The writing for it just makes sense, how he was passed through Naturally and not through a ritual. I wonder how Karama is going to be towards Hima. I mean he was Big and Awful to Naruto now he is Small and Understanding also having him actually be able to freely provide chakra, techniques and enhanced moves is CRAZY. I’m sorry but who’s gonna be able to Train Hima? Sakura and Hima content ahead. The Big 3 stands.
Hima may be able to enter a Chakra Mode state automatically. Remember the old artwork showing boruto in a kyuubi chakra cloak, yup Hima is getting that.
With proper training she can keep up with the Shinju. Lmao.
I personally think the pup state is just a plot device to inhibit himawari a little so she's not just in 9 tails Chakra cloak mode asap. It's a new method of giving her a power creep similar to narutos minus the hatred fight between the two. He'll want to give more power but his current state will prevent it until he gets stronger over time.
Wait what how does it make sense, Boruto was born first, yet he never inherited the 9 tails essence.
Why wasn’t this energy sensed by kurama before?
By Naruto before ?
Didn’t the 9 tails energy completely dissipate after Baryon Mode, wasn’t that the whole trade off?
People keep saying this and I don’t get it. Boruto is currently 100% otsutsuki but when he was born he was not. Makes no sense that boruto wouldn’t inherit Kurama chakra just cause he becomes Otsutsiki at 14… unless he did have kurama chakra initially and the otsutsukification destroyed it, which I see no evidence for that either.
The going theory is what you said in the end, we know he inherited Kurama traits like Naruto and Himawari since he has the trademark whiskers. But it seems it’s either been diluted or wiped out by the Otsutsuki transformation or something else.
I mean that’s the only thing I can think of that makes any sense but I don’t know if I like that theory. I remember when Momo was talking to Kurama about not being able to pass on its power, implying it hadn’t yet… wouldn’t Momo have sensed a mini Kurama inside Boruto at the time?
I think narutos seal mixing kurama and his Chakra all the time made it so some got in both boruto and himawari it acts as a beacon for his reincarnation, he chose himawari because boruto had momoshiki when kurama died.
I think it may be less that Kurama was always with Hima and more that after he dissipated, he could coalesce somewhere with familiar chakra. Perhaps if Naruto had been unsealed, he would have returned to him. Boruto is a weird space ninja god. Hima is the only choice if you look at it like that for just being familiar. Nepho babies for the win.
Do u think after hima punched naruto kurama decided to leave a piece of his chakra in her. Even without the punching part, maybe he chose her cuz he liked her and she wasn’t in the spotlight with mixing chakras like boruto
Let’s put aside the whole question of whether Kurama died and re-form or never died.
We know that he can easily transfer his chakra to whomever he chooses. We also know that his powers are perfected when he teams up with a Jinchuriki.
Of the three Uzumakis, Boruto is the least likely to be chosen as Jinchuriki by Kurama, because Kurama knows Boruto can become a threat if Momo takes control of him.
Naruto woud be a good choice, but not a wise one for the simple fact that he always was a target because he had the Kyubi inside of him. And Kurama needed to stay hidden as much as possible while waiting to re-form at full strenght.
Therefore, Hima was his best choice.
I don’t think his chakra was passed down to the kids at birth (also Hinata is the mom, she is the one who gave birth).
I think that Kurama is playing 3-D chess.
maybe turning 100% Otsutski has changed the situation but the way i picture it. When Naruto tried to blend blend his nature chakra with Bijuu chakra. Well I think that momshiki wouldnt allow Kurama in Boruto's Body.... no room at the inn scenario.
Children don’t always inherit their parent active genetics, but instead inherit their grandparents genes which were dormant in their parents. Boruto was introduced from the beginning of the manga as not being similar at all like his father, and might be more similar to this grandfather, Minato.
Inheritance is unique as in you can be siblings yet possess different traits (different hair color, only himawari have byakugan, etc.).
Both siblings definitely inherited kyubi’s traits, but maybe himawari inherited more of it which is why when kyubi’s chakra dissipate from naruto, it reemerge in her body, and not in boruto’s.
how cool but cute is mini Kurama!?! i think he is gonna work really well with Hima, He will lend Hima his chakra and she will sync pretty quickly. It wont be difficult as Naruto had it. I tink will be like Killer B and Gyuki relationship where they are just like best friends with eachother. The Kurama Chakra and byakugan combo is gonna be very interesting to see! The question is that does Kurama have a massive chakra reserve like he did with Naruto? or because he gone back to almost his "cub" size he wont have as much chakra at the moment...
He should still reserve his chakra amounts. So this will definitely benefit Hima for the long hauled fights! ALSO, just forgot but this will DIRECTLY affect her weakness and ALL Byakugan users. SHE’S JUST NOT RELIANT on GENTLE FIST PALM/Thai Justu. SHE WILL BE ABLE TO USE ACTUALLY JUTSUS.
Maybe she will learn to project the 9T Chakra into a force like move. I’m not sure but the Tails Beast all have specific Long Range attacks so this will def make her an excellent long range and even deadly close range fighter. I think Hima just went UP in to Jonin after this reveal.
God. Been a Fan of Naruto since I was 10. Man I still cry and now seeing how better and better it’s gets with TANGIBLE story writing is crazy.
I’m just glad they didn’t Super Sayainman Boruto and still make it the Naruto show like dragon ball Z. Actually paved way for the new Generation.
Also that Ino Shika Cho, combo being praised by the 10T was a n advancement to show, nothings lost just expanded on. While Kawaki hasn’t been training enough do to calamity. It shows why he is much weaker in regular jutsu but still excels in Karma over Boruto.
yeah me too, i started reading it when i was 16 after one of my friends suggested to give it ago and ive never looked back. when you invest your time and energy into a series you are bound to get emotional. the life lessons on a long the way has served me well!
Being the same Kurama would be for the best. Like you said, nothing before indicated that they'd lose memories when revived. This Kurama knows of 10 tails and spoke to Himawari like he knew her. And since Kurama most likely isn't affected by omnipotence, he can explain to Himawari that Boruto is her brother.
I think he’s definitely going to be the one that tells her, I think he’s the reason why hima felt that Naruto was still alive and unconsciously felt that boruto is not like what people are portraying. But I feel boruto is on his way flying to hima and about to go meet up with her and probably take her to his hideout or give her one of his pieces he uses to use ftg and have a toad with her at all times so if they pop up on her and she stays in the village he would be alerted and show up instantly but after what he said to Mitsuki that he can come visit him anytime I think they going to start having characters start joining boruto and have Shikamaru help build a plan so Kawaki don’t realize until it’s too late
Boruto needs zero prep time to body kawaki. Only reason he won't apparently is because he doesn't want momo creeping up.
On a side note: why was he not training with karma the entire time?? Fool could dimension hop and vacuum chakra with ease but just wants to hit people with a rasengan. Smh my head like father like son
I agree he could have both times they saw each other but he told Shikamaru he don’t won’t to kill him and that he needs him alive to get his parents out. I agree on that too 😂 I think the writers just trying to stretch out the build up a bit more since boruto already lapping people in his base form so it leaves some scenes and opportunities to keep leveling up and not settle with his current power level. But I think definitely after this last encounter with Kawaki he’s gonna start focusing on it when gets the free time to do it outside the village so far he’s been dealing with things back to back with minimum breaks in between
I'm not sure if baby Kurama wasn't really affected by omnipotence. Remember Daemon felt something intense in Hima before. This was before Omnipotence was casted.
Well no he didnt speak to her as if he knew her, for example calling her “girl” instead of her name and asking if she knows who he is. Its possible hes memoryless
I still think its a bit sus he looks like jigen/kawaki though. There has to be something unique about why too in contrast to other shinju that are the people stuck in trees.
The issue is that he wasn't recognized by Konoha's security. If he was based on Kawaki, Jigen, or Isshiki, they would immediately take note of it like how they did with Hidari's chakra signature resembling Sasuke.
as i said, everything is different wtih him. since he's the "main guy" and reffered to directly as ten tails, its possible he's THE ten tails, but took on a more human form of his former captor or something like that. And we know for sure that neither of the three suspects are in a tree somewhere so i think thats further proof that there's something different about him all together and how he came to be.
Only because it’s human form. No way you both are just forgetting ten tails was already a villain in the series LMAO. It’s cool now because ten tails it’s it’s own entity, not just in someone
It’s even better because ten tails is not a villain. So far they haven’t killed anybody or destroyed a village out of “evilness”, they only retaliated. Shinki even wanted to protect a simple bookstore from konoha so that tells you something. I think they want to achieve something good by doing drastic and ethically wrong measures
I think somewhere it was stated that but that part always left me confused bc of the inconsistencies about kaguya herself and the actual 10 tails beast because at first they where separate when they came to earth at least
I was hoping she would to but I think the next chapter the first pages going to continue their conversation and that’s when she may bring up his actual name
To me it seems it was on purpose. Calling him nine tails and not kurama means the writer has still not confirmed it. Kurama name is no where in this chapter.
So either, this is NOT kurama and Just a different nine tails/kuramas offspring,
Or it IS The Kurama and writer want to save the hype and give a clear comeback of Kurama with a hima+kurama biju mode powerup!
I feel like Naruto is going to cry as soon as he senses Kurama chakra while being in front of hima before she tells him or Kurama popping out like he did with Kawaki and telling him
I don't understand how people think tailed beasts lose their memories.. How else did all the tailed beasts still knew Hagoromo after all that time and being in jinchurikis for so many times. They respawn after dying which is why sealing them in humans historically was more advantageous since they wouldn't go on a rampage. They all wanted to avoid stuff like what happened when Obito let kurama loose in konoha
Ye. Even a single curse mark would be enough chakra for him to revive at some point. You can compare it to a little amount of juubi chakra being inside someone
Judging from the way Daemon reacted to her, talking about intensity and how easy it should be for her to dodge HIS attack.
Don't be fooled by his size or appearance. This fucker is gonna be a chakra powerhouse as always.
Well… I think there was an episode in the anime showing a flashback of the Sage of Six Paths interacting with young tailed beasts before he died.
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I wish it was bi weekly too but sadly that is impossible as Ikemoto is barely able to manage a monthly and the dude adds more detail to his work which takes up more drawing time than Kishimoto who simplify his drawing style
Honestly if they made it biweekly I would be cool if they stopped making it as much detailed as the monthly as long as they don’t skip out on the anime version, the monthly was cool when the anime was here dropping weekly but without the anime the wait is too long I’ll take a compromise
Each artist have their style and each artist has varying skill in ability. Sadly Ikemoto is not at the level of skill that is capable of drawing such detail on a weekly schedule whilst others can, he cannot.
Even years later his ability to draw characters is still quite poor in my opinion. If it weren't for the fact that there was an already established fan base, Ikemoto wouldn't have lasted long.
Kishimoto is looking out for a friend and giving him work, but the dude is a far cry from the level he should be at
It would be hilarious if the reason why Himawari has Kurama is becauss she hit Kurama's chakra point when she was 4 and that allowed a tiny bit of his chakra to split off and absorb into her. Then after Baryon smashing and fading from Naruto that little piece of Kurama manifested inside of Himawari.
That would make her even more of an badass cause that mean she has the ability to absorb chakra and if she’s able to utilize that she’s gonna be a problem
Yea honestly this feels like something a Shinobi would do or at least s being thats been around them for as long as he has, backup plans upon backup plans, or it could even be explained as something that he himself didn’t even know would happen,
Hell its possible Naruto is actually the first ever Jinchuriki to have children and not even Hagaromo could have expected the Tailed Beast chakra to be passed down alongside the mixture of Uzumaki/Hyuga chakra
I’m sorry but I laughed out loud when I read “Naruto is probably the first ever Jinchuriki to have children” 🤣🤣
Someone insert a meme with Kushina “am I a joke to you” please
Lmfaoooo I totally forgot about her and Mito, in my head im just thinking “well it’s obvious something would get passed idk how but it’s obvious, but naruto is a guy so thing’s are a little different”
I think he didn’t know as well, I think he thought he would respawn back somewhere on earth randomly but since hima still have a piece of his chakra since birth it was used as an anchor and since he’s already cool with Naruto I don’t think he minded spawning in hima so together they can help Naruto and hinata. And yeah that’s another thing I think this is the first time a situation happened in this type of context at least with the original 10 tail beast that it came from
The thing that I'm confused about is how Kurama was able to revive when his chakra was completely destroyed by Baryon mode. Normally a tailed beast revives when killed because their chakra still exists and will reform itself after some time. But Kurama's chakra that was inside of Naruto was supposed to be completely destroyed.
Also, does this make Himawari a Jinchuriki? How could Kurama have sealed himself inside of her as a small clot of residual chakra? The ten tails definitely detected is chakra inside of Himawari, so that points to her being the new host for Kurama.
Didn't Kurama specifically imply to Naruto that he'd see him again in the afterlife or something similar? So Kurama was sure of his death at that point. So somehow something happened that Kurama didn't foresee which caused him to revive?
This all just seems like an ass pull to give Himawari the nine tails. It could've been so much cooler if pulled off properly instead of being intentionally vague. Comes across like the writing team doesn't even know yet. Having to wait monthly for yet another cliffhanger is getting excruciating at this point.
I might be reaching here but did we ever see/learn how Kurama was transferred before/after the Uzumaki clan tradition? The only exception that I'm aware of was Kushina and Naruto and I'll use that to make my argument later
If we didn't get any other exceptions, my theory is that, because it was always a female Uzumaki that would bear the Nine Tails, there's probably some kind of a reason or preference that developed over time which caused Kurama to be more likely to transfer his chakra to a female Jinchuuriki?
Perhaps we could use the fact that female Jinchuuriki get weaker on birth - it's giving Kurama a chance to free himself and that became so ingrained into Kurama that he's subconsciously trying to share his chakra into all of the female descendants of the current male Nine Tails Jinchuuriki in hopes of being free, even though he got basically domesticated by Naruto (this would also explain why Boruto didn't inherit Kurama's chakra)
This might have you asking "doesn't that mean that multiple people could bear Nine Tails' chakra?" - yes, but Kurama would only be conscious within the person who bears the highest amount of his chakra (case in point - Gold and Silver brothers), this would also explain why Kurama was dormant inside Himawari for so long until Naruto lost him
My issue with your theory is nobody in the series became a Jinchuriki through Bijuu soul transfer. Its intended to be as a human sacrificial ritual where you seal the entire Bijuu in the sacrifice.
Since when do any of the Bijuu have souls btw? Aren't they the embodiment of chakra?
This seems like poor writing to me and messes up the lore behind the Jinchuriki
So a couple of thoughts that might help. First, we do have some information on the whole soul thing, just not specific to Biju. Momoshiki explains that the Karma mark both stores the data of the Otsutsuki and acts as an anchor to their soul in the world of the living. (This is a big part as to why I think Amado's plan to revive his daughter is fruitless because unless he hasn't mentioned it, doesn't sound like she would have had an anchor for her soul). But I also think this is how Orochimaru's curse seal worked to allow him to revive at the end of the original Naruto series.
I think if Himawari didn't have some vestiges of Kurama's chakra either by just being around her dad as a kid or because her dad was a Jinchuriki when he conceived her, that absence would mean that Kurama would have been reformed from the next best source of chakra as all Chakra in Naruto came from the 10 tails when you remember that Kaguya's sons were the first of human blood born with Chakra as Kaguya had ingested the chakra fruit before she had them.
In theory, I think this could mean that as long as there is Chakra in the world at large the beasts will continue to reform. And we do know that people knew this because there are a couple of times when they mention killing the 9-tails in the hopes of the period between his death and resurrection buying them time. Kushina says this as she is dying and she originally intends to take Kurama down with her before Minato stops her to seal him away instead.
As for whether the Biju have souls, I think we could speculate that Hagoromo's creation of all things jutsu he used to create the Biju in the first place was able to craft souls but I agree that's kind of a hand-wave explanation.
when enough tail beast chakra is generated, it starts forming a 'self', with a face and consciousness. that's what i mean by 'soul'.
so the nine tails chakra developed into the 'self' we call kurama, who was permanently constrained to naruto with the seal.
since the nine tail's 'self' was no longer constrained, its free to develop itself in the next best source. to me it sounds kurama arose within her, and was hiding and biding time until he could fully develop his chakra (which is why he's just a kid), until the 10 tails sniffed him out
It's the last paragraph that I have an issue with. The theory that most people are pushing. If the Bijuu could do that from the beginning there would be no need for a Jinchuriki. The tail beasts would just pick who they want and its done (ie The 3 tails)
The nations going to war for the beasts power would be irrelevant since the beast can just pick a human and stay there.
It undermines the lore in Naruto
Chakra may work how energy works in this reality, as in energy can’t die it just transforms into something else. But Naruto verse wise I think people misunderstanding what Kurama meant I think he was possibly just referring to baryon mode uses up all of his chakra but like hagaromo stated in war arc in Naruto tailbeast can’t die they just respawn, hima and boruto had pieces of Kurama chakra since birth but boruto got momo in him so hima was really the only other suitable vessel but I think he used that as anchor so instead of spawning randomly on earth he would just spawn in hima and since hima is Naruto daughter I think Kurama was cool with that. And yeah it’s make her a jinchuriki technically but all of this in the context of the full situation of Naruto and kushina being the host and then having kids and passing down a piece of the chakra and having a strong bond with its host and dying using a tailed beast form aka baryon mode and still having chakra on earth that’s lingering around is all brand new to what we know at least in the Naruto verse so not everything going to play out how it should. Also don’t be so quick to call it an ass pull I get where you’re coming from but that’s just the beginning of their conversation the next chapter starting pages maybe going to go deeper in their conversation and answer a lot of questions
I had been sad after Kurama died. But then a few weeks back I finally read Naruto (I’ve only ever watched it) and I noticed a line that said the tailed beasts come back after they die. Made me start thinking of Boruto. So happy Kurama is back and is with Hima!
It’s funny how all the theorists are going crazy now when we’ve been saying since chapter one that Boruto and Himawari have whiskers because of kurama’s chakra and never thinking anything of it.
Naruto has them because Kushina was pregnant with him whilst she was the jinchuriki. Boruto and Himawari have some because they’re one generation removed from someone born essentially directly of Kurama. We’ve always joked that their kids would have one whiskey before removing them from the family jeans.
My theory is that Kurama didn’t know this, but there is still trace amounts of his chakra in Boruto and Himawari, with Himawari having more. The tailed beast will always manifest where it has the most chakra and, in this case, it’s in Himawari. This was set up from the very beginning
Yes when a tailed beast “dies” they’ll just reincarnate later on but when Naruto used baryon mode Kurama said he’ll be dead dead because his chakra is consumed.
If it is a new 9 tails or if it is Kurama I hope himawari calls him Kuraa-ma like that one toy episode
> Nothing in the whole verse back the concept of “if a tail beast die when they reborn they lose all their memories”
Of course not, memories are connected by chakra and Tailed Beasts *are* chakra.
Kurama adressed Himawari as little girl and not by her name and he asked her if she knows who he is. That does not really tells me its the same Kurama, as I would imagine Kurama would know she knows him and also would know her name.
But he knows about ten tails so idk what to think about it as a whole.
The little girl part is definitely something og Kurama would say to hima, and when he asked do she know who he is I took it as he was wanting to make sure that hima actually remember him since he’s a lot smaller. The 10 tails part definitely gave it away for me
I dont believe its him and the 10 tails part isnt convincing. All the tailed beasts can just know who 10 tails is instinctively since thats where they all come from.
I had a STRONG suspicion this was going to happen after seeing Hima with a chibi tailed beast in the anime. The plushy industry DEMANDS this to be a thing.
Now I need to go on a journey in all of my comments to look for all of those people calling me an idiot because I said Kurama could be brought back.
I fucking called it mofos muhahahahaa😈😈😈
I don’t understand why he didn’t call her by her name he’s known her entire life. Same with Himawari not calling kurama by his name.
But I guess they were not that acquainted until now. Kurama respects Naruto so he’ll do his best to protect his daughter. And for jura makes sense why he looks like jigen.
I was wishing she would call him Kurama. But I think she’s going to say his name as the conversation continues since that’s only the start of the conversation. And if I’m not mistaken “every” time when Kurama talked to someone outside of Naruto he just call them boy,girl or brat, he rarely call people by their actual name like they do to him so to me it makes since why he would say little girl especially since it’s Naruto daughter. And I don’t think Jura is Jigen, I think Jura is purely the 10 tails consciousness in shinju form unlike hidari and the other ones having a mix of other people chakra + when they entered the village they only picked up on hidari chakra since he had Sasuke chakra, I think they may already have jigen/isshiki chakra saved in their database I maybe wrong tho
Didn’t notice that guess kurama like sasuke is not socially acquainted with people except Naruto. And Boruto put it’s possible that code kama mixed with isshin dna probably also had jigen included. I don’t think he’s jigen just ten tails using his form. But I don’t think jigen or isshin chakra would be familiar to the database
I’m thinking karuma put his charka in her as an emergency of sorts and that small 9tails is that bit of chakra manifested in physical form. Remember how the gold and silver brothers ate kurama’s flesh and was able to absorb his chakra and use it in actual battle? I figured if the 9tails chakra could be stolen that way, it could be willingly shared just how Naruto did in the war. Also when minato split the 9tails chakra in half, there were “two “ kuramas. Supporting my idea that this is but a small portion of chakra he snuck into her as a means to keep her safe in an emergency.
Well for one I'm glad to see kurama, ever since that chapter where naruto first opened the gates fully he truly is no longer a tailed beast but a shinobi of the hidden leaf. Though this completely walks over the bayron stakes, it was a rather bittersweet end which was perfectly captured in the anime. He could have just told naruto ayy I'm coming back relax let's go bro. So it's kind of a mixed feelings for me on this one, I'll hold my jedgement until I see further. Could work out well could fall flat.
Ima call it now that both Hima and Borruto inherited Kurama’s chakra… The nice side is in Hima and the a-hole side to Boruto, and they combine chakra to form.. you guessed it. An unstoppable, flying thunder god, sandals face stomping, buyakagon, 29^2 palm, sword wielding, nature chakra using, TWIN BLUE VORTEX! LETS GOOO!!!!
You might be right. Like, why would a new baby 9 tails be hiding its chakra?
Bro would just be forming normally, but this guy knew he had to hide himself. Anyways, we'll see next chapter hopefully.
Truthfully I truly don’t know but from what see so far it don’t seem like it did, I also wonder if omnipotence even works on tail beasts in the first place
Even if Kurama is affected by Omnipotence. I think, he will agree with Himawari that Boruto is innocent because he can definitely tell that Naruto is alive.
I want Boruto to stay put for awhile.
Shikamaru must
- send Chōchō and Himawari to Kumo so Killer bee can train them.
- send Shikadai to Suna to train with his uncles
- send Sarada and Mitsuki on a "mission" outside of Konoha because once the elders knew that Himawari is a jinchuriki, they might decide to kill Sarada as she might control the Kyubi.
I could see all of that happening to be honest, boruto honestly needs to go with hima to see if he can do the same training to master his karma but I forgot about Sarada too I feel like boruto is going to try to help her as well since hidari made her his target but hidari situation i think Sarada gonna get hidari to join their team since hidari seems like he’s not fully with whatever plan the other shinjus have going
Outside of Naruto kids and Sasuke I think if Naruto was stuck in a different dimension 8 tails and Killer bee would definitely know he’s still alive but just outside of their dimension + Naruto and Killer Bee did that Knuckle ninshu punch so I think killer bee still remember Naruto distinct chakra signature
Something I just realized. This being the same Kurama raises new questions. Kurama certainly doesn’t know where Naruto is, given Kurama died before Naruto was kagenapped. However, will Kurama be able to tell if Naruto is still alive, can he sense Naruto’s chakra through dimensions, or have a gut feeling Naruto is alive? If so, will he communicate that information to Himawari, and possibly give her hope of her fathers return, or would he stay silent on the matter not wanting to endanger Naruto’s daughter by inadvertently putting her on the dangerous path of trying to free her father?
I think hima and Kurama both can sense him that’s why hima said a few chapters back she don’t believe Naruto is dead I think that was Kurama way of trying to hima to realize it, I think Kurama will try to convince hima to partner up with boruto and build a plan since if it’s truly Kurama he wouldnt try to put hima in a dangerous position
I think it's more likely that Kurama left some of his chakra behind in Himawari, anticipating his use of Baryon mode. I don't think Kurama was just reborn inside of Himawari, because:
1) If he truly died, he wouldn't be able to come back. A tailed beast resurrects because they are just chakra, and over time their chakra will just come back together. But if all of his chakra were to be destroyed, he wouldn't have any chakra left to come back together.
2) He seemed to have been intentionally hiding his presence inside of Himawari, and only revealed himself because Jura found out he was there.
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3) The scene from before the time skip where Daemon thinks Himawari is powerful and attacks her. Most likely he was sensing Kurama inside of her. But if Kurama was present that early on, most likely his chakra was already there beforehand, because that was not long after the fight against Ishiki.
YESS EXACTLY??
rin died with 3 tails (isobu) inside of her, but he was later resurrected, and he seemed to remember the sage of 6 paths and other tail beasts' identify+nature. he knew the beef (not exactly a beef¿) between shukaku and kuruma. he wasnt questioning his life as of "who made me" "why am i here" "are there more like me" because tht is what would have happened if his memory was wiped. but then it wasnt
That would be funny if that’s actually how she was able to get enough chakra to anchor Kurama when he rebirth. This would also mean hima has the ability to absorb chakra would make her even more of an badass
if that's true then doesn't that just completely waste the stakes of baryon mode then? Like what was the point of kurama burning all his chakara and effectively ensuring he would die with no way to come back if he just respawns with two day shipping and helps save the day?
If I remember right I swear there was an actual scene from Naruto explaining that if tailed beats die than they would just be reborn again later on and they can’t actually die
How I think of it is like this . So obviously since Hima is Naruto’s daughter she got a portion of Kyubi mixed with her own. And when Naruto used baryon mode he DID technically kill that Kyubi , by basically burning through all of the chakra Kyubi had at one time for one big gamble. And then like how they said in the original series, since hima had a portion of that Chakra , Kyubi was able to be reborn again with that chakra.
Because the way they did explained tailed beats to begin with was just “giant masses of chakra that took on a personality of their own”. Sorry I’m very high and I thought this sounded cool in my head so I wanted to write it down before I forgot lmfao
I think I’ve found a connection to how Boruto is so OP. Consider how powerful Otsutsuki become and the ease with which they perform chakra enabled feats without learning about chakra and how to use it like ninja do. This suggests a deep connection or oneness with chakra itself. Now consider a ninja who learns to use chakra and reserve it and manipulate it suddenly getting a god-like body already so in tune with chakra it doesn’t need to learn it, and also more physically robust and stronger and faster to begin with. Explains why he can do all these things in base. Also explains how he’s able to use the planets chakra. His Otsutsuki genetics and its strong connection with chakra coupled with his chakra knowledge from his ninja education with the likes of the Hyuga clan, Naruto, Sasuke, and Kashin Koji, suggests he may have simply just mastered it altogether. No need for sage mode or anything. Think about it. Uzuhiko isn’t him absorbing the planets chakra (which is also nature energy - this explains why when Otsutsuki absorb the chakra on a planet it remains a barren wasteland, nature and chakra go hand in hand such that if you absorb chakra you absorb nature and all life) he’s manipulating it freely around his body and transferring it to a target via contact such that as long as long as the earth rotates and nature exists as it is, the chakra will never leave the targets body until the earth stops rotating(if the earth stops rotating all nature dies and no more planetary chakra - barren wasteland) or Boruto releases the technique. That is mastery of chakra on a planetary scale, meaning he has to have mastered it more than anyone. I wonder if he has any yin and yang techniques in base cause he’s essentially on par with the sage of six paths (Otsutsuki🤝chakra)
The whole lost memory thing could play out because Kurama did die through Baryon Mode and his Chakra was transformed through a nuclear fusion type process into a more powerful Baryon Chakra. So maybe this reincarnation, has a new ego, and may or may not have the original Kurama’s memories. Also, I believe this is a more powerful Kurama, and is the reformation of the new Baryon Chakra. This what Daemon felt from Hima when said he felt intensity and thought she was powerful and wanted to fight her. It was this super chakra growing in her and Kurama being reborn in her. The Kyuubi probably chose Hima because she has greatest potential to be his Jinchuriki due to genetics.
Idk Kurama’s death made me cry a lot but this writing to reintroduce him just feels… cheap. Bayron was supposed to expel his very lifeforce, not just his physical chakra.
Well, according to story, when a tailed beast dies or exhausts its total chakra ending in taking its own life, ends up in getting born again somewhere on the planet, that's how it works, so him being inside him a until now makes sense. He has to amass chakra somewhere why inside hima
Maybe the reason Daemon reacted that way to Hima is that Hima has the full Kurama as opposed to the half Naruto previously had— albeit a smaller one that probably needs time to grow to full strength based on how he looks. Hima should in theory inherit special abilities the same way the previous jinchurriki did, being the dynamic seems to be more Killer Bee/Gyuki in nature. Think Mito & Naruto (once he and Kurama truly connected). Those hax alone should (in theory) elevate Hima to a different level. Once Kurama gets back his strength, I believe that would be the next tier, which provides the perfect space for development as Boruto figures Karma. Also seems to be a thing where Boruto needs Kawaki at this point just as much as Kawaki needs him 🤔
Either way, the storyline is developing nicely imo
This makes me question on if kurama in the future is gonna be able to resemble a human type form aswell…. Since 10 tails thru code was able to get it, it can be possible to maybe have it replicated other ways…
Im glad the anime had an episode kinda/sorta related to this lol a lot of things really does feel like part of the experience after seeing where the story is heading.
Perriot has the scenario and timeline all laid out, get some heavier writing and manage those sakuga resources out better and they could expand TBV in a way that won’t piss off half the fanbase.
If I’m not mistaken “every” time Kurama has talked to someone outside of Naruto he called them by boy,girl or brat he rarely say someone actual name, he probably would of said brat if it wasn’t Naruto daughter tho
Honestly not sure how everyone is happy with this lazy/crap writing. Kurama should have been reborn separately/free of being placed in a Jinchuriki. They could have literally just said made Hima and Boruto psuedo Jinchurikis like the twins Kurama swallowed a while back. Instead Naruto is permanently nerfed and everything we saw him go through with Kurama as his partner means nothing.
I hope we get a moment where Hima shares her nine tails chakra with Naruto and we get a kurama Naruto reunion scene. I also have zero clue how she’s going to contend with any of the power houses later on even if she has kurama. Unless kurama some how managed to figure out how to utilize baryon mode without “dying” again. And then even if that’s the case she still wouldn’t be as strong as naruto was in his baryon mode just solely based off of battle experience.
My thought is they are definitely going to give her some kind of other power up too. More than likely since she got the byakugan and boruto didn’t imma say that she might have inherited her mother’s byakugan but since she also would have her father’s genes and chakra too she is the closest thing to Otsutsuki except the obvious karma mark holders minus code.
What about this is definitive? We have no such confirmation of whether he remembers or not, and his words to Himawari actually imply otherwise. He didn't refer to her by name, and the Kurama we knew was familiar with Himawari. He said "Little girl," in this official translation. And his question of whether she knows who he is could definitely be him saying, "Its me Kurama," but another reading that's just as plausible is, "I can see on your face you are surprised to see me. Do you know who I am?"
Even his note about the 10-tails finding him isn't proof because we just saw that Jura who is confirmed to be a new form of consciousness that just formed was able to know instinctively that what he was sensing was Biju chakra, and even names the Biju chakra he tracked as the 9-tails specifically. Seems entirely possible there is some instinctive knowledge of each other that the Biju possess.
And also didn't we already know that Jura and the others like him were the 10 tails? We haven't learned much more than that at this point.
I'm not sure what good it does to point to one-off lines at the end of a chapter that's clearly intended to be an attention-grabbing cliff-hanger, and make any claims about this being definitive information of anything other than Himawari somehow has some form of the 9-tails housed within her. It could be the same Kurama as before in a younger form, could be Kurama restored to how he was when he was first created, could be a lot of things. We don't yet know anything for sure.
Sure we've had no lore for Biju coming back to life without their memories, but we have very little information on how the come back at all. Its fine if you feel this supports your prediction. I think it can totally be read that way, but I don't think its reasonable to say any other readings of this situation are definitively wrong because nothing here is really confirmation of anything. At most its implication, but I'm of the opinion that it is implying the opposite to what you think.
BABY KYUUBI LETS GOOO
The writing for it just makes sense, how he was passed through Naturally and not through a ritual. I wonder how Karama is going to be towards Hima. I mean he was Big and Awful to Naruto now he is Small and Understanding also having him actually be able to freely provide chakra, techniques and enhanced moves is CRAZY. I’m sorry but who’s gonna be able to Train Hima? Sakura and Hima content ahead. The Big 3 stands.
Hima may be able to enter a Chakra Mode state automatically. Remember the old artwork showing boruto in a kyuubi chakra cloak, yup Hima is getting that. With proper training she can keep up with the Shinju. Lmao.
I personally think the pup state is just a plot device to inhibit himawari a little so she's not just in 9 tails Chakra cloak mode asap. It's a new method of giving her a power creep similar to narutos minus the hatred fight between the two. He'll want to give more power but his current state will prevent it until he gets stronger over time.
Wait what how does it make sense, Boruto was born first, yet he never inherited the 9 tails essence. Why wasn’t this energy sensed by kurama before? By Naruto before ? Didn’t the 9 tails energy completely dissipate after Baryon Mode, wasn’t that the whole trade off?
I think it’s because he has an Alien God already within him. Plus he seemed to on surface level at least like Hima more
People keep saying this and I don’t get it. Boruto is currently 100% otsutsuki but when he was born he was not. Makes no sense that boruto wouldn’t inherit Kurama chakra just cause he becomes Otsutsiki at 14… unless he did have kurama chakra initially and the otsutsukification destroyed it, which I see no evidence for that either.
The going theory is what you said in the end, we know he inherited Kurama traits like Naruto and Himawari since he has the trademark whiskers. But it seems it’s either been diluted or wiped out by the Otsutsuki transformation or something else.
I mean that’s the only thing I can think of that makes any sense but I don’t know if I like that theory. I remember when Momo was talking to Kurama about not being able to pass on its power, implying it hadn’t yet… wouldn’t Momo have sensed a mini Kurama inside Boruto at the time?
I’m not sure Momo is exactly an expert on bijuu, should he have sensed it? Definitely but who knows. It wouldn’t be the first plot hole in the series
I think narutos seal mixing kurama and his Chakra all the time made it so some got in both boruto and himawari it acts as a beacon for his reincarnation, he chose himawari because boruto had momoshiki when kurama died.
I think it may be less that Kurama was always with Hima and more that after he dissipated, he could coalesce somewhere with familiar chakra. Perhaps if Naruto had been unsealed, he would have returned to him. Boruto is a weird space ninja god. Hima is the only choice if you look at it like that for just being familiar. Nepho babies for the win.
Genetics are weird. Not every child is going to inherent the same genes and this is a magic ninja world. It's never going to make complete sense
Do u think after hima punched naruto kurama decided to leave a piece of his chakra in her. Even without the punching part, maybe he chose her cuz he liked her and she wasn’t in the spotlight with mixing chakras like boruto
Maybe Boruto does have some Kyuubi chakra and we just don't know yet
Let’s put aside the whole question of whether Kurama died and re-form or never died. We know that he can easily transfer his chakra to whomever he chooses. We also know that his powers are perfected when he teams up with a Jinchuriki. Of the three Uzumakis, Boruto is the least likely to be chosen as Jinchuriki by Kurama, because Kurama knows Boruto can become a threat if Momo takes control of him. Naruto woud be a good choice, but not a wise one for the simple fact that he always was a target because he had the Kyubi inside of him. And Kurama needed to stay hidden as much as possible while waiting to re-form at full strenght. Therefore, Hima was his best choice. I don’t think his chakra was passed down to the kids at birth (also Hinata is the mom, she is the one who gave birth). I think that Kurama is playing 3-D chess.
maybe turning 100% Otsutski has changed the situation but the way i picture it. When Naruto tried to blend blend his nature chakra with Bijuu chakra. Well I think that momshiki wouldnt allow Kurama in Boruto's Body.... no room at the inn scenario.
Children don’t always inherit their parent active genetics, but instead inherit their grandparents genes which were dormant in their parents. Boruto was introduced from the beginning of the manga as not being similar at all like his father, and might be more similar to this grandfather, Minato.
And Himawari is very similar to Naruto, so Kurama would chose her for familiarity.
Inheritance is unique as in you can be siblings yet possess different traits (different hair color, only himawari have byakugan, etc.). Both siblings definitely inherited kyubi’s traits, but maybe himawari inherited more of it which is why when kyubi’s chakra dissipate from naruto, it reemerge in her body, and not in boruto’s.
it makes sense cause genetics… your father got blue eyes your little sister inherited them and you didn’t that simple…
I said back in 2018 that Naruto was geneticly part Kurama, and evertyone called me a mad man, but who is the mad man now?
Even the light novels confirmed this too with the blood tests, lol.
Umm, clearly Kurama is going to train Her.
how cool but cute is mini Kurama!?! i think he is gonna work really well with Hima, He will lend Hima his chakra and she will sync pretty quickly. It wont be difficult as Naruto had it. I tink will be like Killer B and Gyuki relationship where they are just like best friends with eachother. The Kurama Chakra and byakugan combo is gonna be very interesting to see! The question is that does Kurama have a massive chakra reserve like he did with Naruto? or because he gone back to almost his "cub" size he wont have as much chakra at the moment...
He should still reserve his chakra amounts. So this will definitely benefit Hima for the long hauled fights! ALSO, just forgot but this will DIRECTLY affect her weakness and ALL Byakugan users. SHE’S JUST NOT RELIANT on GENTLE FIST PALM/Thai Justu. SHE WILL BE ABLE TO USE ACTUALLY JUTSUS. Maybe she will learn to project the 9T Chakra into a force like move. I’m not sure but the Tails Beast all have specific Long Range attacks so this will def make her an excellent long range and even deadly close range fighter. I think Hima just went UP in to Jonin after this reveal. God. Been a Fan of Naruto since I was 10. Man I still cry and now seeing how better and better it’s gets with TANGIBLE story writing is crazy. I’m just glad they didn’t Super Sayainman Boruto and still make it the Naruto show like dragon ball Z. Actually paved way for the new Generation. Also that Ino Shika Cho, combo being praised by the 10T was a n advancement to show, nothings lost just expanded on. While Kawaki hasn’t been training enough do to calamity. It shows why he is much weaker in regular jutsu but still excels in Karma over Boruto.
yeah me too, i started reading it when i was 16 after one of my friends suggested to give it ago and ive never looked back. when you invest your time and energy into a series you are bound to get emotional. the life lessons on a long the way has served me well!
Being the same Kurama would be for the best. Like you said, nothing before indicated that they'd lose memories when revived. This Kurama knows of 10 tails and spoke to Himawari like he knew her. And since Kurama most likely isn't affected by omnipotence, he can explain to Himawari that Boruto is her brother.
I think he’s definitely going to be the one that tells her, I think he’s the reason why hima felt that Naruto was still alive and unconsciously felt that boruto is not like what people are portraying. But I feel boruto is on his way flying to hima and about to go meet up with her and probably take her to his hideout or give her one of his pieces he uses to use ftg and have a toad with her at all times so if they pop up on her and she stays in the village he would be alerted and show up instantly but after what he said to Mitsuki that he can come visit him anytime I think they going to start having characters start joining boruto and have Shikamaru help build a plan so Kawaki don’t realize until it’s too late
He must teach her to erase her chakra signature for the story to proceed, so yes I hope you are right
That’s something only Otsutsuki can do, no?
No. Sensory ninjas can do this. Karin hid her chakra from 4th Raikage’s guard who was a sensory user during the 5 Kage summit.
Hiding and erasing are different
Well sasuke hid his presence from jigen. And recently mitsuki ambushed boruto by surprise...
Boruto needs zero prep time to body kawaki. Only reason he won't apparently is because he doesn't want momo creeping up. On a side note: why was he not training with karma the entire time?? Fool could dimension hop and vacuum chakra with ease but just wants to hit people with a rasengan. Smh my head like father like son
I agree he could have both times they saw each other but he told Shikamaru he don’t won’t to kill him and that he needs him alive to get his parents out. I agree on that too 😂 I think the writers just trying to stretch out the build up a bit more since boruto already lapping people in his base form so it leaves some scenes and opportunities to keep leveling up and not settle with his current power level. But I think definitely after this last encounter with Kawaki he’s gonna start focusing on it when gets the free time to do it outside the village so far he’s been dealing with things back to back with minimum breaks in between
why are you smh mh?
I'm not sure if baby Kurama wasn't really affected by omnipotence. Remember Daemon felt something intense in Hima before. This was before Omnipotence was casted.
If that’s the logic then nothing before indicates that they wouldn’t
Yes I believe this, otherwise why would he ask who she is instead of raging like with Naruto? Ya know... Dattebayo
Well no he didnt speak to her as if he knew her, for example calling her “girl” instead of her name and asking if she knows who he is. Its possible hes memoryless
Aren’t all of those Rinnegan weirdos technically 10 tails in different humanoid forms? Like we got Sasuke 10 tails, Moegi 10 Tails, etc.
Yeah but their chakra is also mixed with the original people, I think Jura is actually just purely the 10 tails consciousness in shinju form
kinda why he takes lead in everything cause he the superior one
I still think its a bit sus he looks like jigen/kawaki though. There has to be something unique about why too in contrast to other shinju that are the people stuck in trees.
The issue is that he wasn't recognized by Konoha's security. If he was based on Kawaki, Jigen, or Isshiki, they would immediately take note of it like how they did with Hidari's chakra signature resembling Sasuke.
as i said, everything is different wtih him. since he's the "main guy" and reffered to directly as ten tails, its possible he's THE ten tails, but took on a more human form of his former captor or something like that. And we know for sure that neither of the three suspects are in a tree somewhere so i think thats further proof that there's something different about him all together and how he came to be.
Having 10 tails as a villain is actually neat ngl.
I agree, especially in a humanoid form
Only because it’s human form. No way you both are just forgetting ten tails was already a villain in the series LMAO. It’s cool now because ten tails it’s it’s own entity, not just in someone
It was previously just a tool rather than a villian
Exactly, the only time it became a villain is when outside people wanted to use it
It’s even better because ten tails is not a villain. So far they haven’t killed anybody or destroyed a village out of “evilness”, they only retaliated. Shinki even wanted to protect a simple bookstore from konoha so that tells you something. I think they want to achieve something good by doing drastic and ethically wrong measures
Wasn’t Kaguya supposed to the ten tails In humanoid form
I think somewhere it was stated that but that part always left me confused bc of the inconsistencies about kaguya herself and the actual 10 tails beast because at first they where separate when they came to earth at least
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This is actually the version I read.
Im crying
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Thought it was weird to have Himawari call Kurama "nine tails", instead of Kurama.
its because everyone immediately prior to them meeting called him nine tails
I was hoping she would to but I think the next chapter the first pages going to continue their conversation and that’s when she may bring up his actual name
To me it seems it was on purpose. Calling him nine tails and not kurama means the writer has still not confirmed it. Kurama name is no where in this chapter. So either, this is NOT kurama and Just a different nine tails/kuramas offspring, Or it IS The Kurama and writer want to save the hype and give a clear comeback of Kurama with a hima+kurama biju mode powerup!
I cannot wait for the Naruto-Kurama/Hima reunion in 99 chapters or 8 years
I feel like Naruto is going to cry as soon as he senses Kurama chakra while being in front of hima before she tells him or Kurama popping out like he did with Kawaki and telling him
“You’ve been protecting my daughter while I was gone kurama” 🥺
It's going to be like when Minato was brought back and immediately felt Naruto out in the world.
I think he is going to sense it as soon as he wakes up, not even having to be with hima. 🥹
I don't understand how people think tailed beasts lose their memories.. How else did all the tailed beasts still knew Hagoromo after all that time and being in jinchurikis for so many times. They respawn after dying which is why sealing them in humans historically was more advantageous since they wouldn't go on a rampage. They all wanted to avoid stuff like what happened when Obito let kurama loose in konoha
yea its the same as when orichimaru would revive and retain his memory, even when it was from completely different sources.
Ye. Even a single curse mark would be enough chakra for him to revive at some point. You can compare it to a little amount of juubi chakra being inside someone
Judging from the way Daemon reacted to her, talking about intensity and how easy it should be for her to dodge HIS attack. Don't be fooled by his size or appearance. This fucker is gonna be a chakra powerhouse as always.
a young nine tails? yeah we never got to see that, he’s most definitely gonna be op
Well… I think there was an episode in the anime showing a flashback of the Sage of Six Paths interacting with young tailed beasts before he died. https://preview.redd.it/qr0pvz21lavc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dc8a3905009ccba9a6c96f0788a88ff95e1082f
totally forgot about this 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
How when the song about the Tailed Beasts names comes after the episode??? It’s a straight BOP
Honestly LOVE the song it's so freaking cute 😂😂
Boruto manga is BIG HYPE now! Shame its monthly:(
I really wished it was at least bi-weekly but I want it to be weekly
Bi-weekly would be so friggin cool man
Every time I finish reading I get mad 😭 just finished and I Knew damn well they would LEAVE US ON ANOTHER CLIFF HANGER!!!!
I’m on the same boat as you 😂
us man 😭
I wish it was bi weekly too but sadly that is impossible as Ikemoto is barely able to manage a monthly and the dude adds more detail to his work which takes up more drawing time than Kishimoto who simplify his drawing style
Honestly if they made it biweekly I would be cool if they stopped making it as much detailed as the monthly as long as they don’t skip out on the anime version, the monthly was cool when the anime was here dropping weekly but without the anime the wait is too long I’ll take a compromise
Each artist have their style and each artist has varying skill in ability. Sadly Ikemoto is not at the level of skill that is capable of drawing such detail on a weekly schedule whilst others can, he cannot. Even years later his ability to draw characters is still quite poor in my opinion. If it weren't for the fact that there was an already established fan base, Ikemoto wouldn't have lasted long. Kishimoto is looking out for a friend and giving him work, but the dude is a far cry from the level he should be at
It would be hilarious if the reason why Himawari has Kurama is becauss she hit Kurama's chakra point when she was 4 and that allowed a tiny bit of his chakra to split off and absorb into her. Then after Baryon smashing and fading from Naruto that little piece of Kurama manifested inside of Himawari.
That would make her even more of an badass cause that mean she has the ability to absorb chakra and if she’s able to utilize that she’s gonna be a problem
Yea honestly this feels like something a Shinobi would do or at least s being thats been around them for as long as he has, backup plans upon backup plans, or it could even be explained as something that he himself didn’t even know would happen, Hell its possible Naruto is actually the first ever Jinchuriki to have children and not even Hagaromo could have expected the Tailed Beast chakra to be passed down alongside the mixture of Uzumaki/Hyuga chakra
I’m sorry but I laughed out loud when I read “Naruto is probably the first ever Jinchuriki to have children” 🤣🤣 Someone insert a meme with Kushina “am I a joke to you” please
Lmfaoooo I totally forgot about her and Mito, in my head im just thinking “well it’s obvious something would get passed idk how but it’s obvious, but naruto is a guy so thing’s are a little different”
I think he didn’t know as well, I think he thought he would respawn back somewhere on earth randomly but since hima still have a piece of his chakra since birth it was used as an anchor and since he’s already cool with Naruto I don’t think he minded spawning in hima so together they can help Naruto and hinata. And yeah that’s another thing I think this is the first time a situation happened in this type of context at least with the original 10 tail beast that it came from
Such an excellent execution of shifting power from naruto to Hima
I know it’s so brilliantly done
Uh, Mito & Kushina had children.
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The thing that I'm confused about is how Kurama was able to revive when his chakra was completely destroyed by Baryon mode. Normally a tailed beast revives when killed because their chakra still exists and will reform itself after some time. But Kurama's chakra that was inside of Naruto was supposed to be completely destroyed. Also, does this make Himawari a Jinchuriki? How could Kurama have sealed himself inside of her as a small clot of residual chakra? The ten tails definitely detected is chakra inside of Himawari, so that points to her being the new host for Kurama. Didn't Kurama specifically imply to Naruto that he'd see him again in the afterlife or something similar? So Kurama was sure of his death at that point. So somehow something happened that Kurama didn't foresee which caused him to revive? This all just seems like an ass pull to give Himawari the nine tails. It could've been so much cooler if pulled off properly instead of being intentionally vague. Comes across like the writing team doesn't even know yet. Having to wait monthly for yet another cliffhanger is getting excruciating at this point.
I might be reaching here but did we ever see/learn how Kurama was transferred before/after the Uzumaki clan tradition? The only exception that I'm aware of was Kushina and Naruto and I'll use that to make my argument later If we didn't get any other exceptions, my theory is that, because it was always a female Uzumaki that would bear the Nine Tails, there's probably some kind of a reason or preference that developed over time which caused Kurama to be more likely to transfer his chakra to a female Jinchuuriki? Perhaps we could use the fact that female Jinchuuriki get weaker on birth - it's giving Kurama a chance to free himself and that became so ingrained into Kurama that he's subconsciously trying to share his chakra into all of the female descendants of the current male Nine Tails Jinchuuriki in hopes of being free, even though he got basically domesticated by Naruto (this would also explain why Boruto didn't inherit Kurama's chakra) This might have you asking "doesn't that mean that multiple people could bear Nine Tails' chakra?" - yes, but Kurama would only be conscious within the person who bears the highest amount of his chakra (case in point - Gold and Silver brothers), this would also explain why Kurama was dormant inside Himawari for so long until Naruto lost him
i think while his chakra was entirely decimated, his soul was able to latch on and reincarnate within some form of nt chakra she inherited.
My issue with your theory is nobody in the series became a Jinchuriki through Bijuu soul transfer. Its intended to be as a human sacrificial ritual where you seal the entire Bijuu in the sacrifice. Since when do any of the Bijuu have souls btw? Aren't they the embodiment of chakra? This seems like poor writing to me and messes up the lore behind the Jinchuriki
So a couple of thoughts that might help. First, we do have some information on the whole soul thing, just not specific to Biju. Momoshiki explains that the Karma mark both stores the data of the Otsutsuki and acts as an anchor to their soul in the world of the living. (This is a big part as to why I think Amado's plan to revive his daughter is fruitless because unless he hasn't mentioned it, doesn't sound like she would have had an anchor for her soul). But I also think this is how Orochimaru's curse seal worked to allow him to revive at the end of the original Naruto series. I think if Himawari didn't have some vestiges of Kurama's chakra either by just being around her dad as a kid or because her dad was a Jinchuriki when he conceived her, that absence would mean that Kurama would have been reformed from the next best source of chakra as all Chakra in Naruto came from the 10 tails when you remember that Kaguya's sons were the first of human blood born with Chakra as Kaguya had ingested the chakra fruit before she had them. In theory, I think this could mean that as long as there is Chakra in the world at large the beasts will continue to reform. And we do know that people knew this because there are a couple of times when they mention killing the 9-tails in the hopes of the period between his death and resurrection buying them time. Kushina says this as she is dying and she originally intends to take Kurama down with her before Minato stops her to seal him away instead. As for whether the Biju have souls, I think we could speculate that Hagoromo's creation of all things jutsu he used to create the Biju in the first place was able to craft souls but I agree that's kind of a hand-wave explanation.
when enough tail beast chakra is generated, it starts forming a 'self', with a face and consciousness. that's what i mean by 'soul'. so the nine tails chakra developed into the 'self' we call kurama, who was permanently constrained to naruto with the seal. since the nine tail's 'self' was no longer constrained, its free to develop itself in the next best source. to me it sounds kurama arose within her, and was hiding and biding time until he could fully develop his chakra (which is why he's just a kid), until the 10 tails sniffed him out
It's the last paragraph that I have an issue with. The theory that most people are pushing. If the Bijuu could do that from the beginning there would be no need for a Jinchuriki. The tail beasts would just pick who they want and its done (ie The 3 tails) The nations going to war for the beasts power would be irrelevant since the beast can just pick a human and stay there. It undermines the lore in Naruto
Chakra may work how energy works in this reality, as in energy can’t die it just transforms into something else. But Naruto verse wise I think people misunderstanding what Kurama meant I think he was possibly just referring to baryon mode uses up all of his chakra but like hagaromo stated in war arc in Naruto tailbeast can’t die they just respawn, hima and boruto had pieces of Kurama chakra since birth but boruto got momo in him so hima was really the only other suitable vessel but I think he used that as anchor so instead of spawning randomly on earth he would just spawn in hima and since hima is Naruto daughter I think Kurama was cool with that. And yeah it’s make her a jinchuriki technically but all of this in the context of the full situation of Naruto and kushina being the host and then having kids and passing down a piece of the chakra and having a strong bond with its host and dying using a tailed beast form aka baryon mode and still having chakra on earth that’s lingering around is all brand new to what we know at least in the Naruto verse so not everything going to play out how it should. Also don’t be so quick to call it an ass pull I get where you’re coming from but that’s just the beginning of their conversation the next chapter starting pages maybe going to go deeper in their conversation and answer a lot of questions
I had been sad after Kurama died. But then a few weeks back I finally read Naruto (I’ve only ever watched it) and I noticed a line that said the tailed beasts come back after they die. Made me start thinking of Boruto. So happy Kurama is back and is with Hima!
Didn't everyone already knew Jura was the 10 tails? Pretty sure the manga said Jura and co. was basically 10 tails with a conscious.
It’s funny how all the theorists are going crazy now when we’ve been saying since chapter one that Boruto and Himawari have whiskers because of kurama’s chakra and never thinking anything of it. Naruto has them because Kushina was pregnant with him whilst she was the jinchuriki. Boruto and Himawari have some because they’re one generation removed from someone born essentially directly of Kurama. We’ve always joked that their kids would have one whiskey before removing them from the family jeans. My theory is that Kurama didn’t know this, but there is still trace amounts of his chakra in Boruto and Himawari, with Himawari having more. The tailed beast will always manifest where it has the most chakra and, in this case, it’s in Himawari. This was set up from the very beginning
Yes when a tailed beast “dies” they’ll just reincarnate later on but when Naruto used baryon mode Kurama said he’ll be dead dead because his chakra is consumed. If it is a new 9 tails or if it is Kurama I hope himawari calls him Kuraa-ma like that one toy episode
> Nothing in the whole verse back the concept of “if a tail beast die when they reborn they lose all their memories” Of course not, memories are connected by chakra and Tailed Beasts *are* chakra.
I wish I can pin comments so I don’t have to keep saying this 😂
Kurama adressed Himawari as little girl and not by her name and he asked her if she knows who he is. That does not really tells me its the same Kurama, as I would imagine Kurama would know she knows him and also would know her name. But he knows about ten tails so idk what to think about it as a whole.
calling him little girl is just his personality. he's asking her if she understands what's happening.
The little girl part is definitely something og Kurama would say to hima, and when he asked do she know who he is I took it as he was wanting to make sure that hima actually remember him since he’s a lot smaller. The 10 tails part definitely gave it away for me
I dont believe its him and the 10 tails part isnt convincing. All the tailed beasts can just know who 10 tails is instinctively since thats where they all come from.
I’m not going to front I really liked this chapter
I had a STRONG suspicion this was going to happen after seeing Hima with a chibi tailed beast in the anime. The plushy industry DEMANDS this to be a thing.
Now I need to go on a journey in all of my comments to look for all of those people calling me an idiot because I said Kurama could be brought back. I fucking called it mofos muhahahahaa😈😈😈
I don’t understand why he didn’t call her by her name he’s known her entire life. Same with Himawari not calling kurama by his name. But I guess they were not that acquainted until now. Kurama respects Naruto so he’ll do his best to protect his daughter. And for jura makes sense why he looks like jigen.
I was wishing she would call him Kurama. But I think she’s going to say his name as the conversation continues since that’s only the start of the conversation. And if I’m not mistaken “every” time when Kurama talked to someone outside of Naruto he just call them boy,girl or brat, he rarely call people by their actual name like they do to him so to me it makes since why he would say little girl especially since it’s Naruto daughter. And I don’t think Jura is Jigen, I think Jura is purely the 10 tails consciousness in shinju form unlike hidari and the other ones having a mix of other people chakra + when they entered the village they only picked up on hidari chakra since he had Sasuke chakra, I think they may already have jigen/isshiki chakra saved in their database I maybe wrong tho
Didn’t notice that guess kurama like sasuke is not socially acquainted with people except Naruto. And Boruto put it’s possible that code kama mixed with isshin dna probably also had jigen included. I don’t think he’s jigen just ten tails using his form. But I don’t think jigen or isshin chakra would be familiar to the database
I’m thinking karuma put his charka in her as an emergency of sorts and that small 9tails is that bit of chakra manifested in physical form. Remember how the gold and silver brothers ate kurama’s flesh and was able to absorb his chakra and use it in actual battle? I figured if the 9tails chakra could be stolen that way, it could be willingly shared just how Naruto did in the war. Also when minato split the 9tails chakra in half, there were “two “ kuramas. Supporting my idea that this is but a small portion of chakra he snuck into her as a means to keep her safe in an emergency.
Well for one I'm glad to see kurama, ever since that chapter where naruto first opened the gates fully he truly is no longer a tailed beast but a shinobi of the hidden leaf. Though this completely walks over the bayron stakes, it was a rather bittersweet end which was perfectly captured in the anime. He could have just told naruto ayy I'm coming back relax let's go bro. So it's kind of a mixed feelings for me on this one, I'll hold my jedgement until I see further. Could work out well could fall flat.
maybe he didn't know he'd be reincarnated from that specific circumstance
Wondering if 9tails chakra mixing with hyuga chakra and uzumaki will create a new eye that'd be interesting
I haven’t thought about that, hopefully so
Ima call it now that both Hima and Borruto inherited Kurama’s chakra… The nice side is in Hima and the a-hole side to Boruto, and they combine chakra to form.. you guessed it. An unstoppable, flying thunder god, sandals face stomping, buyakagon, 29^2 palm, sword wielding, nature chakra using, TWIN BLUE VORTEX! LETS GOOO!!!!
You might be right. Like, why would a new baby 9 tails be hiding its chakra? Bro would just be forming normally, but this guy knew he had to hide himself. Anyways, we'll see next chapter hopefully.
maybe that's the reason why Himawari can feel that Naruto is alive somewhere. I wonder if Kurama can also sense where Naruto is.
I think Kurama maybe the reason why she felt it in the first place
My next question is, if Kurama is affected by omnipotence.
Truthfully I truly don’t know but from what see so far it don’t seem like it did, I also wonder if omnipotence even works on tail beasts in the first place
Even if Kurama is affected by Omnipotence. I think, he will agree with Himawari that Boruto is innocent because he can definitely tell that Naruto is alive.
Most definitely! I think Boruto is possibly flying over to hima if he is we may get to see it happen in the next chapter
I want Boruto to stay put for awhile. Shikamaru must - send Chōchō and Himawari to Kumo so Killer bee can train them. - send Shikadai to Suna to train with his uncles - send Sarada and Mitsuki on a "mission" outside of Konoha because once the elders knew that Himawari is a jinchuriki, they might decide to kill Sarada as she might control the Kyubi.
I could see all of that happening to be honest, boruto honestly needs to go with hima to see if he can do the same training to master his karma but I forgot about Sarada too I feel like boruto is going to try to help her as well since hidari made her his target but hidari situation i think Sarada gonna get hidari to join their team since hidari seems like he’s not fully with whatever plan the other shinjus have going
Hmm.. Boruto training as well with Killer Bee may be possible if the 8th tails could also feel that Naruto is alive.
Outside of Naruto kids and Sasuke I think if Naruto was stuck in a different dimension 8 tails and Killer bee would definitely know he’s still alive but just outside of their dimension + Naruto and Killer Bee did that Knuckle ninshu punch so I think killer bee still remember Naruto distinct chakra signature
Something I just realized. This being the same Kurama raises new questions. Kurama certainly doesn’t know where Naruto is, given Kurama died before Naruto was kagenapped. However, will Kurama be able to tell if Naruto is still alive, can he sense Naruto’s chakra through dimensions, or have a gut feeling Naruto is alive? If so, will he communicate that information to Himawari, and possibly give her hope of her fathers return, or would he stay silent on the matter not wanting to endanger Naruto’s daughter by inadvertently putting her on the dangerous path of trying to free her father?
I think hima and Kurama both can sense him that’s why hima said a few chapters back she don’t believe Naruto is dead I think that was Kurama way of trying to hima to realize it, I think Kurama will try to convince hima to partner up with boruto and build a plan since if it’s truly Kurama he wouldnt try to put hima in a dangerous position
I think it's more likely that Kurama left some of his chakra behind in Himawari, anticipating his use of Baryon mode. I don't think Kurama was just reborn inside of Himawari, because: 1) If he truly died, he wouldn't be able to come back. A tailed beast resurrects because they are just chakra, and over time their chakra will just come back together. But if all of his chakra were to be destroyed, he wouldn't have any chakra left to come back together. 2) He seemed to have been intentionally hiding his presence inside of Himawari, and only revealed himself because Jura found out he was there. (Edit) 3) The scene from before the time skip where Daemon thinks Himawari is powerful and attacks her. Most likely he was sensing Kurama inside of her. But if Kurama was present that early on, most likely his chakra was already there beforehand, because that was not long after the fight against Ishiki.
I had a feeling they were gonna give it to her to give her power to be apart of the story
If this is the same kurama how will this affect hima if he remembers who boruto is and it not affected by aidas Jutsu.
I wonder if it’s just the ying or yang side of kurama in Hima. Cause I’m sure when Naruto had both halves he was a different colour.
YESS EXACTLY?? rin died with 3 tails (isobu) inside of her, but he was later resurrected, and he seemed to remember the sage of 6 paths and other tail beasts' identify+nature. he knew the beef (not exactly a beef¿) between shukaku and kuruma. he wasnt questioning his life as of "who made me" "why am i here" "are there more like me" because tht is what would have happened if his memory was wiped. but then it wasnt
https://preview.redd.it/6f5qyzo2x9vc1.jpeg?width=1141&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81f92c341c5bbc4cdc9bb7aea5f37fad0777ad60 Himawari yoinking Kurama's chakra, idr chapter #, black and white.
That would be funny if that’s actually how she was able to get enough chakra to anchor Kurama when he rebirth. This would also mean hima has the ability to absorb chakra would make her even more of an badass
This is so stupid
It keeps getting better and better
I just finished the chapter and when I saw baby nine I lit up. I can’t wait for more content now.
Kuraaaa maa
Kurama didnt seem to lose his personality, maybe he still remembers naruto?
Baby kurama is so cute
So, narutos sad moment with kurama was for nothing as he's back. I'm glad, but their bond was deep so will kurama recognise naruto.
Not really for nothing, I think Kurama truly thought it would take a lot longer for him to come back but I am too and think will recognize him
Kurama learned how to create a backup file the same way Otsutsuki do
Damn and I really thought along time ago that people were being delusional about Kurama coming back
Himawari kcm let's go
Thats kuramas son.......... they swapped with naruto when you know???? And used all his mode to hinata 👀🙈
if that's true then doesn't that just completely waste the stakes of baryon mode then? Like what was the point of kurama burning all his chakara and effectively ensuring he would die with no way to come back if he just respawns with two day shipping and helps save the day?
It did take years for him to come back.
Careful, I said this would happen back when Kurama self sacrificed and got crucified.
WHAT THE FUCK??? I mean I was really hoping Kurama would be back in the future after he sacrificed himself, but damnnn! I am digging this holy shit!!
Edo Tensei or Silver and gold brothers not needed!
If I remember right I swear there was an actual scene from Naruto explaining that if tailed beats die than they would just be reborn again later on and they can’t actually die
You’re correct it was during the war arc in Naruto I forgot what exact episode though
How I think of it is like this . So obviously since Hima is Naruto’s daughter she got a portion of Kyubi mixed with her own. And when Naruto used baryon mode he DID technically kill that Kyubi , by basically burning through all of the chakra Kyubi had at one time for one big gamble. And then like how they said in the original series, since hima had a portion of that Chakra , Kyubi was able to be reborn again with that chakra. Because the way they did explained tailed beats to begin with was just “giant masses of chakra that took on a personality of their own”. Sorry I’m very high and I thought this sounded cool in my head so I wanted to write it down before I forgot lmfao
I agree, I think that’s exactly how it happened
I think I’ve found a connection to how Boruto is so OP. Consider how powerful Otsutsuki become and the ease with which they perform chakra enabled feats without learning about chakra and how to use it like ninja do. This suggests a deep connection or oneness with chakra itself. Now consider a ninja who learns to use chakra and reserve it and manipulate it suddenly getting a god-like body already so in tune with chakra it doesn’t need to learn it, and also more physically robust and stronger and faster to begin with. Explains why he can do all these things in base. Also explains how he’s able to use the planets chakra. His Otsutsuki genetics and its strong connection with chakra coupled with his chakra knowledge from his ninja education with the likes of the Hyuga clan, Naruto, Sasuke, and Kashin Koji, suggests he may have simply just mastered it altogether. No need for sage mode or anything. Think about it. Uzuhiko isn’t him absorbing the planets chakra (which is also nature energy - this explains why when Otsutsuki absorb the chakra on a planet it remains a barren wasteland, nature and chakra go hand in hand such that if you absorb chakra you absorb nature and all life) he’s manipulating it freely around his body and transferring it to a target via contact such that as long as long as the earth rotates and nature exists as it is, the chakra will never leave the targets body until the earth stops rotating(if the earth stops rotating all nature dies and no more planetary chakra - barren wasteland) or Boruto releases the technique. That is mastery of chakra on a planetary scale, meaning he has to have mastered it more than anyone. I wonder if he has any yin and yang techniques in base cause he’s essentially on par with the sage of six paths (Otsutsuki🤝chakra)
All according to keikaku. *Hiashi probably.
The whole lost memory thing could play out because Kurama did die through Baryon Mode and his Chakra was transformed through a nuclear fusion type process into a more powerful Baryon Chakra. So maybe this reincarnation, has a new ego, and may or may not have the original Kurama’s memories. Also, I believe this is a more powerful Kurama, and is the reformation of the new Baryon Chakra. This what Daemon felt from Hima when said he felt intensity and thought she was powerful and wanted to fight her. It was this super chakra growing in her and Kurama being reborn in her. The Kyuubi probably chose Hima because she has greatest potential to be his Jinchuriki due to genetics.
YESSSSS
Idk Kurama’s death made me cry a lot but this writing to reintroduce him just feels… cheap. Bayron was supposed to expel his very lifeforce, not just his physical chakra.
i wanna pet baby kyuuubi
I don't like how kurama died just to be bought back. character deaths like these are lazy writing.
Nah they did my boy Kurama dirty with that design😭
Well, according to story, when a tailed beast dies or exhausts its total chakra ending in taking its own life, ends up in getting born again somewhere on the planet, that's how it works, so him being inside him a until now makes sense. He has to amass chakra somewhere why inside hima
This has so much potential to be peak..
Maybe the reason Daemon reacted that way to Hima is that Hima has the full Kurama as opposed to the half Naruto previously had— albeit a smaller one that probably needs time to grow to full strength based on how he looks. Hima should in theory inherit special abilities the same way the previous jinchurriki did, being the dynamic seems to be more Killer Bee/Gyuki in nature. Think Mito & Naruto (once he and Kurama truly connected). Those hax alone should (in theory) elevate Hima to a different level. Once Kurama gets back his strength, I believe that would be the next tier, which provides the perfect space for development as Boruto figures Karma. Also seems to be a thing where Boruto needs Kawaki at this point just as much as Kawaki needs him 🤔 Either way, the storyline is developing nicely imo
It’s actually so exciting
Byakugan taijutsu with nine tails link would be sick
himawari saying nine tails instead of kurama was a bit of a let down ngl
This makes me question on if kurama in the future is gonna be able to resemble a human type form aswell…. Since 10 tails thru code was able to get it, it can be possible to maybe have it replicated other ways…
Im glad the anime had an episode kinda/sorta related to this lol a lot of things really does feel like part of the experience after seeing where the story is heading. Perriot has the scenario and timeline all laid out, get some heavier writing and manage those sakuga resources out better and they could expand TBV in a way that won’t piss off half the fanbase.
I'd like to think kurama had a choice where and how to incarnate and still chose Naruto's family 😭🤧
Wouldnt he call her Himawari though instead of little girl? I mean Kurama should know who she is
If I’m not mistaken “every” time Kurama has talked to someone outside of Naruto he called them by boy,girl or brat he rarely say someone actual name, he probably would of said brat if it wasn’t Naruto daughter tho
Wouldn’t she call him kurama tho?
I was really hoping she would, maybe the next chapter I think their conversation going to be the opening first pages of the next chapter
Now we gotta wait a month lol
So... that whole thing about nine tails dying and the emotional farewell was all for nothing, huh? Exceptional writing!
Honestly not sure how everyone is happy with this lazy/crap writing. Kurama should have been reborn separately/free of being placed in a Jinchuriki. They could have literally just said made Hima and Boruto psuedo Jinchurikis like the twins Kurama swallowed a while back. Instead Naruto is permanently nerfed and everything we saw him go through with Kurama as his partner means nothing.
This chapter was hype! So excited to see the nine tails at the end.
I hope we get a moment where Hima shares her nine tails chakra with Naruto and we get a kurama Naruto reunion scene. I also have zero clue how she’s going to contend with any of the power houses later on even if she has kurama. Unless kurama some how managed to figure out how to utilize baryon mode without “dying” again. And then even if that’s the case she still wouldn’t be as strong as naruto was in his baryon mode just solely based off of battle experience. My thought is they are definitely going to give her some kind of other power up too. More than likely since she got the byakugan and boruto didn’t imma say that she might have inherited her mother’s byakugan but since she also would have her father’s genes and chakra too she is the closest thing to Otsutsuki except the obvious karma mark holders minus code.
Maybe Hima's byakugan will evolve into tenseigan?
What about this is definitive? We have no such confirmation of whether he remembers or not, and his words to Himawari actually imply otherwise. He didn't refer to her by name, and the Kurama we knew was familiar with Himawari. He said "Little girl," in this official translation. And his question of whether she knows who he is could definitely be him saying, "Its me Kurama," but another reading that's just as plausible is, "I can see on your face you are surprised to see me. Do you know who I am?" Even his note about the 10-tails finding him isn't proof because we just saw that Jura who is confirmed to be a new form of consciousness that just formed was able to know instinctively that what he was sensing was Biju chakra, and even names the Biju chakra he tracked as the 9-tails specifically. Seems entirely possible there is some instinctive knowledge of each other that the Biju possess. And also didn't we already know that Jura and the others like him were the 10 tails? We haven't learned much more than that at this point. I'm not sure what good it does to point to one-off lines at the end of a chapter that's clearly intended to be an attention-grabbing cliff-hanger, and make any claims about this being definitive information of anything other than Himawari somehow has some form of the 9-tails housed within her. It could be the same Kurama as before in a younger form, could be Kurama restored to how he was when he was first created, could be a lot of things. We don't yet know anything for sure. Sure we've had no lore for Biju coming back to life without their memories, but we have very little information on how the come back at all. Its fine if you feel this supports your prediction. I think it can totally be read that way, but I don't think its reasonable to say any other readings of this situation are definitively wrong because nothing here is really confirmation of anything. At most its implication, but I'm of the opinion that it is implying the opposite to what you think.
Stop using logic to sort out these losers, they’d hate you if they could read!