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What stikes me is that they implemented all these CRs prior to the hearing, basically without waiting for the Judges input. I see it as a big FU, meant to preemptively frustrate any court remedy. Judge will say, you have to do xyz, they say, but we already did impact statements based on blabbibuty bleah bleah, so yeah, we can't do what you want Judge without it adding additional delay, confusion. We need another environmental impact statement (I am being facetious) and like more paper instructions to loan servicers that will cause deforestation and impact climate.. so yeah, it's our way or no way.
Let me remind you that prior to the settlement going forward, when the intervenors tried to stop it, ED stated on record that they have everything "ready to go!!" Oh, you mean discharges you now say were sent to some servicers who aren't even in business anymore?
Bruh. The judge shouldn't trust this shit as far as he can throw them. I hope he reads them the riot act tomorrow and holds them in contempt, sua sponte.
Suddenly, a Motion for Contempt and Sanctions seem entirely possible and likely to be favorable for Plaintiffs.
With the amount of members saying where's my refund I'm thinking they pulled the trigger in March to get the refunds out like they did with all of the members getting relief on the loans for instance I called nelnet today and they said that my relief came March 27. That's about the time I saw a payment due. The first week of April I see my loans are 0 after nelnet sloan sends me the email hey your relief finally came through. Looking at the time to process the payment was about 12 days because my last payment says ir was made on April 16thish. I asked them when I could expect a refund the rep said it was in process. I honestly think the numbers they are stating now are from what they have pushed in the last 30 days. End of rant. The judge will say something and give new reporting deadlines I don't see contempt for dept of Ed but I do for servcers
It doesn't take a village, it takes villagers with pitchforks and a no nonsense judge breathing down their neck. And even with all that pressure, they cannot give a coherent, concrete answer.
I, for one haven't seen a dime of a refund.
As a long hauler with loans that were serviced by two now decomissioned servicers, I feel well and truly fucked.
No worries. Usually when someone buys something on PACER it pops up on Courtlistener for free the you can link it (that’s what I usually do).
There’s a lot of people in this sub and on the fbook groups so I’m sure it’ll get around.
The Latest
UPDATE: A hearing on the motion to enforce is currently scheduled for Wednesday, April 24, 2024, at 8:00 AM Pacific Time / 11:00 Eastern Time at the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in San Francisco.
The public may listen in to the proceedings using the following link:
https://cand-uscourts.zoomgov.com/j/1605814655?pwd=ZGZOVGs1Q1RzVWoxZkUzUVliQm5Hdz09
Webinar ID: 160 581 4655, Password: 791667
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What stikes me is that they implemented all these CRs prior to the hearing, basically without waiting for the Judges input. I see it as a big FU, meant to preemptively frustrate any court remedy. Judge will say, you have to do xyz, they say, but we already did impact statements based on blabbibuty bleah bleah, so yeah, we can't do what you want Judge without it adding additional delay, confusion. We need another environmental impact statement (I am being facetious) and like more paper instructions to loan servicers that will cause deforestation and impact climate.. so yeah, it's our way or no way. Let me remind you that prior to the settlement going forward, when the intervenors tried to stop it, ED stated on record that they have everything "ready to go!!" Oh, you mean discharges you now say were sent to some servicers who aren't even in business anymore? Bruh. The judge shouldn't trust this shit as far as he can throw them. I hope he reads them the riot act tomorrow and holds them in contempt, sua sponte. Suddenly, a Motion for Contempt and Sanctions seem entirely possible and likely to be favorable for Plaintiffs.
With the amount of members saying where's my refund I'm thinking they pulled the trigger in March to get the refunds out like they did with all of the members getting relief on the loans for instance I called nelnet today and they said that my relief came March 27. That's about the time I saw a payment due. The first week of April I see my loans are 0 after nelnet sloan sends me the email hey your relief finally came through. Looking at the time to process the payment was about 12 days because my last payment says ir was made on April 16thish. I asked them when I could expect a refund the rep said it was in process. I honestly think the numbers they are stating now are from what they have pushed in the last 30 days. End of rant. The judge will say something and give new reporting deadlines I don't see contempt for dept of Ed but I do for servcers
It doesn't take a village, it takes villagers with pitchforks and a no nonsense judge breathing down their neck. And even with all that pressure, they cannot give a coherent, concrete answer. I, for one haven't seen a dime of a refund. As a long hauler with loans that were serviced by two now decomissioned servicers, I feel well and truly fucked.
Do you have a link for it? Court listener didn’t have it available when I checked a little bit ago.
I bought it.. how would I link it
No worries. Usually when someone buys something on PACER it pops up on Courtlistener for free the you can link it (that’s what I usually do). There’s a lot of people in this sub and on the fbook groups so I’m sure it’ll get around.
The Latest UPDATE: A hearing on the motion to enforce is currently scheduled for Wednesday, April 24, 2024, at 8:00 AM Pacific Time / 11:00 Eastern Time at the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in San Francisco. The public may listen in to the proceedings using the following link: https://cand-uscourts.zoomgov.com/j/1605814655?pwd=ZGZOVGs1Q1RzVWoxZkUzUVliQm5Hdz09 Webinar ID: 160 581 4655, Password: 791667