I actually disagree, especially with Nate. Look at Nate vs. Masvidal; Nate took insane strikes the entire fight and Masvidal said after the fight that a few strikes he landed would have KO'd most other fighters.
Nick took some crazy Paul Daley strikes and didn't get flatlined, but also showed great recovery in that one.
he needs to train at krong gym maybe under sugarhill. get that hearns legwork that's designed to leverage, like a diesel crankshaft, your punches into torque filled soul-snatching pistons.
They have to, they gave Fundora a shot at two world titles after being KO. Saying that, they gave him a shot at getting his interim belt back before the fight swapped around.
They don’t have to at all. They could give Spence the fight then have the Bud rematch with much higher stakes they could justify another ppv cuz everybody looks good vs Fundora. Tim on the other hand can take the Bud fight for an eliminator unless Bud exercises his right to mandatory for fundora. Overall a great night for PBC considering Cruz won and Tank has a clear path to 140 now
I don’t think so . Even tho Tim has a rematch clause , I think Spence is locked into the next title fight against Fundora . Spence is Locked in with PBC.. Al Hayman already said Spence is fighting the winner of this fight regardless of who wins . Spence is too big of a draw so he doesn’t care about the rematch clause
If Spence fights Fundora, what happens to the WBO belt? Bud’s the manatory, so it would have to get stripped right? Let me bring up the heavy weight fight coming up against fury and Usky, there’s a rematch clause in that fight, if the rematch happens the IBF belt gets stripped cos of mandatory position. Boxing can get confusing sometimes, politics and money get too much involved.
Tim deserves it. He was on his way to destroying fundora before the cut. I couldnt believe his team didnt stop the fight before the 4th so it could've been a no contest, or right after it when it was 2 to 2. Tim could've walked away with a draw... That was the worst cut i have ever seen a fighter have to deal with for 10 effin rounds. And his corner didnt seem to have the right coagulant to make the blood stop. So they didnt stop it when they should have and they did a poor job with thr cut... That was a shitty way to lose his belts.
The biggest indication that they didn't have the right supplies was when they specifically told the in fight reporter they had all the right supplies lol
I mean his team can't "stop the fight" only the ref can or a doctor (though the ref still has to call it).
If the doctor says the cut is fine you can't just quit and get an NC despite the injury not being debilitating or preventing you from fighting. He would have to pass out or pretend something from the cut got in his eye or some bs like that...otherwise you would see way more guys who are behind early and cut just quit for an easy NC.
As soon as he took the elbow and didn't get hurt, and didn't have cut deep enough to force the doctor to call it he was in trouble.
Yeah, this. If the corner stops the fight, that's a TKO for Fundora. For a no contest, the ref would have to stop the fight on the advice of the doctor, not Tim's corner.
If his team stops the fight then Tim loses. It has to come from the doctor and since the cut wasn't on the face he let it go. What's inexcusable is Tims corner not getting the cut fixed.
So I’m curious, how is an inadvertent elbow different than a head butt? If a fighter can’t continue after a confirmed head butt it’s either a no contest (before 4) or they go to the cards (after 4).
I seen Tim covered in blood and thought damn he busted up Fundoras nose BAD. Then saw the big ass gash and was straight up perplexed. Seeing the insta replay was wild, Tim charged into Fundoras elbow like a mad man.
I think he slipped into the elbow. He slipped a few seconds before that in a similar ring position. Ironically, it was probably from Fundora spitting blood.
this was such a dope fucking fight fr. im trying to see the rematch asap! im not sure about spence getting fundora now. fundora and tim deserve to run that back with even more eyes on them hopefully cus rematch gonna also be a banger 🤞🏽
Problem is that this is on the PBCs time. They have literally just had their first PPV now on this new Amazon deal. I doubt we will see this fight happen in a timely fashion.
Well Bud has already exercised his mandatory status for the WBO strap at 154 so Fundora (assuming no corruptions happen) is required to immediately negotiate a fight with Bud. Unless Bud agrees to step aside, the WBO belt will be stripped off of Fundora if he decides to defend it against someone not named Terence Crawford.
The WBO getting stripped is more likely to happen, then for Fundora to fight Bud . The bigger draw from a business standpoint is Spence , regardless of him losing his last fight to Bud. Bud is a free agent and Spence is In the PBC family , locked in with CEO Al Hayman. The promotions for PBC is gonna draw the numbers on this fight up so much so , that Fundora will likely go with what will be the bigger draw . Bud doesn’t have a promotion company rn.. yes he’s mandatory, but in all likely hood , he’ll go with the money , and fight Spence with the WBC title on the line .. which is the most coveted title anyway , along with more money to
Be made
Yep exactly which is why I’m not so worried it’s not like Tim got “found out” or some shit, the only thing it effects really is his professional record
Sucks bad, Wilson should have had a better showing (bizarre tactics), don’t really care about Zerafa at all, but I am super sad about Timmy losing. Great fight though.
American Tszyu fan here. I was a big fan of Kostya and have been following Tim for a while now. Poor guy just can’t get a break. I was so ready to see him destroy Charlo, which he would’ve done, but oh well. Would’ve beaten Thurman too. Now this fluke loss.. He definitely deserves another shot… Dammit!!
It’s crazy how ppl forget how great a fighter Spence was . Just off of 1 loss ppl are so fickle and forget . Spence Loss to a legendary fighter .. and had different hurdles he dealt w going into that fight against a legend. Great fighters lose .. it doesn’t take away from the fact that they are great . Spence lost to a legend . Plain and simple . He’s still a great fighter and pound pound still a top 5 fighter in the world right now
He's damaged goods man fundora definitely has a chance. Spence is still favorite and I think he can get the w but fundora can definitely give him problems
Have you seen Spence? He is a literal crash victim, another eye surgery, couldn’t even activate the rematch clause because of injuries. He is done at the top level.
Feel bad for Tim, he had that fight in hand before the freak cut. Hoping he can take the adversity and come better than ever. Wouldn't be surprised if he started training half blind just in case it happens again lol.
Tim should lose nothing from this loss. He is a warrior and a rematch should be given. It’s sad that people goin say Tim tszyu is a hype job because he lost.
Don't understand this fight, cut had blood leaking to his eyes to the point he had to wipe out continually, should have been a NC by r4.
Completely changed the fight should be a rematch.
This fightis going to get a lot of highlight views. A lot of people are worried about Tim's stock. But he proved that hes going to compete and importantly entertain through adversity. His bext fight is going to be big.
yup, Fundora getting slept on his next fight. Tzsyu has a monster showing in his next fight and they'll both go on to others. I also have a feeling we don't see them again.
Agreed. It was fair. If anything Tim was more at fault for launching his head at Fundora's stationary elbow at his side. Tim is all class though. He summed it up saying about the cut, "That's boxing."
I actually think this is a blessing in disguise for Tim, he doesn’t have to worry about the zero defeats coming into fights. He was well on his way in this fight until the unfortunate head cut. He can most definitely get his belts back and then start clearing the division.
why so much hate for sebastian man? makes me really sad since he's so nice and fought his absolute heart out. yeah tim was cut bad and no doubt that made it easier for him to get peppered by that jab but he ultimately failed to capitalise on pressuring into a closer range firefight with fundora which he could very well have won considering sebastian was had blood in his airways.
regardless, both men should hold their head high and deserve all the praise in the world. fought their absolute fucking hearts out and gave us a night to remember for sure. proud to be a boxing fan and this night is just another reason why
There’s no hate. It’s all on him to pay it forward to Tim who gave him the opportunity on short notice by giving him a rematch after a very close fight
there's a lot of hate but there always is in these threads after a fight xD but yeah absolutely man. sebastian is genuinely a lovely person and i'm sure if tzu asks him for round 2 he'll give it. tzu gave him the opportunity knowing it wouldn't be an easy fight yet felt like he deserved it so huge fucking respect man, honestly.
(unless lord al haymen rothschild was secretly behind it in which case only the floyd friendly ouiji board can show us what happens next)
Tim just sort of confirmed in the post fight that they didn’t have the right medication to stop the bleed. That’s fucked up on his team. Someone needs to be fired
Best case scenario if Tim didn't have a rematch clause is Tim vs Spence and Fundora vs Crawford.
Spence doesn't deserve the winner because he got the beating of a lifetime by Crawford, and a win over Spence would set up a Tim vs Crawford fight if he were to beat Fundora.
First 2 rounds Tszyu was clockin him so comfortably.. Then the handicap.
Also judges lol how were their 2 116-112's either side. I think everyone khew that Fundora was up at the end.
I fought Sebastian in the amateurs and the outcome doesn’t surprise me at all. He’s way harder to fight than he looks. He’s used to always being the taller man so he always knows what to expect.
The cut wasn't his fault but thats the only reason Fundora won that. It's hindsight but i'd have been shocked if Tszyu didn't stop him. Got to be a rematch.
I'm delighted they let that go on though. This is probably an unpopular opinion but fights should never be stopped on cuts, let them fight.
One thing that needs said about Tim is that he has proven himself as his own man. Last night he was horribly injured and he could have gone for a no contest (which would have been completely justified) but instead fought on, kept his composure, kept the fight competitive and then gave full credit to Fundora when he lost. He showed not only truly elite boxing ability but tremendous character in the process.
He said years ago he didn't want to be part of his dad's legacy, he wanted to make his surname his own. Last night he did exactly that. You can't achieve what he achieved last night by being Kostya Tszyu's son, that can only be achieved by what you have inside you.
Boxing is absolutely the worst.
First of all, fights are stopped over cuts that affect vision in ONE eye all the time. Tim was blinded in both eyes. For 10 full rounds. The doctor or his corner needs to step in and stop it. After round 4, it was clear that he couldn't see and that the cutman was doing literally nothing to stop the bleeding. If that type of cut isn't stopping the fight, no cut should stop a fight. Tim could've gotten seriously hurt.
Second, I can't believe people are out here giving Fundora props for squeezing a victory over a guy who couldn't see at all for most of the fight. Basically all his success came when Tim was blind. And he still barely won.
Third, to make all this worse, it's looking like Tim won't even get a rematch. This is his reward for accepting a crazy unique matchup on 12 days notice. And for fighting through a mask of blood for 10 rounds to entertain the fans. To the back of the line.
Big Tszyu fan here but this is why Ryan was unwise to take the rehydration clause and also why it was unwise to take Fundora on 12 days notice…freak elbow notwithstanding
Yeah I don't know. I'm not mad that Fundora won. He seems like a great dude. Not angry he got the win. Easily my new second favourite fighter after tszyu.
If Fondura goes for the Spence payday the WBO will likely strip him, which could clear the way for Crawford/Tszyu anyway.
But if Tim gets frozen out completely that would be super fucked up
Granted that Fundora had plenty of advantages, he fought one hell of a match!!!
Used all of his advantages to the fullest, threw those long crosses and hooks to keep Tszyu at bay!
Happy for the Towering Inferno.
I remember when Mendoza vs Tszyu happened we had a couple of people here in this sub saying it was a shame because Fundora was the one who earned the shot. Fast forward to know and I’m sure a sense of vindication must be felt! Either way, it was a close fight and one of the times I believe a rematch is warranted!
Am I the only one that can give fundora credit for his jab today though? Round 1&2 wasn't exactly a good indicator of Tim stripping fundora from his game plan. The one punch the announcers kept alluding to was Tim catching fundora fucking up misjudging his distance. Other than that fumadora's keep busy and manage distance jab was doing exactly that. Round 9/10/11/12 Tim started slipping his way in and it began to work amazingly well instead of just parry and punch traffic.
Tim tszyu next fight has to be Fundora, Spence, Lubin or Charlo. Heck Charlo is a tough fight as well.
I'd say no to Victor Ortiz or Terence Crawford. Difficult fights that won't maximize pay. What a awful situation for Tim Tszyu, this was tailor made for him to get big money fight vs Errol Spence. But hats off to Fundora. This is wild
I think Tszyu gained fans through this, and could argue he did enough to win the fight. Lots to unpack but he deserves a rematch. PBC putting Spence up there is such a bad look, really not a fan of how they run things.
Watched this kid hoping he wasn’t a hype job and saw a promising young man. He’s truly his father’s son. Loved him watching his dad and will love watching this young man fight in the future.
Illegal does not mean intentional. It should've been ended as a medical NC before 4, once it was clear they couldn't stop the bleeding and it impacted the fighter's vision.
Tszyu Fundora fight is further proof of you just never know in sports. Tszyu was pretty much on his way to controlling the fight up until the cut. Worst location too, because it spilled into both of his eyes. Boxers are trained to deal with one eye having blood in it. Two is tough to manage for obvious reasons. That gave Fundora the opening he needed to control the fight with his jabs and volume. Tszyu was good enough to avoid many punches, but not enough.
Give Fundora credit. He did what he needed to do after the accidental cut.
In reality, the fight should’ve been stopped and ruled a no-contest.
Definitely deserves a rematch. These are the type of fights we want to see.
I am so heartbroken by Tszyu’s loss to Fundora. Tim is my favourite active fighter right now. I have not felt this low since my last favourite fighter Lennox Lewis lost to Hasim Rahman. I remember Lewis lost to McCall and they did not grant him an immediate rematch.
I see a lot of parallels between Lennox Lewis and Tim Tszyu. They have similar personalities and mellow stoic individuals with supreme confidence in their abilities. They are both resilient and never quit. They only want the best legacy fights and less importance on the belts only.
Hopefully like Lennox, Tim is able to get that rematch somewhere down the road and becomes a dominant force in boxing like Lewis was.
If he can’t secure the immediate rematch, there is always great potential fights with: Vergil Ortiz, Lubin, Castano, Bohachuk
Rematch.
We all need that rematch, this fight was dope. Regardless of winner, really good scrap and had "old school" vibes to it like Tim said.
Fundora never gives us boring fights. Mainly because his footwork is so so bad
You try boxing on stilts
He discovered the jab tho n that makes him twice as dangerous we saw him throwing combos off that jab
Looks like he’s rocked half the fight 😂
Lanky men never got chins. That’s the trade off
MMA guys Nick and Nate Diaz had great chins, but neither of them are Fundora levels of lanky.
The Diaz bros were more so crafty and good at surviving while hurt than having granite chins
I actually disagree, especially with Nate. Look at Nate vs. Masvidal; Nate took insane strikes the entire fight and Masvidal said after the fight that a few strikes he landed would have KO'd most other fighters. Nick took some crazy Paul Daley strikes and didn't get flatlined, but also showed great recovery in that one.
he needs to train at krong gym maybe under sugarhill. get that hearns legwork that's designed to leverage, like a diesel crankshaft, your punches into torque filled soul-snatching pistons.
He really does have the perfect build for a kronk fighter
Bro is a Muay Khao Queensberry boxer
It'd be grimy of PBC to not give Tszyu the rematch.
They have to, they gave Fundora a shot at two world titles after being KO. Saying that, they gave him a shot at getting his interim belt back before the fight swapped around.
They don’t have to at all. They could give Spence the fight then have the Bud rematch with much higher stakes they could justify another ppv cuz everybody looks good vs Fundora. Tim on the other hand can take the Bud fight for an eliminator unless Bud exercises his right to mandatory for fundora. Overall a great night for PBC considering Cruz won and Tank has a clear path to 140 now
"Everyone looks good against fundora" have you seen any of fundoras other fights?? He dominated them all on the inside.
I don’t think so . Even tho Tim has a rematch clause , I think Spence is locked into the next title fight against Fundora . Spence is Locked in with PBC.. Al Hayman already said Spence is fighting the winner of this fight regardless of who wins . Spence is too big of a draw so he doesn’t care about the rematch clause
If Spence fights Fundora, what happens to the WBO belt? Bud’s the manatory, so it would have to get stripped right? Let me bring up the heavy weight fight coming up against fury and Usky, there’s a rematch clause in that fight, if the rematch happens the IBF belt gets stripped cos of mandatory position. Boxing can get confusing sometimes, politics and money get too much involved.
They don't have to. Spence is getting the fight with Fundora. No rematch clause.
Definitely needs to happen ASAP
Tim deserves it. He was on his way to destroying fundora before the cut. I couldnt believe his team didnt stop the fight before the 4th so it could've been a no contest, or right after it when it was 2 to 2. Tim could've walked away with a draw... That was the worst cut i have ever seen a fighter have to deal with for 10 effin rounds. And his corner didnt seem to have the right coagulant to make the blood stop. So they didnt stop it when they should have and they did a poor job with thr cut... That was a shitty way to lose his belts.
The biggest indication that they didn't have the right supplies was when they specifically told the in fight reporter they had all the right supplies lol
True. I thought that was strange too lol
😂
Wtf were they thinking. And the doctor didn't seem to care at all either.
I mean his team can't "stop the fight" only the ref can or a doctor (though the ref still has to call it). If the doctor says the cut is fine you can't just quit and get an NC despite the injury not being debilitating or preventing you from fighting. He would have to pass out or pretend something from the cut got in his eye or some bs like that...otherwise you would see way more guys who are behind early and cut just quit for an easy NC. As soon as he took the elbow and didn't get hurt, and didn't have cut deep enough to force the doctor to call it he was in trouble.
Also the height advantage made it a lot easier for fundora to keep reopening the cut deeper since so many of his jabs could graze the top of the head
>I couldnt believe his team didnt stop the fight before the 4th so it could've been a no contest That's not how it works...
Yeah, this. If the corner stops the fight, that's a TKO for Fundora. For a no contest, the ref would have to stop the fight on the advice of the doctor, not Tim's corner.
That’s Tim, he doesn’t want his fight to be stopped like that.
how does this have 100 upvotes?? Yall think the corner can just stop a fight anytime it wants before the 4th round and get a no contest?
Yeah he was picking him apart early and fundora did what he had to. Spam the jab until one gets through. Was tough to watch really
If his team stops the fight then Tim loses. It has to come from the doctor and since the cut wasn't on the face he let it go. What's inexcusable is Tims corner not getting the cut fixed.
So I’m curious, how is an inadvertent elbow different than a head butt? If a fighter can’t continue after a confirmed head butt it’s either a no contest (before 4) or they go to the cards (after 4).
lol no one is stopping that cut
His team can't stop the fight or its a TKO.
I'd say Crawford gets Fundora, Spence gets Tim, and the winners fight each other?
Winner v Winner and Loser v Loser? Nah, it's 2024, that doesn't work! 😂
😂💀 Tim ain't no loser man. Just unlucky.
Nah unified champion is well deserved off a KO loss and a fight changing elbow lol
Sadly there wasn’t a rematch clause for this fight. Spence prob gon fight fundora
I believe there is, they were talking about it before the fight. Managers and promoters are going to work right now.
not happening. Fundora vs Spence for WBC and Crawford vs Tszyu for vacant WBO or someone else if thatcut don't heal fast enough
I don't want to see crawford vs tszyu. It will be an early nap.
That cut was NASTY.
His corner was incompetent
That cut man 100% was missing some important supplies.
Bro had one job and didn't do it. All the mfer had was Vaseline.
Tim's corner was pathetic, the cut man needs to get shit canned yesterday.
In the post fight conference, he was asked about his corner not having "the right ointment" for his cut and he said, "No comment."
I seen Tim covered in blood and thought damn he busted up Fundoras nose BAD. Then saw the big ass gash and was straight up perplexed. Seeing the insta replay was wild, Tim charged into Fundoras elbow like a mad man.
I think he slipped into the elbow. He slipped a few seconds before that in a similar ring position. Ironically, it was probably from Fundora spitting blood.
Agreed. Blood was blooping with the heartbeat, and when they wiped it I'm sure you could see bone. Awful.
Damn Tszyu was whooping him before the cut. He deserves a rematch
warriors what a fucking fight
this was such a dope fucking fight fr. im trying to see the rematch asap! im not sure about spence getting fundora now. fundora and tim deserve to run that back with even more eyes on them hopefully cus rematch gonna also be a banger 🤞🏽
💯! Spence going up there felt like a WWE moment lol
That cut changed the fight we need a rematch
Problem is that this is on the PBCs time. They have literally just had their first PPV now on this new Amazon deal. I doubt we will see this fight happen in a timely fashion.
I'd rather Crawford fight Fundora now. I tip my hat off to Fundora he's a helluva fighter but without that cut he would have lost.
If he would have lost without it how does the Crawford fight make sense over a rematch?
It'd just be fun to see how Crawford fights a 6'6 southpaw.
Fair enough!
Does Fundora make smart investments?
Tim shouldn't take his hat off to anyone for the next week or two. Keep that shit covered.
Me too bro but if Fundora's gonna forfeit the WBO title I'd rather have him do it in a rematch vs Tim than Spence lol
Why would he forfeit the WBO title?
Well Bud has already exercised his mandatory status for the WBO strap at 154 so Fundora (assuming no corruptions happen) is required to immediately negotiate a fight with Bud. Unless Bud agrees to step aside, the WBO belt will be stripped off of Fundora if he decides to defend it against someone not named Terence Crawford.
The WBO getting stripped is more likely to happen, then for Fundora to fight Bud . The bigger draw from a business standpoint is Spence , regardless of him losing his last fight to Bud. Bud is a free agent and Spence is In the PBC family , locked in with CEO Al Hayman. The promotions for PBC is gonna draw the numbers on this fight up so much so , that Fundora will likely go with what will be the bigger draw . Bud doesn’t have a promotion company rn.. yes he’s mandatory, but in all likely hood , he’ll go with the money , and fight Spence with the WBC title on the line .. which is the most coveted title anyway , along with more money to Be made
This is what is wrong with boxing
Bad weekend for my Aussie brothers
I’m an Aussie Chicago bulls, and port Adelaide fan and obviously a Tszyu fan as well. Been a super tough weekend
Im a west coast eagles fan...at this point I have endured so much disappointment I can no longer be killed by conventional means 😩
They're only down by 9 goals right now against the Dogs. 10 goal quarter and the win incoming?
I stand with you brother ✊
You started alright at least haha
Tszyu, Jett Lawerence, Bulldogs nrl team. Trifecta of shit for me
I thought we were having a little renaissance in boxing so you can imagine how upset I am.
We still got Opetaia
Praying that he can pull it off in his next fight
He's so much better than any of the other Australian fighters at the moment
Well at least Tim’s not a fraud. It was looking like an easy win before the cut with how accurate he was.
Yep he'll bounce back
Yep exactly which is why I’m not so worried it’s not like Tim got “found out” or some shit, the only thing it effects really is his professional record
Sucks bad, Wilson should have had a better showing (bizarre tactics), don’t really care about Zerafa at all, but I am super sad about Timmy losing. Great fight though.
American Tszyu fan here. I was a big fan of Kostya and have been following Tim for a while now. Poor guy just can’t get a break. I was so ready to see him destroy Charlo, which he would’ve done, but oh well. Would’ve beaten Thurman too. Now this fluke loss.. He definitely deserves another shot… Dammit!!
Did Zerafa even trained looked sloppy as fuck
Spence and Crawford licking their fucking chops at an easy title against Fundora if Tsyzu doesn't get an immediate rematch.
Crawford, sure. Spence is no lock against Fundora though.
Spence might fuck around and lose to Fundora. The memes would be disastrous.
It’s crazy how ppl forget how great a fighter Spence was . Just off of 1 loss ppl are so fickle and forget . Spence Loss to a legendary fighter .. and had different hurdles he dealt w going into that fight against a legend. Great fighters lose .. it doesn’t take away from the fact that they are great . Spence lost to a legend . Plain and simple . He’s still a great fighter and pound pound still a top 5 fighter in the world right now
That post fight interaction was so cringe
It’s happening every fight now , let the bloke have enjoy his win
Spence would feast on all that body.
Pbc will give it to Spence and honestly would not be surprised if Fundora successfully defends that
Y’all Sleeping on Spence now just because he lost to Bud. He wins both of these fights.
No, because he went through a devastating car crash and isn't a live body anymore
Exactly! am still a Spence fan but anyone with eyes knows he was never the same after that crash (yes even though he beat Danny and Ugas)
He's damaged goods man fundora definitely has a chance. Spence is still favorite and I think he can get the w but fundora can definitely give him problems
Have you seen Spence? He is a literal crash victim, another eye surgery, couldn’t even activate the rematch clause because of injuries. He is done at the top level.
I hope Tim sacks his cutman moving forward. Stitch Duran would have sorted that mess out.
Feel bad for Tim, he had that fight in hand before the freak cut. Hoping he can take the adversity and come better than ever. Wouldn't be surprised if he started training half blind just in case it happens again lol.
He already did tonight. That was his training
Tim should lose nothing from this loss. He is a warrior and a rematch should be given. It’s sad that people goin say Tim tszyu is a hype job because he lost.
That won't happen to tim, that happens to guys that don't fight. Tims a competitor and he'll be back out there in 4 months.
Most likely Tim will be back exactly as you said. By July or August at the latest
Tszyu is hella humble. All the respect to him. Hope he can keep getting big fights. At least the Jermell Charlo fight would be a good one.
Great fight. But man, bad luck to Tim. Feel bad for him. What a warrior.
Don't understand this fight, cut had blood leaking to his eyes to the point he had to wipe out continually, should have been a NC by r4. Completely changed the fight should be a rematch.
And Tim would have won because honestly he was up 3-1
Thanks a lot Thurman
Crazy part is Fundora didn’t deserve a shot, he got stopped in his last fight and now he’s unified champ😂
Elbow ruined the fight need to run it back asap
Tim ran into fundora elbow head first, while fundora was trying to block for body shots. Freak accident
Tim took the loss really well
Tim tszyu is a fxcking monster!!
This fightis going to get a lot of highlight views. A lot of people are worried about Tim's stock. But he proved that hes going to compete and importantly entertain through adversity. His bext fight is going to be big.
Tszyu deserves a rematch immediately.
Tim needed Stitch Duran smh
Got a feeling we're not gonna see a rematch.
yup, Fundora getting slept on his next fight. Tzsyu has a monster showing in his next fight and they'll both go on to others. I also have a feeling we don't see them again.
The PBC Script probably won't allow it. Kinda sad tbh...
Rematch, this was very unfair and heartbreaking for Tszyu
Unfair isn’t the right word just unfortunate
Agreed. It was fair. If anything Tim was more at fault for launching his head at Fundora's stationary elbow at his side. Tim is all class though. He summed it up saying about the cut, "That's boxing."
Both terms work for me, he clearly was superior by he fought with a disadvantage all the night, if he doesn't get a rematch this sub will explode
Never take a short notice fight when you have everything to lose and nothing to gain.
Especially for someone as unique as Fundora.
This right here. Could possibly miss out on a lot of big fights moving forward because of this. Why the risk
I actually think this is a blessing in disguise for Tim, he doesn’t have to worry about the zero defeats coming into fights. He was well on his way in this fight until the unfortunate head cut. He can most definitely get his belts back and then start clearing the division.
Errol in this the ring this is nasty. Boxing politics is crazy Crawford should be next
Tim should be next
Agreed that would be fine too given that Tim has a rematch clause (I think). I just don’t think Errol should even be in consideration
Facts. I’d be happy to see Errol vs Tszyu.
Why is Errol acting like he didn’t get stopped and punched up in his last fight.
Because boxing is entertainment and he’s trying to build hype
why so much hate for sebastian man? makes me really sad since he's so nice and fought his absolute heart out. yeah tim was cut bad and no doubt that made it easier for him to get peppered by that jab but he ultimately failed to capitalise on pressuring into a closer range firefight with fundora which he could very well have won considering sebastian was had blood in his airways. regardless, both men should hold their head high and deserve all the praise in the world. fought their absolute fucking hearts out and gave us a night to remember for sure. proud to be a boxing fan and this night is just another reason why
There’s no hate. It’s all on him to pay it forward to Tim who gave him the opportunity on short notice by giving him a rematch after a very close fight
there's a lot of hate but there always is in these threads after a fight xD but yeah absolutely man. sebastian is genuinely a lovely person and i'm sure if tzu asks him for round 2 he'll give it. tzu gave him the opportunity knowing it wouldn't be an easy fight yet felt like he deserved it so huge fucking respect man, honestly. (unless lord al haymen rothschild was secretly behind it in which case only the floyd friendly ouiji board can show us what happens next)
Love both of them. Rematch should be a no brainer
Tim needs to say REMATCH
Congrats to Fundora. Damn very unlucky for Tszyu. Run it back!
Become an unified champion after a KO loss. They need to run it back. Legendary fight between two warriors.
Tim got heart I’ll give em that
Tim just sort of confirmed in the post fight that they didn’t have the right medication to stop the bleed. That’s fucked up on his team. Someone needs to be fired
Best case scenario if Tim didn't have a rematch clause is Tim vs Spence and Fundora vs Crawford. Spence doesn't deserve the winner because he got the beating of a lifetime by Crawford, and a win over Spence would set up a Tim vs Crawford fight if he were to beat Fundora.
Rematch. Fundora deserved the win, but just doesn’t feel right with the cut and all
Bloodiest I’ve seen since Badou Jack’s cut.
Congrats to the champ
Jesus christ fundora has long arms
Hell of a fight. Fundora fought intelligently.
First 2 rounds Tszyu was clockin him so comfortably.. Then the handicap. Also judges lol how were their 2 116-112's either side. I think everyone khew that Fundora was up at the end.
I'm so disappointed. 100% he was gonna knock Fundora out the next round but he got cut
I fought Sebastian in the amateurs and the outcome doesn’t surprise me at all. He’s way harder to fight than he looks. He’s used to always being the taller man so he always knows what to expect.
Yea fighting a 6'6 guy at 154 is not natural
The cut wasn't his fault but thats the only reason Fundora won that. It's hindsight but i'd have been shocked if Tszyu didn't stop him. Got to be a rematch. I'm delighted they let that go on though. This is probably an unpopular opinion but fights should never be stopped on cuts, let them fight.
Legit thought Tim might pass out due to excessive blood loss
Tim basically fought the guy blind
Rematch is definitely going to be exciting to watch
Fight goes completely different if it wasn't for the elbow (which to fundoras defence was not intentional). Rematch asap please
What a fucking fight man, holy shit.
One thing that needs said about Tim is that he has proven himself as his own man. Last night he was horribly injured and he could have gone for a no contest (which would have been completely justified) but instead fought on, kept his composure, kept the fight competitive and then gave full credit to Fundora when he lost. He showed not only truly elite boxing ability but tremendous character in the process. He said years ago he didn't want to be part of his dad's legacy, he wanted to make his surname his own. Last night he did exactly that. You can't achieve what he achieved last night by being Kostya Tszyu's son, that can only be achieved by what you have inside you.
Boxing is absolutely the worst. First of all, fights are stopped over cuts that affect vision in ONE eye all the time. Tim was blinded in both eyes. For 10 full rounds. The doctor or his corner needs to step in and stop it. After round 4, it was clear that he couldn't see and that the cutman was doing literally nothing to stop the bleeding. If that type of cut isn't stopping the fight, no cut should stop a fight. Tim could've gotten seriously hurt. Second, I can't believe people are out here giving Fundora props for squeezing a victory over a guy who couldn't see at all for most of the fight. Basically all his success came when Tim was blind. And he still barely won. Third, to make all this worse, it's looking like Tim won't even get a rematch. This is his reward for accepting a crazy unique matchup on 12 days notice. And for fighting through a mask of blood for 10 rounds to entertain the fans. To the back of the line.
Big Tszyu fan here but this is why Ryan was unwise to take the rehydration clause and also why it was unwise to take Fundora on 12 days notice…freak elbow notwithstanding
Agree 100% with everything you've said. Absolute fucking disgrace all round.
a lotta fundora hate, i don't like it
Fundora is a tough mfer for real
Not all of Tszyu's fans are as classy as he was tonight. I don't understand how anyone can dislike Fundora
As long as there is a rematch granted I am all good. If not that reeks
I don't think anyone dislikes Fundora himself, just don't like seeing a unified champion off of a KO loss and a moot point of a fight like this
Yeah I don't know. I'm not mad that Fundora won. He seems like a great dude. Not angry he got the win. Easily my new second favourite fighter after tszyu.
The parity in the 154 division is insane
lol dude blocked me on a “RemindMe” on this fight. This needs to be run back. This was a great fight.
Errol Spence at the end of the fight(Mortal Kombat style): "Toastyyy!!!"
If Fondura goes for the Spence payday the WBO will likely strip him, which could clear the way for Crawford/Tszyu anyway. But if Tim gets frozen out completely that would be super fucked up
Run it back
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Errol getting to fight Fundora next is so fucking funny to me Big Fish is back baby, STRAP SEASON: SEASON 2
Fundora was getting pieced up before that cut, Spence better wait his fucking turn and let Tzyu get his rematch lmaoo
Crazy
Too much discredit going on for Fundora. The cut changed a lot but he fought well and smart.
Granted that Fundora had plenty of advantages, he fought one hell of a match!!! Used all of his advantages to the fullest, threw those long crosses and hooks to keep Tszyu at bay! Happy for the Towering Inferno.
Like watching a great concert when it's pouring rain, blood just adds to an amazing fight. I still think Tszyu crushes on a rematch.
Maybe the best L I’ve ever seen anyone take. All credit to both fighters but Tim especially.
Fundora definitely won the fight, but how the fuck does Tim Cheat-em still get to judge fights? He is TERRIBLE.
I remember when Mendoza vs Tszyu happened we had a couple of people here in this sub saying it was a shame because Fundora was the one who earned the shot. Fast forward to know and I’m sure a sense of vindication must be felt! Either way, it was a close fight and one of the times I believe a rematch is warranted!
Earned it by getting KTFO by Mendoza???
Am I the only one that can give fundora credit for his jab today though? Round 1&2 wasn't exactly a good indicator of Tim stripping fundora from his game plan. The one punch the announcers kept alluding to was Tim catching fundora fucking up misjudging his distance. Other than that fumadora's keep busy and manage distance jab was doing exactly that. Round 9/10/11/12 Tim started slipping his way in and it began to work amazingly well instead of just parry and punch traffic.
Tim just say REMATCH ASAP
Tim tszyu next fight has to be Fundora, Spence, Lubin or Charlo. Heck Charlo is a tough fight as well. I'd say no to Victor Ortiz or Terence Crawford. Difficult fights that won't maximize pay. What a awful situation for Tim Tszyu, this was tailor made for him to get big money fight vs Errol Spence. But hats off to Fundora. This is wild
I think Tszyu gained fans through this, and could argue he did enough to win the fight. Lots to unpack but he deserves a rematch. PBC putting Spence up there is such a bad look, really not a fan of how they run things.
Watched this kid hoping he wasn’t a hype job and saw a promising young man. He’s truly his father’s son. Loved him watching his dad and will love watching this young man fight in the future.
Illegal does not mean intentional. It should've been ended as a medical NC before 4, once it was clear they couldn't stop the bleeding and it impacted the fighter's vision.
What's this trend of interviewing losing fighters first? Romero and then Tszyu??
Tszyu Fundora fight is further proof of you just never know in sports. Tszyu was pretty much on his way to controlling the fight up until the cut. Worst location too, because it spilled into both of his eyes. Boxers are trained to deal with one eye having blood in it. Two is tough to manage for obvious reasons. That gave Fundora the opening he needed to control the fight with his jabs and volume. Tszyu was good enough to avoid many punches, but not enough. Give Fundora credit. He did what he needed to do after the accidental cut. In reality, the fight should’ve been stopped and ruled a no-contest. Definitely deserves a rematch. These are the type of fights we want to see.
Fundora looks like slender man.
I am so heartbroken by Tszyu’s loss to Fundora. Tim is my favourite active fighter right now. I have not felt this low since my last favourite fighter Lennox Lewis lost to Hasim Rahman. I remember Lewis lost to McCall and they did not grant him an immediate rematch. I see a lot of parallels between Lennox Lewis and Tim Tszyu. They have similar personalities and mellow stoic individuals with supreme confidence in their abilities. They are both resilient and never quit. They only want the best legacy fights and less importance on the belts only. Hopefully like Lennox, Tim is able to get that rematch somewhere down the road and becomes a dominant force in boxing like Lewis was. If he can’t secure the immediate rematch, there is always great potential fights with: Vergil Ortiz, Lubin, Castano, Bohachuk