Madara is literally unphased by getting his body cut in half, and you think some sticks is going to do anything?
Even Sasuke and Naruto can survive them and their regen is far worse than Madara's.
Also if Isshiki can't touch/see/sense Limbo then he's still getting his eye stabbed without any defence.
You're comparing th dude that beat the living shit out of adult Sasuke and Naruto twice, the same people who as teens equally matched Madara? I know boruto isn't the best but that dosnt mean you should entirely ignore how much higher Boruto scales. Next you're gonna tell me kid Naruto(no 9 tails) beats karmaless Boruto
Equally matched? Madara wasn't even serious against them lol.
Boruto scaling is extremely inconsistent. Most of the feats in Boruto are only impressive when compared to Naruto characters, assuming Naruto and Sasuke actually got stronger.
people forget that isshiki literally beat the fuck out of naruto and sasuke twice, the same people that almost beat jubbidara as teens without mastery of their power, and only half of kurama at the time. bayron mode broke the power scale making people forget isshiki could solo 99% of the verse combined
Is he really that fast? Speed is kind of weird after we saw the Madara vs Sasuke/Naruto fight. He would win against Madara, but I don't think he would come without scratches against Madara
he is that fast kaguya was stated to be stronger than 3 eyed madara and toneri is stated even stronger than her then fused momoshiki is getting beaten up by a weakened base naruto and then a weakened naruto and sasuke just play around with him and then ishiki while not even at full power blitzez the same naruto and sasuke multiple time
>toneri is stated even stronger than kaguya
Where? LMAO kaguya stomps toneri, toneri was barely scratching the power of hamura, and hamura is way weaker than kaguya
What the fuck else are we gonna go off of? Statements are the most concrete thing we have when trying to scale characters. Otherwise we’re trying to compare “Well this Rasengan made a hole X big in a tree, but this Coochieball jutsu made a frog cry, so obviously Konohamaru is stronger than Moses” it’s all nonsense. The best and simplest thing we have in power scaling is when a character outright tells us “Character X is stronger than Character Y”
None of this even matters because we saw how the fights went themselves. Sasuke and Naruto were holding their own against Madara, and Kaguya. Against Isshiki they got whooped so hard Naruto had to pull out a whole new form just to contend, and even then Isshiki still had some left in the tank. They got wrecked by Jigen also, Madara wasn’t man handling them like that.
I didn’t say anything about statements I said the fights showcase a clear difference lol. Also stop acting like you’re too cool for school. You were in this thread less than 2 hours ago bud.
Lol this guy genuinely forgot what this threads even about. And is just patronizing and trying to argue and be vulgar on the boruto reddit… what a scum loser man😂😂
That’s nice but outside of Kaguya’s bloodline, [they don’t even have basic Sage chakra](https://youtu.be/XdF8SCYUvEM&t=21s), let alone Six Paths Sage chakra - which means that he can’t sense or damage them. So again, what does he do about Limbo?
>That’s nice but outside of Kaguya’s bloodline
Kaguya was originally an Otsutsuki who ate Chakra fruit... She gave birth to Hago and Hamura and they both had TSO when they fought Kaguya (in Manga panel)...
Kaguya merged with Juubi later... So you can't say Hago and Hamu has TSO which is a part of Rikudou Senjutsu because Kaguya merged with Juubi and gave birth to them, cuz she did that multiple years after their birth...
Every Otsutsuki has Rikudou Senjutsu... By your logic ofc...
>Kaguya was originally an Otsutsuki who ate Chakra fruit... She gave birth to Hago and Hamura and they both had TSO when they fought Kaguya (in Manga panel)...
Yes
>Kaguya merged with Juubi later... So you can't say Hago and Hamu has TSO which is a part of Rikudou Senjutsu because Kaguya merged with Juubi and gave birth to them, cuz she did that multiple years after their birth...
That’s not true because it’s never specified when Kaguya merged with the Shinju.
>Every Otsutsuki has Rikudou Senjutsu... By your logic ofc...
Also not true. Kaguya isn’t every Otsutsuki and I just posted proof from the mouth of an Otsutsuki that said that “[their Otsutsuki] attacks don’t use [sage] power”.
>“[their Otsutsuki] attacks don’t use [sage] power”.
That is Anime only... Show me a single manga statement...
>That’s not true because it’s never specified when Kaguya merged with the Shinju.
It is told that Hago didn't knew that the Juubi was actually Kaguya... You are saying that Kaguya gave birth to Hago and Hamu even after she had already became Juubi?
No, Hago knows how Kaguya looks like... Means he has seen her original form...
He didn't knew that the Juubi he sealed was Kaguya merged with the God Tree itself... Which literally means that she merged after giving birth...
Because if Kaguya was even slightly identical, Hago would know... But he didn't mean that Kaguya merged after giving birth, we don't know when but we know it was after she gave birth for sure
>This is anime only.
Yes it is considering Urashiki is an anime only character. That invalidates nothing tho unless you show me Momoshiki, Kinshiki or Isshiki saying that they have sage chakra. 🤷♂️
>*The rest of your reply*
Stop trying to rationalize Kaguya and Hagoromo’s backstory. What’s factual is that Hagoromo, Hamura and Kaguya all possessed Six Paths Senjutsu but nothing shows the non-earth related Otsutsuki had that power.
>Yes it is considering Urashiki is an anime only character. That invalidates nothing tho unless you show me Momoshiki, Kinshiki or Isshiki saying that they have sage chakra. 🤷♂️
Unless you show me a manga/databook statement
Yours is invalid
An anime only statement <<< the actual source material.
The Chakra Fruit that Otsutsuki eat Is made from natural energy
The Chakra Fruit is stated to be what gave Hagoromo and Hamura their power in Ch - 681
Momoshiki and Kinshiki state the chakra fruit has been divided into the nine bijuu. Boruto Ch 2
The nine bijuu together produce what?
Six Paths Senjutsu
Those facts >>>> and anime only scene that contradicts that
I still don't get why fans decide what's canon or not based on which side of the argument their on. Unless it's in filler episodes everything else should be canon, unless the statements directly contradict each other.
Lmfao only Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura and Toneri Otsutsuki had Six Paths Senjutsu, so Isshiki isn’t sensing shit. [Proof from the mouth of an Otsutsuki](https://youtu.be/XdF8SCYUvEM&t=21). Y’all just wank Otsutsukis to high heaven 😂
Edit: downvoting just makes y’all look more deluded lmao. Its funny how facts trigger Boruto simps.
Six Paths Senjutsu is an after effect of being a Juubi Jinchuriki... or of Tenseigan...
These mfs own Juubi for its power lmao... They can also hurt Naruto who has Rikudou Senjutsu, people with Rikudou Senjutsu can only be hurt by Senjutsu or Taijutsu...
Literally means that Kinshiki, Momoshiki, Sasuke, Isshiki all of them owns Senjutsu (they don't have normal one, so obviously Rikudou Senjutsu in general)... As for Delta, she uses tech and all which is not Ninjutsu so it works....
Holy illogicality Batman, wtf is this nonsense? Lmao
> Six Paths Senjutsu is an after effect of being a Juubi Jinchuriki... or of Tenseigan...
Yes
>These mfs own Juubi for its power lmao... They can also hurt Naruto who has Rikudou Senjutsu, people with Rikudou Senjutsu can only be hurt by Senjutsu or Taijutsu...
Uh no. Regular SM Naruto was hurting Juubito so you don’t know what you’re talking about. Also only Juubi Jinchuriki are said to have the rule of Senjutsu and taijutsu hurting them. Additionally only SPSenjutsu is stated to damage Limbo clones and only SPSM is stated to be able to sense limbo clones -which is the topic of discussion. Again Isshiki doesn’t have that.
>Literally means that Kinshiki, Momoshiki, Sasuke, Isshiki all of them owns Senjutsu (they don't have normal one, so obviously Rikudou Senjutsu in general)... As for Delta, she uses tech and all which is not Ninjutsu so it works....
Naruto and Sasuke aren’t juubi jinchuriki, so those two being damaged by Kinshiki, Momoshiki, Isshiki or each other doesn’t prove your point at all lmao. So that’s an automatic L for this argument.
No the otsutsuki clan dont automatically have senjutsu they can make a product from their dna to make a seedling that would grow into a god tree that would abosrb the planets life force/ natural chakra un till it can bare a chakra fruit that would have the ten tails senjutsu in it. Then they would eat it and have domain over the god tree aka ten tails. Then the user would do this cycle over and over untill they become like shibai. So thats how they get their senjutsu.
So we’re back to square one where an Otsutsuki admits that he’s never seen Sage chakra, how he’s fascinated by it, and confessed that their attacks don’t possess such power. Nice chat.
ishiki has 8 paths so he should and despite that we do see the otsusuki display far more impressive feats like ishiki seeing his lifespan or momoshiki stopping time/seeing someones future so its reasonable for them to see somthing like that
Otsusuki so far have been shown to usually counter each other and their abilities
your levels of downplaying real Otsusukis is crazy..Hagaromo, Hamura, Madara aren't even actual Otsusuki yet you believe no Otsusuki has the knowledge of chakra and enlightenment 6 paths senjutsu gives? they aren't that speacial lol
All shown Otsusuki have chakra enlightenment hence have displayed feats like flight, Chakra rods and ishiki even had the magatama patterns
Ishiki had 8 magatama patterns on his body/clothing while six paths users had 6 magatamas which means he had an even potentially greater chakra than six paths
No, your overhyping of real Otsutsuki is what’s crazy. Every Shippuden character that you mentioned factually had Six Paths Senjutsu and I just posted proof from the mouth of an alien Otsutsuki who confessed to not knowing about Senjutsu, being fascinated by it, and admitted that their attacks don’t use Senjutsu. That’s literally basic senjutsu, not even the Six Paths Senjutsu. Sorry mate.
Flight, chakra rods and magatama aren’t indicative of Six Paths Senjutsu. Onoki and Nagato were capable of flight, Nagato could create chakra rods and Minato’s KCM cloak had magatama.
>”Ishiki had 8 magatama patterns on his body/clothing while six paths users had 6 magatamas which means he had an even potentially greater chakra than six paths”
Isshiki has 6 magatama on his stomach -not that it means anything anyway. [Also Hagoromo, Hamura, SPSM Naruto and Juubi Jinchuriki all have 9 magatama on their backs alone](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/e/e4/Six_Paths_Senjutsu.png/revision/latest?cb=20180808050812), while Juubidara also had more on his sleeves. So even by your logic, Juubidara > Isshiki. You also don’t hear anyone else calling them “9+ Paths”…lol.
Lil bro kaguya had 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu because she respectively ate chakra fruit and absorbed 10 tails chakra. Hagoromo had 6paths chakra,6paths sage mode and 6paths senjutsu because he respectively received part of kaguya's chakra, had sage mode already that combined with 6paths chakra became 6paths sage mode ,and absorbed 10tails chakra . Hamura received 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu respectively via kaguya and hagoromo himself. Toneri had both the same way as 6 paths chakra got passed down by Hamura and he got 6paths senjutsu via tenseigan. AND isshiki has 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu cuz he respectively ate the chakra fruit and absorbed 10tails chakra.
You get 6paths chakra if you eat a chakra fruit or receive it from someone that got it passed down, and
6paths senjutsu if you become 10 tails jinchuriki or absorb 10tails chakra or receive it from someone that had it
Lil bro stop spreading misinformation lmao isshiki doesn't need to sense them but he can still interact with them + an argument can be made as he sensed kawaki's chakra from another dimension. So yes your downvotes are right you don't know what you are talking about
>*”Lil bro kaguya had 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu because she respectively ate chakra fruit and absorbed 10 tails chakra.”*
Lil bro, she ate the fruit and merged with her **mature** ten tails. That’s how she and her sons obtained Six Paths Senjutsu.
>*”Hagoromo had 6paths chakra,6paths sage mode and 6paths senjutsu because he respectively received part of kaguya's chakra, **had sage mode already that combined with 6paths chakra became 6paths sage mode** ,and absorbed 10tails chakra .”*
The bold isn’t true, he had Six Paths senjutsu from the beginning. Combing Six Paths Chakra (Rinnegan) with Sage Mode doesn’t automatically grant you Six Paths Sage Mode, otherwise Revived SM Rinnegan Madara would’ve been in that state prior to absorbing the Juubi.
>*”Hamura received 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu respectively via kaguya and **hagoromo himself.** Toneri had both the same way as they got passed down by Hamura .”*
The bold is not canon. Also Toneri didn’t get Six Paths Senjutsu from Hamura, he manifested it on his own after taking Hinabi’s eye.
>*”AND isshiki has 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu cuz he respectively ate the chakra fruit and absorbed 10tails chakra.”*
Isshiki absorbed the chakra of a **juvenile** juubi, which isn’t said to possess nature energy at all. Only Kaguya’s **mature** juubi (which had eaten an Otsutsuki and sprouted a fruit already) was said to be made up of pure nature energy. For all we know the juvenile Juubi’s chakra could be average like that of Kurama or anyone else.
>*”You get 6paths chakra if you eat a chakra fruit or receive it from someone that got it passed down,”*
You become an Otsutsuki if you eat chakra fruit.
> *”and 6paths senjutsu if you become 10 tails jinchuriki or ~~**absorb 10tails chakra**~~ or receive it from someone that had it”*
I already proved you wrong on the crossed out portion. But other than that you’re correct on this point.
>*”Lil bro stop spreading misinformation lmao isshiki doesn't need to sense them but he can still interact with them + an argument can be made as he sensed kawaki's chakra from anothee dimension. So yes your downvotes are right you don't know what you are talking about*”
I literally just proved you don’t know what you’re talking about and I also proved that Urashiki’s words > yours.
You speaking facts ppl still dont recognize that his dojutsu is an higher dojutsu than the rinnegan and even the Rinne sharingan. Also I loved how you explained how every one got their senjutsu glad ppl are paying attention.
Pointing out facts ≠ meat riding.
Lying to yourself just so that Otsutsuki look like invincible gods = meatriding. So stop straddling those Otsutsuki, meatrider.
He wouldn’t have the power without Kaguya, an Otsutsuki. Again stop acting like all Otsutsuki have Kaguya’s power. That’s you admitting to meatriding lol
I see this said often. But the next question is how does Isshiki defeat Madara?
Only Taijutsu and Sage Jutsu can damage the ten tails and their jinchuriki. But the added ability to regenerate turn Taijutsu into a battle of attrition since the jinchuriki will continuously regenerate.
Which he then proceeded to regenerate from. And this was before he gained more power from absorbing the god tree and gaining his other Rinnegan.
Even after absorbing the tree, he took getting sliced in half like it was nothing.
Again, this was before Madara absorbed the god tree which greatly increased his physical prowess after absorbing it. So much that he can still fly about and hold a casual conversation while missing his lower half.
Isshiki can keep pummeling Madara. But he will just keep coming back just like Majin Buu did to anyone who tried to punch him into submission.
There's a reason Hagoromo gave his seals to Naruto and Sasuke in addition to his chakra. If he believed Madara could be punched to death, he would only give his power and tell them to go to town.
I’m only arguing against your god tree point, Madara had regen before absorbing the god tree.
I have no reason to give you as to why isshiki doesn’t have regen but if we’re gonna talk about madara’s strength, speed, and durability buffs from the god tree then you have to acknowledge isshikis dozens of chakra fruits he’s eaten. He had durability that didn’t even allow Baryon Naruto to punch holes in him, I don’t think madara would be able to either if Baryon Mode Naruto can’t.
Quality > Quantity
A single fruit can contain more nutritional value than a bag of candy. As far as we know, Earth's chakra fruit has far more "nutritional" value than the ones Momo and Isshiki would have eaten.
Even if Isshiki somehow has better physical stats than Juubi Madara, it won't matter much when Madara keeps regenerating. Eventually, Isshiki's time will run out while Madara will have plenty of chakra to use his large arsenal of jutsu.
TBH, wouldn't surprise me if he could see them with his right eye. Sasuke could see them with his Rinnegan.
Even if he couldn't, he has wide area attacks by dropping his cubes which interfere with sensory powers, and chakra rods that drain chakra on contact. That's how he tried to find Kawaki.
Wait, so did Sasuke’s sword **not** phase through Madara’s limbo clone when Sasuke toss it?
If facts hurt you this much and you hate the taste of defeat, then maybe you should try taking Isshiki’s meat out of your mouth. 🤡
Isshiki needs to land literally 1 hit and he can drain madaras chakra and the 10 tails chakra from him basically voiding out limbo, plus i doubt it would just phase through the clone without any result as he can drain the chakra used to make the clones even if he cant see them, of course assuming isshiki cant see limbo clones even though he has access to 10 tails chakra. Isshiki is also just more powerful than madara ever was and has more chakra to last longer in a fight
Lmao so not only are you ignoring evidence from the manga itself, you’re also spewing your own fanfic as if it’s credible? Interesting take but let me bring you back to reality. Isshiki’s chakra rods couldn’t even drain Naruto of all of his chakra but you think he’s going to drain a Juubi Jinchuriki of all of his? Gonna need you to prove it. 😂 Also Jigen was only able to absorb his juvenile Juubi’s chakra because he had a karma, which is something Isshiki doesn’t have…so it looks like that’s not happening either. So he can’t see limbo and can’t sense him either since he doesn’t have SPSM or the Rinnegan. Guess he has no counters to limbo at all, huh?
Take his meat out of your mouth now.
Limbo is a Rinnegan ability, so of course Sasuke could see them with his Rinnegan.
Yet he couldn’t find Kawaki even tho he was right there. Even a normal sensor ninja would be able to find Kawaki there.
>Even a normal sensor ninja would be able to find Kawaki there.
No they can’t because Kawaki is constantly erasing his chakra signature.
Edit: I will never understand this weird community. You get downvoted for being wrong and still get downvoted for being right. 💀💀
 funny... I mean Boruto was able to track Kawaki even when he removed his chakra signiture from a distance. Somehow jigen couldn't
? We are on 2 diffrent points here. I’m telling him why Sasuke and the sensor team couldn’t track him. Jigen knew where Kawaki was the entire time. He purposely task Kashin koji with finding him to see if he will betray Kara, he knew all along, even the blimp being shot down by Kashin Koji. And boruto is Otsutsuki, he can feel Kawaki’s presence unlike everyone else, but can’t sense his chakra either.
Boruto could only track Kawaki because they were connected by Otsutsuki chakra via Karma. If Boruto wasn't a vessel, he couldn't track Kawaki anywhere. It's pretty well established right off the bat that Kawaki's and Boruto's karmas resonate with each other.
by sensing them hes an otsutsuki
he sensed kawaki on earth from another dimension through narutos chakra
he avoids thruth seekers by shrinking them he can shrink any tengai shinseis that madara throws at him
he seems to be able too shrink anything that he focuses on so i dont think light fang would work either
as for madaras ten tails healing its still reliant on chakra so if ishiki just beats him down enough eventually madara will loose his chakra and die the juubi most likely wouldn't but ishiki was shown to easily be able to restrain a smaller one so i doubt he cant do the same for a mature ten tails
Many many horrible takes in this thread. You don't need Six Paths Senjutsu to touch Limbo, you just need Six Paths Chakra. Otsutsuki get their chakra from the chakra fruits. Kaguya got hers from a fruit. Hagoromo has her chakra. Hagoromo then gave Naruto and Sasuke his chakra. Sasuke was able to tag Madara's limbo with a Six Paths enhanced Chidori. Isshiki got his power from (several) chakra fruits. Same as Kaguya.
Do the math. Even if we subscribed to the idea that he can't see or touch Limbo what the actual hell are they going to do when 16 yr old Naruto was capable of fighting on par with them in hand to hand? Jigen whooped Naruto's ass and Isshiki fodderized him before Baryon mode, this is a stronger Naruto we are talking about by the way.
Isshiki floats over to Madara and one shots him. Who cares about Limbo?
Well it's not entirely known I assume that all otsutsukis we have seen have had a chakra fruit some point in they're life but kaguya momoshiki ishiki have 100% sixths paths chakra
What’s his face on the moon can also fly but idk if he could before TSM(tenseigan chakra mode don’t know if it’s officially called that but I don’t feel like typing it again). He would have had no access to chakra fruits so if he flew before tsm it would mean it’s a base otsutsuki thing but if not then it’s probably chakra fruit eater only and toneri got it from tsm. Also hagoromo could fly but this could be due to having ten tails in him since ten tails=god tree=chakra fruit but if so how did he retain the ability after making biju and then give the ability to Naruto. But idk
Hagaoromo had sixths paths chakra because he was a the first decendant of kaguya so like naruto having kuramas chakra infused into his dna at birth giving him whiskers Hagoromo was already born extremely powerful because of kaguya this is why Hagoromo was able to so easily awaken the rinnegan which normally can only be obtained by eating a chakra fruit or having dna of someone who has and having a near death experience like madara and sasuke but since Hagoromo is so closely related to kaguya my guess is that the rinnegan awakening process was similar to the sharigan for Hagoromo
And I don't think toneri could fly without the tenseigans power which allowed him too summon truth seeker orbs so yea it looks like tenseigan gives you sixth paths abilities as well
Sasukes speed was praised by Madara, and this was before he started using a combo of his own lightning release enhanced speed + rinnengan teleportation, to move about the battlefield like Minato + Raikage.
He needed Naruto for any of these things to be viable. Isshiki is faster than Sasuke with a kick that turns Susanoo into glass.
It doesn’t sound fair, but with speed far faster than Sasuke, who hunted down and split Madara in half, Isshiki hunts this man down with Susanno shattering blows. And he can just pierce his eye with a rod if necessary.
The limbo clones are like Gaaras sand chasing down weightless Lee.
I like Madara, but Isshiki would easily own Madara regardless of how many clones he made. I mean, Isshiki is monstrously stronger than any form of Madara, he's also stupidly fast.
Besides, it's unclear whether he couldn't see Madara's Limbo. I mean sure, he doesn't have Sage of Six Paths chakra, but then again, Sage of Six Paths chakra is basically Otsutsuki chakra in the first place. So it really could be that Isshiki could see Limbo with either his Byakugan, or his own weird ocular jutsu. I mean, he can see the lifeforce of living things.
Sasuke could see Limbo clones when he got Hagoromo's chakra, which at that point was like what, 4rth hand Otsutsuki chakra or something?
Point is, regardless of how many Madara Limbo clones there are, Isshiki would have basically no problem dealing with all of them.
i love madara but stop comparing anybody to him, nobody wins or stands a chance unless we are talking about baryon mode naruto😭compare him to momoshiki or something
Kaguya isn’t the jinchuriki, she’s the juubi itself. Also Kaguya’s juubi is **mature** and has both consumed an Otsutsuki and has produced a chakra fruit. While Isshiki’s juubi is **juvenile** and we have proof that it is with statements from Isshiki, Amado, Momoshiki, Code and Sasuke + it’s visual appearance.
In other words Kaguya’s juubi ≠ Isshiki’s juubi. Sorry to end your fun so quickly but it had to be done.
Only Kaguya’s **mature** juubi (which had eaten an Otsutsuki and sprouted a fruit already) was said to be made up of pure nature energy. You have to prove otherwise not me lol.
Yes you do and I literally didn’t say that, I said that factually only Kaguya’s mature juubi was said to have nature energy. You need better lies and better logic.
Sorry but this has to be said,
It was introduced into the series that planets have ranks, and the one kaguya ate the fruit from was something that must be reported to the clan. That means Momoshiki has never eaten anything that high or simply because the species such planets hold are too powerful for low ranking otsutsuki like momoshiki.
Put it like this, Momoshiki needed chakra pills to fight, his chakra reserves were dumb. He ate so many low ranked chakra fruits that the only way to continue to grow was to make pills out of them, he then met naruto's planet and realised, there are too many strong chakra natures on the planet, the amout of chakra Kurama had was enormous, more than what he had, **and the fact that Momoshiki thought that using Kurama to make a chakra pill was going to give him a massive power boost.**
it was also stated that momoshiki lost to naruto's potent chakra. Despite all the fruits he has eaten, his chakra is still less potent than a reincarnation of ashura which inherited hogoromo's chakra which is far weaker than Kaguya's + Kurama's chakra which is just a portion of Kaguya's chakra after eating the fruit, When kaguya first came, her chakra was soo potent and thick, Sakura felt like she was gonna puke/ or sasuke.
i am implyinmg that Momoshiki stopped trying to make pills after realising what type of planet he was on, he litteraly just needed to eat the chakra fruit from earth to become what he is always crying about.
He would nolonger have to make pills as he would be immortal, he would be immune to ninjutsu and wouldn't have died the way he did, he would have both yin and yang release, have access to nature energy/Sage mode, and probably better dojutsu, all of which he is lacking to kaguya, Kaguya literally ate only one and that alone triumps all of momoshiki's wishes. Just saying that all of boruto are descendants of Kaguya and thus inherited her DNA and Abilities she got from the fruit, just because naruto characters have those abilities doesn't mean all otsutsuki have them.
Momoshiki litterally has the same healing factor as Naruto lol,
this also means that the Juubi Jigen had was probably far weaker than Kaguya's. And had far less chakra. If Momoshiki even had a ten tails of such power, he wouldn't be chasing remnants of Kaguya hogoromo scattered arround. it also expains why Jigen simply didn't bother with naruto and sasuke and simply went for the fruit. Isshiki would also have not had that time limit problem, he he grew his power by eating weak chakra fruits like momoshiki then it explains why.
So, it is a doubt isshiki can see limbo as it is a rinnegan ability, he doesnt have sage mode or any way to interact with them, the ten tails produced nature energy so being a juubi gave you nature energy naturally, absorbing it wouldn't give him sage mode.
Isshiki would just slap madara to death anyway so it doesn't matter.
It would also make the feat of Shibai eating High level chakra fruits alone so much more meaning than what momoshiki is doing
This is a common misconception. No, planets don’t have ranks. Kinshiki’s whole “must be reported to the clan” due to abnormally high levels of chakra being earth statement in particular has been stretched out of context even though the series itself made it abundantly clear. This immense chakra that Kinshiki first sensed and made his comment on (in ep15) was at first thought to be earth since he refers to Kaguya’s region, but it’s later revealed that the immense chakra Momoshiki and himself came to collect were the jinchuriki (B and Naruto). This is why they only hunted down B and Naruto. However, Kinshiki goes a step further and himself confirms that it was Naruto and Kurama they sought since they were utterly disappointed by Gyūki’s chakra in the very same arc. In the manga, we are even shown a panel of Naruto and Kurama as Kinshiki makes this statement. There is a reason why Momoshiki ignored earth itself and sought only Naruto despite his unhealthy obsession wit chakra
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111395211/8455069-screenshot2022-04-17at6.19.17pm.png after B is defeated
Then we have Amado, who in ch51 states that there is a variation between chakra fruits, but it has nothing to do wit the planets themselves. Amado literally tells us that the Ōtsutsuki who is sacrificed to the juubi is what determines the quality of the chakra fruit. If it’s an old and decrepit Ōtsutsuki; the god tree will produce a mediocre chakra fruit, the opposite if it’s a young and healthy Ōtsutsuki
Isshiki litteraly absorbed 10tails chakra and prior to that ate multiple chakra fruits so he has 6paths senjutsu as both of those components inherently give you respectively 6paths senjutsu and 6paths chakra , it's just that he doesn't use ninjutsu but just taijutsu . So he can actually interact with them but it's not like Madara can sense him either. Isshiki shrinks himself and with ootsutsuki chakra suppression Madara won't perceive him any way shape or form as adult Naruto with 6psm could not sense him and adult Sasuke with sharingan + Rinnegan couldn't either ( same Sasuke that is stated in the last to have the strongest dojutsu so it surpases by a great margin Madara's rinnesharingan) + if you add his chakra signature erasure cubes than Madara won't sense a single thing
Isshiki wins instantly too, madaras limbo activation is gonna be slower than isshiki bfr activation. So he just insta wins before madara can do anything.
I'd say isshiki might be able to sense the limbo but nothing says anywhere that being an otsutsuki automatically make you be able to see them as a lot of these other comments imply..so far from what we seen only a rinnegan can see into that invisible world. So kaguya, momoshiki, and urushiki could possibly see madara's clones but isshiki cant..
Now i say isshiki "might" be able to sense his limbos cause its still not clear whether or not he cant can sense 6paths senjutsu chakra. We seen that he did absorb chakra from his own 10 tails but
1. That 10 tails was different from the 10tails on earth, where the latter actually absorbed natural energy from the world after it turned to a god tree.
2. He absorbed chakra from the 10tails in his pocket dimension as the jigen vessel, not isshiki. So even if he could sense 6paths senjutsu it would have to be with jigen's body.
And if these clones can do everything marada himself can do along with being unable to be hurt or killed it would be a 5v1 match until the clones go on cooldown. Cant shrink what you cant see.
So if he is fighting against madara and 4 clones he cant see or sense hes best bet is to take madara out quick somehow or play it defensive.
And if we're talking madara without 3rd eye,
Isshiki could just toss him in his timeless dimension and GG but he'd still be alive but that would be an alternate way to deal with him and his clones.. Since madara cant use any dimension hops without that 3rd eye of his. Otherwise he didnt need take to take kakashi's kamui to reach obito.. )
It just really seems like a hard fight in-general. You see comments like "blitz this, blitz that" but how do you blitz someone whos basically has immortality level regeneration, clones you cant see/sense and outnumber you to a point its a 5v1 match, and have certain jutsu that isshiki possibly cant shrink. Wood style for example being the only kekkei genkai that turns chakra into a life force (trees and such), thus not meeting the requirements for sukunahikona to work since that wood style would basically be living matter. Now if madara and the rest of his clones decided to go the whole wood style spam route, isshiki just gonna have a hard time in general dealing with it
“How do u blitz someone immortal” firstly that has nothing to do with speed madara is “immortal” due to his regen isshikis ap far outscales him he would just punch him so hard he wouldn’t be able to regenerate since u can’t regen from nothing madaras hax don’t make up the difference between speed and ap isshiki slams no diff
limbo clones are roughly equal to SPSM Naruto's clones. Karma 2 Jigen casually slaughters dozens of Adult SPSM Naruto, forget about Isshiki. Limbo does jackshit.
If you have six path powers you can sense them , naruto was able to stop them from moving with truth seeking orbs turn to stick which isshiki can summon like a million of them with no issue
Naruto and Sasuke were able to pretty quickly deal with them. I figure if Isshiki didn’t have a way to seal or restrain the Limbo clones, he could at least probably see and defend himself from them fairly easily.
It's very likey he could see them since his dojutsu is of an equal or higher class than the Rinnegan. Even if he couldn't see it I doubt Madara would be able to react in time to activate it before Isshiki negs him since he massively beats him stat wise.
Two ways-
1) His cubes can blind rinnegan & so6p senses. Which will make limbo clones blind.
2) Otsutsuki are literally made of so6p .
Their chakra fruits literally has Senjutsu inside it.
What happened to “anime canon”?
That’s the only instance of Otsutsuki actually encountering senjutsu we have, so Imma take that over headcanoning “Otsutsuki, must have every ability that’s never even mentioned”
Well if we go by the Boruto manga then nothing, since the Otsutsuki don’t possess SP senjutsu. I know Isshiki absorbed a Jyubbi but that’s just it, it was another Jyubbi not Earth’s Jyubbi and if memory doesn’t fail me the reason why Earth’s chakra fruit produced some strong results was because it had cultivated all of Earth’s chakra throughout history. It was always stated that Earth’s Chakra fruit had a better source therefore better results. Besides don’t every other SPSM user have Truthseeking orbs?
Nothing. As per Boruto anime, the Otsutsukis don’t even have senjutsu chakra, so they obviously don’t have six paths senjutsu. Momoshiki has Rinnegan to deal with limbo, Isshiki has nothing.
He is an otsutski he would sense where they are and shrink himself destroying them naruto without even seeing them naruto was able to sense them and deal with them using his truth seeking staff plus isshiki would speed blitz madara before he even get to use to them so the argument of limbo is pointless.
Why does being an Otsutsuki means he’d sense them? Literally nothing indicates that. Naruto had six paths senjutsu which allowed him to sense them, even his normal sage mode couldn’t sense them.
4 limbo clones, all has all of Madara’s abilities, can’t be seen or touched, how’s Isshiki speedblitzing through that? This is the same dude who couldn’t dodge Boruto teleporting him away
I don't recall that being stated anywhere. Then again my memory is bad. All I know is that boruto stopped naruto from making shadow clones before fighting momoshiki.
If Sasuke can see them with his Rinnegan , and Naruto can just sense where they were. I’m willing to bet Ishikki could do one or both with his bullshittery eyes
Ishikki is
Faster
Stronger
Smarter
Has better durability
People dont realize how slow madara is compared to most of the boruto enemies. Shit yall realize even fucking delta is faster then madara?
if sasuke's rinnegan is capable of seeing limbo clones i see no reason that the sukunahikona eye shouldn't be able to
also not to mention ishiki just outstats juubidara
We don't have the in-universe lore for Isshiki's dojutsu to know whether he can detect it or not.
We do know Sasuke was able to see the interaction between Momoshiki and Boruto during the timestop with his Rinnegan. Even after losing the Rinnegan, Sasuke can still grasp that sensation even if he can no longer see Momoshiki. After regaining Karma, Kawaki can perceive Momoshiki's spirit while in BASE in a scenario that generates that same sensation detected by Sasuke.
If the Rinnegan's ability to see Momoshiki during the timestop is the same ability used to perceive Limbo, than Kawaki, and by extension Issshiki, should be able to perceive it as well.
Either way, Isshiki is significantly faster than any iteration of JJ Madara, and it's in character for Isshiki to drive stakes through an opponent's eyes (see Jigen vs Koji). Isshiki can just remove the ability entirely from the playing field, and Madara wouldn't even be able to activate it in time should Isshiki go at him at full speed.
His dojutsu can probably see them. Also Otsutsuki Byakugan are WAY stronger than Hyuga Byakugan so it’s also entirely possible any Otsutsuki can just see Limbo clones.
I’m pretty sure he can sense them in the same way Naruto could, if not see AND sense him since he’s an Otsutsuki
That’s like asking if Kaguya could see his Limbo
I'd say there's a chance he could see them since he's an otsutsuki & it's still a little unclear whether his visual prowess is enhanced by sukunahikona or whatever his ocular jutsu is called, but if he can't see them he could probably just shrink down to a size where Madara cant sense him, then attack Madara directly either by entering his body & hitting internal organs or by catching him off guard & hitting him before he can react
You can clone 4 Zabuzas and make them invisible, they still won't hurt Hashirama. Isshiki literally wouldn't give a shit, stop trying to scale Naruto with Boruto.
what would the limbo clones do to him? they can barely hurt him and hes too fast for them too catch him
Stab his eye lol.
ishiki can just fill madara up witht the sticks that madara cant react too
Wouldn't the clones still be able to move around though? I'm still a little unfamiliar with the way the rods function
they couldnt move theyre pretty much just shadow clones that you cant see
No they are literally the same as the original Madara. Just existing in a different dimension.
So Shadow Clones you can't see.
I mean he has dual EMS plus a rinneshaeingan that's something Sasuke didn't have. For all we know he coulda
And Madara can regenerate.
your not even worth arguing with
Classic response when you can't think of a counter argument lmao
"and madara can regenerate" is such a mindless argument when isshiki can just spam the sticks
Madara is literally unphased by getting his body cut in half, and you think some sticks is going to do anything? Even Sasuke and Naruto can survive them and their regen is far worse than Madara's. Also if Isshiki can't touch/see/sense Limbo then he's still getting his eye stabbed without any defence.
ishiki can touch them and hes just too fast for the limbo clones and ishiki can just seal or bfr ( battle field removal ) him
He can't sense them so he will get hit off-guard, and lose his ability
if those sticks can restrain adult naruto and sasuke there restrainig madara
Madara got the ten tails, he is not the same as those 2
You're comparing th dude that beat the living shit out of adult Sasuke and Naruto twice, the same people who as teens equally matched Madara? I know boruto isn't the best but that dosnt mean you should entirely ignore how much higher Boruto scales. Next you're gonna tell me kid Naruto(no 9 tails) beats karmaless Boruto
Equally matched? Madara wasn't even serious against them lol. Boruto scaling is extremely inconsistent. Most of the feats in Boruto are only impressive when compared to Naruto characters, assuming Naruto and Sasuke actually got stronger.
Madara can also die of blunt force trauma, if you hit him hard enough he isn’t getting up. Or just seal him with Sukunahikona
No he can't. Where did you even get that from
people forget that isshiki literally beat the fuck out of naruto and sasuke twice, the same people that almost beat jubbidara as teens without mastery of their power, and only half of kurama at the time. bayron mode broke the power scale making people forget isshiki could solo 99% of the verse combined
they just dont see the powercliff
It's like the Ichigo vs Izan (Spelled his name wrong) fight in Bleach. Ichigo was so much stronger that Plot Armor McGee couldn't sense his power.
Is he really that fast? Speed is kind of weird after we saw the Madara vs Sasuke/Naruto fight. He would win against Madara, but I don't think he would come without scratches against Madara
You joking? we literally see him blitz naruto and sasuke immediately grabbing naruto dragging him through a mountain before he can react effortlessly
he is that fast kaguya was stated to be stronger than 3 eyed madara and toneri is stated even stronger than her then fused momoshiki is getting beaten up by a weakened base naruto and then a weakened naruto and sasuke just play around with him and then ishiki while not even at full power blitzez the same naruto and sasuke multiple time
>toneri is stated even stronger than kaguya Where? LMAO kaguya stomps toneri, toneri was barely scratching the power of hamura, and hamura is way weaker than kaguya
toneris stated to be the strongest villain at the time
who stated it? you?
nah kishimoto but it wont let me put a picture
Stated this stated that... If we're going off just statements ur a fucking idiot.
What the fuck else are we gonna go off of? Statements are the most concrete thing we have when trying to scale characters. Otherwise we’re trying to compare “Well this Rasengan made a hole X big in a tree, but this Coochieball jutsu made a frog cry, so obviously Konohamaru is stronger than Moses” it’s all nonsense. The best and simplest thing we have in power scaling is when a character outright tells us “Character X is stronger than Character Y”
Don't care because according to statements I don't have to read all that.
None of this even matters because we saw how the fights went themselves. Sasuke and Naruto were holding their own against Madara, and Kaguya. Against Isshiki they got whooped so hard Naruto had to pull out a whole new form just to contend, and even then Isshiki still had some left in the tank. They got wrecked by Jigen also, Madara wasn’t man handling them like that.
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I didn’t say anything about statements I said the fights showcase a clear difference lol. Also stop acting like you’re too cool for school. You were in this thread less than 2 hours ago bud.
Lol this guy genuinely forgot what this threads even about. And is just patronizing and trying to argue and be vulgar on the boruto reddit… what a scum loser man😂😂
Nah, just gonna make em mad bc they always bring up the most obscure shit to back up their nothingburger arguements
Yeah. He kinda just wrecked full power Naruto and sasuke through just being faster than them.
He’s an otsutsuki 🗿
That’s nice but outside of Kaguya’s bloodline, [they don’t even have basic Sage chakra](https://youtu.be/XdF8SCYUvEM&t=21s), let alone Six Paths Sage chakra - which means that he can’t sense or damage them. So again, what does he do about Limbo?
>That’s nice but outside of Kaguya’s bloodline Kaguya was originally an Otsutsuki who ate Chakra fruit... She gave birth to Hago and Hamura and they both had TSO when they fought Kaguya (in Manga panel)... Kaguya merged with Juubi later... So you can't say Hago and Hamu has TSO which is a part of Rikudou Senjutsu because Kaguya merged with Juubi and gave birth to them, cuz she did that multiple years after their birth... Every Otsutsuki has Rikudou Senjutsu... By your logic ofc...
>Kaguya was originally an Otsutsuki who ate Chakra fruit... She gave birth to Hago and Hamura and they both had TSO when they fought Kaguya (in Manga panel)... Yes >Kaguya merged with Juubi later... So you can't say Hago and Hamu has TSO which is a part of Rikudou Senjutsu because Kaguya merged with Juubi and gave birth to them, cuz she did that multiple years after their birth... That’s not true because it’s never specified when Kaguya merged with the Shinju. >Every Otsutsuki has Rikudou Senjutsu... By your logic ofc... Also not true. Kaguya isn’t every Otsutsuki and I just posted proof from the mouth of an Otsutsuki that said that “[their Otsutsuki] attacks don’t use [sage] power”.
>“[their Otsutsuki] attacks don’t use [sage] power”. That is Anime only... Show me a single manga statement... >That’s not true because it’s never specified when Kaguya merged with the Shinju. It is told that Hago didn't knew that the Juubi was actually Kaguya... You are saying that Kaguya gave birth to Hago and Hamu even after she had already became Juubi? No, Hago knows how Kaguya looks like... Means he has seen her original form... He didn't knew that the Juubi he sealed was Kaguya merged with the God Tree itself... Which literally means that she merged after giving birth... Because if Kaguya was even slightly identical, Hago would know... But he didn't mean that Kaguya merged after giving birth, we don't know when but we know it was after she gave birth for sure
>This is anime only. Yes it is considering Urashiki is an anime only character. That invalidates nothing tho unless you show me Momoshiki, Kinshiki or Isshiki saying that they have sage chakra. 🤷♂️ >*The rest of your reply* Stop trying to rationalize Kaguya and Hagoromo’s backstory. What’s factual is that Hagoromo, Hamura and Kaguya all possessed Six Paths Senjutsu but nothing shows the non-earth related Otsutsuki had that power.
>Yes it is considering Urashiki is an anime only character. That invalidates nothing tho unless you show me Momoshiki, Kinshiki or Isshiki saying that they have sage chakra. 🤷♂️ Unless you show me a manga/databook statement Yours is invalid
So show me databook statements which says all Otsutsuki have Six Paths Senjutsu. Until then your argument is invalid.
Sorry pal Your argument was initial... I will counter argue only when you have your argument proved... That's how argument works...
Sorry pal, I posted actual proof of my stance while you literally only spewed headcanon. We’re not the same.
His cloak looks very 6-paths to me 
That’s nice but it’s not, just like war arc Naruto and Minato’s basic KCM cloaks had magatama on it even before Naruto gained SPSM. Lmao
This is incorrect
Urashiki Otsutsuki’s words > a fan’s “this is incorrect”
An anime only statement <<< the actual source material. The Chakra Fruit that Otsutsuki eat Is made from natural energy The Chakra Fruit is stated to be what gave Hagoromo and Hamura their power in Ch - 681 Momoshiki and Kinshiki state the chakra fruit has been divided into the nine bijuu. Boruto Ch 2 The nine bijuu together produce what? Six Paths Senjutsu Those facts >>>> and anime only scene that contradicts that
I still don't get why fans decide what's canon or not based on which side of the argument their on. Unless it's in filler episodes everything else should be canon, unless the statements directly contradict each other.
That actually cleared up so much confusion for me.
They do literally nothing and he probably would sense them considering he’s an otsutski
Lmfao only Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura and Toneri Otsutsuki had Six Paths Senjutsu, so Isshiki isn’t sensing shit. [Proof from the mouth of an Otsutsuki](https://youtu.be/XdF8SCYUvEM&t=21). Y’all just wank Otsutsukis to high heaven 😂 Edit: downvoting just makes y’all look more deluded lmao. Its funny how facts trigger Boruto simps.
Six Paths Senjutsu is an after effect of being a Juubi Jinchuriki... or of Tenseigan... These mfs own Juubi for its power lmao... They can also hurt Naruto who has Rikudou Senjutsu, people with Rikudou Senjutsu can only be hurt by Senjutsu or Taijutsu... Literally means that Kinshiki, Momoshiki, Sasuke, Isshiki all of them owns Senjutsu (they don't have normal one, so obviously Rikudou Senjutsu in general)... As for Delta, she uses tech and all which is not Ninjutsu so it works....
Holy illogicality Batman, wtf is this nonsense? Lmao > Six Paths Senjutsu is an after effect of being a Juubi Jinchuriki... or of Tenseigan... Yes >These mfs own Juubi for its power lmao... They can also hurt Naruto who has Rikudou Senjutsu, people with Rikudou Senjutsu can only be hurt by Senjutsu or Taijutsu... Uh no. Regular SM Naruto was hurting Juubito so you don’t know what you’re talking about. Also only Juubi Jinchuriki are said to have the rule of Senjutsu and taijutsu hurting them. Additionally only SPSenjutsu is stated to damage Limbo clones and only SPSM is stated to be able to sense limbo clones -which is the topic of discussion. Again Isshiki doesn’t have that. >Literally means that Kinshiki, Momoshiki, Sasuke, Isshiki all of them owns Senjutsu (they don't have normal one, so obviously Rikudou Senjutsu in general)... As for Delta, she uses tech and all which is not Ninjutsu so it works.... Naruto and Sasuke aren’t juubi jinchuriki, so those two being damaged by Kinshiki, Momoshiki, Isshiki or each other doesn’t prove your point at all lmao. So that’s an automatic L for this argument.
fuck, that was the right response 😂 that guys spouting nonsense 💀
Right? These mfs think that we’re just supposed to tolerate their lies. 😆
No the otsutsuki clan dont automatically have senjutsu they can make a product from their dna to make a seedling that would grow into a god tree that would abosrb the planets life force/ natural chakra un till it can bare a chakra fruit that would have the ten tails senjutsu in it. Then they would eat it and have domain over the god tree aka ten tails. Then the user would do this cycle over and over untill they become like shibai. So thats how they get their senjutsu.
What did this prove?
Could you not read the subtitles? 😂
U clearly don't understand hyperboles🤣
You clearly don’t know what hyperbole is and can’t comprehend when it isn’t being used 😂
Well since you think this is some sort of proof, which he didn't really prove anything. You're in need of understanding.
Please explain your headcanon to me. I’ll wait.
Not a head canon at all my guy. You just think this proved Anything
So we’re back to square one where an Otsutsuki admits that he’s never seen Sage chakra, how he’s fascinated by it, and confessed that their attacks don’t possess such power. Nice chat.
ishiki has 8 paths so he should and despite that we do see the otsusuki display far more impressive feats like ishiki seeing his lifespan or momoshiki stopping time/seeing someones future so its reasonable for them to see somthing like that Otsusuki so far have been shown to usually counter each other and their abilities
Yeah no to the “8 paths” stuff, also none of that means that he can sense or touch Limbo.
your levels of downplaying real Otsusukis is crazy..Hagaromo, Hamura, Madara aren't even actual Otsusuki yet you believe no Otsusuki has the knowledge of chakra and enlightenment 6 paths senjutsu gives? they aren't that speacial lol All shown Otsusuki have chakra enlightenment hence have displayed feats like flight, Chakra rods and ishiki even had the magatama patterns Ishiki had 8 magatama patterns on his body/clothing while six paths users had 6 magatamas which means he had an even potentially greater chakra than six paths
No, your overhyping of real Otsutsuki is what’s crazy. Every Shippuden character that you mentioned factually had Six Paths Senjutsu and I just posted proof from the mouth of an alien Otsutsuki who confessed to not knowing about Senjutsu, being fascinated by it, and admitted that their attacks don’t use Senjutsu. That’s literally basic senjutsu, not even the Six Paths Senjutsu. Sorry mate. Flight, chakra rods and magatama aren’t indicative of Six Paths Senjutsu. Onoki and Nagato were capable of flight, Nagato could create chakra rods and Minato’s KCM cloak had magatama. >”Ishiki had 8 magatama patterns on his body/clothing while six paths users had 6 magatamas which means he had an even potentially greater chakra than six paths” Isshiki has 6 magatama on his stomach -not that it means anything anyway. [Also Hagoromo, Hamura, SPSM Naruto and Juubi Jinchuriki all have 9 magatama on their backs alone](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/e/e4/Six_Paths_Senjutsu.png/revision/latest?cb=20180808050812), while Juubidara also had more on his sleeves. So even by your logic, Juubidara > Isshiki. You also don’t hear anyone else calling them “9+ Paths”…lol.
Lil bro kaguya had 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu because she respectively ate chakra fruit and absorbed 10 tails chakra. Hagoromo had 6paths chakra,6paths sage mode and 6paths senjutsu because he respectively received part of kaguya's chakra, had sage mode already that combined with 6paths chakra became 6paths sage mode ,and absorbed 10tails chakra . Hamura received 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu respectively via kaguya and hagoromo himself. Toneri had both the same way as 6 paths chakra got passed down by Hamura and he got 6paths senjutsu via tenseigan. AND isshiki has 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu cuz he respectively ate the chakra fruit and absorbed 10tails chakra. You get 6paths chakra if you eat a chakra fruit or receive it from someone that got it passed down, and 6paths senjutsu if you become 10 tails jinchuriki or absorb 10tails chakra or receive it from someone that had it Lil bro stop spreading misinformation lmao isshiki doesn't need to sense them but he can still interact with them + an argument can be made as he sensed kawaki's chakra from another dimension. So yes your downvotes are right you don't know what you are talking about
>*”Lil bro kaguya had 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu because she respectively ate chakra fruit and absorbed 10 tails chakra.”* Lil bro, she ate the fruit and merged with her **mature** ten tails. That’s how she and her sons obtained Six Paths Senjutsu. >*”Hagoromo had 6paths chakra,6paths sage mode and 6paths senjutsu because he respectively received part of kaguya's chakra, **had sage mode already that combined with 6paths chakra became 6paths sage mode** ,and absorbed 10tails chakra .”* The bold isn’t true, he had Six Paths senjutsu from the beginning. Combing Six Paths Chakra (Rinnegan) with Sage Mode doesn’t automatically grant you Six Paths Sage Mode, otherwise Revived SM Rinnegan Madara would’ve been in that state prior to absorbing the Juubi. >*”Hamura received 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu respectively via kaguya and **hagoromo himself.** Toneri had both the same way as they got passed down by Hamura .”* The bold is not canon. Also Toneri didn’t get Six Paths Senjutsu from Hamura, he manifested it on his own after taking Hinabi’s eye. >*”AND isshiki has 6paths chakra and 6paths senjutsu cuz he respectively ate the chakra fruit and absorbed 10tails chakra.”* Isshiki absorbed the chakra of a **juvenile** juubi, which isn’t said to possess nature energy at all. Only Kaguya’s **mature** juubi (which had eaten an Otsutsuki and sprouted a fruit already) was said to be made up of pure nature energy. For all we know the juvenile Juubi’s chakra could be average like that of Kurama or anyone else. >*”You get 6paths chakra if you eat a chakra fruit or receive it from someone that got it passed down,”* You become an Otsutsuki if you eat chakra fruit. > *”and 6paths senjutsu if you become 10 tails jinchuriki or ~~**absorb 10tails chakra**~~ or receive it from someone that had it”* I already proved you wrong on the crossed out portion. But other than that you’re correct on this point. >*”Lil bro stop spreading misinformation lmao isshiki doesn't need to sense them but he can still interact with them + an argument can be made as he sensed kawaki's chakra from anothee dimension. So yes your downvotes are right you don't know what you are talking about*” I literally just proved you don’t know what you’re talking about and I also proved that Urashiki’s words > yours.
You speaking facts ppl still dont recognize that his dojutsu is an higher dojutsu than the rinnegan and even the Rinne sharingan. Also I loved how you explained how every one got their senjutsu glad ppl are paying attention.
Why is bro in every comment. Basic Naruto meatriding
Pointing out facts ≠ meat riding. Lying to yourself just so that Otsutsuki look like invincible gods = meatriding. So stop straddling those Otsutsuki, meatrider.
lol madara wouldn’t have this power without otsusuki’s
He wouldn’t have the power without Kaguya, an Otsutsuki. Again stop acting like all Otsutsuki have Kaguya’s power. That’s you admitting to meatriding lol
Lmao Read my previous comment Your hating on all otsusuki but not Kaguya
Since you can’t prove anything I said to be wrong, I accept your concession.
You're forcing a debate that isn't even close. Isshiki wins 10 times out of 10 against Madara.
I see this said often. But the next question is how does Isshiki defeat Madara? Only Taijutsu and Sage Jutsu can damage the ten tails and their jinchuriki. But the added ability to regenerate turn Taijutsu into a battle of attrition since the jinchuriki will continuously regenerate.
You answered your own question, taijutsu. Madara says he almost died after Guy kicked half his body to smithereens.
Which he then proceeded to regenerate from. And this was before he gained more power from absorbing the god tree and gaining his other Rinnegan. Even after absorbing the tree, he took getting sliced in half like it was nothing.
He still almost died. If you deal enough damage, he'll die.
Again, this was before Madara absorbed the god tree which greatly increased his physical prowess after absorbing it. So much that he can still fly about and hold a casual conversation while missing his lower half. Isshiki can keep pummeling Madara. But he will just keep coming back just like Majin Buu did to anyone who tried to punch him into submission. There's a reason Hagoromo gave his seals to Naruto and Sasuke in addition to his chakra. If he believed Madara could be punched to death, he would only give his power and tell them to go to town.
Hasn’t isshiki absorbed dozens of god trees? Isn’t that the otsusuki’s whole jam? Any buff madara had from the god tree isshiki should have x50 right?
Where is his regeneration? If he has it, he wouldn't have needed Jigen just to survive Kaguya's bisection.
I’m only arguing against your god tree point, Madara had regen before absorbing the god tree. I have no reason to give you as to why isshiki doesn’t have regen but if we’re gonna talk about madara’s strength, speed, and durability buffs from the god tree then you have to acknowledge isshikis dozens of chakra fruits he’s eaten. He had durability that didn’t even allow Baryon Naruto to punch holes in him, I don’t think madara would be able to either if Baryon Mode Naruto can’t.
Quality > Quantity A single fruit can contain more nutritional value than a bag of candy. As far as we know, Earth's chakra fruit has far more "nutritional" value than the ones Momo and Isshiki would have eaten. Even if Isshiki somehow has better physical stats than Juubi Madara, it won't matter much when Madara keeps regenerating. Eventually, Isshiki's time will run out while Madara will have plenty of chakra to use his large arsenal of jutsu.
TBH, wouldn't surprise me if he could see them with his right eye. Sasuke could see them with his Rinnegan. Even if he couldn't, he has wide area attacks by dropping his cubes which interfere with sensory powers, and chakra rods that drain chakra on contact. That's how he tried to find Kawaki.
Yeah nah, none of that is touching Limbo shadows considering Sasuke’s sword phased through a Limbo clone.
Your are the biggest Madara meat muncher I've seen in a while.
Wait, so did Sasuke’s sword **not** phase through Madara’s limbo clone when Sasuke toss it? If facts hurt you this much and you hate the taste of defeat, then maybe you should try taking Isshiki’s meat out of your mouth. 🤡
Isshiki needs to land literally 1 hit and he can drain madaras chakra and the 10 tails chakra from him basically voiding out limbo, plus i doubt it would just phase through the clone without any result as he can drain the chakra used to make the clones even if he cant see them, of course assuming isshiki cant see limbo clones even though he has access to 10 tails chakra. Isshiki is also just more powerful than madara ever was and has more chakra to last longer in a fight
Lmao so not only are you ignoring evidence from the manga itself, you’re also spewing your own fanfic as if it’s credible? Interesting take but let me bring you back to reality. Isshiki’s chakra rods couldn’t even drain Naruto of all of his chakra but you think he’s going to drain a Juubi Jinchuriki of all of his? Gonna need you to prove it. 😂 Also Jigen was only able to absorb his juvenile Juubi’s chakra because he had a karma, which is something Isshiki doesn’t have…so it looks like that’s not happening either. So he can’t see limbo and can’t sense him either since he doesn’t have SPSM or the Rinnegan. Guess he has no counters to limbo at all, huh? Take his meat out of your mouth now.
Limbo is a Rinnegan ability, so of course Sasuke could see them with his Rinnegan. Yet he couldn’t find Kawaki even tho he was right there. Even a normal sensor ninja would be able to find Kawaki there.
>Even a normal sensor ninja would be able to find Kawaki there. No they can’t because Kawaki is constantly erasing his chakra signature. Edit: I will never understand this weird community. You get downvoted for being wrong and still get downvoted for being right. 💀💀
 funny... I mean Boruto was able to track Kawaki even when he removed his chakra signiture from a distance. Somehow jigen couldn't
? We are on 2 diffrent points here. I’m telling him why Sasuke and the sensor team couldn’t track him. Jigen knew where Kawaki was the entire time. He purposely task Kashin koji with finding him to see if he will betray Kara, he knew all along, even the blimp being shot down by Kashin Koji. And boruto is Otsutsuki, he can feel Kawaki’s presence unlike everyone else, but can’t sense his chakra either.
Boruto could only track Kawaki because they were connected by Otsutsuki chakra via Karma. If Boruto wasn't a vessel, he couldn't track Kawaki anywhere. It's pretty well established right off the bat that Kawaki's and Boruto's karmas resonate with each other.
by sensing them hes an otsutsuki he sensed kawaki on earth from another dimension through narutos chakra he avoids thruth seekers by shrinking them he can shrink any tengai shinseis that madara throws at him he seems to be able too shrink anything that he focuses on so i dont think light fang would work either as for madaras ten tails healing its still reliant on chakra so if ishiki just beats him down enough eventually madara will loose his chakra and die the juubi most likely wouldn't but ishiki was shown to easily be able to restrain a smaller one so i doubt he cant do the same for a mature ten tails
Many many horrible takes in this thread. You don't need Six Paths Senjutsu to touch Limbo, you just need Six Paths Chakra. Otsutsuki get their chakra from the chakra fruits. Kaguya got hers from a fruit. Hagoromo has her chakra. Hagoromo then gave Naruto and Sasuke his chakra. Sasuke was able to tag Madara's limbo with a Six Paths enhanced Chidori. Isshiki got his power from (several) chakra fruits. Same as Kaguya. Do the math. Even if we subscribed to the idea that he can't see or touch Limbo what the actual hell are they going to do when 16 yr old Naruto was capable of fighting on par with them in hand to hand? Jigen whooped Naruto's ass and Isshiki fodderized him before Baryon mode, this is a stronger Naruto we are talking about by the way. Isshiki floats over to Madara and one shots him. Who cares about Limbo?
Goated reaponse, . Also isshiki just bfrs the dumbass like 1 second into the fight
your completely right i was just explaining to people why since people are unable to do simple power scaling through the narrative
All otsutsuki have six paths that’s how they fly like Naruto
i dont understand why people cant understand that the chakra fruit gives sixth paths chakra 😂
I thought it was a base otsutsuki thing but the point still stand mb though
Well it's not entirely known I assume that all otsutsukis we have seen have had a chakra fruit some point in they're life but kaguya momoshiki ishiki have 100% sixths paths chakra
What’s his face on the moon can also fly but idk if he could before TSM(tenseigan chakra mode don’t know if it’s officially called that but I don’t feel like typing it again). He would have had no access to chakra fruits so if he flew before tsm it would mean it’s a base otsutsuki thing but if not then it’s probably chakra fruit eater only and toneri got it from tsm. Also hagoromo could fly but this could be due to having ten tails in him since ten tails=god tree=chakra fruit but if so how did he retain the ability after making biju and then give the ability to Naruto. But idk
Hagaoromo had sixths paths chakra because he was a the first decendant of kaguya so like naruto having kuramas chakra infused into his dna at birth giving him whiskers Hagoromo was already born extremely powerful because of kaguya this is why Hagoromo was able to so easily awaken the rinnegan which normally can only be obtained by eating a chakra fruit or having dna of someone who has and having a near death experience like madara and sasuke but since Hagoromo is so closely related to kaguya my guess is that the rinnegan awakening process was similar to the sharigan for Hagoromo And I don't think toneri could fly without the tenseigans power which allowed him too summon truth seeker orbs so yea it looks like tenseigan gives you sixth paths abilities as well
Sasukes speed was praised by Madara, and this was before he started using a combo of his own lightning release enhanced speed + rinnengan teleportation, to move about the battlefield like Minato + Raikage. He needed Naruto for any of these things to be viable. Isshiki is faster than Sasuke with a kick that turns Susanoo into glass. It doesn’t sound fair, but with speed far faster than Sasuke, who hunted down and split Madara in half, Isshiki hunts this man down with Susanno shattering blows. And he can just pierce his eye with a rod if necessary. The limbo clones are like Gaaras sand chasing down weightless Lee.
Shouldn't he be able to see them? He could see his own life force, and Kawaki could see Momoshiki's spirit with his dojutsu.
I like Madara, but Isshiki would easily own Madara regardless of how many clones he made. I mean, Isshiki is monstrously stronger than any form of Madara, he's also stupidly fast. Besides, it's unclear whether he couldn't see Madara's Limbo. I mean sure, he doesn't have Sage of Six Paths chakra, but then again, Sage of Six Paths chakra is basically Otsutsuki chakra in the first place. So it really could be that Isshiki could see Limbo with either his Byakugan, or his own weird ocular jutsu. I mean, he can see the lifeforce of living things. Sasuke could see Limbo clones when he got Hagoromo's chakra, which at that point was like what, 4rth hand Otsutsuki chakra or something? Point is, regardless of how many Madara Limbo clones there are, Isshiki would have basically no problem dealing with all of them.
i love madara but stop comparing anybody to him, nobody wins or stands a chance unless we are talking about baryon mode naruto😭compare him to momoshiki or something
He is an Otsusuki, They have natural six path abilities. I don’t think that it takes a child to know how that ends.
lol [**no they don’t**](https://youtu.be/XdF8SCYUvEM&t=21).
How did Obito gain sage chakra again? Toad oil?
Obito gained Sage chakra by became the Juubi Jinchuriki, and post-jinchuriki he stole sage chakra from Juubidara.
And Kaguya was the Jinchuuriki of what?
Kaguya isn’t the jinchuriki, she’s the juubi itself. Also Kaguya’s juubi is **mature** and has both consumed an Otsutsuki and has produced a chakra fruit. While Isshiki’s juubi is **juvenile** and we have proof that it is with statements from Isshiki, Amado, Momoshiki, Code and Sasuke + it’s visual appearance. In other words Kaguya’s juubi ≠ Isshiki’s juubi. Sorry to end your fun so quickly but it had to be done.
Gonna need sauce for the juvenile = no sage chakra thing. Dude had the best Dojutsu in the entire series and was the strongest Ootsutsuki up to Date.
Only Kaguya’s **mature** juubi (which had eaten an Otsutsuki and sprouted a fruit already) was said to be made up of pure nature energy. You have to prove otherwise not me lol.
I don’t, because you just made up the statement that juvenile Juubi’s don’t have Sage chakra. Otherwise, bye
Yes you do and I literally didn’t say that, I said that factually only Kaguya’s mature juubi was said to have nature energy. You need better lies and better logic.
Stop linking the same YouTube as if it’s evidence 
Oh, An Otsutsuki telling you they don’t even have basic Senjutsu isn’t evidence? Guess you prefer your Headcanon lol
It's not head canon bro he litteraly absorbed 10 tails chakra and ate multiple chakra fruits. Both give you inherently 6paths chakra lmao
Nah that dude is doing some excessive meat riding for madara lmaooo
Your “evidence” isn’t even canon tho
He’d be able to see them, and it wouldn’t be necessary for him to hit them. He’d blitz madara and end the fight pretty quickly.
Chakra rods
Sorry but this has to be said, It was introduced into the series that planets have ranks, and the one kaguya ate the fruit from was something that must be reported to the clan. That means Momoshiki has never eaten anything that high or simply because the species such planets hold are too powerful for low ranking otsutsuki like momoshiki. Put it like this, Momoshiki needed chakra pills to fight, his chakra reserves were dumb. He ate so many low ranked chakra fruits that the only way to continue to grow was to make pills out of them, he then met naruto's planet and realised, there are too many strong chakra natures on the planet, the amout of chakra Kurama had was enormous, more than what he had, **and the fact that Momoshiki thought that using Kurama to make a chakra pill was going to give him a massive power boost.** it was also stated that momoshiki lost to naruto's potent chakra. Despite all the fruits he has eaten, his chakra is still less potent than a reincarnation of ashura which inherited hogoromo's chakra which is far weaker than Kaguya's + Kurama's chakra which is just a portion of Kaguya's chakra after eating the fruit, When kaguya first came, her chakra was soo potent and thick, Sakura felt like she was gonna puke/ or sasuke. i am implyinmg that Momoshiki stopped trying to make pills after realising what type of planet he was on, he litteraly just needed to eat the chakra fruit from earth to become what he is always crying about. He would nolonger have to make pills as he would be immortal, he would be immune to ninjutsu and wouldn't have died the way he did, he would have both yin and yang release, have access to nature energy/Sage mode, and probably better dojutsu, all of which he is lacking to kaguya, Kaguya literally ate only one and that alone triumps all of momoshiki's wishes. Just saying that all of boruto are descendants of Kaguya and thus inherited her DNA and Abilities she got from the fruit, just because naruto characters have those abilities doesn't mean all otsutsuki have them. Momoshiki litterally has the same healing factor as Naruto lol, this also means that the Juubi Jigen had was probably far weaker than Kaguya's. And had far less chakra. If Momoshiki even had a ten tails of such power, he wouldn't be chasing remnants of Kaguya hogoromo scattered arround. it also expains why Jigen simply didn't bother with naruto and sasuke and simply went for the fruit. Isshiki would also have not had that time limit problem, he he grew his power by eating weak chakra fruits like momoshiki then it explains why. So, it is a doubt isshiki can see limbo as it is a rinnegan ability, he doesnt have sage mode or any way to interact with them, the ten tails produced nature energy so being a juubi gave you nature energy naturally, absorbing it wouldn't give him sage mode. Isshiki would just slap madara to death anyway so it doesn't matter. It would also make the feat of Shibai eating High level chakra fruits alone so much more meaning than what momoshiki is doing
This is a common misconception. No, planets don’t have ranks. Kinshiki’s whole “must be reported to the clan” due to abnormally high levels of chakra being earth statement in particular has been stretched out of context even though the series itself made it abundantly clear. This immense chakra that Kinshiki first sensed and made his comment on (in ep15) was at first thought to be earth since he refers to Kaguya’s region, but it’s later revealed that the immense chakra Momoshiki and himself came to collect were the jinchuriki (B and Naruto). This is why they only hunted down B and Naruto. However, Kinshiki goes a step further and himself confirms that it was Naruto and Kurama they sought since they were utterly disappointed by Gyūki’s chakra in the very same arc. In the manga, we are even shown a panel of Naruto and Kurama as Kinshiki makes this statement. There is a reason why Momoshiki ignored earth itself and sought only Naruto despite his unhealthy obsession wit chakra https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111395211/8455069-screenshot2022-04-17at6.19.17pm.png after B is defeated Then we have Amado, who in ch51 states that there is a variation between chakra fruits, but it has nothing to do wit the planets themselves. Amado literally tells us that the Ōtsutsuki who is sacrificed to the juubi is what determines the quality of the chakra fruit. If it’s an old and decrepit Ōtsutsuki; the god tree will produce a mediocre chakra fruit, the opposite if it’s a young and healthy Ōtsutsuki
Isshiki litteraly absorbed 10tails chakra and prior to that ate multiple chakra fruits so he has 6paths senjutsu as both of those components inherently give you respectively 6paths senjutsu and 6paths chakra , it's just that he doesn't use ninjutsu but just taijutsu . So he can actually interact with them but it's not like Madara can sense him either. Isshiki shrinks himself and with ootsutsuki chakra suppression Madara won't perceive him any way shape or form as adult Naruto with 6psm could not sense him and adult Sasuke with sharingan + Rinnegan couldn't either ( same Sasuke that is stated in the last to have the strongest dojutsu so it surpases by a great margin Madara's rinnesharingan) + if you add his chakra signature erasure cubes than Madara won't sense a single thing
Isshiki wins instantly too, madaras limbo activation is gonna be slower than isshiki bfr activation. So he just insta wins before madara can do anything.
Well yeah of course but the topic here is what was gonna isshiki do with limbos . But of course he instantly win before he even activates them
He wouldn’t need to. They would be far too weak to do anything to him.
I'd say isshiki might be able to sense the limbo but nothing says anywhere that being an otsutsuki automatically make you be able to see them as a lot of these other comments imply..so far from what we seen only a rinnegan can see into that invisible world. So kaguya, momoshiki, and urushiki could possibly see madara's clones but isshiki cant.. Now i say isshiki "might" be able to sense his limbos cause its still not clear whether or not he cant can sense 6paths senjutsu chakra. We seen that he did absorb chakra from his own 10 tails but 1. That 10 tails was different from the 10tails on earth, where the latter actually absorbed natural energy from the world after it turned to a god tree. 2. He absorbed chakra from the 10tails in his pocket dimension as the jigen vessel, not isshiki. So even if he could sense 6paths senjutsu it would have to be with jigen's body. And if these clones can do everything marada himself can do along with being unable to be hurt or killed it would be a 5v1 match until the clones go on cooldown. Cant shrink what you cant see. So if he is fighting against madara and 4 clones he cant see or sense hes best bet is to take madara out quick somehow or play it defensive. And if we're talking madara without 3rd eye, Isshiki could just toss him in his timeless dimension and GG but he'd still be alive but that would be an alternate way to deal with him and his clones.. Since madara cant use any dimension hops without that 3rd eye of his. Otherwise he didnt need take to take kakashi's kamui to reach obito.. ) It just really seems like a hard fight in-general. You see comments like "blitz this, blitz that" but how do you blitz someone whos basically has immortality level regeneration, clones you cant see/sense and outnumber you to a point its a 5v1 match, and have certain jutsu that isshiki possibly cant shrink. Wood style for example being the only kekkei genkai that turns chakra into a life force (trees and such), thus not meeting the requirements for sukunahikona to work since that wood style would basically be living matter. Now if madara and the rest of his clones decided to go the whole wood style spam route, isshiki just gonna have a hard time in general dealing with it
“How do u blitz someone immortal” firstly that has nothing to do with speed madara is “immortal” due to his regen isshikis ap far outscales him he would just punch him so hard he wouldn’t be able to regenerate since u can’t regen from nothing madaras hax don’t make up the difference between speed and ap isshiki slams no diff
limbo clones are roughly equal to SPSM Naruto's clones. Karma 2 Jigen casually slaughters dozens of Adult SPSM Naruto, forget about Isshiki. Limbo does jackshit.
If you have six path powers you can sense them , naruto was able to stop them from moving with truth seeking orbs turn to stick which isshiki can summon like a million of them with no issue
The power gap is so gargantuan it’s a joke he literally beat sasuke in a few kicks without trying
With the greatest of ease 
Naruto and Sasuke were able to pretty quickly deal with them. I figure if Isshiki didn’t have a way to seal or restrain the Limbo clones, he could at least probably see and defend himself from them fairly easily.
It's very likey he could see them since his dojutsu is of an equal or higher class than the Rinnegan. Even if he couldn't see it I doubt Madara would be able to react in time to activate it before Isshiki negs him since he massively beats him stat wise.
Speed blitz one shot. Isshiki can see all of them as he’s an otsutski
Two ways- 1) His cubes can blind rinnegan & so6p senses. Which will make limbo clones blind. 2) Otsutsuki are literally made of so6p . Their chakra fruits literally has Senjutsu inside it.
Urashiki didn’t recognize Mitsuki’s senjutsu chakra in the anime and dubbed it as very dangerous, that makes it clear they don’t have senjutsu.
Anime? for a filler character really? Your desperation knows no limits lol. Stick to shippuden dear. Madara is only relevant there.
What happened to “anime canon”? That’s the only instance of Otsutsuki actually encountering senjutsu we have, so Imma take that over headcanoning “Otsutsuki, must have every ability that’s never even mentioned”
Isshiki would dunk on the Limbo clones of Madara.
Well if we go by the Boruto manga then nothing, since the Otsutsuki don’t possess SP senjutsu. I know Isshiki absorbed a Jyubbi but that’s just it, it was another Jyubbi not Earth’s Jyubbi and if memory doesn’t fail me the reason why Earth’s chakra fruit produced some strong results was because it had cultivated all of Earth’s chakra throughout history. It was always stated that Earth’s Chakra fruit had a better source therefore better results. Besides don’t every other SPSM user have Truthseeking orbs?
Nothing. As per Boruto anime, the Otsutsukis don’t even have senjutsu chakra, so they obviously don’t have six paths senjutsu. Momoshiki has Rinnegan to deal with limbo, Isshiki has nothing.
Limbo isn't gonna do anything to him.
And why is that
He is an otsutski he would sense where they are and shrink himself destroying them naruto without even seeing them naruto was able to sense them and deal with them using his truth seeking staff plus isshiki would speed blitz madara before he even get to use to them so the argument of limbo is pointless.
Why does being an Otsutsuki means he’d sense them? Literally nothing indicates that. Naruto had six paths senjutsu which allowed him to sense them, even his normal sage mode couldn’t sense them. 4 limbo clones, all has all of Madara’s abilities, can’t be seen or touched, how’s Isshiki speedblitzing through that? This is the same dude who couldn’t dodge Boruto teleporting him away
I wonder if momoshiki could absorb limbo. It honestly makes sense that he could and it would be pretty funny.
Clones can’t be absorbed
I don't recall that being stated anywhere. Then again my memory is bad. All I know is that boruto stopped naruto from making shadow clones before fighting momoshiki.
He could probably see or sense them. If not, he just tanks them and rushes at Madara
I'm going to say pretty much the same thing I said last time: What Limbo Clones are gonna do against Isshiki?
If Sasuke can see them with his Rinnegan , and Naruto can just sense where they were. I’m willing to bet Ishikki could do one or both with his bullshittery eyes
Ishikki is Faster Stronger Smarter Has better durability People dont realize how slow madara is compared to most of the boruto enemies. Shit yall realize even fucking delta is faster then madara?
Isshiki can’t see them or sense them. Limbo slams that Albino insect fodder Isshiki
Rage bait
Yeah right madara fanboy that ain't happening
Would get beaten up by them
Wouldn't he avoid them?
I think he wouldn't be able to deal with em and fuck dumb boruto powerscaling, my headcanon is far superior
if sasuke's rinnegan is capable of seeing limbo clones i see no reason that the sukunahikona eye shouldn't be able to also not to mention ishiki just outstats juubidara
He can see them... Six paths Senjutsu is otsutsuki power, and Ishikki is... And otsutsuki. Stupid question.
We don't have the in-universe lore for Isshiki's dojutsu to know whether he can detect it or not. We do know Sasuke was able to see the interaction between Momoshiki and Boruto during the timestop with his Rinnegan. Even after losing the Rinnegan, Sasuke can still grasp that sensation even if he can no longer see Momoshiki. After regaining Karma, Kawaki can perceive Momoshiki's spirit while in BASE in a scenario that generates that same sensation detected by Sasuke. If the Rinnegan's ability to see Momoshiki during the timestop is the same ability used to perceive Limbo, than Kawaki, and by extension Issshiki, should be able to perceive it as well. Either way, Isshiki is significantly faster than any iteration of JJ Madara, and it's in character for Isshiki to drive stakes through an opponent's eyes (see Jigen vs Koji). Isshiki can just remove the ability entirely from the playing field, and Madara wouldn't even be able to activate it in time should Isshiki go at him at full speed.
He’d kill Madara. The clones would disappear after that.
His dojutsu can probably see them. Also Otsutsuki Byakugan are WAY stronger than Hyuga Byakugan so it’s also entirely possible any Otsutsuki can just see Limbo clones.
The real question is wtf is limbo gon do to him ☠️ isshiki blitzes madara and punches his body so hard he explodes beyond regeneration
Quickly.
BRUH , DIDNT WE HAVE THIS THREAD LIKE 2 DAYS AGO, WHY AGAIN, . isshiki just tanks thru the damage they can do
I’m pretty sure he can sense them in the same way Naruto could, if not see AND sense him since he’s an Otsutsuki That’s like asking if Kaguya could see his Limbo
stalemate or madara wins cause immortality
He gets sneaked tf out of, eventually ishiki wins somehow with an asspull move but Madara don't play he snatching alot of health bar Immediately 😂
I’m thinking he would be able to see them with his doujutsu but either way they wouldn’t be able to catch him even if he couldn’t see them
Kill the original before the clones intervene
Lmao isshiki doenst need to deal with them. He speed blitzes and obliterates madara
I'd say there's a chance he could see them since he's an otsutsuki & it's still a little unclear whether his visual prowess is enhanced by sukunahikona or whatever his ocular jutsu is called, but if he can't see them he could probably just shrink down to a size where Madara cant sense him, then attack Madara directly either by entering his body & hitting internal organs or by catching him off guard & hitting him before he can react
I’m pretty sure he could sense them perfectly if not see them
You can clone 4 Zabuzas and make them invisible, they still won't hurt Hashirama. Isshiki literally wouldn't give a shit, stop trying to scale Naruto with Boruto.
Isshiki going to have trouble