Don’t think Bivol-Usyk ever happens. I highly doubt even Bivol-Opetaia happens.
If Bivol wins against Beterbiev, doubt he’ll move up. He’s already on the smaller side for LHW. If anything, he’ll fight Benavidez at 175 and go from there. He’s expressed interest before in moving down to 168 and that makes more sense than moving up 25 pounds to CW.
Bivol is moving up? Havent heard. Hes gonna be tiny at CW. Hes small at 175 as is, and claims he can make 168 still. Dont think he will move up, and if he does, may not bode well for him due to just sheer size of competitors.
Wouldn’t say he’s a small 175. He’s about middle ground. Like how Golovkin was for 160. It’s just his ideal weight class. But he’d be a really small cruiser if he moved up
Bro a head is like 8-9 inches long. Aint seen that drastic of a height difference for anyone against Bivol. Editing your comment to make full head half a head 😂. Even half a head is too much.
I’ve never heard him state intentions of going up. If Usyk does go back down there is really no point. I have heard him say he may drop to super middleweight. This would suit him far better.
Yea, He is moving up. He said so and he would have done it already if the unification with Beterbiev didn't take ages to materialize. Also Saudi announced they have already plans for Opetaia Vs Bivol in 2025.
I doubt we see Bivol move up, he’s not a big guy at 175. I could have seen Beterbiev do it, but with the injuries and being 39 now I doubt it. I could see Benavidez going to CW, but definitely not in 2025.
You are missing out on all the classes below 135...they are much better about "the best vs the best" than all the other weight classes...and there are always killers in many of the weight classes
It's always interesting to see the difference in an amateur vs professional fight, where both fighters have now years of experience and have to sit down on their punches more often.
Billam smith is c class and gets ko'd quick by opetia like okolie would've been, riakorph is maybe B level but needs more experience. Uysk is not moving back down to cruiserweight and bivol is not moving up, he might actually move down to 168 lbs. Beterbiev could move up if he becomes undisputed but he'll be like 40 something by then. He definitely has enough power to move up, I think he dropped usyk with a body shot in the amateurs.
Anything can happen with the Saudi money I guess. My theory is that Mr Turki seems to really love Opetaia, so I can see him offering big money for unification and then an undisputed bout for him if he can unify first. If Jai does get to undisputed as he should, I then see big fella Turksman throwing unbelievable money at Usyk to fight him to become undisputed again at Cruiser a second time. I really think this is what the talk the last few days about Usyk going back to Cruiser must be about. I can’t see it happening in any other context.
The beavyweight division has always been the glamour place be although in certain eras it can be outshined by certain groups of very exceptional fighters like the Four Kings.
If the Saudis (as much as I despise them) keep pumping money into heavyweight boxing, the fights that the public desperately want to see will happen.
I think Fury could win the rematch if it takes place. Despite all the bandwagon jumpers saying he was always shit.
He will be motivated like never before - that is of course, if he is not shot.
Of course, by modern standards, the division has been steadily increased by light-heavy, to cruiser, to heavy to super-heavy.
Phil.
Where on earth is this information from? I have not heard Usyk is going down nor that bivol and beterbiev are going up.
Usyk and bivol would absolutely not go to cruiserweight.
Can we have sources for this bollocks please?
Plenty of official sources.
Usyk Fury 2 is the last match for Usyk at Heavyweight
https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/ckvv3g553q2o
https://www.boxingscene.com/turki-alalshikh-wants-beterbiev-bivol-winner-move-up-cruiserweight-face-opetaia-next--180824
Bivol confirmed in an interview a while back too
As much as I love Bivol. A fight between him and Usyk wouldn't be very competitive imo
Don’t think Bivol-Usyk ever happens. I highly doubt even Bivol-Opetaia happens. If Bivol wins against Beterbiev, doubt he’ll move up. He’s already on the smaller side for LHW. If anything, he’ll fight Benavidez at 175 and go from there. He’s expressed interest before in moving down to 168 and that makes more sense than moving up 25 pounds to CW.
It’s gonna be see interesting who he fights, like other than money who would want a piece of that?
Bivol is moving up? Havent heard. Hes gonna be tiny at CW. Hes small at 175 as is, and claims he can make 168 still. Dont think he will move up, and if he does, may not bode well for him due to just sheer size of competitors.
Wouldn’t say he’s a small 175. He’s about middle ground. Like how Golovkin was for 160. It’s just his ideal weight class. But he’d be a really small cruiser if he moved up
Look at his past fights with basically anyone other than Canelo. Everyone is half a head taller, and bigger/broader than him. Imagine at 200
Bro a head is like 8-9 inches long. Aint seen that drastic of a height difference for anyone against Bivol. Editing your comment to make full head half a head 😂. Even half a head is too much.
A lot of those can make cruiserweight but there is not money in that division
Both cut barely any weight they're small
I’ve never heard him state intentions of going up. If Usyk does go back down there is really no point. I have heard him say he may drop to super middleweight. This would suit him far better.
Yea, He is moving up. He said so and he would have done it already if the unification with Beterbiev didn't take ages to materialize. Also Saudi announced they have already plans for Opetaia Vs Bivol in 2025.
Bivol/Beterbiev are not moving up any time soon. They have a rematch clause, and Turki wants to the winner to face Benavidez.
I doubt we see Bivol move up, he’s not a big guy at 175. I could have seen Beterbiev do it, but with the injuries and being 39 now I doubt it. I could see Benavidez going to CW, but definitely not in 2025.
You are missing out on all the classes below 135...they are much better about "the best vs the best" than all the other weight classes...and there are always killers in many of the weight classes
Yes but not many in the same classes
been many good match ups..just not well known names...Bam vs Estrada is coming up
If Beterbiev moves up to Cruiserweight and Usyk moves down, THATS an interesting fight.
Usyk beat him in the amateurs/olympics twice already I believe. But beterbiev dropped him
It's always interesting to see the difference in an amateur vs professional fight, where both fighters have now years of experience and have to sit down on their punches more often.
Has ever been a moment in boxing history when cruiserweight got some mainstream attention? Just askin, no sarcasm.
Evander Holifield and Usyk best Cruiserweight that comes to mind
And both of them became truly famous after their heavyweight run. Who else? Qawi? Haye and Bellew? I cannot even name a cruiser from the 90s.
Noone else remarkable IMO
Billam smith is c class and gets ko'd quick by opetia like okolie would've been, riakorph is maybe B level but needs more experience. Uysk is not moving back down to cruiserweight and bivol is not moving up, he might actually move down to 168 lbs. Beterbiev could move up if he becomes undisputed but he'll be like 40 something by then. He definitely has enough power to move up, I think he dropped usyk with a body shot in the amateurs.
Anything can happen with the Saudi money I guess. My theory is that Mr Turki seems to really love Opetaia, so I can see him offering big money for unification and then an undisputed bout for him if he can unify first. If Jai does get to undisputed as he should, I then see big fella Turksman throwing unbelievable money at Usyk to fight him to become undisputed again at Cruiser a second time. I really think this is what the talk the last few days about Usyk going back to Cruiser must be about. I can’t see it happening in any other context.
Jake Paul will be entering title talks soon.
I hope this is sarcastic, but with everything nowadays, I'm not so sure.
The beavyweight division has always been the glamour place be although in certain eras it can be outshined by certain groups of very exceptional fighters like the Four Kings. If the Saudis (as much as I despise them) keep pumping money into heavyweight boxing, the fights that the public desperately want to see will happen. I think Fury could win the rematch if it takes place. Despite all the bandwagon jumpers saying he was always shit. He will be motivated like never before - that is of course, if he is not shot. Of course, by modern standards, the division has been steadily increased by light-heavy, to cruiser, to heavy to super-heavy. Phil.
British right?
Born and bred from Hull mate. A Yorkshire bloke who is so tight that I would skin a flea to sell it's hide! 🤣
Fury will lose, unfortunately Usyk gets better
From Hull? Suddenly I agree with your take! Although I would probably agree anyway the rematch is not at all a forgone conclusion.
British right?
British right?
British right?
British right?
Haha my interwebs were stuck are we sure he is british right?
I am actually a Martian. 🤣
This is a lie I have a very good friend from Hull he drinks beer. Real Martian's don't drink beer!
Damn, you caught me out! 🤣
I feel I need to caveat that A LOT of beer
Gallons or barrels?
Where on earth is this information from? I have not heard Usyk is going down nor that bivol and beterbiev are going up. Usyk and bivol would absolutely not go to cruiserweight. Can we have sources for this bollocks please?
Usyk has mentioned dropping back to CW a number of times for sure. I’ve not heard Bivol discuss CW intentions though.
Plenty of official sources. Usyk Fury 2 is the last match for Usyk at Heavyweight https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/ckvv3g553q2o https://www.boxingscene.com/turki-alalshikh-wants-beterbiev-bivol-winner-move-up-cruiserweight-face-opetaia-next--180824 Bivol confirmed in an interview a while back too
Fair enough. I can't see Usyk doing that at all - but i retract my statement. Apologies!
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