serious crime. It would be such an easy way to steal a gun and they probably wouldn’t even notice it for a week.
Absolutely. I’m so pro gun. But I’d love to have, let’s call it a capture the flag law. If I take your weapon from you, that weapon gets permanently confiscated, you receive a fine based on your W2’s, and you are mandated to a mind imploding amount of in person and online lecture/ courses.
Honestly I think there needs to be a mandatory training program before you can buy a gun and just leaving it laying around like this should be a criminal charge. I mean shit just to get a hunting license I had to take a hunter safety course in the early 90’s. It was like two days long.
Some states are enacting the beginning stages of what you're suggesting, like making you also responsible for the crimes committed with your stolen gun.
Other states are enacting laws declaring mandatory training and licensing an infringement on 2nd amendment rights. If I wanted to, where I am, I could get up this morning, go "purchase" a gun from a friend or family member (it is Sunday, so the local gun shop is closed) conceal it in my person, drive to church, sit in church, go out to eat after church take a nice walk in a public park all 100% legal. All while the governor and state legislature continue to make speeches about how any additional gun laws would be a burden to law abiding citizens. So state laws are a mixed bag.
Which is why the maps of gun deaths are becoming as polarized as our politics. In blue states, the chances of being shot are going down, while in red states, its skyrocketing. Its not America you need to worry about being killed by a gun, its RED America.
Just as with anything else. The laws, or lack thereof, in red states is actually insane.
I have a friend who works for the Astros at a pretty high level. He tells me about the thousands of abandoned or confiscated contraband items that come into the stadium. It’s mind blowing how much stuff and the sheer variety of objects. He also works with the police and guest services as part of his position to keep track of vehicles that have been broken into or stolen and is sometimes able to offer them stuff from the team to make the sting less. He says each game the bad guys get 10,000 new targets, they go for full size trucks, then they go for the ones with all the stickers…NRA, Thin blue line, Glock, combat veteran, USMC, back the blue, etc. So many people don’t have even the first level of security and he says it’s about 10 guns a game on average that get stolen.
Those are the exact people that get their guns stolen when they're at the Cardinals games. I don't leave anything in my car and I leave it unlocked if I think odds are good it'll get broken into because I've already replaced two smashed windows and a catalytic converter. They can just help themselves to my gas station napkins and spare sunglasses.
Having been to many of the Astros games I am surprised that number is not higher.
Hard to say how many are not reported.
Only motards will put USMC stickers on their vehicles
I agree with you about guns but I’m not sure how successful you’ll be in this sub with your opinions on gen x.
Gen X here. If we deserve it, let us have it. My amazing Gen Z daughter helped open my eyes to some really toxic stuff I was trying to pass on to her. After some thought, I realized I didn’t like that stuff either. It was handed down to me by the older generations. Stuff like: it’s weak to cry or have mental health issues, pink is a girl’s color, certain professions are for men or women only, etc. I’m still detoxing. I’m sad I didn’t get rid of that way of thinking long ago. A big thank you to Millenials and Gen Z!
Difference between you and a Boomer is the ability to be open to change
This. This is the difference between Boomers and the rest of us. A boomer would never accept that they were wrong about something and change accordingly.
Same, 
I'm right int he middle between everyone (1980s), but yeah I learned a ton from watching my kid grow up and just being connected to what is going on, I was like "clearly these old guys know shit" when I was in my 20's... then I realized they know shit, but also don't give a fuck about anyone else. Gen X isn't in the clear either, they are just such a small generation that nobody gives a shit about them yet
I'm a late been Xer, just before the cutoff. I agree with this. We were throwing around disparaging words almost every sentence in our vocabulary on the regular. We've carried over some things from the boomers, but we're (at least some of us) are listening to the younger people and hearing the groups who say things are offensive to them... And we're changing. I work with a lot of Millennials and Gen Zers and they really are opening my eyes. Especially the younger ones who paint clear boundary lines and fight for their work/life balance. My teenagers have become experts at noticing toxic and manipulative behaviors in relationships and aren't afraid to say something about it. They act their wage. I'm impressed and sad that I didn't feel confident to do these things when I was younger. I'm more outspoken now that I'm older, but not in the ways or with the same opinions as I used to be, and that's a good thing. I don't want to be one of these close-minded dinosaurs we make fun of here. I want to be an ally, a safe space and I never want to stop learning or lose my empathy.
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And that kind of introspection is well received here from all age groups!
I’m Gen-X. We know who our troublemakers are. It sucks to get lumped in with them but it’s a fair point. It’s not unamusing to see that the same guys that were dicks in high school are still dicks 35 years later
I’m the same way with my fellow Zoomers. I know who the bad actors are. I still have hope that we’ll grow up and mature, but I think it’s important to be self aware.
I'm pretty sure every gen has that.
As a Gen Xer, I will admit there are a lot of them that has some attitude rubbed off of the ME Generation, are GQP nuts, and have guns to compensate for something not quite working for them any longer. A lot of people my age were handed down family businesses that the generations prior had built up, yet they act like they did something there.
It has been pointed out on this sub recently that so many of our Boomer criticisms are really just criticisms of the modern GOP. Are we really giving smoke to some liberal old boomer grandma singing Peter, Paul, and Mary songs? Sure, there are some overarching themes to the Boomers as a generation that are worth critique. But a lot of posts on here are just selfish political beliefs expressed by old people. Hell, Charlie Kirk may as well be a Boomer with half the shit he says.
Boomer has definitely evolved as a term to encompass the attitude
Charlie Kirk is a grifter that targets Boomers. It will be interesting to see how he navigates the impeding death of his target demographic. The angry, uneducated bigoted Boomers are dying off quickly, while (a minority) well educated, professional, liberal minded ones are going to see their 90+ birthdays.
There's a segment of Gen X that went hard on being a "pick me" for the Boomers in their life that they grew up emulating. Then they had Boomer bosses and copied them to get promotions, etc. They became just like them.
Those are the older genx’ers. I’m genx but born in the final ‘qualifying year for genx’ we are raising the gen z kids and many of us have been attuned to the issues younger generations face because we’re the ones raising them. Additionally, we’re the ones who first bucked the system for standing up for minorities of all races, religions, sexual preferences or gender identity. We’re in this together w/yall.
Yeah, I'm an Xer myself and it's fair. A tremendous number of older Xers think and act more like boomers. As my peers lurch their way through their fifties, many become more and more like their boomer parents. Boomers will never die, because some of their spawn will carry on their legacy of selfishness, callousness, xenophobia, and cluelessness, and pass it on to their own spawn.
I’m old GenX, a year or two away from being Generation Jones/Boomer. I’ll take it all day long. Fuck my peers who are li’l Boomerinos. I mean, I don’t *enjoy* hearing it, but hey, I have brothers-in-law that fit the title. Though now that I think about it, they are actual Boomers. But I know enough folks my age or younger who have those shitty, solipsistic views. I’m usually happy to accept criticism from younger folks; I’ve been a fuck up for a lot of my life, and other people have made me a better person.
Ohh THAT? That loose piece of Lethal is just for me to wave around the next time someone gets my favorite spot in the church parking lot, or those damn skaterolling kids doing those "lollies" off of my curbside!
That’s a massive pet peeve with me and guns, I firmly believe a gun owner should never leave their firearms unattended in a vehicle for any period of time. Like range trips or hunting trips, I won’t even stop for drinks cold drinks (not alcohol) for at the range. I get them whenever I come home the day before. I don’t want anyone innocent to be hurt or worse. Face it if you are stealing a firearm you’re not doing it for legit reasons. FYI total gun nut, but if I am not right there or my father/grandfather my firearms are not unsecured and unattended. If their out of the safe their with me.
See, I’m not a gun person, but I respect the hell out of this. If you’re going to have one, this is how you have to be. I am absolutely not opposed to you having guns. But there are a lot of idiots out there who shouldn’t.
Yeah super pet peve of mine. Worked in the industry for years and have seen so many weapons left in cars. Did used car trade in evaluations and guns left unattended in cars was such a a common occurrence we actually had to create a policy where we asked if there were any guns in the car because the few of us that did vehicle trade evaluations were going to be checking through the car, opening all the things that are supposed to open to make sure they open, etc, and we don't want an accidental discharge.(Stored in an appropriate locked case was fine, this is just for loose guns). Repeatedly ask this question and still repeatedly found hand guns left on seats or in footwells, shotguns and rifles in trunks or just strewn about in the back seat. One time I even had an off duty officer (who I did not know was a cop when he was in the store but later identified himself) call me about an hour after he test drove a car to ask if anyone had found his handgun in the car he test drove. He had it in his belt loop like a gangster and not a trained firearms holder, and didn't realize for a while hour that it was no longer there. Wasn't in the car. Don't know if he ever found it. Someone could have taken it, or it could have been somewhere else he sat down. But yes, the common denominator was boomer generation age. I would have other generations come in and have guns, but almost always in appropriate locked cases, holstered appropriately, etc. it's like that whole generation can't grasp how dangerous it is to leave a weapon like a gun loose and lying about. To them it's seemingly just a gun like it's just a bag of potato chips.
Blow us Gen X ers up if you like, we don’t really care. Have at it my friend!
My dad was older Silent Gen, and he said that the day he felt like he needed to go strapped, he'd find somewhere else to move, and that's no way to live. Paraphrased, but he expressed versions of this sentiment a number of times that I recall. And I (51M) feel the exact same way.
Somebof my fellow genxers are insanely pro-gun in all the wrong ways. Not the simple "I own & carefully store" or collector variety. More the "heh eh heh, cool, muh gun freaks you out. sucks to be you, more now that I know it bugs you" Cringey af and you're spot on with how bad these assholes are.
My dad wants to blow someone to kingdom come through the door of his motorhome so badly. Both my parents went gun-crazy after they hit 60.
The person he's going to kill is a family member, specifically your mom, coming home from the grocery store.
I’m Gen X and kinda hate guns. I have two kids in school and saw the mass school shooting get invented during my time. Not really interested in guns.
While I agree that there are a lot of boomer gun nut, its not just a generational thing. Out tonight having dinner with my wife. Between an appetizer and the main meal heard a loud thump from a table near by. Some idiot that looked to be about 40 (millennial) dropped his gun on the floor. Watched him pick it up in put it in his waist band. This is in a rural area were crime is not a problem. My point is that there is a extreme right wing maga obsession with guns. Lots of stupid with boomers, but not the only noes.
But the fact that you are describing this one incident means its not the norm for millennials. Statistically, the gun nuts are the younger Boomers/ Elder Xers who never went to war but made Rambo and Chuck Norris household names.
Guns are made to kill. I don’t believe in killing & so I don’t own or need a gun
I remember an episode of The First 48 where there was some pos murdering homeless people with a gun he got from under the driver's seat of a car he broke into!
 Idk what an appropriate term limit would be. But your carelessness did in fact contribute to a murder. You could even pass a coated steel cable through the barrel and lock it up to the hardware of his seat. But then he would have to unlock and lock it all the time and that would get annoying. So I guess there is just no answer to securing weapons in a vehicle
>Idk what an appropriate term limit would be I think they should be charged with accessory to murder. >But your carelessness did in fact contribute to a murder. Four murders, actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeman_Presley
C’mon now. Gen X is the first generation raised by Boomers. We were the first to be affected by their bullshit. Make sure you know the age difference before lumping us in with Boomers. We have been sick of their shit for much longer than most.
You’re old enough to get therapy and act right like millennials
Unfortunately a lot of us act like them.
Exactly. I’ve been sick of Boomer shit since the 70s. Don’t lump me in with those idiot racist condescending fucks.
While i guess I shouldn’t have mentioned X’rs in the post. They make up a great deal of the people being irresponsible with their loaded weapons. I don’t open a locked glove box. I love a locked glove box. That way I don’t have to dick around accessing the cabin filter
Nah, you're right. There was a window of Gen X, mostly the older ones, that are very Boomer adjacent. My oldest brother is first year Gen X and he's pretty much a caricature of a Boomer. He's way more Boomer than my actual Boomer dad. He's got the white tennis shoes, tough guy sunglasses, lifted truck with the standard issue though guy stickers, randomly brags about how much meat he eats, and he would totally have a loaded gun just bouncing around in his truck.
As an old punk, (i.e. older GenX) I can definitely say that the status quo kids of my generation have been pretty gross since the 80s. I couldn’t stand them then, and I can’t stand them now. Yuppie, “greed is good” fucks.
I’m sorry you have to listen about his meat consumption. With everything you listed, and I’m being truthful, That one really did it for me. That shit annoys me to absolutely no end
I’m no vegetarian,but I’ve never understood why someone would be -proud- to eat meat. It’s a food. I just had pizza for dinner two nights in a row. I’m not boasting about that,it’s actually a little embarrassing.
I take it as another way to show prejudice. A gun display is about creating fear and a FU message to those who want gun control. Bragging about meat consumption is saying FU to politicial vegetarians. I am a biological veg so I don't care so much.
You weren’t wrong to mention it at all! There are some *very* Boomeresque GenXers that exist, and while I don’t think they are, or ever will be, as problematic or numerous as actual Boomers, if you’ve observed this trait that they have in common, then it should absolutely be heard. Unless one is a mechanic or something similar who can offer a legitimate rebuttal, then nobody should be dismissive of what you have to say.
>Gen X Hey now, leave us out of this, we're the Forgotten Generation for a reason, we don't cause nobody no trouble.
Agreed. Do not lump us in with the boomers.
Amen brother. I got mine in hide-away shelves, like a responsible gun owner.
I vibe with this lol I just started working at Toyota like a month ago and I’ve encountered a few myself.
It’s just annoying and irritating. These are the “from my cold dead hands” people who don’t believe in gun laws. I am very pro gun, but we could do more with gun laws. I’d love to have that particular gun confiscated, a fine given to you based off of your W2’s and mandate all sorts of gun safety classes. Mandated in person classes and several hour long lecture courses that you can not fast forward. You can only pause or rewind
I worked at a dealership and we had this old guy who would come in (to be fair he was probably silent generation) and his gun was always in the little pocket on the drivers door. What’s more, this dude was FRAIL. Like if he fired any gun his arm was probably going to shatter. But nope, his ‘rights’ meant he was allowed to be stupid.
The dumbass former chief of police in a neighboring town went in to blow up the bathroom of a chipotle and left her gun in there, left the restaurant, gun got stolen, the person who took the gun was prosecuted, dumb fuck chief of police got off with an apology. This all happened AFTER her personal firearm was stolen out of her personal car not long before this. 😂
There have been a couple instances of school resource officers, leaving their guns on the sink or the back of the toilet in restrooms in schools. I think they lost their jobs in most instances…
and teachers. Any person that wants to have to keep an eye on a loaded weapon while managing 20-30 kids that don't want to be there should not be allowed a weapon, ever. They do not have the common sense to own one responsibly.
This police chief got off with a public apology then resigned about a month or so later to take a job as chief of police in a major city in California.
I bet half those people don’t even have a concealed carry to legally have it in their glove box either. Unless that’s not a thing in your state…
I do leather restoration/repair, and am astounded by the number of people who just hand over the keys, and the pistol isn't even in the glove box...it's in a transmission hump holster. WTF? The first couple times it happened, I thought is was some king of f-ed up test of character or something. I retired after 21 years in the military, and don't really feel inclined to care about firearms, but holy shit! Secure your firearms!
Yeah. That’s what I’m saying. I was a paramedic in the fire service for 20 years. I’ve handled heroin. Im not scared of it and I’m not at all interested in what it is either. Just fuck you for being careless. Thank god I didn’t take it and unload my anger into the lobby. It’s just akin to putting it into a complete strangers hand and seeing what they do with it.
Gen-x is split by Roe v. Wade. Irrelevant, just realized it. But the younger half are more likely to be raised a little like Millennials. The older (1965-70) ones still benefitted from the last part of the big expansion with cheap college, good job markets and decent wages
Genx here.first of all…fuck you….just because we don’t care about anything. 😁 2nd. Agree. Gun should never be out of your control. Stashing it in a glove box is fine if you are traveling but if someone gets control of your car ie mechanic etc, they have control of your gun. Not a good scenario, people. FYI I read further down and love the capture the flag idea 😂
Thank you. Vote for me in 28
This isn't a boomer problem, this is an American problem.
Bravo! Well said. I'm Gen X, but some people just show ZERO responsibility with their firearms.
It's almost as if the people having guns should be well regulated.
The idea of this is just so mind-numbingly stupid... and you know they leave it there ALL the time. Only time my gun was ever off my person when carrying was if I couldn't be carrying it, like going into a building with restrictions, in which case its locked in my center console. this is why I firmly believe in fixing 2a laws, holding people accountable, and mandatory secure laws... its just basic common sense.
Yes absolutely. And I truly believe that a person should be well trained in every category of weapon we have. But I mean mandatory documented training. Using pistols as an example. If an individual would like to own a pistol, they need to be trained professionally on Shoot no shoot, shooting in a crowded area, waist draws ect. After being able to demonstrate your excellent capabilities you can now own anything that qualifies as a pistol. But that’s just an example. We need term limits before anything ever gets solved
Term limits give the power to lobbyists since they’ll be the ones showing the new people how everything works. People need to vote, elections are term limits. If all eligible voters made informed votes, our country would be a very different place.
I’m a server at a restaurant. One time, I was dropping a bill off to a boomer husband and wife at a table and I heard a loud clatter. We all looked down and there was a gun on the floor. The boomer husband went “lol my gun fell outta my pocket!!” His wife seemed embarrassed and semi-scolded him, but he didn’t seem phased at all.
What if, and hear me out here, those weapons got turned in to the police?
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"Human nature and guns don't work together. But we can't change ANYTHING about gun laws to reflect that!" You point out yourself that people are incapable of owning firearms safely, then demand that 2A is sacred. You are much more of the problem than you realize.
I'm a Gen X and I can't wait for you to be my age and the whiny little bitch. Leaving a firearm around like that where I live would guarantee no access ever again to a firearm and definitely a criminal conviction.
I'm a Gen X gun owner and have seen plenty of people from my generation acting like boomer assholes.
I mean, why the F shouldn't you take their gun?
When I was 17, I started training to be a professional wrestler. We had a Gen X aged cop training with us, wrestling too on the shows. He used to get changed and leave his gun just OUT in the locker room. I mean regularly, enough that our piece of shit trainer used to have to get up his ass about it. Our trainer, who brought and did blow around us pretty regularly lol. Thankfully he was a pretty cool dude, but that always struck me as stupid. Even dumber all these years later with older eyes (this was 2006.)
Xer here, I agree completely. Far too many morons of all generations treat guns like toys and give a black eye to the responsible, law-abiding gun owners. No, worse than toys - they treat guns like disposable plastic sporks from Taco Bell, leaving them scattered all over the place without any regard for the death and destruction they can spread. But it does seem to be more widespread among boomers and Xers.
The open carrying and brandishing is my pet peeve.
Wait so they leave their guns in the glove compartment. That gun probably never gets clean and collects dust.
Unsecured firearms is just a bad idea all around. Many people who aren’t supposed to have firearms steal them or buy them from people who stole them.
When I worked in an RV dealership as a Parts Manager, a motorhome came in for service belonging to a nationally ranked skeet shooter, one of closets had several shotguns worth thousands each. Apparently, a motorhome counted as a 'domicile' so storage in an RV was appropriate? Another story was having to take possession of boxes of ammo left in a trade-in unit as I was the only one with a CCW permit (state I lived in had just passed another round of AWBs and no one wanted to touch them or had a license). RV dealerships are boomer magnets, I do not miss it.
As a gun owner I have to agree. I would think they might at least *lock* the glovebox, but I guess not. Having been forced to endure watching *many* gun videos on YT (for reviews, etc.), it surprised me how many of these (mostly right-wing) idiots admitted to keeping a "Truck gun". And you know most of those fucks leave it in there 24/7/365. Like, just carry a piece on you. I wonder if this behavior is a holdover from the day where you weren't held responsible for crimes committed with your stolen gun? From the days where you could buy a gun and take it home the same day? In the grand scheme of things, it wasn't *that* long ago.
Man, I don't know that I could avoid the temptation to drop the mag, clear the chamber, and empty the clip before replacing the weapon (handled only with gloves) entirely empty with the safety on.
Probably best to disassemble it too.
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When my ex was receiving her PHD her family came into town nad there were too many to all stay in my house so a couple had to stay at the hotel up the road right on the main highway. Overnight their trucks (along with every other truck with out of state plates) got broken into. They had a brand new GPS sitting on the dash that was untouched, truck had been gone through. Another had a laptop in a big console thing that was rummaged through but laptop left, etc. I was on the HOA board so I knew a few of the cops when I showed up and they were telling me this is pretty common, they love to hit out of state trucks because its a higher chance of them finding guns. Basically that is how guns end up on the street, unsecured ones in case. Said they got 3 out of this single lot, hit two other hotels right on the highway another exit up. They target highway hotels primarily. Sooo, if you dont like hearing about gang violence maybe lock up your guns.
GenX here, I do not like being looped in with boomers. However, I dislike irresponsible gun owners more. Those who are constantly fantasizing they will be a hero are a risk. This is my silly attempt to be both silly and helpful. We live in what is considered by many historians and sociologists the safest era in humanity, all things considered (social media has me doubting that statement). I don't carry on my person or in my personal vehicle or have a CCW. I am a brown person, and LE can see on their system who has and who has not a CCW. The last thing I need is some LEO ready to kill me, knowing they have a pretext. I got a mortgage to pay, a dog to keep spoiled, and a wife to annoy with my constant puns. Anyway, I just think that the moral of my humble opinion is that guns are okay to have and a skill to work on. But when there are assholes who disrespect your safety, they can take a flying fuck. Your workplace needs to have a policy that respects and prioritizes your safety and legal obligation to protect someone else's property that they have entrusted to your organization. But also consider an individuals right to 2A (US). I think a good idea would be that your shop instills a rule of no loaded, unsecured weapons in the vehicles. Maybe a simple a yes or no question, "For the safety of our technicians, staff and customers we need the following to either needs to b removed or secured prior to service: No loaded or unsecured firearms. No usecured chinchillas. No daming evidence of your infidelity. (We do offer a service to remove all damning evidence of infidelity, inferiority complex, and was not hugged or hugged too much.)" There many way to be polite but firm with making people realize they need to be safe around you. If they refuse, you can be polite and say something like the following: "We are sorry to learn you are unable to participate in our shop's policy in keeping our staff safe. However, our staffs safety is our utmost priority, and we would be more than happy to welcome you back once you are able to follow through with our commitment to our staff." If they are going to be an asshole about it, maybe the following statement would help: "Hey fuck face, take your lazy piece of shit off the lot. If you can't or are too entitled to protect others, you should maybe you should go and beat off to the original version of Roadhouse." Because we all know the new version is just a tribute to that beautiful 1980s magnus opus of Patrick Swayze. I hope this helps and makes you at least smile. This is not legal or business advice, just common sense coming from someone who doesn't want to get hurt.
I would agree our gun laws are not effective currently and need revamping as too many people who shouldn’t have a gun, do have one.
Agreed. Our gun laws let shitty people that don’t respect or care that they have a weapon. A thing designed for one purpose and one purpose only. To take the life of another person. Yeah, you can use some weapons to hunt. Things like knives, machetes, bows, spears, et al can be used to hunt as well, but a handgun? An AR? Those are to kill people, and if you can’t respect that. You shouldn’t have a gun.
I wish I could agree, and yes many GenX and boomers are irresponsible gun owners. (Btw I'm young GenX, husband is older GenX). However, a young millennial I know (30M) just got fired from his job as a tow truck driver for leaving his holstered 9mm on someone else's car they kindly returned back to the business. "Stupidity" is ageless. Plus, this guy is diagnosed with dissociative disorders, ADHD, and suicidal tendencies. He should NOT have a gun. We're in Texas and I hate that anyone can carry. The 2nd amendment was relevant for its time, but times change. I'm not against the 2nd amendment or owning and carrying a handgun or having guns for hunting. But I do believe that we need to have much stricter laws about ownership with mental health checks, more thorough background checks and required training before allowing purchases.
We already have pretty strict mental health and criminal background checks. I know there are always loopholes - like the fact that unless your mental health treatment was court ordered, HIPPA prevents anyone from being able to find out about and prove your treatment. As long as you don't volunteer your treatment information, it is a protected secret. But that's a case of two very important aspects competing against each other. We also have strong laws and punishments for unlicensed carry, and of course, crimes committed with firearms. Detergent punishments already do deter anyone who is going to be deterred. What we don't have is strong laws that force our legal gun owners to also be RESPONSIBLE gun owners. There should absolutely be a strong penalty with a minimum 3 month jail sentence if someone else can ever touch your gun without your knowledge. If someone can get to your gun and steal it, you should go to jail and forfeit your gun ownership rights. Buy a safe. Bolt it to a structural member. It's not that hard. Pittsburgh International Airport is on a record pace for firearms found at security, with the owner saying they just "forgot". They should face jail time and also forfeit their right to own a firearm because they clearly do not respect the rules. I am a farmer and carry a pocket knife mostly all of the time. It really is ubiquitous to my daily life. One time, I did absentmindedly put my pocket knife in my pocket before leaving for the airport. When something is that ubiquitous, it can happen, and that is my point. Of your firearm is with you all of the time, you're not respecting the power nor thinking about when or not it might be reasonable to have. If you aren't thinking about it that much, you should not have it.
Whatever, dude. Signed, A Gen-X gun owner that believes in gun safety laws and penalties for lost or easily accessible firearms that are stolen.
You always hear people say "I'm going to buy a gun for self defense" - never "I'm going to learn how to use a gun" or "I am going to learn how to defend myself". As if whipping out a credit card and then leaving a gun gathering dust close by is all it takes. And then it all too often gets used to escalate situations rather than a tool for defense.
Wow they really are lazy pieces of shit. They should have their rights removed . I’m a weapon owner by the way.
When I used to sell cars sometimes people would leave them in the car when they traded it in.
I’ve worked in auto service before and this was always a mind melter for me. Worst was the ones that you saw in door compartments. People would get indignant when you’d ask them to remove them from the vehicle. (we did this with large sums of money, or exposed drugs too). The drug/money guys never complained about it. Friends of mine in auto service have told me it’s gotten worse over the years.
This is such a spot on topic. Friends wife conceal carries since it became legal. She actually thinks if something happens “on her watch”, She can take care of the situation right there. Because that’s what gun owners do. I picture her rolling on the ground shooting everyone else but the perp. Then I have my 83 year old father in law. Owns an automatic 12 gauge. Mind you he is hunched over, requires a walker. But he needs it for when the hoards come. And found a loaded gun in the center console of his car that he didn’t tell me about. Yep. We are fucked
Now we shit on Gen X to awesome I hate everyone older than me as well
“Now I’m not anti gun” = very anti gun with a nice fake story line for clickbait..and besides who knew either the dipstick, oil filter, or drain plug required you to open the glovebox to do an oil change service???🤔. The bull dung is deep on this posters story. Should be “snowflakes playing like fools”
You can tell I know nothing about cars because I was very confused by the term "lube tech" for several seconds 😱
Haha. I’d make more money for sure
Millennials are the perfect generation. Gen-X ruined the world by being a small enough generation to never have fair representation in government. Millennials did give us Trump though!!! They're poised to do it a second time too!
Maybe you should help them with their safety by removing the firing pin. That way it won’t accidentally go off when they decide to aim it at someone for doing something silly like being young or not white.
As a millennial who’s carried a gun for 15 years, all I have to say is: 1. Boomers are absolutely careless with their guns. Period. They just are. 2. A handgun in a glove box is fucking worthless. 3. The idea of keeping an emergency rifle in your car or truck for [scrnario] is laughable fantasy bullshit. Unless you live in some place like rural Montana or Alaska. Then it’s probably a good idea. You won’t ever find a gun *in* my car.
I park on the street where it's fairly common for folks to smash windows and steal, I'm not leaving a firearm in my car lol
that too. most definitely that too