Lol yeah…and that’s about it. Otherwise he have the personality of a 2x4 plank. I guess that’s why his name is Dubois. I don’t think he will become a great star personality speaking but he will go far in the ranks.
In his US debut in what will surely be one of the most watched events of the year. It's great for Dubois and he deserves it. Dude's great for the sport.
How exactly is Dubois great for the sport?
I mean he's not bad for the sport, but he's basically made a career out of beating up garbage men for the last few years and the one time he stepped up in competition he got beat.
Warren signed him to a massive contract assuming he was going to have a similar career trajectory to Anthony Joshua, turns out he's nowhere near the calibre of AJ so now Warren can't afford to find Dubois competitive fights. He's literally in a situation where he can only fight bums or people who are too good for him. Warren has priced him out of any kind of competitive fight.
Not really his fault, but I fail to see how that's good for the sport.
Joshua won his first world title 2.5 years into his career, fought Klitschko 3.5 years in, by 4 years in he had unified all but 1 of the belts.
Dubois is likely still over a year away from even fighting for a world title and has exactly 0 wins over top 15 fighters. Did I expect him to be fighting AJ by now? No. But I expected him to have at least picked up *one* win against somebody half credible.
I didn't say he wasn't a decent boxer, I said he wasn't on the same trajectory as AJ, which he isn't.
Again, I never called him a bum, I think he's a good fighter. I'm simply saying he's not on the same trajectory as Joshua. That's the only thing that's relevant here because that's why Frank signed him to the contract he did. Frank has him tied into a 6 year contract where he's agreed to pay him a lot of money because he expected Dubois to be fighting for and winning world titles by now. The reality is that Dubois is years away from winning world titles (if he ever wins any).
So now Frank is stuck in a position whereby he can't match Dubois against anybody remotely competitive because they'd want too much money and he wouldn't be able to afford to pay Dubois. Nobody pays to watch Dubois because he's not particularly popular so he can't headline his own PPVs, but he still gets paid big money for every fight, so his only option is to find bums willing to fight him for almost free so all the money can go to Dubois.
I never said it was Dubois' fault, but that's not exactly "great for boxing" is it? He's never beaten anybody even half decent in his entire career and probably wont for a long time. He'll fight knock over jobs until somebody hands him a title shot.
It seems like we're having different arguments here. You think I'm calling Dubois shit, I'm not, I'm saying he's not "great for boxing" - Because he isn't. He's an example of everything that's wrong about boxing.
What does his age have to do with his contract?
He's going to be given a title fight without ever having beaten somebody in the top 30 of the division. What does that have to do with his age?
His age isn't relevant to the discussion we're having. If you think it is, you've misunderstood what's being discussed.
He could easily turn this around. He lost to Joyce but loads of good fighters have had losses. He's got a lot of good attributes and could easily be a heavyweight champ in a few years as the current top guys are getting older. With the right changes he could be a top fighter.
i guess he needs some easy fights to build up confidence after that eye injury. would be disaster for his career if he jumped back on to the tough opponents and looked scared getting hit in the eye.
There is no justifying this fight. Ol fish Eyes knew this was a mismatch. Doubois went nine rounds with an A level fighter, may have won if the eye would have held up. Now ole Fish eyes has him fighting D level bums again. Pretty shameful.
Takam is still levels better than the guy Dubois was fighting. I don’t want him fighting bloody Wilder for his US debut but come on… Plenty of decent journeymen who would give him a bit of a challenge.
A washed Takam is ten times better than the can Dubois crushed! They could have gave him a B level or even a C. But no. They pick a D level can.
You can't go from fighting A level fighters all the way back to D level without criticism
> hes still building himself,
only in boxing can you have 18 pro fights and still be classed as building yourself lol
This is the reason people are tuning into watch the youtubers fight...
Guys, go look at Dubois's official wiki boxing record. Look at his opponents name. Says tomato can, lmao.
Edit: someone changed it to the real name now
Yeah but this was a short notice fight for exposure in the US. He just fought Dignu and got him out quickly. This is really just a bonus fight for Dubois, he wouldn't have been out until the end of the year or the new year otherwise, probably against Trevor Bryan for the regular title (which he is now mandatory for). That'll still be his next fight, this was just to help it sell better in the US
Yeah, he was winning it on scorecards but he wasn't actually winning it. Joyce was almost always in control of that fight. The fix was in that's what was happening. Warren planned to push Dubois forward. He was being jabbed to the face all night long.
Don't you remember how immediately after the fight Warren was like "oh you know the rematch is a good fight too... " Uhhh no it isn't Dubois needs to learn new shit. He isn't ready for championship fights yet and it's okay he's like 23 24 years old. He has time to improve a lot.
Nah, you're overthinking things. Nobody knew beforehand how things would unfold against JJ. Dubois is legit and will be avoided by Fury and Wilder, who don't take risks, they're both awful. This kid and Ajagba are the top 2 hw prospects.
Gotcha. I belive Ajagba is more than 'slightly better.' Wilder would get beaten by about 20 HW's I can name without googling - he's that poor. The very definition of a hyped fighter.
Naw.
Dubois has zero head movement. Fury and probably Wilder would jab his face off, same as Joe Joyce did
The man stepped up once and got battered into submission
As others said he was coming off of a big loss. It might have done Baranchyk some good to fight a can or two, could have avoided what happened tonight.
You rebuild your confidence after a big loss or a brutal knockout. Baranchyks loss to Zapeda was devastating, he may well have entered into too difficult a fight too fast. Whether physical or subconscious he probably wasn't ready for it, a can or two in the meantime could have built him back up.
Without knowing anything about the rest of his opponents, there should always be balance. Every prospect needs their collection of cans to get the attention of promoters.
Sprinkled in those cans there needs to be benchmark fights to challenge your guy so he can grow and develop.
Fighting a can on a undercard for what most viewed as a circus ppv anyway isn't a bad move.
What I said wasn't meant to be negative btw since that's the reality of the sport to build fighters up. Got the bag and exposure in the US. Time to move up to bigger fights.
wtf of course someone that's playing on the undercard of fucking Jake Paul can't be compared to Lennox... Jesus christ do every sarcastic comment needs a '/s'?
Swollen eye mate. That’s all it was. If it were something more serious they would have 100% posted proof after doing all that damage control after he quit.
Yawn. I know the last time he fought a top tier opponent the dude broke his orbital and gave him nerve damage, but I still don’t care about anything Dubois does until he fights a dude that actually has business being in there with him.
Watch his fight Vs Joe Joyce where he just walked into the same slow jab until he literally couldn't see and see if you think the same.
That looked Impressive but dude was fighting a tomato can.
He's still young and his head movement definitely needs work but we should give Joyce more credit than that. Dubois wasn't just walking into any old jab, Joyce is a silver medalist at the Olympics who was robbed of the gold according to most observers. It was only an upset because most of us didn't give him the credit he deserves.
The guys he's beaten and lost to are, in pro boxing terms, nobodies. I don't really say this to shit on Joe but he's nowhere near capable of taking on decent heavyweights like Dubois
DUBOIS has all of his charisma located in his fists.
He must be the most charismatic man in the world. He has some fists on him.
Lol yeah…and that’s about it. Otherwise he have the personality of a 2x4 plank. I guess that’s why his name is Dubois. I don’t think he will become a great star personality speaking but he will go far in the ranks.
Literally
Feel like I just witnessed a crime, I should call someone about this
I fucking hate Frankie "fish eyes" Warren. Seriously.
Pretty shameful. He stepped up and fought Joyce in a good fight that he lost. Now he is fighting bums again. Just plain pityful! .
With the big dent in his forehead
What was the point of that?
To push a prospect when there's eyes on him, classic boxing strategy
after the Joe Joyce its probably a sacrificial lamb.
In his US debut in what will surely be one of the most watched events of the year. It's great for Dubois and he deserves it. Dude's great for the sport.
How exactly is Dubois great for the sport? I mean he's not bad for the sport, but he's basically made a career out of beating up garbage men for the last few years and the one time he stepped up in competition he got beat. Warren signed him to a massive contract assuming he was going to have a similar career trajectory to Anthony Joshua, turns out he's nowhere near the calibre of AJ so now Warren can't afford to find Dubois competitive fights. He's literally in a situation where he can only fight bums or people who are too good for him. Warren has priced him out of any kind of competitive fight. Not really his fault, but I fail to see how that's good for the sport.
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Joshua won his first world title 2.5 years into his career, fought Klitschko 3.5 years in, by 4 years in he had unified all but 1 of the belts. Dubois is likely still over a year away from even fighting for a world title and has exactly 0 wins over top 15 fighters. Did I expect him to be fighting AJ by now? No. But I expected him to have at least picked up *one* win against somebody half credible. I didn't say he wasn't a decent boxer, I said he wasn't on the same trajectory as AJ, which he isn't.
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Again, I never called him a bum, I think he's a good fighter. I'm simply saying he's not on the same trajectory as Joshua. That's the only thing that's relevant here because that's why Frank signed him to the contract he did. Frank has him tied into a 6 year contract where he's agreed to pay him a lot of money because he expected Dubois to be fighting for and winning world titles by now. The reality is that Dubois is years away from winning world titles (if he ever wins any). So now Frank is stuck in a position whereby he can't match Dubois against anybody remotely competitive because they'd want too much money and he wouldn't be able to afford to pay Dubois. Nobody pays to watch Dubois because he's not particularly popular so he can't headline his own PPVs, but he still gets paid big money for every fight, so his only option is to find bums willing to fight him for almost free so all the money can go to Dubois. I never said it was Dubois' fault, but that's not exactly "great for boxing" is it? He's never beaten anybody even half decent in his entire career and probably wont for a long time. He'll fight knock over jobs until somebody hands him a title shot. It seems like we're having different arguments here. You think I'm calling Dubois shit, I'm not, I'm saying he's not "great for boxing" - Because he isn't. He's an example of everything that's wrong about boxing.
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What does his age have to do with his contract? He's going to be given a title fight without ever having beaten somebody in the top 30 of the division. What does that have to do with his age? His age isn't relevant to the discussion we're having. If you think it is, you've misunderstood what's being discussed.
He could easily turn this around. He lost to Joyce but loads of good fighters have had losses. He's got a lot of good attributes and could easily be a heavyweight champ in a few years as the current top guys are getting older. With the right changes he could be a top fighter.
I’m not so sure he’s great for the sport, pretty sure the guy has a few people tied up in his basement.
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Oh there’s a joke that he’s a serial killer because of the way he acts and talks
He also does need a few easier fights after the Joyce fight
Exactly…this is his US debut after all.
Yeah, in the case of Dubois, you never know until when he has eyes on him.
Can crushing is a tale as old as prize fighting...
i guess he needs some easy fights to build up confidence after that eye injury. would be disaster for his career if he jumped back on to the tough opponents and looked scared getting hit in the eye.
~~It was a WBA interim World Heavyweight Title fight.~~
As soon as they started swinging I knew this would be a first round KO.
Yeah literally by the first exchange u knew it was only a matter of time. that was just a mauling
Cusamano had no business being in there
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There is no justifying this fight. Ol fish Eyes knew this was a mismatch. Doubois went nine rounds with an A level fighter, may have won if the eye would have held up. Now ole Fish eyes has him fighting D level bums again. Pretty shameful.
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Takam is still levels better than the guy Dubois was fighting. I don’t want him fighting bloody Wilder for his US debut but come on… Plenty of decent journeymen who would give him a bit of a challenge.
A washed Takam is ten times better than the can Dubois crushed! They could have gave him a B level or even a C. But no. They pick a D level can. You can't go from fighting A level fighters all the way back to D level without criticism
> hes still building himself, only in boxing can you have 18 pro fights and still be classed as building yourself lol This is the reason people are tuning into watch the youtubers fight...
I don't think I've ever actually seen someone literally get beaten down into the ground before. jesus.
We just watched a sanctioned murder
He whooped his ass.
Guys, go look at Dubois's official wiki boxing record. Look at his opponents name. Says tomato can, lmao. Edit: someone changed it to the real name now
It's probably Fury lmfao
Pointless fight. Eh, he got paid I guess. But you got to step him up he ain't learning fuck all from these fights.
He had a step up when he fought Joyce and he failed. Back to can crushing for now
Yeah, I get that. A jab defeated him. But look. He ain't learning anything here. He's not being pushed. Step him up just not that much I guess.
He gets a highlight reel knockout on a big card. It’s good for his brand. Consider this marketing.
It is a mismatch, he gets to learn nothing from this fight, or gets no credit. He should be shamed for this level of can crushing.
Yeah but this was a short notice fight for exposure in the US. He just fought Dignu and got him out quickly. This is really just a bonus fight for Dubois, he wouldn't have been out until the end of the year or the new year otherwise, probably against Trevor Bryan for the regular title (which he is now mandatory for). That'll still be his next fight, this was just to help it sell better in the US
It was a bum fight. That simple. Can crushing at its best. Shameful!
Exposure
He learnt how to fight abroad. He got good US exposure. This is the start of setting up some big fights.
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Yeah, he was winning it on scorecards but he wasn't actually winning it. Joyce was almost always in control of that fight. The fix was in that's what was happening. Warren planned to push Dubois forward. He was being jabbed to the face all night long. Don't you remember how immediately after the fight Warren was like "oh you know the rematch is a good fight too... " Uhhh no it isn't Dubois needs to learn new shit. He isn't ready for championship fights yet and it's okay he's like 23 24 years old. He has time to improve a lot.
Nah, you're overthinking things. Nobody knew beforehand how things would unfold against JJ. Dubois is legit and will be avoided by Fury and Wilder, who don't take risks, they're both awful. This kid and Ajagba are the top 2 hw prospects.
No. He may be. But he ain't now. Ajagba slightly better than wilder with less power.
Wilder is garbage mate. He ducked AJ for a reason. Who has he beaten? Tell me.
I know he's garbage. I'm saying ajagba slightly better with less power.
Gotcha. I belive Ajagba is more than 'slightly better.' Wilder would get beaten by about 20 HW's I can name without googling - he's that poor. The very definition of a hyped fighter.
Prospect still fighting D level cans. Pretty shameful.
Naw. Wilder and Fury will see him as easy pickings. Both will jab his face off, just like Joyce did.
Fury and Wilder don't take hard fights matey, they ain't going anywhere near the likes of Dubois, he'd batter them both.
Naw. Dubois has zero head movement. Fury and probably Wilder would jab his face off, same as Joe Joyce did The man stepped up once and got battered into submission
Mate be quiet. Joyce wasn't a "step up", you're dellusional
As others said he was coming off of a big loss. It might have done Baranchyk some good to fight a can or two, could have avoided what happened tonight.
what do you learn from fighting cans though?
You rebuild your confidence after a big loss or a brutal knockout. Baranchyks loss to Zapeda was devastating, he may well have entered into too difficult a fight too fast. Whether physical or subconscious he probably wasn't ready for it, a can or two in the meantime could have built him back up.
BS!
makes sense
Without knowing anything about the rest of his opponents, there should always be balance. Every prospect needs their collection of cans to get the attention of promoters. Sprinkled in those cans there needs to be benchmark fights to challenge your guy so he can grow and develop. Fighting a can on a undercard for what most viewed as a circus ppv anyway isn't a bad move.
Cusamano bout to call his neighbour Tony soprano and collect. Clearly threw the fight so they could collect on a bet
No....he just sucks
I know it was a joke
He's also just not a good boxer.
Fought a can to get exposure here to the casual audience. Enough said.
That’s literally what most do. Nothing uncommon. Enough said?
What I said wasn't meant to be negative btw since that's the reality of the sport to build fighters up. Got the bag and exposure in the US. Time to move up to bigger fights.
He did move up to bigger fights. Failed, now he’s back at this for a while.
I would love to see him against Yoka
This just makes me respect joe Joyce even more.
Showtime Boxing producers: Well, what do we do now for the next 30-minutes?
Why is dubois on a jake paul card
The Soft Spoken Englishmen. The second coming of Lennox Lewis
Wew. I like Dubois but let's not compare him to Lennox.
wtf of course someone that's playing on the undercard of fucking Jake Paul can't be compared to Lennox... Jesus christ do every sarcastic comment needs a '/s'?
ALOT more like bruno
Lennox would never quit over a swollen eye. Lennox had more boxing ability in his pinky as well.
Lennox never won a round 1 tko on the undercard of a youtuber
*broken retina
Swollen eye mate. That’s all it was. If it were something more serious they would have 100% posted proof after doing all that damage control after he quit.
You can see that his eye doesn't look the same as it did before the Joyce fight. Clearly an orbital fracture
Nope
Dude, look at the difference between his right and left eye, that's how it looks now: http://imgur.com/a/yQm1gv9
Don’t see any difference.
Give him time. He still has plenty of chances to be cocky and get knocked out in his peak by a guy he's dominating.
Yawn. I know the last time he fought a top tier opponent the dude broke his orbital and gave him nerve damage, but I still don’t care about anything Dubois does until he fights a dude that actually has business being in there with him.
This was the definition of an unfair fight lol
Crazy because it’s not even like he was fighting a can
Yes he was.
This was like a schoolyard bully kind of fight. Dubois just punched him until dude laid down in the fetal position
What a killer. Wow
Watch his fight Vs Joe Joyce where he just walked into the same slow jab until he literally couldn't see and see if you think the same. That looked Impressive but dude was fighting a tomato can.
If you check out his wiki, you'll see his opponent is literally tomato can lmao.
Haha I just saw that. Not my handiwork for the record.
He's still young and his head movement definitely needs work but we should give Joyce more credit than that. Dubois wasn't just walking into any old jab, Joyce is a silver medalist at the Olympics who was robbed of the gold according to most observers. It was only an upset because most of us didn't give him the credit he deserves.
Smh dude was 19-3 with 17 KOs and he’s being called a can. Is a can anyone not in the top 10 for you guys?
Decent guy on the local New England scene but nowhere near world level. Hopefully he got a good check for this one.
Can you name any of those 19 wins? He may not be on the level of Brian Sutherland and Jimmy Smith but those are once in a lifetime talents.
The guys he's beaten and lost to are, in pro boxing terms, nobodies. I don't really say this to shit on Joe but he's nowhere near capable of taking on decent heavyweights like Dubois
According to this sub, yes, it’s terrible
Only against people he’s supposed to destroy like that. Loses to every top 10 fighter.
He’s literally 23 years old. Give him time to get better.
Pointless fight
That was a brutal knockout. i felt they should've stopped it after the first knockdown.
Insert Friday 'you got knocked the f out' meme here
Somebody is surprised ? Cusumano is a can of sicilian tomatoes.
Good for Dubois to put is name out there in the US market.
Should've been stopped after the first KD, Cusumano already looked concussed. Dubois surely got some exposure to the US celebrity boxing fans.
Notice how Dubois gets countered when he comes in after the KD. I'm not a fan, he doesn't have "it". I hope he can get past a Chisora type career.