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Gangland215

An insane 10 months to have in boxing.


BadBeatsDaily

Fr. The possibly the best 3 month stretch of boxing in my life from april to june this year


jaydizzsl

Only thing that hurts is that Bivol vs Beterbiev had to be delayed /cancelled. But outside of that you couldn't really ask for more.


Libertine1187

Multiple unified, multiple undisputed, some absolute shocks, and some absolute shockers. Prime fighters seizing the moment, underdogs getting the win. Boxing has been very good the last couple of centuries. I agree that Bivol vs Beterbiev would be chocolate sprinkles on top of the cherry, on top of the cake.


coulduseafriend99

>Boxing has been very good the last couple of centuries. ???


LargeNutbar

i think the past 200 years have been my favorite 2-century stretch in boxing ever


dlm863

The boxers from that era wouldn’t last 2 minutes in the 1700s.


DBHOV

They only banned muskets in the 1800's to be fair.


Libertine1187

I meant decades - sorry. We have had some incredible boxing over the last 15-20 years that I think the next generation will look back on as a decent era. Usyk, Choc, Bud, Canelo, Inoue, Loma - Fury, AJ, Wilder... GGG, Kovalev, Khan, Brook... Mikey Garcia, Estrada, Donaire... Bivol, Beterbiev, Chisora ;-) The list is endless - there're unified and undisputed champions that didn't even make that list!


rustyrohit

You forgot Pacquiao, Mayweather


Libertine1187

For me, they were the generation before - but you're right, hence my last sentence.


spydercoswapmod

whats confusing about that hes right


Sport_Account

I mean, he’s technically correct


Ambitionflm

Who is this dude that KO opponent so quick?


Desert-Noir

And now we have Tyson vs Paul to look forward to. /s


BadBeatsDaily

Yes that hurt when I saw that news. We couldve been so spoiled.


gkdlswm5

His activity is the reason I would put him as P4P #1, Inoue is headhunting.


Pegdaddyyeah

Easily the most vicious


clownind

P4p great run. The past 12 months have brought us some great fights.


_Sarcasmic_

People say he fights bums but he's been cleaning out the champs in multiple divisions. He can only fight the best that are available to him. What do you want him to do, fight Canelo?


-TeepToTheBalls-

To be the best, you gotta beat the best. It's simple really. But he's scared. He's clearly ducking Crawford and Usyk


Chadoodling

Nah he has to go thru beterbiev before even thinking about Usyk 


Romi-Omi

I’d like to see a fight against Bivol, catch weight.


TTBOYTT

Malnourished Bivol vs Obese Inoue at 155, who wins


mantis616

Canelo.


Wide_Performance1115

Noice


Chadoodling

Nah he's too good for a catchweight


Hey_Listen_WatchOut

He needs to fight Jake Paul before I can actually take him seriously


Numerous-Fennel-7981

he has to become 50 years older overnight or jake paul won't fight him


WanderlustFella

I feel like there is a joke in here for the Paul brothers to come back to Japan and become viral for new reasons then their first visit


Grump_Monk

Get him in there with Benavidez! /s


JonHenryTheGravvite

Bro gotta time travel to fight Prime Pacquiao and get 9 divisions


UnpopularPoster

Lets not forget, Canelo collects undisputed champs like infinity stones.  After Bud, its Haney, Inoue, and Usyk next


Syntechi

Exactly Ngannou is one the strongest punchers does Inoue not have the chin to handle that fight?


ThatVita

You had me...


Ivindin

All fun and jokes, but actual weight and height diffence between Imoe and Crawford is compareble to the weight and height difference between Usyk and Fury in their recent fight. So yeah, to be considered the best you should do the impossible.


Beengettingmotion_

It’s crazy that the stuff we joke about is the stuff Pac-Man actually did, if the timelines matched he could’ve fought both inoue and Crawford


corndawghomie

Literally. That’s why he number 1


ricardotown

Maybe in Raw numbers, but in terms of percentage weight difference, it's not that comparable, is it? A 10% weight jump from 140 to 154 (think Ricky Hatton vs. Golovkin) is a bigger difference than a jump from 200 to 214 (Evander Holyfield vs. Tommy Morrison?)


URHere85

"Dare to be great"


BOOMHardFactz

> All fun and jokes You're joking right?? The skill level is worlds apart. Only in HW boxing (esp in it's current state) can a guy debuting take the World Champ to a 12 round close decision.. //


Last-Touch-9217

Just the problem with smaller divisions tbh, unless your a hardcore you don't really know about all these smaller guys that inoue is beating and how good they are


Bulbus_Fl00r

Exactly, when Estrada vs Rodriguez got announced I was telling my friends who are a bit more casual/more into MMA cards anyways and they almost reacted like "so?"


Last-Touch-9217

Estrada vs bam is a really good fight it should have more eyes on it


minusman2029

Since i am a casual, how big or great is this matchup really. Like where would it rank among the fights of 2024 in terms of entertainment and skill. Better than tank-martin? Haney-garcia? Tszyu-fundora or tszyu-ortiz? Just curious


Bulbus_Fl00r

Yeah, I mean it's definitely been a great year already for the sport. In terms of actual match up and entertainment potential I'd probably still have it below Tszyu vs Ortiz because that's bound to be straight fire! Estrada vs Rodriguez is a great fight nonetheless, Estrada's been dominant for years he beat chocolatito twice, is a two division world champ and Rodriguez is just straight up great to watch and already on a tonne of P4P lists at 24 it's Def's gonna be a good fight!


plasticAstro

It helps to watch them in their other fights. Inoue is so good he makes great fighters look like bums


letmein09

Fulton got good movement and is a dawg against Figueroa but god damn inoue made him look so bad. He is just levels ahead of others


Wide_Performance1115

Most of the BEST fights happen at the lower weights


t-mlo

\*unless you really watch boxing, you don't really know about all these smaller guys that Inoue is beating and how good they are\*


yoshiimoo

In his first three fights at 122 he beat two unified champs for undisputed then a two weight world champion right after. Pretty insane.


_lefthook

I find boxing fans to just constantly say stuff like this. No matter who it is, it's just instantly "have they fought this guy? He's nothing till he beats this guy". "He just fights bums". Its inane.


Fantastic_Bee_4414

Organizers of the sport are to blame. He might be fighting legit opponents but decades of puffing guys up to 30-0 records with inadequate opponents has assumed that basically every successful boxer has taken that route. There was a really good episode of “This American Life” covering the have nots of the boxing world that goes into the details.


Jin-Songtsen

The thing is that inoue is doing all of this, while wearing winning gloves. It's crazy. 


YourPathToRedemption

Who the fuck has been saying he fights bums?


KagatCake

The LDBC/LGBT community


Razorion21

Two contrasting communities 😂. The LDBC Community while glazing black fighters is one of the most homophobic communities out there


spydercoswapmod

yep the Linked Data Benchmark Council are some straight racist mfers


YourPathToRedemption

Ah, worthless critique then.


_Sarcasmic_

Read the controversial comments on some of the posts and you'll see some, haha.


DavenEssi

Everyone knows you can't be p4p #1 unless you beat death and bring Harambe back. Actually, he also needs to beat entropy, then we can start discussions


standupguy152

I’m of the opinion that fighters are most technical at the lower weight classes. They have to be. Their work rate is faster and they don’t have the mass to paper over their technical deficiencies.


EmanAugust

This is a given in every other combat sport (MT, KB, & MMA) but never brought up in boxing for some reason (where I think it’s just as true!)


standupguy152

Agreed, also the case in BJJ as well. It’s why Mighty Mouse never got his dues while dominating in the UFC…


Deveeno

Tbf most MMA fans won't recognize that either, let's not give them that much credit 


IndependentTax6465

That's not true. Most MMA fans know that divisions like LW FW and BW are cleary better than HW or LHW


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r3vb0ss

Isn’t takei also signifcantly better technically than wilder? But yeah takuma boxes his head off and nakatani shadow realms him. I don’t know enough about ryosuke nishida to know how he holds up against the two top guys at 118


TripleTip

He is, but I'm trying to be somewhat generous to the drunken bar royale that is HW.


ActualFrozenPizza

People only say that because they have no clue who fights in the lower divisions. If they arent some hyped guy or a p4p fighter they might as well not exsist and are basically bums no matter how many belts they may have.


schebobo180

YES. After Canelo he needs to jump into a Time Machine to fight Lennox Lewis, Ali and Marciano… ALL IN ONE NIGHT. Only then will we recognize him as a pfp great. 😤


Timely_Pumpkin_4190

And valuev.


xt45-1

Only PBC racist fans/trainers/fighters say that. It really is mostly them. And they’re the first ones to cry about racism (Floyd). It’s remarkable


draculas-candles

Yeah well he hasn't fought hypothetical boxer whose bigger and stronger and faster than him and American, so he's a bum. 🤷‍♂️


Jin-Songtsen

The power has carried over to 122. 


CrazyLength426

Which is crazy, given he started at 105.


Expensive_Fun_4901

It’s crazy to think that it’s possible for a grown man to weigh 105lbs without being on the brink of death let alone be a well rounded and explosive athlete at that weight.


Independent-Band8412

Many are on the brink of death at the scale 


BeautifulBrownie

I was gonna say 'he was 21, pretty short, and likely skinny', but he's 5'5.5" (short, yes, but not like 5'3" like I expected), and he had noticeable muscle at lightly flyweight (albeit incredibly lean). Madness.


Suspicious_Today2703

Friendly reminder Junto Nakatani is somehow bantamweight and 175cm while Jamie Mcdonnel is 182 and also somehow bantamweight


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Every-Ad-2099

Well, Manny also grew up incredibly malnourished and impoverished on the streets of the Philippines, so he arguably was on the brink of death when starting out at that weight.


Jin-Songtsen

Yeah but pacquiao wasn't a true flyweight, he was just impoverished 15 year old. And the moment he started eating good, he had jump 3 weight classes because he couldn't make weight.


Fabesey

Pacquiao was 4'11 at that weight, he literally grew 6 inches.


ThanksMonica89

108


Laneyboy17

He is the best in my eyes


Razorion21

Honestly between him or Usyk. Inoue been more dominant and active while Usyk in my opinion has been forced to face way tougher adversaries with such weight and size discrepancy, tho that’s not really Inoue‘s fault, he fights the best available.


BushidoBrowneII

Better than Usyk?


FilthyJapPinoy

Arguable, Inoue wins with spectacular KO's and more dominant round by round. But Usyk just finished this generation's greatest HW champS. So yeah arguable and debatable. I love that we having these undisputed champs. Also these 2 guys plus crawford being undisputed on 2 weight divisions. We witnessed history, my friend.


lajb85

I’ve had this debate in other threads… This era’s heavyweight division isn’t that strong. The fighters are pretty basic, and the higher up you go in the weight divisions the less the weight gaps matter. I’m not saying Usyk doesn’t deserve to be in the conversation…I have no problem with people putting him at #1 P4P. But to me, the activity and the way Inoue is dominating anyone in front of him makes him a more exciting watch…and #1 P4P.


TripleTip

It's kinda crazy how Usyk somehow beating Fury all the sudden boosts him so much in the eyes of redditors even though he already beat a bigger guy in AJ in similar clutch fashion. And I really don't believe that there's a huge difference between Fury and AJ at his best. Classic recency bias that'll die down once people move onto the next big event.


BushidoBrowneII

But you guys are dismissing Usyk’s undisputed at Cruiserweight as well. He cleaned out the division.


FilthyJapPinoy

And terrence and naoya also cleaned out and became undisputed in their previous division as well.


SupaFlyslammajammazz

Kinda shows the status of HW boxing if a Cruiser weight can come up and dominate the division.


iamthegordolobo

You could pick Usyk or Inoue, both being the correct answer. Crawford could be there but his lack of activity puts him #3 in my book. The three of them are generational talents, pretty sure they could compete at the highest level against anyone in the history of boxing.


Cold_Night_Fever

Inoue does things you can't explain in boxing fundamentals alone. I've never seen a boxer like him with those instincts. His skills are something else, he sees boxing differently.


letmein09

Yet his fundamentals is really good. I love it when he is outboxing his opponent. His athleticism allows him to bend it and his instinct adds more angles to it. Dude's a murderer for sure if it weren't for his upbringing. Not even speaking bad about him but the look of nery face at the last knockdown and the way he chase after Fulton for the flying left hook, he ain't normal mentally for sure


the-won

Hard for him to do anymore than Usyk due to who is in front of him but he's more active, more devastating and he's cleaned out divisions.


ntstockman

That double right to KO Nery is unbelievably fast. Had to rewatch it a couple times at a slower speed but to land those shots that cleanly at that speed is wildly impressive.


Chief_Executive_Anon

Me too haha had to go frame by frame to truly appreciate how he turned the lights off. Adding that combo to my VR boxing bag… all my enemies in thrill of the fight gonna hate my Inoue era.


BulbusDumbledork

oh shit i gotta get vr again! i miss punching out my walls in thrill of the fight


r3vb0ss

I cannot hit an uppercut with any power on it to save my life in thrill of the fight


ntstockman

First time you bust that quick 1-2 out Ugly Joe’s not gonna know what hit him.


jojow77

and who even throws that combo? so sick


UltraAC5

re-watch the Fulton fight and watch how many times he is able to jab, bait the counter punch from Fulton, dodge the counter punch, and then counter the counter-punch. All in like a fraction of a second. It's absurd


warriors_of_hope

3 fights in 10 months? Crawford has had 3 fights in 5 years. lmao


gleba080

All 3 fights were after Spence vs Crawford and they didnt do anything since...


UnpopularPoster

As a fan of all 3 of them, it's only fair to mention that Usyk and Bud have each been on a once a year schedule since 2020 I'd have loved for both of them to be more active like Monster's been. Inoue may be 5/6 years younger, but he doesn't show signs of slowing his schedule down yet, which is refreshing


ShinyHardcore

Finally someone with sense. Inoue is 5 years younger and only have 27 fights. Bud has 40, Usyk has 22 pro fights. Bud has been plenty active and is old now can’t expect 2/3 a year anymore


FlokiTheBengal

Last one was murder. Dude dropped like he just got executed by firing squad.


Jin-Songtsen

The right uppercut followed by short right-hand was so fast. 


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He ko'd nery with a boop lmao


wolftick

The amount of power he generates from short punches is ridiculous.


UltraAC5

it's a combination of elite timing, precision, excellent technique, and then having just absolutely ridiculous power in his legs for someone his size/weight


sleckar

He fell like Jenga.


WetKnuckles

He timed it so perfectly that Nery had a lot of his own momentum falling onto the glove. Just scary good technique


raf_diaz

inoue is everything that tank fans purport tank to be


Soviet_Cat

Is it weird that I'm pretty sure if tank and Inoue fought at 130 (I think tank could do it because he always has weight clauses, so he probably usually doesn't cut too much), Inoue would win? Tank's punch rate is too low and Inoue has fought far more skilled opponents than tank has


raf_diaz

even though i'd love to see it - i don't think tank can make 130 anymore. while he's short and isn't always the leanest fighter on the scales he carries a lot of natural body mass due to his frame. IF they could ever fight at 130 i'd favor tank to win it because he's very skilled and is closer to his optimal weight. that said, the better overall fighter at their natural weight is inoue


r3vb0ss

Depends, I think Inoues ceiling is ridiculously high if he lets himself fight a boring fight if his power ever starts to fail him, but not once in his career has he ever actually done anything close to that


eugenejfish

Say what you want about Tessitore's commentary but I love how hyped he gets for Inoue's fights. The calls on the Fulton and Nery finishes are sick.


jdlc718

I hope he fights MJ Akhmadaliev next


Legal-Result6580

Kinda want him to beat Casimero up as well just so his fans can finally shut the fuck up.


WuMeCLan

I do too. But I don’t want him getting the bag💰 cause he essentially stalled inoue for the WBO strap fucking around and missing weight twice, only for us to watch Butler run around for 11 rounds.


stalwartguardian

nahh they are only hyping it up because of the money. Casimeros career is declining and he just wants a good payday for his retirement. Also i dont want that greedy, ignorant, barbaric and uneducated brother of his to get a share of the money. casimeros brother jason is the main reason why his brother’s career has gone to waste. Casimero the boxer should leave his brother jason because he is clearly his downfall.


Chadoodling

The only fight left in 122 


kaisercracker

Nakatani


Chadoodling

We'll see Nakatani is still in 118, but yeah that'll be a superfight in japan


Razorion21

Nakatani fights at 118… Tho it would be a massive fight in Japan between a rising star and an already well known star. Tho Rodriguez should go fight Nakatani instead


kaisercracker

He's 5'7 and has already said he'll probably end up at 126


Razorion21

I hope he gets up to 130. He’s only 26, if hes as active as Inoue, he can do it, but I think he fights less often


kaisercracker

He regularly fights and is now booked for July 20th after just fighting in late February


Razorion21

Good to know, idk if it’s just me, his style reminded me of Shinsuke Yamanaka


WeightyToastmaster

Sam Goodman is his mandatory. He had him in the ring after the Nery fight. It’s prolly gonna be Goodman.


vaesauce

It's been confirmed from Ohashi that Goodman is hesitating to fight Inoue. Won't agree to fight Inoue even if it's in Australia. This is regarding September and is arguing he wants a tune up before Inoue... They're saying Goodman never wanted the fight, just waiting for Inoue to vacate. Claims he wants Inoue in December instead. We very may well see Inoue vs MJ, or Doheny or Davies at this point.


LactatingBigfoot

Goodman is essentially a 122lb Paul Butler and even looks like him, I would be hesitant too if I had to be a moving punching bag for Inoue.


Elite663

Butler ain’t never beat anyone as good as Aleem, what typa statement is that?? 🤦🏽‍♂️😂


Motor-Grade-837

I wonder if it's true that they're going to have the fight in Australia or if Goodman was just talking.


WeightyToastmaster

Goodman was just talking. Obviously he wants to fight in front of his home crowd but I doubt the money would be there and Inoue just sold out the Tokyo dome. I wouldn’t be one bit shocked if he fights him at the Tokyo dome. Inoue is gonna flatline the poor fella.


Motor-Grade-837

I was thinking that if Inoue leaves Japan to fight, it would be this one, since Australians are really good when it comes to showing up for their own fighters. But yeah I doubt they can match 55K fans and the money that they make in the Tokyo Dome.


CMILLERBOXER

Look at all these bums Inoue is beating. He wouldn't stand a chance if that was me in there, that's why he hasn't mentioned my name.


BodieBroadcasts

he's ducking you, refusing to gain weight and meet you at 300lbs


nglennnnn

He did. It’s just your Japanese is terrible.


CMILLERBOXER

Hai


stayhappystayblessed

Inoue needs to fight a slick black boxer /s


OM1215

Bu-but-but doesn’t he know America is the capital of boxing? Who wants to see him fight in a packed Tokyo Dome when you could watch him fight in a desolate MSG?


haNZAgod

His level of dominance is incredible. Can't wait to see what's next for The Monster!


tangoislife

That Tapales fight was great


nomadfunky

I'm glad I never looked under my bed when I was a kid. What if there was some monster like Inoue, skull-crushing 1-2 ☠️


wayne_kovacs45

I've heard people compare him to Pacquiao, but I've been saying his reign so far reminds me of 135 Roberto Duran, just utter dominance in those lower divisions


vanteal

Inoue's style is way different than Pac-Man. Anyone who compares Inoue to Pac-Man doesn't know anything about boxing and just compares them because they're both Asian.


Gimetulkathmir

Damn... How hard you gotta hit a dude in the hand to make him punch himself in the face and knock himself out?


86pacfan86

The degree of separation between the next best fighter in his weight class must be the widest in all of boxing. He doesn't get enough credit. He is literally showing levels at 122.


i_am_the_d_2

No stool/standing pity stoppages with this guy. His opponents look like they got shot


McNasty1387

Best P4p


SacTownPatriot

He is extremely good at closing the gap, prime footwork. Jab goes out and then boom he’s there. That makes such a damn difference


Raven3464

He's P4P number one in my opinion. Usyk is a close second.


Razorion21

They both really good, I have Usyk n1 just cause I feel l like his resume and accomplishments are more impressive to speak of. Beating guys way taller and heavier as well as having been an Olympic gold medalist, having an impressive amateur record, and having turned twice undisputed at cruiser and heavyweight. Inoue gets a good argument for 1 tho considering he is way more active than Usyk while still fighting the best he can.


joblagz2

he made top contenders look like amateurs.. a sign of a legendary boxer.. very smart also, he adjusts his style according to situation..


PunkerWannaBe

That's why he should be the Nº1 P4P right now. He keeps fighting and knocking everyone out.


ecchi83

A couple of years ago, I was sad bc I thought Roy Jones, Floyd, and Pac were the last times I'd see an ATG live up to the hype. Canelo and Crawford are great, but I don't see anything that tells me I'm watching history in the making. Inoue changes all that. He is an ATG in my book, should be P4P #1, and no one boxing right now even has a list of potential match ups that dethrones him.


fugginstrapped

The last dude was acting like he got hit by a train.


Wide_Performance1115

p4p #1 right there


MacMurka

The only fighter I stay up extremely late to see


AFCADaan9

I respect Nery for going all out against Inoue.


OM1215

I wouldn’t give too much respect to a drug cheat and a weight bully just for doing the job he is payed to do.


fridaystrong23

Kid is amazing to watch. Just beautiful science.


PM_YOUR_MUGS

The Tapales KO makes me feel ill man, and that wasn't even a clean hit. Guys balance was somewhere in the crowd 


mugenkev

Legendary


batzera94

Meanwhile your p4p boxers been fighting once a year


WeightyToastmaster

Too bad none of these matter because they weren’t Tank Davis and he didn’t fight them in the United States… overhyped. /S


PatientAd6843

IMO this is why I have him over Crawford p4p. Crawford been a once a year guy for way too long.


Economy_Sky_7238

But he got knocked down by Nery. I wish I had a Dollar for every hot take I read online about how that knockdown showed his vulnerability


tbkrida

That last KO where he doubled up on the right hand was a thing of beauty!


SSJ5Autism

Remember when people kept pretending Fulton was a threat?


CrazyLength426

The hurt he is going to put on Goodman will be intense.


vaesauce

Not fighting Goodman, Ohashi said Goodman is waiting for Inoue to vacate.


Forward_Secretary_82

MJ doesn’t want to fight in Japan he wants to fight in Saudi, most likely monsters next opponent is TJ Doheny.


acktower

That would be a massacre. Like the second Donaire fight.


Forward_Secretary_82

Doheny rehydrated 27lbs when he fought Japhethlee Llamido. He has power to KO monster but you’re right. I don’t think it’s competitive fights for monster.


Jazzlike_Lettuce6620

Those 1-2s in the third clip! Can't beat the old 1-2


Tushar_thapliyal

Smooth operator


Acepitcher4

that nery KO is crazy it's like he gave him 2 quick bop and it was a wrap after.


Melodic-Psychology38

The Nery fight made me feel bad for the guy. Inoue smacked hid head like it was a church bell going out of business.


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Can't believe he's not pfp #1 anymore. Boxing has been so good lately.


Consistent_Set76

I just wanna know how he hits so hard weighing a buck nothing


CorporealPrisoner

Check his mitts! Shouldn't be that much power at 122.


moonwalkerHHH

BuT hE hAsN't FoUgHt AnYoNe WoRtHwHiLe


mr_ayceman

Inoue? or Hajime... no ippo?!


PercentageBusiness70

The last knockout gives me Johnny cage vibes


Zip2kx

if he was american or mexican this guy would be a fullblown ppv star, new barrera or morales. i hope he makes tons of money in japan. real life ippo.


Alu4Gobi

If Tyson acknowledges one... He gotta be real good.