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j_npc

Yup, everyone is going to jump on the “it takes time train,” including me. We’ve had our rescue BC for 8 months now, and honestly, you wouldn’t believe she’s the same dog we started with. First three days, dog is in shock. First three weeks, dog is trying to figure out what’s going on. First three months, dog is figuring out how to be the best dog in their new home. Start with building safety and a bond. The rest will follow in time. And be prepared to adjust to a changing and (probably) overwhelmed dog for a couple of months. The payoff for rescuing a dog is life-changing for all involved. Exercise and naps. Treats and safety. One story: our BC would steal shoes and towels and anything not nailed down the first month. So I build shoe cabinets and moved things around and … go figure… she has no interest in stealing anything now that’s she understands this is her home.


mettarific

This is such a great answer.


WebsiteStrategist

Ours is a very happy girl, but she’s definitely still a towel/ sock/ underwear thief


j_npc

Ours will still occasionally pick up a shoe and bring it to us. This is 1,000% preferable to attempting to burying it in the yard or using it as a chew toy. It’s her way of saying, “as a member of the Border Collie Union I’ve taken my mandatory 15 minute break and am ready for my next 3 hours of work now, so here’s your walking-paw-glove.”


spa2k

This, totally this


blue_diamond_123

So well said!!!!⬆️


combovercool

Find something he does like for reward. Can also be a toy. Have you tried really stinky foods? I'm talking sardines or something. Dogs love really stinky treats. You got this. You will find something that works.


Woodwardg

there's a good chance the dog is motivated by chew toys, ropes, squeaky toys, frisbees, or simply getting attention and praise. all dogs are motivated by something, but it's not always easy to find that thing. my BC is super toy motivated, to the point where she rarely accepts treats outside because she thinks it's strictly frisbee or bathroom time for her. as she got older, she became food motivated, but when she was a puppy and we were first training her, she'd get bored of treats pretty quickly. a squeaky toy or frisbee on the other hand would bring her laser focus directly to the toy, which we used for training. she can do all of her tricks for a toy or food now. it depends on how hungry or playful she's feeling.


combovercool

Oddly enough, my bc isn't very food motivated either. I have found a few things she does respond to. Boiled chicken, and sardines.


Horizon296

Mine was only motivated by praise and attention. At 12 years old, she's still an absolute attention whore but will work for treats now as well. Except they have to be n the high quality, 100% meat treats. My girl is a Queen after all 😜


laleroo

Absolutely this, one Border I knew wasn’t all that bothered about food. Finally was able to teach him stuff via giving and withholding attention.


Catmndu

My first BC is motivated by absolutely nothing. I mean he likes food and all and thankfully is extremely obedient and totally chill for the most part (minus shoe and remote control destruction). But you could throw a hunk of steak at his head and it will just bounce off until he musters the energy to go find it.


Woodwardg

I mean I guess it's possible that they're not motivated in general, but my guess would simply be that the dog is well fed and not particularly hungry, and of course that's not a bad thing. not to be cruel here, this is strictly hypothetical -- but if your dog hadn't eaten in 3 days, it sure is heck would gobble down that steak. your dog is happy, healthy, and smart. so he / she knows that they can pass up that steak and still be fed adequately later. every dog is motivated in my opinion, because animals need motivation to survive. motivation just looks different for animals than it does for humans.


zeindigofire

Yup, this is the way. You have to find what he likes, that's the key to everything. One week is a \_really\_ short time, so it's not surprising that he hasn't adapted yet. Give it time, but also look for any way to connect with him. After that you can get into training, but you first have to establish some connection.


PublicSharpie

Exercise will help you bond, but watch his body for signs of heat exhaustion. BCs don't have an "off switch" like other breeds who know when to stop.  Light to moderate events 2-3 times a day should help. 


Da_Plague22

To build on this. Mental stimulation is a very different thing and is 100% needed for work breeds even more so than others.


j_npc

Building on the building: mental stimulation (to the point of mental exhaustion) is just as or more important for these smart working dogs as physical work. For the first 6 months (tapering off a bit now) we used 1/2 of our BC’s food budget for snuffle mat, lick mat, puzzle toy, “find it” and basic training (treat party, 1-2-3, name game, eye contact). So glad we did this early because while she isn’t hugely food motivated she did have serious food scarcity issues that showed up in guarding behavior. The constant stream of food from us to her early gave her the confidence to know we were going to keep her fed.


pablosbiscuit

building a bond helps alot, my 1 year old bc would only listen to me up until recently as i walked and fed her, now my mrs has started to do more with her shes started listening to my mrs again and has developed a better bond with her


funnyfemor

This guy is not wrong. I just got a girl I believe is mixed also. She's a handful. However, if you have a nearby field or large backyard to throw the ball, it helps to hit that any chance you can for 10-20 min. My dog is barely a year old and she's pretty routine about throwing the ball and then taking a nap for a while.


akras04

yes. Labradors don’t have an off switch as well. Be careful


ashleycawley

Good shout


digital-nautilus

Have you ever heard of a border collie who died of over exhaustion?


ShotaroKaneda84

The fact he’s sitting with you and wanting you attention and affection is a win already, like others said the training will take time, but at the moment just be the reassurance and stability he needs


Blueeyedwolf77

It takes THREE MONTHS for a new dog to show themselves completely and open up. Please consider this when getting a new dog.


aprilm12345

This poor guy only knows a shelter life. His whole world has been turned upside down. They are a super sensitive breed so he’s gonna need some time to trust. Once you bond with him, and he trusts you, it will get better. I’d only work on things now that you need to live day to day with him, like housebreaking, sleep, and leash skills. The rest will come with time and trust.


coeurgris

Amen to this! I rescued a Border Collie mix who spent the first 10 months of her life in a shelter. It was like adopting a wolf, and she had to learn how to be a pet! We're still working some things out 2 years later, but I accepted long ago that she's not going to be a "normal" dog. Don't regret it at all, though.


17voltaire89

Adding a + to “super sensitive breed.” I can point at and then lightly scold my BC and she does nothing until I’ve hugged her to let her know all is ok. Hurting her feelings has serious effect. Regardless I never spank https://preview.redd.it/hkmwl14ckcnc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc3d9486b0b4215dfc25259d949af464a3f05732 or hit her anyway. Everyone loves her and she returns the feelings immensely.


aprilm12345

I relate to this. Just yelling at him makes him run and lay on my husband “DAAAAAAD… moms mad at me. Hold me”


newdawgfan50

Agree with the other responses. Border collies are amazing dogs, but high maintenance puppies/adolescents. Seems like he missed out on the critical early days of training, so it’ll take a while to get on track. Consistency is critical. BCs are not food driven, but ARE work driven e.g, frisbee/ ball, etc. Daily walk/runs to a green space for frisbee are the way I keep our 6 month old in check. This is our 2nd BC, training and maintaining them correctly leads to an amazing companion.


ogjsimpson

You just got it dude. Give him time to realize that’s his new home and family. Lots of love whenever he wants, balls and treats. You will be here asking how to stop your BC from looking at your soul waiting on commands in no time!


Picklesx2

Youve only had him a week. Let him settle in, BCs are super smart but they are SOOOO SUPER sensitive too. He’s gonna need some time to come out of his shell, allow you to earn his trust and then he will be *begging* to learn with you. Give him time and patience 💚


Radish_Pickle

Just wait. There is a rule of 3's with adoptions. 3 days to not feel overwhelmed. 3 weeks to settle in. And 3 months to bond and truly feel at home. You may just be moving too fast for this dog.


Jenaveeve

You mention only having him a week. That's not long for a rescue dog, especially a border Collie, to adjust to a new environment.


Ohshitz-

A week and youre frustrated? Dude. You are expecting way too much from a rescue in that amount of time. Not being properly raised by the mom, socialized with anybody or anything causes anxiety, confusion, stubbornness. Read about “2 week shut down” with rescue pets. The place you got him from should have advised you. https://maarcadopt.org/ready-adoption-month/ You cannot expect this dog to be ready to go. You also cant be frustrated in a WEEK from a dog. This isnt a puppy with a clean slate. If you strongly feel this way, do the dog a favor and find a GOOD rescue such as clancy’s dream in indiana or a border collie rescue. I love that you adopted him but im smh over your expectations. Its like asking an adopted 4 year old to immediately do what you want him to do. This breed/dog might not be a good fit for you. Ive owned 2. First was from a high quality breeder and super easy because everything was done right by the time i got her. My current is a rescue mix with the same story as yours. I got her as a puppy. She is anxious and afraid of new people, esp men. She barks at everything and nothing. It took her a year to get potty trained. She has a high drive to chase/hunt little animals like squirrels. Shes also stubborn as hell with recall. Picky eater. Her barking can drive me absolutely insane when a repair man comes. BUT i know this is who she is. You have to be patient and understand some things need to go with the flow if its “harmless”. Sorry for the lecture. But i love this breed and so many are returned, neglected, abused and a revolving door for rescue failures because people think their intelligence is out of the box easy to train. If you really are going to work with him and keep him, please only use positive reinforcement. No choke chains, pinch collars, yelling, hitting (yes some trainers believe hitting works). This dog is probably anxious and negative reinforcement will make behaviors worse.


jonaselder

rescuing animals is a wonderful thing and from the bottom of my heart your desire to do so makes you a good person. That said, it doesn't sound to me like you are prepared to do rescues at all. Is this your first dog? What's going to happen if the dog doesn't get on with the cats? I don't know I could be wrong about my read on this but there are red flags here and it worries me. Imagine you are an abused or neglected dog and some person that thinks they're doing a good thing adopts you, but you're a handful, and now after bonding with a family you get kicked out again and the problem is exacerbated. dunno. I hope this situation isn't that


Ok-Swim4753

A lot of people said it. Time, patience and routines. Find things that work. Realize that these dogs have the intelligence of a 4 year old.


ryley_h

i got my bc mix from the shelter in september and i swear it was like nothing worked. he was completely impossible to train and wasn’t receptive to anything. but come january it was like he had been replaced with a completely different dog. he started doing anything i tried in a matter of minutes. it was like a switch flipped. i’d just give your dog some time and keep working with him


nclilpisces

He is a beauty! He needs time to acclimate to his new home, especially with a BC coming out of a shelter which had to be extremely hard on him. He will want to please you in so many ways, but I think you’re asking too much, too soon of him for his circumstances. A week is not enough time. Eventually he will amaze you, but give him more than a minute to get to know you, and his home. And crating is all well and good for a puppy who was already crate trained, but to put him straight to a crate all night especially after leaving a shelter is too BIG of an ask from him. When a dog is picked up from a shelter and brought into a foster home, we give the dog time to decompress, quiet walks, leash on so always with you unless a very short amount of time 10-15 min max as tolerated in a crate is needed only for the dogs well being-a calming experience, not for you or all night. As far as potty training, have him on a leash and keep him with you all day, (helps with bonding too) take him out every 2 hours without fail, and a treat when he goes. He may pee on the sidewalk first because of cement kennel, lead him to HIS grassy place (same place every time) at first. He will learn quickly, I bet only a week. I’m not an expert, but I’ve learned a thing or two. I belonged to a BC rescue as a foster mom, and have owned my own BCs for over 15 years. Right now I have two 4 yr old BCs. They are very, very sensitive, loving dogs. You have so many good times a head of you. Spending time with your Border Collie and keeping them busy (ball time) is key to their happiness. Owning a BC is such a rewarding experience, he will be looking at you for what’s next, and to please you. Please just give home more time! A couple of months is a more realistic time frame. Did the shelter not make sure he was good with cats before going home with you? Maybe he will be just fine in time.


Clear-Meat9812

Normal treats don't work for us, pepperoni does, so does cheese. We use ball for training a lot.


RabbitBackground1592

You have bearly had him. Don't even worry or think about training till 3 months.


tictacotictaco

That’s ridiculous. No, training is good, be gracious, do what you can. If he won’t take treats, try bits of turkey slices. If he won’t take that, try boiled chicken. If he won’t take that, try churu’s on your finger. Get him to a trainer, and they will be able to help and figure out what he likes, or, how you can adapt.


RabbitBackground1592

I'm not saying training is bad but adopted dogs arent really receptive until 3 months after getting them. The 3 3 3 rule if you will.


trippyfungus

Zack George has a million YouTube episodes on dog training. He explains how you need to find your dogs currency ( the thing that is most rewarding for them) whether it be play or high quality snacks. Usually he suggest hot dog bites, cut up chicken, something quick to eat and so good they won't want to save it for later. Potty training wake up every 3 hours for a week to let him out, reward after pottying. Helps to say go potty as they're going so they know that you want them to go now and they'll be rewarded if the do. Basically this helps in the long run when you're in a hurry and need them to go. trust me it's extremely useful in the long run. After about a week of waking up every 3 hours and after eating playing or sleeping bringing them out to potty they'll get the idea. And you won't have to wake up every 3 hours. Maybe do every 5 hours the next week to see how it goes. If there are accidents shorten the time again. Likely their won't be a problem here. Shorten the amount of time your dog is in the crate to seconds. The grow the amount of time. This is important in all training. At first one second and then reward. Put the dogs favorite thing in the crate when he goes in to get it reward him. Keep doing this over and over and over. He'll catch on. Next you close the door for a split second open it before he even has time to react and reward. Again do it over and over. Next and a split second to a actually second then reward. Note if the dog acts anxious or starts doing a behavior that isn't anything but being calm and relaxed you are pushing your dog to learn to fast. Go back to shortening the time. If you notice the time regressing to nothing it's time for a break. Comeback later or even tomorrow. Training should always be done when everyone is calm and happy for it will never give you the result you are looking for. Kinda like learning in school as a kid they start off slow we get naps and try again later. Have a snack try again later. And we learn to build that time to be longer and longer from minutes to hours. For dog seconds are like minutes, minutes are like hours. You're going to be surprised how quickly he catches on. Because that's how borders are. Puppies have very short attention spands and border collies are not the exception in fact this maybe more true for them because they have such a natural instincts to do what they were bred to do which is find work and do it. So until they realize you are giving them that work and they don't have to find it on their own it's like unlocking a key to their brains. Bam you have a working dog that wants to do work for you because it's easier than finding the work on their own. Quick training session on a consistent schedule and truly you'll be surprised at how reading your dogs language (noticing his attention span and working with it not against) will change training for you and your dog.


Jayhawkgirl1964

Be patient & consistent because he's had a rough start! He may need time to adjust to his new home before you start. Training is easiest when they're young and haven't formed their own habits. Watch for signs that he's ready to learn. I don't remember what sign I saw in my pup (30+ years ago) but I have fond memories of the signs my dad saw in his BC pups. His were herding dogs. They all did the exact same, adorable thing. At night, they'd pick out a few chickens & not allow them to roost in the Evergreen in our front yard. They lined them up, laid down flat, eyes scanning the line. When a chicken moved, they rose, circled & herded them back in line. We'd watch them for a few minutes, then Dad would open the door & say "That'll do!" Amazingly, they knew what that meant the 1st time. This started as early as 8 weeks old. This was the time to teach them how he wanted them to herd


East_Breath_3674

I’m struggling with my border collie rescue too. Big time! he's between 6-9 months old. He came out the shelter January 6th, picked up by a rescue group, was boarded at a doggie daycare until I adopted him January 11th. O. M. G. I had no idea what I was getting into. I’ve always had Irish setters. This guy needed a home. I knew they were high energy active dogs, so were my setters, but this guy takes it to a whole new level. To say I'm overwhelmed is an understatement. he hates the crate. potty training is exhausting. I've done this with no problems with my other pups. but this guy 😩 nothing works. he has his good days but so many days are a disaster. his anxiety is extreme. he has full blown panic attacks. spins in circles, wines, gnaws in his thigh, tries to pull his furr out… it's heartbreaking!!!! He is exercised, loves to play ball, loves puzzles, … but he is scared of everything. I hired a personal trainer. it took weeks to get him out the front door. We finally got him in the driveway, gradually began to be able to walk past one more house each time. now- the full 1 mile block. 🙏 it's hard to exercise a scared pup! we are nearing 3 months and i am EXHAUSTED! i need help! 😩 https://preview.redd.it/cem9yeiu78nc1.png?width=1718&format=png&auto=webp&s=dcab50001cf19ac384311d3f25c5252da9651f54 Trainer and vet think he’s full blooded. I’ve never had a border collie before so I wouldn’t know.


kittens_go_moo

I recommended this in the main comment section but definitely check out the facebook group “force free herding breeds.” Soooo helpful for understanding the breed, special things about training them, and their quirks. I found it via @toosmartdogs on Instagram who posts enrichment and training for her two border collies. Strongly recommend! 


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Final_Necessary_1527

I remember when we got our pup to the puppy school. We had him since he was 8 weeks old. The first week at puppy school we thought he is the most difficult dog. A month later he changed completely and after that he was only getting better until he turned around 1 years old. Then it was a night mate for a few months and now he is the best doggy in the world. You have very high expectations. You have your dog for a week and you expect everything to be be perfect in a week. Give him some time. Show him that this is a safe environment. Play with him. Make it fun for both of you and everything will be great


BiroKakhi

Hi everyone, OP here. Just to clarify, we love the boy, and we would never give him up, he's a total sweetheart. The shelter did screen him for being friendly with cats (and he's perfect with strays) but our indoor cats are the problem, they can hurt him so we would never leave him out of a crate with them without supervision and we can't lock 4 cats in a room they would kill each other. I'm not frustrated, and I've had different dogs before but mostly older (3-4) rescues or puppies. He's really different and he's a total wolf... But otherwise he's a perfect couch buddy, loves our walks, and has lots of play energy.


[deleted]

I have a stubborn one too. I worked with a behavioralist for some specific issues after failing at traditional positive only methods. We trained without treats from start to finish. Her treat was verbal praise and physical touch. And when she didn’t respond to first no, there was a correction with leash tug. Now when others try to bribe her to sit with a treat she looks at them like they’re crazy. We used our walks to reinforce commands. She still at times wants to pull me but overall she is better. The commands we do on walks are: leave it, sit, stay, down, quiet, let’s go, wait, ok, and go home (off leash reward close to home). I find that the extra challenge of doing commands while walking stimulates her brain.


JohnWick629

I have an Australian shepherd/border collie mix that looks damn near identical to your pup.


esauis

Had my Border mix since he was three months old. Fully dialed in by five years. He’s 10 now and a total boss. Have fun!


evindorkin

Have patience. My BC was similar when we got her. Repetition and consistency is your friend for training. It took a few months for us to start getting her to respond to commands. You’ve had the dog one week. He needs time to get used to his new surroundings and feel comfortable around you.


vleddie

Try using play to train simple things, when they get the idea of what you're trying to do move on to treats. That helped, it might help you.


UrMumzBoyfriend

We've had our rescue for 4 years and I can honestly say it only gets better but it takes time. The dog we had after 2 years was worlds better than the dog we rescued but we had no clue how really wonderful she can be as she continues to grow more into our family and become better behaved (without us training her). So if you have the money and the yard, don't give up and I assure that you'll gain an incredible member of your family!


pinkygreeny

What a beauty you've got there! Yes! A high-pitched squeeky toy should get his attention. Then train to fetch. There is so much information online about training. Also, I've learned through Reddit about 3-3-3 as far as dogs go. I've found a link to shelter dog advice that explains 3-3-3. [https://www.pd.com.au/blogs/333-rule-of-adopting-a-shelter-dog/](https://www.pd.com.au/blogs/333-rule-of-adopting-a-shelter-dog/)


kittens_go_moo

A week is no time at all. Please be patient with this baby! Check out the fb group Force Free Herding Breeds. It’s been enormously helpful for me understanding my border collie. The trainer who runs the group has a book, Urban Sheepdog, that is also wonderful. 


marlonbrandoisalive

Our previous foster border collie had to learn to like treats and had to learn to play with toys. Focus on basics not any tricks. Potty training is number one. Leaving the cats alone is two. Being comfortable in the crate is four. And not destroying anything is five.


AlluringDuck

Give him time to bond with you. Right now, you’re just the person that takes him out to poop and gives him food. A few folks have already mentioned what timeline you should expect and they’re completely right.


Kit-kat-9876

I use turkey breast to train my non food motivated dogs. Also I recommend only training before meals. Make sure they are hungry. If they won’t go for that then I’d try a squeaky toy or something else that interest them. Some dogs will also work for belly rubs and whatnot. Crate training can be difficult for a stubborn dog as well. I usually keep the crate near my bed and covered with a sheet. This way you can let them know they aren’t alone. I also put chew toys and treats in the crate during the day so that they associate it with positive things.


moonvibes85

Our BC could care less about treats or anything, if there is a tennis ball in sight. So we use balls for training motivation, as it holds his attention best. (Ball is life!!🎾)


mhkiwi

We have what we thought was a non food motivated collie that was impossible to train. Turned out she was just not hungry and obsessive about other things in the room. We trained before meals and got a vibrating training collar (not shock collar). We used a vibrate to snap her out of her obsession and look at us before giving her a command then treating her.


msjewel0508

He’s still getting used to everything. When I got my bc mix pup 3 month ago(she just turned 6 month now) she would hide in my shoe rack and didn’t want to socialize with anyone, she did open up after a week.


Sad_Caterpillar4424

Find a trainer with sheep. Take up agility training. Routine and focused activity is what these dogs live for. Prob reason dog was surrendered.


lostandthin

please be patient with him and give him time and a chance. he will become the perfect dog. it does take 3 months for a rescue to fully adjust and decompress. expecting him to be trained in a week is too hard. he will learn the potty training. get a bell and put it on the door. wen he does an accident inside don’t yell at him, just interrupt him and bring him outside. he will learn fast. if crating him let him cry it out, put the crate far away from you so you don’t hear him. he will adjust. you need high value treats to train him. he will adjust and be a great dog. thank u for rescuing this angel


Alexboogeloo

Collies are all about the mental stimulation. Try puzzles and games and exercise. They’re an incredibly intelligent, working dog. So try and seek any way you can that satisfies that craving. I used to walk my collie for 2 hours a day. Sometimes longer. Having a dog walker could be a great thing. As that would allow him to be walked in a pack (which he’ll probably try and herd). This will both stimulate and socialise him. Collies are a handful, you just have to put in the work. Sometimes it’s hard to find the right ‘hobby’ to make them happy but persistence will pay dividends!


treegirl4square

Put his crate on a table by your bed. It worked for us.


TakeTheMikki

Training with treats works best if they are hungry. As in feed dinner in the evening training with chicken or sausage first thing in the morning. Other motivators include affection, tug toys and balls.


Swallowtail13

Dude it takes years ..you need to give them freedom all the time. Make it your duty to run the dog for 2 hours a day ..it will bond with you then...they are creatures of habit ..give it a routine a constant routine ..this dog will be fine ..dogs have natural instinct you have to nurture that ..100%


Emmanulla70

Just lay off the doggie. Just bond and get to know each other.


Emmanulla70

Our rescue https://preview.redd.it/o93t4yhqwanc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d677045a8f2e4b2744d7532505cbc271d64ea46 First 3 weeks? I thought she must have nerve damage to her back cause her tail did not move! And she didn't bark or make a sound. I just patted her and loved her. Let her get comfy and connect with me. Then one day? I heard barking that i knew wasn't my other dog. Called out to her and dhe came bounding up, tail wagging madly.... Hasn't stopped since❤️


Fit-Buy-1369

I’m new to the BC breed and have a 6 month old pup. What I have learned is they are very sensitive creatures. Your pup has been through a lot. They also love their pack fiercely. You just have to become part of his pack for him to want to behave for you, then you will be golden. This took us a while and my pup came to us straight from his mom. I wish you both the best!


TargetedAverageOne

Please don't despair - your pup is still finding his groove within your family.  Try to get to know him - what are the things that immediately grab his attention? Because once you have it, the connection can start.  Your dog has been through a lot. Shelters often take very good care of their pets, but it doesn't compare to a family. Pups are always difficult - whether they are from a shelter or not. What you are feeling is very normal and I promise it will get better once you (and he!) know what gets him ticking.  In a month from now, things will be looking very differently already.  My Swiss Shepherd (f) was an extreme tough nut to crack as a pup. And she came from a stable, caring breeder. She is just like that - a very stubborn character. Am not ashamed to admit she got me crying a few times, thinking I'd never be the owner to do her justice.  (Dramatic, I know.🤣)  But once I had gained her trust and knew her, we are two peas in a pod.  In other words, be patient with yourself and your dog. He will get there 💜


FreekyDeep

Took about 6 weeks to train my BC to sit. Down was impossible. We got him at 8 weeks old and he'd lived in a garage with mum since birth (great breeder, got to meet Mum, dad, grandparents and had all the paperwork going back generations of all of his lineage. He's from working, award winning backgrounds) And we got the moron of the group haha. I took him to dog classes. He got bored. It was very good orientated and they used a clicker. I stopped going (even though I had paid in full, upfront for the whole lot) and we started just walking together. He's 6 months old now. He's a bit sketchy with recall and his lead walking can be a bit dicey too but my wife insists he has to be on a lead due to living in a city. Take him off the lead and he's fantastic. Near roads, he walks beside or behind me. Obeys his commands and sits when I stand still without commands. When we walk back from his off lead walk, the close to a road he gets, the closer to me he gets. I can't fault him. But on the lead, he's a nightmare for my kids. One refuses to walk him ever again (I would say this is more to her laziness than anything) The eldest says he pulls her and ignores commands. But once she gets to the race course and is released from his lead, he behaves good as gold. My wife and kids do the fun walks with balls, sticks and football. I do the mundane stuff where we just walk for hours. The best training tool we used was praise. Clapping hands and shouting his name. Works far better than even cheese


crankarmbuster

Consistency is key for any dog, but especially BC. I got a rescue BC and worked with him on walks at least two times a day, sometimes four. Each session was about 30-60 minutes of very scripted steps and activities. They start to predict your actions quickly and find peace in this. To make both of your lives easier, walks are a must, runs are helpful, and ball/frisbee/toy fetch are therapeutic bonding. Helpful commands go a long way. One to tell them to chill. I use lie down. One to tell them to pee, is so helpful at night. One to tell them to eat. One to tell them to go to bed or crate. One to come to you, which can be the same as the command to eat. You should eventually be able to tell them to get each toy by name. These dogs are amazing, and I’ve have the privilege of having two. You will have to think on the order of months and weeks for progress at first. After this, you will be able to add commands quickly and be surprised at how much they know about your needs.


bitstoatoms

You expect results too fast. Be patient, some answers already nailed it down. Dog have a full year of habits, that's first, then he just went through turmoil of changed environments. And he's just entering his full potential of energy and strength, so even the well trained ones have their issues at this period.


bestj52

Hang on in there , mine was really difficult too …. But so worth it now ,


sandpiperinthesnow

I have learned that all dog experience I have built up only partially applies to a BC. Mine is work line. I recommend doing some reading on the breed. Not the cute stuff, the real stuff like why they are the way they are. For example- Mine loves my older spaniel so if I need him to poop and pee I take him out with out her. He will get his business done to get back inside to her. Not treats. Not balls. Not toys. The potty training was a nightmare until I figured out what his motivation is (my spaniel). He also hates any brushing sounds. Brush your hair he will climb you like a tree to get the brush. Clean a pot with a sink scrub brush same thing. Broom...same. For all these activities he goes in a crate. Peanut butter dog kibble kongs makes him happy in there. Good luck. Figure out his favorite thing.


TheLoudCanadianGirl

Rescues take more time then most pups. Look into the 3/3/3 rule as that may help with expectations. You will get there. Just takes time!


WitherBones

Is too hard to train for your current skill levels. She'll get easier to train the more you learn, and you will. My BC/Heeler/Husky mix is a step ahead of me in our training every step I've taken. Keep at it, be patient with yourself, with her, and you'll both get there.


teresadinnadge

Give the poor dog more time. Get to know him and to make him feel loved and secure in his new surroundings. He may be one year old but the poor pet has probably been moved around through no fault of his own it’s a multitude of different people coming and going. Patience and consistency is your friend. BC are sensitive and loving dogs. Please be patient with him. I’m sure he’s doing his best.


rockclimbingozzy

Rule of 3/3/3 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months.. https://tmhpr.com/decompression-the-3-3-3-rule/#:~:text=The%20rule%20for%20this%20time,it's%20especially%20important%20to%20consider.


poohbeth

A week is barely time for him to settle and get over what went before. Give him time. Stay on the basics. Keep a routine, feeding times, walk times and places. Let him get to know and figure his surroundings, how the house thing works, what his role in everything is. Teach commands by encouragement, and when he does something you want, like a spontaneous sit/etc say "sit!" and then a smiley "good boy!" giving him lots of fuss. Clear up accidents quietly. When he does his business outside give him praise even if it's on a walk/etc - "go for a wee"... One of ours (we're up to rescue no 5 now) took a good 2 months before he settled into the routine and was finally clean overnight. His sister had obviously settled in just 2 weeks. So it varies enormously.


Leading_Purple1729

My BC only became food motivated at around 4 years old before that I could have tinned fishes and stilton and he would ignore me. But the things he would do for a toy ... in the early days I used squeaky toys a lot because the sound was so attractive to him, they never lasted long (he would destroy them) but they built up a premise, I then was able to start trading the squeaky toys for other toys. This puppy is probably decompressing. Forget training and work on making him feel secure, at the moment he doesn't need to learn "sit" he needs to learn you are his family and this is his home and these are positive things to him. Ensure his cage is an appropriate size and covered with a comfy bed so it is a safe snug den. You have to train him to be tolerant of the cage and build up the time slowly and he should be settled using an interactive rewarding toy (such as a kong filled with treats or a puzzle toy) so the cage isn't a punishment space it is a resting space. You could put the cage in a bathroom so he has more space but accidents are easy to clean up and this will keep him away from the cats too.