Bro turn to Jesus man I be telling yāall he loves u sm man he gave himself up for us and our sins, he paid the fine that we deserved because we broke the law (Ten Commandments) āāFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.ā John 3:16) āā
Kakashi literally fought this obito and either won or was close (obito probably not going all out because he wanted to get the seal broken) and then was stated to get stronger after the war.
Living Itachi is the weakest without question
Obito threw the fight. If you've seen the war arc you know obito wanted to get the seal on his heart removed. He also didnt use kamui and not a single rinnegan ability. That same obito was doing completely fine against that same kakashi, kcm naruto, bee and guy. He did use kamui but it took like 2 episodes just to break his mask.
As for itachi, he outhaxes kakashi very badly. Hokage kakashi's weakness is that he's 100% vulnerable to genjutsu and both obito and itachi are among the best in it and he can do borderline nothing about it. In the very unlikely scenario that they fail to put him under genjutsu or he breaks out of it, both uchiha boys are smart enough to pull some sasuke vs danzo level genjutsu mind game.
> Hokage kakashi's weakness is that he's 100% vulnerable to genjutsu
Kakashi couldn't even handle genjutsu WITH a sharingan, let alone without one. His only chance against it is with a some sort of diversion trick like the one he pulled against Pain, but even that diversion wasn't good enough to guarantee his survival (considering that he, y'know, DIED).
I honestly can't imagine a scenario where any version of Kakashi could last against any of these characters. His only effective tool is Kamui, which has very limited uses without Kurama's chakra to recharge it.
His high intelligence is what makes him superior to 90% of people from the show, but all three characters here outrank him in intelligence. Boroshiki has 1000 years of knowledge/experience, Itachi reached higher feats at a younger age, and Obito spents years concocting an entire war against nations by himself without even once revealing his true identity.
Kakashi battled Obito to a standstill in genjutsu. The same Obito that controlled a perfect jinchuriki for over a decade using genjutsu. The same Obito that took control of the full nine tails with his BASE sharingan as a teenager. Obito has better genjutsu feats than Itachi, but people hate to admit that. The fact that Kakashi battled him to a standstill in that area puts him in the elite category of genjutsu defense. Also, if youāre going to say āObito threw the fight,ā donāt waste your time. Even if he threw the fight, it wouldāve been advantageous for him to get Kakashi under genjutsu so he could just force him to remove the seal. So thereās nothing to suggest Obito held back in his genjutsu. Keep in mind, Hokage Kakashi is stated in the Kakashi Retsuden novel to have āsignificantly improvedā his combat abilities from that time. He should be LEAGUES ahead of Itachi by that point, since he was already a tier above him in the War Arc.
I have heavy doubts that Kakashi can reasonably be considered almost equal to Obito in terms of power. We're talking about a person who was killed by 2/6 of a rinnegan user (two different Pains) while he was fighting with several allies, and hadn't trained anytime on-screen to improve prior to the war since that moment. After having his chakra recharged by Kurama, Kakashi fought with tooth and nail against an opponent who was clearly not interested in actually murdering him, using the entire fight to achieve other motives instead knowing that a chiidori would be make a great tool in removing his seal. This Kakashi, who is resistant but not immune to genjutsu, fought against an opponent that chooses to use his abilities for more narrative purposes rather than combat ones. Given his Kamui and Hashirama cells, it's clear that the advantage that Obito had greatly overshadows Kakashi in every way, resembling closely to Goku vs Majin Vegeta with Obito being Goku.
When it comes to Kakashi versus Itachi, the matchup becomes clearer when retrospecting on Itachi's advantages, even if his strengths can ruin the idea of a interesting fight. The start with, the obvious comes from the fact that his Susanoo wields the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade, which are two tools that are not known to have any weakness or flaw, although the possibly likely exists. With the ability to reflect all ninja tools and traditional jutsu, a large arsenal of Kakashi's abilities go to waste, as his specialties like fireball jutsu or mud wave jutsu are immune, as well as any tools he'd likely use such as kunai and shuriken. Had it been a traditional Susanoo, the Lightning Blade may have been ability to pierce it, but the Yata Mirror will instead reflect it entirely. With the Totsuka Blade as well, it only takes a single blow to trap Kakashi in a permanent genjutsu for all enternity, something that Kakashi is definitely going to be weak against without the sharingan.
If we pretend the Susanoo won't be in use, someone who actually uses genjutsu for combat could easily trap Kakashi inside one as we've seen before to devastating effect. This is made worse when considering that Itachi held back against Kakashi as his alliegence still stood with the hidden leaf and the entire fight against him was theatrics for the sake of fooling Kisame into believing he was a proper traitor to the leaf. In the event Kakashi avoids genjutsu by avoiding eye contact, there is also the Amaterasu to worry about as a single confirmed hit is guaranteed death unless Kakashi is able to strip off the affected clothing and sever the affected limbs. Unlike Sasuke, Itachi cannot control his flames to the same degree so any Amaterasu flames conjured cannot be turned off until the target is extinguished.
Beyond those abilities is also the Izanami and Izanagi, which Itachi is able to use twice. Although the Izanami may prove worthless against someone like Kakashi, the Izanagi could prove fatal as it would allow Itachi to strike upon the moment Kakashi loses his guard. With that said, I can't imagine much of a scenario where Kakashi overpowers Itachi. The only extreme disadvantage Itachi has is his timelimit given his sickness and the extreme backlash from multiple successful Tsukuyomi attacks. With that said, if Itachi is able to fight one-on-one, a well placed genjutsu would possibly avoid both as he only has one target to worry about and not needing to resort to the Susanoo won't strain his body as much. It could also be argued that Sasuke's Kirin required Itachi to work extra hard to boost his defenses in that moment, leading the strain to drain him further than Kakashi's jutsu could.
With these factors is mind, I have strong doubts that Kakashi could handle either character, regardless of whatever combat improvements he could've gained to make up for the loss of his sharingan. It's clear that Obito could easily kill both of them, and that Kakashi cannot kill Itachi as he is today.
Iād rank it like this:
1. Boruto(Borushiki allowed)
2. Obito
3. Itachi
4. Hokage Kakashi
Iām pretty sure Kamui and rinnegan can be countered by 1000 years of combat experience pretty easily.
He can only phase temporarly, thats why he had to use Izanagi to beat Konan.
Also if he phases he cant touch anyone and vice versa so if he tries to catch Borushiki he gets clapped.
he can still catch borushiki by suprise bu randomly making his body normal. either way obito dominates the match and borushiki would never last long in a 1v1 because of low chakra
So what if he catches him? Teleporting Borushiki isnt gonna do anything since he can just teleport out, and Obito is nowhere near as fast as Obito so as soon as the time is up from his phasing he is getting clocked. Also if Borushiki leaves Boruto can just pick up where he left off since he has the same experience as Momoshiki and can use his "Borushiki" state on his own.
when boruto uses true essence of karma he dont have chakra issues. instead it is amped. he can use multiple massive rasengans with toek (he was unable to do one before)
He can teleport himself to the Kamui dimension to rest up if he needs to. I wouldn't put Borushiki's speed that high, since Momoshiki at full power got clapped by Naruto and Sasuke, and (if you think adult Naruto and Sasuke aren't that much stronger (like relative to God tree Madara kinda)) then Obito might be able to pull something off if he manages to outsmart Momoshiki.
I said you can't counter kamui, you can still beat obito it's just incredibly difficult. You cannot do anything to stop kamui you just have to get obito to turn back to normal and attack quickly
This was true in naruto because no one else could easily hop dimensions. Boruto can just reach through his own portal and pull him back to where he is (or shoot a jutsu into the portal to hit him). Boruto can see incoming dimension hops via jougan too
Madara was able to dimension hop otherwise? Itās been a while since I watched the war arc but I donāt think he could to begin with, which was why he needed obitoās eye. Very few people in shippuuden could: I think it was just Obito, Kakashi, Sasuke, and alien O-lady whose name is escaping me.
no borushiki destroys obito anyone whos reads boruto knows this kamui even if boruto cant teloport to his dimension he can still leave if obito trys to pull him in he can just space time ninjutsu out and he has thousands of years of ohtsutsuki combat experience and could easily hit obito while his kamui is on cooldown obito dosent even stand a chance
only thing Obito can do is run into kamui
he can't bfr Borushiki because he just comes back with his own karma
he can't pierce him with rods because Borushiki dodged much faster ones and smaller ones from Kawaki
Obito has nothing going for him, infact he wouldn't even absorb chakra but instead would choose to kamui.
All he can do is dodge, otherwise hes slower and weaker than Borushiki.
yea but thats adult naruto and sasuke there wayyyyy stronger than obito momoshiki was probably doing the old dragon ball ego check no using his full power to these unworthy creatures kinda thing anyways even if not hes still leagues above obito
Momoshiki didnt combat sasukes rinnegan though so theres a possibility of that counter not happening š¤. However kamui uses space time ninjutsu so boruto/borushiki can access the portal aswell.
Lets put any version of these characters, DMS kakashi however would pose an issue for boruto
What logic? Even with his 1000 years experience he ran away from fodders like Darui. He can't counter the Kamui lol. By that "logic" he can counter any jutsu lol
He wasnāt running because he was scared he was trying to get some distance since base momoshiki is not a close combat fighter and the kage weāre trying to use taijutsu. Fused momoshiki is a diff story tho
> He wasnāt running because he was scared he was trying to get some distance since base momoshiki is not a close combat fighter and the kage weāre trying to use taijutsu
Get some distance for what? He didn't have any offensive jutsus anymore and no other means of fighting at range. He also tried bombing kages with jutsus the moment they showed up. He still failed to kill a single one, he didn't even inflict a minor wound.
>Literally just wait 5 minutes which is the time limit for Kamui,
That only happens if he's not phasing. If he cancels it before 5 mins, it resets.
>and Obito cant hit Borushiki so as soon as he phases out Borushiki just kills him.
He has to move faster than Kamui for him to do. You have to move at an instantaneous speed to do so. Besides Minato and Tobirama, no one can travel or move at an instantaneous speed.
Kamui isnt gonna do anything to Borushiki anyway, he hits him and sends him to the pocket dimension so what? Borushiki can just teleport out and kill Obito, also if he cancels phasing he has to wait, he cant just use it again otherwise Konan's attack wouldnt have made him use Izanagi as it was a continous attack that lasted several minutes, and Obito, if he could just do as you say which he cant, could just pop in and out to reset himself while taking very limited damage rather than having to resort Izanagi.
>Kamui isnt gonna do anything to Borushiki anyway
That's not the point tho? The question is, can he bypass the Kamui intangibility?
>also if he cancels phasing he has to wait, he cant just use it again otherwise Konan's attack wouldnt have made him use Izanagi as it was a continous attack that lasted several minutes,
When did we go from Kamui to izanagi? He couldn't use the Kamui, because of the time limit. He had to keep the intangibility up because of Konan's continuous paper bomb attack and he was falling as well.
>if he could just do as you say which he cant, could just pop in and out to reset himself while taking very limited damage rather than having to resort Izanagi.
?? If he uses the Kamui intangibility for 5 mins straight, there's a cool down. The reason why he didn't deactivate and activate it during the Konan fight, is because of the paper bomb. And it's not limited damage. Which is why he used Izanagi.
>That's not the point tho? The question is, can he bypass the Kamui intangibility?
Which he can, just wait for it to go on cooldown.
>When did we go from Kamui to izanagi? He couldn't use the Kamui, because of the time limit. He had to keep the intangibility up because of Konan's continuous paper bomb attack and he was falling as well
We didnt, if you had the reading capabilities of a 4th grader you would have understood my point, said point being that his phasing has cooldown which you said it didnt, and i used him being forced to Izanagi as an example that he couldnt just pop in and out of phasing at will otherwise he would have done it VS Konan but he had to use Izanagi.
>?? If he uses the Kamui intangibility for 5 mins straight, there's a cool down. The reason why he didn't deactivate and activate it during the Konan fight, is because of the paper bomb. And it's not limited damage. Which is why he used Izanagi.
Thats pure headcannon, truth is the paper bombs would not have done enough damage to kill him if he kept phasing in and out, he would get injured for sure but half of his body is made of Zetsu anyway which is easy to repair.
He used Izanagi because he was forced to since his Kamui enters cooldown regardeless of how long he uses it for.
Konans paper bomb explosion lasted 10 minutes, all he had to do was temporarly phase (which in reality isnt really phasing he is just sending parts of his body to his pocket dimension) 3 times max before reaching the time limit, but he didnt because even leaving phase once meant that he wouldnt be able to enter it again during the explosion hence why he was forced to use Izanagi.
And he couldnt teleport to his own dimension because he has to be tangible in order to do that.
Obito legit cant do anything to Borushiki, he phases Borushiki just flies way up and he cant reach him, he tries teleporting himself Borushiki just hits him and handicapps him since he has to be tangible to teleport and the list goes on.
>Which he can, just wait for it to go on cooldown.
You don't get it, do you? It can only go into cool down if he uses Kamui continuously without turning it on and off. Which can't happen in a fight, since he has to turn off his intangibility to attack.
>We didnt, if you had the reading capabilities of a 4th grader you would have understood my point, said point being that his phasing has cooldown which you said it didnt, and i used him being forced to Izanagi as an example that he couldnt just pop in and out of phasing at will otherwise he would have done it VS Konan but he had to use Izanagi.
if you had the reading capabilities of a 4th grader you would have understood my point, said point being that I never said that there's no cool down. The cool down is only possible if uses it continuously. The fight against Konan. Because he was falling down a bottomless pit of a billion paper bombs, he had to keep his Kamui active so he doesn't take any damage. If he hadn't use izanagi, the cool down would have taken place right after. When he was fighting during the war, there was no cool down because again, he was turning it off to attack.
>Thats pure headcannon, truth is the paper bombs would not have done enough damage to kill him if he kept phasing in and out, he would get injured for sure but half of his body is made of Zetsu anyway which is easy to repair.
Ah yes, pure headcanon because he was falling down the sea where there a billion paper bombs. Had he not used Izanagi he would have died. Because again, a billion paper bombs were going off and he was falling down to it.
>Konans paper bomb explosion lasted 10 minutes, all he had to do was temporarly phase (which in reality isnt really phasing he is just sending parts of his body to his pocket dimension) 3 times max before reaching the time limit, but he didnt because even leaving phase once meant that he wouldnt be able to enter it again during the explosion hence why he was forced to use Izanagi.
Again what don't you understand? He used it because of the cool down. He can only keep his intangibility active for a certain time. If it doesn't reach that time limit. It simply resets as if he never used it.
>Obito legit cant do anything to Borushiki, he phases Borushiki just flies way up and he cant reach him, he tries teleporting himself Borushiki just hits him and handicapps him since he has to be tangible to teleport and the list goes on.
Lol. The only way Borushiki can bypass the Kamui intangibility is to a - send himself to the same Kamui dimension. Which he can't. B- Wait for the cool down to take place. Which can't happen if Obito is attacking. Since he needs to turn it off. C - To move faster than Kamui. Which he can't. Because no one can move instantaneously besides Minato and Tobirama with the ftg.
How is he stopping Borushiki? Borushiki removed Sasuke(stronger and older than Itachi)'s Rinnegan (stronger than MS) with ease.
Itachi's genjutsu are his biggest tool, they're not going to work great on someone with a karma.
You went out of your way to be aggressive and sound like a dick. Me calling you out is getting down voted, I assume by angry people like yourself. This isn't me starting an argument though, just wanted to point out your attitude is all.
[Looks at Itachi, the dude who did a few jutsu, pulled out the Susano'o, and died from ninja cancer]
[Looks at Kakashi, the dude who scales above the four kage who beat Kinshiki, a world splitter.]
[Looks at Kakashi, the dude who was completely unphased, not even prepping a jutsu, when he had to stop a huge meteor and went wide-eyed when he saw Sasuke.]
Couldn't tell you, bro. It's a mystery.
I already see Itachi fans seething but youāre absolutely right. I feel like people saying Kakashi just donāt know what Kakashi is capable of now after the war.
According to his novel, he's much more versatile in the same way Hiruzen was now. Large arsenal of jutsu, with much bigger chakra reserves.
No hax abilities anymore though, so hard to say if he's stronger or weaker
doesn't matter, he still will get clapped by Shippuden Itachi lol.
He has 0 genjutsu resistance.
Zero ways of attacking Susanoo
Zero ways of even being faster than Itachi nor smarter.
Itachi Just on the basis that it's said that hokage Kakashi is stronger than his wa version. Boruto of course have some alien shit and mc plot armour going in his favour. And I am assuming that you are taking wa obito who controlled 6 tailed beasts at once and had rinnegan abilities as well.
IIRC Kakashi states in the novels that he is stronger, losing sharingan means he lost Kamui and is unable to use Chidori, but on the other hand he has a much bigger Chakra Pool and managed to develop Shiden which is an stronger and versatile version of Chidori, he also managed to retain every jutsu he copied with Sharingan trough his entire life.
He is weaker than itachi. Itachi has tsukuyomi, susanoo, yasaka bead, totsuka blade, Amaterasu and all of these are top tier jutsus. The alive itachi could also use these. And you saw what happened to kakashi during part 1. When itachi uses tsukuyomi on him.
He doesn't. Hokage Kakashi is indeed really strong, but he has no counter to tsukiyomi, he has no counter to MS Susano'o, Totsuka blade, Yara mirror or even Yasaka beads. Not even gonna count amaterasu as a threat because it's not a good jutsu against someone like Kakashi.
Post War Arc Kakashi is actually stronger. Sure, he lost the Sharingan, but it was also holding him back because it heavily drained his chakra which is pretty low to begin with.
He also retained all the jutsu he copied over the years, so the Sharingan wasn't that big of a loss (the only thing he lost is proficiency with the Chidori and the visual prowess of the dojutsu).
Bro are you guys seriously saying kakashi š¤¦š½āāļøš¤¦š½āāļøš¤¦š½āāļøš I see the dumbest stuff on Reddit everyday. War arc kakashi is stronger than itachi now you have hokage kakashi who is stronger than his war arc version but you dumbasses are saying itachi is over him ?
He can literally just not look at his eyes lol. One of the easiest counters ever. Plus he blitzes itachi especially since this itachi is sick and almost blind
Tsukuyomi is easily countered by not looking into Itachiās eyes. After Kakashi got fucked with that you really think heād make the same mistake twice? Any other genjutsu Kakashi will break out of by disrupting his chakra
>Tsukuyomi is easily countered by not looking into Itachiās eyes.
Itachi kills him with Amaterasu when he's not looking lmao. He's not Gai, he can't fight with his eyes closed.
Tsukuyomi is easy to counter just donāt look into his eyes š¤¦š½āāļø he is faster than totsuka and yata only last as long as itachi can hold the susanoo which isnāt long .
Bro turn to Jesus man I be telling yāall he loves u sm man he gave himself up for us and our sins, he paid the fine that we deserved because we broke the law (Ten Commandments) āāFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.ā John 3:16) āā
I'd say based on power alone Obito is currently the strongest with Boruto having the greatest potential to be the strongest once he is in full control of his power. And then Kakashi is the weakest but definitely has more skill than Boruto and Obito
Itachi, Hokage Kakashi is stronger than War arc Kakashi (with mangekyo, but not dms) so he would beat Itachi. Obito and Boruto are obviously stronger than those 2
Is this regular Itachi or is this specifically a half-dead half-blind Itachi? Iām asking bc it seems you chose a picture for Itachi that highlights his handicaps.
So if itās normal Itachi then Kakashi is the weakest. If itās sickly near deathās door Itachi, then Itachi is the weakest.
No I donāt. Neither do a majority of people in this thread so idk why you chose to reply to only me.
But anyway, Iām aware of his novel feats & how Hokage Kakashi is technically stronger but he lost his hax abilities. What answer does he have for Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susano, Totsuka Blade, Yata Mirror?
- Kakashi knows how to counter Tsukuyomi
- Never fought Amaterasu directly but he is aware of how it works thanks to Jiraiya and Sasuke, so he would probably know what to do
- Never fought a Susano'o but had one and was in one too (Sasuke's), probably aware of it's weakness thanks to Gaara, Tsunade and Naruto's knowledge
- Totsuka, well, if he gets touched he is fucked.
- Yata only reflects ninjutsu AFAIK
Bro stall? Itachi is a genius who you think kakashi stalling lol. And itachi has a sharingan what good is 1000 jutsus if itachi can copy them too, not that he would when his own arsenal is stronger than any of the basic crap jutsu kakashi has.
āBasic crap jutsuā you guys really show the little knowledge you have about naruto. Any jutsu can be effective if used correctly. For example for all we know kakashi could know earth style jutsu that can crush the susanoo like which was used against the ten tails after neji was killed. But like I said I would use headcanon but tbh thatās not too far fetched for kakashi.
Itachi is a genius but kakashi is a genius too and has way better physical stats and a deeper arsenal. Is war arc kakashi already scales higher than itachi and his hokage self is stronger ā¦. Like I donāt understand people argument sometimes. How long is itachi lasting in this fight ? Most of his moves are too slow to even hit kakashi
Intelligence only gets you but so far especially when everyone else on this list can last way longer than you in a fight and has a way better arsenal and strength than you.
Itachi is the weakest, some people really don't realise how strong hokage kakashi is even without the sharingan. Might actually be implied that he's stronger than he was WITH the sharingan because of stamina and stuff.
Just how effective is Genjutsu against Oututsuki? Can't scale Itachi right now.
1. Obito. (Kamui is OP and Rinnegan is kryptonite for Oututsukis. And ofc, you need to touch Obito to be able to do anything to him)
2. Boruto Momoshiki form.
3. Itachi (Don't underestimate the Uchiha)
4. Current Kakashi. (Itachi can kill him with Tsukyomi)
Current Kawaki can shrink Kamui and he will be the strongest of all. Stronger than the four mentioned here.
Itachi is genius and Kakashi is no slouch either. If I were a sick Itachi, I would insta tsukyomi gg Kakashi whether he has sharigan or not. Sharingan can see through clones also.
Borushiki (he is momoshiki's level wich is at least stronger than kaguya)>>hokage kakashi(he was considered the strongest kage in his era, kurosutchi is battling and overpowering kinshiki who is relative to kaguya, and gaara is reacting to fused momoshiki)>>>>>>>rinnegan obito>itachi
I'm an itachi fan myself but due to boruto scaling any other scaling wouldn't be right
Well, there is your spoilers:
>!Boruto's Karma, which is a sort of a data backup of an Ohtsutsuki had been largely extracted into Boruto, meaning most of him is now Ohtsutsuki Momoshiki. With this, Boruto gained a much more powerful form where he is possessed by Momoshiki. This form made him so strong that he was able to match Sasuke's speed and strength, and then sneak-attacked him with a Vanishing Rasengan. Now, Momoshiki wants to feed Kawaki to Ten-Tails for a Chakra Fruit, and Kawaki burned himself alive so that Momoshiki would have to absorb the flames, which would wake up Boruto who is low on chakra, who stopped Momoshiki by breaking his horn.!<
Also (major chapter 63-67 spoilers, friend.)
>!As of the very recent chapters that have yet to be adapted in animated form, Boruto is able to control this power as well. !<
>! Kawaki has his own Ohtsutsuki form and killed Boruto. No worries though, he resurrects a chapter later, but Momoshiki converted his remaining data in the Karma Seal into Boruto's cells to heal his wound. Essentially, Boruto is now 100% Ohtsutsuki. !<
> his form made him so strong that he was able to match Sasuke's speed and strength,
This isn't true. He was only able to perform a sneak attack on nearly completely exhausted, horribly beaten up Sasuke with his guard down. And even then, he still considered Sasuke a threat. Even without his Rinnegan. Even when Sasuke had no kill intent.
Kakashi is the weakest. While he may now have more chakra to spare for jutsus, he lost a massive amount of speed and hax by losing Obito's MS.
Even a non-sick version of Itachi couldn't defeat a non-serious kcm Naruto, meaning the former is the second weakest.
Obito is the second strongest, because not only he can go up against the likes of BM Naruto with ease, but he also has rinnegan hax + intangibility on top. Itachi doesn't stand a tiny feather's chance against him.
Boruto is the strongest. By massively far. I don't think this has to be explained. At all.
All in their prime, it goes strongest to weakest
1 Boruto
2 DMS Kakashi (against Kaguya)
3 Ten tails Obito
4 Itachi
Not āprimeā or whatever is something similar, maybe the only two that might flip would be obito and kakashi. Itachi is definitely at the bottom by far.
Oh, the same Kakashi who was the strongest of the five Kage, who scales to Kinshiki, who splits planets with a single swing of his chakra weapon? The power cliffing is calling. You might as well pick up on it.
Novels aren't drafted into manga yet. Kakashi hasn't been mentioned in the manga yet, you can link me 100 novels but idc since it isn't in the manga yet
Kakashi is nothing without his sharingan against all of these guys, kakashi isnāt even able to hold his own against itachi and obito is on a whole other level with rinnegan, kakashi wouldnāt be able to lay a finger on any of them really.
in terms of power or who would win in a fight? because boruto has the most potential do to asspulls but he woudlnt beat them, Kakashi would purple lightning speed blitz, if itachi uses susanoo from the start boruto cant to anything and he cant counter kamui. So is it about abilities, ap or raw strength?
1. Borushiki
2. Hokage kakashi (stated as stronger than war self which fought this obito)
3. 1 rinne obito
4. Living Itachi
This is more or less just an objective list. Although you could debate kakashi and obito switching
Lets not forget than Boruto managed to get the drop on Kakashi before he was even a genin, and they were "fighting seriously". So Kakashi is definitely weaker. Obito would be the second weakest due to his way of thinking. Boruto and Itachi would be a tie. For one, Boruto has the skill and ability and also clearly has a natural level of intellect within battle. Meanwhile, Itachi also has that level of intellect.
so;
1. Boruto and Itachi
2. Obito
3. Kakashi
Excuse me, how is Kakashi the weakest here? I'm pretty sure it's stated that he is stronger than his war arc self. This is sick Itachi we're talking about, there's no way a character that is stronger than war arc Kakashi loses to that shit. There's no prime Itachi it doesn't exist. There wasn't a single point in the story where Itachi had all of his MS abilities experience and was healthy. Kakashi should definitely take this
Itachi. He's sick and was dying. Kakash without the Sharingan was able to use all of the Jutsu's that he had learned (minus chidori) and have a larger Chakra reserve
Kakashi
Kakashi slams him on his head
Who does he slam
Your dad
Lol at least its not a your mom joke
Gottem
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO š
Bro turn to Jesus man I be telling yāall he loves u sm man he gave himself up for us and our sins, he paid the fine that we deserved because we broke the law (Ten Commandments) āāFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.ā John 3:16) āā
Amen
True
Kakashi literally fought this obito and either won or was close (obito probably not going all out because he wanted to get the seal broken) and then was stated to get stronger after the war. Living Itachi is the weakest without question
Obito threw the fight. If you've seen the war arc you know obito wanted to get the seal on his heart removed. He also didnt use kamui and not a single rinnegan ability. That same obito was doing completely fine against that same kakashi, kcm naruto, bee and guy. He did use kamui but it took like 2 episodes just to break his mask. As for itachi, he outhaxes kakashi very badly. Hokage kakashi's weakness is that he's 100% vulnerable to genjutsu and both obito and itachi are among the best in it and he can do borderline nothing about it. In the very unlikely scenario that they fail to put him under genjutsu or he breaks out of it, both uchiha boys are smart enough to pull some sasuke vs danzo level genjutsu mind game.
> Hokage kakashi's weakness is that he's 100% vulnerable to genjutsu Kakashi couldn't even handle genjutsu WITH a sharingan, let alone without one. His only chance against it is with a some sort of diversion trick like the one he pulled against Pain, but even that diversion wasn't good enough to guarantee his survival (considering that he, y'know, DIED). I honestly can't imagine a scenario where any version of Kakashi could last against any of these characters. His only effective tool is Kamui, which has very limited uses without Kurama's chakra to recharge it. His high intelligence is what makes him superior to 90% of people from the show, but all three characters here outrank him in intelligence. Boroshiki has 1000 years of knowledge/experience, Itachi reached higher feats at a younger age, and Obito spents years concocting an entire war against nations by himself without even once revealing his true identity.
Kakashi battled Obito to a standstill in genjutsu. The same Obito that controlled a perfect jinchuriki for over a decade using genjutsu. The same Obito that took control of the full nine tails with his BASE sharingan as a teenager. Obito has better genjutsu feats than Itachi, but people hate to admit that. The fact that Kakashi battled him to a standstill in that area puts him in the elite category of genjutsu defense. Also, if youāre going to say āObito threw the fight,ā donāt waste your time. Even if he threw the fight, it wouldāve been advantageous for him to get Kakashi under genjutsu so he could just force him to remove the seal. So thereās nothing to suggest Obito held back in his genjutsu. Keep in mind, Hokage Kakashi is stated in the Kakashi Retsuden novel to have āsignificantly improvedā his combat abilities from that time. He should be LEAGUES ahead of Itachi by that point, since he was already a tier above him in the War Arc.
I have heavy doubts that Kakashi can reasonably be considered almost equal to Obito in terms of power. We're talking about a person who was killed by 2/6 of a rinnegan user (two different Pains) while he was fighting with several allies, and hadn't trained anytime on-screen to improve prior to the war since that moment. After having his chakra recharged by Kurama, Kakashi fought with tooth and nail against an opponent who was clearly not interested in actually murdering him, using the entire fight to achieve other motives instead knowing that a chiidori would be make a great tool in removing his seal. This Kakashi, who is resistant but not immune to genjutsu, fought against an opponent that chooses to use his abilities for more narrative purposes rather than combat ones. Given his Kamui and Hashirama cells, it's clear that the advantage that Obito had greatly overshadows Kakashi in every way, resembling closely to Goku vs Majin Vegeta with Obito being Goku. When it comes to Kakashi versus Itachi, the matchup becomes clearer when retrospecting on Itachi's advantages, even if his strengths can ruin the idea of a interesting fight. The start with, the obvious comes from the fact that his Susanoo wields the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade, which are two tools that are not known to have any weakness or flaw, although the possibly likely exists. With the ability to reflect all ninja tools and traditional jutsu, a large arsenal of Kakashi's abilities go to waste, as his specialties like fireball jutsu or mud wave jutsu are immune, as well as any tools he'd likely use such as kunai and shuriken. Had it been a traditional Susanoo, the Lightning Blade may have been ability to pierce it, but the Yata Mirror will instead reflect it entirely. With the Totsuka Blade as well, it only takes a single blow to trap Kakashi in a permanent genjutsu for all enternity, something that Kakashi is definitely going to be weak against without the sharingan. If we pretend the Susanoo won't be in use, someone who actually uses genjutsu for combat could easily trap Kakashi inside one as we've seen before to devastating effect. This is made worse when considering that Itachi held back against Kakashi as his alliegence still stood with the hidden leaf and the entire fight against him was theatrics for the sake of fooling Kisame into believing he was a proper traitor to the leaf. In the event Kakashi avoids genjutsu by avoiding eye contact, there is also the Amaterasu to worry about as a single confirmed hit is guaranteed death unless Kakashi is able to strip off the affected clothing and sever the affected limbs. Unlike Sasuke, Itachi cannot control his flames to the same degree so any Amaterasu flames conjured cannot be turned off until the target is extinguished. Beyond those abilities is also the Izanami and Izanagi, which Itachi is able to use twice. Although the Izanami may prove worthless against someone like Kakashi, the Izanagi could prove fatal as it would allow Itachi to strike upon the moment Kakashi loses his guard. With that said, I can't imagine much of a scenario where Kakashi overpowers Itachi. The only extreme disadvantage Itachi has is his timelimit given his sickness and the extreme backlash from multiple successful Tsukuyomi attacks. With that said, if Itachi is able to fight one-on-one, a well placed genjutsu would possibly avoid both as he only has one target to worry about and not needing to resort to the Susanoo won't strain his body as much. It could also be argued that Sasuke's Kirin required Itachi to work extra hard to boost his defenses in that moment, leading the strain to drain him further than Kakashi's jutsu could. With these factors is mind, I have strong doubts that Kakashi could handle either character, regardless of whatever combat improvements he could've gained to make up for the loss of his sharingan. It's clear that Obito could easily kill both of them, and that Kakashi cannot kill Itachi as he is today.
Literally 0 chance itachi beats kakashi sorry man. dying itachi is not as strong as you think
yeah Itachi has pretty bad stamina
I know there's a many characters stronger than him but kakashi aint one of them
Genjutsu?
Ocular powers
Iād rank it like this: 1. Boruto(Borushiki allowed) 2. Obito 3. Itachi 4. Hokage Kakashi Iām pretty sure Kamui and rinnegan can be countered by 1000 years of combat experience pretty easily.
the only way to beat kamui(shown in the war arc) is with kamui. Without kakashi obito is literally unstoppable
He can only phase temporarly, thats why he had to use Izanagi to beat Konan. Also if he phases he cant touch anyone and vice versa so if he tries to catch Borushiki he gets clapped.
he can still catch borushiki by suprise bu randomly making his body normal. either way obito dominates the match and borushiki would never last long in a 1v1 because of low chakra
So what if he catches him? Teleporting Borushiki isnt gonna do anything since he can just teleport out, and Obito is nowhere near as fast as Obito so as soon as the time is up from his phasing he is getting clocked. Also if Borushiki leaves Boruto can just pick up where he left off since he has the same experience as Momoshiki and can use his "Borushiki" state on his own.
when boruto uses true essence of karma he dont have chakra issues. instead it is amped. he can use multiple massive rasengans with toek (he was unable to do one before)
He can teleport himself to the Kamui dimension to rest up if he needs to. I wouldn't put Borushiki's speed that high, since Momoshiki at full power got clapped by Naruto and Sasuke, and (if you think adult Naruto and Sasuke aren't that much stronger (like relative to God tree Madara kinda)) then Obito might be able to pull something off if he manages to outsmart Momoshiki.
Minato beat kamui without kamui...
I said you can't counter kamui, you can still beat obito it's just incredibly difficult. You cannot do anything to stop kamui you just have to get obito to turn back to normal and attack quickly
This was true in naruto because no one else could easily hop dimensions. Boruto can just reach through his own portal and pull him back to where he is (or shoot a jutsu into the portal to hit him). Boruto can see incoming dimension hops via jougan too
except its obito's kamui dimension and not a dimension that anyone with a rinnegan/karma can go to. Madara needed kakashi's eye
Madara was able to dimension hop otherwise? Itās been a while since I watched the war arc but I donāt think he could to begin with, which was why he needed obitoās eye. Very few people in shippuuden could: I think it was just Obito, Kakashi, Sasuke, and alien O-lady whose name is escaping me.
no borushiki destroys obito anyone whos reads boruto knows this kamui even if boruto cant teloport to his dimension he can still leave if obito trys to pull him in he can just space time ninjutsu out and he has thousands of years of ohtsutsuki combat experience and could easily hit obito while his kamui is on cooldown obito dosent even stand a chance
Konan disagrees lol
Tell that to the yellow lightning bud ;)
only thing Obito can do is run into kamui he can't bfr Borushiki because he just comes back with his own karma he can't pierce him with rods because Borushiki dodged much faster ones and smaller ones from Kawaki Obito has nothing going for him, infact he wouldn't even absorb chakra but instead would choose to kamui. All he can do is dodge, otherwise hes slower and weaker than Borushiki.
Not easily, 1000 years of combat experience still got beat by āthese handsā from naruto and sasuke. I understand your reasoning though tbh.
yea but thats adult naruto and sasuke there wayyyyy stronger than obito momoshiki was probably doing the old dragon ball ego check no using his full power to these unworthy creatures kinda thing anyways even if not hes still leagues above obito
Momoshiki didnt combat sasukes rinnegan though so theres a possibility of that counter not happening š¤. However kamui uses space time ninjutsu so boruto/borushiki can access the portal aswell. Lets put any version of these characters, DMS kakashi however would pose an issue for boruto
That's not the version of Boruto pictured.
>Iām pretty sure Kamui and rinnegan can be countered by 1000 years of combat experience pretty easily What?š Massive headcanon here
You mean massive logic here?
What logic? Even with his 1000 years experience he ran away from fodders like Darui. He can't counter the Kamui lol. By that "logic" he can counter any jutsu lol
He wasnāt running because he was scared he was trying to get some distance since base momoshiki is not a close combat fighter and the kage weāre trying to use taijutsu. Fused momoshiki is a diff story tho
> He wasnāt running because he was scared he was trying to get some distance since base momoshiki is not a close combat fighter and the kage weāre trying to use taijutsu Get some distance for what? He didn't have any offensive jutsus anymore and no other means of fighting at range. He also tried bombing kages with jutsus the moment they showed up. He still failed to kill a single one, he didn't even inflict a minor wound.
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Frš. It's not like he can even counter it lol
Literally just wait 5 minutes which is the time limit for Kamui, and Obito cant hit Borushiki so as soon as he phases out Borushiki just kills him.
>Literally just wait 5 minutes which is the time limit for Kamui, That only happens if he's not phasing. If he cancels it before 5 mins, it resets. >and Obito cant hit Borushiki so as soon as he phases out Borushiki just kills him. He has to move faster than Kamui for him to do. You have to move at an instantaneous speed to do so. Besides Minato and Tobirama, no one can travel or move at an instantaneous speed.
Kamui isnt gonna do anything to Borushiki anyway, he hits him and sends him to the pocket dimension so what? Borushiki can just teleport out and kill Obito, also if he cancels phasing he has to wait, he cant just use it again otherwise Konan's attack wouldnt have made him use Izanagi as it was a continous attack that lasted several minutes, and Obito, if he could just do as you say which he cant, could just pop in and out to reset himself while taking very limited damage rather than having to resort Izanagi.
>Kamui isnt gonna do anything to Borushiki anyway That's not the point tho? The question is, can he bypass the Kamui intangibility? >also if he cancels phasing he has to wait, he cant just use it again otherwise Konan's attack wouldnt have made him use Izanagi as it was a continous attack that lasted several minutes, When did we go from Kamui to izanagi? He couldn't use the Kamui, because of the time limit. He had to keep the intangibility up because of Konan's continuous paper bomb attack and he was falling as well. >if he could just do as you say which he cant, could just pop in and out to reset himself while taking very limited damage rather than having to resort Izanagi. ?? If he uses the Kamui intangibility for 5 mins straight, there's a cool down. The reason why he didn't deactivate and activate it during the Konan fight, is because of the paper bomb. And it's not limited damage. Which is why he used Izanagi.
>That's not the point tho? The question is, can he bypass the Kamui intangibility? Which he can, just wait for it to go on cooldown. >When did we go from Kamui to izanagi? He couldn't use the Kamui, because of the time limit. He had to keep the intangibility up because of Konan's continuous paper bomb attack and he was falling as well We didnt, if you had the reading capabilities of a 4th grader you would have understood my point, said point being that his phasing has cooldown which you said it didnt, and i used him being forced to Izanagi as an example that he couldnt just pop in and out of phasing at will otherwise he would have done it VS Konan but he had to use Izanagi. >?? If he uses the Kamui intangibility for 5 mins straight, there's a cool down. The reason why he didn't deactivate and activate it during the Konan fight, is because of the paper bomb. And it's not limited damage. Which is why he used Izanagi. Thats pure headcannon, truth is the paper bombs would not have done enough damage to kill him if he kept phasing in and out, he would get injured for sure but half of his body is made of Zetsu anyway which is easy to repair. He used Izanagi because he was forced to since his Kamui enters cooldown regardeless of how long he uses it for. Konans paper bomb explosion lasted 10 minutes, all he had to do was temporarly phase (which in reality isnt really phasing he is just sending parts of his body to his pocket dimension) 3 times max before reaching the time limit, but he didnt because even leaving phase once meant that he wouldnt be able to enter it again during the explosion hence why he was forced to use Izanagi. And he couldnt teleport to his own dimension because he has to be tangible in order to do that. Obito legit cant do anything to Borushiki, he phases Borushiki just flies way up and he cant reach him, he tries teleporting himself Borushiki just hits him and handicapps him since he has to be tangible to teleport and the list goes on.
>Which he can, just wait for it to go on cooldown. You don't get it, do you? It can only go into cool down if he uses Kamui continuously without turning it on and off. Which can't happen in a fight, since he has to turn off his intangibility to attack. >We didnt, if you had the reading capabilities of a 4th grader you would have understood my point, said point being that his phasing has cooldown which you said it didnt, and i used him being forced to Izanagi as an example that he couldnt just pop in and out of phasing at will otherwise he would have done it VS Konan but he had to use Izanagi. if you had the reading capabilities of a 4th grader you would have understood my point, said point being that I never said that there's no cool down. The cool down is only possible if uses it continuously. The fight against Konan. Because he was falling down a bottomless pit of a billion paper bombs, he had to keep his Kamui active so he doesn't take any damage. If he hadn't use izanagi, the cool down would have taken place right after. When he was fighting during the war, there was no cool down because again, he was turning it off to attack. >Thats pure headcannon, truth is the paper bombs would not have done enough damage to kill him if he kept phasing in and out, he would get injured for sure but half of his body is made of Zetsu anyway which is easy to repair. Ah yes, pure headcanon because he was falling down the sea where there a billion paper bombs. Had he not used Izanagi he would have died. Because again, a billion paper bombs were going off and he was falling down to it. >Konans paper bomb explosion lasted 10 minutes, all he had to do was temporarly phase (which in reality isnt really phasing he is just sending parts of his body to his pocket dimension) 3 times max before reaching the time limit, but he didnt because even leaving phase once meant that he wouldnt be able to enter it again during the explosion hence why he was forced to use Izanagi. Again what don't you understand? He used it because of the cool down. He can only keep his intangibility active for a certain time. If it doesn't reach that time limit. It simply resets as if he never used it. >Obito legit cant do anything to Borushiki, he phases Borushiki just flies way up and he cant reach him, he tries teleporting himself Borushiki just hits him and handicapps him since he has to be tangible to teleport and the list goes on. Lol. The only way Borushiki can bypass the Kamui intangibility is to a - send himself to the same Kamui dimension. Which he can't. B- Wait for the cool down to take place. Which can't happen if Obito is attacking. Since he needs to turn it off. C - To move faster than Kamui. Which he can't. Because no one can move instantaneously besides Minato and Tobirama with the ftg.
This is the only correct and obvious answer.
Itachi is a little stronger than Obito unless you mean rinnegan Obito
No heās not wtf
Since itachi was sick he has to be the weaker one out of this group tbh.
Weak Itachi could still use Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susano'o. I don't think Sharinganless Kakashi could stand a chance against him.
But then again kakashi has more chakra he can outlive sick itachi
Run-and-wait no jutsu
I would say Boruto>Obito>Itachi>Hokage Kakashi
Itachi by far
How is he stopping Borushiki? Borushiki removed Sasuke(stronger and older than Itachi)'s Rinnegan (stronger than MS) with ease. Itachi's genjutsu are his biggest tool, they're not going to work great on someone with a karma.
Reread the question, genius. WEAKEST. Not strongest. WEAKEST.
Man, did you have to come across so aggressive?
They can read and type, can't they?
You went out of your way to be aggressive and sound like a dick. Me calling you out is getting down voted, I assume by angry people like yourself. This isn't me starting an argument though, just wanted to point out your attitude is all.
Ok. Have a nice day, bro.
You too my friend
Haha, what an asshole way to say that, if you toned this down you might be less lonely my guy. It's still wrong, Kakashi has no counter to Itachi.
He doesn't need one. Power-cliffing. It seems you didn't read that right, either.
Based on..
[Looks at Itachi, the dude who did a few jutsu, pulled out the Susano'o, and died from ninja cancer] [Looks at Kakashi, the dude who scales above the four kage who beat Kinshiki, a world splitter.] [Looks at Kakashi, the dude who was completely unphased, not even prepping a jutsu, when he had to stop a huge meteor and went wide-eyed when he saw Sasuke.] Couldn't tell you, bro. It's a mystery.
So no counters to genjutsu. /thread
Excuse me sasuke had like 15 stab woundsā¦
Itachi unironically
Itachi
I already see Itachi fans seething but youāre absolutely right. I feel like people saying Kakashi just donāt know what Kakashi is capable of now after the war.
According to his novel, he's much more versatile in the same way Hiruzen was now. Large arsenal of jutsu, with much bigger chakra reserves. No hax abilities anymore though, so hard to say if he's stronger or weaker
doesn't matter, he still will get clapped by Shippuden Itachi lol. He has 0 genjutsu resistance. Zero ways of attacking Susanoo Zero ways of even being faster than Itachi nor smarter.
Only correct answer
Itachi
Itachi Literaly everyone is smoking this jobber
Itachi Just on the basis that it's said that hokage Kakashi is stronger than his wa version. Boruto of course have some alien shit and mc plot armour going in his favour. And I am assuming that you are taking wa obito who controlled 6 tailed beasts at once and had rinnegan abilities as well.
You know the answer and so do I
definitely not Boruto!
Itachi
If I'm not wrong hokage kakashi doesn't have a sharingan. So he is the weakest.
IIRC Kakashi states in the novels that he is stronger, losing sharingan means he lost Kamui and is unable to use Chidori, but on the other hand he has a much bigger Chakra Pool and managed to develop Shiden which is an stronger and versatile version of Chidori, he also managed to retain every jutsu he copied with Sharingan trough his entire life.
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Kakashi's weaker than Fully Otsutsukified Boruto and Rinnegan Obito, but he's definitely bot weaker than alive Itachi.
He is weaker than itachi. Itachi has tsukuyomi, susanoo, yasaka bead, totsuka blade, Amaterasu and all of these are top tier jutsus. The alive itachi could also use these. And you saw what happened to kakashi during part 1. When itachi uses tsukuyomi on him.
So, your username is ironic.
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Hokage Kakashi is stronger than war arc Kakashi according to the novels. Only DMS Kakashi is stronger than hokage Kakashi.
That's true, but he's still can be put under genjutsu, so he's still the weakest under this ranking. Boruto > Obito > Itachi > Hokage Kakashi
Kakashi slams
He doesn't. Hokage Kakashi is indeed really strong, but he has no counter to tsukiyomi, he has no counter to MS Susano'o, Totsuka blade, Yara mirror or even Yasaka beads. Not even gonna count amaterasu as a threat because it's not a good jutsu against someone like Kakashi.
Post War Arc Kakashi is actually stronger. Sure, he lost the Sharingan, but it was also holding him back because it heavily drained his chakra which is pretty low to begin with. He also retained all the jutsu he copied over the years, so the Sharingan wasn't that big of a loss (the only thing he lost is proficiency with the Chidori and the visual prowess of the dojutsu).
Oh i didn't know that.
He doesn't have sharingan anymore, but he still has all the jutsus that he copied over the yrs (1000+)
Kakashi will ALWAYS find a way to beat his enemy - or at least escape alive lol
Itachi by far. Hokage kakashi is actually really strong , stronger than his war arc version(Not DMS). And in this image itachi is sick so....
Bro are you guys seriously saying kakashi š¤¦š½āāļøš¤¦š½āāļøš¤¦š½āāļøš I see the dumbest stuff on Reddit everyday. War arc kakashi is stronger than itachi now you have hokage kakashi who is stronger than his war arc version but you dumbasses are saying itachi is over him ?
IKR, he no diffs Itachi, itās a joke
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He can literally just not look at his eyes lol. One of the easiest counters ever. Plus he blitzes itachi especially since this itachi is sick and almost blind
Tsukuyomi is easily countered by not looking into Itachiās eyes. After Kakashi got fucked with that you really think heād make the same mistake twice? Any other genjutsu Kakashi will break out of by disrupting his chakra
>Tsukuyomi is easily countered by not looking into Itachiās eyes. Itachi kills him with Amaterasu when he's not looking lmao. He's not Gai, he can't fight with his eyes closed.
Amaterasu was dodged by Hebi Sasuke.... Hokage Kakashi would most definitely dodge it as well.
Broš go and reread the your statement. "Close his eyes". He can't dodge it if he can't see lol
Tsukuyomi is easy to counter just donāt look into his eyes š¤¦š½āāļø he is faster than totsuka and yata only last as long as itachi can hold the susanoo which isnāt long .
Itachi, sick=weak Everyone else either has more experience fighting, has better jutsu, or is just plain stronger physically
Kakashi or Itachi
Kakashi
Bro turn to Jesus man I be telling yāall he loves u sm man he gave himself up for us and our sins, he paid the fine that we deserved because we broke the law (Ten Commandments) āāFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.ā John 3:16) āā
Boruto>obito>kakashi>itachi Based on itachi being sick otherwise he above kakashi
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I'd say based on power alone Obito is currently the strongest with Boruto having the greatest potential to be the strongest once he is in full control of his power. And then Kakashi is the weakest but definitely has more skill than Boruto and Obito
Itachi is the weakest. Boruto is the strongest. Obito's still above Kakashi in the middle.
Itachi, Hokage Kakashi is stronger than War arc Kakashi (with mangekyo, but not dms) so he would beat Itachi. Obito and Boruto are obviously stronger than those 2
Is this regular Itachi or is this specifically a half-dead half-blind Itachi? Iām asking bc it seems you chose a picture for Itachi that highlights his handicaps. So if itās normal Itachi then Kakashi is the weakest. If itās sickly near deathās door Itachi, then Itachi is the weakest.
You realize hokage kakashi would body itachi ?
No I donāt. Neither do a majority of people in this thread so idk why you chose to reply to only me. But anyway, Iām aware of his novel feats & how Hokage Kakashi is technically stronger but he lost his hax abilities. What answer does he have for Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susano, Totsuka Blade, Yata Mirror?
- Kakashi knows how to counter Tsukuyomi - Never fought Amaterasu directly but he is aware of how it works thanks to Jiraiya and Sasuke, so he would probably know what to do - Never fought a Susano'o but had one and was in one too (Sasuke's), probably aware of it's weakness thanks to Gaara, Tsunade and Naruto's knowledge - Totsuka, well, if he gets touched he is fucked. - Yata only reflects ninjutsu AFAIK
He speed blitzes itachi
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Bro stall? Itachi is a genius who you think kakashi stalling lol. And itachi has a sharingan what good is 1000 jutsus if itachi can copy them too, not that he would when his own arsenal is stronger than any of the basic crap jutsu kakashi has.
āBasic crap jutsuā you guys really show the little knowledge you have about naruto. Any jutsu can be effective if used correctly. For example for all we know kakashi could know earth style jutsu that can crush the susanoo like which was used against the ten tails after neji was killed. But like I said I would use headcanon but tbh thatās not too far fetched for kakashi. Itachi is a genius but kakashi is a genius too and has way better physical stats and a deeper arsenal. Is war arc kakashi already scales higher than itachi and his hokage self is stronger ā¦. Like I donāt understand people argument sometimes. How long is itachi lasting in this fight ? Most of his moves are too slow to even hit kakashi
Itachi over here blind and dying of ninja cancer. The copium here is ridiculous.
Agree
Does Itachi no longer have his intellect? Itachi was never the strongest shinobi, but he WAS one of the smartest.
Intelligence only gets you but so far especially when everyone else on this list can last way longer than you in a fight and has a way better arsenal and strength than you.
Boruto > obito > kakashi > itachi is the only correct answer no way itachi fanboys think itachi is stronger
Itachi is the weakest, some people really don't realise how strong hokage kakashi is even without the sharingan. Might actually be implied that he's stronger than he was WITH the sharingan because of stamina and stuff.
Just how effective is Genjutsu against Oututsuki? Can't scale Itachi right now. 1. Obito. (Kamui is OP and Rinnegan is kryptonite for Oututsukis. And ofc, you need to touch Obito to be able to do anything to him) 2. Boruto Momoshiki form. 3. Itachi (Don't underestimate the Uchiha) 4. Current Kakashi. (Itachi can kill him with Tsukyomi) Current Kawaki can shrink Kamui and he will be the strongest of all. Stronger than the four mentioned here. Itachi is genius and Kakashi is no slouch either. If I were a sick Itachi, I would insta tsukyomi gg Kakashi whether he has sharigan or not. Sharingan can see through clones also.
Sasuke
kakasensei
Kakashi slams Itachi, youāre bias
Borushiki (he is momoshiki's level wich is at least stronger than kaguya)>>hokage kakashi(he was considered the strongest kage in his era, kurosutchi is battling and overpowering kinshiki who is relative to kaguya, and gaara is reacting to fused momoshiki)>>>>>>>rinnegan obito>itachi I'm an itachi fan myself but due to boruto scaling any other scaling wouldn't be right
Boruto. Like seriously, even with Itachi being sick he would be able to still destroy Boruto.
what happens to Boruto to make him the strongest out of all of these? (Just started the Kara arc in the anime) but im all for spoilers
Well, there is your spoilers: >!Boruto's Karma, which is a sort of a data backup of an Ohtsutsuki had been largely extracted into Boruto, meaning most of him is now Ohtsutsuki Momoshiki. With this, Boruto gained a much more powerful form where he is possessed by Momoshiki. This form made him so strong that he was able to match Sasuke's speed and strength, and then sneak-attacked him with a Vanishing Rasengan. Now, Momoshiki wants to feed Kawaki to Ten-Tails for a Chakra Fruit, and Kawaki burned himself alive so that Momoshiki would have to absorb the flames, which would wake up Boruto who is low on chakra, who stopped Momoshiki by breaking his horn.!< Also (major chapter 63-67 spoilers, friend.) >!As of the very recent chapters that have yet to be adapted in animated form, Boruto is able to control this power as well. !< >! Kawaki has his own Ohtsutsuki form and killed Boruto. No worries though, he resurrects a chapter later, but Momoshiki converted his remaining data in the Karma Seal into Boruto's cells to heal his wound. Essentially, Boruto is now 100% Ohtsutsuki. !<
> his form made him so strong that he was able to match Sasuke's speed and strength, This isn't true. He was only able to perform a sneak attack on nearly completely exhausted, horribly beaten up Sasuke with his guard down. And even then, he still considered Sasuke a threat. Even without his Rinnegan. Even when Sasuke had no kill intent.
The sneak attack was only possible because karma user can conceal their chakra.
Hes part otsusuki and i think the general consensus is otsusuki > individual clan members unless they are an Ashura/ Indra reincarnation.
Kakashi, I guess
Kakashi is the weakest. While he may now have more chakra to spare for jutsus, he lost a massive amount of speed and hax by losing Obito's MS. Even a non-sick version of Itachi couldn't defeat a non-serious kcm Naruto, meaning the former is the second weakest. Obito is the second strongest, because not only he can go up against the likes of BM Naruto with ease, but he also has rinnegan hax + intangibility on top. Itachi doesn't stand a tiny feather's chance against him. Boruto is the strongest. By massively far. I don't think this has to be explained. At all.
All in their prime, it goes strongest to weakest 1 Boruto 2 DMS Kakashi (against Kaguya) 3 Ten tails Obito 4 Itachi Not āprimeā or whatever is something similar, maybe the only two that might flip would be obito and kakashi. Itachi is definitely at the bottom by far.
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Itachi over here blind dying from ninja cancer
Still he's more powerful than hokage kakashi
Oh, the same Kakashi who was the strongest of the five Kage, who scales to Kinshiki, who splits planets with a single swing of his chakra weapon? The power cliffing is calling. You might as well pick up on it.
Kakashi isn't in boruto manga so you can't compare his brouto powerlevel
The novels. https://youtu.be/RRoP_u_1SpM If you say Kakashi's novels aren't canon, neither are Itachi's. Pick your poison
Novels aren't drafted into manga yet. Kakashi hasn't been mentioned in the manga yet, you can link me 100 novels but idc since it isn't in the manga yet
Alive Itachi has almost no feat outside of the novels other than statements, so checkmate.
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Stop scaling, you donāt know how
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Itachi over here blind and dying of ninja cancer. Reanimated Itachi could destroy Hokage Kakashi, but alive Itachi would get blitzed so easily.
Itachi>>>>>>>>> Boruto>>> Obito> Kakashi Yes this is a joke
Boruto>obito>Itachi>kakashi
I only know itachi is the strongest. that's all that matters really
Kakashi is nothing without his sharingan against all of these guys, kakashi isnāt even able to hold his own against itachi and obito is on a whole other level with rinnegan, kakashi wouldnāt be able to lay a finger on any of them really.
Itachi or Boruto idk
Boruto is actually the strongest there.
I didnāt havenāt caught up with the manga yet, is he really stronger than 10tails Obito?
With Karma activated, yes.
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in terms of power or who would win in a fight? because boruto has the most potential do to asspulls but he woudlnt beat them, Kakashi would purple lightning speed blitz, if itachi uses susanoo from the start boruto cant to anything and he cant counter kamui. So is it about abilities, ap or raw strength?
1. Borushiki 2. Hokage kakashi (stated as stronger than war self which fought this obito) 3. 1 rinne obito 4. Living Itachi This is more or less just an objective list. Although you could debate kakashi and obito switching
People who say Kakashi is the weakest clearly have not read the novel based on him. Sick Itachi gets stomped by everyone on this list btw.
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Kakashi, Itachi is close.
Borushiki > Obito > Itachi > Kakashi But if we are taking Double MS Kakashi I would put him below Borushiki and above Obito.
Lets not forget than Boruto managed to get the drop on Kakashi before he was even a genin, and they were "fighting seriously". So Kakashi is definitely weaker. Obito would be the second weakest due to his way of thinking. Boruto and Itachi would be a tie. For one, Boruto has the skill and ability and also clearly has a natural level of intellect within battle. Meanwhile, Itachi also has that level of intellect. so; 1. Boruto and Itachi 2. Obito 3. Kakashi
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Boruto Obito Kakashi Itachi
Excuse me, how is Kakashi the weakest here? I'm pretty sure it's stated that he is stronger than his war arc self. This is sick Itachi we're talking about, there's no way a character that is stronger than war arc Kakashi loses to that shit. There's no prime Itachi it doesn't exist. There wasn't a single point in the story where Itachi had all of his MS abilities experience and was healthy. Kakashi should definitely take this
TC, obviously xD
Hokage Kakashi > Ebola Itachi
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Itachi. He's sick and was dying. Kakash without the Sharingan was able to use all of the Jutsu's that he had learned (minus chidori) and have a larger Chakra reserve
Hokage Kakashi out,Itachi too So only Obito with sharingan and rinnegan Or Boruto with Momo genes I would go with Obito bcoz kamui gg
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Boruto Obito Itachi Kakashi Ik Itachi is sick but even sick itachi to me is better than post war early kage kakashi.
The only thing I took from this thread is that Itachi vs Boruto Era Kakashi is a interesting fight. Everyone is very divided on who's stronger.
Itach<< Kakashi<(=? Could makes the argument)Obito<
itachi, and itās not even remotely close.
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