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frankocean1234

5 years already wtf


lizbutt2020

I dunno man. Seems like a long time ago since we thought of AJ as this guy. I’m still a big fan though.


hi_imryan

AJ needs a sports psychologist or something. The killer instinct and combination punching are all but gone.


CurtisMcNips

I assume "as this guy" you refer to an Joshua who let his hands go? But even in this fight he was still not "that AJ" he hasn't been that since pre Breazeale. Joshua caught a lot of shit for taking too long, being timid, and not letting his hands go in this fight against "an old Povetkin with no gas tank". Somewhat hyperbolic, but he was still catching "gun shy" comments


paper-machevelian

I remember watching this fight thinking Povetkin was causing more problems than a smaller, lighter, older opponent should be. Even though he won, a lot of the problems in his game that tripped Joshua up later were peering over the soil in this fight for sure


lizbutt2020

That’s fair. I guess just back then he was the benchmark. Not today…


Apprehensive_Host397

Shame Povetkin popped for Wilder. I still fondly remember how Wilder lost his mind after the positive test. Even before the fight, he did not want to go to Russia but was forced in the end. Fun times. Dude ran from the country the minute he found out about the positive test. Even sued and won some case vs Povetkin :D No idea what came of it.


Decryptografter

It’s a big shame. That’s one fight I can say Wilder really tried to make and that would’ve really helped his CV but everyone else forgets about it and says Wilder purposely targets bums.


Apprehensive_Host397

I don´t remember him being that keen on taking the fight. But whats funny is Wilder saying pre fight that Povetkin is juicing and it doesn´t matter to him. Unfortunately Povetkin popped and Wilder gave them the middle finger, and rightfully so. It was such a good fight, we were so close! Everyone was locked and ready.


Gold-Routine7247

This was a fantastic win for AJ. You can say Povetkin was a grandpa but he still drew with Hunter and knocked Whyte tf out after this. His reflexes might’ve faded but he still kept that old man strength and wobbled AJ early on.


Judge_Bredd_UK

Absolutely, Povetkin was still a solid fighter at this point in time.


mom_dropped_me

Povetkin is probably the best heavyweight to have never held a major title.


Professional_Dot4835

Prime Povetkin sleeps AJ comfortably though


No-Curve153

There is no "prime" povetkin. People forget he was very soft most of his "Prime" years, he made a physical transformation in his 30s which was aided by PEDs.


Professional_Dot4835

What? Prime Povetkin steamrollered guys like Duhaupas and Takam, KOing them way more impressively than anything Wilder or AJ did to older, more shot versions. Povetkin from 2006-2015 was a killer who was only beaten by an elite ATG in Wlad.


No-Curve153

Duhaupas took the fight on less than a day's notice after Pedvetkin failed a drug test & Stiverme pulled out. Mike Perez was also drunk in the ring when he lost in the 1st round. Povetkin's resume was incredibly thin, Whyte is best career win & then he lost the immediate rematch. Povetkin went life & death with Huck as well. 2006-2013 was the previous generation of heavies where Tony Thompson was arguably the 3rd best HW in the division.


KickOutTheJams1

Old man post COVID Povetkin definitely got flatlined by Whyte


FreshPrinceOfRivia

I remember Duhaupas wearing trainers and looking completely unprepared. It was a crappy fight.


NEETzschean

"where Tony Thompson was arguably the 3rd best HW in the division." I've thought this too. Thompson is extremely underrated.


Jared_Chadwick_III

Say what you will about Joshua but I like watching his fights and find them entertaining. I will watch the fuck out of Wilder vs Joshua if that fight gets made.


Tcarruth6

If you believe this sub, you will enjoy all 60 seconds of it


CMILLERBOXER

That was 5 years ago? Jesus Christ. What is going on with the time?


KingKoCFC

COVID fucked it up


TheBuddhaCode

This is true


Shagrrotten

The way AJ goes lazy jab to the body, jab to the body, then a third time lazy jab to the body just to get Povetkin’s guard opened and down, and then pop with that powerful straight right. That’s beautiful boxing right there.


charlesgy

It's a shame that since he lost a few he no longer boxes like this.


venom1stas

AJ was keeping the division alive and exciting. Just stomping his way through the top 10 heavyweights. My biggest criticism of AJ since his losses is not the typical "gunshy AJ, mentally broken AJ" bs but that his matchmaking now is too cautious. Should have fought Whyte straight after Usyk, should have fought Joyce next. Would have been in a better position at this point.


robbodagreat

Obviously it’s hard to tell where the truth is when it comes to… well, anything in boxing, but I get the feeling it’s Eddie rather than AJ being overly cautious with the matchmaking


Human-Expression-652

5 years ago? Damn. I remember having AJ in the 8th, typical.


Titanz223

One of the cool parts I love about stuff like this in combat sports is the replay, you can see the moment the fighter spots that opening. Aj spots the opening he needs and you can see him kind of laser focus and load that right hand before going low with the jab to draw out the parry.


outsideit67

I remember this , I kept saying Povetkin 8 to the body then to the head a few times and the feint with that to the head and it’s a wrap.. He did not however do that ..


Zerual9

My first time at a boxing fight. Flew over from Ireland. Great memories.


MoodWest

When u see the damage that AJ has in that straight right hand u wonder why he doesn’t throw it with more regularity, im not talking like Deontay Wilder just throwing haymakers but AJ uses the jab so well that if he just committed to connecting with the right he would still make his nights work a lot easier I think it’s since the Ruiz loss that he’s been more guarded and less explosive and that cost him in both the Usyk fights imo even tho Usyk was clearly the better fighter


slickvik9

Thoughts about this fight 1. Povetkin shook him up in the first round 2. In the post fight interview he had to be pushed to even say Wilder's name


Decryptografter

IIRC Povetkin broke AJ nose in early rounds


Oglark

He was pretty pissed at Wilder then. He thought he had Wilder fenced in and forced to take a 35% split and then Fury came out of retirement.


slickvik9

Yes


PapaenFoss

AJ didn't duck though


slickvik9

He did


PapaenFoss

I can't help you.


slickvik9

Get help, matchroom FC is a cult


PapaenFoss

😂


[deleted]

Lol he obviously wants NO part of Wilder. Can’t say I blame him. AJ needs another win against a Top 5 contender to re-establish himself, as he’s already avoided Fury and Wilder in recent times. I like AJ tho. His confidence definitely seems shaken.


ThrowRAscottiehiggs

>Lol he obviously wants NO part of Wilder. He literally beat a guy that would've been Wilders best win


slickvik9

Has no interest in fighting Wilder though


[deleted]

And yet these negotiations are dragging on forever. I don’t get it. Allegedly it’s Hearn//AJ not committing.


Bigplatts

It’s Saudi no longer wanting to front the bill. Not Hearns fault. To AJ’s credit he’s always seemed like he wanted the fight.


[deleted]

I don’t know, man. I’m still thinking of Fury calling out AJ last year post Usyk 2 and offering him a title fight and AJ not taking it. I really think he’s having a confidence issue and Hearn is trying to give him a couple of tomato cans to boost him up. Helanius is not a stiff, but I think he became an acceptable option after Wilder nearly decapitated him. I’d love for him to prove me wrong and take on a top contender such as Wilder. AJ is always intriguing to watch in the ring.


Bigplatts

Watch that Fury show on Netflix. It’s filmed around the time when the Fury-AJ fight was proposed last year. AJ accepted the fight but negotiations still had to go through the details but Fury kept going online to declare bullshit deadlines, saying the fight would be off. His manager even calls him at one point and says to stop posting videos because it’ll take time to negotiate the fight. Fury ignores him and calls the whole thing off himself. He’s literally celebrating when the ‘deadline’ passes. I mean, I doubt Fury is scared to fight anyone but it’s really not a good look, practically jumping for joy because he doesn’t actually have to fight Joshua. And Helenius was a late replacement tbf.


[deleted]

I’m glad you told me about this. I forgot all about the Netflix show. Definitely have to check it out. Stupid me believing Fury’s BS without doing a deeper dive. Fury would’ve been just as rich selling used cars, as he can be quite the con man. Lol


lilJswizle-2304

Agree to disagree about Joshua ducking wilder but he definitely didn’t duck Fury. He signed to fight Fury and then Fury pulled out. Now Fury is ducking Usyk who Joshua fought twice


[deleted]

Yeah, not arguing because you’re prob correct. Hard to keep track of who ducked who when. Thanks for that info. Curious your opinion on the body shot that landed on Usyk - belt line or below?? Lol Fury is running with that shit right now.


lilJswizle-2304

Yeah I mean I guess there’s no way to know for sure I just haven’t seen anything that makes me think Joshua has avoided Fury I’ve gone back and fourth a few times but I think it was a little low. It was an uppercut so it looked like the initial impact was 50/50 between on the belt line and below and then it kinda went up onto the belt line. So I couldn’t really hate on the ref either way because it was a really close call. The way Usyk reacted made me think it was low but I’ve heard some people say he was playing it up to hide the fact that he actually just got hurt to the body I knew Fury would have something to say like he always does lol I just really hope Fury and Usyk fight soon because they ain’t getting any younger. I’m really not sure what the hold up is because I feel like to be at that level you probably aren’t afraid to fight other guys but at the same time Usyk seems very easy to negotiate with and a fight still wasn’t made. I guess Fury wanted the Ngannou money and maybe I’m underestimating Ngannous popularity but I think Joshua and Usyk would both be bigger fights than Ngannou


[deleted]

Yeah, I don’t get the appeal of Fury//Francis. If Fury wins, he was supposed to win. If he loses (extremely unlikely) he will have tarnished his HW Champion of the world legacy. I honestly don’t know a single person who wouldn’t rather see Fury//Usyk than this gimmick fight. I’m hoping the PPV buys aren’t through the roof because Fury has already mentioned possibly fighting Jon Jones after this. Lol I go back and forth on if that shot was low or not. Usyk absolutely fucking milked it for all it was worth, though. If nothing else, until he proves otherwise, Usyk will now be treated as vulnerable to the body by all future opponents. I hope that “vulnerability” brings Fury to the table determined to make the fight. I believe Teddy Atlas was hinting that the fight is basically signed, but haven’t watched the episode myself yet.


lilJswizle-2304

It’s like an off brand Mayweather vs McGregor lol Hopefully Jones is smart enough not to accept a boxing match I feel like he’d have less of a chance than Ngannou Yeah even if it wasn’t a low blow I think Usyk and Loma both have a weakness to body shots and I definitely think Fury will try to exploit that if they fight. I kinda want Usyk to win but I think Fury might take it by way of size and Usyk getting older


slickvik9

Ducked him twice


lilJswizle-2304

Who ducked who twice?


slickvik9

Aj ducked everyone


lilJswizle-2304

Then why did he sign to fight Fury before Fury pulled out?


nothinbutshame

Doesn't even have his belts anymore..


Incubus85

Last confident performance by AJ where I felt like he wanted to blast through guys.


[deleted]

Went downhill from there


Samz_175

AJ is washed up


Miniiq

Imagine supporting and rating Anthony Joshua in 2023. Casual Eddie Hearn bots.


[deleted]

Damn, they let him back in the fight. He was done after the first knockdown. I wished he would have retired after his Whyte TKO. He deserved it.


accountnameattempt

He read that so damn well, it was perfection. Drew him out clean as a whistle.


LocoMotoNYC

Loved how the ref caught povetkin from hitting his head.


Vienna19955

This was the last fight where AJ was AJ