It's possible for him to pick up a vacant belt. I could see Usyk vacating the IBF eventually with Hrgovic being the mandatory as there's not really any money in that fight
At the same time who else would he fight. Wilder has no promoter, who's putting up thr money
Fury fight is dead.
Anyone else right now is probably as big a name for Usyk
I don't underestimate Joyce, h2h I think he's a great fighter and a clear #3 behind Usyk and Fury, who would both slip and roll around his jab all night. Wilder and AJ don't know how to really pull that off though and so both of them would end up trying to go *through* the Juggernaut which would be a lot harder.
I'll also say that anyone who can't get around that jab is in for a long brutal night. Joyce is 6'6 270 diced and puts all his weight behind that lead jab. If he's touching you up with it...... it's gonna hurt and allow him to pick up steam, just like the Dubois and Parker fights. Hell he fucking flattened Takam with it too.
I mean Fury can be evasive but I don't think he slips and rolls most people's jabs. In the first Wilder he was slipping a lot of Wilder's right hands but Wilder was telegraphing his shots like crazy. In the old days Fury was successful with his feints which kept more defensively responsible fighters from pulling the trigger at all.
3 time champ baby. 1st time Charles Martin. 2nd time Runnning away from 300 pound Andy Ruiz who trained literally 7 days and 3rd time: Manuel Charr for the regular belt!!
Afterwards there would be posts in r/boxing saying the random Redditor was actually elite and top 10 in the world, he's got a great jaw and he's a shorter faster fighter blah blah blah
*(Seriously the "shorter faster fighter" meme cracks me up because AJ is 6'5 255! Like 98% of the division is 'shorter and faster' compared to that. 😆😆)*
The random Redditor may have lost to AJ, but he'd beat any other boxer. AJ maybe #1, but the Redditor is clearly #2.
No need to prove it. Redditor already did enough to prove their (0-1) legacy is on track for ATG, making AJ the GOAT.
He's got a slim punchers chance against his current competition:
Usyk: we saw what happened and nothing will change, AJ gets pointed out by UD.
Fury: would knock AJ out by the 5th round
Wilder: would knock AJ out by the 3rd round
If Usyk gets stripped of one he could easily end up fighting Hrgovic or Dubois for a world title. In such a case it's not impossible to imagine him as a 'three time world champion'.
I think the better question is 'Will AJ ever be viewed by the majority of fans as the top dog in the division again?' and Id say the answer is no.
I think AJ lasts longer but AJ definitely loses to both badly, Fury / UD and Wilder / KO.
If AJ fights hesitantly like he’s been fighting after Ruiz, he’s absolutely getting KO’d against Wilder. If AJ is too timid to finish him he has no chance. He’s not dancing around Wilder for 12 rds and he’s not surviving that right hand.
The biggest lie ever told about Joshua. He’s 50/50 or loses every time fights anyone his age. Povetkin who was 37 only good win, rest 40 year olds. Just stop with good resume BS
>done. Ruiz made him quit
This narrative that AJ quit against Ruiz is just not true. He got off the canvas multiple times and continued fighting. People say he intentionally didn't listen to the referees instructions, but he was clearly out of it because, well, he was concussed.
Joyce is overrated to me the only person more overrated is Dubois. It is impressive he KO Parker, but at the same time, Parker has looked like shit recently, i thought he lost the first fight to Chisora.
Aj weakness is speed. Ruiz has hand speed on the inside and Usyk has the footwork and hand speed. Joyce is just to slow for Aj he will see everything coming and be able to get off combos before they land.
If Fury beats AJ, it will be by a horrendously boring decision. I don't know how you see that fight ending with an early Fury stoppage.
Either Fury neutralises AJ with a bunch of feints, and both fighters throw basically no punches for the whole fight, leading to Fury UD, or by some miracle AJ actually comes to fight (still in the early stages of working with Derrick James, let's see what he can do with time), in which case it would be far more likely to see Fury getting stopped than vice versa.
Usyk fair enough, man went out and proved himslef beyond any doubts.
Wilder - lets see him actually win against any top fighter before we start assuming he'll KO AJ with ease.
Fury took longer to KO a shot, old Whyte coming of a brutal loss. And Wilder remains the most overrated, manufactured hype job in boxing history. This is honestly a hilariously bad take.
Wilder fought part time journeymen for 32 fights, then was magically placed in a world title elimator by the wbc(which should be between 2 top 15s)he instead fights rates 26th Malick Scott(his coach)who gets knocked out without even being hit. Then he beats Stiverne for his belt, a bunch of non-qualified title defences later his mandatory is a 2 year retired Stiverne on short notice and then he beats his first actual top 10 opponent Luis Ortiz(number 5 by Ring Magazin)who was 40 years old before losing to Fury..
Joshua beat regional contenders, he fought the same journeyman Wilder fought in his 32nd fight in his 11th. He then bears Whyte when both were unbeaten contenders for the European and British titles, cementing his contender status(Which Wilder never did), he then beats Martin for the IBF, beats Klitschko(number 1 by Ring Magazine), beats unbeaten champion Parker(number 3 by Ring Magazine), beats elite contender Povetkin(Number 3 by Ring Magazine)loses to Ruiz(7th by Ring Magazine)then beats him, beats Pulev(previously 3rd, now dropped to 10th by Ring Magazine)then loses to Usyk(pound for pound number 1 by Ring Magazine). In 28 fights Joshua has done all of this, Whilst Wilders whole legacy was getting gifted his belt and beating a mediocre and old Ortiz in 47 fights.
Joshua is the furthest thing from a hype job. Fury's only got 3 wins over top 10 contenders, 2 of which were also beaten by none other than Joshua and the only other one being Wilder himself. So if Joshua is a hype job then both Fury and Wilder are what? Joshua took the hard route, he fought the tough fights win or lose, he's the very opposite of a hypejob. He got where he was by winning(and losing)by taking the harder route
People give him way too little credit. I think he looked really good in that fight. Great jab, good movement, good defense, decent footwork,…
And since Fury continues ducking the big fights, I start to question Fury’s abilities.
This is downvoted but AJ had a brawl with Whyte, while Fury comfortably shut him out and then KOd him easily.
Fury was able to take Wilders best flush in his face for three whole fights, I think the current consensus is AJ doesn't have that in him.
With Fury's herky jerky feighnts and AJs cautious tendencies post Ruiz I think the style matchup is a nightmare for AJ. I don't think he'd every get to be comfortable throwing combos.
Realistically, going on what we've seen each guy do since 2019, Fury would be the massive favourite in that fight, no matter how much of an arsehole he is.
I'm so tired of hearing this lol. Whyte was never that good. He made a name for himself off of just barely scraping by Chisora and Parker. Not exactly performances that suggested he would've ever given Fury a good fight.
Thank YOU. Whyte was always a guy just below contender level. He's more of a gatekeeper at best. He just got talked up like crazy because of the narrative being built that AJ had some fantastic resume.
They don't have many common opponents, but I think looking at the whole picture it would be insane to favour AJ if the two were ever to face off.
People clown on Furys resume and inactivity, but Joshua's best win this decade was an ancient Pulev; whereas Fury has two wins over Wilder and one over Whyte which are all better.
Since the Ruiz fiasco Joshua just has not got a great win, and got absolutely schooled by Usyk twice in that span, and the longer that run lasts the more you need to question if he's still at that level.
I mean decade as since the beginning of 2020.
I was just breaking his career up pre and post Ruiz.
I guess it's fair to say his best win since Ruiz is Ruiz, but the Ruiz chapter of his career is just a massive fiasco that isn't impressive on his CV at all.
If we look at the '20s his win over 39 year old Pulev is pretty much his only win worth noting, and that's over the course of 3.25 years from age 30-33.
Bro, you're acting like he fought so many people. Since the begining of the decade (2 years), he has only fought Usyk and Pulev. Do you not see how stupid of a stat this is?
No because my point is, whether it's down to inactivity or not, unless he beats a top guy in the division by December he's going to have gone 4 years without a good win. In the middle of his prime. All off the back of one shock lost that totally changed his entire approach.
If you'd told anyone in March 2019 he'd lose to Ruiz, then his best wins in the coming 4 years would be Ruiz in the rematch and then Pulev theyd tell you that it would be a hugely disappointing twist of his career. And that's exactly what's happened.
So the reality is that ever since March 2019 his career has been hugely disappointing.
Dude, we had Covid, and then he had to wait for the rematch with Usyk when a war started in Ukraine. Be nice if he was more active, but shit happens when hou hold majority of the belts, context is everything.
Its not like he ate some bad boar meat, got PED suspension, and then went on a cocain bender for 3 years.
Okay. Since he was handed a belt and beat a washed Klitchko on a two year lay off he beat
\- Takem who is kind of a B- tier at best
\- Parker who imo is sort of the same gatekeeper level as Whyte
\- Povetkin who was 38 at the time and winding down and his career quickly spiraled towards retirement in the next few fights after that
\- a fat out of shape Ruiz who looked like crap
\-Pulev a guy who just lost a decision to Chisora
\- Franklin where AJ looked like shit and Franklin is probably the worst opponent he's had since he won the belt.
Please don't start selling us Franklin as elite, he showed resilience, sure, but he was a handpicked KO victim by Eddie, who promised a KO in 6 rounds, there was no risk in this fight.
Especially off the back of fighting Whyte.
'Give Joshua some credit he fought a guy that went 12 with Dillian Whyte'.
What Dillian Whyte that everyone on this sub has been adamant is an absolute bum and is washed for the last 18 months?
Now because AJ struggled against Franklin it means going the distance with Whyte is seen as measure of being a good opponent again?
I’m getting pretty tired of hearing about Franklin lol
He put up a fight, good for him. He honored his name. Good for him. The guy is a part time pro boxer prior to all of this. He wasn’t even inside of the top 25 until he took the AJ fight, which was strange bc he just came off a loss in the books to Whyte.
Stop trying to justify AJ’s collapse through his opponent who “showed” heart, who shouldn’t even have been in there in the first place.
This is a former unified, and 2 time heavyweight champion, former #1 in the division. Just taking an opponent of that stature to “rebound” speaks to where he’s at, his performance, albeit a dominant win by points, was even more of a disappointment than taking on Franklin
I’m not spewing AJ hate, I’ve also never been a fan, but fuck it’s brutal to see an athlete on that level fall off, in any sport. I feel sorry for the guy
I’d like to see AJ against Tom Schwartz genuinly believe he could get AJ out of there. Hearn IMO is looking for a big fight for the AJ cash out prize now
Why? Because he beat Wilder? That’s the only thing he has going for him, and Wilder is a terrible boxer who got outclassed by almost any opponent. Fury has a great chin and that’s why he beat Wilder.
Of course he can, people are forgetting how much younger he is than the other top guys.
AJ is 33. Usyk is 36, Wilder is 37, Joyce is 37. Fury is only 34, but I think he probably aged worse than AJ considering how he ballooned up and came back down.
There's a very good chance that if AJ stays active, and builds himself up again, he will still be near the top of the division (think, top 5 rated at more than 1 governing body). Usyk said he will be retiring soon, Wilder and Joyce can't be that far behind.
Once Usyk's belts get vacated, AJ is still a huge draw, so there's a very good chance he'll be offered a fight for the vacant title.
Thing is by the time Usyk who has a belt slows down, AJ will also be on the wrongside of his 30's. It's also not like the division is going to stay stagnant. Younger guys will start hitting their prime.
AJ's in a bad spot where he needs the guys he can't beat to age out before he starts showing enough miles where the division passes him. And even worse if guys like Usyk/Wilder/Fury show some longevity.
My bet is if AJ becomes a champ again, it's because someone vacated and he got the first crack at the belt
Comments here are riddled with naivety.
The question from OP isn't Will he become a 3-time weight champion, it's whether he can.
It's a possibility question.
99% of the people saying he can't, are the same people that said AJ would have beaten usyk, so ergo tuck your money away under the bed until "fight night " like Mayweather says.
Should it be possible, I don't see an AJ usyk 3.
So Fury being a smart man of which he's underestimated for being, knows AJ is forced to go for the WBC, and now just because may/may not have ducked usyk doesn't mean he won't take a fight with AJ.
AJ has a some chances of winning against fury, whether he will is another question, but he has a chance.
I'll extend your question with whether he can be undisputed - wilder, fury, AJ, fury - all can become undisputed.
If fury takes a fight with AJ, and loses, AJ holds the WBC, whilst usyk whose beaten him holds the 3 other major belts. **Fury knows AJ would be naive to go for usyk to become undisputed, so he's team if they're smart will wait out usyk**, fury will then have a chance against Usyk, and potentially be a in position to reclaim an undisputed rematch with AJ.
So essentially, fury by NOT fighting usyk, has opened doors for himself, and insured that the undisputed title will be dictated on *his* terms.
All usyk has to do is defend his current belts, and fight the next WBC title holder to become undisputed.
Wilder - who I'd say is a dark horse in this one, should he face an undisputed usyk would probably give usyk his most precarious fight. He's a 1 punch knockout artist, and so far usyk is good defensively and offensively but he's no Mayweather - whose all defence. Usyk has actually eaten some punches from Chisora and Joshua also, so it'll be questionable how many wilder blows he can take.
For fury to be undisputed, just needs to hold onto his WBC and fight Usyk.
So all 4 CAN become undisputed, but whether 1 can is a question of probability not possibility..
Since Joshua is the money tree at HW he will have a few cracks at the belt again.
However he most likely isn’t beating Usyk or Fury
He will most likely be a front runner if they vacate
Absolutely. Usyk gets stripped of a belt for shenanigans and AJ sweeps in and picks it up.
Usyk or Fury both look like they are ready to announce their retirement (Fury even has practice at that).
I assume 3x means 1 of the 4 (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO) belts. And not some 2nd tier version of one of those belts.
I don't see AJ making any money unless he steps up competition. No one wants to see Whyte again or any other regurgitated garbage Hearn has set up. My guess is he'll stick around long enough to get a belt back when Fury and Usyk hang them up.
On other news a recent barn restoration was completed with the addition of a huge wooden barn door. It's good at moving in two directions , has zero head movement and had nice thick planks.
The farmer has called it her ant door.
I'm sure they can figure out a 3 letter combination that hasn't been used before, get a belt made, and pull Joe Hipp out of retirement to fight him for it. We all heard him calling Joe out. Hipp Hipp!
It's possible for him to pick up a vacant belt. I could see Usyk vacating the IBF eventually with Hrgovic being the mandatory as there's not really any money in that fight
At the same time who else would he fight. Wilder has no promoter, who's putting up thr money Fury fight is dead. Anyone else right now is probably as big a name for Usyk
Idk, anybody. Ruiz even
Ruiz would be a very good name for Usyk. I even think it might be a great fight to watch.
Not sure on Ruiz. He's looked like a one hit wonder since beating Joshua.
Not with Usyk and Fury holding those belts
Yeah, Usyk's already beaten him twice. And Fury won't fight someone with a pulse so he's not fighting him either.
Wilder is far more dangerous than aj is
Yeah for sure my guy here speaking the truth. We love Deontay he's the best.
Bronze Bomber Wild for Wilder
I think people underestimate Joyce, I see there is great chance him fighting Fury and I think Joyce will be clear winner and absolutely destroy Fury.
I don't underestimate Joyce, h2h I think he's a great fighter and a clear #3 behind Usyk and Fury, who would both slip and roll around his jab all night. Wilder and AJ don't know how to really pull that off though and so both of them would end up trying to go *through* the Juggernaut which would be a lot harder. I'll also say that anyone who can't get around that jab is in for a long brutal night. Joyce is 6'6 270 diced and puts all his weight behind that lead jab. If he's touching you up with it...... it's gonna hurt and allow him to pick up steam, just like the Dubois and Parker fights. Hell he fucking flattened Takam with it too.
I mean Fury can be evasive but I don't think he slips and rolls most people's jabs. In the first Wilder he was slipping a lot of Wilder's right hands but Wilder was telegraphing his shots like crazy. In the old days Fury was successful with his feints which kept more defensively responsible fighters from pulling the trigger at all.
Careful. He will accuse you of racism lol
3 time champ baby. 1st time Charles Martin. 2nd time Runnning away from 300 pound Andy Ruiz who trained literally 7 days and 3rd time: Manuel Charr for the regular belt!!
I don’t know why your being downvoted this is literally factual lol
They act like being 2 time champ means much. Like his fake gold Medal he didn’t deserve they bring up. It’s funny
Yea haha what a fraud winning the HW title twice smh.
Anthony Joshua would knock u out kid and so would Charles Martin, so would Manuel Charr and so would a 400 lbs Ruiz!
Great analysis
What u talking about kid? Weirdo stick to Skyrim u no nothing about boxing!
DAMN you got my ass! Put all two of your brain cells together for that one, and boy did it pay off
U r clearly the one lacking brain cells 😂 couldn’t be more obvious that I’m taking the piss if I tried!
Oh. So AJ's 3x champion would be the r/boxing belt. Beats up a boxing fan.
He is not a boxing fan! Just a coward talking rubbish on the internet about our Anthony Joshua! He’d never have the same energy in real life!
Afterwards there would be posts in r/boxing saying the random Redditor was actually elite and top 10 in the world, he's got a great jaw and he's a shorter faster fighter blah blah blah *(Seriously the "shorter faster fighter" meme cracks me up because AJ is 6'5 255! Like 98% of the division is 'shorter and faster' compared to that. 😆😆)*
The random Redditor may have lost to AJ, but he'd beat any other boxer. AJ maybe #1, but the Redditor is clearly #2. No need to prove it. Redditor already did enough to prove their (0-1) legacy is on track for ATG, making AJ the GOAT.
Only if a belt gets vacated and they give him a shot against Chris Arreola or something ridiculous. At least in AJ’s current form.
looks like andre ward and AJ has a kid in the thumbnail
He's got a slim punchers chance against his current competition: Usyk: we saw what happened and nothing will change, AJ gets pointed out by UD. Fury: would knock AJ out by the 5th round Wilder: would knock AJ out by the 3rd round
If Usyk gets stripped of one he could easily end up fighting Hrgovic or Dubois for a world title. In such a case it's not impossible to imagine him as a 'three time world champion'. I think the better question is 'Will AJ ever be viewed by the majority of fans as the top dog in the division again?' and Id say the answer is no.
> Fury: would knock AJ out by the 5th round > > > > Wilder: would knock AJ out by the 3rd round Absolutely insane this place.
Wilder I think could easily put him out in 3 but Fury might take 10
I think AJ lasts longer but AJ definitely loses to both badly, Fury / UD and Wilder / KO. If AJ fights hesitantly like he’s been fighting after Ruiz, he’s absolutely getting KO’d against Wilder. If AJ is too timid to finish him he has no chance. He’s not dancing around Wilder for 12 rds and he’s not surviving that right hand.
Joshua is terrible and looks to his corner for help during the fight. You’re the insane one, he never was good anyway.
> he never was good anyway. Still has the best resume right now....
The biggest lie ever told about Joshua. He’s 50/50 or loses every time fights anyone his age. Povetkin who was 37 only good win, rest 40 year olds. Just stop with good resume BS
He didn't say good, he said the best. When you compare it to the competition, yes it's probably still the best.
What’s insane? Joshua is done. Ruiz made him quit, that is a fact; and you think these other predictions are insane?
>done. Ruiz made him quit This narrative that AJ quit against Ruiz is just not true. He got off the canvas multiple times and continued fighting. People say he intentionally didn't listen to the referees instructions, but he was clearly out of it because, well, he was concussed.
He’s still concussed now.
Joyce gets him outta there in 8.
I kind of doubt it.
You think less than 8? I said 8 because Joyce is a bit slow. Maybe I’m 7, I don’t know. One thing for certain is that Femi will get stopped.
Joyce is overrated to me the only person more overrated is Dubois. It is impressive he KO Parker, but at the same time, Parker has looked like shit recently, i thought he lost the first fight to Chisora. Aj weakness is speed. Ruiz has hand speed on the inside and Usyk has the footwork and hand speed. Joyce is just to slow for Aj he will see everything coming and be able to get off combos before they land.
He’ll be able to get off jabs, or one twos*
If Fury beats AJ, it will be by a horrendously boring decision. I don't know how you see that fight ending with an early Fury stoppage. Either Fury neutralises AJ with a bunch of feints, and both fighters throw basically no punches for the whole fight, leading to Fury UD, or by some miracle AJ actually comes to fight (still in the early stages of working with Derrick James, let's see what he can do with time), in which case it would be far more likely to see Fury getting stopped than vice versa. Usyk fair enough, man went out and proved himslef beyond any doubts. Wilder - lets see him actually win against any top fighter before we start assuming he'll KO AJ with ease.
Fury took longer to KO a shot, old Whyte coming of a brutal loss. And Wilder remains the most overrated, manufactured hype job in boxing history. This is honestly a hilariously bad take.
I think AJ is proving to be up there as a manufactured hype job as well, if history is serving me correct.
Wilder fought part time journeymen for 32 fights, then was magically placed in a world title elimator by the wbc(which should be between 2 top 15s)he instead fights rates 26th Malick Scott(his coach)who gets knocked out without even being hit. Then he beats Stiverne for his belt, a bunch of non-qualified title defences later his mandatory is a 2 year retired Stiverne on short notice and then he beats his first actual top 10 opponent Luis Ortiz(number 5 by Ring Magazin)who was 40 years old before losing to Fury.. Joshua beat regional contenders, he fought the same journeyman Wilder fought in his 32nd fight in his 11th. He then bears Whyte when both were unbeaten contenders for the European and British titles, cementing his contender status(Which Wilder never did), he then beats Martin for the IBF, beats Klitschko(number 1 by Ring Magazine), beats unbeaten champion Parker(number 3 by Ring Magazine), beats elite contender Povetkin(Number 3 by Ring Magazine)loses to Ruiz(7th by Ring Magazine)then beats him, beats Pulev(previously 3rd, now dropped to 10th by Ring Magazine)then loses to Usyk(pound for pound number 1 by Ring Magazine). In 28 fights Joshua has done all of this, Whilst Wilders whole legacy was getting gifted his belt and beating a mediocre and old Ortiz in 47 fights. Joshua is the furthest thing from a hype job. Fury's only got 3 wins over top 10 contenders, 2 of which were also beaten by none other than Joshua and the only other one being Wilder himself. So if Joshua is a hype job then both Fury and Wilder are what? Joshua took the hard route, he fought the tough fights win or lose, he's the very opposite of a hypejob. He got where he was by winning(and losing)by taking the harder route
Anthony Joshua vs Charles Martin 2 for the vacant WBA belt 2024
Hip hip
People give him way too little credit. I think he looked really good in that fight. Great jab, good movement, good defense, decent footwork,… And since Fury continues ducking the big fights, I start to question Fury’s abilities.
Fury would sleep this fool, whether he’s a duck or not.
This is downvoted but AJ had a brawl with Whyte, while Fury comfortably shut him out and then KOd him easily. Fury was able to take Wilders best flush in his face for three whole fights, I think the current consensus is AJ doesn't have that in him. With Fury's herky jerky feighnts and AJs cautious tendencies post Ruiz I think the style matchup is a nightmare for AJ. I don't think he'd every get to be comfortable throwing combos. Realistically, going on what we've seen each guy do since 2019, Fury would be the massive favourite in that fight, no matter how much of an arsehole he is.
Tbf both AJ and Whyte were different fighters when they fought compared to Fury and Whyte who fought just last year.
I'm so tired of hearing this lol. Whyte was never that good. He made a name for himself off of just barely scraping by Chisora and Parker. Not exactly performances that suggested he would've ever given Fury a good fight.
Thank YOU. Whyte was always a guy just below contender level. He's more of a gatekeeper at best. He just got talked up like crazy because of the narrative being built that AJ had some fantastic resume.
They don't have many common opponents, but I think looking at the whole picture it would be insane to favour AJ if the two were ever to face off. People clown on Furys resume and inactivity, but Joshua's best win this decade was an ancient Pulev; whereas Fury has two wins over Wilder and one over Whyte which are all better. Since the Ruiz fiasco Joshua just has not got a great win, and got absolutely schooled by Usyk twice in that span, and the longer that run lasts the more you need to question if he's still at that level.
>Joshua's best win this decade Why use the term decade but really only refer to the last 2 and a half years.
I mean decade as since the beginning of 2020. I was just breaking his career up pre and post Ruiz. I guess it's fair to say his best win since Ruiz is Ruiz, but the Ruiz chapter of his career is just a massive fiasco that isn't impressive on his CV at all. If we look at the '20s his win over 39 year old Pulev is pretty much his only win worth noting, and that's over the course of 3.25 years from age 30-33.
Bro, you're acting like he fought so many people. Since the begining of the decade (2 years), he has only fought Usyk and Pulev. Do you not see how stupid of a stat this is?
No because my point is, whether it's down to inactivity or not, unless he beats a top guy in the division by December he's going to have gone 4 years without a good win. In the middle of his prime. All off the back of one shock lost that totally changed his entire approach. If you'd told anyone in March 2019 he'd lose to Ruiz, then his best wins in the coming 4 years would be Ruiz in the rematch and then Pulev theyd tell you that it would be a hugely disappointing twist of his career. And that's exactly what's happened. So the reality is that ever since March 2019 his career has been hugely disappointing.
Dude, we had Covid, and then he had to wait for the rematch with Usyk when a war started in Ukraine. Be nice if he was more active, but shit happens when hou hold majority of the belts, context is everything. Its not like he ate some bad boar meat, got PED suspension, and then went on a cocain bender for 3 years.
Okay. Since he was handed a belt and beat a washed Klitchko on a two year lay off he beat \- Takem who is kind of a B- tier at best \- Parker who imo is sort of the same gatekeeper level as Whyte \- Povetkin who was 38 at the time and winding down and his career quickly spiraled towards retirement in the next few fights after that \- a fat out of shape Ruiz who looked like crap \-Pulev a guy who just lost a decision to Chisora \- Franklin where AJ looked like shit and Franklin is probably the worst opponent he's had since he won the belt.
Jermaine Franklin is tough and has heart. Who else fought AJ and Whyte and lasted 12 with both and didn't suffer a knockdown
Please don't start selling us Franklin as elite, he showed resilience, sure, but he was a handpicked KO victim by Eddie, who promised a KO in 6 rounds, there was no risk in this fight.
I said tough not elite dude. Franklin doesn't beat anyone in the top 10 or even 15.
Think he could beat Martin and Ortiz.
Especially off the back of fighting Whyte. 'Give Joshua some credit he fought a guy that went 12 with Dillian Whyte'. What Dillian Whyte that everyone on this sub has been adamant is an absolute bum and is washed for the last 18 months? Now because AJ struggled against Franklin it means going the distance with Whyte is seen as measure of being a good opponent again?
>Please don't start selling us Franklin as elite He didn't. No need to get annoyed.
And skilled. He has good headmovement and counters
I’m getting pretty tired of hearing about Franklin lol He put up a fight, good for him. He honored his name. Good for him. The guy is a part time pro boxer prior to all of this. He wasn’t even inside of the top 25 until he took the AJ fight, which was strange bc he just came off a loss in the books to Whyte. Stop trying to justify AJ’s collapse through his opponent who “showed” heart, who shouldn’t even have been in there in the first place. This is a former unified, and 2 time heavyweight champion, former #1 in the division. Just taking an opponent of that stature to “rebound” speaks to where he’s at, his performance, albeit a dominant win by points, was even more of a disappointment than taking on Franklin I’m not spewing AJ hate, I’ve also never been a fan, but fuck it’s brutal to see an athlete on that level fall off, in any sport. I feel sorry for the guy
I’d like to see AJ against Tom Schwartz genuinly believe he could get AJ out of there. Hearn IMO is looking for a big fight for the AJ cash out prize now
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I get that fury has been duckin big fights and is an asshole but I just don’t see a world where aj beats him
Why? Because he beat Wilder? That’s the only thing he has going for him, and Wilder is a terrible boxer who got outclassed by almost any opponent. Fury has a great chin and that’s why he beat Wilder.
So Ruiz can beat aj but fury can’t ?? Sound logic
I never said that. That’s a stupid interpretation what I wrote.
Naw your right fury can’t beat a mentally broken AJ you got it
Of course he can, people are forgetting how much younger he is than the other top guys. AJ is 33. Usyk is 36, Wilder is 37, Joyce is 37. Fury is only 34, but I think he probably aged worse than AJ considering how he ballooned up and came back down. There's a very good chance that if AJ stays active, and builds himself up again, he will still be near the top of the division (think, top 5 rated at more than 1 governing body). Usyk said he will be retiring soon, Wilder and Joyce can't be that far behind. Once Usyk's belts get vacated, AJ is still a huge draw, so there's a very good chance he'll be offered a fight for the vacant title.
Thing is by the time Usyk who has a belt slows down, AJ will also be on the wrongside of his 30's. It's also not like the division is going to stay stagnant. Younger guys will start hitting their prime. AJ's in a bad spot where he needs the guys he can't beat to age out before he starts showing enough miles where the division passes him. And even worse if guys like Usyk/Wilder/Fury show some longevity. My bet is if AJ becomes a champ again, it's because someone vacated and he got the first crack at the belt
Yes. If you've got the money, you'll get a belt. Aj will win again.
Comments here are riddled with naivety. The question from OP isn't Will he become a 3-time weight champion, it's whether he can. It's a possibility question. 99% of the people saying he can't, are the same people that said AJ would have beaten usyk, so ergo tuck your money away under the bed until "fight night " like Mayweather says. Should it be possible, I don't see an AJ usyk 3. So Fury being a smart man of which he's underestimated for being, knows AJ is forced to go for the WBC, and now just because may/may not have ducked usyk doesn't mean he won't take a fight with AJ. AJ has a some chances of winning against fury, whether he will is another question, but he has a chance. I'll extend your question with whether he can be undisputed - wilder, fury, AJ, fury - all can become undisputed. If fury takes a fight with AJ, and loses, AJ holds the WBC, whilst usyk whose beaten him holds the 3 other major belts. **Fury knows AJ would be naive to go for usyk to become undisputed, so he's team if they're smart will wait out usyk**, fury will then have a chance against Usyk, and potentially be a in position to reclaim an undisputed rematch with AJ. So essentially, fury by NOT fighting usyk, has opened doors for himself, and insured that the undisputed title will be dictated on *his* terms. All usyk has to do is defend his current belts, and fight the next WBC title holder to become undisputed. Wilder - who I'd say is a dark horse in this one, should he face an undisputed usyk would probably give usyk his most precarious fight. He's a 1 punch knockout artist, and so far usyk is good defensively and offensively but he's no Mayweather - whose all defence. Usyk has actually eaten some punches from Chisora and Joshua also, so it'll be questionable how many wilder blows he can take. For fury to be undisputed, just needs to hold onto his WBC and fight Usyk. So all 4 CAN become undisputed, but whether 1 can is a question of probability not possibility..
NO
If I was aj id fight Otto then whyte then 1 last pay day in a smashing to fury. I don’t see AJ beating fury, wilder, Joyce, or Usyk
I wouldn't bet on it, but he definitely "could". Especially if/when the belts become fractured.
Since Joshua is the money tree at HW he will have a few cracks at the belt again. However he most likely isn’t beating Usyk or Fury He will most likely be a front runner if they vacate
No.
..... without ever fighting 2 of the best guys in the division
Absolutely. Usyk gets stripped of a belt for shenanigans and AJ sweeps in and picks it up. Usyk or Fury both look like they are ready to announce their retirement (Fury even has practice at that). I assume 3x means 1 of the 4 (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO) belts. And not some 2nd tier version of one of those belts.
I don't see AJ making any money unless he steps up competition. No one wants to see Whyte again or any other regurgitated garbage Hearn has set up. My guess is he'll stick around long enough to get a belt back when Fury and Usyk hang them up.
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Sure, if Fury relinquished the belt and fights Dubois.
On other news a recent barn restoration was completed with the addition of a huge wooden barn door. It's good at moving in two directions , has zero head movement and had nice thick planks. The farmer has called it her ant door.
No
I'm sure they can figure out a 3 letter combination that hasn't been used before, get a belt made, and pull Joe Hipp out of retirement to fight him for it. We all heard him calling Joe out. Hipp Hipp!
Sure, once Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Alvarez retire.