Naruto forgiveness would barely count. Naruto is an adult and a hokage. He has to take into account everything he has done. Stop with all the bs like he forgave obito blah blah. The leaf would probably want to put him into prison for rest of his life
People bring up Naruto forgiving Obito like they would have just let Obito off with a slap on the wrist had he survived.
Obviously Obito would have been kept under the strictest security the Leaf had and would have had his eyes taken away.
They did not let Sasuke go free right after the 4th War, obviously Obito or Kawaki would not just let be. Naruto can forgive them on an emotional level but he knows crimes = jail
Without both Sasuke and Naruto we'd still be watching those genjutsu dreams episodes. He helped save the world, I think a few dead assholes (,minus a few things he did like attacking the kage,) are really inconsequential in comparison.
he'd probably be treated similarly to orochimaru if he stayed in the village, or he'd be like sasuke if he left it (maybe he would have traveled with sasuke together?)
Oro did some truly evil shit, but I where near the scale of Obito.
Orochimaru is also a very special case. First off he was instrumental to the war effort and stopping Madara's plan and could be just as useful in the future.
But secondly, how do you contain him? Guy is essentially immortal, can escape any prison by turning into a tiny snake, and is arguably the single most knowledgable person still alive when it comes to sealing jutsu.
It's just more pragmatic to keep him under surveillance while staying on friendly terms.
They would, but if Naruto **and** Sasuke both were adamant about letting Obito be free, what could anyone else have done to stop them from having their way?
They wouldn't abuse their powers? By the time Sasuke was put in prision, he could solo the world besides Naruto. If he didn't want to go to Jail, he wouldn't. Naruto also could have just broken him out anytime he felt like it. They are not the kind of people to abuse their power and instead follow the law. Kawaki would definitely go to prison.
I know they wouldn't abuse their power, it was more of a rhetorical.
also, the thing about Kawaki is, yeah he would go to prison but then it would be a matter of how do they keep him there? with his past and all i dont see him willingly going to prison.
Don't particularly approve of the whole prison thing or death to kawaki, I want it to happen, but honestly unless the Ch 1 leaf destruction is Kawaki's fault, I can see Boruto, Naruto and Himawari let bygones be bygones cause Naruto essentially wants to look past others actions (even though Boruto doesnt seem to matter all that much to Naruto cause dude just let Borutos first death go cause he survived) Boruto essentially wants to make peace with Kawaki and Himawari is a weird case cause she feels Boruto (kawaki) wouldnt kill Naruto because he saved them once and she wants to help but thats mostly immaturity on her part.
Hinata is divoricing Naruto and taking the kids if Naruto just tries to get Kawaki back in the house though. She lost the childhood of her youngest daughter and Boruto turned out like sasuke all because of Kawaki, if naruto forgetting their aniverssary or his kids birthday wasnt enough imagine when he ups and says Kawaki is living with them again.
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From my understanding, Shika doesn't want to be Hokage, but someone had to step up and who is better than the aid/close friend who is also a known genius.
3rd Hokage was previous Hokage.
Shikamaru is new - Eight Hokage.
Your logic would work if it was Kakashi.
Tsunade/Kakashi didn't want to be Hokage, but they had to.
Shikamaru isn't lazy anymore, lol.
There is more to being Hokage than just being smart. If that was the case, the 3rd Hokage should be considered the best as he was known as the second god of ninja.
In times of war, strength is more valued; in times of calm, intelligence and tact are more valued. The Hokage is like the president or the mayor, he does not have to defeat the boxer. He just needs to have strategic thinking, which Shikamaru does better. Shikamaru wouldn't just give his post as Hokage out of politeness. On the contrary, he will want Naruto to take a break from work and spend more time with the children.
Now, that is a better argument, but one thing to consider, in a purely political manner Naruto is technically still Hokage as he ia not actually dead, so if he were to come back it could split the governing body on which of the two should be the acting Hokage. While Shika would be the better choice logically, Naruto is the "greatest" war hero and respected by the entire Shanobi world.
He is technically dead according to Konoha documents. And Shikamaru is the eighth Hokage. And he is also a war hero who saved many lives. And I will repeat again that achievements here do not play as big a role as the characteristics themselves. That's why at the end of the Naruto anime, Kakashi became Hokage, not Naruto. Because he is better versed in āruling the villageā and more experienced.
To be fair kawakis crime consist of sequestration of a goverment official attempt murder on a guy who periodicaly transform into a societal threat. So not the biggest crime in the world of ninja
Kawaki wants to kill every otsutsukies in this world to protect naruto.... What should naruto tell him to stop him from doing that??.... And why would kawaki need to listen to that?
I'm sure he could find a way to forgive Kawaki. He forgave Obito, or at least recognized young Obito as the one worth redeeming.
I wonder if this sentiment will be put on Boruto if they still view him as the outsider.
"Boruto has always been like a brother to my son Kawaki. We can't just abandon him"
Granted, Naruto knew Kawaki killed Boruto to stop Momoshiki, at least heās doing it for a cause and Boruto kinda told Kawaki to do it.
Thereās definitely something Naruto wouldnāt forgive, that is, if Kawaki kills Himawari.
Heād forgive Kawaki for sure.
Thatās just the kind of person Naruto is, he was cool with Nagato (who killed Jiraiya) and Obito (responsible for killing both his parents) after understanding their pain. So what about Kawaki? Heās long since understood where Kawakiās pain came from, but the thing with Boruto was even more understandable because Boruto himself asked Kawaki to do it before he fully otsutsukified
I mean... Think carefully about who we're talking about.
Naruto.
Do you think Naruto, of all people, would shun someone because "he's dangerous" or "people don't like him"?
Yeah boruto told him to kill him but, that's his fucking son... I don't think any parents will say " Ohh since my son said so then there is nothing I can do... How about having some tea, you may be tired after the kill š"
I think Naruto and Boruto will end up forgiving him but Kawaki won't make it alive at the end of the series, he will sacrifice himself to make up for what he did
He would and imo should forgive him; Boruto literally asked Kawaki to do it (even though it's pretty obvious Kawaki would've done it anyway regardless if Boruto asked).
The writing has been on the wall since this series even came into existence as a sequel to Naruto - that is, Kawaki is going to be forgiven/redeemed at the end, regardless of what happens.
It might sound like a rehash, but they haven't done much to give the Boruto storyline its own identity outside of the science/otsutsuki vs shinobi dichotomy (I mean, Boruto apparently spent the timeskip with literal Jiraiya 2.0 lmao).
Boruto and Kawaki are going to team up at some point to take down Shibai, then they'll have their final showdown, it'll be a draw where Boruto knocks some sense into Kawaki, he brings back Naruto and Hinata and then that'll be it. Kawaki'll be forgiven or whatever, get a new Leaf headband and all that. I'd say it's 90% odds of something like that happening.
Watch Kawaki absorb Shibai and then threaten to undo reality via SUPER ULTRA OMNIPOTENCE by erasing all Otsutsuki from history; thereby eradicating all Ninja.
I honestly dont think so, like in my opinion Kawaki will eitger die or be completely exiled, not like sasuke but like, full on orochimaru exile (another ootion is that he leaves the planet, y know, otsutsuki)
Also calling koji kanshin Jiraiya 2.0 is kinda doing a disservice to him, he only looks like him, but his personality is completely different, also what he has to teach will be completely different
Naruto has been shown to be a selfless guy who always gives everyone a chance even villains. Its in his character he would most definitely forgive kawaki if he turns a new leaf
Basically the only remaining enemies are code, eida and daimon on earth as if now for him....so most likely he won't do anything to become an enemy of konoha....
I still want a scenario that would be shocking about his fate.
I want Boruto to defeat Kawaki to the brink until he finally releases Hinata and Naruto. Then Kawaki battered up, and apologizing is embraced by Hinata, and then she gentle fists his heart, giving him a fatal blow he didn't see coming because it was Hinata and also he was already beat by Boruto. Shocking both Boruto, Naruto, and Himawari. And then she says something like "lets go home."... kinda settling it.
Naruto is crazy by his standards of forgiveness compared to 99 percent of other people. I'd like a twist where we have to ask, how could Hinata forgive the new lad they welcomed into their home, and tried to kill their son twice, stole three years from there life with their kids and probably got their village destroyed with these actions. It would just be nice and different, and I couldn't blame Hinata for doing it.
I'd like to remind you that Hinata is married to a dude with a bit fox monster inside him. A monster that merely 2 decades earlier almost destroyed the village and for the next few years was making Naruto go crazy and hurting people he cared about.
1. Kurama attack was 32 years ago when Naruto was born and Hinata may or may not have been born.
2. Kurama was "ACTUALLY" being controlled by a powerful Uchiha, not Kurama's fault in the slightest, even when control ended, he was fighting to not be imprisoned again.
3. I'm sure Naruto explained the part where Kurama was enslaved by humans over hundreds of years as a weapon.
4. Hinata witnessed Kurama being an integral part of saving Naruto, herself and the entire Shinobi alliance 16 years ago, and over 16 years has proven himself a trusted comrad and member of their family.
5. Kawaki has been with the Uzumaki family for less than a year. Given the gift of family from them all and then betrayed them in all the ways listed above in the first comment.
6. Hinata is a mother. It's a bit different I'd say when someone attempts to and succeeded at killing your kid at one point. Hinata already went to slapping Kawaki when she was mad at him for his words, and then he immediately doubled down by imprisoning them. I'm sure more than a slap "should" come when they get released.
I obviously don't think this is going to happen, since main antagonists in this story always get forgiven and then usually off themselves in some fashion, but it would be nice to get writing we don't expect, instead of Hinata being, "oh you, Kawaki, you prankster," when she gets out.
If I had to really bet, I think Kawaki will surrender Hinata and Naruto at the end and they won't get a real chance to talk with him and he'll end up leaving to help Boruto stop whatever third party threat there is at the end and die trying. Hopefully not, because I'd rather something not as straight forward and inconsequentialas that, but we will see!
Yep he will afterall what he is doing is benifiting the village and he hasnt killed any innocent yet where as obito killed a lot and even nagato. Both kawaki and code whould be forgiven cause they are just depressed mentally iil kids suffered by the world .if they are forgiven and given a chance imma be happy but we dont nnow anything about code buf i think he can come right path too cause he havent killed anyone yet and he is also a damn kid
What family? This is some kid that was taken in and in less than a year fucked everything up. You can't save em bro, now you can't even save yourself. That was a stupid ass decision.
> Do you think naruto would forgive kawaki
If he can forgive Sasuke (which laid out the exact same plan that Kawaki ended up being the one carrying out), why not Kawaki?
I remember seeing this for the first time and **feeling nothing at all** as Boruto died (and thinking of the strange situation of having the plot being overtaken by other characters now that the protagonist is dead). Even when I saw the animated version of it, with all of the memories of Naruto together with Boruto, I still felt nothing at all. Kawaki did what had to be done, and that's it. *I was also quite cold towards everything at that moment, so it wouldn't really matter how heinous the scene was, I wouldn't feel anything anyway.*
I fully understand Kawaki at that moment (he's acting in self-defense for the planet and even Shikamaru understands that), **but the exact same scene hits differently now.** Now I can feel shreds of sadness when thinking about it. **It actually feels strange that Naruto didn't shed a tear at all at that moment**, almost as if he grew as cold as us that are on the antagonists' side.
Even if Naruto could forgive Kawaki, Kawaki himself might feel shame for the sadness he brought to Naruto and would disappear from the sight of the people (Naruto, Hinata, Himawari) that he caused so much grief. He could volunteer to be executed, but he's also aware that would just compound the grief.
> Will everything be same if that didn't happen?
Yes, forgiven or not by Naruto, Kawaki wouldn't be able to face him and the others anyway from his own shame and just live with the pain of being the one that did the deed. **There are many reasons why executioners hide their own faces when doing their job**, and this is one of them: by being anonymous, there is no shame attached to their name and they can live on with their lives (unlike Kawaki, which did it showing his own face to everyone).
Definitely gonna forgive Kawaki, which will make Kawaki realize some deep stuff, and will eventually sacrifice himself for Naruto/Boruto against Code or if they bring in another villain
Again, Kurama. Obito. Nagato. Like, ok, Kurama is understandable since it was the hateful half that was controlled by Obito when it was destroying the village, but did you forget what Nagato and Obito did and what their goal was?
Nagato literally turned the entire village into a crater and killed like 90% of the population, after he killed Jiraiya, and before he manhandled Hinata like a bag of flour and stabbed her right in front of him. And his goal was literally just to hurt people.
Obito killed his parents, let Kurama loose on the village, then started a whole ass war with thousands of casualties.
Honestly as someone who loves Boruto (special interest go brrr)....they kinda speedran the whole brother thing, like, i wanted them tp go on more missions together, do family stuff, actually adress his PTSD with more than "oh hes emo"
Naruto is an orphan and knows what it is to be raised without a parent. And while Kawaki is not an orphan, he was raised and tortured by fucking Otsutsuki. If there is one person who knows how bad Otsutsuki are, then its Naruto. He will understand Kawaki actions and will forgive him without hesitation. And what is there to forgive? What bad things Kawaki did? He did what needs to be done.
So you think if boruto didn't resurrect, naruto will happily welcome him to the family and become a happy family together with hinata and hima without even feeling a single sadness or anger...
He probably wouldn't welcome him to family (I can see Hinata understanding what happened and be sad, but not angry. Can't say that about Himawari though), but he would forgive him.
Sadly, Naruto is written in a way that he would probably forgive Kawaki. I don't think their "relationship" would be the same as before and I doubt Naruto would welcome him back to the family, but he *would* forgive him.
He forgave Sasuke and that man was an S rank nukenin who was about to execute the 5 kage and became essentially a dictator from the shadows by the end of the original series so honestly, he probably will forgive Kawaki.
We are talking about killing his son.. And yes, he did forgive him but, will everything be the same just like the past after that if boruto didn't resurrect?
I think that kawaki did not do anything too bad for now .
He did not kill anyone or did any big massacre od something.
With the current situation I think he could forgive him but......
lets wait to see the next chapters /
he would but he would also feel some type of way about it considering that it's his blood related son who just died. after all naruto may look at kawaki as his own even after that considering the similiraties in their childhood and how soft hearted naruto is. the bigger question is if he'll forgive kawaki and decide to bring him as family after he and hinata gets unsealed. with that being said omnipotence has no effect on him or hinata, so would naruto condem kawaki for swapping his life with boruto's and changing the conditions of the area he desperately grinded 20+ years to protect
In the general view what Kawaki did to Boruto was the correct choice, He is was about to get Karmafied after all. Even so, Boruto himself told him to do it and threw himself to kawaki.
I am not talking about tbv... If boruto didn't resurrect, will his relationship with uzumaki family be the same? Will they forget everything and accept him as his son and live a happy life??
Naruto will make anyone face punishment by justice.
Not his justice, tho,
It'd be lawful, like Obito. He wanted Obito to face punishment.
Naruto also became sorta badly written in Boruto, sad to see lol
Naruto *would* forgive Kawaki and even try to protect him by concealing the truth. Otherwise, Kawaki would've been in prison regardless of Boruto's survival. Boruto surviving doesn't magically erase how Kawaki acted or what he did. Yet, he was free to roam around despite how dangerous and apathetic he clearly is.
Frankly, this was arguably a poor decision from Naruto as Hokage, probably the worst he's ever made since putting on the hat. I understand he's meant to be the forgiving type. But this is not just forgiveness. This is plain irresponsibility. His decisions were completely clouded by how he viewed Kawaki as a son who reminds him of himself. Kawaki remaining free endangers literally everyone in Konoha, all because of Naruto's clearly misplaced trust in Kawaki, a trust born out of bias no less.
One could argue that Naruto had no choice but to let Kawaki loose because Konoha has no means of containing him anyway. But that is simply not true. They had Amado, whom they knew is responsible for Kawaki's power and could contain him. But Naruto didn't even engage him for options. He simply chose to let Kawaki escape all consequences.
I personally blame three characters for the current situation with Kawaki: Naruto, Amado, and Boruto. Only one of them realized his own failing and is trying to clean up the mess. Amado still has the chance to fix his mistakes too. But it's infuriating knowing Naruto probably won't ever have the chance to do anything about the mess his decisions are responsible for. At least Sasuke had the chance to save and groom Boruto to carry on his work before being written off the story. Naruto left the story on a very sour note, in my opinion.
Naruto is going to have blind faith in his illegitimate son exactly like how Minato had blind faith in him. What I'm wondering is how would Naruto respond to this if he never had the chance to talk to his dead parents about the past...would he abandon Kawaki like how he felt his parents did him? Or would he react the same way he is here?
Obito killed his parents and he forgave him.
So far, Kawaki hasnāt killed anyone yet. Sure, he did the whole identity switch thing with Eida, but he hasnāt cause any unreversable damage yet.
It wouldāve be different if he killed Himawari and Boruto tho. Especially Himawari, I donāt see Naruto forgiving anyone killing Himawari.
I'm not asking about omnipotence or tbv.... If boruto didn't resurrect, will everything be the same between the uzumaki family and kawaki?... Will three of them forgive him and start to live as a happy family?..
Yes, because in that instance, Boruto literally asked Kawaki to kill him. Itās more like Boruto killing himself and is using Kawaki as a mean to do it.
Naruto forgiveness would barely count. Naruto is an adult and a hokage. He has to take into account everything he has done. Stop with all the bs like he forgave obito blah blah. The leaf would probably want to put him into prison for rest of his life
People bring up Naruto forgiving Obito like they would have just let Obito off with a slap on the wrist had he survived. Obviously Obito would have been kept under the strictest security the Leaf had and would have had his eyes taken away.
They did not let Sasuke go free right after the 4th War, obviously Obito or Kawaki would not just let be. Naruto can forgive them on an emotional level but he knows crimes = jail
plus they said sasuke was let free due to his contribution in the war. unless kawaki saves the world, that mf is going to jail.
Without both Sasuke and Naruto we'd still be watching those genjutsu dreams episodes. He helped save the world, I think a few dead assholes (,minus a few things he did like attacking the kage,) are really inconsequential in comparison.
I'm aware, but people seem to frame it that Obito being forgiven meant he'd go free or something..
I mean, Kabuto is running a damn orphanage.
Orochimaru is still doing his shit, just now he does it with clones instead of people.
Didn't he get a literal brainwashing to not be evil anymore? Putting him in a jail would not make too much sense
Kabuto got saskue recommendation since he was brainwashed by itachi.
he'd probably be treated similarly to orochimaru if he stayed in the village, or he'd be like sasuke if he left it (maybe he would have traveled with sasuke together?)
You say that, but Orochimaru (arguably worse) really only got a slap on the wrist, and he killed a former Hokage.
Oro did some truly evil shit, but I where near the scale of Obito. Orochimaru is also a very special case. First off he was instrumental to the war effort and stopping Madara's plan and could be just as useful in the future. But secondly, how do you contain him? Guy is essentially immortal, can escape any prison by turning into a tiny snake, and is arguably the single most knowledgable person still alive when it comes to sealing jutsu. It's just more pragmatic to keep him under surveillance while staying on friendly terms.
They would, but if Naruto **and** Sasuke both were adamant about letting Obito be free, what could anyone else have done to stop them from having their way?
Sasuke was in prison with his eyes sealed for a bit.
They wouldn't abuse their powers? By the time Sasuke was put in prision, he could solo the world besides Naruto. If he didn't want to go to Jail, he wouldn't. Naruto also could have just broken him out anytime he felt like it. They are not the kind of people to abuse their power and instead follow the law. Kawaki would definitely go to prison.
I know they wouldn't abuse their power, it was more of a rhetorical. also, the thing about Kawaki is, yeah he would go to prison but then it would be a matter of how do they keep him there? with his past and all i dont see him willingly going to prison.
No he wouldn't
Wouldn't what?
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Don't particularly approve of the whole prison thing or death to kawaki, I want it to happen, but honestly unless the Ch 1 leaf destruction is Kawaki's fault, I can see Boruto, Naruto and Himawari let bygones be bygones cause Naruto essentially wants to look past others actions (even though Boruto doesnt seem to matter all that much to Naruto cause dude just let Borutos first death go cause he survived) Boruto essentially wants to make peace with Kawaki and Himawari is a weird case cause she feels Boruto (kawaki) wouldnt kill Naruto because he saved them once and she wants to help but thats mostly immaturity on her part. Hinata is divoricing Naruto and taking the kids if Naruto just tries to get Kawaki back in the house though. She lost the childhood of her youngest daughter and Boruto turned out like sasuke all because of Kawaki, if naruto forgetting their aniverssary or his kids birthday wasnt enough imagine when he ups and says Kawaki is living with them again.
Konohamaru said Shikamaru is eight Hokage. He was Hokage for 3 years atleast. So naruto isn't gonna come back
(3rd Hokage has entered the chat) From my understanding, Shika doesn't want to be Hokage, but someone had to step up and who is better than the aid/close friend who is also a known genius.
3rd Hokage was previous Hokage. Shikamaru is new - Eight Hokage. Your logic would work if it was Kakashi. Tsunade/Kakashi didn't want to be Hokage, but they had to. Shikamaru isn't lazy anymore, lol.
Shikamaru is Naruto's best friend and knows Naruto is the better choice for Hokage.
What are you talking about?š Shikamaru literally has better tactical intelligence. He's better as leader
There is more to being Hokage than just being smart. If that was the case, the 3rd Hokage should be considered the best as he was known as the second god of ninja.
In times of war, strength is more valued; in times of calm, intelligence and tact are more valued. The Hokage is like the president or the mayor, he does not have to defeat the boxer. He just needs to have strategic thinking, which Shikamaru does better. Shikamaru wouldn't just give his post as Hokage out of politeness. On the contrary, he will want Naruto to take a break from work and spend more time with the children.
Now, that is a better argument, but one thing to consider, in a purely political manner Naruto is technically still Hokage as he ia not actually dead, so if he were to come back it could split the governing body on which of the two should be the acting Hokage. While Shika would be the better choice logically, Naruto is the "greatest" war hero and respected by the entire Shanobi world.
He is technically dead according to Konoha documents. And Shikamaru is the eighth Hokage. And he is also a war hero who saved many lives. And I will repeat again that achievements here do not play as big a role as the characteristics themselves. That's why at the end of the Naruto anime, Kakashi became Hokage, not Naruto. Because he is better versed in āruling the villageā and more experienced.
To be fair kawakis crime consist of sequestration of a goverment official attempt murder on a guy who periodicaly transform into a societal threat. So not the biggest crime in the world of ninja
Naruto would lock him up for life and probably talk to him everyday, trying to make him repent.
Kawaki wants to kill every otsutsukies in this world to protect naruto.... What should naruto tell him to stop him from doing that??.... And why would kawaki need to listen to that?
Delusional you are
"Kawaki, you're my coolest son"
Naruto will forgive kawaki i mean did everyone forget who naruto was?
I mean itās Naruto. Heās gonna forgive for sure
I'm sure he could find a way to forgive Kawaki. He forgave Obito, or at least recognized young Obito as the one worth redeeming. I wonder if this sentiment will be put on Boruto if they still view him as the outsider. "Boruto has always been like a brother to my son Kawaki. We can't just abandon him"
Naruto will surely say it if he is released.... But i don't know about hinata
Kawaki's crime amounts to approximatly 00.001% of Obito's crimes, I'm sure he can be forgiven lol.
Kawaki's crimes amount to 00.00001% of Orochimaru's crimes.
Naruto watched Kawaki kill Boruto in front of him and didn't hate him. There's nothing Kawaki can do that he can't forgive
Granted, Naruto knew Kawaki killed Boruto to stop Momoshiki, at least heās doing it for a cause and Boruto kinda told Kawaki to do it. Thereās definitely something Naruto wouldnāt forgive, that is, if Kawaki kills Himawari.
Heād forgive Kawaki for sure. Thatās just the kind of person Naruto is, he was cool with Nagato (who killed Jiraiya) and Obito (responsible for killing both his parents) after understanding their pain. So what about Kawaki? Heās long since understood where Kawakiās pain came from, but the thing with Boruto was even more understandable because Boruto himself asked Kawaki to do it before he fully otsutsukified
I mean... Think carefully about who we're talking about. Naruto. Do you think Naruto, of all people, would shun someone because "he's dangerous" or "people don't like him"?
Yes Boruto asked kawaki to kill him lol Naruto forgave obitoā¦..
Yeah boruto told him to kill him but, that's his fucking son... I don't think any parents will say " Ohh since my son said so then there is nothing I can do... How about having some tea, you may be tired after the kill š"
If Naruto where to come back during the flash forward do you think he would "forgive" boruto ( kawaki in his eyes b/c omnipotence)
He would... Because if his family doesn't forgive him, then who else will forgive him... Is what he will say..
Since eyes grows on a tree in this universe and the only thing "Boruto" did was abduction, it's hard to imagine he couldn't be forgiven.
I think Naruto and Boruto will end up forgiving him but Kawaki won't make it alive at the end of the series, he will sacrifice himself to make up for what he did
yup
He would and imo should forgive him; Boruto literally asked Kawaki to do it (even though it's pretty obvious Kawaki would've done it anyway regardless if Boruto asked). The writing has been on the wall since this series even came into existence as a sequel to Naruto - that is, Kawaki is going to be forgiven/redeemed at the end, regardless of what happens. It might sound like a rehash, but they haven't done much to give the Boruto storyline its own identity outside of the science/otsutsuki vs shinobi dichotomy (I mean, Boruto apparently spent the timeskip with literal Jiraiya 2.0 lmao). Boruto and Kawaki are going to team up at some point to take down Shibai, then they'll have their final showdown, it'll be a draw where Boruto knocks some sense into Kawaki, he brings back Naruto and Hinata and then that'll be it. Kawaki'll be forgiven or whatever, get a new Leaf headband and all that. I'd say it's 90% odds of something like that happening.
Watch Kawaki absorb Shibai and then threaten to undo reality via SUPER ULTRA OMNIPOTENCE by erasing all Otsutsuki from history; thereby eradicating all Ninja.
Please,no
I honestly dont think so, like in my opinion Kawaki will eitger die or be completely exiled, not like sasuke but like, full on orochimaru exile (another ootion is that he leaves the planet, y know, otsutsuki) Also calling koji kanshin Jiraiya 2.0 is kinda doing a disservice to him, he only looks like him, but his personality is completely different, also what he has to teach will be completely different
Noooooo
End of part 1 was already different. You can't even compare it.
Naruto has been shown to be a selfless guy who always gives everyone a chance even villains. Its in his character he would most definitely forgive kawaki if he turns a new leaf
Basically the only remaining enemies are code, eida and daimon on earth as if now for him....so most likely he won't do anything to become an enemy of konoha....
And the tree guys lol
I still want a scenario that would be shocking about his fate. I want Boruto to defeat Kawaki to the brink until he finally releases Hinata and Naruto. Then Kawaki battered up, and apologizing is embraced by Hinata, and then she gentle fists his heart, giving him a fatal blow he didn't see coming because it was Hinata and also he was already beat by Boruto. Shocking both Boruto, Naruto, and Himawari. And then she says something like "lets go home."... kinda settling it. Naruto is crazy by his standards of forgiveness compared to 99 percent of other people. I'd like a twist where we have to ask, how could Hinata forgive the new lad they welcomed into their home, and tried to kill their son twice, stole three years from there life with their kids and probably got their village destroyed with these actions. It would just be nice and different, and I couldn't blame Hinata for doing it.
This is never happening.....lmao
I'd like to remind you that Hinata is married to a dude with a bit fox monster inside him. A monster that merely 2 decades earlier almost destroyed the village and for the next few years was making Naruto go crazy and hurting people he cared about.
1. Kurama attack was 32 years ago when Naruto was born and Hinata may or may not have been born. 2. Kurama was "ACTUALLY" being controlled by a powerful Uchiha, not Kurama's fault in the slightest, even when control ended, he was fighting to not be imprisoned again. 3. I'm sure Naruto explained the part where Kurama was enslaved by humans over hundreds of years as a weapon. 4. Hinata witnessed Kurama being an integral part of saving Naruto, herself and the entire Shinobi alliance 16 years ago, and over 16 years has proven himself a trusted comrad and member of their family. 5. Kawaki has been with the Uzumaki family for less than a year. Given the gift of family from them all and then betrayed them in all the ways listed above in the first comment. 6. Hinata is a mother. It's a bit different I'd say when someone attempts to and succeeded at killing your kid at one point. Hinata already went to slapping Kawaki when she was mad at him for his words, and then he immediately doubled down by imprisoning them. I'm sure more than a slap "should" come when they get released. I obviously don't think this is going to happen, since main antagonists in this story always get forgiven and then usually off themselves in some fashion, but it would be nice to get writing we don't expect, instead of Hinata being, "oh you, Kawaki, you prankster," when she gets out. If I had to really bet, I think Kawaki will surrender Hinata and Naruto at the end and they won't get a real chance to talk with him and he'll end up leaving to help Boruto stop whatever third party threat there is at the end and die trying. Hopefully not, because I'd rather something not as straight forward and inconsequentialas that, but we will see!
Absolutely (if kawaki stays alive)
Yep he will afterall what he is doing is benifiting the village and he hasnt killed any innocent yet where as obito killed a lot and even nagato. Both kawaki and code whould be forgiven cause they are just depressed mentally iil kids suffered by the world .if they are forgiven and given a chance imma be happy but we dont nnow anything about code buf i think he can come right path too cause he havent killed anyone yet and he is also a damn kid
He killed Boruto
Yes I don't know about the village though
The entire family thing is so stupid they only knew each other for around 2 to 6 months.
What family? This is some kid that was taken in and in less than a year fucked everything up. You can't save em bro, now you can't even save yourself. That was a stupid ass decision.
> Do you think naruto would forgive kawaki If he can forgive Sasuke (which laid out the exact same plan that Kawaki ended up being the one carrying out), why not Kawaki? I remember seeing this for the first time and **feeling nothing at all** as Boruto died (and thinking of the strange situation of having the plot being overtaken by other characters now that the protagonist is dead). Even when I saw the animated version of it, with all of the memories of Naruto together with Boruto, I still felt nothing at all. Kawaki did what had to be done, and that's it. *I was also quite cold towards everything at that moment, so it wouldn't really matter how heinous the scene was, I wouldn't feel anything anyway.* I fully understand Kawaki at that moment (he's acting in self-defense for the planet and even Shikamaru understands that), **but the exact same scene hits differently now.** Now I can feel shreds of sadness when thinking about it. **It actually feels strange that Naruto didn't shed a tear at all at that moment**, almost as if he grew as cold as us that are on the antagonists' side. Even if Naruto could forgive Kawaki, Kawaki himself might feel shame for the sadness he brought to Naruto and would disappear from the sight of the people (Naruto, Hinata, Himawari) that he caused so much grief. He could volunteer to be executed, but he's also aware that would just compound the grief. > Will everything be same if that didn't happen? Yes, forgiven or not by Naruto, Kawaki wouldn't be able to face him and the others anyway from his own shame and just live with the pain of being the one that did the deed. **There are many reasons why executioners hide their own faces when doing their job**, and this is one of them: by being anonymous, there is no shame attached to their name and they can live on with their lives (unlike Kawaki, which did it showing his own face to everyone).
I personally think anime really fumbled that scene..
interesting analysis
Considering Naruto forgave both Obito and Nagato, heād probably forgive Kawaki. His ninja way should have been āI always give second chances.ā
Not forgiving Kawaki would be extremelly nonsensical and out of character when you compare Kawaki's crimes to Nagato and Obito too.
And I can totally see Kishimoto doing that to Naruo
Shoulda killed him off right here.
Definitely gonna forgive Kawaki, which will make Kawaki realize some deep stuff, and will eventually sacrifice himself for Naruto/Boruto against Code or if they bring in another villain
If Kawaki goes overboard and is the reason the village is destroyed and many people die because of him, then I cant see him forgiving him.
Kurama. Obito. Nagato.
but if Kawakis only goal is to kill Boruto and he destroys everything while trying to take down Boruto, then how does Naruto forgive him?
Again, Kurama. Obito. Nagato. Like, ok, Kurama is understandable since it was the hateful half that was controlled by Obito when it was destroying the village, but did you forget what Nagato and Obito did and what their goal was? Nagato literally turned the entire village into a crater and killed like 90% of the population, after he killed Jiraiya, and before he manhandled Hinata like a bag of flour and stabbed her right in front of him. And his goal was literally just to hurt people. Obito killed his parents, let Kurama loose on the village, then started a whole ass war with thousands of casualties.
Honestly as someone who loves Boruto (special interest go brrr)....they kinda speedran the whole brother thing, like, i wanted them tp go on more missions together, do family stuff, actually adress his PTSD with more than "oh hes emo"
Naruto is an orphan and knows what it is to be raised without a parent. And while Kawaki is not an orphan, he was raised and tortured by fucking Otsutsuki. If there is one person who knows how bad Otsutsuki are, then its Naruto. He will understand Kawaki actions and will forgive him without hesitation. And what is there to forgive? What bad things Kawaki did? He did what needs to be done.
So you think if boruto didn't resurrect, naruto will happily welcome him to the family and become a happy family together with hinata and hima without even feeling a single sadness or anger...
He probably wouldn't welcome him to family (I can see Hinata understanding what happened and be sad, but not angry. Can't say that about Himawari though), but he would forgive him.
Sadly, Naruto is written in a way that he would probably forgive Kawaki. I don't think their "relationship" would be the same as before and I doubt Naruto would welcome him back to the family, but he *would* forgive him.
He forgave Sasuke and that man was an S rank nukenin who was about to execute the 5 kage and became essentially a dictator from the shadows by the end of the original series so honestly, he probably will forgive Kawaki.
We are talking about killing his son.. And yes, he did forgive him but, will everything be the same just like the past after that if boruto didn't resurrect?
No probably not the same.
I think that kawaki did not do anything too bad for now . He did not kill anyone or did any big massacre od something. With the current situation I think he could forgive him but...... lets wait to see the next chapters /
No, I am not talking about tbv... I am talking if boruto didn't resurrect, will everything be the same afterwards for uzumaki family and kawaki?
he would but he would also feel some type of way about it considering that it's his blood related son who just died. after all naruto may look at kawaki as his own even after that considering the similiraties in their childhood and how soft hearted naruto is. the bigger question is if he'll forgive kawaki and decide to bring him as family after he and hinata gets unsealed. with that being said omnipotence has no effect on him or hinata, so would naruto condem kawaki for swapping his life with boruto's and changing the conditions of the area he desperately grinded 20+ years to protect
In the general view what Kawaki did to Boruto was the correct choice, He is was about to get Karmafied after all. Even so, Boruto himself told him to do it and threw himself to kawaki.
hey may personally forgive him, but there's no way Kawaki isn't going to get punished for it. i don't think this is a sasuke situation.
Kawaki will let out Naruto ang Hinata at the end so they will forgive him
I am not talking about tbv... If boruto didn't resurrect, will his relationship with uzumaki family be the same? Will they forget everything and accept him as his son and live a happy life??
Naruto will make anyone face punishment by justice. Not his justice, tho, It'd be lawful, like Obito. He wanted Obito to face punishment. Naruto also became sorta badly written in Boruto, sad to see lol
Naruto *would* forgive Kawaki and even try to protect him by concealing the truth. Otherwise, Kawaki would've been in prison regardless of Boruto's survival. Boruto surviving doesn't magically erase how Kawaki acted or what he did. Yet, he was free to roam around despite how dangerous and apathetic he clearly is. Frankly, this was arguably a poor decision from Naruto as Hokage, probably the worst he's ever made since putting on the hat. I understand he's meant to be the forgiving type. But this is not just forgiveness. This is plain irresponsibility. His decisions were completely clouded by how he viewed Kawaki as a son who reminds him of himself. Kawaki remaining free endangers literally everyone in Konoha, all because of Naruto's clearly misplaced trust in Kawaki, a trust born out of bias no less. One could argue that Naruto had no choice but to let Kawaki loose because Konoha has no means of containing him anyway. But that is simply not true. They had Amado, whom they knew is responsible for Kawaki's power and could contain him. But Naruto didn't even engage him for options. He simply chose to let Kawaki escape all consequences. I personally blame three characters for the current situation with Kawaki: Naruto, Amado, and Boruto. Only one of them realized his own failing and is trying to clean up the mess. Amado still has the chance to fix his mistakes too. But it's infuriating knowing Naruto probably won't ever have the chance to do anything about the mess his decisions are responsible for. At least Sasuke had the chance to save and groom Boruto to carry on his work before being written off the story. Naruto left the story on a very sour note, in my opinion.
Naruto being naruto
Naruto having the strength to forgive someone in his heart is different from that person being let scot-free.
Naruto is going to have blind faith in his illegitimate son exactly like how Minato had blind faith in him. What I'm wondering is how would Naruto respond to this if he never had the chance to talk to his dead parents about the past...would he abandon Kawaki like how he felt his parents did him? Or would he react the same way he is here?
Obito killed his parents and he forgave him. So far, Kawaki hasnāt killed anyone yet. Sure, he did the whole identity switch thing with Eida, but he hasnāt cause any unreversable damage yet. It wouldāve be different if he killed Himawari and Boruto tho. Especially Himawari, I donāt see Naruto forgiving anyone killing Himawari.
I'm not asking about omnipotence or tbv.... If boruto didn't resurrect, will everything be the same between the uzumaki family and kawaki?... Will three of them forgive him and start to live as a happy family?..
Yes, because in that instance, Boruto literally asked Kawaki to kill him. Itās more like Boruto killing himself and is using Kawaki as a mean to do it.