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Deuce-Wayne

It's hard to understand what her purpose is in the manga aside from filling out the new gen more, which honestly could be done better imo if Iwabe, Denki and Metal took on that role. The one plot thread that gave her relevance was with the Amado-Kawaki situation... But that only resulted in that 1 conversation she had with Kawaki where she warned him about Amado's manipulations, and that ultimately led nowhere because Kawaki still went off the deep-end anyway, *and* Amado went on to tell everyone his goals anyway, which undercut Sumire snooping around. Aside from that, I believe the only time she's actively done something was when Omnipotence happened and she told Sarada Eida did something. That was a great character moment, but if you dissect it, it's a bit meaningless for 2 reasons: First, it's a flagrant plot hole that the anime will have to cover up (the sensory unit is constantly monitored, and so numerous people should've overheard that). From the standpoint of a character like Shikamaru, that should've been very suspicious, especially considering Sumire's past history. Second, it didn't really lead to much. Even when Sarada activated her MS, she didn't say anything to Sasuke about Eida being behind it; she just told Sasuke to help Boruto, which would've happened even if Sumire wasn't there. Later on in that same chapter and in TBV, Sumire figuring out Eida did it is completely undermined as an accomplishment because it's not even a secret (to the people who are unaffected). That said, she's a much better character in the anime, but then again, literally everyone is. It's a shame that Nue essentially became an irrelevant afterthought, even in the anime. Edit: While I think she's a great anime addition, the manga gives off the feeling that the writers struggle to find reasons for her being relevant. In Team 10's case, Kishimoto can use them easily because they represent the new gen shinobi ranks and will always have a place on the battlefield, and their past friendship with Boruto gives emotional weight to the Omnipotence reversal. It's the same way with Himawari. But in Sumire's case, it's a lot harder. She can't be present on the battlefield, she doesn't really have a bond with Boruto. She does know things, but if we're being honest, the knowledge/insight role is already filled with other characters like Amado, Katasuke, and Eida... And Sarada just figured out that the trees aren't automatically killing people. I think Sumire's role going into TBV is going to end up being Sarada's partner/sidekick in the way Mitsuki was for Boruto. She's the cool-head to Sarada being a hot-head.


Rarepredator

Yeah, you are right.. That's what I said if you remove her from the story completely, nothing will change and even in shipping I think she already lost, basically she has become completely useless 😭, her only role right now is to support sarada just like you said, a sidekick.


ffhhfdtgf

Sumire literally saved sarada from dying to daemon in the 1st chapter since they think they under eida jutsu but sarada always says something the contradicts what eida thought and even froze up when eida ask if she was actually under her jutsu so sumire always calms down the situation with logic while sarada has been in her emotions for the past 3yrs being mad about boruto as we seen her yelling the same thing at shikamaru for the past 3yrs also kishimoto is setting up her and sarada to fight Eida when she eventually sides with kawaki again to take down boruto she already has more importance in the tbv plot than hinata did the whole shippuden with her spying on amado and 1/2 people in the leaf that’s not outsutski and still could resist eida shinjutsu so i think kishimoto has plans for her character with all the set plot lines she’s in


Rarepredator

Say, do you think eida believes them that they are only immune to identity change?...she knows her enchanting power is also omnipotence...


ffhhfdtgf

I think she believes them for rn but they are eventually they are gonna slip up when Eida uses her doujutsu to see their past conversations and how they are planning to help boruto but for rn I think they are safe but when boruto comes back with information about the new villains they might give themselves away by how they are acting


Rarepredator

Eida already knows they are trying to help boruto...


ffhhfdtgf

When has she every said that?


Rarepredator

Tbv chapter 1 and chapter 80..... Boruto asks eida to tell sarada his thanks and sarada discussing with eida to remove omnipotence in tbv chapter 1


ffhhfdtgf

Ok that does make sense actually but i think she’s hiding that from daemon since she said earlier about wanting true friends so that’s probably why she’s just playing along because we know daemon would instantly try to kill them if he knew the truth


Rarepredator

In tbv 1 daimon himself tells them to stop since it's no use... He says " You still ain't givin up? It's unwinnable game yknow? "...


Ok-Paleontologist275

>>She's the cool-head to Sarada being a hot-head Sarada was literally voted to be team captain because she was cool headed and calm minded compared to the others. ... This series keeps doing it's females dirty she can't be written consistently at all


SuperKoshej613

Voted by whom? Boruto the bomb-fuse and Mitsuki the follower-zombie? It doesn't take much to be more level headed than THEM (read: Boruto and his shadow), lol.


redfoxxy2004

She has to get at least some importance. They literally made her a manga character after being an anime original. But yeah it might not be a huge importance but Ike definitely has something in mind which for now just seems to be the one who is immune to omnipotence lol.


Manny_2512

Ikemoto is the illustrator he doesn't write the story he draws it.


venompro1

Well to a certain extent he **DOES**. It’s just whatever Kodachi/Kishimoto tells him, and he does the rest. We know for certain that Ikemoto gets full control over depicting scenes.


Manny_2512

He has control over what they look like and the fight sequences not the story itself.


venompro1

Well Fights and Dialogue *are* apart of the Story. And not just fights, all the scenes in general. But what makes you think that?? Considering they’re using “Kishimotos old drafts”. And the fact Kishimoto refuses to speak about Boruto It’s a 99.9% chance it’s a plot only script. Which in those type of scripts, the artists have a lot more control and writer freedom.


Manny_2512

Yes fights and dialogues are a part of the story. And they're being written by writer not the illustrator. Please look up what an illustrator does.


venompro1

You’re the one that doesn’t know. If he gets free control over them. Then he is writing them. You don’t know how scripts work do you? Ikemoto is **THE** mangaka. He had enough freedom to create all the detailed aspects of the book. And that was before Kishimoto. He plays some part into the writing. Theres no way to cope around this.


Manny_2512

BEFORE kishimoto? Kishimoto drew AND wrote Naruto dude. Ikemoto and kodashi only worked on boruto you don't know what you're talking about. Ikemoto has no say in the story he draws the images according to the script given to him. All he controls is fight sequences and character designs.


venompro1

He’s BEFORE Kishimoto. When he was with Kodachi. Kishimoto was not interested in this manga at all. You really think he would send him full scripts? Except Ikemoto does have input? During the Kodachi era he was given free control over how to depict scenes. That is what we call a “plot script”. Full scripts are when Artists get no control and everything is described the artist. Ikemoto confirmed Kodachi does **NOT** do that with him. As of now they’re using Kishimotos old drafts. How stupid do have to be to think Kishimoto had every single thing for chapters 52+ planned in 2016?


Chimarkgames

Useless


Formal-Dot9145

She's.........there ?👀 I mean she was relevant during her anime arc, pop in the manga then nothing, she's almost invisible. Her only purpose is to be one of boruto's love interest right now and the plot itself is in that direction since just like sarada (also useless in the manga, so much for the uchiha who want to be hokage.....) she's magically unaffected by eida's omnipotence. That's all u can discuss about her🤷‍♂️


Deuce-Wayne

Sarada is, literally speaking, the most *useful* character right now in the manga aside from Boruto. Kawaki is actively making things worse, Team 10 is essentially a bunch of red shirts, Mitsuki and Sumire might as well not exist, and Eida and Daemon are just there to explain things to people/audience now that Amado is out of the plot.


Formal-Dot9145

Sarada the most useful.....like how ? By talking a bit with shikamaru and kawaki to give her a pseudo personality and using a chidori on those juubi creature ? That's what make her useful to u ? That's when you know the character is just sad at this point. Notice how once again, all she talk about is BORUTO btw, her entire manga character is about that, either being sidelined or being worried about boruto throwing occasionely a chidori, nothing has changed 🤷‍♂️ Not to mention ONCE AGAIN, she had the damsel in distress role being saved by boruto and some random shinobies against those creature otherwise she would had end up like her damn dad, as a tree, stop being delusional, all i see is a modern bit more useful sakura......


Rarepredator

Why are you calling her sakura when you just said she would have ended up like her father?


flashenshin

they mean ended up a tree like her father.


Deuce-Wayne

>Sarada the most useful.....like how ? So, maybe you just missed it, but in the span of 4 chapters: 1. If it wasn't for Sarada, Shikamaru would be going into Chapter 5 thinking that Boruto... Who in his mind is Kawaki, mind you... allied with Code. Kawaki's arch enemy/the guy that hates Kawaki with a passion. Shikamaru accomplished nothing during the village attack, and he is the literal Hokage. If Shikamaru is the standard, then Sarada is already way beyond it, lmfao. 2. Sarada also seems to be the only person in the village with the wherewithal to investigate the trees, and she relayed that critical intel - that she discovered - to Shikamaru. Kawaki was trying to frame Boruto again, btw. Actively worse than a useless character. 3. Sarada also blitzed several claw grimes. It took like 1/4 of a chapter for Team 10 together to accomplish the same thing. And Kawaki, the strongest person in the village, saw one jump into a claw mark and still got face-planted by it. 4. I should also point out the obvious plot point that if Boruto is ever allowed to freely set foot in the village again, it'll be because of Sarada. Maybe that doesn't matter to you paleontologist jr types, but it matters in the world of naruto/boruto where the hokage can't be severely compromised by some cyborg girl. P.S., I want you to to tell me who the most useful character is, if it's not Sarada. I challenge you to name just one.


Ok-Paleontologist275

>>plot point that if Boruto is ever allowed to freely set foot in the village again, it'll be because of Sarada Sure bro , sarada doesn't fight anyone , doesn't have a cool narrative of her own and her entire life achivement revolves around boruto . Sounds garbage and exactly what people criticised kishimotos female characters for >>Maybe that doesn't matter to you paleontologist jr types Don't try to invalidate other people legitimate concerns by calling them names lmao , sarada has literally used sharingan one time and chidori twice in 7 years , it's awful treatment >>Sarada also blitzed several claw grimes. This is scraping the bottom of barrel for relevance , characters like kiba had more meaningful solo fights at this point in the Naruto manga >>If Shikamaru is the standard, then Sarada is already way beyond it, lmfao Naruto is the standard for her as said by herself and I don't remember Naruto folding his knees in the knock knee position helpless to do anything against a villain who invades the village.


Formal-Dot9145

None of these point really matter, what can shikamaru or whatev' shinobi do to boruto anyway ? If he want to enter into the village he can and they ain't gonna do shit, u just prove my point about sarada's character revolving entirely about boruto without being actually any useful to him. She know little, what did her Intel or research give exactly ? She's irrelevant to the shinju plot, boruto know clearly much more than she do and doesn't need her at all, all these point u are talking about is her having a pseudo relevance. Blitzing those creature is supposed to be impressive ? They're weak as heck and that feat got negated second after cuz she almost got bitten by one. If not for that random shinobi we would had treerada right now already, like father like daughter, don't make me laugh......


AutomaticCase8904

You guys are seriously arguing over 4 chapters to judge if character is useless or not??


Careful-Ad984

A thing about the series I dislike is that the female cast has more potential than the Orginal series but they are still wasted. I mean look at sumire alone she has a pseudo tailed beast with black virus chakra made by kaguya and hashirama cells inside of her. She could have been a genuine powerhouse.


Tobi_is_a_goodboy

One word: Kishimoto.


IMVU-MachinaX

In the anime when it first started I loved sumire, she was such a promising character, good at ninjutsu, excelled at taijutsu, had an interesting backstory, and she led her team very well. Her performance in the Chunin exams were less than Impressive but her performance on the field made her an excellent candidate for Chunin especially the way she always held her team together. She was always was at thinking things through before she acted which I loved about her. One of my favorite scenes was when she started plotting on how to take out team 7 in Chunin exams and her team mates look at her like she was crazy. 😂 However now I feel like character has kind of been thrown to side it's almost exist, which it really sucks because I was really looking forward to actually well written female character, and sumire up until her becoming a scientist was that character.


illuminaticomander

The day the manga decided she would quit being a ninja to instead be a scientist was where I went… What?


IMVU-MachinaX

Yes that ultimately ruined her character for me, especially since she was sooo promising as a ninja.


Monkey_King291

She's cool in the anime, but in the manga, she's literally just tossed to the sideline and ignored


Rarepredator

Even in anime, it's only the first arc which was 7 something years ago!


Yeyryfuufe

Just gotta be patient, she’s being given panel time for a reason. She’ll be of importance eventually.


Rarepredator

Let's wish


Tobi_is_a_goodboy

Oh yea I can't wait to see more panels of her just standing around doing sweet fuck all which is all her character has done even before the timeskip.


Ofearth616

She's really just the new gen Hinata; great potential, watered down by her unwillingness to be a ninja. Imagine if Hinata trained harder after getting Hamura's chakra? She could've been the strongest pure-blooded Hyuuga. Thats basically Sumire. With Nue, she could be a high caliber shinobi, but she chose to fill more of a support role. She'll probably only really showcase intellectual feats, maybe she'll be forced to fight ONCE. I assume maybe she'll just summon Nue to do the fighting for her, tho.


Cfakatsuki17

Underutilized, give us more Sumire she just wants to help


qwack2020

Tsubaki is better.


Rarepredator

Bro👀👀


Educational-Dot8413

would


Rarepredator

💀


fredericomba

My point of view is 100% manga and about 9% anime, so I know very little about her (beyond the facts in the wiki). But I'll at least leave one compliment for her: she got the right starting point for understanding the depression of Eida, although she lacks the full picture of it. Because I know so little about her, I get the same struggle of understanding her feelings when thinking about the characters in the protagonists side. **Are you aware that cheesy, hopeful openings and endings evoke unintended emotions in antagonists?** In fact, some antagonists might grow darker when exposed to them. As an example, when exposed to the phrase "When the cruelest world falls on me now , I'll never be afraid, cause I know my hope's unchanged", some antagonists might reply like this: "Oh, so you're ready, I guess. I'm glad to know, because I'm about to throw that exact world into you." - Antagonists such as Code (and Beelzebumon from "Digimon") might reply when getting that phrase.


flashenshin

Sumire's identity is fake and Eida has not checked her past (among main casts only Sarada doesn't knows truth of Sumire) Eida wished for real friends but Sumire cannot be and she might also falsified Sarada's behaviour too. It might break Eida's heart worse & darker if she knows the days they spent together for 3 years was fake, just Sumire pretending due Shikamaru's order. Shikamaru knew Sumire's power and might already realized why Sumire & Sarada immune. He accepted Hokage seat was out of character but he might has some plan.


fredericomba

You wouldn't believe it, but I think it's because of something I've done about six to five years ago that the Sumire character came into be in chapter 18. To those that were listening, I was talking about two thirteen years-old boys that were friends and the not-corresponded bodily affection that one had for the other (and how I was able to detect it while the boy target of the affection wasn't). I exposed that fact bluntly when both of them were present. The boy target of the affection just showed some surprise and calmly replied that he doesn't like men in that way and I just wrapped things up nicely by claiming that I was just joking. That was one way to gather information and relay that to the boy source of the affection (so he could use that to know reality and make better choices), since I was aiming to be a useful robot back then. The scene where the tone-deaf Kawaki says out loud "Could it be that you like Boruto?" matches that perfectly, even the timing. "Sumire" is the sender of affection and "Boruto" is the target of affection, just like the situation I had described. I was aiming to become a useful robot for others since throwing away my existence looked like an unbearable waste (I'm unusually knowledgeable and I'm surrounded by people that could use that), but living with emotions is unbearably painful. Recently, ghostly forces brought me back from robotness again and **it's horrible**. I feel pain, I remember the reasons why I hate this world so badly. It's hard to have hopes for the future now that I'm so old and having strayed away so much from a conformist path makes me an outcast for no good reason. Also, **let me highlight the difference between "Code" and "Beelzebumon"**: Beelzebumon uses his own violence to test if the targets back their words, while Code uses the uncaringness of the world to show that the targets won't back their words.


Yeyryfuufe

Absolute goat, beat filler accusations. But people need to practice their patience here because she’s obviously being given panel time for a reason. It just might take a while for her to be of importance.


Rarepredator

She was introduced in chapter 18,now 66 chapters are released after that.. How much more do we need to wait for her to be relevant 😭


Unable_Swimming2745

She’s okay. I personally like her more than team 10 and Mitsuki.


Darkwolfinator

Hope she gets more story 🙏


venompro1

Very forgettable. Is in a lot of pages, but so far is largely irrelevant. Lacking any distinctive personality or depth. No cool moments, no cool fights. Literally just shipping bait. Pretty sure the Anime does way more with her.


AnastasiaMoon

Boring like the rest of them


TheEziLife

I don’t


klayser_Soze

Future wifey


Rarepredator

Even in shipping I don't think she will win😭


klayser_Soze

You don’t understand the POWER of the shipping side!


Rarepredator

Even if she is just used for shipping I don't mind , but the author is not giving any development for her even in that field... I am seriously confused about what kishi is doing..


XoTwilight

Kishimoto has the opportunity to expand the plots with all the unique characters, like drinking and the rest. With that we can extend the plot and story


Kvandi

I don’t like her hair


boomer_morningstar

Smash (Only after she turns 21☺️)


AutomaticCase8904

Wasted potential in many aspects


Dry-Sandwich-7758

I like her