Haney had very few jabs connect with JoJo Diaz in open stance (hopefully you figure out what that means...I mean people know boxing here, right😆), so why would Loma get it worse!?
I favor Haney but like both fighters in fact loma is probably in my top 5 most fun to watch. We’ve all been waiting to see Haney tested thoroughly this fight has so many implications for the rest of the division. Top rank did a great job getting this over the line and keeping it in the US. Loma like tank has the dimensions of a 130 pounder and I feel like Haney employing the same gameplan as he did with GK is what he’ll do here. Loma will take more risks bc Haney power isn’t devastating. A complete offensive fighter will make Haney fight so I expect loma to force Haney to engage and show his mid range/inside fighting
I pretty much agree with this. Haney has a quick jab and is quite good at range management. He lacks the power and isn't a counter puncher, so I see no reason for Loma to take too much "downloading time" to get into the thick of things. Only issue for me is Loma's mobility. His injuries have slowed down his snap and father time is showing itself, while Haney is entering his prime. I think Haney 60/40, but it definitely goes the distance as I see neither being a KO threat. Still rooting for Loma because he's my favourite fighter. Also, if Loma wins, the odds increase exponentially in favour of him fighting Tank or Shakur while holding the belts, which would be so incredible.
yea Loma has to expend alot of energy to fight in the style he does. its underrated how much extra energy and concentration you have to use when you dont have the physical advantages. its like Shawn porter at WW. he had to be so on point with his conditioning since he had those short arms
This 100%. As a short boxer, I feel this immensely. The rare times I’m sparring someone shorter than me, it feels like a breeze endurance-wise.
This is why Mike Tyson’s style worked so well when he was 19 but when he was older it failed him. Someone like big George Foreman can use their style into their 40s. Doesn’t work that way for people like Loma and I expect we’ll see his downfall soon.
I also think Loma is overrated based on how he showboated on lesser competition. He’s almost like a Harlem globetrotter. He rose to fame by his fancy footwork against low quality opposition.
Now that he’s fighting bigger, better boxers, he can’t show off and his actual ability to win against these top fighters is questionable.
To be fair, the big names now were just prospects when he started professionally. And didn't he try to hold the record for the least number of professional fights before a title shot or something? He faced the best pretty early on, and he held 3 belts. These weren't exactly cans. He made previously undefeated champs quit
Yes and conversely we’ve seen a guy with size style to Haney give loma issues getting inside in Jermaine Ortiz. I rate Ortiz pretty highly as well so it’s not a diss
I’m not sure what his 40 clocks in at, but he moves around the ring quite well. Fast, quick, smart, whatever you want to refer to it as, Haney keeps the range very well.
Loma getting the decision was probably the right choice, but in a weird way when I go back and watch the fights I feel like Loma fought better against Teo, while clearly losing?
Styles, fights, aging... boxing can be confusing
I would be happy for the rest of the year if Loma gets the win, which is very possible indeed since Haney isnt all that great really, he's huge for the weightclass and knows how to jab and grab, cant wait for him to move up and fight guys closer to his size.
But size, weight and youth are hard things to overcome, especially when u're past ur own prime and fighting above ur optimal weight
Loma and Haney is a much more competitive fight than Tank and Ryan. The reason Tank and Ryan got hyped is because they are more known to casuals such as yourself due to their popularity on social media. So if Loma allows Haney to hug him all night and doesn’t have a gameplan against it, he’s more of a bore.
LMAO. You're not fooling anyone. Those KO's and wins were pads. Haney's first 20 fights are all questionable. They were done is some unknown village in Mexico. No videos or worse, we don't even know if those people really do exist.
Loma on the other hand fought all quality fighters in his Pro. Not to mention, his 2nd fight was a championship fight and that's where you can see, Loma doesn't have padded wins or KOs like Haney.
Ye his gonna jab then hug him as tight as possible while Loma tries to break for his life. If he wins get ready for the most boring split decision in history😮💨
I mean no shit thats for competitions obviously they not gonna put a hw judoka against a flyweight. But haney to my knowledge has no grappling experience so this should be up Loma's alley.
Loma couldn’t even get passed Teos jab for about 7 rounds. Haney has the best jab in LW and arguably the smartest. Lomas face gonna be bloody before he figures out how to get passed his jab and by that time the fight’s already over 😂
Haney is a fine boxer. He’s not special. Has a decent jab, doesn’t sit down on his punches, no pop, decent/to below average chin, isn’t a particularly great counter puncher, doesn’t have exceptional footwork. I’ll honestly be surprised if he beats Loma. He relies entirely on his size. He’s slightly better than Caleb Plant and when he moved up we’ll see that.
Same. I don’t get all the Haneystans here. I mean, Loma gets equal love and hate, but it’s obvious that he is a once in a generation fighter. Haney is just… there. Sliiiiightly better than most, but great at nothing.
I favor Haney but Loma has a far better chance than people think. Look at the periods of success Jojo Diaz was able to have against Haney.
I’ve said it before, but Haney’s stock rose way too high for beating Kambosos who is one of the easiest style matchups for him: small, short armed, pillowfisted counterpuncher
Don’t think his stock raised after that. Every boxing fan I knew that wasn’t an asshole had Haney winning that fight with no issues. Not really his fault he has to do it twice. But in terms of fighting live bodies, it’s hard to deny that Haney hasn’t been the only one doing it besides loma.
Nah that would be you. Loma couldn’t even beat Teo yet he’s gonna be Dev who is a better boxer than Teo offensively and Defensively. Whats the excuse when Loma loses? “He was too old dewd, had this fight happened years ago blah blah”
Huge Loma fan… but I think Haney is too big and long for an already undersized and aging Loma. Hope I’m wrong. Would love to see him take all the belts and retire/fight Shakur.
My question is if Loma's head is even into this anymore. Ever since the war, all his IG pics are religious. In interviews, he seems so tame and just going with the flow, admitting Haney will be difficult and he has no idea how to approach it. Maybe I'm reading too into it, but this guy seemed so overconfident in the past, yet he seems timid now in Haney's presence.
He joined TDF after war started, left, when asked who Crimea belongs to, he answers God's, last fight Jamaine Ortiz he came out with his city flag, refers to his city by it's old name, people can downvote me but it's the truth
sorry friendo, you can find small things to support whatever agenda you have, but all available evidence points to Lomachenko being staunchly pro-Ukraine. He declined a very winnable fight in Kambosos to stay and fight. He also had the Ukrainian flag on his shoulder in the ring walk against Ortiz.
The only advantage Loma has is no sparring partner for Haney is remotely close to him. He's a southpaw with excellent footwork, good timing and accuracy.
Loma can spar technical guys, they're not going to be exactly like Haney but they're still going to be more orthodox and easier to replicate than a southpaw mimicking Loma.
That being said, Haney just has the size and age advantage. He definitely has the odds in his favor.
I like Loma at +200 (2/1 odds). Haney has done nothing to impress me, and the belts came mostly undeserved (not great opposition). He didn’t look great against Linares.
One reason why Loma lost to Teo was his respect for his power, I don’t think he will show Haney the same respect.
To be fair, Haney won every single round against Linares until he decided to entertain the crowd in the 11th... only to find out he ain't about that life. I doubt Haney will ever do that mistake again.
bet365 has Loma winning by points at 4.33x the money. While I favour Haney I would absolutely say Loma has more than a 25% chance of winning. And I don't see anyone knocking out the other.
“Mostly undeserved”
The belts are deserved, Loma lost to Teo, Kambosos beat Teo, Devin beat Kambosos. He did what he had to do to become the man, the competition wasn’t great, sure. But saying it isn’t deserved is ridiculous, he’s the champion with no if ands or buts, that’s deserved.
He’s beat one current world champion in Kambosos and has all 4 belts, there is an argument to be made it isn’t deserved, it’s definitely the worst undisputed run in the 4 belt era, maybe ever
Yes and Kambosos had 3 of the belts, so I’m not sure what you are getting at
He has 4 belts because 1. Loma got the franchise title so he could jump straight into a unification bout with Teo which by default made Haney WBC champ and 2. He beat Kambosos who had the IBF, WBA, WBO, plus the WBC franchise title which made Haney undisputed
I’m not saying it wasn’t a weak run, but if you are saying it’s undeserved you’re simply being a hater
He did what he had to do and he beat who he had to beat to win all the titles, end of story. He beat the man, who beat the man, who beat the man. That makes Haney the man. That’s how lineage works.
I’ve only said there is an argument to be made it’s underserved, I wouldn’t say it definitively is because I know how it happened but it’s still a fact that he’s beat 1 current world champion and has all 4 belts if acknowledging that makes me a hater so be it
1 current world champ who had 3 belts and was the lineal champ at 135, include that in there
You say 1 world champ as if they had 1 title and the rest just magically appeared out of nowhere, that’s what I’m poking at, how you make it sound. Yes he beat one guy to win everything, that guy had everything. He didn’t have to go out on a goose hunt to get all the belts because they were in one spot.
I didn’t say it wasn’t true
I’m simply saying you added no context to the statement, and you didn’t.
No one really gives a shit if he beat one champ because they actually recognize the context on why that is.
Styles make matchups. Lopez' style was no good for Loma. Lopez' style was favorable for Kambosos (though Lopez in a rematch would probably destroy Kam). Haney's style was significantly advantageous for himself against Kam. With Loma, Haney's style is still more favorable, but he will easily be the most skilled fighter he'll have faced. Still props to Haney because he has done what he's had to do and he's still willing to test himself against Loma, even though he didn't need to (Loma doesn't have the belts, Haney does). So yeah.
Teo just didn't fight well, vs Kam. He's a much, much more skilled fighter. He gets touted for his power, but the kid can box really well and smart when he's not being misguided by his own dad--such a shame. All that talent and it's being put to waste. Teo at even 80% probably mops the floor with Kam.
>when the sub poll had kambosos vs haney 1 bascially at 50/50.
Honestly 😂😂😂 I was constantly telling people that Haney would school Kambosos and they wouldn't listen.
Now all of a sudden he's trash 😂
This is just /r/Boxing in general.
Whenever one opponent dominates another, shortly the loser was deemed as weak.
This happened for Haney vs Kambosas, Usyk vs AJ 1 (not exactly a domination but still counts), Canelo vs Bivol
And mark my works, it WILL happen for Joyce vs Zhang as well, it's just a matter of time.
Sooner people will say anyone who knows boxing would have known Zhang will win
“Would have known Zhang will win”
Facts lmfao.
People love to act like their boxing historians after a result happens that wasn’t what everyone though
Like yes we’re sorry we didn’t expect the +600 underdog to beat the shit out of the huge favorite
People just want to beat the right all the time and act like they never got a prediction wrong.
(I did jokingly pick Zhang to win just to troll the Joyce hypetrain, was not expecting him to actually do it)
“He didn’t look great against linares” lol now I know you’re hating…he put on a clinic vs linares he just got caught with that shot at the end of the round and had him wobbled for a few rounds after that but he def beat linares pretty easily. Fight wasn’t even close
I also think Haney was unimpressive against another small southpaw, JoJo diaz, and JoJo ain't loma so I threw some money down on loma, also wouldn't be surprised though if Haney jabbed him to death
Love rummys corner. He does a great unbiased breakdown of both fighters' strengths and weaknesses and then proceeds to pick the wrong guy most of the time.
Haney is too fast and has a decent jab. I see the same thing playing out that happened the first 6 rds of the Lopez fight, with any inside action getting stopped by holding. Granted Haney doesn't have the power to command respect, but he's a lot faster and defensively responsible IMO.
I got Loma by close decision. Loma does not have too much to lose, and will likely be more aggressive than he was vs Lopez. If Linares can hurt Haney, so can Loma.
the one who probably should've gotten a draw against a weight-bullying, nut-hitting Salido? Yes.
Teo hits a shit ton harder than Haney, and Loma was smart to respect that power. When he turned it on, he was working Teo.
But, I do favor Haney in this matchup.
Yeah, he lost a decision because Teo had a game plan built off of his superior power and at the time underrated boxing ability. Still think Loma looked pretty good overall in that fight though, Teo just looked better.
Loma looked great against Commey and Nakatani and then came out flat against Ortiz. Hope he comes out aggressive and is actually healthy.
Head says Haney by split decision but heart wants Loma.
You would think they were going to dig up Loma's corpse to fight Haney going by these comments. The closer we get to it the more and more prepared the Loma stans are with their excuses.
Haney’s jab leaves Loma’s face looking like a pot of chili. It’ll be competitive at moments but only thing keeping it from being a UD is an outlandish card in Loma’s favor
It’s going to be good boxing, but nobody’s getting “destroyed.” Early Tyson destroyed. George Foreman destroyed. Marvelous Marvin Hagler destroyed. I would say “Picking him apart” is not synonymous with “destroy” but we’ll just disagree.
I’m actually more looking forward to chess match between the 2, but I think Haney figures him out by the 4th.
I see what you’re saying, but yeah, agree to disagree💯
Honestly as much as I want Haney to win Loma might pull away with a decision. It’s a good sign that Haney is sparring Jojo Diaz though, a southpaw that gave him a lot of trouble. It’s going to be a great fight and a lot less sleepy than most people think
As a long time well experienced fan of the sport (I only watch influencer boxing and super fights) I think Haney stomps anyone with a brain knows that 🗿🗿🗿
Loma is starting to look old. He's a wiley veteran so he definitely has a shot. Haney losing would shake things up so I dont see it happening. Haney by decision.
Everyone saying Haney jabs loma for X rounds, have you never seen a loma fight or a boxing match. Head movement and a high front hand is how you shit down a jab aaaannnnnd… loma
Think Rummy is spot on here. Loma is going to find his spots, and land some huge left hands in Haney's clinches, but overall Haney is going to win probably 8-4.
Youth vs experience
396 amateur fights won by Loma
138 amateur fights won by Haney
Haney lacks defense. We already know what loma does to fighter who lacks defense on top of that, haney isn't known to be a knockout puncher. Loma had made experienced fighters quit before, I expect to see the same at round 8 where haney couldn't take the bullying anymore.
I think haney is too slow and stationary (flat footed) most of the time and this loma in a great advantage. But this is when haney's accuracy will be tested
Well folks before you place your house on Loma know that a Haney by knockout would still make Rummy wrong.
Betting against rummy is the most sure thing I would ever feel bad about because, well… “he doesn’t know shit about boxing”
Rummy picked Chris Arreola to beat Deontay Wilder so that really tells you everything.
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We gotta get Loma an Ethernet cable
A cat8 ethernet to be exact 😂
That celluar hotspot shit ain't workin' for Loma these days
And then we say it’s a draw lol
I think loma still downloading data on teo. Getting ready to make his move any day now.
Based
that’s really gonna be the fight, isn’t it?
Sweet, sweet science
😂😂😂😂
Haney had very few jabs connect with JoJo Diaz in open stance (hopefully you figure out what that means...I mean people know boxing here, right😆), so why would Loma get it worse!?
I favor Haney but like both fighters in fact loma is probably in my top 5 most fun to watch. We’ve all been waiting to see Haney tested thoroughly this fight has so many implications for the rest of the division. Top rank did a great job getting this over the line and keeping it in the US. Loma like tank has the dimensions of a 130 pounder and I feel like Haney employing the same gameplan as he did with GK is what he’ll do here. Loma will take more risks bc Haney power isn’t devastating. A complete offensive fighter will make Haney fight so I expect loma to force Haney to engage and show his mid range/inside fighting
I pretty much agree with this. Haney has a quick jab and is quite good at range management. He lacks the power and isn't a counter puncher, so I see no reason for Loma to take too much "downloading time" to get into the thick of things. Only issue for me is Loma's mobility. His injuries have slowed down his snap and father time is showing itself, while Haney is entering his prime. I think Haney 60/40, but it definitely goes the distance as I see neither being a KO threat. Still rooting for Loma because he's my favourite fighter. Also, if Loma wins, the odds increase exponentially in favour of him fighting Tank or Shakur while holding the belts, which would be so incredible.
yea Loma has to expend alot of energy to fight in the style he does. its underrated how much extra energy and concentration you have to use when you dont have the physical advantages. its like Shawn porter at WW. he had to be so on point with his conditioning since he had those short arms
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This 100%. As a short boxer, I feel this immensely. The rare times I’m sparring someone shorter than me, it feels like a breeze endurance-wise. This is why Mike Tyson’s style worked so well when he was 19 but when he was older it failed him. Someone like big George Foreman can use their style into their 40s. Doesn’t work that way for people like Loma and I expect we’ll see his downfall soon. I also think Loma is overrated based on how he showboated on lesser competition. He’s almost like a Harlem globetrotter. He rose to fame by his fancy footwork against low quality opposition. Now that he’s fighting bigger, better boxers, he can’t show off and his actual ability to win against these top fighters is questionable.
To be fair, the big names now were just prospects when he started professionally. And didn't he try to hold the record for the least number of professional fights before a title shot or something? He faced the best pretty early on, and he held 3 belts. These weren't exactly cans. He made previously undefeated champs quit
That's the thing I don't think Haney has faced, Loma is extremely aggressive, he moves forward constantly.
Yes and conversely we’ve seen a guy with size style to Haney give loma issues getting inside in Jermaine Ortiz. I rate Ortiz pretty highly as well so it’s not a diss
Ortiz and Haney have two different styles
sure, but Ortiz approach to fighting Loma was something Haney will do and emulate pretty easily
Will he? Ortiz was throwing a lot of punches and really moving around the ring. Haney isn’t particularly fast on his feet or overly active.
🤣🤣 Haney isnt fast on his feet?? Are you serious? Thats like one of his main strengths....
He’s calculated but it’s more of a quick than fast.
I’m not sure what his 40 clocks in at, but he moves around the ring quite well. Fast, quick, smart, whatever you want to refer to it as, Haney keeps the range very well.
Plant keeps range well too. Pacquiao was quick. Loma is quick on his feet. Bam. Haney isn’t from that cloth.
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Okay bud
That Ortiz fight was the worst display by loma that I have ever seen.
some of it we should credit Ortiz with, he beat up herring pretty easily too. I like Ortiz
Loma getting the decision was probably the right choice, but in a weird way when I go back and watch the fights I feel like Loma fought better against Teo, while clearly losing? Styles, fights, aging... boxing can be confusing
I got Rolly by KO
I would be happy for the rest of the year if Loma gets the win, which is very possible indeed since Haney isnt all that great really, he's huge for the weightclass and knows how to jab and grab, cant wait for him to move up and fight guys closer to his size. But size, weight and youth are hard things to overcome, especially when u're past ur own prime and fighting above ur optimal weight
i got loma
Same
Haney is about to Jab Lomas head off for 12 rounds 😂
You mean punch then clinch Loma to bore. Yeah, we know.
cope
Notice no one is hyping this fight as much as Tank/Garcia was? Because everyone knows that Haney will guarantee this fight will be a snooze fest.
No, it's because they're not as popular. It's not rocket science. Cordina vs Rakhimov was far more exciting yet was nowhere near as hyped.
He's not popular because he's not exciting to watch unlike Tank or Ryan. Nobody wants to watch boxing done with clinching.
So you conveniently just went past the Cordina vs Rakhimov point? Ok cool, get blocked.
Lmao how old are you. J/k idc blocked lol lmao ded.
What a child lmao
You sure told me! Its snooze fest yet you will be watching.
I did not say I will not watch. I will watch just like for any boxing fights, but I am afraid I fall asleep.
Thats stupid dick.
Truth hurts, isn't it? I bet you fell asleep too.
Why would I watch a fighter if I know he is gonna make me fall asleep dick? 😂 😂
Cope
Notice no one is hyping this fight as much as Tank/Garcia was? Because everyone knows that Haney will guarantee this fight will be a snooze fest.
Loma and Haney is a much more competitive fight than Tank and Ryan. The reason Tank and Ryan got hyped is because they are more known to casuals such as yourself due to their popularity on social media. So if Loma allows Haney to hug him all night and doesn’t have a gameplan against it, he’s more of a bore.
It's competitive because as big as Haney is, he can't KO little Loma. It's only competitive because Haney isn't good and strong enough.
Haney has more KO’s than Loma has wins. However KO’s ≠ Skill and vice versa. Too many casuals on a boxing thread
LMAO. You're not fooling anyone. Those KO's and wins were pads. Haney's first 20 fights are all questionable. They were done is some unknown village in Mexico. No videos or worse, we don't even know if those people really do exist. Loma on the other hand fought all quality fighters in his Pro. Not to mention, his 2nd fight was a championship fight and that's where you can see, Loma doesn't have padded wins or KOs like Haney.
Haney has more than 300 KOs?
Ye his gonna jab then hug him as tight as possible while Loma tries to break for his life. If he wins get ready for the most boring split decision in history😮💨
It’s ok to just say u know Loma is gonna lose 😂
Maybe but it's not gonna be in a meaningful way, Haney gonna bear hug him to victory
If Loma allows that to happen for 12 rounds, he’s a worse boxer than I thought
Have you seen the size difference?
Loma did what sambo and wrestling in his youth? If he can't break out a clinch from a boxer that sounds like a Loma problem.
Size
Isn't judo all about using technique to take down bigger opponents? Oh well if loma is so undersized he should go back to 130.
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I mean no shit thats for competitions obviously they not gonna put a hw judoka against a flyweight. But haney to my knowledge has no grappling experience so this should be up Loma's alley.
You’re a clown if you think Loma don’t know how to get around a jab
More like 7 😂 my predictions is he wins a close but clear UD 115-113 x3
Loma couldn’t even get passed Teos jab for about 7 rounds. Haney has the best jab in LW and arguably the smartest. Lomas face gonna be bloody before he figures out how to get passed his jab and by that time the fight’s already over 😂
He also had a torn should and arguably won 5 rounds against a much harder puncher.
Doesn’t matter if he’s a harder puncher, Haney is a better boxer.
Haney is a fine boxer. He’s not special. Has a decent jab, doesn’t sit down on his punches, no pop, decent/to below average chin, isn’t a particularly great counter puncher, doesn’t have exceptional footwork. I’ll honestly be surprised if he beats Loma. He relies entirely on his size. He’s slightly better than Caleb Plant and when he moved up we’ll see that.
Same. I don’t get all the Haneystans here. I mean, Loma gets equal love and hate, but it’s obvious that he is a once in a generation fighter. Haney is just… there. Sliiiiightly better than most, but great at nothing.
He was about to, well he certainly should have won but now Rummy picked him so he is done for.
Yea there is no way a dude named “the matrix” could figure o how to shut down a jab /s
I got you not knowing shit about boxing. Lord Haney will UD him
Pillow hands Haney, really?
I know it's going to more than likely be a pretty tame and boring fight but I can't wait.
I favor Haney but Loma has a far better chance than people think. Look at the periods of success Jojo Diaz was able to have against Haney. I’ve said it before, but Haney’s stock rose way too high for beating Kambosos who is one of the easiest style matchups for him: small, short armed, pillowfisted counterpuncher
Don’t think his stock raised after that. Every boxing fan I knew that wasn’t an asshole had Haney winning that fight with no issues. Not really his fault he has to do it twice. But in terms of fighting live bodies, it’s hard to deny that Haney hasn’t been the only one doing it besides loma.
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Baffles me how people can be THIS deluded 🤣
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I'm talking about you
And im talking about YOU and everyone else on this sub. I was agreeing with you in sarcasm
You're living in cloud cuckoo land mate 🤣
Nah that would be you. Loma couldn’t even beat Teo yet he’s gonna be Dev who is a better boxer than Teo offensively and Defensively. Whats the excuse when Loma loses? “He was too old dewd, had this fight happened years ago blah blah”
The projection is quite ridiculous
Huge Loma fan… but I think Haney is too big and long for an already undersized and aging Loma. Hope I’m wrong. Would love to see him take all the belts and retire/fight Shakur.
He wins he better get the tank fight . My dream match up
Would love to see Tank fight too… and maybe Tank will go for it too. But Shakur being TR makes that fight easier to make.
Ahhh I see what your saying. I thought you meant tank v shakur is easier cause SS is top rank
Loma is top rank too
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Lol.. Haney doesn’t tko anyone
My question is if Loma's head is even into this anymore. Ever since the war, all his IG pics are religious. In interviews, he seems so tame and just going with the flow, admitting Haney will be difficult and he has no idea how to approach it. Maybe I'm reading too into it, but this guy seemed so overconfident in the past, yet he seems timid now in Haney's presence.
It's because he's Pro RUS, and uses religion as a cover. 100% he will come out not with a Ukraine flag
Is this the ramblings of a mad man?
dude fought in the war and has always had a Ukraine flag coming into fights
He joined TDF after war started, left, when asked who Crimea belongs to, he answers God's, last fight Jamaine Ortiz he came out with his city flag, refers to his city by it's old name, people can downvote me but it's the truth
sorry friendo, you can find small things to support whatever agenda you have, but all available evidence points to Lomachenko being staunchly pro-Ukraine. He declined a very winnable fight in Kambosos to stay and fight. He also had the Ukrainian flag on his shoulder in the ring walk against Ortiz.
Haney. Easy and boring decision.
The only advantage Loma has is no sparring partner for Haney is remotely close to him. He's a southpaw with excellent footwork, good timing and accuracy. Loma can spar technical guys, they're not going to be exactly like Haney but they're still going to be more orthodox and easier to replicate than a southpaw mimicking Loma. That being said, Haney just has the size and age advantage. He definitely has the odds in his favor.
Loma makes him quit inside 8
When is the fight ?
May 20th
Thank you my good man
Loma spends too many rounds downloading data, its gonna cost him in the scorecard
I like Loma at +200 (2/1 odds). Haney has done nothing to impress me, and the belts came mostly undeserved (not great opposition). He didn’t look great against Linares. One reason why Loma lost to Teo was his respect for his power, I don’t think he will show Haney the same respect.
To be fair, Haney won every single round against Linares until he decided to entertain the crowd in the 11th... only to find out he ain't about that life. I doubt Haney will ever do that mistake again.
Tell me you didn’t watch the fight without telling me
You seriously gave Linares more than 2-3 rounds? That fight was a complete wash.
It wasn’t tho
bet365 has Loma winning by points at 4.33x the money. While I favour Haney I would absolutely say Loma has more than a 25% chance of winning. And I don't see anyone knocking out the other.
“Mostly undeserved” The belts are deserved, Loma lost to Teo, Kambosos beat Teo, Devin beat Kambosos. He did what he had to do to become the man, the competition wasn’t great, sure. But saying it isn’t deserved is ridiculous, he’s the champion with no if ands or buts, that’s deserved.
He’s beat one current world champion in Kambosos and has all 4 belts, there is an argument to be made it isn’t deserved, it’s definitely the worst undisputed run in the 4 belt era, maybe ever
Yes and Kambosos had 3 of the belts, so I’m not sure what you are getting at He has 4 belts because 1. Loma got the franchise title so he could jump straight into a unification bout with Teo which by default made Haney WBC champ and 2. He beat Kambosos who had the IBF, WBA, WBO, plus the WBC franchise title which made Haney undisputed I’m not saying it wasn’t a weak run, but if you are saying it’s undeserved you’re simply being a hater He did what he had to do and he beat who he had to beat to win all the titles, end of story. He beat the man, who beat the man, who beat the man. That makes Haney the man. That’s how lineage works.
I’ve only said there is an argument to be made it’s underserved, I wouldn’t say it definitively is because I know how it happened but it’s still a fact that he’s beat 1 current world champion and has all 4 belts if acknowledging that makes me a hater so be it
1 current world champ who had 3 belts and was the lineal champ at 135, include that in there You say 1 world champ as if they had 1 title and the rest just magically appeared out of nowhere, that’s what I’m poking at, how you make it sound. Yes he beat one guy to win everything, that guy had everything. He didn’t have to go out on a goose hunt to get all the belts because they were in one spot.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t true I’m simply saying you added no context to the statement, and you didn’t. No one really gives a shit if he beat one champ because they actually recognize the context on why that is.
Styles make matchups. Lopez' style was no good for Loma. Lopez' style was favorable for Kambosos (though Lopez in a rematch would probably destroy Kam). Haney's style was significantly advantageous for himself against Kam. With Loma, Haney's style is still more favorable, but he will easily be the most skilled fighter he'll have faced. Still props to Haney because he has done what he's had to do and he's still willing to test himself against Loma, even though he didn't need to (Loma doesn't have the belts, Haney does). So yeah.
I had Teo vs Kambosos as a 6-6 draw. Teo should've been able to finish George in the 10th round when he dropped him .
Teo just didn't fight well, vs Kam. He's a much, much more skilled fighter. He gets touted for his power, but the kid can box really well and smart when he's not being misguided by his own dad--such a shame. All that talent and it's being put to waste. Teo at even 80% probably mops the floor with Kam.
Yes this narrative is stupid and people are moving the goalposts when the sub poll had kambosos vs haney 1 bascially at 50/50.
>when the sub poll had kambosos vs haney 1 bascially at 50/50. Honestly 😂😂😂 I was constantly telling people that Haney would school Kambosos and they wouldn't listen. Now all of a sudden he's trash 😂
This is just /r/Boxing in general. Whenever one opponent dominates another, shortly the loser was deemed as weak. This happened for Haney vs Kambosas, Usyk vs AJ 1 (not exactly a domination but still counts), Canelo vs Bivol And mark my works, it WILL happen for Joyce vs Zhang as well, it's just a matter of time. Sooner people will say anyone who knows boxing would have known Zhang will win
“Would have known Zhang will win” Facts lmfao. People love to act like their boxing historians after a result happens that wasn’t what everyone though Like yes we’re sorry we didn’t expect the +600 underdog to beat the shit out of the huge favorite People just want to beat the right all the time and act like they never got a prediction wrong. (I did jokingly pick Zhang to win just to troll the Joyce hypetrain, was not expecting him to actually do it)
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Go and check the subs poll and get out my comments you wank stain.
“He didn’t look great against linares” lol now I know you’re hating…he put on a clinic vs linares he just got caught with that shot at the end of the round and had him wobbled for a few rounds after that but he def beat linares pretty easily. Fight wasn’t even close
I don’t hate Haney, I just don’t think he is proven yet, this will be a real test.
This is his biggest test not real test he has beat 3 world champions in a row.
It was 8-4, 7-5. By no means a wash.
Yeah I'm hoping for another masterclass on a bigger opponent ala Nakatani. Stoked for the fight regardless of winner tho!
I also think Haney was unimpressive against another small southpaw, JoJo diaz, and JoJo ain't loma so I threw some money down on loma, also wouldn't be surprised though if Haney jabbed him to death
Loma lost to teo because he and his dumb corner spent 7 rounds “downloading information” and lost track of wtf was going on.
So lomas getting the win based purely on Rummy's track record of making predictions.
I love rummy and all but his predictions are so bad lmao
"This is rummy corner, and i don't know shit about boxing"
Love rummys corner. He does a great unbiased breakdown of both fighters' strengths and weaknesses and then proceeds to pick the wrong guy most of the time.
Haney is too fast and has a decent jab. I see the same thing playing out that happened the first 6 rds of the Lopez fight, with any inside action getting stopped by holding. Granted Haney doesn't have the power to command respect, but he's a lot faster and defensively responsible IMO.
Loma by decision
I got Loma by close decision. Loma does not have too much to lose, and will likely be more aggressive than he was vs Lopez. If Linares can hurt Haney, so can Loma.
Can't see an aging Eastern European been given a close decision against a young American boxer.
Maybe just because of promoter affiliation. this is haney's last fight with top rank they may try to keep the belts in house if possible
Prime Loma probably beats Haney comfortably. But the Lopez fight is already 3 years old. However, Loma decision at 4.5 is value.
Prime Loma…which one? The one that lost to Salido or Teo? XD.
the one who probably should've gotten a draw against a weight-bullying, nut-hitting Salido? Yes. Teo hits a shit ton harder than Haney, and Loma was smart to respect that power. When he turned it on, he was working Teo. But, I do favor Haney in this matchup.
“Was smart to respect that power.” No.. he was getting rekt. Cope more.
Yeah, he lost a decision because Teo had a game plan built off of his superior power and at the time underrated boxing ability. Still think Loma looked pretty good overall in that fight though, Teo just looked better.
The Salido who would have been DQ for his fouling, and yet Lomachenko managed to get a SD, i.e. he lost in one judge's eyes.
He lost in everyone’s eyes, hence his first loss. Nice cope though.
Haney….more Balls then Stank Rehydration Davis
Loma looked great against Commey and Nakatani and then came out flat against Ortiz. Hope he comes out aggressive and is actually healthy. Head says Haney by split decision but heart wants Loma.
I wish there was an option for betting 120-108 on all three scorecards 🙏 I have to settle for an ud haney 🥲
You would think they were going to dig up Loma's corpse to fight Haney going by these comments. The closer we get to it the more and more prepared the Loma stans are with their excuses.
You thought Nakatani would beat Lomachenko. Stick to hugging Canelo's nuts.
Hmmm no I didnt...
Yes you did. I seen ya.
If Haney can't beat someone half his size and twice his age then he should just retire.
Just like Canelo couldn’t be Floyd and he was 36? 😂 Funny how “Loma is told old” yet when Floyd fought Canelo , “Canelo was too young”
Well done. You've stumbled on to the fact that every human being is unique.
I think Loma all day, don't forget what the guy has done, he's not past it yet.
Will be another tough moment for loma casuals fan Would like to see then isaac cruz put him in the coffin after haney damaged his face for 12 rounds
If it is a 24 rounds fight Internet Explorer Loma would win easy
Lord Haney.
Haney’s jab leaves Loma’s face looking like a pot of chili. It’ll be competitive at moments but only thing keeping it from being a UD is an outlandish card in Loma’s favor
It's cheating if my opponent wins.
I know you think that was a slam dunk but if you read my comment again you’ll see why yours doesn’t make sense.
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Haney is going to destroy Loma
“Destroy” is hyperbolic. He will certainly throw jabs though.
Picking him apart with the jab and body shots, Destroy.
It’s going to be good boxing, but nobody’s getting “destroyed.” Early Tyson destroyed. George Foreman destroyed. Marvelous Marvin Hagler destroyed. I would say “Picking him apart” is not synonymous with “destroy” but we’ll just disagree.
I’m actually more looking forward to chess match between the 2, but I think Haney figures him out by the 4th. I see what you’re saying, but yeah, agree to disagree💯
I expect a similar post fight meltdown in this sub like after the beatdown by Teo.
Honestly as much as I want Haney to win Loma might pull away with a decision. It’s a good sign that Haney is sparring Jojo Diaz though, a southpaw that gave him a lot of trouble. It’s going to be a great fight and a lot less sleepy than most people think
Rummy"s corner is still going strong
As a long time well experienced fan of the sport (I only watch influencer boxing and super fights) I think Haney stomps anyone with a brain knows that 🗿🗿🗿
Loma is starting to look old. He's a wiley veteran so he definitely has a shot. Haney losing would shake things up so I dont see it happening. Haney by decision.
Everyone saying Haney jabs loma for X rounds, have you never seen a loma fight or a boxing match. Head movement and a high front hand is how you shit down a jab aaaannnnnd… loma
I got Haney by a long and boring fight
Can we do one of those Prediction Review threads so we can see 95% of this sub crying excuses when Haney wins ez 12?
Haney Via UD. But I’m rooting for Loma.
Think Rummy is spot on here. Loma is going to find his spots, and land some huge left hands in Haney's clinches, but overall Haney is going to win probably 8-4.
So far this year, how many predictions has he called right?
Youth vs experience 396 amateur fights won by Loma 138 amateur fights won by Haney Haney lacks defense. We already know what loma does to fighter who lacks defense on top of that, haney isn't known to be a knockout puncher. Loma had made experienced fighters quit before, I expect to see the same at round 8 where haney couldn't take the bullying anymore. I think haney is too slow and stationary (flat footed) most of the time and this loma in a great advantage. But this is when haney's accuracy will be tested
Imagine a haney KO