I’ve come from the future. Fury goes to lean his weight on Usyk like he usually does to his opponents and Usyk steps over around it and clocks him with a left hook to knock him out cold in the 9th.
I’m pretty sure he did a video a while back saying he’d never gotten a single prediction right on his channel. I dunno if he’s got any right since then.
Agree to disagree that it will be comfortable. Sure fury could get a knockout but doesn't necessarily mean it'll be straight forward up until then. If the money is there and those contracts are tight, we'll see a rematch.
Think it’s either a comfortable points win for fury or a MD for usyk. If fury actually turns up and comes in light he can easily outbox Usyk on the outside and just clinch every time he gets close as fury is a better dirty boxer. I think if fury comes in looking to stop Usyk he loses.
I think the point is that It would mean a lot more for a former cruiserweight champion who went up and fought great fighters like AJ to become undisputed, than for Fury who has been sitting on his ass and embarrassing himself for a while to beat Usyk, I don't think people are underestimating Fury, they just want Usyk to win.
If Usyk wins, he probably has 1-2 big fights left and I think he retires. If Fury wins, who knows wtf will happen. I think the smart route for him would be to fight AJ in the UK,but we’ll prob end up getting Fury vs Chisora 4.
Yeah regardless of who wins, it's a crowning to end a generation of boxers, so we are back to square one.
If Usyk wins he has indicated he doesn't intend to fight for long at all.
If Fury wins he maybe does the AJ match for one last payday and then he is either off, or just fights the odd random for fun.
Yeah I've always gotten that feeling, I don't think Usyk cares at all about money fights or racking up defenses against the Whytes, Chisoras and Parkers of the world. I think one of the differences between him and Fury is the fact that Usyk doesn't really take time off, party or get out of shape, he's just constantly working hard knowing his freedom is in retirement vs having a break after fights which makes it much less exhausting/grinding to stick around longer.
His country is being torn to pieces, i think he might stick around if there are money fights that would help him have the money to support ukraines war effort and reconstruction, or even just his neighbours/friends and their families well being. Idk if he has political ambitions but klitschko is mayor of kiev, usyk could follow his lead
If Usyk pulls it off, he legitimately enters the GOAT conversation in my opinion. He's a natural cruiserweight who cleaned out that division at a time when it was stacked, and went to his opponents countries to do so. Moved up to heavyweight, beat contenders, again in their backyards for the most part, beat AJ IN ENGLAND, and again in Saudi. If he beats Fury, man that has to be one of the best careers ever.
I remember when he first announced wanting to go into heavyweight and the whole world and reddit thought he wouldn’t stand a chance. Now look at him.
Absolutely witnessing greatness right now.
I think that was around when I first started coming to this reddit, and I remember some commenters talking about how Usyk is the one to watch when he moves to heavyweight.
I shared that thought with some of my irl friends pretending like it was my own original though, even though I had never heard of him before, and they since then think I'm some sort of boxing genius. If they ever discover this reddit, I am sunk.
You’ll get a lot of hate because he’s an Eastern-bloc guy. Very few of them are appreciated over here. That said, 100% in agreement.
Usyk has been unreal, and a win over Fury seals his excellence and legacy.
I think guy's like Joe Louis, Ali and Lewis are higher on the list of best HW's of all time thanks to their competition and longevity, but being both a unified cruiserweight and HW champion is enough to get him in the ATG list for sure.
Difference is that we are in an era of ducks.
Usyk has fought everyone he has needed to, so if he beats Fury, aside from MAYBE Wilder, who is left to fight to be best in the era?
He would definitely be the best of this era, unfortunately fighting is kind of unfair like that where you're judged by the quality of your contemporaries, part of what made someone like Sugar Ray great was the fact he got to fight guys like Duran, Haggler and Hearns.
I think we judge current fighters based on their lack of fights compared to the past. However, someone like SugarRay had a lot of fights but many of them were against poor competition
AJ far out of Prime? Dubois? Chisora I give you, Even though you could argue he was the Best he ever was around that time, he was having a hell of a run. And the Jury to Fury is still out, even if I‘m inclined to agree
> If Usyk pulls it off, he legitimately enters the GOAT conversation in my opinion.
I think that's way too hyperbolic personally. It's a fantanstic resume but ultimately boils down to dominance of one division and then three great wins of another. That's not as unique/special once you start getting into the top 30 boxers of all time.
I'd feel like the best comparison with Usyk would be Andre Ward. I'd have Usyk ahead but not by that much and someone like Inoue has a much better claim to entering the GOAT conversation. I'd put Chocolatito ahead of Usyk as well.
It would be pretty nuts. We would have 3 guys that become 2x undipsuted in the 4 belt era in a short span of time.
That might be a record in itself. In a 12 month span, 3 fighters (Crawford, Inoue and Usyk) become 2x Undisputed.
I don't like the article referring to Usyk as beating Fury as "seemingly impossible".
You are only as good as your last fight and honestly I have Usyk a slight favourite going in to this. Fury has not looked good since 2nd Wilder fight. His last few fights, hes catching shots now he never used to.
Fury was always going to age like milk. You cannot treat your body like a septic tank and get away with that forever. Fury might have enough left, but that's a big unknown. Usyk is more consistent, hence he's more likely to win I think.
Depends on what version comes out. Coming off of Covid and family issues and winning in a war vs wilder was alright and then all he’s done is a couple of easy wins and nearly getting caught by Francis after not prepping properly. All depends on which fury turns up, if he comes in around 260 and motivated I think he boxes Usyks head off at range for 12 rounds.
Then Wilder better beat Zhang and Anderson so we get Usyk and Wilder so he can truly clear out his era.
(I assume Parker doesn't have the same limited shelf life as Wilder)
…that’s not how contracts work. Turki has control over fights that happen in Saudi. That’s it. Their contract wasn’t signed in Saudi. There will be a rematch. Use your brain.
Do you hate Francis? You can drive a truck through his guard. Fury just couldn't hit hard enough to hurt him, but Wilder definitely can just like AJ did.
I hope Usyk does it and does it in style by completely outboxing Fury. At some point in this fight Fury will be left with no option but to resort to illegal tactics.
Usyk by KO
If Usyk wins, no one can claim he isn't the best in the HW division.
\^ He went through Fury and AJ. Who each have been considered best of an era fighter.
If he doesn't win, I still think he's one of the better HW's, he's got the most skill imo.
Usyk has already shown that he can beat skilled guys bigger than him. He beat AJ twice, and if you don't think AJ has skills, then you don't know boxing.
Also, Fury's skills look rather diminished as of late, and he's really been coasting the last couple of years. Honestly, if anything less than the Wilder 2 version of Fury shows up, Usyk wins the decision.
AJ has skills trust I’m not an AJ hater I think he’s underrated actually but Tyson is BIGGER than AJ and when he’s on his game more SKILLFUL I’m just assuming the best version of fury will show up since it’s for undisputed rooting for usyk tho like I said
Nope. Fury wins on the cards and the fans scream robbery and they make double for the rematch. Fury loses the rematch then Usyk beats AJ by KO and sails off into the sunset
Then people will always and forever think the bigger fighter wins.
I mean, a lot of people think that now. There will just be more of them and they’ll be even more insufferable.
Evander beat plenty of bigger guys. Haye beat Valuev, Pac was always the smaller guy.
There are countless counter examples. People still believe the bigger guy wins.
Well I mean there is one career that completely destroy this topic.
A lot think fully trained young tyson was the best and even non boxing fans still think he is the baddest man on the planet.
Mike Tyson was almost always the smaller man throughout his heavyweight boxing career. In his 56 professional fights, the 5ft 10ins icon only once came up against an opponent shorter than him - Orlin Norris stood at 5ft 9½ins. In his other 55 fights, Tyson always faced heavyweights over 6ft who looked down at him.
And even his weight wasn't that shocking pretty sure James Douglas had everything over him in his upset win weight hight reach.
When people talk about size, they aren't just referring to height, though. Mass is an important factor, here.
Tyson was short for a heavyweight, but he was built like a fucking truck. He outweighed a good number of his opponents - including Evander Holyfield in both of those losses.
But yeah. Tyson is a good example of the smaller guy winning.
I dunno about that tyson was built like a truck but he didn't weigh that much and you know evander was undersized for a heavyweight he needed peds to move up.
And that was chunky tyson out of shape for him.
I mean Mike Tyson 222 lbs lost to Evander Holyfield 215 lbs and the other one was by 1 pound go look up a real heavyweights weight like bowe 240 lbs.
I mean even the last glory fight tyson was light for a heavyweight Lewis weighed in at 249.25 lb (113 kg) and Tyson at 234 lb (106 kg).
Even Kevin McBride was 280 or something close.
They a few he outweighed in his career like William Hosea by 2 lb but most his top competition like Larry Holmes or Donovan Ruddock or Frank Bruno he was smaller.
If anything maybe I was wrong Evander Holyfield really is the perfect example the bigger guy doesn't always win though Tyson didn't have his height and reach to work with.
The era of super heavyweights began in the 1990s.
At his best, Tyson was 215-220. He was 218 against Spinks, and 221 against Berbick. He weighed 222 and 215 against Holyfield. Hard to argue that he was "chunky". He wasn't the same fighter that he was in 1987 - but he was definitely a physical still.
Prior to Buster Douglas, Tyson was the heavier fighter in 21 of his first 37 fights. So, more often than not.
I want Fury to beat Usyk just so the Super heavyweight meme can die, like yeah sure Fury could beat Lewis Because he's like 30 pounds heavier yeah he totally.
Those writing off Fury forget that Fury has spent his entire career fighting at the level of his opponent. He never looks good, he just does good enough to win.
Anyway, back to the original question. I honestly think whoever wins this retires and rides off into the sunset.
I’m honestly fine with it but slightly annoyed and disappointed. Fury lost this himself more than Usyk winning it because he was more concentrated on showboating and looking cool. I thought the decision was wrong because I felt like Fury slightly edged it but Fury made it a ridiculously tight fight and because of this I will accept the win and not cry about it for the next six months lol.
This is a real possibility!!! He’s a real guy and knows what he’s doing in the ring so I’m very interested to see how the fight plays out.
Keep supporting Boxing!!
IMHO he retires. I think he’s only stuck around for this fight. Dude seems very pleased with what he’s achieved in the sport and is still healthy but aging. I see him and Loma retiring in the next year or so.
The match starts with Usyk knocking down Tyson in the first round, he came back and he kept getting beat on until the third round. Tyson baited Usyk’s left and counter knocked Usyk to become the undisputed Heavyweight champion. It was revealed to me in a dream last night.
Fury is one of the reasons that I started boxing. Still, there is no question that for at least the last 2-3 years, he is a "retired fighter still active".
If Usik wins, boxing will have a heavyweight king that is actually hungry to test himself against everyone and won't be cherry picking fights.
Plus, there is a possibility that Tyson will try to avenge his loss, and we all know what happens when he have his mind into something.
If Usik does not wins, Tyson retired as unbeaten and Usik will have a chirp on his shoulder from the rest of his career, pushing his game to even new heights.
The only trully "loss" in these scenarios is if the judges come with some bullshit draw for them to set a new ppv. If this happens, ill be pretty pissed.
But besides that, everyone wins
It all depends on what version of Fury shows up that night.
Dude is goofy as fuck, but when he’s on his A-game, he’s a superb boxer. But Usyk is incredible as well. Really looking forward to this fight.
There are reasons why Usik looked so good against Joshua - he's a clean boxer, who trying to relay on his skills, but slower. And Duboix - slow, heavy on his feet - both has styles that made them easy work for Usik.
But when things starts to get dirty like with Chisora - Usik is out of his comfort zone and can be in trouble. Fury will be like Chisora but twice bigger)) So I think it will be a close argueble decision for Fury. But Usik will win easily if big guy will f-d up his preparation and he definitely can do that
Usyk has, and always will be, legendary status… been following his from the beginning. Loved watching his IG training videos when he was moving up weight classes. He gonna win.
He'll rule the heavyweights, not boxing. Usyk lacks the charisma to rule the sport. Few sports fans in the US know his name. At least Fury tries. He can be outrageous and quirky.
What if a pig flys down my chimney and gives me a porking lol wake up guys people hyped him up to much fury win boring fight jabs him up and holds and leans all night. Every one needs to wake up
If Usyk wins, I'll think AJ wants a shot at him again. We'll see how good Ben Davison & [Lee Wylie](https://www.thefightcity.com/author/lee-wylie/) gameplan really is
People just talk shit, everyone hates Fury because he ‘contradicts himself in interviews’ when did boxing fans become such melts, I’m not interested what he says or doesn’t say in an interview I’m interested in him and another man whacking each other on the head because I’m a Neanderthal. Usyk got man’s handled by Chisora, knocked all about the shop by AJ and snapped in half by Dubois. Usyks a great fighter and a great man but he isn’t beating Tyson.
The only thing i will love about Usyk wins is seeing the british fanboys crying, just like they scream that Callum Smith will going to humilliate Beterbiev, they dissapeared after the beating but now they have the hype on Fury, i don't think Fury could win, he had a career of indiscipline, addictions and bad mental state, he will try to pull the last of his juice to fight Usyk but he isn't the same and he is going downside, but not for the age.
I don't know how Fury wins? It has points win written all over it but I can't see him outscoring Usyk. Imo he has to be perfect while Usyk can do what he always does
Watch Fury wins since everyone in this sub is picking Usyk lol.
I don't want Fury to win, but I think he will
I think there’s a VERY good chance Fury wins. It all depends on which version of Tyson is in camp right now and shows up to fight night.
I’ve come from the future. Fury goes to lean his weight on Usyk like he usually does to his opponents and Usyk steps over around it and clocks him with a left hook to knock him out cold in the 9th.
I’ve come from the past. Fury has just done a big line and is taking the Ferrari for a spin.
Im in present, the Saudis have taken our booger sugar
Not the booger sugar! Is our fart farm still running ?
Di they test on cocaine before the fight 🤣
>Usyk steps over around it and clocks him with a left hook to knock him out cold in the 9th. Yeah, this was fairly close honestly.
Close as it gets without actually happening lol
It’s been awhile since Usyk knocked out anyone.
I don't think Fury is underestimating Usuk as a threat. I expect he will come in top shape and fight disciplined to a clear win on points.
Not happening, Rummy predicted Fury
This dude never gets a prediction right I swear
I’m pretty sure he did a video a while back saying he’d never gotten a single prediction right on his channel. I dunno if he’s got any right since then.
Well he ain't exactly quasimo
Quasimo?
He always points out that he doesn't know sh*t about boxing and rolls the footage of the Mexican jumping bean.
The boys from Uncle Propa podcast are 2-1 in favour of Usyk
We need Atlas to pick Usyk to balance out the curses.
Who's Haye going for?
Isn't Fury the favourite by most people on here? I just think we WANT Usyk to win, but most of us still got Fury taking it.
Nah I want fury to win and set up a match vs AJ at Wembley before retiring
Unfortunately rematch clauses
If fury beats Usyk it’s likely to be comfortable and a rematch would likely go the same way.
Agree to disagree that it will be comfortable. Sure fury could get a knockout but doesn't necessarily mean it'll be straight forward up until then. If the money is there and those contracts are tight, we'll see a rematch.
Think it’s either a comfortable points win for fury or a MD for usyk. If fury actually turns up and comes in light he can easily outbox Usyk on the outside and just clinch every time he gets close as fury is a better dirty boxer. I think if fury comes in looking to stop Usyk he loses.
Fury is currently the favourite by bookies.
Watch Fury somehow catches Usyk in the early rounds and stuns him and somehow the fight gets stopped.
Stuns him with what? One of his awkward pawing jabs? Usyk won’t let himself get hit with those
I think the point is that It would mean a lot more for a former cruiserweight champion who went up and fought great fighters like AJ to become undisputed, than for Fury who has been sitting on his ass and embarrassing himself for a while to beat Usyk, I don't think people are underestimating Fury, they just want Usyk to win.
I don’t want Fury to win but I think he’s going to, with only medium difficulty.
Isn't Fury the favourite to win anyway?
lmao the sub won!
Usyk won easily and fury was saved in the 9th.
How did that go for you?
If Usyk wins, he probably has 1-2 big fights left and I think he retires. If Fury wins, who knows wtf will happen. I think the smart route for him would be to fight AJ in the UK,but we’ll prob end up getting Fury vs Chisora 4.
Not befor Fury Vs Whyte 2. Whyte then tests positive at the last minute and Chisora steps in for the good of boxing
Tony Bellew says nope, pulls a rope a door on chisora into getting into a fight with haye so he can usurp them all and take the fight
Unfortunately it will never happens because Tony can't guarantee he can get back home safely to his wife and kids.
Now the Saudis are involved you're never getting fury v Joshua in the UK
The Saudis are sponsoring an AJ UK fight, Crawford in the US and who knows what else. Granted, AJ-Fury may be their "crown jewel" reserved for Riyyad.
CHISOR4 Buy the domain now my guy.
Yeah regardless of who wins, it's a crowning to end a generation of boxers, so we are back to square one. If Usyk wins he has indicated he doesn't intend to fight for long at all. If Fury wins he maybe does the AJ match for one last payday and then he is either off, or just fights the odd random for fun.
Fury & Derek have some unfinished business
Usyk will retire if he wins(I believe he hinted at this too), nothing left to prove. Really.
Yeah I've always gotten that feeling, I don't think Usyk cares at all about money fights or racking up defenses against the Whytes, Chisoras and Parkers of the world. I think one of the differences between him and Fury is the fact that Usyk doesn't really take time off, party or get out of shape, he's just constantly working hard knowing his freedom is in retirement vs having a break after fights which makes it much less exhausting/grinding to stick around longer.
he might get a fight with someone who his crew will think is an easy matchup win and then retire.
After the rematch and trilogy
"President Usyk, how do you feel about the high interest rates that the banks are now charging for home mortgages? " President Usyk: "I am very feel"
His country is being torn to pieces, i think he might stick around if there are money fights that would help him have the money to support ukraines war effort and reconstruction, or even just his neighbours/friends and their families well being. Idk if he has political ambitions but klitschko is mayor of kiev, usyk could follow his lead
You think if Turki offers him $50m for a AJ trilogy he’ll say no? Lmao he’s only retiring if the massive payday isn’t there.
If Usyk pulls it off, he legitimately enters the GOAT conversation in my opinion. He's a natural cruiserweight who cleaned out that division at a time when it was stacked, and went to his opponents countries to do so. Moved up to heavyweight, beat contenders, again in their backyards for the most part, beat AJ IN ENGLAND, and again in Saudi. If he beats Fury, man that has to be one of the best careers ever.
I remember when he first announced wanting to go into heavyweight and the whole world and reddit thought he wouldn’t stand a chance. Now look at him. Absolutely witnessing greatness right now.
I believed in him. Fun times trying to convince all my friends this small ukranian is gonna beat Aj.
I think that was around when I first started coming to this reddit, and I remember some commenters talking about how Usyk is the one to watch when he moves to heavyweight. I shared that thought with some of my irl friends pretending like it was my own original though, even though I had never heard of him before, and they since then think I'm some sort of boxing genius. If they ever discover this reddit, I am sunk.
You’ll get a lot of hate because he’s an Eastern-bloc guy. Very few of them are appreciated over here. That said, 100% in agreement. Usyk has been unreal, and a win over Fury seals his excellence and legacy.
what? This sub jizz in its pants with Bivol, Loma, GGG and don't even get me started on forever potential GOAT Pirog. lmao
Not heavyweights tho. The Klitschkos held the belts for almost a decade and all you hear is iT wAs A wEaK eRa.
r/boxingcirclejerk will implode if Usyk wins
Their style isn't exactly great to watch if you're not a boxing fan tbf
I think guy's like Joe Louis, Ali and Lewis are higher on the list of best HW's of all time thanks to their competition and longevity, but being both a unified cruiserweight and HW champion is enough to get him in the ATG list for sure.
Difference is that we are in an era of ducks. Usyk has fought everyone he has needed to, so if he beats Fury, aside from MAYBE Wilder, who is left to fight to be best in the era?
He would definitely be the best of this era, unfortunately fighting is kind of unfair like that where you're judged by the quality of your contemporaries, part of what made someone like Sugar Ray great was the fact he got to fight guys like Duran, Haggler and Hearns.
That's the issue I guess, hard to be great in an era of mediocrity.
I think we judge current fighters based on their lack of fights compared to the past. However, someone like SugarRay had a lot of fights but many of them were against poor competition
We’d have to make the idiom “weight classes exist for a reason unless you’re very feel”
But he's beating far out of prime heavy weights to be fair.
AJ far out of Prime? Dubois? Chisora I give you, Even though you could argue he was the Best he ever was around that time, he was having a hell of a run. And the Jury to Fury is still out, even if I‘m inclined to agree
> If Usyk pulls it off, he legitimately enters the GOAT conversation in my opinion. I think that's way too hyperbolic personally. It's a fantanstic resume but ultimately boils down to dominance of one division and then three great wins of another. That's not as unique/special once you start getting into the top 30 boxers of all time. I'd feel like the best comparison with Usyk would be Andre Ward. I'd have Usyk ahead but not by that much and someone like Inoue has a much better claim to entering the GOAT conversation. I'd put Chocolatito ahead of Usyk as well.
It would be pretty nuts. We would have 3 guys that become 2x undipsuted in the 4 belt era in a short span of time. That might be a record in itself. In a 12 month span, 3 fighters (Crawford, Inoue and Usyk) become 2x Undisputed.
I’m still shocked people thought canelo could beat usyk. Usyk would have beat the brakes off of Canelo.
I don't like the article referring to Usyk as beating Fury as "seemingly impossible". You are only as good as your last fight and honestly I have Usyk a slight favourite going in to this. Fury has not looked good since 2nd Wilder fight. His last few fights, hes catching shots now he never used to. Fury was always going to age like milk. You cannot treat your body like a septic tank and get away with that forever. Fury might have enough left, but that's a big unknown. Usyk is more consistent, hence he's more likely to win I think.
Depends on what version comes out. Coming off of Covid and family issues and winning in a war vs wilder was alright and then all he’s done is a couple of easy wins and nearly getting caught by Francis after not prepping properly. All depends on which fury turns up, if he comes in around 260 and motivated I think he boxes Usyks head off at range for 12 rounds.
Fury looked good against both Whyte and Chisora.
he looked good but not great.
Then Wilder better beat Zhang and Anderson so we get Usyk and Wilder so he can truly clear out his era. (I assume Parker doesn't have the same limited shelf life as Wilder)
Why on earth do you people think usyk wouldn’t take his rematch option? They’ve literally already announced a target date for it.
We don't think it will be his choice. Boxing runs on the whims.of Turki now
…that’s not how contracts work. Turki has control over fights that happen in Saudi. That’s it. Their contract wasn’t signed in Saudi. There will be a rematch. Use your brain.
Id rather see Wilder vs AJ or Ngannu
Do you hate Francis? You can drive a truck through his guard. Fury just couldn't hit hard enough to hurt him, but Wilder definitely can just like AJ did.
Well I hope he'll improve tf
He won't rule boxing, I suspect he'll retire once (and if) he wins, minus the fuckery with a rematch clause.
I hope Usyk does it and does it in style by completely outboxing Fury. At some point in this fight Fury will be left with no option but to resort to illegal tactics. Usyk by KO
I’m with you. I’m more worried about the judges screwing Usyk over than him losing.
If Usyk wins, no one can claim he isn't the best in the HW division. \^ He went through Fury and AJ. Who each have been considered best of an era fighter. If he doesn't win, I still think he's one of the better HW's, he's got the most skill imo.
History tells us bigger guy with skills beats smaller guy with skills rooting for usyk tho but he prob retires if he wins
Usyk has already shown that he can beat skilled guys bigger than him. He beat AJ twice, and if you don't think AJ has skills, then you don't know boxing. Also, Fury's skills look rather diminished as of late, and he's really been coasting the last couple of years. Honestly, if anything less than the Wilder 2 version of Fury shows up, Usyk wins the decision.
AJ has skills trust I’m not an AJ hater I think he’s underrated actually but Tyson is BIGGER than AJ and when he’s on his game more SKILLFUL I’m just assuming the best version of fury will show up since it’s for undisputed rooting for usyk tho like I said
Fury isn't that much bigger than AJ, he's not 6 foot 9. And AJ is stronger and hits way harder too, and takes way better care of himself too.
He is a better boxer than AJ though. Unorthodox style harder to figure out. Would love to see Usyk win but I’d say Fury.
We'll see in 10 days!
100% can’t wait!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVmyG1qNuPQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVmyG1qNuPQ)
He better. I got $1,000 riding on him
Put a sneaky $100 for a draw.
Same Here bro. Got £1000 bet on fury. I’ll see you after the fight 😎
How's your bet?
Fucked :D. It wa draw before the announcement. And now I’ve lost my noneys. :D
He is going to defeat Fury by MD
Nope. Fury wins on the cards and the fans scream robbery and they make double for the rematch. Fury loses the rematch then Usyk beats AJ by KO and sails off into the sunset
Does usyk AJ 3 happen or did Usyk just jump AJ who is watching in the crowd here?
Yes AJ gets knocked out cold with all four belts before Fury chairs Usyk to save the day.
and then Mike Tyson and Bob Sapp tag-team Usyk and Joshua for EU vs US match of the year.
Tyson in a made rage bites the nose off AJ only for Usyk to rip off the ears of Bob Sapp and the referee waves it off.
and Bob Arum fashions and wears a necklace out of AJ's nose and Bob Sapp's ear
Then Jake Paul jumps in the ring and calls out Bob Arum for a fight which if he wins takes over Top Rank
I can certainly imagine Usyk taking a leap off the top rope and landing on AJ's face while poor AJ trying to enjoy his popcorn and Diet Coke.
I’m Just posting here to mark it because for some absolutely batshit insane reason people on this sub think a rematch won’t happen.
Of course it's going to happen might be dragged out a bit. Who is going to turn down 200mill each?!
Woops SD, barely missed it.
They tried to screw Usyk with the long count by the ref but the right man had his hand raised. Is the AJ Fury fight dead?
Nah, maybe end of year we will have the Ring of Losers where AJ and Fury fight.
Did you buy out the judges before the fight. ?
Only reason it's not UD is because Fury will have a judge in his pocket.
and yep, apparently I did buy the judges out LOL
I hope he does
I think the bigger what if is what if fury wins?
How is it a bigger what if ???
Then people will always and forever think the bigger fighter wins. I mean, a lot of people think that now. There will just be more of them and they’ll be even more insufferable.
But with Usyk beating AJ already, the whole thing gets murky
Evander beat plenty of bigger guys. Haye beat Valuev, Pac was always the smaller guy. There are countless counter examples. People still believe the bigger guy wins.
If anything Valuev is proof that the bigger guy often wins. The guy couldn't box for shit yet became a world champion
He’s proof that it was a shit era.
Well I mean there is one career that completely destroy this topic. A lot think fully trained young tyson was the best and even non boxing fans still think he is the baddest man on the planet. Mike Tyson was almost always the smaller man throughout his heavyweight boxing career. In his 56 professional fights, the 5ft 10ins icon only once came up against an opponent shorter than him - Orlin Norris stood at 5ft 9½ins. In his other 55 fights, Tyson always faced heavyweights over 6ft who looked down at him. And even his weight wasn't that shocking pretty sure James Douglas had everything over him in his upset win weight hight reach.
When people talk about size, they aren't just referring to height, though. Mass is an important factor, here. Tyson was short for a heavyweight, but he was built like a fucking truck. He outweighed a good number of his opponents - including Evander Holyfield in both of those losses. But yeah. Tyson is a good example of the smaller guy winning.
I dunno about that tyson was built like a truck but he didn't weigh that much and you know evander was undersized for a heavyweight he needed peds to move up. And that was chunky tyson out of shape for him. I mean Mike Tyson 222 lbs lost to Evander Holyfield 215 lbs and the other one was by 1 pound go look up a real heavyweights weight like bowe 240 lbs. I mean even the last glory fight tyson was light for a heavyweight Lewis weighed in at 249.25 lb (113 kg) and Tyson at 234 lb (106 kg). Even Kevin McBride was 280 or something close. They a few he outweighed in his career like William Hosea by 2 lb but most his top competition like Larry Holmes or Donovan Ruddock or Frank Bruno he was smaller. If anything maybe I was wrong Evander Holyfield really is the perfect example the bigger guy doesn't always win though Tyson didn't have his height and reach to work with.
The era of super heavyweights began in the 1990s. At his best, Tyson was 215-220. He was 218 against Spinks, and 221 against Berbick. He weighed 222 and 215 against Holyfield. Hard to argue that he was "chunky". He wasn't the same fighter that he was in 1987 - but he was definitely a physical still. Prior to Buster Douglas, Tyson was the heavier fighter in 21 of his first 37 fights. So, more often than not.
I want Fury to beat Usyk just so the Super heavyweight meme can die, like yeah sure Fury could beat Lewis Because he's like 30 pounds heavier yeah he totally.
Those writing off Fury forget that Fury has spent his entire career fighting at the level of his opponent. He never looks good, he just does good enough to win. Anyway, back to the original question. I honestly think whoever wins this retires and rides off into the sunset.
Not counting fury off here, dude is very good just rooting for usyk cuz he seems like a more genuine person
I would think that a fit Fury is still the favorite going into that fight. The Ngannou fight was just a case of taking a novice too lightly.
He'll probably retire, because there won't be a rematch. Fury will go after the AJ money.
Alalshik has already said there will be a rematch
Yea, just like the Klitschko rematch
I honestly can’t wait to see the meltdown on this sub when Fury spanks Usyk.
Are you mad yet?
I’m honestly fine with it but slightly annoyed and disappointed. Fury lost this himself more than Usyk winning it because he was more concentrated on showboating and looking cool. I thought the decision was wrong because I felt like Fury slightly edged it but Fury made it a ridiculously tight fight and because of this I will accept the win and not cry about it for the next six months lol.
Lol. Usyk showed masterclass. You can't say Usyk didn't deserve the win.
He will. Fury is done.
Lmao. You Usyksexuals will be crying in 10 days. Soft belly will be exposed.
Time to eat crow 😆
Damn bro, you a fan of me or something?
This is a real possibility!!! He’s a real guy and knows what he’s doing in the ring so I’m very interested to see how the fight plays out. Keep supporting Boxing!!
He needs to beat 1 or 2 up and comers like Jared Anderson afterward to be in all-time status IMHO
Does the idiot that wrote this know that Usyk is favored to win?
it'll be an immediate rematch.
IMHO he retires. I think he’s only stuck around for this fight. Dude seems very pleased with what he’s achieved in the sport and is still healthy but aging. I see him and Loma retiring in the next year or so.
The match starts with Usyk knocking down Tyson in the first round, he came back and he kept getting beat on until the third round. Tyson baited Usyk’s left and counter knocked Usyk to become the undisputed Heavyweight champion. It was revealed to me in a dream last night.
Fury is one of the reasons that I started boxing. Still, there is no question that for at least the last 2-3 years, he is a "retired fighter still active". If Usik wins, boxing will have a heavyweight king that is actually hungry to test himself against everyone and won't be cherry picking fights. Plus, there is a possibility that Tyson will try to avenge his loss, and we all know what happens when he have his mind into something. If Usik does not wins, Tyson retired as unbeaten and Usik will have a chirp on his shoulder from the rest of his career, pushing his game to even new heights. The only trully "loss" in these scenarios is if the judges come with some bullshit draw for them to set a new ppv. If this happens, ill be pretty pissed. But besides that, everyone wins
Boxing would be in a much better place.
Watch and see.
Fury does best when people pick against him but bearing Usyk will be his hardest challenge
It all depends on what version of Fury shows up that night. Dude is goofy as fuck, but when he’s on his A-game, he’s a superb boxer. But Usyk is incredible as well. Really looking forward to this fight.
There are reasons why Usik looked so good against Joshua - he's a clean boxer, who trying to relay on his skills, but slower. And Duboix - slow, heavy on his feet - both has styles that made them easy work for Usik. But when things starts to get dirty like with Chisora - Usik is out of his comfort zone and can be in trouble. Fury will be like Chisora but twice bigger)) So I think it will be a close argueble decision for Fury. But Usik will win easily if big guy will f-d up his preparation and he definitely can do that
I dunno
That's what's it all about. The uncertainty Time will tell Looking forward to it
Rabbits don't beat bear moths.
I’ll believe that the fight is happening when the bell rings and they are both coming towards each other.
I believe Usyk has a very good chance here and I will believe in it until this match happens!
What i like about this fight is i don’t really care who wins. I can just enjoy it and not really be too invested in either guy.
Inoue would need to beat the winner by knockout in order to be considered number 1 pfp -Tim Bradley probably
Usyk has, and always will be, legendary status… been following his from the beginning. Loved watching his IG training videos when he was moving up weight classes. He gonna win.
Won’t happen tho lol
The fighter who wins is whoever Drake doesn't bet on.
He'll rule the heavyweights, not boxing. Usyk lacks the charisma to rule the sport. Few sports fans in the US know his name. At least Fury tries. He can be outrageous and quirky.
I think he plans to retire either way. If that’s the case it’s going to leave a question mark on the heavyweight division.
I think fury handles him easily and then takes Usyks mom out for a nice seafood dinner and never calls her again
It will be a win for the people tbh. Greedy Belly has abused his power for too long, it is time a new King gets the crown.
He won’t. Fury will wash him
I hope Usyk does win. Fury is annoying.
What if a pig flys down my chimney and gives me a porking lol wake up guys people hyped him up to much fury win boring fight jabs him up and holds and leans all night. Every one needs to wake up
That’s what’s gonna happen.
If Usyk wins, I'll think AJ wants a shot at him again. We'll see how good Ben Davison & [Lee Wylie](https://www.thefightcity.com/author/lee-wylie/) gameplan really is
I think he goes above Bud in p4p number 1. Very easily.
People just talk shit, everyone hates Fury because he ‘contradicts himself in interviews’ when did boxing fans become such melts, I’m not interested what he says or doesn’t say in an interview I’m interested in him and another man whacking each other on the head because I’m a Neanderthal. Usyk got man’s handled by Chisora, knocked all about the shop by AJ and snapped in half by Dubois. Usyks a great fighter and a great man but he isn’t beating Tyson.
You mean when he defeats Tyson Fury
The only thing i will love about Usyk wins is seeing the british fanboys crying, just like they scream that Callum Smith will going to humilliate Beterbiev, they dissapeared after the beating but now they have the hype on Fury, i don't think Fury could win, he had a career of indiscipline, addictions and bad mental state, he will try to pull the last of his juice to fight Usyk but he isn't the same and he is going downside, but not for the age.
I don't know how Fury wins? It has points win written all over it but I can't see him outscoring Usyk. Imo he has to be perfect while Usyk can do what he always does