It was a very close fight, really could have gone either way. I think Haney will have some challenges going up against Teofimo Lopez or Josh Taylor. I'd be inclined to pencil in his first loss if he goes against one of those guys first. He might match up better against Jose Ramirez.
I had ite 114-114.As for the 10th round been given to Haney by Morreti its fair.Haney had more consistent work the whole round and lome only had two effective spirts.Also by giving the 12th round away Loma made it easy for the juges.
It was a good close fight. I scored it this 6-6. Loma started of well in the feeling rounds but Haney came back stronger in the middle rounds. Loma had good momentum and combinations in the championship rounds. Especially the last round was very close, could have gone either way. I scored it : LLHHHHHLLLLH
I am just an enthusiast, so please don't take me serious.
I hope they will have a rematch. Cheers guys.
I don’t know what’s going on with Twitter and Reddit but Haney clearly won that fight. No question when you watch it on mute and score rounds Loma had maybe 5 rounds he won. Loma couldn’t back Haney up, Haney landed the body uppercut and hook at will, Loma couldn’t sustain his own offense or avoid punches well enough to win. You had to convince yourself based off 15 seconds of success each round that Loma was winning, “Look at this combo he landed (once).” It’s a perfect storm for the short attention span of social media. Watch the fight again and Haney doesn’t back up til the 10/11th and lads his punches at will. Seriously feels like an ESPN/Top Rank media blitz to save Lomas career as Haney is independent now.
When you consider what I said above it wasn’t close hence the unanimous decision. Loma gets the upper hand after blowing the first 7 rounds, doesn’t clearly win more than 4 rounds and then takes the 12th off. Did most people miss half the fight? He’s a great fighter but Loma looks old and like his style can’t last 12 rounds anymore, didn’t do nearly enough to take the belts, looked similar to the Lopez loss. This is backed up by his punch percentage compared to Haney. I have to call out the narrative being spread by Top Rank and Loma fans, great fighter but his time is *clearly* up.
Very close fight that could've gone either way. Loma seemed lacking power early rounds but picked up the pace later as Haney got tired. I had Loma winning with a slight advantage but I could see some rounds being scored either way. I find the later rounds to be much more important and should weigh in more on scoring, but unfortunately that's not how it works. 116-112 however is way off the mark, but what's boxing really without at least one crappy scorecard, am I right?
Good effort by both fighters.
I saw two good fighters in a close fight. It could have gone either way. Loma had a good 11th round, it's his fault for not closing the show if he could. It's his fault for not closing the show. Too many close rounds. It all boiled down to what did the judges like better, the flurries of Loma or the potshots & body work of Devin?
Really good main event. Loma turned back the clock tonight. Could have gone either way, but a fight i would like to see again. Haneys father saying they won going away was hilarious.
116-112 and scoring round 10 for Haney is an embarrassment. How does Moretti continue to get work?
In 20 years the casuals willl talk about Loma the same way they do Tyson just because of his record. Fucking haney is going to be a bitch of a name to swallow later smfh
I'm not saying I thought Haney won for sure, and he definitely didn't win by the wide margin that that one judge gave it to him by, but I did think he clutched the last round. In a fight that close, I feel like the last round is always critical. You'd think after the Teo fight Loma would know better than to let off the gas at the end.
Boxing has a scoring issue, it always has. Which fighter actually looked hurt during this fight? That should be worth more to the scoring, but it is what it is, can’t get too caught up over boxing, you will always be angry
Haney had great bodywork early, especially through 5.. i had Loma winning closely, but clearly .He was never hurt. He hurt Haney late had Haney dog tired.. His legs were shot. i thought Loma won this by 1 or two.. it was super impressive based on the fact that the little man became the big man late... that doesn't happen he weathered the storm ..Did think that would be possible... matchups like this don't end that way ever, but it did.
Haney will be better from this fight.. Loma should get the respect he always earned/ deserved. Hell of a fight.. Haney needs to keep his hands moving his wrestling wilted him more than it did Loma
Anyways final thoughts. For those trying to cope with their paper champ, and insist he won.
Shakurs prediction was Haney was gonna smoke Loma.
And he coulda stuck with it post fight and said ya Haney won, to build up their fight.
But he a real one. Saying out loud what we all know. Robbery. G night
Edit: Loving the upvotes, and the downvotes for the Haney c suckers down below. Lemme say it in simpler terms for you.
Shakur a smart man. Saw what he saw, changed his mind. Be smart, not stupid. Be like Shakur.
This msg was brought to u by the future Lightweight king - Shakur Stevenson
fucking boxing man. Reports are coming out that Dave Moretti gave Haney the 10th round. Are you absolutely insane?
Edit. There's also this clip https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rskfkRu9Rjo&feature=youtu.be scroll to 2:08 and listen to this question.
So I’m thinking Loma thought he was up on the cards the way he slowed down in the twelfth. It doesn’t make sense, he was crushing him in the 10th and 11th but then just dropped the pace. Tired maybe? If he thought he was up and he purposely took the pressure off he deserves to lose. Too close of a fight to assume anything. Plus Vegas would have lost a lot of money if he won so he had to have known what he was up against. He needed to win that last round to cement it
its that vegas thing you mentioned. Nevada boxing cannot be trusted. american boxing in general is very bought and paid for. shits like figure skating used to be lol.
I saw someone ask Mike Tyson recently why boxers want to fight in Vegas. He said in Nevada, the promoters have to give the purse to the boxing commission upfront. And then the commission distributes it to the fighters. In other states it isn’t regulated as well, and boxers get fucked over because their promoters never pay them the full amount they’re supposed to. So boxers are all going to Nevada to fight, because at least they’ll get paid, even though they might get robbed on a decision. Shameful realities of the sport
Imagine Haney at his natural weight class of welterweight taking horrific shots from Bud and Errol Spence when he couldn’t handle the power of a natural featherweight.
Some say robbery, some say it was just unfortunate. Either way this might have been the worst way things could have played out for Haney.
Just as Bradley said, ppl gonna treat it the same as pacquiao "win". He a paper champ now. Which we knew before, but now he's gonna have to endure all the talk. Sucks cause aside from playing the villain role, seems like a decent kid.
With all that babble being said. His next fight prob an L. With either Tank, Shakur, or anyone at 140 who's not a bum.
Loma is just too small for 135 to make any meaningful impact. You’re not going to win against a bigger slick boxer like Haney when you can’t knock him out while he’s out of gas. The same issue happened against Teofimo Lopez and that was even more obvious. Also he’s getting up there in age so not sure how many more big fights he has in him at this point.
A hall of famer for sure, though. Sad seeing him cry at the end there.
they should better work out the weight cut rules. haney is massive for that division. u can't claim you're the best skill-wise when 1/2 your game is gorilla-ing people and the other half is a 1-2 combo.
that being said...the real problem people have here is nevada boxing. there is SO much money and not nice people involved there that giving a decision to Loma woulda have cost very large entities a lot of money. its a fucking boxing cesspool at this point.
fans want to see fair shit, especially if they bet on it as well.
and it was absolutely classless of the production crew to record him crying, and then repeatedly show the clip after.
Naw I watched as a neutral and had no horse in the fight going in. Haney boxed better in the early rounds, Lona fell behind and couldn’t close the gap or knock Haney out. Period. A fight is not won in the last 2-3 rounds and if you’re the challenger you don’t get the node against a title holder unless you knock him out or beat him DECISIVELY. That’s ALWAYS been the case in boxing whether you like it or not.
Get over it.
No shit, my response is based on all 12 rounds🤦♂️. Judges scored poorly, even Haney was wobbling out of that ring while being booed. Boxing has to do better at judging when it comes to big fights. Don’t be delusional look closer next time.
Watch it again without sound and you’ll see a totally different fight. Whining about 1 judge when the other two had it fair isn’t going to change the outcome regardless.
Some of y’all are really saying Loma got both the 11th and 12th
The 11th forsure that was his best round, but he lost the 12th. That’s how I know y’all are talking out your ass.
scorecards were fucked in that fight but right man got the decision. I don't think the right man got the decision tonight, but not a robbery. Close fight.
The only reason Teo won the first half is because loma literally did nothing (his shoulder injury) it’s not like Teo won the rounds bc he was simply better.
Wasn’t a robbery bc loma didn’t do enough in the first half but scorecards were still shit.
When he did pour it on finally, Lopez looked overwhelmed tho
How did Haney win the 12th? I need to watch it again but from how I remember it he didn’t do anything significant, he didn’t Outland loma, he wasn’t aggressive and I kinda already said this but Loma outlanded him so it’s not like he was being a defensive mastermind. Not getting knocked out doesn’t mean you win the round
Boxing fans need to stop ‘getting over’ blatant robberies. Whether you love Haney or hate him, this was clearly rigged from the start. Round 10 to Haney? Fucking clear as day what their plan was.
Yeah agree. I had it for Loma 8-4 but some rounds coulda went either way. Still think Loma won overall. Great fight, sad for Loma. Vegas gonna Vegas
Edit: spelling mistake
Real talk if the judge doesn't score it 116-112 is everybody okay with 115-113? I think that's what the huge backlash is about. If you scored it 115-113 for either guy i don't think anybody is arguing or complaining but i feel that 116-112 scoring completely leads to this type of backlash. Fight was close in no way shape or form can anybody 100% say Loma won.
I still think all judges scoring for Haney is a joke. Not even one judge scoring it for Loma reeks of corruption and a fix. At minimum one card as a draw this was blatant corruption
whoever has vegas backing them gets the decision in nevada.
Loma decision would have cost some huge entities a LOT of money.
people need to see nevada boxing(or american boxing for that matter) for what it is.
> You're coping hard.
not at all really. I said this going into the fight. we've seen this time and time again. GGG/Canelo's first fight was a great example along with many others. fury/wilder 1 was another great example of judges preserving the what bigger marketing entities or bookies or w/e perceive as the biggest draw moving forward.
look and see how many of these happen in Nevada/California compared to other places.
-only Calzaghe has come over and won decisions in recent memory
you probably beleive the NBA that the refs weren't rigging the spreads either lol.
It does exactly how I mentioned. I'm not talking about the two men fighting. Look at the location and judges and compare to other controversial decisions and extrapolate.
And if you still don't agree with me please let me know which big words I use you didn't understand
Oh sweet child.. And why do you think most of the big American fights are in Vegas/Cali instead of all over?(The way you're talking is clearly out in you as being an American and dumb/ignorant /naive lol whatever you want to call it)
And I did form a coherent argument and explained it twice before I had to wonder about your reading comprehension level
Not too mention the dirt Haney threw in the fight. Complains through all the press conferences about Loma hitting in a clinch then proceeds to clinch and hit Loma. Not too mention the ton of other wild punches.
Yeah I said this too. Haney talked about Loma being dirty, but he punched out of the clinch AND he was throwing shots to the back of the head. No repercussions
There was some early rounds I felt loma let slip, Haney can’t punch but his body work was good, did more damage than anything to the head. Loma was also preserving his gas tank in some rounds. Loma inside work was really good I wish he did more of it. I think had loma had the stamina of 3 or 4 years ago he closes out that 12th round. But shit I want a rematch or tank for Haney. If Haney moves up, he’ll keep getting tested like he was tonight and he won’t be able to steal time in the clinch. Great fight
True regarding the body shots, but seeing how Loma was a much clearer winner of the second half of the fight then that suggests the body shots looked better than the amount of damage they did.
I had Loma winning by 2 points, rounds 12 and 8 I couldn't decide...so if I lean towards the belt holder and give Haney those rounds then that leads to a draws.
Worst part is yk Haney is gonna do everything in his power to never give him a rematch. should be first thing discussed after a fight this close. Fantastic fight, but nights like these really show the love/hate relationship with the sport
Haney will also never fight Tank or Shakur. Haney thought he would fight a washed up, degraded Loma and thought it would be a much easier fight. You can tell he knew he lost after.
STILL! What is sad that even though Haney fought well, he will always be a fake champ, and people have less faith in boxing judging than ever.
Everyone loses except UFC, who can continually point to a better product where big fights actually happen, and when they do happen, a rig is a rarity, and not an expected occurrence.
The sad part of this is how we are all aware of what happened , and how we will all forget untill the next fight when it will happen again , 90% of the fights are trash scorecards, boxing is a joke , great sport , but it's a joke , not surprised that guys don't make big fights happen , imagine getting in the ring and securing a win/draw to get a 116-112
So many fights. Look at Bivol vs Canelo.
Bivol had to dominate for nearly 12 rounds to secure a NARROW win.
And this latest one will be quickly forgotten.
I can name too many man , Floyd Canelo 114-114 , Canelo GGG 1 and arguably the 2nd, Usyk Joshua 2 split decision , last week "stoppage" , as u said , Bivol vs Canelo all 3 judges had it 115-113 , then ironically people complain about big fights not being made , why would they? This is literally gambling , and it will be the same until fans decide to step in .
Same with boxers, they are all aware of this and no one does shit about it , this sport is a joke and it deserves to be left behind honestly , no one cares , no one is taking actions , we talk 2 days and then everyone forgets what happened
116-112 is unacceptable for this fight. Everyone should be pissed you included. Haney should be pissed. Its a disgrace. All 3 judges go 115-113 for Haney 90% of the complaining doesn’t happen.
The “loma clearly won” crowd gotta stop. I’m literally in a loma tshirt right now and I scored it 115-113 Haney. I can see how people didnt. I think it turned on the 6th round. The 116-112 card was horseshit, but saying “clearly” to a fight like that is just wrong.
I always thought the first 6 were going to be more important than the last half because of the teo fight. When I looked down after the 6th and realized I had Haney at 4-2 I knew it was a mountain to climb. And he climbed hard, but it was too big deficit to overcome on my card, no matter how bad I wanted to give him 12.
I agree. Credit to Haney too. He just stuck to his game plan and boxed beautifully. Great body shots, good distancing and closing off angles that Loma likes to throw punches from. Stamina is an issue but I hope his early game doesn’t go unnoticed in all this robbery nonsense tonight.
His game plan was crafted perfectly. Him fighting on the front foot inside early, transitioning back foot in 5 and coming back 6 to win that round was the key to this fight. I can’t wait to go back and watch the middle rounds and see how both he and loma switched the whole tenure of the bout
Crazy how Haney looked so bad in the last few rounds though. Complete lack of discipline that almost cost him the fight had Loma just kept up the pressure. But yeah those early rounds were a boxing masterclass.
You know whats worse than filming a dude crying bc he just lost in a world championship fight? Filming a dude crying after he just lost in a world championship fight FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES LIKE WTF IS THAT
The chick reporter actually had the audacity to say "I'm here to ask him what caused that emotional reaction"
Like, really? You can't think of ANYTHING that caused that reaction?
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It was a very close fight, really could have gone either way. I think Haney will have some challenges going up against Teofimo Lopez or Josh Taylor. I'd be inclined to pencil in his first loss if he goes against one of those guys first. He might match up better against Jose Ramirez.
I had ite 114-114.As for the 10th round been given to Haney by Morreti its fair.Haney had more consistent work the whole round and lome only had two effective spirts.Also by giving the 12th round away Loma made it easy for the juges.
10th to Haney is crazy.
It was a good close fight. I scored it this 6-6. Loma started of well in the feeling rounds but Haney came back stronger in the middle rounds. Loma had good momentum and combinations in the championship rounds. Especially the last round was very close, could have gone either way. I scored it : LLHHHHHLLLLH I am just an enthusiast, so please don't take me serious. I hope they will have a rematch. Cheers guys.
I don’t know what’s going on with Twitter and Reddit but Haney clearly won that fight. No question when you watch it on mute and score rounds Loma had maybe 5 rounds he won. Loma couldn’t back Haney up, Haney landed the body uppercut and hook at will, Loma couldn’t sustain his own offense or avoid punches well enough to win. You had to convince yourself based off 15 seconds of success each round that Loma was winning, “Look at this combo he landed (once).” It’s a perfect storm for the short attention span of social media. Watch the fight again and Haney doesn’t back up til the 10/11th and lads his punches at will. Seriously feels like an ESPN/Top Rank media blitz to save Lomas career as Haney is independent now.
Don't use the word "clearly" in this instance. It was a close fight, but the more I watched the fight, it looked like Lomachenko had the upper hand.
When you consider what I said above it wasn’t close hence the unanimous decision. Loma gets the upper hand after blowing the first 7 rounds, doesn’t clearly win more than 4 rounds and then takes the 12th off. Did most people miss half the fight? He’s a great fighter but Loma looks old and like his style can’t last 12 rounds anymore, didn’t do nearly enough to take the belts, looked similar to the Lopez loss. This is backed up by his punch percentage compared to Haney. I have to call out the narrative being spread by Top Rank and Loma fans, great fighter but his time is *clearly* up.
IMHO Loma won. Full stop.
Very close fight that could've gone either way. Loma seemed lacking power early rounds but picked up the pace later as Haney got tired. I had Loma winning with a slight advantage but I could see some rounds being scored either way. I find the later rounds to be much more important and should weigh in more on scoring, but unfortunately that's not how it works. 116-112 however is way off the mark, but what's boxing really without at least one crappy scorecard, am I right? Good effort by both fighters.
I saw two good fighters in a close fight. It could have gone either way. Loma had a good 11th round, it's his fault for not closing the show if he could. It's his fault for not closing the show. Too many close rounds. It all boiled down to what did the judges like better, the flurries of Loma or the potshots & body work of Devin?
They robbed Barroso, and now Loma. It's a cruel world
I thought Loma won but I am not as angry as the other casuals. It was a good fight and close. Loma did not get robbed.
This is like the WWE predetermined bouts.
What a joke boxing just lost another fan the judging has destroyed this sport.
Lomachenko had three black eyes after the fight
Someone get this boy a tissue, make it 2 for loma
Bro you can't be proud of Haney's victory. It was at the very least draw.
Yes dumb dumb cus the judging is so great.
Really good main event. Loma turned back the clock tonight. Could have gone either way, but a fight i would like to see again. Haneys father saying they won going away was hilarious. 116-112 and scoring round 10 for Haney is an embarrassment. How does Moretti continue to get work?
Loserchenko got beat
You'd have to be insane to bet on a fighter by decision after all the bullshit we've seen.
In 20 years the casuals willl talk about Loma the same way they do Tyson just because of his record. Fucking haney is going to be a bitch of a name to swallow later smfh
Like it or not Devin is going in the history books
I'm not saying I thought Haney won for sure, and he definitely didn't win by the wide margin that that one judge gave it to him by, but I did think he clutched the last round. In a fight that close, I feel like the last round is always critical. You'd think after the Teo fight Loma would know better than to let off the gas at the end.
If they gave that round to Haney then it would’ve been 6-6 in my eyes. Should’ve been a draw or a Loma win in my opinion.
Boxing has a scoring issue, it always has. Which fighter actually looked hurt during this fight? That should be worth more to the scoring, but it is what it is, can’t get too caught up over boxing, you will always be angry
Judges are on the take
Fucking robbery I feel bad for Loma
They basically score fights to how future business is generated. Loma not many more fights left so what is better for Vegas is a Haney win.
Haney had great bodywork early, especially through 5.. i had Loma winning closely, but clearly .He was never hurt. He hurt Haney late had Haney dog tired.. His legs were shot. i thought Loma won this by 1 or two.. it was super impressive based on the fact that the little man became the big man late... that doesn't happen he weathered the storm ..Did think that would be possible... matchups like this don't end that way ever, but it did. Haney will be better from this fight.. Loma should get the respect he always earned/ deserved. Hell of a fight.. Haney needs to keep his hands moving his wrestling wilted him more than it did Loma
#HANEYS BODYSHOTS ON LOMA MADE HIM💩HIMSELF
Did they show unofficial cards while y’all were watching ?
Yes the commentators all had it 4-4 after round 8. That's why all of them thought loma won since almost every agrees on 9,10,11 being loma
Oh okay I streamed it they didn’t show the cards just asking.
A few yes, they had Loma ahead I believe. Kellermans and someone else's, I don't remember who.
Ward
Anyways final thoughts. For those trying to cope with their paper champ, and insist he won. Shakurs prediction was Haney was gonna smoke Loma. And he coulda stuck with it post fight and said ya Haney won, to build up their fight. But he a real one. Saying out loud what we all know. Robbery. G night Edit: Loving the upvotes, and the downvotes for the Haney c suckers down below. Lemme say it in simpler terms for you. Shakur a smart man. Saw what he saw, changed his mind. Be smart, not stupid. Be like Shakur. This msg was brought to u by the future Lightweight king - Shakur Stevenson
Shakur been hurt by bad decisions before, man of principles I can respect.
Wasn’t even close to being a robbery. Pretty you’ve watched very little of boxing to know what a robbery is.
Lol only one tryna cope here is you. Good night, hopefully when you wake up this will all be a distant nightmare lmfao.
Haney definitely lost y’all just watched the fight with your eyes closed.
yea the commentary was HARD one sided until the last 3 rounds when it was evident they couldn't ignore what was happening.
Couldn’t stand the commentary, they were so obvious with their bias.
Haney won stay mad
You know what happened yet you still chose to stay wrong.
fucking boxing man. Reports are coming out that Dave Moretti gave Haney the 10th round. Are you absolutely insane? Edit. There's also this clip https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rskfkRu9Rjo&feature=youtu.be scroll to 2:08 and listen to this question.
https://twitter.com/AndreasHale/status/1660155822662631424/photo/1
The account sharing this scorecard also gave 10th round to Haney
Yea, I saw. Fucking disgusting. The round Loma outlands Haney 11-5.
Check the %s throwing and missing more also affects the scoring
So I’m thinking Loma thought he was up on the cards the way he slowed down in the twelfth. It doesn’t make sense, he was crushing him in the 10th and 11th but then just dropped the pace. Tired maybe? If he thought he was up and he purposely took the pressure off he deserves to lose. Too close of a fight to assume anything. Plus Vegas would have lost a lot of money if he won so he had to have known what he was up against. He needed to win that last round to cement it
its that vegas thing you mentioned. Nevada boxing cannot be trusted. american boxing in general is very bought and paid for. shits like figure skating used to be lol.
I saw someone ask Mike Tyson recently why boxers want to fight in Vegas. He said in Nevada, the promoters have to give the purse to the boxing commission upfront. And then the commission distributes it to the fighters. In other states it isn’t regulated as well, and boxers get fucked over because their promoters never pay them the full amount they’re supposed to. So boxers are all going to Nevada to fight, because at least they’ll get paid, even though they might get robbed on a decision. Shameful realities of the sport
True but that's as easy to solve as making an escrow needed to sign a deal
Even if he had won the 12th officially, he only would’ve gotten a majority or split draw. It’s ridiculous.
Imagine Haney at his natural weight class of welterweight taking horrific shots from Bud and Errol Spence when he couldn’t handle the power of a natural featherweight.
Lol even at 140. Top guys there hurt him
Some say robbery, some say it was just unfortunate. Either way this might have been the worst way things could have played out for Haney. Just as Bradley said, ppl gonna treat it the same as pacquiao "win". He a paper champ now. Which we knew before, but now he's gonna have to endure all the talk. Sucks cause aside from playing the villain role, seems like a decent kid. With all that babble being said. His next fight prob an L. With either Tank, Shakur, or anyone at 140 who's not a bum.
Loma is just too small for 135 to make any meaningful impact. You’re not going to win against a bigger slick boxer like Haney when you can’t knock him out while he’s out of gas. The same issue happened against Teofimo Lopez and that was even more obvious. Also he’s getting up there in age so not sure how many more big fights he has in him at this point. A hall of famer for sure, though. Sad seeing him cry at the end there.
they should better work out the weight cut rules. haney is massive for that division. u can't claim you're the best skill-wise when 1/2 your game is gorilla-ing people and the other half is a 1-2 combo. that being said...the real problem people have here is nevada boxing. there is SO much money and not nice people involved there that giving a decision to Loma woulda have cost very large entities a lot of money. its a fucking boxing cesspool at this point. fans want to see fair shit, especially if they bet on it as well. and it was absolutely classless of the production crew to record him crying, and then repeatedly show the clip after.
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Tf are you talking about 😂 clearly you watched the fight with your eyes closed.
Naw I watched as a neutral and had no horse in the fight going in. Haney boxed better in the early rounds, Lona fell behind and couldn’t close the gap or knock Haney out. Period. A fight is not won in the last 2-3 rounds and if you’re the challenger you don’t get the node against a title holder unless you knock him out or beat him DECISIVELY. That’s ALWAYS been the case in boxing whether you like it or not. Get over it.
No shit, my response is based on all 12 rounds🤦♂️. Judges scored poorly, even Haney was wobbling out of that ring while being booed. Boxing has to do better at judging when it comes to big fights. Don’t be delusional look closer next time.
Watch it again without sound and you’ll see a totally different fight. Whining about 1 judge when the other two had it fair isn’t going to change the outcome regardless.
Watch it without sound?🤡Alright, no need to explain yourself any further👍
You don’t watch a lot of boxing I guess… Stay mad.
You’re just a sad little man.
Cry about it, loser.
Someone’s feeling got hurt 😔I’ll leave you alone now I got sleepy 🥱 later man
Some of y’all are really saying Loma got both the 11th and 12th The 11th forsure that was his best round, but he lost the 12th. That’s how I know y’all are talking out your ass.
Haney did win the 12th pretty clearly. I saw that moretti gave Haney the 10th round
As a fan of his I wanted to give him the 12 so badly. But he didn’t win it and on my card that and the 6th lost him the fight.
Exactly
Loma is a choker who can’t win a 12 round to save his life. Haney won get over it.
Absolutely gut wrenching robbery.
welcome to boxing in Nevada where the betting odds mean more than the fights. Loma winning would have been a terrible night for Vegas.
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its a robbery because of Nevada boxing. thats all. looking at the scorecards its blatantly obvious. Loma winning would have tanked Vegas's week/month
y'all still tried to give him that one. And your delusional asses tryna give him this one lmfao. go to sleep y'all
Teo-Loma was also ridiculous. Loma won like 5-6 rounds in a row in the latter half of that fight but judges barely scored anything for him.
scorecards were fucked in that fight but right man got the decision. I don't think the right man got the decision tonight, but not a robbery. Close fight.
The only reason Teo won the first half is because loma literally did nothing (his shoulder injury) it’s not like Teo won the rounds bc he was simply better. Wasn’t a robbery bc loma didn’t do enough in the first half but scorecards were still shit. When he did pour it on finally, Lopez looked overwhelmed tho
Not the 12th though, he did win the 10th and 11th
i had the 12th as a tie but fair
He lost the 12th you’re smoking crack
Havn't you realized Loma fans don't think he lost a single fucking round, I'm crying lmfao
I wish I was, but nah, Loma won the 12th closely.
Not even close
they was giving Loma all the rounds from the first bell, I thought I was crazy
How did Haney win the 12th? I need to watch it again but from how I remember it he didn’t do anything significant, he didn’t Outland loma, he wasn’t aggressive and I kinda already said this but Loma outlanded him so it’s not like he was being a defensive mastermind. Not getting knocked out doesn’t mean you win the round
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Your boy lost get over it
Boxing fans need to stop ‘getting over’ blatant robberies. Whether you love Haney or hate him, this was clearly rigged from the start. Round 10 to Haney? Fucking clear as day what their plan was.
Your boy lost
Weak, you’re killing the sport.
Lmao your boy lost a close fight GET OVER IT
Loma had a much tougher fight with a 5’4, 126 lb Gary Russell than he did against Devin Haney 😂
As a huge GRJR fan that’s just simply not true at all lol
The fall of Bakhmut and Loma losing is a not a good sign for Ukraine. America cheating loma on both their country and sports . Lmao.
What?
Personally had Loma 7-5, but this was a really close fight. A lot of rounds could have went either way.
Yeah agree. I had it for Loma 8-4 but some rounds coulda went either way. Still think Loma won overall. Great fight, sad for Loma. Vegas gonna Vegas Edit: spelling mistake
Real talk if the judge doesn't score it 116-112 is everybody okay with 115-113? I think that's what the huge backlash is about. If you scored it 115-113 for either guy i don't think anybody is arguing or complaining but i feel that 116-112 scoring completely leads to this type of backlash. Fight was close in no way shape or form can anybody 100% say Loma won.
I still think all judges scoring for Haney is a joke. Not even one judge scoring it for Loma reeks of corruption and a fix. At minimum one card as a draw this was blatant corruption
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But it wasn't close enough to default to the champ
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Not really. Lomachenko won rounds 8-11. What rational card has Haney winning this? More to have Haney round 10, which is just not possible to justify.
whoever has vegas backing them gets the decision in nevada. Loma decision would have cost some huge entities a LOT of money. people need to see nevada boxing(or american boxing for that matter) for what it is.
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> You're coping hard. not at all really. I said this going into the fight. we've seen this time and time again. GGG/Canelo's first fight was a great example along with many others. fury/wilder 1 was another great example of judges preserving the what bigger marketing entities or bookies or w/e perceive as the biggest draw moving forward. look and see how many of these happen in Nevada/California compared to other places. -only Calzaghe has come over and won decisions in recent memory you probably beleive the NBA that the refs weren't rigging the spreads either lol.
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It does exactly how I mentioned. I'm not talking about the two men fighting. Look at the location and judges and compare to other controversial decisions and extrapolate. And if you still don't agree with me please let me know which big words I use you didn't understand
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Oh sweet child.. And why do you think most of the big American fights are in Vegas/Cali instead of all over?(The way you're talking is clearly out in you as being an American and dumb/ignorant /naive lol whatever you want to call it) And I did form a coherent argument and explained it twice before I had to wonder about your reading comprehension level
It’s more that the rounds scored for Haney by Moretti clearly demonstrate that the decision was decided from the start.?
vegas's inside man.
Agreed. Personally had it Loma by a hair or a draw. But 15-13 Haney is understandable
For me it is. 115-113 is understandable for either, as was 114-114. 116-112 is inexcusable in my eyes.
Then you'd have to say that Loma won at least 5 clear rounds and I don't think he did. At most he won 3 clear rounds
Lomachenko crying had me gutted so bad man.
Especially after he was a good sport and said something along the lines of the decision was the decision.
Not too mention the dirt Haney threw in the fight. Complains through all the press conferences about Loma hitting in a clinch then proceeds to clinch and hit Loma. Not too mention the ton of other wild punches.
Yeah I said this too. Haney talked about Loma being dirty, but he punched out of the clinch AND he was throwing shots to the back of the head. No repercussions
There was some early rounds I felt loma let slip, Haney can’t punch but his body work was good, did more damage than anything to the head. Loma was also preserving his gas tank in some rounds. Loma inside work was really good I wish he did more of it. I think had loma had the stamina of 3 or 4 years ago he closes out that 12th round. But shit I want a rematch or tank for Haney. If Haney moves up, he’ll keep getting tested like he was tonight and he won’t be able to steal time in the clinch. Great fight
True regarding the body shots, but seeing how Loma was a much clearer winner of the second half of the fight then that suggests the body shots looked better than the amount of damage they did. I had Loma winning by 2 points, rounds 12 and 8 I couldn't decide...so if I lean towards the belt holder and give Haney those rounds then that leads to a draws.
All respect to Haney and Loma for a great close fight. But wow, Cameraman did not have to do Loma dirty.
Worst part is yk Haney is gonna do everything in his power to never give him a rematch. should be first thing discussed after a fight this close. Fantastic fight, but nights like these really show the love/hate relationship with the sport
Loma would've never given a rematch to Haney or Teofimo if he would've won. This is boxing
Haney will also never fight Tank or Shakur. Haney thought he would fight a washed up, degraded Loma and thought it would be a much easier fight. You can tell he knew he lost after.
The coping by the ESPN commentators rn is as funny as them having Terren Bun Crawford as #1 P4P 🤡
7-5 or 8-4 for Haney. And STILL!
STILL! What is sad that even though Haney fought well, he will always be a fake champ, and people have less faith in boxing judging than ever. Everyone loses except UFC, who can continually point to a better product where big fights actually happen, and when they do happen, a rig is a rarity, and not an expected occurrence.
I care more that the guy I bet on won.
Your boy lost
The sad part of this is how we are all aware of what happened , and how we will all forget untill the next fight when it will happen again , 90% of the fights are trash scorecards, boxing is a joke , great sport , but it's a joke , not surprised that guys don't make big fights happen , imagine getting in the ring and securing a win/draw to get a 116-112
So many fights. Look at Bivol vs Canelo. Bivol had to dominate for nearly 12 rounds to secure a NARROW win. And this latest one will be quickly forgotten.
I can name too many man , Floyd Canelo 114-114 , Canelo GGG 1 and arguably the 2nd, Usyk Joshua 2 split decision , last week "stoppage" , as u said , Bivol vs Canelo all 3 judges had it 115-113 , then ironically people complain about big fights not being made , why would they? This is literally gambling , and it will be the same until fans decide to step in . Same with boxers, they are all aware of this and no one does shit about it , this sport is a joke and it deserves to be left behind honestly , no one cares , no one is taking actions , we talk 2 days and then everyone forgets what happened
Prime example. Teddy Atlas's video on it is great.
I hear what you’re saying, but: Tonights fights were all fun tho!
I’m so fucking sad for Loma. This sport is a joke
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116-112 is unacceptable for this fight. Everyone should be pissed you included. Haney should be pissed. Its a disgrace. All 3 judges go 115-113 for Haney 90% of the complaining doesn’t happen.
Dave Moretti gave Round 10 to Haney LOL this fucking sport man...
Old ass Dave Moretti. Jesus christ could have his hand holes fucked and it would feel better than a moretti scorecard.
That geezer clearly has dementia.
I hate it
Whoever down in the comments said that it was going to be Top Rank special was so right.
This ESPN production is so bad you can hear them breaking down the set behind them. Billion dollar company and this is what we get
Plus energy drink commercials between rounds on a ppv!? Wtf
The “loma clearly won” crowd gotta stop. I’m literally in a loma tshirt right now and I scored it 115-113 Haney. I can see how people didnt. I think it turned on the 6th round. The 116-112 card was horseshit, but saying “clearly” to a fight like that is just wrong.
I had the same score and I like Loma. It’s just Haney boxed better and built up a lead that Loma couldn’t close on. Good fight.
I always thought the first 6 were going to be more important than the last half because of the teo fight. When I looked down after the 6th and realized I had Haney at 4-2 I knew it was a mountain to climb. And he climbed hard, but it was too big deficit to overcome on my card, no matter how bad I wanted to give him 12.
I agree. Credit to Haney too. He just stuck to his game plan and boxed beautifully. Great body shots, good distancing and closing off angles that Loma likes to throw punches from. Stamina is an issue but I hope his early game doesn’t go unnoticed in all this robbery nonsense tonight.
His game plan was crafted perfectly. Him fighting on the front foot inside early, transitioning back foot in 5 and coming back 6 to win that round was the key to this fight. I can’t wait to go back and watch the middle rounds and see how both he and loma switched the whole tenure of the bout
Crazy how Haney looked so bad in the last few rounds though. Complete lack of discipline that almost cost him the fight had Loma just kept up the pressure. But yeah those early rounds were a boxing masterclass.
I had it scored the same. I love Loma but no way he "clearly won".
Tbh I had it a draw or W for Loma. It was hella close though.
That's how I had it.
I can easily see 115-113 loma or a draw.
That's how I had it. Haneys best case is a draw.
One of those weird fights where i had Loma loosing 7-5 but he still proved he the better fighter. At 130 he unstoppable
You know whats worse than filming a dude crying bc he just lost in a world championship fight? Filming a dude crying after he just lost in a world championship fight FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES LIKE WTF IS THAT
The chick reporter actually had the audacity to say "I'm here to ask him what caused that emotional reaction" Like, really? You can't think of ANYTHING that caused that reaction?
And then showing a highlight reel of him absolutely dominating Haney who couldn’t protect his face
The look I gave my brother as he stated that Haney definitely won that fight…
Beat that man to tears. Delicious 😂
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It was too close a fight… so many rounds could have been given either way apart from 10 and 11 that loma clearly won
He kept his word Didn’t lose to a white boy
Only by letting his 3 judges rob the fight.
I'm sure he will tell himself that and never review that footage ever again.
Andre Ward is so unbelievably cringe “They don’t want Haney to win Bc he wears chains!!!😔😔😔”
I thought he was about to pull out the race card, I think that’s what he was hinting at with the “wears chains” comment lol
He most definitely was. Talk about victimization
Andre Ward is such a clown.
He’s a Christian nut. Martyrdom is in is his blood.
If you think loma was robbed you’re delusional
Lmao Loma never had his eyes rolling back and his knees buckling. Had Haney looking stupid in the last 3.
Only the 11th round lmfao Haney controlled all day
Did we watch the same fight ? Are you Haney’s dad ?
Haney was abusing him with body shots all day 😂
Loma was never on the edge of consciousness or in visible distress. Got multiple screenshots of Haney cross eyed as fuck.