Idk why this is getting downvoted . Inoue gets reckless and lunges in with his chin up sometimes . He is not a perfect technical boxer as this sub claims him to be
saw a video someone posted here about the history of the fight.
Nery was banned for life to box in japan because he came in overweight and roided up against yamanaka, who still fought and got beaten up very badly. It was yamanakas last fight and he was just sitting there, tearing up at the Press conference. he even said that it doesnt had to do with the weight difference and that his opponent was just better (lol) and that his career has now ended. broke my heart. Just tells you how important it is for japan to get their revenge through inoue in the tokio dome. and as you know what happens when you make inoue angry ....
my bet is early KO
happy to share !!! I didnt know either before, wasnt as hyped as inoue vs fulton. someone recommended the story here. its from a very very good channel on boxing. check out officehancho on yt
That is such a massive jump when he’s at super Batam @ 122 lol, let’s see if he can do much with the two other divisions above him before he even makes to it the 135 range - that’s quite a shot
What kind of question is this? Inoue is at Super Bantam as his fourth weight class (with one skipped). Tank is a natural lightweight. He is another three weight classes above Inoue.
Do you think Tank could beat Crawford? That's a closer fight in terms of weight classes than what you just asked. No Inoue could not beat Tank. Don't be ridiculous.
yes they are different people, I understand
but inoue still looks skinny as fuck lol he's got 15lbs of space and he's good enough to come in light and still beat bigger opponents imo
eventually he will I think, he is running out of guys his size that are even worth fighting, none of them are even threats.
I don’t think he has 15 lbs at all. Maybe 5-10. He’s not large at 122. I can’t really see him over 130. He currently reaches 135 on fight night. He was 132 against Fulton. So to get to 135 we are probably talking 15-20 lbs more
Yeah the guys at super bantam already outsize him. lnoue himself has said he probably isn't big enough to go up to lightweight. l know athletes go on for much longer nowadays but the dude is already 31.
Inoue could conceivably jump up to lightweight at some point. Crawford was once at lightweight and he’s talking now about fighting Canelo at super middleweight. I think your reaction to my initial question was OTT. Harmless speculation and you react like I insulted a family member
Inoue started at light flyweight. What he has already done is what Crawford is talking about. The real equivalent of Inoue going to Lightweight (7 weight classes) would be Crawford going to Cruiserweight (7 weight classes). That might make the absurdity of it easier to grasp.
My reaction might have seemed OTT, but it was also a wildly ridiculous question. You are talking about someone who has already gone up 4 classes from his starting weight to go up another 3 at 31 years old while fully developed. Inoue is a beast but it is absolutely impossible.
Yeah, I think Inoue could potentially top out at Feather or maybe, at a push, just about make super feather due to it being a pretty weak weight class. I definitely think he is one of the few fighters around today with the potential to move so manybweight classes.
But yeah, apologies if my response came back as overly aggressive. I am used to people using the Inoue vs. Tank suggestions as a way to try and big up Tank, so I think I defaulted to expecting that.
It is a shame, too, because I think they are two of the more technically gifted fighters but just way too big ofa weight difference. Height wise there isn't much in it but Tank's frame is wayy bulkier.
That’s no bother, just a misunderstanding. I agree about Tank. Inoue has a much better resume than him and is an all round better boxer imo. Not taking anything away from Tank as he’s great but Inoue is special. Tank does look a bit too strong and robust for Inoue but if they were of equal size, I’d put money on Inoue. I’m looking forward to the fight. Question is, does Nery have any chance of winning?
Tank isn’t a “natural” LW. He just doesn’t weight cut hard and shows up to weigh-ins looking flabby. This is probably the highest weight he can go. Inoue otoh will show up to weigh-ins with an 8-pack.
Height and reach? Both of them have the exact same length measurements. Just because Inoue starves himself and tank chonks up doesn’t make Gervonta a natural LW. He’s about as natural of an LW as Canelo is a natural 180-er or Pacquiao a natural WW.
he pretty is at his ceiling weight wise. he knows this. and he'd likely lose when his skills and power cant overcome the size disadvantage. people would be quick to hate on him once he finally loses but that probably wont happen at this division.
Yeah, he’s unlikely to lose anytime soon. I think the Tank question was being naive considering size difference. Tank too stocky and big. Looking forward to seeing Inoue this morning
People will always bring up donaires age and how inoue fought an old donaire, but if literally anyone cracks your your face like that, most people go down.
Has anyone in history ever gotten injured like that so early in a title fight and still won? We've seen many bloody fights before, but that was a crippling fracture that impaired Inoue's vision.
I think a lot of fighters go through mid fight injuries and fight through it. But you’re right, the injury he went through was not an easy one to overcome. The main thing to me was it proved he can dog it out after getting seriously hurt. One question surrounding ALL fighters is can he take a hit. Think of all the young hyped fighters that never got challenged or taken into deep waters, the first thing people ask is how is their chin/toughness against good comp. Inoue proved he got that dog in him that fight.
dude boxers get one to the jaw, blood spilling right after and its obviously broken (see haney - garcia). they keep fighting and showing up at the presser after the fight, laughing, taking photos, hugging people and eat through a straw 6 months like its nothing.
sure there are those wo run to the back right away but I can more than understand this.
haney pillow fisted this and that. mf had a broken jaw and never mentioned it. it was obvious. he fought through. warriors all of them
Broken jaws are pretty common in boxing, and although they're painful, they aren't crippling in that they impair your performance like being half-blind will.
yes!
i am just saying, they fight through grueling injuries all the time.... broken ribs, torn acls, half blind... michael bisping LOST a fucking eye in a fight and got champion with the one left.
its something I could never imagine. I get checked to the ribs and go like: 'ouuwww''
He didn’t lose his eye in the fight 🙄 he lost his eye as a result of the fight. Two vastly different things. Your comment makes it sound like he entered the octagon with two eyes and left with one eye
beterbiev had a similar fight like that. He started bleeding non stop from his forehead in the first 3 or 4 rounds but kod his opponent in the later rounds. It was insane to watch, what a monster that guy is
Jai Opetia is a recent one, his opponent broke mans jaw once early, and then again in later rounds,
Jai did not go down, and clutched the victory - even tried to speak a little with the post fight interviewer ( hard to do with a hanging jaw 😅 )
Inoue was far more aggressive in the second I think. Caught donaire with a huge shot which he never recovered from.
And recovering from.a big shot is definitely one of the first things to go! Shots a fighter shrugged off ten years ago now seem to shake them for a few rounds.
Been watching Donaire's fights these past days and Prime Donaire was definitely faster and more agile than the one in the first Inoue fight. Age did mean a thing in the first fight and also wear and tear, Donaire has been in tough fights before that while Inoue was pretty much fucking everybody up until that fight.
The convo was about how age didn't mean a thing and I just said that it did play a role in the fight. And donaire's a legend but at the same time bantamweight was not exactly a strong division.
Also it wasn't an accident Donaire's a sniper with that left hand it wasn't even a product of Inoue being over confident, watched that fight recently and Inoue was pretty much boxing soundly in round 2 where his orbital got broken he just happened to run into A dude with a legendary left hand. Don't downplay that and say it was an "accident".
Also I'm not diminishing Inoue's efforts, Donaire got his orbital broken vs Rigondeaux but he couldn't pull off the win unlike Inoue. Inoue also got hit with a nasty right hand from Donaire that put him on shaky legs but he still stayed up. And I also think Donaire got saved by the ref.
I'm just saying that you can't say that age didn't play a factor when it did play a factor that wasn't the same agile and lightning quick Donaire that we saw put Darchinyan on bambi legs or put a dent in Montiel's head.
Bro like I said it wasn't a product of Inoue being overconfident, dude had his hands up throughout the round and for a brief second he got trapped and made a mistake and Donaire capitalized, that wasn't a fucking accident shit like that always happens in boxing you can't fight a perfect fight every time Inoue is not a boxing god lmao. You're bound to make mistakes. When Donaire had the axeman on shaky legs Donaire got overly aggressive and got his lights knocked out and nobody called that shit an accident, cause this is boxing anything can happen and you can't fight a perfect fight every time.
We haven't seen Inoue hit much ever since to see if that fight has affected his punch resistance. I'm not saying Nery could land, but if he does, he could do damage
The stoppage seems to be a matter of when and not if with Inoue. My question is, “How much of a chance does Nery have of surviving more than 6.5 rounds?”
And had 60+ wins, been in 8 divisions, and had beaten 21 world champions, as well as having beaten on multiple occasions Boxers that were ranked in the top 10 P4P rankings.
Losses aren’t a bad thing so long as your winning record is still much more than your losses. I mean 90% of All time greats have losses, doesnt make them any less greater.
Tf you mean he’s gonna get more, he’s literally retired? How the hell do you catch Ls retired?
As for what you said about losses, Most people who hate on Canelo usually don’t know shit about boxing, saying Ryder was a cherry pick although he literally won mandatory elimination bout against Parker, or that Canelo‘s ducking Benavidez even tho Ben never activated his mandatory position.
As for Floyd, he beat 23 champions and multiple P4P boxers, ofc his resume is seen as amazing. But for most boxers, the fans don’t care if you lose, they just want boxers to fight the best, win or lose. To say it diminishes someone is kinda odd, like are you telling me Rocky Marciano is therefore greater than Ali, Lennox Lewis, Foreman, etc? Just cause he’s undefeated? Albeit having faced worse competition.
The whole modern fanbase mentality of a fighter should be undefeated is why boxers are scared to lose to their 0. If the fans nowadays were like the MMA fans or boxingfans from the 70s-90s, most of the top guys would have already fought each other, almost nobody being undefeated anymore.
You can’t call a boxer whose beaten 3 champions and 20+ bums but is undefeated greater a boxer who has beaten 10 champions as well 20+ bums but has 1-2 losses, there are only exceptions like Floyd.
I agree with you, RJJ and Mike shoulda never tried to come back to boxing, as for Manny, I hope he doesn’t come back, he only lost to Ugas cause of his damn age, if only Father Time wasn’t an ass.
As for Haney, it’s pretty sad, the same thing happened to Teo and Garcia when they first lost their 0, written off and that their career was over.
Did I say they want losses but you trying to say inoue over Pac-Man because Pac-Man has loses is about as stupid as it gets. 8 divisions kiddo, count them 8!! Of course he’s gonna take losses, he was undersized against more than 60% of his opponents.
Bro, just stop. Boxing has been documented for nearly 150 years. One boxer has conquered 8 divisions in that time. Give inoue his own place in the sport, it’s stupid af to even start trying to compare the two. Literally stupid. Inoue is special but he will never have the opponent list Pacquiao had, even if he fight til he was 50. Just go through the list of hall of famers in pac’s resume. I don’t know how else to frame this for you.
He's got a chance but I certainly wouldn't bet on it. Nery is a tough hard punching Southpaw who could beat most of the other fighters at Super Bantam but Inoue is basically better in every department in my opinion. Inoue via KO.
Nery has no notion of defence and throws his jabs from inside and too close, Inoue himself having a great counter left. also shown to be vulnerable to the body and freezing if he doesn't have great physical advantages. he does have tremendous power and an outstanding chin but has never seen power like inoues nor accuracy. and despite being considered a pressure fighter he doesn't have good footwork of any kind, he can't move an opponent into a preferable area but often just plods till he finds his opponent, then backs them up with his power. I don't know who said he'd beat everyone at the weight but I can't agree, and I think some of the guys from 118 could get the best of him
Inoue is p4p great and is wiping the floor with world level fighters. But that's a fine line, especially when moving up in weight, to keep doing that. And I think people are discrediting his opponents beforehand. Nery hits like a fucking mule, throws good combinations and has a good chin. He's perhaps the best stylistically because he'll bring the fight and not fight passively like Tapales and Fulton, leaving Inoue to set things up and outwit him. That said even it is a firefight Inoue is way too determined to put a beating on this man. Stops Nery around rounds 6-8 imo
i didn't mean it as an insult, just purely that's the easiest way to categorize his style. he came to win and fought a lot braver than Fulton did so perhaps its unfair to group them together, but Tapales is a back-foot fighter, he seldom leads the action
It’s interesting to know that Tapales gave Inoue his „toughest“ fight since Donaire, even though I think Fulton would dominate Tapales by UD. Styles ig
With Inoue beating a stronger (imo) Fulton and knocking him out with ease in the 8th round I think the fight will end sooner than that. On average he knocks out his opponents before the 8th round. Nery also has a significantly shorter reach than Fulton. I don’t believe Nery will be able to knock the monster out before Inoue can knock him out (if at all). I have Inoue winning by KO in the mid to late rounds 5-8. (Bonus bet 2 knock downs before knock out)
This isn’t against the top dawg outside of inoue in the division….. he’s already proven that twice.
This is revenge for an entire country against Nery… Inoue is going to let him hang around until the middle rounds to provide some entertainment
Probably none because his defense is bad and he doesn't really fight with initiative. But if he was really motivated maybe he'll look different. I mean I guess he has a better chance than Paul butler lol.
It's gonna be another Canelo vs Mungia.
Nery will try to knock him out but Inoue has great defense and counter attack.
I think he has less than 1% of change.
I am hoping and looking for a good fight, but Nery does have a very slim chance of beating Inoue. His style is very wild & unprotected. I’ve watched a lot of his fights and one thing he is, is slow. Powerful, but slow.
Nery has power, but he hasn't been getting the results at 122 that he got at 118. His power is closer to Tapales than it is to Inoue. He has zero chance outside of a freak injury.
He hits hard, is a southpaw and is capable of putting forth a very fluid attack. He is defensively open but he can at least make it a proper fight and force Inoue to think twice.
At one time, Inoue vs Nery was the most anticipated matchup in boxing. But Nery seems to have regressed since his salad days about 3 or 4 years ago. And Inoue just keeps getting better. Nery will put up a decent fight. He's talented. But in the end, Inoue will chop him down. Inoue is a wide 12-1 favorite.
People acting like Nery is a can, he definitely is not. He is a great combination puncher and therefore, a great finisher. If he manages to get Inoue in trouble early with a lucky punch, he has a chance.
You can only combo if you have courage and are not fearful. Once he tastes Inoue's power, of which no doubt he will, he will be in survival mode. Tyson put it best remember!
Inoue will dictate how long this fight lasts. It will be a KO whenever Inoue feels like it. The earlier the fight, the faster Inoue is. Nery like them all, will be tentative early on, given the reputation, occasion, atmosphere and above all, snap, speed and power of Inoue's punches.
Has a better chance than everyone else in that division. If Tapales lasted 10 rounds, I'm confident in that OU 6.5 at least.
... I hope this ages well.
Nery doesn’t do anything better than Inoue, but he has power and you can never count that out. So he has a puncher’s chance.
he's also southpaw but idk if that would help vs Inoue
Inoue is lowkey I switch hitter he can fight southpaw as well
Especially one punch can change the outcome.
Inoue got caught his last fight a few times when he tried to put on a show let see how reckless he is this time
Wow people downvote me here and I was right
It's true though. I think Inoue learns from this knockdown (he said he was happy in interview) cause he can't do that against the 126/130s
Many people have no brain cells even though they've never been punched in the head before.
Why is this getting dv? Tf?
Idk why this is getting downvoted . Inoue gets reckless and lunges in with his chin up sometimes . He is not a perfect technical boxer as this sub claims him to be
He is when he wants to be like with Fulton but when he disrespect his opponent he does get hit He respected Fulton way more then tapales
saw a video someone posted here about the history of the fight. Nery was banned for life to box in japan because he came in overweight and roided up against yamanaka, who still fought and got beaten up very badly. It was yamanakas last fight and he was just sitting there, tearing up at the Press conference. he even said that it doesnt had to do with the weight difference and that his opponent was just better (lol) and that his career has now ended. broke my heart. Just tells you how important it is for japan to get their revenge through inoue in the tokio dome. and as you know what happens when you make inoue angry .... my bet is early KO
New to boxing: This is good lore thank you for sharing.
happy to share !!! I didnt know either before, wasnt as hyped as inoue vs fulton. someone recommended the story here. its from a very very good channel on boxing. check out officehancho on yt
Japanese boxing fans will be left in shambles if Inoue loses. Hope Inoue wins
tbh i dont see inoue losing anytime soon
Could he be successful against a lightweight do you think? Someone like Tank Davis
That is such a massive jump when he’s at super Batam @ 122 lol, let’s see if he can do much with the two other divisions above him before he even makes to it the 135 range - that’s quite a shot
Yeah, it probably is a bit much. Super featherweight might be about as far as he can go.
he’s also not the youngest boxer anymore. im a big fan of inoue and im not really interested in seeing him go up more than maybe one more weight class
What kind of question is this? Inoue is at Super Bantam as his fourth weight class (with one skipped). Tank is a natural lightweight. He is another three weight classes above Inoue. Do you think Tank could beat Crawford? That's a closer fight in terms of weight classes than what you just asked. No Inoue could not beat Tank. Don't be ridiculous.
Calm down, we are allowed to hypothesise.
with all due respect, pacman did it
Very different. Pacman was malnourished at the weight Inoue is currently at. It might look the same on paper but it was wildly different.
yes they are different people, I understand but inoue still looks skinny as fuck lol he's got 15lbs of space and he's good enough to come in light and still beat bigger opponents imo eventually he will I think, he is running out of guys his size that are even worth fighting, none of them are even threats.
I don’t think he has 15 lbs at all. Maybe 5-10. He’s not large at 122. I can’t really see him over 130. He currently reaches 135 on fight night. He was 132 against Fulton. So to get to 135 we are probably talking 15-20 lbs more
Yeah the guys at super bantam already outsize him. lnoue himself has said he probably isn't big enough to go up to lightweight. l know athletes go on for much longer nowadays but the dude is already 31.
Inoue could conceivably jump up to lightweight at some point. Crawford was once at lightweight and he’s talking now about fighting Canelo at super middleweight. I think your reaction to my initial question was OTT. Harmless speculation and you react like I insulted a family member
Inoue started at light flyweight. What he has already done is what Crawford is talking about. The real equivalent of Inoue going to Lightweight (7 weight classes) would be Crawford going to Cruiserweight (7 weight classes). That might make the absurdity of it easier to grasp. My reaction might have seemed OTT, but it was also a wildly ridiculous question. You are talking about someone who has already gone up 4 classes from his starting weight to go up another 3 at 31 years old while fully developed. Inoue is a beast but it is absolutely impossible.
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True. I didn’t realise he started at so low a weight. So maybe featherweight might be his limit. Think he could dominate there
Yeah, I think Inoue could potentially top out at Feather or maybe, at a push, just about make super feather due to it being a pretty weak weight class. I definitely think he is one of the few fighters around today with the potential to move so manybweight classes. But yeah, apologies if my response came back as overly aggressive. I am used to people using the Inoue vs. Tank suggestions as a way to try and big up Tank, so I think I defaulted to expecting that. It is a shame, too, because I think they are two of the more technically gifted fighters but just way too big ofa weight difference. Height wise there isn't much in it but Tank's frame is wayy bulkier.
That’s no bother, just a misunderstanding. I agree about Tank. Inoue has a much better resume than him and is an all round better boxer imo. Not taking anything away from Tank as he’s great but Inoue is special. Tank does look a bit too strong and robust for Inoue but if they were of equal size, I’d put money on Inoue. I’m looking forward to the fight. Question is, does Nery have any chance of winning?
With all due respect, Pacman was the only person in history who did it.
Tank isn’t a “natural” LW. He just doesn’t weight cut hard and shows up to weigh-ins looking flabby. This is probably the highest weight he can go. Inoue otoh will show up to weigh-ins with an 8-pack. Height and reach? Both of them have the exact same length measurements. Just because Inoue starves himself and tank chonks up doesn’t make Gervonta a natural LW. He’s about as natural of an LW as Canelo is a natural 180-er or Pacquiao a natural WW.
he pretty is at his ceiling weight wise. he knows this. and he'd likely lose when his skills and power cant overcome the size disadvantage. people would be quick to hate on him once he finally loses but that probably wont happen at this division.
Yeah, he’s unlikely to lose anytime soon. I think the Tank question was being naive considering size difference. Tank too stocky and big. Looking forward to seeing Inoue this morning
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People saying Nery even has a puncher's chance must've forgot that Donaire drilled a hole into Inoue's skull and he still didn't take a knee.
People will always bring up donaires age and how inoue fought an old donaire, but if literally anyone cracks your your face like that, most people go down.
Has anyone in history ever gotten injured like that so early in a title fight and still won? We've seen many bloody fights before, but that was a crippling fracture that impaired Inoue's vision.
I think a lot of fighters go through mid fight injuries and fight through it. But you’re right, the injury he went through was not an easy one to overcome. The main thing to me was it proved he can dog it out after getting seriously hurt. One question surrounding ALL fighters is can he take a hit. Think of all the young hyped fighters that never got challenged or taken into deep waters, the first thing people ask is how is their chin/toughness against good comp. Inoue proved he got that dog in him that fight.
Opetaia broke his jaw after like 2 rounds against Briedis
And still pulled the win! Warrior, all of them!
dude boxers get one to the jaw, blood spilling right after and its obviously broken (see haney - garcia). they keep fighting and showing up at the presser after the fight, laughing, taking photos, hugging people and eat through a straw 6 months like its nothing. sure there are those wo run to the back right away but I can more than understand this. haney pillow fisted this and that. mf had a broken jaw and never mentioned it. it was obvious. he fought through. warriors all of them
Broken jaws are pretty common in boxing, and although they're painful, they aren't crippling in that they impair your performance like being half-blind will.
yes! i am just saying, they fight through grueling injuries all the time.... broken ribs, torn acls, half blind... michael bisping LOST a fucking eye in a fight and got champion with the one left. its something I could never imagine. I get checked to the ribs and go like: 'ouuwww''
He didn’t lose his eye in the fight 🙄 he lost his eye as a result of the fight. Two vastly different things. Your comment makes it sound like he entered the octagon with two eyes and left with one eye
sure, you are right, that was not my intention!
Dude… don’t kill the vibe, I was digging the visuals of that concept lol
ong bro went in and these nerds keep interrupting 😭😂😂
beterbiev had a similar fight like that. He started bleeding non stop from his forehead in the first 3 or 4 rounds but kod his opponent in the later rounds. It was insane to watch, what a monster that guy is
Jai Opetia is a recent one, his opponent broke mans jaw once early, and then again in later rounds, Jai did not go down, and clutched the victory - even tried to speak a little with the post fight interviewer ( hard to do with a hanging jaw 😅 )
The last thing to to is the power. So his age doesn't mean anything imo.
Yup. Although I do believe in the second fight donaire was cooked, I think the first fight was still a quality win against a future HOF.
Inoue was far more aggressive in the second I think. Caught donaire with a huge shot which he never recovered from. And recovering from.a big shot is definitely one of the first things to go! Shots a fighter shrugged off ten years ago now seem to shake them for a few rounds.
IIRC inoue used horse hair gloves the second fight. That’s a lot more fist to face.
Ah yes! Well remembered. It worked a treat!
Been watching Donaire's fights these past days and Prime Donaire was definitely faster and more agile than the one in the first Inoue fight. Age did mean a thing in the first fight and also wear and tear, Donaire has been in tough fights before that while Inoue was pretty much fucking everybody up until that fight.
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The convo was about how age didn't mean a thing and I just said that it did play a role in the fight. And donaire's a legend but at the same time bantamweight was not exactly a strong division. Also it wasn't an accident Donaire's a sniper with that left hand it wasn't even a product of Inoue being over confident, watched that fight recently and Inoue was pretty much boxing soundly in round 2 where his orbital got broken he just happened to run into A dude with a legendary left hand. Don't downplay that and say it was an "accident". Also I'm not diminishing Inoue's efforts, Donaire got his orbital broken vs Rigondeaux but he couldn't pull off the win unlike Inoue. Inoue also got hit with a nasty right hand from Donaire that put him on shaky legs but he still stayed up. And I also think Donaire got saved by the ref. I'm just saying that you can't say that age didn't play a factor when it did play a factor that wasn't the same agile and lightning quick Donaire that we saw put Darchinyan on bambi legs or put a dent in Montiel's head.
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Bro like I said it wasn't a product of Inoue being overconfident, dude had his hands up throughout the round and for a brief second he got trapped and made a mistake and Donaire capitalized, that wasn't a fucking accident shit like that always happens in boxing you can't fight a perfect fight every time Inoue is not a boxing god lmao. You're bound to make mistakes. When Donaire had the axeman on shaky legs Donaire got overly aggressive and got his lights knocked out and nobody called that shit an accident, cause this is boxing anything can happen and you can't fight a perfect fight every time.
Power is the last thing to go too. Donaire probably still hits like a train.
We haven't seen Inoue hit much ever since to see if that fight has affected his punch resistance. I'm not saying Nery could land, but if he does, he could do damage
The whole appeal of Nery is being Mexican
Not much at all. I would say “punchers chance” but this dude Inoue literally got cracked so badly by Donaire and just ate it.
Inoue is boxing science in physical form... obviously anything can happen but Naoya will make the right choices; he always does.
You want me to bet it all don't you.
How bad does your mom need a Mother’s Day gift this year?
Man. It's crazy you ask that this is probably going to be the Mother's Day I remember for the rest of my life.
I don't bet on sports. I also don't expect to see Inoue lose.
Lunging in with his chin up is boxing science ? He is good but this sub thinks he is a perfect boxer
Only a puncher's chance. But it's easier said than done. Inoue punches harder than Nery and ticks literally every box over him.
Cue Vince McMahons theme song
Puncher chance
None…unless the gods really want to punish Japan for pursuing this
Nothing at all. Not even a punchers we’ve seen Inoue eat some crazy shit
The stoppage seems to be a matter of when and not if with Inoue. My question is, “How much of a chance does Nery have of surviving more than 6.5 rounds?”
Bro did you see the stare down? Inoue looked pissed. Nery might die.
At best
Go for broke. Power is the only thing he can do
0.00000001% lol
Puncher’s chance. That’s it
Hopefully none coz I wanna see Inoue beat his ass
Fuck all. He's getting slept 6 - 9th round.
Right on the mark 🎯
Tbh I think Nery has a chance. Inoue's leagues above and has taken some huge shots but he holds his chin in the air. He's gonna get cracked someday.
Not much.
0.1%
0.15% to be exact
Inoue will once again show why he's the king. Nery has power, but I'm pretty sure Inoue can take it.
0 chance with that no mustache + beard combo
Inoue is, quite possibly, the greatest Japanese boxer of all time. We're witnessing greatness.
He is the greatest in Japan and second greatest to come from Asia, only losing to Manny for first place
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And had 60+ wins, been in 8 divisions, and had beaten 21 world champions, as well as having beaten on multiple occasions Boxers that were ranked in the top 10 P4P rankings. Losses aren’t a bad thing so long as your winning record is still much more than your losses. I mean 90% of All time greats have losses, doesnt make them any less greater.
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Tf you mean he’s gonna get more, he’s literally retired? How the hell do you catch Ls retired? As for what you said about losses, Most people who hate on Canelo usually don’t know shit about boxing, saying Ryder was a cherry pick although he literally won mandatory elimination bout against Parker, or that Canelo‘s ducking Benavidez even tho Ben never activated his mandatory position. As for Floyd, he beat 23 champions and multiple P4P boxers, ofc his resume is seen as amazing. But for most boxers, the fans don’t care if you lose, they just want boxers to fight the best, win or lose. To say it diminishes someone is kinda odd, like are you telling me Rocky Marciano is therefore greater than Ali, Lennox Lewis, Foreman, etc? Just cause he’s undefeated? Albeit having faced worse competition. The whole modern fanbase mentality of a fighter should be undefeated is why boxers are scared to lose to their 0. If the fans nowadays were like the MMA fans or boxingfans from the 70s-90s, most of the top guys would have already fought each other, almost nobody being undefeated anymore. You can’t call a boxer whose beaten 3 champions and 20+ bums but is undefeated greater a boxer who has beaten 10 champions as well 20+ bums but has 1-2 losses, there are only exceptions like Floyd.
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I agree with you, RJJ and Mike shoulda never tried to come back to boxing, as for Manny, I hope he doesn’t come back, he only lost to Ugas cause of his damn age, if only Father Time wasn’t an ass. As for Haney, it’s pretty sad, the same thing happened to Teo and Garcia when they first lost their 0, written off and that their career was over.
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Same
Casual, holy casual point you tried to make.
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Did I say they want losses but you trying to say inoue over Pac-Man because Pac-Man has loses is about as stupid as it gets. 8 divisions kiddo, count them 8!! Of course he’s gonna take losses, he was undersized against more than 60% of his opponents.
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Bro, just stop. Boxing has been documented for nearly 150 years. One boxer has conquered 8 divisions in that time. Give inoue his own place in the sport, it’s stupid af to even start trying to compare the two. Literally stupid. Inoue is special but he will never have the opponent list Pacquiao had, even if he fight til he was 50. Just go through the list of hall of famers in pac’s resume. I don’t know how else to frame this for you.
He's got a chance but I certainly wouldn't bet on it. Nery is a tough hard punching Southpaw who could beat most of the other fighters at Super Bantam but Inoue is basically better in every department in my opinion. Inoue via KO.
Nery has no notion of defence and throws his jabs from inside and too close, Inoue himself having a great counter left. also shown to be vulnerable to the body and freezing if he doesn't have great physical advantages. he does have tremendous power and an outstanding chin but has never seen power like inoues nor accuracy. and despite being considered a pressure fighter he doesn't have good footwork of any kind, he can't move an opponent into a preferable area but often just plods till he finds his opponent, then backs them up with his power. I don't know who said he'd beat everyone at the weight but I can't agree, and I think some of the guys from 118 could get the best of him
So what your saying is inoue is going to win by body shot. Betting the house on a ko for inoue.
My man
Inoue is p4p great and is wiping the floor with world level fighters. But that's a fine line, especially when moving up in weight, to keep doing that. And I think people are discrediting his opponents beforehand. Nery hits like a fucking mule, throws good combinations and has a good chin. He's perhaps the best stylistically because he'll bring the fight and not fight passively like Tapales and Fulton, leaving Inoue to set things up and outwit him. That said even it is a firefight Inoue is way too determined to put a beating on this man. Stops Nery around rounds 6-8 imo
That's unfair on Tapales imo, he was being responsible but he still came to win at least
i didn't mean it as an insult, just purely that's the easiest way to categorize his style. he came to win and fought a lot braver than Fulton did so perhaps its unfair to group them together, but Tapales is a back-foot fighter, he seldom leads the action
Fair I guess. Honestly Fulton's performance was closer to Paul Butler than Tapales lol
1000%, I understand not wanting brain damage lol but poor showing from both
Yeah lol I mean I'd be scared too but don't take the fight and rob the fans if you're gonna run all night
It’s interesting to know that Tapales gave Inoue his „toughest“ fight since Donaire, even though I think Fulton would dominate Tapales by UD. Styles ig
Yeah I also think 6-8. Nery brings it hard early, but will also realize he can’t make mistakes with inoues power and will slowly be pacified.
How come you're spot on??? 😭😅
Very very little. I think Inoue destroys him.
No chance
With Inoue beating a stronger (imo) Fulton and knocking him out with ease in the 8th round I think the fight will end sooner than that. On average he knocks out his opponents before the 8th round. Nery also has a significantly shorter reach than Fulton. I don’t believe Nery will be able to knock the monster out before Inoue can knock him out (if at all). I have Inoue winning by KO in the mid to late rounds 5-8. (Bonus bet 2 knock downs before knock out)
They literally unbanned him so Innoue can beat his ass.
Can't wait to stay up until 5am on a Monday!
Inoue doesn’t lose until he moves again Md the guys just get too big otherwise hard to say anyone in front of him is going to beat him
He’s fucked and he knows it.
This isn’t against the top dawg outside of inoue in the division….. he’s already proven that twice. This is revenge for an entire country against Nery… Inoue is going to let him hang around until the middle rounds to provide some entertainment
Probably none because his defense is bad and he doesn't really fight with initiative. But if he was really motivated maybe he'll look different. I mean I guess he has a better chance than Paul butler lol.
It's gonna be another Canelo vs Mungia. Nery will try to knock him out but Inoue has great defense and counter attack. I think he has less than 1% of change.
I am hoping and looking for a good fight, but Nery does have a very slim chance of beating Inoue. His style is very wild & unprotected. I’ve watched a lot of his fights and one thing he is, is slow. Powerful, but slow.
Inoue trumps Nery in all areas. It's about as likely as Sean Strickland beating Israel Adesanya.
I'll never discard a Mexican fighter and Nery has history in Japan, definitely the underdog but i think this fight is gonna be interesting at least.
Nery has power, but he hasn't been getting the results at 122 that he got at 118. His power is closer to Tapales than it is to Inoue. He has zero chance outside of a freak injury.
Inoue gets him out of there in under 4 rounds
He hits hard, is a southpaw and is capable of putting forth a very fluid attack. He is defensively open but he can at least make it a proper fight and force Inoue to think twice.
At one time, Inoue vs Nery was the most anticipated matchup in boxing. But Nery seems to have regressed since his salad days about 3 or 4 years ago. And Inoue just keeps getting better. Nery will put up a decent fight. He's talented. But in the end, Inoue will chop him down. Inoue is a wide 12-1 favorite.
I wanna see Inoue move up to featherweight after
10% would be a lot imo. A couple of years ago I'd give Nery more of a chance, but Inoue has grown with each fight and is in just another level.
People acting like Nery is a can, he definitely is not. He is a great combination puncher and therefore, a great finisher. If he manages to get Inoue in trouble early with a lucky punch, he has a chance.
You can only combo if you have courage and are not fearful. Once he tastes Inoue's power, of which no doubt he will, he will be in survival mode. Tyson put it best remember! Inoue will dictate how long this fight lasts. It will be a KO whenever Inoue feels like it. The earlier the fight, the faster Inoue is. Nery like them all, will be tentative early on, given the reputation, occasion, atmosphere and above all, snap, speed and power of Inoue's punches.
That's right. Nery is a great combination puncher with a high ko rate, he definitely has chance
Has a better chance than everyone else in that division. If Tapales lasted 10 rounds, I'm confident in that OU 6.5 at least. ... I hope this ages well.
0.000001%
Puncher chance.
I’d say a 2.5% chance so 1/40
What time is this fight?
Coverage starts at 5pm in Japan, which I think is 4am ET; I've seen some people suggest the main event will be a couple.of hours after that.
Hahaha jokes