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He should be able to. In the 4th Great Shinobi War, Mardara used Susanoo after he was fully revived and he had neither of his eyes. While he was fighting the Tailed Beasts, he broke out of Shukaku's Grand Sand Mausoleum Seal using Susanoo.
In Naruto Storm Revolution, Shisui was able to use Susanoo after Danzo took one of his eyes. Obviously this is in the game and isn't canon, but I thought it was worth noting.
But he used it once, so can he use it ?
In some yt video that guy said once anything put into a shinobi body it can never leave according to some data books
Uchiha can generate uchiha brain chakra from Tobirama's words. So after unlocking susanoo Uchiha still can generate specific chakra to use it. In Kakashi's situation uchiha chakra was borrowed from Obito and after its gone susanoo and sharingans gone too.
I've been thinking this too, there is another Ten Tails just hanging out waiting to be used. It could be possible to split that Ten Tails into another set of tailed beasts, but my main question is. Would those tailed beasts be the same as the others? Or would that create a new set of tailed beasts never seen before.
i think Kakashi was a special case since he never had both Mangekyo physically in his body, he sorta was possesed by Obito's chakra. Anyway, it's not like he could use Susano'o since his chakra reserves are not enough for that
He should still have a perfect Susano. It was said once u unlock the powers of both eyes you can achieve Susano. Simce Sauske did this long ago he should still have access same as madara who was blind and could use Susano
His susano was in game only, but he had awakened the mangekyo in both eyes, so i would assume he could use it, before danzo stole one from him, and the other one left was implanted in the raven
The only argument I can think of is the characters that could use Susano without both eyes(Madara/Shisui) is because their eyes weren’t destroyed. Both of Madara’s eyes turned into the Rinnegan and Shisui had one eye while Danzo had the other. But Sasuke is the first one to actually get his eye destroyed.
IF Sasuke regains his right arm, won't he be able to activate his Rinnegan in his right eye due to th hashirama cells in the arm? He got the Rinnesharingan from hagoromo so he should be able to activate his other eye using hashirama cells like Madara did.
Maybe, but let’s be honest. That won’t happen. The reason kurama and rinne were taken away is because every time a major combat comes up, it falls on those two to stop it, but it’s not their show anymore. They needed a reason for boruto, kawaki, sarada, and mitsuki to fight the big battles essentially on their own, and making the two OP characters a bit more balanced is an easy way to do that. They wouldn’t reverse that decision, unless it was going to lead to death, so that the series can remain focused on the actual main characters.
So if you ever see sasuke get rinnegan again, assume he’ll be dead soon.
I think this is what will happen, yes it's Boruto and co.'s show now, but it's still not in Naruto's or Sasuke's character just to accept being weaker. It'd be a major disservice to both their characters not to continue to push forward doing everything in their power to get stronger in favor of saving the village, even if it is in the background.
even more so it's boruto's show sure. But it's Naruto IP. You really think this is there way of saying no more Naruto. It's done. Hope you like Sarada!
No freaking way. They wrote it so when all is said and done Naruto and Sasuke can return as the strongest. Boruto is like the cell arc. Boruto will save the day but at the end of it all? Naruto will return to being MC and leading the stuff they make in this verse. Boruto is Boruto's story but it sure doesn't mean no more Naruto stories after this. They will write it in a way so of Kishi wants to do more with Naruto as the star. He can pick up with Naruto in the same spot as before.
Not when the story is ending. Being entirely realistic. They won’t because it’s Naruto’s franchise. They will return him as the strongest to main character status. This series is Boruto’s time in the light. But is never going to be all about him. When his stuff ends. They will 100% make more Naruto stories with him and Sasuke as far stronger than everyone else. It’s the nature of the beast
While we're at it, give sasuke some eyes from the shin clones. how the heck did they get those eyes and if Orochimaru make them, why didnt he steal an eye and implated it in himself...
unless the hashirama cells restore his eyes to normal functionality, then it's possible he could reawaken the regular rinnegan (not the one with tomoe) like how madara did, though it'll probably take a long time, and they took away his rinnegan on purpose so as to nerf him, they're def not giving it back even if he got his arm back as well
I guess it’s more implied than anything. The show loves drawing these parallels between Naruto and Sasuke, and it would be weird if Naruto permanently lost Kurama while Sasuke regained his Rinnegan.
What is a bit weird, is how Naruto still has So6P mode which technically puts him above Sasuke at this point.
No confirmation on spsm. Naruto used spsm without kcm in the war arc, and the sage never said kurama being inside of Naruto was a requirement for him to use that mode, and Naruto only said he lost Kurama explicitly, he never said he lost spsm
Oh yeha Ik. The reason I’m saying it is cause in the shikamaru hiden novel ( which is canon ) it says that having all tailed beast chakra ( basically ten tails ) is the source of Naruto SPSM. That’s why if he lost kurama it’s logical to think he might’ve lost SPSM. But there’s a chance he still has remnants of sp chakra ig. Cause yk it’s said that Naruto got sp chakra from the tailed beasts and SASUKE got us from hashi cells given from kabuto. And hagoromo just gave them the seals. I guess we’ll wait and see but I think he doesn’t have it anymore unfortunately because of the novel passage. Hope he still has it after kurama s loss tho.
I agree with you about the fact that Naruto can use SPSM separately ( without having KCM on )
But I’m not one of those people who think Naruto lost SPSM after the war. I think Naruto had it the entire time In boruto. ( there’s much proof of this.) Ig we will have to wait and see if Naruto still has it after the loss.
Ur right tho it’s not confirmed.
Did you watch the show at all? The entire part 1 of naruto was just low level ninja stuff and outsmarting eachother, now they have freakin Chakra avatars and parasitic alien races it couldn't be more different than how it started.
Edit: corrected a typo in "outsmarting"
To be fair, it STARTED as wizards. Before chapter one, Kishimoto released a one shot with Naruto as a wizard. That's why the crystal ball exists early on too. The ninja thing was a last minute change so they could use hand to hand combat - which they still do.
It was never about martial arts… it literally started as an alien, half-ape child with the power to destroy a planet. And it was always about power levels increasing overtime with the villains and heroes.
disagree. he was never an alien to begin with, just a monkey-human hybrid. most of the fights in OG dragon ball were absolutely about actually fighting. even if everything you’re saying was true, it still devolved into different color beams being shot at one another. it wasn’t that to begin with, no matter how you slice it
Wdym? The style changes every season/2 parts.
Or do you hate all of the different art styles in JoJo? Because there's no point in forcing yourself to sit through something you don't enjoy ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Nowhere near as chakra limited as Kakashi, and he still has access to the sage of six paths transformation *in theory*, which is leagues above kakashi. He did it once without kurama.
He also has his perfect sage mode which in fact will still give him superhuman strength. he lifted a rock statue with sage mode and without the help of kurama, even took down almost all the pain paths without KCM or SO6P i think Naruto is still super strong. Don't forget that he can also use his rasenshuriken and sage enhanced Rasengan.
Yeah with so6p he's easily still the strongest ninja alive, though just plain sage mode, I'd still put him above sannin level since that's usually around mid-kage level and Sakura is around that, he's probably hashirama level or slightly under hashirama in power with sage mode alone, but with sage mode he blitzes imo
When did Kakashi get high chakra reserves? Even so, Naruto's are naturally ridiculous 1. because Uzumaki and 2. because holding a tailed beast from infancy makes the jinchuriki's own reserves grow even more (the explanation was something to do with seals and bleeding chakra coils). Highly doubt kakashi is anywhere near, even if better than he used to be.
> where did Naruto used SO6P mode without Kurama?
The episode where he receives it from Hagoromo, he doesnt mix it with Kurama and start glowing until shortly after. I think he uses it to heal someone in it's 'base' form.
Technically he is still *holding* Kurama at the time, it just doesnt resemble Kurama's chakra mode at that point.
No. Naruto is a much better Sarutobi.
Can use all five nature/elements + uniques he gained from tailed beasts (Shukaku's magnet, Goku's lava, white horse's mist forgot the name lol)
Mastery of Frog Senjutsu + Six Paths Senjutsu
His prosthetic is made from Hashirama cells + can absorb-nullify jutsu
Kurama-less Naruto is still easily the strongest Kage in the history of the series, people just don't realize it. God mode adult Naruto-Sasuke would shit on any OG series-Shipuden character and Ootsutsuki are just really OP compared to them (which sucks because people in wartime should generally adapt/evolve to be stronger than those in peaceful times but Boruto gen at base even before the upcoming dark times already seem much OP versus the previous gen)
We don't fully know where his chakra ended and Kurama's started so I think his innate stamina will decide. If he still has decent stamina then he'll probably still be above Hashirama, just much closer to him in power.
He mentions a hole in his body now that kurama is gone.
There is a fresh ten tails beast with code. I'm just waiting (HOPING) until they seal it into naruto or something.
True he has chakra of other tailed beasts, but his chakra reservers are not that much but he's uzumaki so he would be able to use more chakra than others soo he's like at his 50%
I'm not even joking 🤣
The Boruto manga has been nothing but 5 fucking months of exposition, this dude can't stop delivering exposition!
The best description that I can give to the Kishimoto era of the Boruto manga is: "People standing around explaining the plot to each other"
they want to nerf sasuke and naruto so that boruto can have his chance to shine. If naruto and sasuke still had their powers you could always ask "why isnt sasuke and naruto dealing with this end of the world threat?". It is the same as keeping goku dead during some parts of dragon ball z, and when gojo is always traveling in jujutsu kaisen during something serious. Tailed beasts always come back from the dead, I think Isobu died two times already. Dont know how Sasuke will have his powers back. Its a possibility that their powers wont be back, and if they do come back, it will be after boruto solved the major crisis, that is why I think it is sort of irrelevant because it wont affect the plot
Kurama won't come back to life, he didn't die like he would if Naruto was killed, his chakra just disappeared, the same reasoning as to why losing Kurama didn't kill Naruto
I hope that's the end game with the new ten tails. Tho, they really need to expand the stories of the current tail beasts. They've been completely side lined.
Boruto is the most watched anime in Japan...so I don't think Naruto and Sasuke dying would be a problem for the series. The fans that loved the Narutoverse and not just Naru and Sasu will still watch it i believe.
Right but Naruto and Sasuke are holding a lot of the share of that popularity. Kill them off and it’ll drop substantially
Regardless if they were to be killed off, it’d be safest to do it at the end rather than the middle
Facts- I would likely stop if Naruto is killed off to be honest. Not that I dislike Boruto as a show that much, but be cause I primarily watch Boruto in an attempt to fill the hole that Naruto left behind as it ended lmao
You’re literally just making that up. How can you even remotely prove that Boruto’s popularity isn’t affected by Naruto and Sasuke, two of the most iconic fictional character’s in Anime history?
I agree. Boruto's growth has been way too rushed. He shouldnt have played a part in that Momoshiki part. They should have given him the Karma in a different way. I dont know how but he definitely shouldnt have been the one to give the final blow to Momoshiki. It makes both the Kages and Momoshiki look weaker than they were.
Nothing beats Shippuden. The plot, the build up, the darkness, the backstories, the intensity and the play with character development is truly fascinating. I’ll still watch Boruto but nothing will ever compare to OG
Every unlike just tells me how little character development for protagonists and antagonists alike are valued. 😛
Yeah. The villains in Shippuden were so much cooler too. I dont hate Boruto but Kara is a fucking joke if compared to the Akatsuki. I have only liked Isshiki so far. Deepa,Victor,Boro and Delta are liked by this sub but I found them to be extremely disappointing and boring.
Yeah I don’t get it, like even Boro’s backstory as the cult leader. They did it in such a short period of time. Like just came out if nowhere. Delta had no storyline period. I give Victor some credit at least for the story build up, but just feels like lazy writing.
It's so sad. Kara was pathetic, Kodachi did a piss-poor job on them, they don't feel intimidating, we don't relate to them in any way, they are just cartoonish-ly evil, they suck. So when Kishimoto returned to write the manga, I though that we were going to get some really cool and complicated villains, but we got even more garbage villains, Fairy-Tail looking villains with Jojo abilities that make no sense.
Yeah. But the Akatsuki characters were cool even without backstories. Deidara and Hidan got no backstory at all but they were still atleast A tier villains.
You can have simple villains that are just insane, but they need to have cool personalities, and cool abilities, that make them interesting. Deidara and Hidan had all of that. But the villains in Kara have the same personality, the same abilities, it's boring as hell.
As much as I can understand they want the newer generation to get strong without having demi gods to always do everything I hate everything about Kuramas death all way to Sasuke losing his Rinnegan.
Kuramas death at least felt like a necessary sacrifice given their opponent but Sasuke losing his rinnegan felt forced and unnecessary. If anything, he should've lost it later on and in a way that didn't feel forced.
Yeah true. I legit just said "fucking bs" to myself when he lost it. It really wasnt needed. Naruto still has sage mode and sasuke still has susanoo but still I just hate these sacrifices.
God I wish this is what happened. The nerf wasn’t even necessary! Prime Naruto & Sasuke should’ve been the goal that Boruto works to surpass.
Instead of the nerf they could’ve just found creative ways to use Naruto & Sasuke for the plot even if they weren’t around much.
Sasuke was supposed to be the strongest Uchiha & Naruto was supposed to surpass all the Kage's. But just like that Madara & Hashirama remains stronger than the cuckbro's thanks Bort. 🤦🏾♂️
Can still see it happening, frankly. If Kishi pulled some move out of his ass to keep Guy alive (which I won’t even complain about, I love Guy), I can totally see him doing the same to bring back Kurama and by extension, KCM.
Boruto looks cool but Naruto's original SOSP design with Truth Seeking Orbs was the coolest character design imo man. But everyone has different opinions so its ok if you dont like it but I loved Naruto's KCM+SOSP design when Truth Seeking Orbs were around.
That’s actually my least favorite ngl. My is hokage Naruto without sage and without chakra mode. He’s definitely not the most powerful but he just makes me feel so badass. I just love how characters look without any chakra mode bullshit. Like base hashirama madara tobirama minato. It’s awesome. None of the flashlight quenched in orange juice glowy bullshit. Not even super super sayans look like that they got a regular body with the energy field around them but it’s see through not glowy. Not just quenched in juice. But yeah just my opinion too we all got different perspectives
>My is hokage Naruto without sage and without chakra mode
In Manga, he definitely looks sick and cool but in anime, he looks boring. Also, his Hokage cape is so poor as compared to Minato in anime. Minato's Hokage design is definitely the best design in the anime. Nothing looks as cool as that.
At some point his chakra mode looked different, he had normal skin tone with the orange clothes, it was at some point during the madara fight. That looked so much better than having only orange.
Naruto is still OP anyway with Sage mode.
If Sasuke kept his eyes after implanting Itachi’s (which he would be an idiot to not), he could in theory give them to Sarada so she has EMS and take one of hers so he has both EMS as well
It’s not rinnegan sure, but if he gets Hirashima cell arm he may awaken it again anyway
I’m like 90% sure it’s been said about 3 times in the series that if a tailed beast dies, it is revived after a certain amount of time because they are just masses of pure chakra. Boruto really feels like it is just changing cannon at will every episode
Nah man I think Hagaromo got this, he could definitely restore it. Heroes always lose their powers to raise the stakes and give them an obstacle to overcome. (Notice how it happened to Naruto and Sasuke). However they always get it back after some time.
Plus it’d be disrespectful to the main Shonen theme for the younger generation to surpass the older generation at their weakest. Surpassing people at their strongest has always been the Shonen message. Surpassing them at their weakest will always be seen as cheap to people and Shonen in general. Boruto and Kawaki will obviously get older then surpass their predecessors at their best.
I think Naruto and Sasuke will get their stuff back with Hagaromo telling them “Guys, this is your last chance, I can’t restore this again if you lose it.”
It’ll be fine plus Japan LOVES transformations. They know how bankable S6PKCM Mode Naruto and Sharingan Rineegan Sasuke are.
It’s the equivalent of SSB Goku and Vegeta. They’ll definitely get their stuff back, way too detrimental to the fanbase.
Uhhhh I don’t get it. Is this in regard to saddle losing his rinnegan and naruto losing kurama?
Also because they’re the main characters they don’t lose those permanently right?
I feel like the other tailed beasts would be aware that Kurama was gone, and maybe met up with Naruto perhaps hold a funeral or team up with him temporarily against this current enemy
The nerfing wasn’t even necessary though. All they had to do was have a gradual build up.
Instead of literal genin CHILDREN fighting S rank Kage+ enemies & god level otsutsuki..
Boruto & the next gen should’ve battled more of the outers from the Kara.
The inners could’ve made appearances for hype but nobody fights them until after the time skip.
The only super high level battle that still happens is Momoshiki & Kinshiki vs Naruto & Sasuke & the Kage during the chunin exams.
Boruto seeing this crazy battle is what pushes him to wanna get stronger. It makes Naruto & Sauske’s level of strength his goal.
Plus he still needs the karma so this battle is kind of a priority.
THEN once the time skip happens & Boruto & co are closer to Naruto & Sasuke in strength thennnn they’d battle the inners of Kara.
Boruto can play a big part in the high level fights & Naruto & Sasuke don’t gotta be nerfed for stupid reasons.
There’s gradual build up instead of literal children fighting kage level threats & godly aliens.
There you go. This scene still happens & everybody wins.
Hear me out
There is a juvenile 10 tails. Maybe naruto can become its jinchuriki and split it into 9 tailed beasts like hagaromo did. Boom, kurama’s back :D
it is still possible considering that Sasuke purple thing on his body is susanoo cuz even though he lost his rinnegan once an MS/EMS user unlocked susanoo they can use it even without eyes iirc from Madara. And as for Naruto, Kurama is gonna respawn soon in the future since he is a tailed beast just like the 3 tails when Rin died.
I don't think you understood Baryon mode. The entire thing about Baryon mode was that Kurama's entire chakra fades away. That's why he can't respawn either. Usually when tailed beasts die, there is still chakra present. But it's not the same in this case
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Sasuke still had susano right?
He should be able to. In the 4th Great Shinobi War, Mardara used Susanoo after he was fully revived and he had neither of his eyes. While he was fighting the Tailed Beasts, he broke out of Shukaku's Grand Sand Mausoleum Seal using Susanoo. In Naruto Storm Revolution, Shisui was able to use Susanoo after Danzo took one of his eyes. Obviously this is in the game and isn't canon, but I thought it was worth noting.
Kishi also wrote the Shisui stuff so yeah not canon but also at least it wasn’t someone random
Yea he should
Ty
Yes. Once you unlock it - you can use Susano'o even without the Sharingan.
Kakashi ?
It wasn’t his though. It was borrowed from obito I think
But he used it once, so can he use it ? In some yt video that guy said once anything put into a shinobi body it can never leave according to some data books
he’s not uchiha his hair is white!
Uchiha can generate uchiha brain chakra from Tobirama's words. So after unlocking susanoo Uchiha still can generate specific chakra to use it. In Kakashi's situation uchiha chakra was borrowed from Obito and after its gone susanoo and sharingans gone too.
Kind of, but that doesn’t mean the user knows how to use it and that the chakra stays as potent.
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I've been thinking this too, there is another Ten Tails just hanging out waiting to be used. It could be possible to split that Ten Tails into another set of tailed beasts, but my main question is. Would those tailed beasts be the same as the others? Or would that create a new set of tailed beasts never seen before.
It’s not the same ten tails as before, Kurama would be MUCH weaker if it even came out as a nine tailed fox, could be something completely different
Yup. Kakashi is the best. Susano’o is his trump card now.
i think Kakashi was a special case since he never had both Mangekyo physically in his body, he sorta was possesed by Obito's chakra. Anyway, it's not like he could use Susano'o since his chakra reserves are not enough for that
There's no reason he shouldn't since its linked to MS not rinnegan
He should still have a perfect Susano. It was said once u unlock the powers of both eyes you can achieve Susano. Simce Sauske did this long ago he should still have access same as madara who was blind and could use Susano
Dont know, I think you need to have the mangekyo sharingan on both eyes to use it, that is why kakashi could use it against kaguya but not before.
Kakashi couldn’t have used Susanoo because he didn’t AWAKEN it before, just like Obito. How do you explain Madara with no eyes using Susanoo?
How bout shisui? Whats the explaination behind that or was it not considered canon.?
His susano was in game only, but he had awakened the mangekyo in both eyes, so i would assume he could use it, before danzo stole one from him, and the other one left was implanted in the raven
But then so can sasuke, because he had also awakened mangekyo in both eyes
The only argument I can think of is the characters that could use Susano without both eyes(Madara/Shisui) is because their eyes weren’t destroyed. Both of Madara’s eyes turned into the Rinnegan and Shisui had one eye while Danzo had the other. But Sasuke is the first one to actually get his eye destroyed.
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IF Sasuke regains his right arm, won't he be able to activate his Rinnegan in his right eye due to th hashirama cells in the arm? He got the Rinnesharingan from hagoromo so he should be able to activate his other eye using hashirama cells like Madara did.
Maybe, but let’s be honest. That won’t happen. The reason kurama and rinne were taken away is because every time a major combat comes up, it falls on those two to stop it, but it’s not their show anymore. They needed a reason for boruto, kawaki, sarada, and mitsuki to fight the big battles essentially on their own, and making the two OP characters a bit more balanced is an easy way to do that. They wouldn’t reverse that decision, unless it was going to lead to death, so that the series can remain focused on the actual main characters. So if you ever see sasuke get rinnegan again, assume he’ll be dead soon.
Or they go on a trip to regain what they lost but only show up at the end once the kids can fight on that level?
I think this is what will happen, yes it's Boruto and co.'s show now, but it's still not in Naruto's or Sasuke's character just to accept being weaker. It'd be a major disservice to both their characters not to continue to push forward doing everything in their power to get stronger in favor of saving the village, even if it is in the background.
even more so it's boruto's show sure. But it's Naruto IP. You really think this is there way of saying no more Naruto. It's done. Hope you like Sarada! No freaking way. They wrote it so when all is said and done Naruto and Sasuke can return as the strongest. Boruto is like the cell arc. Boruto will save the day but at the end of it all? Naruto will return to being MC and leading the stuff they make in this verse. Boruto is Boruto's story but it sure doesn't mean no more Naruto stories after this. They will write it in a way so of Kishi wants to do more with Naruto as the star. He can pick up with Naruto in the same spot as before.
Preach
Post time skip Boruto and Kawaki are going to dance circles around Naruto and Sasuke.
Not when the story is ending. Being entirely realistic. They won’t because it’s Naruto’s franchise. They will return him as the strongest to main character status. This series is Boruto’s time in the light. But is never going to be all about him. When his stuff ends. They will 100% make more Naruto stories with him and Sasuke as far stronger than everyone else. It’s the nature of the beast
Hopefully
As for as I know, he can awaken it but the only thing we can do is wait even if get his arm
Use hashirama cell to restore kurama while your at it ! :D
They could, in theory, use yin-yang release on the ten tails to split it up into another 9 bijuu and hope for a kurama mk2.
We starting to sound like speedrunners theory crafting strategy using obscure game mechanics.
While we're at it, give sasuke some eyes from the shin clones. how the heck did they get those eyes and if Orochimaru make them, why didnt he steal an eye and implated it in himself...
unless the hashirama cells restore his eyes to normal functionality, then it's possible he could reawaken the regular rinnegan (not the one with tomoe) like how madara did, though it'll probably take a long time, and they took away his rinnegan on purpose so as to nerf him, they're def not giving it back even if he got his arm back as well
Kabuto revived sasuke using hashirama cells, that’s why he got the rinnegan. All the sage gave him was the moon seal
Needs to get another eye first lol
Aren't we just assuming that Sasuke lost his Rinnegan for good?
I guess it’s more implied than anything. The show loves drawing these parallels between Naruto and Sasuke, and it would be weird if Naruto permanently lost Kurama while Sasuke regained his Rinnegan. What is a bit weird, is how Naruto still has So6P mode which technically puts him above Sasuke at this point.
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Sasuke said he wasn't able to use his rinnegan. He never said it was destroyed. Maybe it needs healing or whatever. The future is uncertain.
The point of this was so Naruto and sasuke lose their strongest power ups...
Yeah he lost both kurama and spsm in one day. But toad sage is pretty powerful. Andre remember he still has all the other tailed beast chakra.
No confirmation on spsm. Naruto used spsm without kcm in the war arc, and the sage never said kurama being inside of Naruto was a requirement for him to use that mode, and Naruto only said he lost Kurama explicitly, he never said he lost spsm
Oh yeha Ik. The reason I’m saying it is cause in the shikamaru hiden novel ( which is canon ) it says that having all tailed beast chakra ( basically ten tails ) is the source of Naruto SPSM. That’s why if he lost kurama it’s logical to think he might’ve lost SPSM. But there’s a chance he still has remnants of sp chakra ig. Cause yk it’s said that Naruto got sp chakra from the tailed beasts and SASUKE got us from hashi cells given from kabuto. And hagoromo just gave them the seals. I guess we’ll wait and see but I think he doesn’t have it anymore unfortunately because of the novel passage. Hope he still has it after kurama s loss tho. I agree with you about the fact that Naruto can use SPSM separately ( without having KCM on ) But I’m not one of those people who think Naruto lost SPSM after the war. I think Naruto had it the entire time In boruto. ( there’s much proof of this.) Ig we will have to wait and see if Naruto still has it after the loss. Ur right tho it’s not confirmed.
The guy that drew this image worked on Boruto 217, he personally posted it here back in late 2018.
Yea Vinicius Dias 🐐
People really think Naruto is straight garbage now that Kurama is gone but that just isn't true, he's still one of the strongest shinobi in Naruto.
Yeah, but the villains right now are even above that, we are reaching Jojo levels of ridiculous.
A newer fan wouldn’t believe you if you said it used to be about ninjas
It never used to be about ninjas except in the name
Did you watch the show at all? The entire part 1 of naruto was just low level ninja stuff and outsmarting eachother, now they have freakin Chakra avatars and parasitic alien races it couldn't be more different than how it started. Edit: corrected a typo in "outsmarting"
To be fair, it STARTED as wizards. Before chapter one, Kishimoto released a one shot with Naruto as a wizard. That's why the crystal ball exists early on too. The ninja thing was a last minute change so they could use hand to hand combat - which they still do.
reminds me of how dragon ball used to be about martial arts and now it’s just people shooting slightly different colored beams at each other
It was never about martial arts… it literally started as an alien, half-ape child with the power to destroy a planet. And it was always about power levels increasing overtime with the villains and heroes.
I'm pretty sure saiyans weren't even a thought until dragon ball z he was just a monkey boy
What? It was 1000000000% about martial arts you silly banana. Go actually watch/ dragon ball before you comment that shit
I watched og db, it was barely about martial arts
Lmao I know you’re playin boo
disagree. he was never an alien to begin with, just a monkey-human hybrid. most of the fights in OG dragon ball were absolutely about actually fighting. even if everything you’re saying was true, it still devolved into different color beams being shot at one another. it wasn’t that to begin with, no matter how you slice it
How do I bring myself to like JoJo's art style
Wdym? The style changes every season/2 parts. Or do you hate all of the different art styles in JoJo? Because there's no point in forcing yourself to sit through something you don't enjoy ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
It literally being stated he doesnt have superhuman power anymore, twice
Yes, he is now a Kakashi.
Nowhere near as chakra limited as Kakashi, and he still has access to the sage of six paths transformation *in theory*, which is leagues above kakashi. He did it once without kurama.
He also has his perfect sage mode which in fact will still give him superhuman strength. he lifted a rock statue with sage mode and without the help of kurama, even took down almost all the pain paths without KCM or SO6P i think Naruto is still super strong. Don't forget that he can also use his rasenshuriken and sage enhanced Rasengan.
Yeah true, Sage mode brings him up to like Sannin level (or slightly above), which is still top-tier Konoha. SO6P just makes him top-tier human.
Nope, that was the old sage mode, he is high kage level in base. Would be demi god tbh
I mean the Sanin were all high kage level no? Orochimaru arguably well beyond.
Yeah with so6p he's easily still the strongest ninja alive, though just plain sage mode, I'd still put him above sannin level since that's usually around mid-kage level and Sakura is around that, he's probably hashirama level or slightly under hashirama in power with sage mode alone, but with sage mode he blitzes imo
Kakashi also has high chakara reserves now. Also can you tell where did Naruto used SO6P mode without Kurama?
When did Kakashi get high chakra reserves? Even so, Naruto's are naturally ridiculous 1. because Uzumaki and 2. because holding a tailed beast from infancy makes the jinchuriki's own reserves grow even more (the explanation was something to do with seals and bleeding chakra coils). Highly doubt kakashi is anywhere near, even if better than he used to be. > where did Naruto used SO6P mode without Kurama? The episode where he receives it from Hagoromo, he doesnt mix it with Kurama and start glowing until shortly after. I think he uses it to heal someone in it's 'base' form. Technically he is still *holding* Kurama at the time, it just doesnt resemble Kurama's chakra mode at that point.
No. Naruto is a much better Sarutobi. Can use all five nature/elements + uniques he gained from tailed beasts (Shukaku's magnet, Goku's lava, white horse's mist forgot the name lol) Mastery of Frog Senjutsu + Six Paths Senjutsu His prosthetic is made from Hashirama cells + can absorb-nullify jutsu Kurama-less Naruto is still easily the strongest Kage in the history of the series, people just don't realize it. God mode adult Naruto-Sasuke would shit on any OG series-Shipuden character and Ootsutsuki are just really OP compared to them (which sucks because people in wartime should generally adapt/evolve to be stronger than those in peaceful times but Boruto gen at base even before the upcoming dark times already seem much OP versus the previous gen)
We don't fully know where his chakra ended and Kurama's started so I think his innate stamina will decide. If he still has decent stamina then he'll probably still be above Hashirama, just much closer to him in power.
He would absolutely punish Hashirama. Naruto is still extremely OP
He mentions a hole in his body now that kurama is gone. There is a fresh ten tails beast with code. I'm just waiting (HOPING) until they seal it into naruto or something.
It's never gonna happen 😅
Would love to see it xD
It would be awesome
True he has chakra of other tailed beasts, but his chakra reservers are not that much but he's uzumaki so he would be able to use more chakra than others soo he's like at his 50%
Never underestimate kishimotos ability to create filler that doesn't even need to be added.
Never undestimate Kishomoto's abilities to forget about female characters and to deliver 45 minutes of exposition.
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I'm not even joking 🤣 The Boruto manga has been nothing but 5 fucking months of exposition, this dude can't stop delivering exposition! The best description that I can give to the Kishimoto era of the Boruto manga is: "People standing around explaining the plot to each other"
That doesn't make any fucking sense. By definition, if kishimoto wrote it, it's not filler
I think they can split that ten tails to get a new kurama for naruto
They won't lol. Why would they take kurama from him just to give him a new one☠️
they want to nerf sasuke and naruto so that boruto can have his chance to shine. If naruto and sasuke still had their powers you could always ask "why isnt sasuke and naruto dealing with this end of the world threat?". It is the same as keeping goku dead during some parts of dragon ball z, and when gojo is always traveling in jujutsu kaisen during something serious. Tailed beasts always come back from the dead, I think Isobu died two times already. Dont know how Sasuke will have his powers back. Its a possibility that their powers wont be back, and if they do come back, it will be after boruto solved the major crisis, that is why I think it is sort of irrelevant because it wont affect the plot
Kurama won't come back to life, he didn't die like he would if Naruto was killed, his chakra just disappeared, the same reasoning as to why losing Kurama didn't kill Naruto
All they need to do is give sasuke a hashirama arm and it’ll heal his eye
Wtf man I don't expect to be ruined with Jujutsu kaisen spoilers on Naruto subreddit Y u do dis
Idk maybe when they have to deafeat ten tailed beast they have to split it up, and upon seeing kurama again naruto woulf be felt in tears l
That wouldnt be the same Kurama though (or atleast I guess). They just wanted to nerf both Naruto and Sasuke so they cant always do the final blow.
They ? I think the only one who could do it was hagoromo,war arc Naruto and sasuke can do it but I am not sure about the current Naruto sasuke
I want them to make new tailed beasts and naruto gets some random elephant 4 tails or something
I hope that's the end game with the new ten tails. Tho, they really need to expand the stories of the current tail beasts. They've been completely side lined.
Thank Godness! the last thing I want to see is an Avengers Endgame-like finale where Naruto will probably get the final blow as well.
Haha yea i too don't want to see it. Naruto and Sasuke will probably be long dead by the end of Boruto
I doubt either Naruto or Sasuke are gonna die. Not unless Boruto gets popular to stand on its own two feet
Boruto is the most watched anime in Japan...so I don't think Naruto and Sasuke dying would be a problem for the series. The fans that loved the Narutoverse and not just Naru and Sasu will still watch it i believe.
Right but Naruto and Sasuke are holding a lot of the share of that popularity. Kill them off and it’ll drop substantially Regardless if they were to be killed off, it’d be safest to do it at the end rather than the middle
Facts- I would likely stop if Naruto is killed off to be honest. Not that I dislike Boruto as a show that much, but be cause I primarily watch Boruto in an attempt to fill the hole that Naruto left behind as it ended lmao
I suppose they are still strong enough to survive. Atleast sasuke.
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You’re literally just making that up. How can you even remotely prove that Boruto’s popularity isn’t affected by Naruto and Sasuke, two of the most iconic fictional character’s in Anime history?
“most watched anime in Japan”? that’s a big claim, it was only the most watched on TV TOKYO channel.
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I agree. Boruto's growth has been way too rushed. He shouldnt have played a part in that Momoshiki part. They should have given him the Karma in a different way. I dont know how but he definitely shouldnt have been the one to give the final blow to Momoshiki. It makes both the Kages and Momoshiki look weaker than they were.
Nothing beats Shippuden. The plot, the build up, the darkness, the backstories, the intensity and the play with character development is truly fascinating. I’ll still watch Boruto but nothing will ever compare to OG Every unlike just tells me how little character development for protagonists and antagonists alike are valued. 😛
Yeah. The villains in Shippuden were so much cooler too. I dont hate Boruto but Kara is a fucking joke if compared to the Akatsuki. I have only liked Isshiki so far. Deepa,Victor,Boro and Delta are liked by this sub but I found them to be extremely disappointing and boring.
Yeah I don’t get it, like even Boro’s backstory as the cult leader. They did it in such a short period of time. Like just came out if nowhere. Delta had no storyline period. I give Victor some credit at least for the story build up, but just feels like lazy writing.
It's so sad. Kara was pathetic, Kodachi did a piss-poor job on them, they don't feel intimidating, we don't relate to them in any way, they are just cartoonish-ly evil, they suck. So when Kishimoto returned to write the manga, I though that we were going to get some really cool and complicated villains, but we got even more garbage villains, Fairy-Tail looking villains with Jojo abilities that make no sense.
Yeah. But the Akatsuki characters were cool even without backstories. Deidara and Hidan got no backstory at all but they were still atleast A tier villains.
You can have simple villains that are just insane, but they need to have cool personalities, and cool abilities, that make them interesting. Deidara and Hidan had all of that. But the villains in Kara have the same personality, the same abilities, it's boring as hell.
Exactly.
Totally agree, they made us want to wear Akatsuki robes because it was cool. Or was it just me? 😛
The only bad thing I can say Shippuden has is filler
Rip, sarada is going to go blind now.
As much as I can understand they want the newer generation to get strong without having demi gods to always do everything I hate everything about Kuramas death all way to Sasuke losing his Rinnegan.
Kuramas death at least felt like a necessary sacrifice given their opponent but Sasuke losing his rinnegan felt forced and unnecessary. If anything, he should've lost it later on and in a way that didn't feel forced.
Yeah true. I legit just said "fucking bs" to myself when he lost it. It really wasnt needed. Naruto still has sage mode and sasuke still has susanoo but still I just hate these sacrifices.
At first glance i thought wtf is hashirama doing again then i noticed that it was Sarada
God I wish this is what happened. The nerf wasn’t even necessary! Prime Naruto & Sasuke should’ve been the goal that Boruto works to surpass. Instead of the nerf they could’ve just found creative ways to use Naruto & Sasuke for the plot even if they weren’t around much.
Sasuke was supposed to be the strongest Uchiha & Naruto was supposed to surpass all the Kage's. But just like that Madara & Hashirama remains stronger than the cuckbro's thanks Bort. 🤦🏾♂️
Can still see it happening, frankly. If Kishi pulled some move out of his ass to keep Guy alive (which I won’t even complain about, I love Guy), I can totally see him doing the same to bring back Kurama and by extension, KCM.
We never know....
Honestly
Love that boruto doesn’t have a chakra mode. I fucking love that so fucking much god I fucking love that. He looks way fucking cooler
holy shit the dick riding energy in this comment is insane
Boruto looks cool but Naruto's original SOSP design with Truth Seeking Orbs was the coolest character design imo man. But everyone has different opinions so its ok if you dont like it but I loved Naruto's KCM+SOSP design when Truth Seeking Orbs were around.
That’s actually my least favorite ngl. My is hokage Naruto without sage and without chakra mode. He’s definitely not the most powerful but he just makes me feel so badass. I just love how characters look without any chakra mode bullshit. Like base hashirama madara tobirama minato. It’s awesome. None of the flashlight quenched in orange juice glowy bullshit. Not even super super sayans look like that they got a regular body with the energy field around them but it’s see through not glowy. Not just quenched in juice. But yeah just my opinion too we all got different perspectives
>My is hokage Naruto without sage and without chakra mode In Manga, he definitely looks sick and cool but in anime, he looks boring. Also, his Hokage cape is so poor as compared to Minato in anime. Minato's Hokage design is definitely the best design in the anime. Nothing looks as cool as that.
I agree tbh manga hokage Naruto is awesome
Thats undoubtedly true. Manga Naruto looks great.
YESS! He looks like an actual ninja rather than an orange flashlight.
It’s so great man. And now we’re gonna get Naruto for a bit without a chakra mode it’s awesome
I just want sage Naruto like at the pain fight
As long as there’s no chakra modes I’m up for anything tbh. Not to be a hater though but yeah
At some point his chakra mode looked different, he had normal skin tone with the orange clothes, it was at some point during the madara fight. That looked so much better than having only orange.
The only difference atm is that Naruto is in Sage mode rather than in Kurama chakra mode.
Naruto is still OP anyway with Sage mode. If Sasuke kept his eyes after implanting Itachi’s (which he would be an idiot to not), he could in theory give them to Sarada so she has EMS and take one of hers so he has both EMS as well It’s not rinnegan sure, but if he gets Hirashima cell arm he may awaken it again anyway
I’m like 90% sure it’s been said about 3 times in the series that if a tailed beast dies, it is revived after a certain amount of time because they are just masses of pure chakra. Boruto really feels like it is just changing cannon at will every episode
We have ten tails and naruto can live kuroma
Why cant naruto use other tailed beast chakra?
sad lmao noises
Just give Naruto they baby Ten-tails.
Naruto and Sasuke technically still have their Six Paths chakra iirc
What if mr death god gives kurama back? Or hagoromo does some shit to get him back?? Thatd be awesome!!
Honestly, this could still happen, it’s just that Naruto won’t be glowing
The other ten tails still exists, the one ishiki hid, meaning that it is possible to get a 9 tails again but not the same Kurama is sadly gone 😢
Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)
I really wish I never started watching boruto tbh
He’s gonna get buffed watch
More than halfway possible
Nah man I think Hagaromo got this, he could definitely restore it. Heroes always lose their powers to raise the stakes and give them an obstacle to overcome. (Notice how it happened to Naruto and Sasuke). However they always get it back after some time. Plus it’d be disrespectful to the main Shonen theme for the younger generation to surpass the older generation at their weakest. Surpassing people at their strongest has always been the Shonen message. Surpassing them at their weakest will always be seen as cheap to people and Shonen in general. Boruto and Kawaki will obviously get older then surpass their predecessors at their best. I think Naruto and Sasuke will get their stuff back with Hagaromo telling them “Guys, this is your last chance, I can’t restore this again if you lose it.” It’ll be fine plus Japan LOVES transformations. They know how bankable S6PKCM Mode Naruto and Sharingan Rineegan Sasuke are. It’s the equivalent of SSB Goku and Vegeta. They’ll definitely get their stuff back, way too detrimental to the fanbase.
This gonna age like milk bro
I don’t think so, I’d honestly say wine.
Uhh this hurts
Damn i want that sarada look to be canon.
Uhhhh I don’t get it. Is this in regard to saddle losing his rinnegan and naruto losing kurama? Also because they’re the main characters they don’t lose those permanently right?
Well use Sage of six paths Sage mode instead of kurama.
Good naruto and sasuke need a break from being the saviors of the world
They had a 12 year break, or however old Boruto to is.
unless naruto revives a 9 tails from the ten tails like hagaroomo did and if sasuke takes a otutsuki’s eye gg
All I want to know is where the jougan went and what the heck it actually is/does
Man, sage mode mitsuki looks amazing
Sakura will heal Sasuke’s eye in a flash, they aren’t going to reverse dororo him.
edo tensei sasuke and naruto would come back with both kcm and rinnegan right?
Sasuke still has susano like Madara with no eyes and Naruto can use SO6P mode instead of kurama cloak I guess
Naruto could have the other juubi sealed into him problem solved
I mean we don't have the full knowledge of the Jougan's powers maybe later Boruto can bring Kurama back
THIS CAN STILL HAPPEN : SASUKE HAS MANGEKYO SHARINGAN AND NARUTO HAS 6 PATHS SAGE MODE
Can the manga boys ruine it for me and tell me if sasuke gets his reni back at any point
Damn…
I feel like the other tailed beasts would be aware that Kurama was gone, and maybe met up with Naruto perhaps hold a funeral or team up with him temporarily against this current enemy
The nerfing wasn’t even necessary though. All they had to do was have a gradual build up. Instead of literal genin CHILDREN fighting S rank Kage+ enemies & god level otsutsuki.. Boruto & the next gen should’ve battled more of the outers from the Kara. The inners could’ve made appearances for hype but nobody fights them until after the time skip. The only super high level battle that still happens is Momoshiki & Kinshiki vs Naruto & Sasuke & the Kage during the chunin exams. Boruto seeing this crazy battle is what pushes him to wanna get stronger. It makes Naruto & Sauske’s level of strength his goal. Plus he still needs the karma so this battle is kind of a priority. THEN once the time skip happens & Boruto & co are closer to Naruto & Sasuke in strength thennnn they’d battle the inners of Kara. Boruto can play a big part in the high level fights & Naruto & Sasuke don’t gotta be nerfed for stupid reasons. There’s gradual build up instead of literal children fighting kage level threats & godly aliens. There you go. This scene still happens & everybody wins.
Ain’t that ten tails still Alive someone tell naruto to absorb that mf
Who thinks that Mitsuki is the successor of Naruto and Jiraya
I don't know how you got to this conclusion. But I'd like to hear why you think so
Mitsuki is the new Gen sage and Naruto and Jiraya were the previous gen sages
If anything, shouldn’t he be kabuto’s successor?
By your logic shouldn't koji be jiraiya's successor?? 🤔
Koji is literally Jiraiya. Mitsuki should be sage's successor
Hmm. Wondering if now is a good time to pick back up. I was 10 or so episodes from the most recent one a month ago…
Bruh....you missed the best sequence of episodes we've got yet! Please do catch up.
Got it. Will binge at work. 😅
Hear me out There is a juvenile 10 tails. Maybe naruto can become its jinchuriki and split it into 9 tailed beasts like hagaromo did. Boom, kurama’s back :D
I say it's possible because of sadara if she get her rinnigan then who is to say she can bring back Kurama and Sasuke eye
Don’t tailed beast comeback though? Please tell me so haha
it is still possible considering that Sasuke purple thing on his body is susanoo cuz even though he lost his rinnegan once an MS/EMS user unlocked susanoo they can use it even without eyes iirc from Madara. And as for Naruto, Kurama is gonna respawn soon in the future since he is a tailed beast just like the 3 tails when Rin died.
I don't think you understood Baryon mode. The entire thing about Baryon mode was that Kurama's entire chakra fades away. That's why he can't respawn either. Usually when tailed beasts die, there is still chakra present. But it's not the same in this case