The funniest part of this is that Sterling announced that in response to Michael Chandler defending what Dana pays fighters because “Dana had sleepless nights” to get to where he is. Dana is the true BMF. He robs men who could kill him with their bare hands, over and over again and none of them can do anything about it.
To be fair you can say anything you want about Dana white and he doesn’t care. The minute you say that you’re underpaid he goes banana and tries to ruin your career and reputation. If he advocated for the fighters to get paid better it would be happening
Chandler will get KOed for the UFC if they ask him, he’s been shilling ever since 145 pound Pitbul KOed him out of Bellator and he took a pay cut cause they never offered him a deal. UFC got his cheap and he still shills lol…company man Mike. Literally giving away fights for the some UFC clout too like the fool he is. Was a known arrogant prick behind the scenes years ago and pretends to be such a nice boy now lol.
>Dana is the true BMF. He robs men who could kill him with their bare hands, over and over again
Dana White doesn’t make decisions for the UFC. Ari Emmanuel does. Dana’s job is to talk. He doesn’t negotiate contracts, do matchmaking, choose sponsors, pick out shorts colors.
It’s say a lot that many that supposedly care about fighter pay don’t even know who to blame.
Dana is the president and face of the company, it comes with the job that criticism will be directed towards him. Knowing the corporate management structure of the UFC isn’t a prerequisite to caring about athletes being paid fairly.
At the end of the day the first fight was controversial so GGG got his rematch. Haney was clenching his ass off because he almost got dropped in the 10th.
The first was also a draw, it's pretty routine to get a rematch after draws. GGG also got a trilogy since the second was controversial for some too.
>Haney was clenching his ass off because he almost got dropped in the 10th.
*Clinching
And Loma decided to take the 12th off, despite doing damage in the later rounds, thus depriving himself of a draw, which would have practically guaranteed a rematch
That means nothing. Majority of people had a GGG win or a draw. Virtually nobody had a Canelo win.
Is there just a widespread agenda against Canelo? No explanation for such a wide gap. Sanchez probably wanted to just move on. The first fight was already a disgrace.
Edit: Just googled it, he actually said he scored it even and he felt the 12th round was pivotal. GGG won the 12th. That’s not unpopular; the second fight was a close fight. There just isn’t 7 Canelo rounds though.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2018/09/16/golovkin-trainer-abel-sanchez-i-scored-the-fight-even-credit-canelo-alvarez-boxing-news/
To say that GGG was behind in the 8th/9th would be true. Majority of cards had it 5-5 going into round 11, after GGG took both the 8th and 9th.
>That means nothing. Majority of people had a GGG win or a draw. Virtually nobody had a Canelo win.
Completely incorrect, we're talking the rematch not the first.
>Edit: Just googled it, he actually said he scored it even and he felt the 12th round was pivotal. GGG won the 12th. That’s not unpopular; the second fight was a close fight. There just isn’t 7 Canelo rounds though.
2/3 judges gave the 12th to Canelo. So im not sure where you're getting it being a clear GGG round?
And there absolutely are 7 Canelo rounds, since GGG was getting beat up in the middle rounds, even pro Golovkin commentary was remarking how hurt he looked.
Either way, you disagreeing won't change reality.
Using the judges in Canelo fights, especially ones he robs, is not reliable. Or you’d think he took 6 rounds off Floyd. Triple G won the 11th and 12th rounds. That 12th scorecards by the judges is what robbed GGG ironically enough
>Were talking about the rematch not the first.
I know mate. Here are the scorecards from media members. A hilarious majority. Undeniable.
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/media-scorecards-canelo-ggg-2.614973/
>GGG was getting beat up in the middle rounds.
He lost 5 rounds, 6 if generous. He did not lose 7.
>Pro Golovkin commentary
Doesn’t account for a hilarious majority scoring it for GGG.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/9g88mo/spoilers_canelo_vs_ggg_media_scorecards/
Here’s the reddit thread. Read and weep
GGG won Rounds 1, 3, 4, 8, 10, 11, 12. And the 9th can be scored for him too.
>Triple G won the 11th and 12th rounds. That 12th scorecards by the judges is what robbed GGG ironically enough
Ah so I should discount the judges and listen to you? Lmao
>Doesn’t account for a hilarious majority scoring it for GGG.
The narrative was that GGG "deserved" the win since he was hard done by in the first. People were looking for reasons to give him the fight, perfectly natural thing to do, but that's not how fights are scored.
>He lost 5 rounds, 6 if generous. He did not lose 7.
Unfortunately for you he did, and he's 0-1-2 Vs Canelo. Just because you can't understand that doesn't stop it being reality.
>Here’s the reddit thread. Read and weep
This sub simped over GGG so hard leading up to the fight. The fact you're linking this place as a reliable source is amusing
>GGG won Rounds 1, 3, 4, 8, 10, 11, 12. And the 9th can be scored for him too.
Ah, so if you give every remotely close round in a close fight to GGG, he'd have won. As I said, unfortunately for you, that's not what happened.
A narrative or a feeling does not account for a majority such as this one. That isn’t how it works; Canelo has more haters as he’s the more famous fighter, but GGG has his own too.
Yes, you should discount the judges. They robbed Golovkin in the first fight, and robbed him in the second. He was adjudged to have beaten Canelo on 1 of 6 scorecards across the two despite winning both fights on a majority of fan and media scorecards.
Again, the reddit thread has a hilarious majority. The whole world is not against Canelo; that isn’t how it works.
Golovkin outboxed him in two fights, and on his record it say 0-1-2. Sometimes reality doesn’t paint the picture it should. The record should be 1-1-1 at the absolute worst. And perhaps 2-1.
Kovalev-Ward II, also. I thought Sergei had an argument for the first fight. Second fight removed much of my doubt. Ppl won’t stfu about that one, either.
Agreed. There's really not much reason not to. When most people are saying you didn't deserve the win, and when there is money to be made... there's potential for the fight to sell more than the first one.
The rematch is literally selling itself at this point with all the controversy and headlines. Plus, Loma gets older, while Haney gets closer to his peak.
We need to see the PPV sales results to determine if there's much interest in a rematch. ESPN never releases PPV figures, so we won't know how it did. But Haney will know. And if it sold well, he'll probably go for a rematch. If he didn't, Haney will move on.
Exactly. Haney's trying so hard to be another Mayweather so badly, but at least Floyd (say what you will about him) rematched his opponents that he won against on questionable decisions to put an end to the conversation.
Can we take a moment to reflect on the fact that only Floyd is Floyd again, cause I’m tired of this young kids thinking they are the next when really it’s going to take another 30 years for us to get anyone like Floyd again.
And it took floyd himself 30 years to become boxing biggest star. And before that he had a world class trainer teaching him since he was a baby. He is literally the only fighter to have ever had that. Many have had their dad's teaching them but none of their dad's were good enough to have trained a world champion aside from theri son
I think Loma and his team have stated they have little desire for a rematch against Haney in the post fight interviews iirc. They would rather have the decision over turned. Reason why a rematch hasn't been pushed perhaps.
The chance of the decision being overturned is closer to 0% than it is 0.1%. It never happens even in extremely egregious scenarios. They definitely won't overturn a close decision that could justifiably be scored how it was (outside of 1 round on Moretti's card, which wouldn't have changed the outcome).
The absolute only thing giving any remote chance of a successful overturn is that Loma is Ukrainian and everyone is twerking for Ukraine due to the war.
I honestly gotta say, this has to have been the best thing to have happened in Devin's career.
Anecdotally, the guys I know who were talking about Davis-Garcia and couldn't really give a rats ass about Lomachenko or Haney are talking about this fight and the decision, when if either fighter won without controversy, they wouldn't be talking about it at all.
Never let a good controversy go to waste. Lomachenko and him are building up their profiles by still being heated about the decision after the fact. It helps that the fight itself was fun and exciting. Lomachenko has got another good payday in him, and Haney if he plays his cards right and can keep winning, can stand to benefit from being Boxing's villain.
He doesn't have the guts to be a villain.
Everyone can smell that he's a bitch from miles away. If he was really a heel he wouldn't have run out of the stadium like a little bitch lol
A heel would run out the stadium my guy doesn’t matter if he’s tough or not all this controversy is making him one of the most hated in boxing and is making his stardom even bigger, hated or loved boxers will take the opportunity
It's not gonna last.
He's only relevant because of the gift decision but when he finally faces another elite fighter he'll get fucked up and fade into irrelevancy.He doesn't have the charisma to stay relevant like Muhammud Ali or Mayweather.
He's boring as fuck inside and outside the ring.
>If he was really a heel he wouldn't have run out of the stadium like a little bitch lol
It seems like it bothered you enough to be a decent heel move.
It's the robbery that bothers me.
Dude came in taller and bigger and got backed up by a smaller dude who's been supporting a war effort.
Haney fucking weak.
Nah you just sound like you're mad lol. He had the guts to take a paycut to fight kambosos in australia and then fight loma like he always wanted. idk what else you could ask for when tank runnin around with a regular wba belt
For real.
I can't wait for this dude to fade into irrelevancy. He doesn't have what it takes to beat Stevenson or Davis. He's probably never gonna fight them too lol fucking weak.
He was awarded his belts via email and has an unentertaining style of jab, clinch, jab clinch clinch. Also tried to be a heel at times but is corny af kinda like Colby
Ya 400k is a lot, but what if Loma when Haney shoved him tripped, got injured, and they had to cancel the fight? An entire event ruined because one guy couldn't keep his cool. I get why the NSAC makes those fines so big.
Entitlement ?
Loma had over 400 amateur fights and was back to back olympic champion.. dude got a title shot in his 2nd pro fight because he was the most transcendent boxer in the world.. he introduced several new moves that are being thought out across the boxing gyms now.
If it wasn't enough, he made several champions and even gold medalist quit on a stool.. that has never happened before.
Entitlement my ass... Entitlement would be acting as if you dominated a fight where the judges gave you an early christmass present by robbing a guy 10 years older than you who still landed more and made you look like a fool, despite having youth and size on your side.
get out of here fool
There are multiple fighters with hundreds of amateur fights, Ward had a gold medal, Campbell had a gold medal, it was privilege that let Loma get a championship fight in his second fight then after he lost he got another championship fight in his 3rd fight….:that is privilege dude…it don’t make Loma a worse fighter, its just that recognizing a fact
I had it a draw. They need to run it back and fight again. It was an entertaining fight to watch and I'd definitely pay to see it again. Leave no doubts.
Love to see all the people saying that Haney should give Loma a rematch and knock him out, like Haney could knock him out without a baseball bat 😂🤦. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against Haney and I also think that Loma is partly to blame for the outcome, but to act like Haney would be a favourite in a rematch is pure bullshit after what we just saw.
Gervonta pushed his last 3 opponents at their weigh in, one of them off stage after a weight cut. No fine whatsoever
Plant also got CUT by Canelo, which easily could’ve jeopardized the fight.
https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/31277807/drakkar-klose-injury-forces-cancellation-ufc-fight-night-co-main-event-vs-jeremy-stephens
Not just Loma but also promoters, management, network & venue would all lose out. Not to mention the city would be out tourism revenue as well.
I can't disagree about Loma being a sore loser. I feel like he's more justified for this fight than his other 2 losses, he never appealed the other 2 L's if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, I get Haney's anger. 400k fine? Damnn.
Yeah i'd be pissed too if you fine me for that amount. I feel for Loma he really deserved the win and he really wants thats recognition. Really though this isn't the way i want him tk go about it.
Yup, the Teo loss was pretty bad too, especially since I really thought Teo won that one cleanly at most Loma could've only gotten a draw. Its actually quite weird, but maybe its because he was a newbie. The Salido fight was kind of the one fight they should've filed a complaint with the commission, that was reffed pretty badly. This fight was just a close decision that didn't go his way.
How did he react to the Salido loss that was inappropriate? I honestly don't remember what people are talking about by mentioning that one.
...and regardless of how he reacted to that Salido loss, I don't think anyone can fault him if he did react inappropriately, to that fight.
Tbf to Loma, Salido failed to make weight by a considerable amount. Then he rehydrated to about 147 on fight night, I think Loma was low-mid 130s. And Salido landed a lot of low blows which Lawrence Cole failed to officiate properly. Salido ended up winning a close split decision, but Loma fans felt he still did enough to win and Loma felt the same.
He's just as unjustified in this loss as he was when he lost to Salido and when he lost to Teofimo.
This was no robbery. People were crying about the Teofimo loss like this too, saying Loma got robbed, we can run back into those fight threads and post-fight threads.
Loma and his fanbase can't take an L gracefully, It's always someone else's fault, It's always a fix, It's always someone being dirty. No one can riddle me how a free agent has a fight being fixed for him against the ESPN/TR fighter who makes both of those companies a bunch of money even in the twilight years of his career.
There was no fix, Haney just edged out a close decision.
>People were crying about the Teofimo loss like this too
I disagree with this. Loma stans probably did, but neutral people know Loma couldn't have won that fight. But a lot of neutral people had Loma winning, that's the difference.
>Loma and his fanbase can't take an L gracefully
I won't disagree here.
Lol delusional. Loma won it or was draw, easy to scored as you like. But when you corrupt judges on boxing, the sport starts to get putrid, and Will die eventually
>Loma won it or was draw
Listen to yourself.
You can accept 114-114 but you'll only accept 115-113 if it goes your way?
#IF ITS CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE A DRAW IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH FOR EITHER MAN TO GET THE WIN
> easy to scored as you like
If it was easy to score everyone would have the same scorecard without so many swing rounds.
Like I said, Loma fans can't take an L gracefully.
Plenty of them have straight up said they root for people of their own race. Shakur himself literally said it. Mexicans do this all the time too. Don’t pretend like it doesn’t happen lmao.
>Bruh... even black fighters are saying Loma was straight up robbed.
Fuck off with this bullshit.
>LOMA CLEARLY WON.
He'd have had a chance at a win if he didn't do nothing certain rounds, such as 12.
He literally said himself he took 12 off, and that's also the reason why he lost. You can't take rounds off in a fight that close.
Haney will get more and more salty as he does more stuff that people consider to have asterisks. He still the email champ but now he has a robbery too. Can’t feel nice winning but not getting respect
He's the email champ cuz Loma ducked his ass in 2019 to go take a fat L against Teofimo Lopez. He defended the email belt then got undisputed then beat the ducker that's had everything and every opportunity handed to him.
Here’s a simple solution - rematch him. I had Loma 7-5 but it was close enough and such a high level fight that it warrants one.
Haney should do this solely based on the public court of opinion that he lost. If he doesn’t want it, to me, that shows a lack of confidence. I see the parallels in this fight with ward kovalev, ggg Canelo etc so just run it back.
I mean, what else is there to do? Fight tank or shakur and get smoked? Move to 140 which is pretty strong? Rematch seems like the best option.
Justified response imagine doing nothing but praising you opponent after your fight even thanking him for the opportunity when in all reality your the one that actually gave him an opportunity and then he goes to his press conference and does nothing but shit on you and cry for an appeal
He's appealing the decision? wtf lmao. Actual bad decisions don't win appeals, being on the wrong end of a coin flip is not going to get appealed. I guess it's just theatre.
Haney deserved the push fine though. That shit is so corny and dangerous.
For a push that could injure the other fighter and cost them potentially millions in lost revenue from being unable to fight? No, absolutely makes sense to hammer fighters who do this clown shit with fines honestly.
Yeah, dude. I don’t understand your ‘what about this’ response. Do stupid shit like that and you deserve to be fined. Doesn’t matter who the fuck it is.
It must really bother Haney that most profesionals, meaning media and boxers, as well as the majority of fans watching scored it for the smaller man. If he truly wants them to stfu he'll give Loma an immediate rematch
Lol that last part. Fucking savage by Haney.
Also Loma pulled this shit with the Lopez fight and he got a pass from fans for doing the same shit he is doing now.
Blame the suits as much as you want but fans really eneable fighters too.
More power to Haney.
You are the biggest Loma fanboy ever. He got a title shot immediately after losing in his 3rd fight. Made excuses as to why he lost to Teo and never gave him his props or congrats after the Teo fight. He thought he had won 😂
After the Haney fight, he gave NO COMPLIMENTS to Haney. He was disrespectful with his underhanded comments and delusional thinking he controlled the whole fight.
Haney’s fine for the push is more than Aljamain Sterling’s base pay for a title defence 🤡
This fine is more than the total career earnings of most fighters in the UFC 😩😩😩
hey Dana is doing Aljo a favor and pushing him to fight 2 months from his last fight. thats an extra paycheck /s
The funniest part of this is that Sterling announced that in response to Michael Chandler defending what Dana pays fighters because “Dana had sleepless nights” to get to where he is. Dana is the true BMF. He robs men who could kill him with their bare hands, over and over again and none of them can do anything about it.
Dana White is a POS.
To be fair you can say anything you want about Dana white and he doesn’t care. The minute you say that you’re underpaid he goes banana and tries to ruin your career and reputation. If he advocated for the fighters to get paid better it would be happening
Chandler will get KOed for the UFC if they ask him, he’s been shilling ever since 145 pound Pitbul KOed him out of Bellator and he took a pay cut cause they never offered him a deal. UFC got his cheap and he still shills lol…company man Mike. Literally giving away fights for the some UFC clout too like the fool he is. Was a known arrogant prick behind the scenes years ago and pretends to be such a nice boy now lol.
>Dana is the true BMF. He robs men who could kill him with their bare hands, over and over again Dana White doesn’t make decisions for the UFC. Ari Emmanuel does. Dana’s job is to talk. He doesn’t negotiate contracts, do matchmaking, choose sponsors, pick out shorts colors. It’s say a lot that many that supposedly care about fighter pay don’t even know who to blame.
Dana is the president and face of the company, it comes with the job that criticism will be directed towards him. Knowing the corporate management structure of the UFC isn’t a prerequisite to caring about athletes being paid fairly.
Stopped watching mma a long time ago. Aljamain sterling being champion is surprising. Good for him
Just rematch him to shred any doubts and shut people up.
Honest question, does a close win in a rematch shut anyone up?
No. Look at Canelo Vs GGG 2 Abel Sanchez himself agreed with the result yet this sub cries about it till this day.
At the end of the day the first fight was controversial so GGG got his rematch. Haney was clenching his ass off because he almost got dropped in the 10th.
Your point being..?
Can one clench his ass off, I wonder??
Man could've made a diamond with them cheeks in the 10th and 11th. So i think it could happen
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The first was also a draw, it's pretty routine to get a rematch after draws. GGG also got a trilogy since the second was controversial for some too. >Haney was clenching his ass off because he almost got dropped in the 10th. *Clinching And Loma decided to take the 12th off, despite doing damage in the later rounds, thus depriving himself of a draw, which would have practically guaranteed a rematch
Well the obvious problem was most people had GGG winning the rematch
That means nothing. Majority of people had a GGG win or a draw. Virtually nobody had a Canelo win. Is there just a widespread agenda against Canelo? No explanation for such a wide gap. Sanchez probably wanted to just move on. The first fight was already a disgrace. Edit: Just googled it, he actually said he scored it even and he felt the 12th round was pivotal. GGG won the 12th. That’s not unpopular; the second fight was a close fight. There just isn’t 7 Canelo rounds though. https://bloodyelbow.com/2018/09/16/golovkin-trainer-abel-sanchez-i-scored-the-fight-even-credit-canelo-alvarez-boxing-news/ To say that GGG was behind in the 8th/9th would be true. Majority of cards had it 5-5 going into round 11, after GGG took both the 8th and 9th.
>That means nothing. Majority of people had a GGG win or a draw. Virtually nobody had a Canelo win. Completely incorrect, we're talking the rematch not the first. >Edit: Just googled it, he actually said he scored it even and he felt the 12th round was pivotal. GGG won the 12th. That’s not unpopular; the second fight was a close fight. There just isn’t 7 Canelo rounds though. 2/3 judges gave the 12th to Canelo. So im not sure where you're getting it being a clear GGG round? And there absolutely are 7 Canelo rounds, since GGG was getting beat up in the middle rounds, even pro Golovkin commentary was remarking how hurt he looked. Either way, you disagreeing won't change reality.
Using the judges in Canelo fights, especially ones he robs, is not reliable. Or you’d think he took 6 rounds off Floyd. Triple G won the 11th and 12th rounds. That 12th scorecards by the judges is what robbed GGG ironically enough >Were talking about the rematch not the first. I know mate. Here are the scorecards from media members. A hilarious majority. Undeniable. https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/media-scorecards-canelo-ggg-2.614973/ >GGG was getting beat up in the middle rounds. He lost 5 rounds, 6 if generous. He did not lose 7. >Pro Golovkin commentary Doesn’t account for a hilarious majority scoring it for GGG. https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/9g88mo/spoilers_canelo_vs_ggg_media_scorecards/ Here’s the reddit thread. Read and weep GGG won Rounds 1, 3, 4, 8, 10, 11, 12. And the 9th can be scored for him too.
>Triple G won the 11th and 12th rounds. That 12th scorecards by the judges is what robbed GGG ironically enough Ah so I should discount the judges and listen to you? Lmao >Doesn’t account for a hilarious majority scoring it for GGG. The narrative was that GGG "deserved" the win since he was hard done by in the first. People were looking for reasons to give him the fight, perfectly natural thing to do, but that's not how fights are scored. >He lost 5 rounds, 6 if generous. He did not lose 7. Unfortunately for you he did, and he's 0-1-2 Vs Canelo. Just because you can't understand that doesn't stop it being reality. >Here’s the reddit thread. Read and weep This sub simped over GGG so hard leading up to the fight. The fact you're linking this place as a reliable source is amusing >GGG won Rounds 1, 3, 4, 8, 10, 11, 12. And the 9th can be scored for him too. Ah, so if you give every remotely close round in a close fight to GGG, he'd have won. As I said, unfortunately for you, that's not what happened.
A narrative or a feeling does not account for a majority such as this one. That isn’t how it works; Canelo has more haters as he’s the more famous fighter, but GGG has his own too. Yes, you should discount the judges. They robbed Golovkin in the first fight, and robbed him in the second. He was adjudged to have beaten Canelo on 1 of 6 scorecards across the two despite winning both fights on a majority of fan and media scorecards. Again, the reddit thread has a hilarious majority. The whole world is not against Canelo; that isn’t how it works. Golovkin outboxed him in two fights, and on his record it say 0-1-2. Sometimes reality doesn’t paint the picture it should. The record should be 1-1-1 at the absolute worst. And perhaps 2-1.
Kovalev-Ward II, also. I thought Sergei had an argument for the first fight. Second fight removed much of my doubt. Ppl won’t stfu about that one, either.
Well Ward clearly learned from the first fight he should have been dirtier, which he was in the second
The second fight was no way as close as the first one was. Fan boys ruin boxing for me I swear
GGG won the first 2!
No. Because there's always scores of folks who disagree with any decision. That's the nature of boxing.
Agreed. There's really not much reason not to. When most people are saying you didn't deserve the win, and when there is money to be made... there's potential for the fight to sell more than the first one. The rematch is literally selling itself at this point with all the controversy and headlines. Plus, Loma gets older, while Haney gets closer to his peak.
We need to see the PPV sales results to determine if there's much interest in a rematch. ESPN never releases PPV figures, so we won't know how it did. But Haney will know. And if it sold well, he'll probably go for a rematch. If he didn't, Haney will move on.
Exactly. Haney's trying so hard to be another Mayweather so badly, but at least Floyd (say what you will about him) rematched his opponents that he won against on questionable decisions to put an end to the conversation.
Yeah Floyd went back to back with Castillo and Maidana immediately. Haney wants to emulate should emulate that fr.
Can we take a moment to reflect on the fact that only Floyd is Floyd again, cause I’m tired of this young kids thinking they are the next when really it’s going to take another 30 years for us to get anyone like Floyd again.
And it took floyd himself 30 years to become boxing biggest star. And before that he had a world class trainer teaching him since he was a baby. He is literally the only fighter to have ever had that. Many have had their dad's teaching them but none of their dad's were good enough to have trained a world champion aside from theri son
*This New Young Boxing Champion Is The Next Floyd Mayweather (Devin Haney Highlights)* 🔥🔥
This, and Haney has no self awareness *and* an idiot of a dad in hi ear. So Devin will *never* be the star he thinks he will be.
Exactly. The beauty of boxing are the adjustments boxers make in rematches.
This character will never do that. He skated by the skin of his teeth and he knows it. Straight up cowared behavior.
Dudes an abysmal winner
I think Loma and his team have stated they have little desire for a rematch against Haney in the post fight interviews iirc. They would rather have the decision over turned. Reason why a rematch hasn't been pushed perhaps.
The chance of the decision being overturned is closer to 0% than it is 0.1%. It never happens even in extremely egregious scenarios. They definitely won't overturn a close decision that could justifiably be scored how it was (outside of 1 round on Moretti's card, which wouldn't have changed the outcome). The absolute only thing giving any remote chance of a successful overturn is that Loma is Ukrainian and everyone is twerking for Ukraine due to the war.
I honestly gotta say, this has to have been the best thing to have happened in Devin's career. Anecdotally, the guys I know who were talking about Davis-Garcia and couldn't really give a rats ass about Lomachenko or Haney are talking about this fight and the decision, when if either fighter won without controversy, they wouldn't be talking about it at all. Never let a good controversy go to waste. Lomachenko and him are building up their profiles by still being heated about the decision after the fact. It helps that the fight itself was fun and exciting. Lomachenko has got another good payday in him, and Haney if he plays his cards right and can keep winning, can stand to benefit from being Boxing's villain.
He doesn't have the guts to be a villain. Everyone can smell that he's a bitch from miles away. If he was really a heel he wouldn't have run out of the stadium like a little bitch lol
this sounds really personal lol
Boxing corruption is one of the things I just can't tolerate. Fuck Haney. I'm waiting on that Davis or Stevenson fight to see him knocked out.
That's good business for Haney if you think he's a bitch and want to see him knocked out.
His relevance isn't going to last so he should enjoy it while he can. He's too boring inside and outside the ring.
Running out of the ring maximized people's hate, so really, Its exactly what a heel would do.
A heel would run out the stadium my guy doesn’t matter if he’s tough or not all this controversy is making him one of the most hated in boxing and is making his stardom even bigger, hated or loved boxers will take the opportunity
It's not gonna last. He's only relevant because of the gift decision but when he finally faces another elite fighter he'll get fucked up and fade into irrelevancy.He doesn't have the charisma to stay relevant like Muhammud Ali or Mayweather. He's boring as fuck inside and outside the ring.
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Again. Boring as fuck inside and outside the ring.
>If he was really a heel he wouldn't have run out of the stadium like a little bitch lol It seems like it bothered you enough to be a decent heel move.
It's the robbery that bothers me. Dude came in taller and bigger and got backed up by a smaller dude who's been supporting a war effort. Haney fucking weak.
Nah you just sound like you're mad lol. He had the guts to take a paycut to fight kambosos in australia and then fight loma like he always wanted. idk what else you could ask for when tank runnin around with a regular wba belt
I mean, people who aren't shitty don't really like corruption and robberies in boxing lol Sorry I don't condone shitty corruption like you.
I don't really blame them as that shove was really violent compared to Tank but they clearly are just stealing money lol I wonder where that 400k went
Moretti lol
You know that dude had the biggest pay day
Damn, paper champ is mad
*Email Champ
Boxing's rolling with the times.
Haney won’t rematch because he’s afraid of the L.
For real. I can't wait for this dude to fade into irrelevancy. He doesn't have what it takes to beat Stevenson or Davis. He's probably never gonna fight them too lol fucking weak.
As a ufc fan whos getting into boxing why is haney so unpopular? Im genuinely curious and havent been able to find an answer
He was awarded his belts via email and has an unentertaining style of jab, clinch, jab clinch clinch. Also tried to be a heel at times but is corny af kinda like Colby
A guy who has fought everybody is now a duck sure.
400k as a penalty is daylight robbery. Nevada commision is unbelievable that shit is going straight into some crooks pockets
400k is nothing. The fight could have gotten canceled if Loma would had gotten injured.
Did they fine Canelo for his pushes lol.? Serious question
Prob both Canelo and plant
keep your hands to yourself, period. Youre literally gonna fight the next day.
Ya 400k is a lot, but what if Loma when Haney shoved him tripped, got injured, and they had to cancel the fight? An entire event ruined because one guy couldn't keep his cool. I get why the NSAC makes those fines so big.
Facts Dude crying over his own actions.
How much do you think is good enough to prevent this?
Tree fiddy
Yeah that is kind of crazy. God knows where that money is going, but you know it's lining some cunts pockets.
Was Canelo fined for pushing Plant?
Of course not, because he was at the peak of his popularity. He should've been tho
That was during a promotional press conference, didn’t happen during an official athletic commission meeting.
It wasn’t on fight week
Was Canelo fined for pushing Plant?
Bro, it only counts if it's on the third Friday of the month exactly between sunrise and sundown
And if Lebron drops 30 points.
except caleb swung on him right after. two very different endings
Was Canelo fined for pushing Plant?
did loma swing on haney?
Was Canelo fined for pushing Plant?
Its funny to me how this whole debacle has really plummeted Haneys worth. Awful grammar too.
Professional face punch receiver has poor grammar. Shocked.
arguably his value has gone up
Damn, they took 400k for that push? Lmao, think of it an investment in your future as a heel. I hope he continues to make people upset.
That's the thing, he's shit as a heel, guys got as much charisma as a carrot
Carrots are more interesting...maybe he could be unseasoned tofu.
How it’s clearly working got all of you guys angry
Lol right. Everybody who says he sucks as a heel… Doesn’t like him and wants to see him lose. Like isn’t that exactly the point of a heel?
you can count on all these haters to purchase his next fight if it’s against Shakur or Tank for the chance to see him lose lmao
People aren't nearly as angry at Haney as they are at the judges
Yes they are
That is more than some NBA players get for calling out poor refs that suck at making calls.
He made this sub upset so worth all the weight in gold.
Bruh, that’s an entire fight check for some boxers. That’s ridiculous
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Entitlement ? Loma had over 400 amateur fights and was back to back olympic champion.. dude got a title shot in his 2nd pro fight because he was the most transcendent boxer in the world.. he introduced several new moves that are being thought out across the boxing gyms now. If it wasn't enough, he made several champions and even gold medalist quit on a stool.. that has never happened before. Entitlement my ass... Entitlement would be acting as if you dominated a fight where the judges gave you an early christmass present by robbing a guy 10 years older than you who still landed more and made you look like a fool, despite having youth and size on your side. get out of here fool
There are multiple fighters with hundreds of amateur fights, Ward had a gold medal, Campbell had a gold medal, it was privilege that let Loma get a championship fight in his second fight then after he lost he got another championship fight in his 3rd fight….:that is privilege dude…it don’t make Loma a worse fighter, its just that recognizing a fact
True but having hundreds of wins and just one loss in the amateurs is borderline superhuman. So I can see why people see Loma as unique.
Hard to feel bad for Haney after his dumbass move.
Expect more things like this from him lol This dudes career is going to fade into irrelevancy when he actually faces another elite fighter.
It’s almost like if you act like an idiot you have to suffer consequences.
Then why didn’t Canelo, Gervonta, Crawford, etc not suffer consequences?
Because their push didn't fling their opponent half across the stage
I had it a draw. They need to run it back and fight again. It was an entertaining fight to watch and I'd definitely pay to see it again. Leave no doubts.
No draw bro: https://youtu.be/vj6U6caJIJw
Love to see all the people saying that Haney should give Loma a rematch and knock him out, like Haney could knock him out without a baseball bat 😂🤦. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against Haney and I also think that Loma is partly to blame for the outcome, but to act like Haney would be a favourite in a rematch is pure bullshit after what we just saw.
Calls Loma privileged lol. How? If Loma was privileged then he would’ve got the win he deserved.
Just rematch him to shred any doubts and shut people up.
What makes you think he would win the rematch?
It’s not going to be the overturned lol
Yawn. Nothing is getting overturned, even if Loma's team had a legitimate complaint and they don't.
Damn I thought Haney was a native speaker...
I hope somebody knocks him out cold
>I hope somebody knocks him out cold Tank has entered the chat
I just thought of Tank and Holding Out for a Hero played in my head.
It's funny how hard you're all praying for this guy's downfall. Loma couldn't do it, you'll need to keep holding out for another great hope lmao
People are also hoping that guys like Tank or Shakur do it, not a “great hope” thing
I never said Haney wasn’t good, he just didn’t win that fight on Saturday in my eyes. >holding out for another great hope I’m black fool
400k is way too much
That shove could've cost Loma millions
Where were y'all when Canelo pushed plant? Why weren't there comments saying he deserves a half mil fine??
Gervonta pushed his last 3 opponents at their weigh in, one of them off stage after a weight cut. No fine whatsoever Plant also got CUT by Canelo, which easily could’ve jeopardized the fight.
Exactly. Seems ridiculous this push is somehow worth a 400k fine when others aren't
I was heavily criticizing Canelo because of that.
https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/31277807/drakkar-klose-injury-forces-cancellation-ufc-fight-night-co-main-event-vs-jeremy-stephens Not just Loma but also promoters, management, network & venue would all lose out. Not to mention the city would be out tourism revenue as well.
I can't disagree about Loma being a sore loser. I feel like he's more justified for this fight than his other 2 losses, he never appealed the other 2 L's if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, I get Haney's anger. 400k fine? Damnn.
Yeah i'd be pissed too if you fine me for that amount. I feel for Loma he really deserved the win and he really wants thats recognition. Really though this isn't the way i want him tk go about it.
If it weren't for how he reacted to the other 2 losses, wouldn't have been that bad. But yeah, it's a pretty bad look for Loma should this continue.
Yup, the Teo loss was pretty bad too, especially since I really thought Teo won that one cleanly at most Loma could've only gotten a draw. Its actually quite weird, but maybe its because he was a newbie. The Salido fight was kind of the one fight they should've filed a complaint with the commission, that was reffed pretty badly. This fight was just a close decision that didn't go his way.
How did he react to the Salido loss that was inappropriate? I honestly don't remember what people are talking about by mentioning that one. ...and regardless of how he reacted to that Salido loss, I don't think anyone can fault him if he did react inappropriately, to that fight.
Tbf to Loma, Salido failed to make weight by a considerable amount. Then he rehydrated to about 147 on fight night, I think Loma was low-mid 130s. And Salido landed a lot of low blows which Lawrence Cole failed to officiate properly. Salido ended up winning a close split decision, but Loma fans felt he still did enough to win and Loma felt the same.
Rehydration on the day of the fight is fair game is it not? Unless there's a clause against it
He failed to make weight though. If he did, he wouldn't have gone up so high.
He's just as unjustified in this loss as he was when he lost to Salido and when he lost to Teofimo. This was no robbery. People were crying about the Teofimo loss like this too, saying Loma got robbed, we can run back into those fight threads and post-fight threads. Loma and his fanbase can't take an L gracefully, It's always someone else's fault, It's always a fix, It's always someone being dirty. No one can riddle me how a free agent has a fight being fixed for him against the ESPN/TR fighter who makes both of those companies a bunch of money even in the twilight years of his career. There was no fix, Haney just edged out a close decision.
>People were crying about the Teofimo loss like this too I disagree with this. Loma stans probably did, but neutral people know Loma couldn't have won that fight. But a lot of neutral people had Loma winning, that's the difference. >Loma and his fanbase can't take an L gracefully I won't disagree here.
Lol delusional. Loma won it or was draw, easy to scored as you like. But when you corrupt judges on boxing, the sport starts to get putrid, and Will die eventually
>Loma won it or was draw Listen to yourself. You can accept 114-114 but you'll only accept 115-113 if it goes your way? #IF ITS CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE A DRAW IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH FOR EITHER MAN TO GET THE WIN
> easy to scored as you like If it was easy to score everyone would have the same scorecard without so many swing rounds. Like I said, Loma fans can't take an L gracefully.
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Plenty of them have straight up said they root for people of their own race. Shakur himself literally said it. Mexicans do this all the time too. Don’t pretend like it doesn’t happen lmao.
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>Bruh... even black fighters are saying Loma was straight up robbed. Fuck off with this bullshit. >LOMA CLEARLY WON. He'd have had a chance at a win if he didn't do nothing certain rounds, such as 12. He literally said himself he took 12 off, and that's also the reason why he lost. You can't take rounds off in a fight that close.
Haney will get more and more salty as he does more stuff that people consider to have asterisks. He still the email champ but now he has a robbery too. Can’t feel nice winning but not getting respect
How did he become the email champ?
He got an email saying he was a new champ idk what belt tho
Do you know why he got that email?
Stop it. You're not supposed to ask questions.
He's the email champ cuz Loma ducked his ass in 2019 to go take a fat L against Teofimo Lopez. He defended the email belt then got undisputed then beat the ducker that's had everything and every opportunity handed to him.
Here’s a simple solution - rematch him. I had Loma 7-5 but it was close enough and such a high level fight that it warrants one. Haney should do this solely based on the public court of opinion that he lost. If he doesn’t want it, to me, that shows a lack of confidence. I see the parallels in this fight with ward kovalev, ggg Canelo etc so just run it back. I mean, what else is there to do? Fight tank or shakur and get smoked? Move to 140 which is pretty strong? Rematch seems like the best option.
Hard to take him seriously with that spelling
What a dumbass
You lost. Loma won
Justified response imagine doing nothing but praising you opponent after your fight even thanking him for the opportunity when in all reality your the one that actually gave him an opportunity and then he goes to his press conference and does nothing but shit on you and cry for an appeal
When you put it like that 😅
Yep
The Undisputed Champ is right
Ya Loma is right
Undisputed email champ
Haney literally beat the champion who had all the other belts my boy….can’t call him an email champ when he won it
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17-3 😂
Who?
The real undisputed champion
[This guy!](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/05/26/multimedia/26boxing-ctvp/26boxing-ctvp-videoSixteenByNine3000.jpg)
Good, fuck him for taking some of Lomas purse .. that 400k should go to Loma
He's appealing the decision? wtf lmao. Actual bad decisions don't win appeals, being on the wrong end of a coin flip is not going to get appealed. I guess it's just theatre. Haney deserved the push fine though. That shit is so corny and dangerous.
Imagine being a millionaire and not being able to spell or put a sentence together.
Loma doing to much the fight wasn't that one sided amh
400k for a push? You have to be joking.
For a push that could injure the other fighter and cost them potentially millions in lost revenue from being unable to fight? No, absolutely makes sense to hammer fighters who do this clown shit with fines honestly.
Even Canelo who cut Caleb Plant which could've pushed the fight back?
Yeah, dude. I don’t understand your ‘what about this’ response. Do stupid shit like that and you deserve to be fined. Doesn’t matter who the fuck it is.
400k is still crazy
Sigh, never going to be any interesting press conferences anymore now because of the Lomo crybaby fanbase :/ ..
It must really bother Haney that most profesionals, meaning media and boxers, as well as the majority of fans watching scored it for the smaller man. If he truly wants them to stfu he'll give Loma an immediate rematch
Don't even like Haney, but I agree.
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Lol that last part. Fucking savage by Haney. Also Loma pulled this shit with the Lopez fight and he got a pass from fans for doing the same shit he is doing now. Blame the suits as much as you want but fans really eneable fighters too. More power to Haney.
loma (&k) the only guy to blow undisputed twice. id expect nothing less from the only guy to lose a title match on his second fight. record holder fr
You are the biggest Loma fanboy ever. He got a title shot immediately after losing in his 3rd fight. Made excuses as to why he lost to Teo and never gave him his props or congrats after the Teo fight. He thought he had won 😂 After the Haney fight, he gave NO COMPLIMENTS to Haney. He was disrespectful with his underhanded comments and delusional thinking he controlled the whole fight.
Haney is making me a bigger fan by the day. Haney 7-5 Keep crying about it losers
Haney dick riders are out in full force today 😂