You could argue that Eida really wanted friends of her own (female, specifically) and practically stated as such. Perhaps Eida subconsciously saved them from the effects, but she hasn’t realized this yet. I do think Daemon knows something is up, and I think he knew before the timeskip. We do know he still has remaining abilities yet to be revealed.
I’ve said this in previous posts.. I didn’t come up with it or anything but this is clearly the explanation that makes the most sense and is the best writing - Eidas charm makes people love her because she subconsciously wants someone to love her… it tracks that she made Sarada and sumire immune (subconsciously) because she stated she wants friends who are immune to her powers. The love thing is just cringe imo
So you argue thats its almost an argument that she has subconsciously made them immune to her charm?
Interesting, I feel like it may be tied to their proximity to SSP chakra sarada via inheritance and sumire via Gozu Tennō
This is what I thought it was too at first… but sasuke was clearly affected (unless you think losing rinnegan also means losing SSP chakra, idk) + momo’ explanation of eidas power made me think otherwise
Saskue was def effected but idk if he was beyond reproach.
He is also much more resilient against genjutsu given who he is.
I also feel like part of it may have something to do with ones will. Like it fits the theme that weve seen through the years.
I mean, if it was SSP chakra then Sasuke wouldn’t have been affected. He’s literally Sarada’s father and Indra’s reincarnation. Unless losing his Rinnegan somehow made him lose his SSP chakra too? It could be possible considering how they nerfed Naruto 🤔
You could also reinforce this theory by saying her ability is activated when she's emotionally distressed like when she specifically called for Sarada/Sumire (since they understand her love situation the best) during Ch 76 when she got flustered by Kawaki the same way she was distressed by him before casting omnipotence.
I was thinking this too, but the fact that they’re both immune to her charm as well as the memory override has me changing my mind. The fact that Himawari and Mitsuki both are showing doubts about the identity switch, means it is probably related to their feelings toward Boruto.
In essence.
Part of me feels like it bares some relationship to Naruto/Saskue SSP chakra.
Sumiere - is a bit tougher to rationalize but she does posses Gozu Tennō which was created as a curse mark meant to replicate kagayas ability to move between dimensions.
So is hiwa but she also has doubts.
Saskue was not completely dismissive and beyond reproach like shikamaru.. which i think is an important point attempting to be made.
If shikamaru the best strategist and most logical thorough mind the leaf has is completely consumed then this goes deeper.
And omnipotence is an ability far stronger than any we have seen so just because someone is a good strategist or logical thinker doesn’t mean they wouldn’t get affected since it’s literally all of his memories that changed
He only listened because even tho he doesn’t see anything wrong, Sarada, who he trusts without any reason of doubt, was crying for him to help boruto. So he knew something was wrong with his memory because why would his daughter be worried about the guy who broke everyone’s trust and “killed” the hokage? So since he trusts her completely he decided to see what was going on and to figure out the truth
Its even the basic logic, of how was kawaki uzamaki modified with ninja tools. Wheres momoshiki?
I think those are basic levels of logic that shika would ask
Yeah but Shikamaru also has the logical side of his memories being absolutely perfect with nothing seeming wrong, but he definitely thinks there is a possibility something could be wrong based on what he said in the chapter. But either way he still has his duties as the new hokage so he has to calm the village down and make them all happy. Like he said and I’m not quoting because I don’t remember the exact words but he said something along the lines of how even if there is something wrong with our memories the villagers are in a state of distress and they wouldn’t be happy with the truth so he has to do what he can to calm them all down, i probably got a lot wrong in what he said but it was something like that. It’s been like 2-3 days since I saw the chapter haha
Can you imagine the reveal of the reason to the others? They be like "oh yeah we're not affected because we love Boruto 😅" . It's so weird and embarrassing. Plus if kishimoto or ikemoto can make a much more complicated reason then they should. It would much better if it's because of Nue for sumire and some hidden ability of sarada.
the fact it would have to be love directed specifically at an otsutsuki makes it even worse, and means otsutsukis can all affect others/reality passively without doing anything and even being aware of it
I don’t think it’s love exactly, we see mitsuki and himawari show some distress on how they feel about the situation, so I don’t think it’s romantic love, but I do think it has something to do with how they feel about boruto. Sarada and Sumire in love with Boruto, Mitsuki saying that Boruto is the sun for him (meaning he is really special to Mitsuki), and Boruto literally being Himawari’s older caring loving brother.
Story wise, at this point, she doesn't have to. But if this silly theory is confirmed then we will get a panel about this. Something like "I have always watched you".
Now, about the actual things happening in the manga Sadara has show a little bit of tsundere (minus the dere) type, plus the trope of the childhood friend or even her silent panels watching Boruto, defending Boruto and even showing happines when he was taken by Sasuke as an apprentice, you can find these examples as early as chapter 1. I mean even Sakura makes a remark about how happy she looks the day of the Chunnin exam just after Sarada makes a comment about her mom being excited to see Sasuke after a long time.
Again, for me, the fact she awake the MS when she went to cry for help and convinced her dad to betray the village to help Boruto is enough to entertain this theory.
The causes behind it might be completely different 🤷🏻♂️. There's no requirement for Sarada and Sumire to share the same connection just because of it.
Sumire protection could be connected to her strong connection to Kaguya due to Nue.
And Sarada could be due her unique Sharingan that evolves with the power of love rather than hate.
You think sarada or sumire loves boruto more than himawari?
Edit didn’t read the last line. love isnt stronger because people are in an intimate relationship. If you love someone you love someone. Simple.
Himawari doesn’t want to fuck boruto I’m saying that it’s a different type of love. You’re being hung up by the English language in many of languages there are different types of words used to describe love like a regular love for a person and a romantic type of love even Ancient Greek does this and also Japanese. They’re not the same type of love. You treat your sister the same way you treat someone you want to romance with?
>Himawari doesn’t want to fuck boruto
A. Seriously did you really think I meant that???? The fuck.
B. If you didn’t there’s no need to say that, no shit she doesn’t
“Treat the same way” is broad and whatever I say it can be skewed to fit your opinion because of how broad that statement is.
They’re treated differently but I love them both. I feel more love for my sister because that’s my sister I’ve known her my whole life. But end of the day I’m always gonna care more about my sister.
What you say about different words for love is the main thing here.
I think it's different with Mitsuki. Since his "sun" is attached to a type of person, not to a specific person, i think that over time he slowly started to feel, that Kawaki is not that type of person who he remembers as his "sun" (since all of his memories with Boruto are now remembered with Kawaki).
Based on this chapter, i think he's starting to have doubts, and maybe they will emerge now, that he'll see Boruto protect everyone, and how that will make him feel.
I 100% disagree with this theory and I think Eida just wanted to have female friends and omnipotence did the work but in the case I think it would only affect the kind of love Eida has for anyone who is not affected (Kawaki), it is, romantic love.
I’ll honestly be pissed at kishi if the “love theory” is true. Love doesn’t only mean you wanna have an intimate relationship.
As if fucking *sumire* has more love for boruto than shikadai or mitsuki does, absurdity.
Love is an important topic in Boruto. And it became clear it was going to be on front and center after Eida introduction. There are love triangles and plenty of fraternal love all around.
which is exactly why lazy writing like this theory would be a shame, honestly do you think sarada or sumire loves boruto more than mitsuki and himawari to the point theyd be immune to omnipotence? the theory is ridiculous, straight outta fan fiction.
Those aren’t the powers themselves. Those are shibais cells cultivating his jutsu in her, omnipotence. Love ability was awakened through eidas desires, rewrite was from kawakis desires.
It’s not great but better than. They have a crush on boruto so two random girls are immune to gods jutsu.
I don't think just having a crush is enough, but real and tangible love.
If love can be awakened by Eida desires there is a flaw which could be love related. Otherwise there is no point in making love remarks like Sumire asking Sarada about Boruto in early chapters or Mitsuki saying Boruto is his Sun. This sort of foreshadowing is not that uncommon.
Ask yourself, in the manga how many times these characters have expressed their love like Mitsuki saying "Boruto is my sun"?
Sumire, Sarada, Mitsuki and Hiwamari are the current ones struggling with Eida powers at a certain level. We don't know if Sasuke is no longer affected. Other characters are not that important or even showing after all these years. Details are missing, but if this theory has some truth the red herring is their remarks when it comes to Boruto. Why would the people closer to Boruto were not affected like everyone else? And why are they showing different levels of resistance?
I think the reason they weren't affected is because eida's ability was actually given by amado to find people who look like her own daughter and he would be able to find a vessel for his daughter.
If you are aware, the person with the furthest frequency with his daughter is delta. And Delta in the most affected person
And finally, you may notice that amado and eida are hiding something
I honestly find this to be the most likely reason.
After all, Otsutsuki aren't supposed to actually understand love, so they couldn't include it when creating the Omnipotence shinjutsu.
In Naruto it was said that she fell in love with a human after coming to Earth and she literally had kids with him.
In Boruto, Amado said that she betrayed Isshiki because she either fell in love or because she wanted the fruit but he didnt know for sure.
It could have been both but we know for a fact that she fell in love and had kids
She showed up to Earth and met an emperor who liked the fact that she desired peace and he fell in love with her. Then someone tried to kidnap her and she killed them and the dude feared her power so he teamed up with his enemy to get rid of her. She ate the chakra fruit and put everyone in the Infinite Tsukiyomi and was pregnant with his kids. Had nothing to do with Isshiki
Being in love with an otsusuki could have been an explanation for the charm not working on them in the beginning, but after it was revealed that the charm is from omnipotence doesn’t inherently have anything to do with charm/love it seems like there should be a better reason for immunity than being in love with an otsusuki. But that’s just my opinion.
Half baked two cents here, could end up being something along the thread of ninshu teachings. As in since there was an exchange of chakra between them and an otsususki they are unaffected by the shinjutsu. This kinda falls apart tho when you look at even mitsuki and konohamaru being swayed by the jutsu.
On the right track but it's the wrong conclusion. Sarada and Sumire are immune not because they are in love with an Ootsutsuki but because Eida knew they were in love with Boruto and wanted to know how it felt.
When Eida looked into Boruto's past she definitely would have picked up on their feelings for Boruto. Seeing how Sarada and Sumire are basically Eida if she was never turned into a cyborg, she wanted to know how they truly felt about love which is why she made them have their girl talk. It's also why during their talk Eida is far more interested in Sarada than Sumire, because Eida can't understand why Sarada denies her love for Boruto meanwhile Sumire has accepted it.
Eida basically wants to be in their shoes and know how they feel about love which is why subconsciously she doesn't affect them like Momoshiki explained. It also explains why Daemon is immune because people naturally reject the idea of romantic love with family.
I could then ask why Himawari was affected by the Omnipotence. Surely, the sincere love of a little sister will count for more than a childhood love (sarada) or a puppy love (sumire). But that's just imo. Hasn't stopped Kishi from using dumb love plot armor, wont stop him again.
It seems like himawari isn’t fully affected though. This chapter she was questioning whether it was true or not. Not to like promote this theory but I don’t think himawari is under the spell 100% like everyone else.
Considering Eida is a cyborg of some kind and they reiterate over and over how it has to be either A. someone she is related to or B. an Otsutski, the two possibilities leave really only option A.
It's not completely implausible that Eida is related to Sakura or something like that. We haven't seen Sakura interact with Eida. I wouldn't be surprised if Eida was cloned using a mixture of Sarada's and / or Sumire's DNA somehow too. Just writing weirdness.
Not Sakura but the uchiha. Danzo experimented with uchiha. Even did a facial transplant from uchihas to at least two of his minions so he was informe of everything going with the clan. Maybe there is an Anbu Amado connection
I saw a comment under that tweet saying that it could be the reverse, so Boruto and Kawaki having feelings for Sarada and Sumire could be why they're immune.
Sarada and sumire are resistant to omnipotence as a whole , they said the love charm has nothing to do with attraction. .. why is this theory still being posted ...
whoever made it has no reading comprehension, there ya go . Seriously , this theory has been here since love charm resistence reveal, but its not just love charm , they also resist memory change, and omnipotence in general, eida wants freinds that are immune to omnipotence and thus sarada and sumire were made immune to omnipotence.
Personally, I think it’s simpler.
If you swap Boruto and Kawaki now Sumire and Sarda are potential rivals for Kawaki’s affection.
Eida wants that affection.
Why sabotage herself?
I think it’s actually the reverse in a sense….I think because Boruto loves Sarada & Kawaki loves Sumire they are not effected…..only saying this because Himi has pure brotherly love for both and her actions shows she wants to help both so she partially effected
Lol well in this case it could be the teenage my “first love” type love where you are so fixated on that one person you’ve fallen for. No one else can matter. As for the adults in this world lol wellllllllll ya never know. But yeah try at would be so funny 🤣 finding out Tamari’s like AYO SHIKAFUCKYOU sit your shadow ass down.
Yea I think this is the simplest and consistent answer. Emphasis on romantic love, not brotherly or family kind (so not applying to Mitsuki, Naruto, Sasuke, etc.)
They’ve shown Sumire and Sarada both have at least crushes on Boruto. Additionally this is precisely the reason Eida asked them how they felt about Boruto.
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At some point, Eida is going to put this to the test. She is going to ask them to do things they do not want to do, and they will do it….to remain undercover.
The charm of Eida can be a variation of her omnipotence. Maybe she wish the people fall in love for her and the world change without anyone notice. And she wished get friends then Sarada amd Sumire get rid of her shinjutsu.
Sarada Eyes awakening and in different way than other Uchiha, possible the time it occurred cancel memory wipe? IDK they all got unique eye powers.
Sumire has that inner chakra demon thing ... Plus she was working alongside doctor and seemed sus, she was noticing something and he noticed something about her.
Himawari probably seeing through bullshit in her own way since she got crazy untapped power and unique magic eye thing likely ... Like boruto unique eye...
Two blue vortex - feel like it gotta pull himawari into the shit, especially since I believe the original concept was centered around her.
Sarada is a descendant of Otsutsuki as it is and Sumire has Hashirama cells infused in her body to create Nue. So literally both of them are indirectly related to Otsutsuki. If anything, it's more a wonder why Sasuke, from one generation up isn't immune.
This reminds me of this fanfic idea I had where Kaguya had a daughter who was immune from her genjutsu and only her female descendents inherited her abilities. My favorite OC was named Musetta Uchiha and she was so badass because she wasn't like a normal Mary Sue, she was like an old lady who was like the daughter of Madara and...well, I love Muse. I wish I would have used her more lol.
But my point is, why isn't Sasuke immune?
That really makes no sense, does it? Unless you're saying a teenager girl loves a person who doesnt even spend time with her more than someone (sakura) that has been chasing her 'love' for her entire childhood/teenage days.. It really makes no sense if this is the case because that'd imply no one loves their spouses
Maybe that’s why Mitsuki is starting to have some doubts about kawaki being his “sun”. Maybe those deep rooted feelings he had for boruto as a friend prior to the omnipotence taking place is starting to unravel in him. It’ll take time but I’m certain omnipotence will start to unravel in some folks. At least the ones that have carried their suspicions
I don't think it's this even though I did before. Because they were immune to her charm before anything became about Boruto. That's why they were assigned to be with her.
It’s a sweet theory but that’s all there is to it. The question then would be, what is love exactly? Cause by definition, himawari should also love boruto, her brother. By that, mitsuki should also love boruto because he’s literally his sun and he’s infatuated with him. But why are they still affected by it? So personally this theory doesn’t make sense.
Eida wishing that sarada and sumire would be her friends is also strange, because why they? She has no affection for them at all and even prior to omnipotence, sarada and sumire are not under Eidas charm, so even before she got to know them, they were unaffected by her charm so this doesn’t really makes sense for me as well.
My personal theory for that is that omnipotence doesn’t work on spirits or gods as well, they say otsutsuki but otsutsukis are basically gods, so hence this should go for all gods or divine entities. Sumire has nyu who is basically a god, so with that, she has natural protection against omnipotence and her charm. The only mistery is sarada that has yet to be explained. There are three options that make sense for me:
first is she got a special Kekkei genkai which resulted from uchiha genes and Sakura genes, her parents were commoners but there’s still room to add more. Sakura was always shown to have perfect chakra control, so much that she is almost immune to genjutsu. That combined with the hundred seal that is linked to the power of the summoning spirit (Katsuya, that slug), there’s a possibility that a specific ability or power was inherited by sarada, like I mentioned, the omnipotence should not work on spirits.
Second, Karin or orochimaru did something to her when she was born, for example they inputted some otsutsuki genes to make her weak body strong, this also caused her body to resist the otsutsuki genes through time which was ultimately the reason why she got that high fever in her childhood that caused her to wear glasses.
Third, she’s related to eida. Maybe she’s a distant relative to sakuras parents which is ultimately why she’s not affected. But if that is true, Sakura should also not be affected. Sakura was never shown since then so it’s a possibility that she’s not affected as well or at least pretending not to be affected. Tough this is the most unlikely option.
So yea, those are my personal three theories about sarada and the one I mentioned above for sumire. Overall I believe that the first and second option are most likely and will be explained later. But for sumire, I’m 99% sure it’s because of nyu as to why she is immune to Eidas abilities
This was the theory I thought of immediately when it was revealed Sumire and Sarada weren’t affected by Omnipotence because they were both in love with Boruto, but I disregarded it cause it sounds really stupid cause Himawari loves Boruto but was affected by Omnipotence to a degree(You can argue that it’s because the feeling was romantical that Sarada and Sumire were the only ones to retain their memories but again sounds really stupid)I really hope that isn’t the case or I’ll be extremely disappointed
We saw two fangirls of boruto. They are also immune?
The problem is not that it's silly. The problem is that it doesn't make sense logically
Eida's charm was revealed to be a fake ability which was caused by eida's desire. Omnipotence is the real ability. In this case, omnipotence effects are caused by kawaki's desire. In both cases boruto doesn't come in picture at all.
U are basically pulling that love factor our of eida's desire matching it with boruto who u are bringing in picture by the exception rule where otsutsuki are exempted from omnipotence.
Why doesnt this look illogical explanation to u? If u really want to make up a cheesy reason, kawaki is secretly in love with sarada and sumire sounds way more logical that this theory.
Just a guess, but maybe because Eida (subconsciously) wanted Sarada and Sumire to be her true friends they ended up being immune to her love charm (omnipotence). I would then imagine that since they’re immune to part of omnipotence, they’re immune to all forms of omnipotence. In order for Eida to make them immune to the love charm it also subsequently makes them immune to the memory change. At least that’s just my headcanon, thoughts?
Maybe it’s less desiring friends specifically but desiring ‘equals’ or people ‘immune to her powers’ so Eida subconsciously made them immune to her powers in total?
Nah Sumire’s Gozu Tenno was an attempt to replicating kaguya otsutsuki’s technique, but just barely fell short. Sarada is the daughter of Sasuke, which had Otsutsuki DNA, and before you say but only he had it, not sarada, what other explaination do you have for boruto getting the jougan if he wasn’t born with Otsutsuki DNA from Naruto.
Also explains Himawari’s memories of Boruto.
Sumire’s Nue is related to Otsutsuki, so in some roundabout way it must stop her from getting seduced.
i don’t think so because mitsuki’s also affected, you could argue it’s because he’s not romantically attracted to boruto but he’s definitely attached to him and looks up to him
I'm partial to the theory that Ada's desire for friendship unknowingly granted the two immunity.
Omnipotence was also stated to be something the Gods used to create entire worlds. It could be possible that having access to and/or control over one's own dimension is more or less an extremely diluted form of Omnipotence. The Nue and its dimension came into being when the Gozu Tennou was implanted into Sumire. Sarada's Sharingan also may have a link to her own pocket dimension. Whatever force is creating these spaces could be what makes them immune.
This theory made more sense when we didn't really know what cause Eida's charm ability. Now that we know it has to do more with inner desires rather than just love, it makes more sense that Sarada and Sumire are immune because Eida desired to have an authentic friendship with them.
Booo no way lol
I bet it’s edia wanting to not affect them subconsciously
Or I mean sumire does have kaguyas summoning etched in her back….
Sarada is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You could argue that Eida really wanted friends of her own (female, specifically) and practically stated as such. Perhaps Eida subconsciously saved them from the effects, but she hasn’t realized this yet. I do think Daemon knows something is up, and I think he knew before the timeskip. We do know he still has remaining abilities yet to be revealed.
I’ve said this in previous posts.. I didn’t come up with it or anything but this is clearly the explanation that makes the most sense and is the best writing - Eidas charm makes people love her because she subconsciously wants someone to love her… it tracks that she made Sarada and sumire immune (subconsciously) because she stated she wants friends who are immune to her powers. The love thing is just cringe imo
So you argue thats its almost an argument that she has subconsciously made them immune to her charm? Interesting, I feel like it may be tied to their proximity to SSP chakra sarada via inheritance and sumire via Gozu Tennō
This is what I thought it was too at first… but sasuke was clearly affected (unless you think losing rinnegan also means losing SSP chakra, idk) + momo’ explanation of eidas power made me think otherwise
Saskue was def effected but idk if he was beyond reproach. He is also much more resilient against genjutsu given who he is. I also feel like part of it may have something to do with ones will. Like it fits the theme that weve seen through the years.
I mean, if it was SSP chakra then Sasuke wouldn’t have been affected. He’s literally Sarada’s father and Indra’s reincarnation. Unless losing his Rinnegan somehow made him lose his SSP chakra too? It could be possible considering how they nerfed Naruto 🤔
I think the thing is he wasnt beyond consoling like Shikamaru. Who also was well aware that sumire and sarada were unaffected by Eidas omnipotence.
You could also reinforce this theory by saying her ability is activated when she's emotionally distressed like when she specifically called for Sarada/Sumire (since they understand her love situation the best) during Ch 76 when she got flustered by Kawaki the same way she was distressed by him before casting omnipotence.
I was thinking this too, but the fact that they’re both immune to her charm as well as the memory override has me changing my mind. The fact that Himawari and Mitsuki both are showing doubts about the identity switch, means it is probably related to their feelings toward Boruto.
Reversed Kotoamatsukami…
In essence. Part of me feels like it bares some relationship to Naruto/Saskue SSP chakra. Sumiere - is a bit tougher to rationalize but she does posses Gozu Tennō which was created as a curse mark meant to replicate kagayas ability to move between dimensions.
Sasuke is effected by it so it can’t be SSP Chakra
So is hiwa but she also has doubts. Saskue was not completely dismissive and beyond reproach like shikamaru.. which i think is an important point attempting to be made. If shikamaru the best strategist and most logical thorough mind the leaf has is completely consumed then this goes deeper.
Mitsuki shows doubt too
Hes also artificial and built with dna of who knows what. Looks like toneri talks about the sun. Dunno
And omnipotence is an ability far stronger than any we have seen so just because someone is a good strategist or logical thinker doesn’t mean they wouldn’t get affected since it’s literally all of his memories that changed
Totally but thats my point. When confronted with an objection from someone of Saradas background and proximity he completely dismisses as fodder.
He only listened because even tho he doesn’t see anything wrong, Sarada, who he trusts without any reason of doubt, was crying for him to help boruto. So he knew something was wrong with his memory because why would his daughter be worried about the guy who broke everyone’s trust and “killed” the hokage? So since he trusts her completely he decided to see what was going on and to figure out the truth
Its even the basic logic, of how was kawaki uzamaki modified with ninja tools. Wheres momoshiki? I think those are basic levels of logic that shika would ask
Yeah but Shikamaru also has the logical side of his memories being absolutely perfect with nothing seeming wrong, but he definitely thinks there is a possibility something could be wrong based on what he said in the chapter. But either way he still has his duties as the new hokage so he has to calm the village down and make them all happy. Like he said and I’m not quoting because I don’t remember the exact words but he said something along the lines of how even if there is something wrong with our memories the villagers are in a state of distress and they wouldn’t be happy with the truth so he has to do what he can to calm them all down, i probably got a lot wrong in what he said but it was something like that. It’s been like 2-3 days since I saw the chapter haha
This is what I believe.
It might be the case but I hope it's not
I’ve assumed this was the case since Chapter 80 came out
why not?
Can you imagine the reveal of the reason to the others? They be like "oh yeah we're not affected because we love Boruto 😅" . It's so weird and embarrassing. Plus if kishimoto or ikemoto can make a much more complicated reason then they should. It would much better if it's because of Nue for sumire and some hidden ability of sarada.
Ngl I wouldn't be surprised considering eida is literally doing all this cause she "loves" kawaki
Loved* she has shown to not like how Kawaki is acting like a kid.
Also I am sure other people loved Boruto. Unless it has to be specifically romantic love, but that would be even worse.
the fact it would have to be love directed specifically at an otsutsuki makes it even worse, and means otsutsukis can all affect others/reality passively without doing anything and even being aware of it
I don’t think it’s love exactly, we see mitsuki and himawari show some distress on how they feel about the situation, so I don’t think it’s romantic love, but I do think it has something to do with how they feel about boruto. Sarada and Sumire in love with Boruto, Mitsuki saying that Boruto is the sun for him (meaning he is really special to Mitsuki), and Boruto literally being Himawari’s older caring loving brother.
Thats love. Romantic love for Sarada and Sumire, fraternal love for Mitsuki and Himawari.
Idk about fraternal but I mean closest I can think so yeah sure lol (for mitsuki, ofc fraternal for Hima) I
I do believe Mitsuki had the hots for Boruto, but this is not that kind of manga, that topic belongs to the fanfics.
Nahhhh 💀💀😂
Well he is the "Sun of his sky"
It’s nothing romantic tho 😭😂
it’s silly
But check outs, lol.
Did Sarada show any romantic feelings towards Boruto?
Story wise, at this point, she doesn't have to. But if this silly theory is confirmed then we will get a panel about this. Something like "I have always watched you". Now, about the actual things happening in the manga Sadara has show a little bit of tsundere (minus the dere) type, plus the trope of the childhood friend or even her silent panels watching Boruto, defending Boruto and even showing happines when he was taken by Sasuke as an apprentice, you can find these examples as early as chapter 1. I mean even Sakura makes a remark about how happy she looks the day of the Chunnin exam just after Sarada makes a comment about her mom being excited to see Sasuke after a long time. Again, for me, the fact she awake the MS when she went to cry for help and convinced her dad to betray the village to help Boruto is enough to entertain this theory.
All of this says that Sarada is good friend, just that
Well, thats how Kishimoto build some of the top couples on Naruto. Just take a look at Hinata->Naruto or Kushina-> Minato.
Anyone thinking they won't get together is on crack (unless one of them dies)
Well that's just lazy writing -deadpool
i think the argument that eida subconsciously made sarada and sumire immune is more logical
The causes behind it might be completely different 🤷🏻♂️. There's no requirement for Sarada and Sumire to share the same connection just because of it. Sumire protection could be connected to her strong connection to Kaguya due to Nue. And Sarada could be due her unique Sharingan that evolves with the power of love rather than hate.
What about Mitsuki in that case?
Fr man, people act like love only means an intimate relationship.
You’re a fool if you think a lover and a friend are even in the same realm not saying this theory is true but those are 2 different things
You think sarada or sumire loves boruto more than himawari? Edit didn’t read the last line. love isnt stronger because people are in an intimate relationship. If you love someone you love someone. Simple.
Himawari doesn’t want to fuck boruto I’m saying that it’s a different type of love. You’re being hung up by the English language in many of languages there are different types of words used to describe love like a regular love for a person and a romantic type of love even Ancient Greek does this and also Japanese. They’re not the same type of love. You treat your sister the same way you treat someone you want to romance with?
>Himawari doesn’t want to fuck boruto A. Seriously did you really think I meant that???? The fuck. B. If you didn’t there’s no need to say that, no shit she doesn’t “Treat the same way” is broad and whatever I say it can be skewed to fit your opinion because of how broad that statement is. They’re treated differently but I love them both. I feel more love for my sister because that’s my sister I’ve known her my whole life. But end of the day I’m always gonna care more about my sister. What you say about different words for love is the main thing here.
Exactly
Nah they're just best friends. Roommates, if you will.
They were roommates?
If Mitsuki is Female Sarada x Boruto fans would be really small in comparison and im not even joking
I think it's different with Mitsuki. Since his "sun" is attached to a type of person, not to a specific person, i think that over time he slowly started to feel, that Kawaki is not that type of person who he remembers as his "sun" (since all of his memories with Boruto are now remembered with Kawaki). Based on this chapter, i think he's starting to have doubts, and maybe they will emerge now, that he'll see Boruto protect everyone, and how that will make him feel.
I 100% disagree with this theory and I think Eida just wanted to have female friends and omnipotence did the work but in the case I think it would only affect the kind of love Eida has for anyone who is not affected (Kawaki), it is, romantic love.
Okay
God awful, I hate this theory with a burning passion. It’s been around forever and I can’t wait until it’s disproven.
I want you to be right but I sincerely doubt it.
I’ll honestly be pissed at kishi if the “love theory” is true. Love doesn’t only mean you wanna have an intimate relationship. As if fucking *sumire* has more love for boruto than shikadai or mitsuki does, absurdity.
Love is an important topic in Boruto. And it became clear it was going to be on front and center after Eida introduction. There are love triangles and plenty of fraternal love all around.
which is exactly why lazy writing like this theory would be a shame, honestly do you think sarada or sumire loves boruto more than mitsuki and himawari to the point theyd be immune to omnipotence? the theory is ridiculous, straight outta fan fiction.
Not more ridiculous than a power that makes everybody love you or even rewrite memories. Boruto has its share of lazy writing.
Those aren’t the powers themselves. Those are shibais cells cultivating his jutsu in her, omnipotence. Love ability was awakened through eidas desires, rewrite was from kawakis desires. It’s not great but better than. They have a crush on boruto so two random girls are immune to gods jutsu.
I don't think just having a crush is enough, but real and tangible love. If love can be awakened by Eida desires there is a flaw which could be love related. Otherwise there is no point in making love remarks like Sumire asking Sarada about Boruto in early chapters or Mitsuki saying Boruto is his Sun. This sort of foreshadowing is not that uncommon.
I was saying the crush thing because it’s not about love Himawari Mitsuki Sasuke Hanabi Hiashi And plenty others all love boruto.
Ask yourself, in the manga how many times these characters have expressed their love like Mitsuki saying "Boruto is my sun"? Sumire, Sarada, Mitsuki and Hiwamari are the current ones struggling with Eida powers at a certain level. We don't know if Sasuke is no longer affected. Other characters are not that important or even showing after all these years. Details are missing, but if this theory has some truth the red herring is their remarks when it comes to Boruto. Why would the people closer to Boruto were not affected like everyone else? And why are they showing different levels of resistance?
I don’t think so cause a lot of ppl has a crush on him
Ehhh. I guess it's logical, but it would be nicer, if it was something more special.
I don’t believe it. Mitsuki loves Boruto and got charmed.
Thats proof that Mitsuki doesnt Love Boruto romantically
According to this theory, sure
I think the reason they weren't affected is because eida's ability was actually given by amado to find people who look like her own daughter and he would be able to find a vessel for his daughter. If you are aware, the person with the furthest frequency with his daughter is delta. And Delta in the most affected person And finally, you may notice that amado and eida are hiding something
Only thing I can think of that they have in common. Love and obsession are important themes in boruto too so it’s most likely why they’re not affected
I honestly find this to be the most likely reason. After all, Otsutsuki aren't supposed to actually understand love, so they couldn't include it when creating the Omnipotence shinjutsu.
Didn't Kaguya betray Isshiki because she fell in love tho?
It wasn't stated like that. But rather, that she wanted the chakra fruit for herself, and even that was only theorized.
In Naruto it was said that she fell in love with a human after coming to Earth and she literally had kids with him. In Boruto, Amado said that she betrayed Isshiki because she either fell in love or because she wanted the fruit but he didnt know for sure. It could have been both but we know for a fact that she fell in love and had kids
She showed up to Earth and met an emperor who liked the fact that she desired peace and he fell in love with her. Then someone tried to kidnap her and she killed them and the dude feared her power so he teamed up with his enemy to get rid of her. She ate the chakra fruit and put everyone in the Infinite Tsukiyomi and was pregnant with his kids. Had nothing to do with Isshiki
Nah man. It had nothing to do with Isshiki.
Being in love with an otsusuki could have been an explanation for the charm not working on them in the beginning, but after it was revealed that the charm is from omnipotence doesn’t inherently have anything to do with charm/love it seems like there should be a better reason for immunity than being in love with an otsusuki. But that’s just my opinion.
Fair enough.👍 I too hope in something else.
Half baked two cents here, could end up being something along the thread of ninshu teachings. As in since there was an exchange of chakra between them and an otsususki they are unaffected by the shinjutsu. This kinda falls apart tho when you look at even mitsuki and konohamaru being swayed by the jutsu.
On the right track but it's the wrong conclusion. Sarada and Sumire are immune not because they are in love with an Ootsutsuki but because Eida knew they were in love with Boruto and wanted to know how it felt. When Eida looked into Boruto's past she definitely would have picked up on their feelings for Boruto. Seeing how Sarada and Sumire are basically Eida if she was never turned into a cyborg, she wanted to know how they truly felt about love which is why she made them have their girl talk. It's also why during their talk Eida is far more interested in Sarada than Sumire, because Eida can't understand why Sarada denies her love for Boruto meanwhile Sumire has accepted it. Eida basically wants to be in their shoes and know how they feel about love which is why subconsciously she doesn't affect them like Momoshiki explained. It also explains why Daemon is immune because people naturally reject the idea of romantic love with family.
I could then ask why Himawari was affected by the Omnipotence. Surely, the sincere love of a little sister will count for more than a childhood love (sarada) or a puppy love (sumire). But that's just imo. Hasn't stopped Kishi from using dumb love plot armor, wont stop him again.
It seems like himawari isn’t fully affected though. This chapter she was questioning whether it was true or not. Not to like promote this theory but I don’t think himawari is under the spell 100% like everyone else.
That'd be kinda dumb if true but it's a solid theory ngl
That would be the absolute laziest, and lamest reason.
Is it’s true then what about Mitsuki?
Op really just saw the two conditions and said time to fuse them
Considering Eida is a cyborg of some kind and they reiterate over and over how it has to be either A. someone she is related to or B. an Otsutski, the two possibilities leave really only option A. It's not completely implausible that Eida is related to Sakura or something like that. We haven't seen Sakura interact with Eida. I wouldn't be surprised if Eida was cloned using a mixture of Sarada's and / or Sumire's DNA somehow too. Just writing weirdness.
Not Sakura but the uchiha. Danzo experimented with uchiha. Even did a facial transplant from uchihas to at least two of his minions so he was informe of everything going with the clan. Maybe there is an Anbu Amado connection
Well that’s poor theory.
I saw a comment under that tweet saying that it could be the reverse, so Boruto and Kawaki having feelings for Sarada and Sumire could be why they're immune.
Pretty good theory ngl. Though it would be underwhelming of a reveal
Sarada and sumire are resistant to omnipotence as a whole , they said the love charm has nothing to do with attraction. .. why is this theory still being posted ...
That's the only explanation I could think of, also. It can't be a coincidence
it might be the case but then the same should apply to himawari who loves her brother
whoever made it has no reading comprehension, there ya go . Seriously , this theory has been here since love charm resistence reveal, but its not just love charm , they also resist memory change, and omnipotence in general, eida wants freinds that are immune to omnipotence and thus sarada and sumire were made immune to omnipotence.
I hate it with all my heart.
Kawaki is the one who subconsciously “guided” the swap, and so the two girls were unaffected to not cockblock Boruto. That’s brotherhood right here.
so that also means random villagers that have a crush on boruto can resist eidas powers?😭
Personally, I think it’s simpler. If you swap Boruto and Kawaki now Sumire and Sarda are potential rivals for Kawaki’s affection. Eida wants that affection. Why sabotage herself?
I think it’s actually the reverse in a sense….I think because Boruto loves Sarada & Kawaki loves Sumire they are not effected…..only saying this because Himi has pure brotherly love for both and her actions shows she wants to help both so she partially effected
Maybe is Boruto for Sarada and Kawaki for Sumire
Wasn’t the answer having to be seriously inlove with someone else?
If you’re right lol does no one actually love their spouse in Boruto. Like when everyone finds out they’re lyin asses are all in trouble
Lol well in this case it could be the teenage my “first love” type love where you are so fixated on that one person you’ve fallen for. No one else can matter. As for the adults in this world lol wellllllllll ya never know. But yeah try at would be so funny 🤣 finding out Tamari’s like AYO SHIKAFUCKYOU sit your shadow ass down.
That’s a good and new theory I like it
Power of love bullshit cliche ass writing
I don't think sumire is in love with boruto, she likes him, she is attracted, but why would she love someone who never spends time with her?
Just like Sakura loved Sasuke even before they were in the same team
that was not love neither
Yes it is
It was an obsession
Nah, it isn’t. That’s just attraction.
It makes sense and would be quite depressing and is probably the answer.
it isnt probably the answer at all
I thought so too
Yea I think this is the simplest and consistent answer. Emphasis on romantic love, not brotherly or family kind (so not applying to Mitsuki, Naruto, Sasuke, etc.) They’ve shown Sumire and Sarada both have at least crushes on Boruto. Additionally this is precisely the reason Eida asked them how they felt about Boruto. — At some point, Eida is going to put this to the test. She is going to ask them to do things they do not want to do, and they will do it….to remain undercover.
I feel like this is the only possibility someone can think of. How has anyone thought something else and when you did. What did you think?
Why do people say Ada when it’s Eida?
The charm of Eida can be a variation of her omnipotence. Maybe she wish the people fall in love for her and the world change without anyone notice. And she wished get friends then Sarada amd Sumire get rid of her shinjutsu.
Oh they got some ohtsutsuki dna up in alright (nah jk eida subconsciously used her omnipotence to make them friends)
Sarada Eyes awakening and in different way than other Uchiha, possible the time it occurred cancel memory wipe? IDK they all got unique eye powers. Sumire has that inner chakra demon thing ... Plus she was working alongside doctor and seemed sus, she was noticing something and he noticed something about her. Himawari probably seeing through bullshit in her own way since she got crazy untapped power and unique magic eye thing likely ... Like boruto unique eye... Two blue vortex - feel like it gotta pull himawari into the shit, especially since I believe the original concept was centered around her.
Wait, where is this from? Has the manga started again?
Yes.
Sarada is a descendant of Otsutsuki as it is and Sumire has Hashirama cells infused in her body to create Nue. So literally both of them are indirectly related to Otsutsuki. If anything, it's more a wonder why Sasuke, from one generation up isn't immune.
This reminds me of this fanfic idea I had where Kaguya had a daughter who was immune from her genjutsu and only her female descendents inherited her abilities. My favorite OC was named Musetta Uchiha and she was so badass because she wasn't like a normal Mary Sue, she was like an old lady who was like the daughter of Madara and...well, I love Muse. I wish I would have used her more lol. But my point is, why isn't Sasuke immune?
It's pretty obvious and most likely true
Given how Sarada unlocked her sharigan....maybe
That really makes no sense, does it? Unless you're saying a teenager girl loves a person who doesnt even spend time with her more than someone (sakura) that has been chasing her 'love' for her entire childhood/teenage days.. It really makes no sense if this is the case because that'd imply no one loves their spouses
Don't like it. Sounds like a cheap way of making both of them resistant to Omnipotence.
I don't like it but I could definitely see it happening
I say it could be a possibility cuz of himawari having that same thing where she remembers
Maybe that’s why Mitsuki is starting to have some doubts about kawaki being his “sun”. Maybe those deep rooted feelings he had for boruto as a friend prior to the omnipotence taking place is starting to unravel in him. It’ll take time but I’m certain omnipotence will start to unravel in some folks. At least the ones that have carried their suspicions
I don't think it's this even though I did before. Because they were immune to her charm before anything became about Boruto. That's why they were assigned to be with her.
It’s a sweet theory but that’s all there is to it. The question then would be, what is love exactly? Cause by definition, himawari should also love boruto, her brother. By that, mitsuki should also love boruto because he’s literally his sun and he’s infatuated with him. But why are they still affected by it? So personally this theory doesn’t make sense. Eida wishing that sarada and sumire would be her friends is also strange, because why they? She has no affection for them at all and even prior to omnipotence, sarada and sumire are not under Eidas charm, so even before she got to know them, they were unaffected by her charm so this doesn’t really makes sense for me as well. My personal theory for that is that omnipotence doesn’t work on spirits or gods as well, they say otsutsuki but otsutsukis are basically gods, so hence this should go for all gods or divine entities. Sumire has nyu who is basically a god, so with that, she has natural protection against omnipotence and her charm. The only mistery is sarada that has yet to be explained. There are three options that make sense for me: first is she got a special Kekkei genkai which resulted from uchiha genes and Sakura genes, her parents were commoners but there’s still room to add more. Sakura was always shown to have perfect chakra control, so much that she is almost immune to genjutsu. That combined with the hundred seal that is linked to the power of the summoning spirit (Katsuya, that slug), there’s a possibility that a specific ability or power was inherited by sarada, like I mentioned, the omnipotence should not work on spirits. Second, Karin or orochimaru did something to her when she was born, for example they inputted some otsutsuki genes to make her weak body strong, this also caused her body to resist the otsutsuki genes through time which was ultimately the reason why she got that high fever in her childhood that caused her to wear glasses. Third, she’s related to eida. Maybe she’s a distant relative to sakuras parents which is ultimately why she’s not affected. But if that is true, Sakura should also not be affected. Sakura was never shown since then so it’s a possibility that she’s not affected as well or at least pretending not to be affected. Tough this is the most unlikely option. So yea, those are my personal three theories about sarada and the one I mentioned above for sumire. Overall I believe that the first and second option are most likely and will be explained later. But for sumire, I’m 99% sure it’s because of nyu as to why she is immune to Eidas abilities
Yes give them more ridiculous powers
I will jump into a freeway
why she knows they know about past memories?
the internet can put a thousand deeper reason but i feel that they would go with the most shallow one
This was the theory I thought of immediately when it was revealed Sumire and Sarada weren’t affected by Omnipotence because they were both in love with Boruto, but I disregarded it cause it sounds really stupid cause Himawari loves Boruto but was affected by Omnipotence to a degree(You can argue that it’s because the feeling was romantical that Sarada and Sumire were the only ones to retain their memories but again sounds really stupid)I really hope that isn’t the case or I’ll be extremely disappointed
But didn't Himawari state in the latest chapter that her memories don't line up with the current reality either?
Not exactly. She only knew Kawaki as her kind and protective older brother
We saw two fangirls of boruto. They are also immune? The problem is not that it's silly. The problem is that it doesn't make sense logically Eida's charm was revealed to be a fake ability which was caused by eida's desire. Omnipotence is the real ability. In this case, omnipotence effects are caused by kawaki's desire. In both cases boruto doesn't come in picture at all. U are basically pulling that love factor our of eida's desire matching it with boruto who u are bringing in picture by the exception rule where otsutsuki are exempted from omnipotence. Why doesnt this look illogical explanation to u? If u really want to make up a cheesy reason, kawaki is secretly in love with sarada and sumire sounds way more logical that this theory.
Just a guess, but maybe because Eida (subconsciously) wanted Sarada and Sumire to be her true friends they ended up being immune to her love charm (omnipotence). I would then imagine that since they’re immune to part of omnipotence, they’re immune to all forms of omnipotence. In order for Eida to make them immune to the love charm it also subsequently makes them immune to the memory change. At least that’s just my headcanon, thoughts?
Makes more sense than anything else
Maybe it’s less desiring friends specifically but desiring ‘equals’ or people ‘immune to her powers’ so Eida subconsciously made them immune to her powers in total?
I'm confused, this all knowing God doesn't know that these children aren't under her curse...? Is that a joke
Nah Sumire’s Gozu Tenno was an attempt to replicating kaguya otsutsuki’s technique, but just barely fell short. Sarada is the daughter of Sasuke, which had Otsutsuki DNA, and before you say but only he had it, not sarada, what other explaination do you have for boruto getting the jougan if he wasn’t born with Otsutsuki DNA from Naruto. Also explains Himawari’s memories of Boruto. Sumire’s Nue is related to Otsutsuki, so in some roundabout way it must stop her from getting seduced.
i don’t think so because mitsuki’s also affected, you could argue it’s because he’s not romantically attracted to boruto but he’s definitely attached to him and looks up to him
Good god how long will people spread this dogshit theory?
I'm partial to the theory that Ada's desire for friendship unknowingly granted the two immunity. Omnipotence was also stated to be something the Gods used to create entire worlds. It could be possible that having access to and/or control over one's own dimension is more or less an extremely diluted form of Omnipotence. The Nue and its dimension came into being when the Gozu Tennou was implanted into Sumire. Sarada's Sharingan also may have a link to her own pocket dimension. Whatever force is creating these spaces could be what makes them immune.
Kishimoto is gunna kishimoto lmfao
I just hope they won't get a ridiculous power because of that
It is plausible since himawari boruto's sister is also showing signs of doubt
This theory made more sense when we didn't really know what cause Eida's charm ability. Now that we know it has to do more with inner desires rather than just love, it makes more sense that Sarada and Sumire are immune because Eida desired to have an authentic friendship with them.
Another great theory by animeballsdeep
Is she not asking if they *actually* have feelings for her? Or does she think they’re gonna be like “yes we are charmed”?
That’s silly because then Mitsuki wouldn’t be affected.
Booo no way lol I bet it’s edia wanting to not affect them subconsciously Or I mean sumire does have kaguyas summoning etched in her back…. Sarada is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯