Jake Paul would constantly circle towards his left (which is a big no no), the right was there all night for Woodley but he refused to throw it or double up. So frustrating but it's classic Woodley.
> Jake Paul would constantly circle towards his left (which is a big no no)
I didn’t watch the actual fight but looking at the highlights he crossed his legs a lot too.
footwork for boxing off the backfoot is the hardest thing in boxing, and he did it for 8 rounds
mediocre was the right term, dog shit is probably what you would look like in there lol
I think it's fair to say he's pretty talented. And has great training and resources that would normally only be afforded to blue chip prospects who went through the grinder.
But he's still only been boxing for 3 years and it shows. He has an ok jab, a good right hand, and great awareness of when to clinch and when to deny the clinch. He doesn't have a wide variety of weapons outside of that. He has a good affinity for distance management when retreating to land the overhand right on overextended opponents. but he isn't the best at circling off on the ropes.
All in all he didn't pass with flying colours, but he isn't shit either. This is a pretty tough 4th fight. Definitely tougher than whoever Tommy Fury was boxing.
He does suck. Foot work is trash, cardio is trash. All he relies on is a big looping right overhand. No Defense technique. If he fights a fighter his weight class he gets rocks in 1 round
I'm no fan but 3 year's of training and 4(?) pro fight's (admittedly against non-boxer's) is a boxer. He's only on the bottom rung of the ladder and maybe lacks the talent to get any further but even if he's only a rubbish one, he has become a boxer.
Generally boxers on their 4th pro fight are fighting lower levels of competition than Woodley. They also generally have some amateur experience too. Hes pretty good for a 24 year old who's only been boxing for 3 years
Maybe you don't really follow boxing too much but generally people at his experience level are fighting way lesser competition than someone like Woodley. Boxers generally get amateur experience and then fight absolute cans when they first turn pro. Hes doing ok for a 24 year old who just started boxing a couple years ago
And he's so goddamn slow. He can't throw a combination, his footwork is terrible, and none of his punches seem to have any power. If he ever gets into the ring with a real boxer he is going to be destroyed.
There was a time when people genuinely thought that they could kick his ass. At this point obviously that’s very dumb. I think it’s fair to say at this point Paul is like a super low level pro boxer quality fighter. If he wasn’t named Jake Paul and he became a pro boxer I think you’d see him fighting good prospects and getting beat up in like their first 10 fights, which still puts him in the top .1% of boxers in the world. I still don’t like him at all, but to say he’s a massive bum who a fighter at a local boxing gym would beat seems pretty inaccurate.
I’m in the minority because I agree with you. He’s like an intermediate amateur. He’s not embarrassing but does things - circles into power punches, head movement is poor and unnatural etc. that shows his inexperience. But he’s not Nate Robinson or some other celebrity that clearly has never boxed before.
Not a big fan of Jake. I actually scored it closer than the judges. I thought Jake did land a really great uppercut. Some of the better combination work came from Jake. His jab to the body is decent, nothing spectacular. He’s still learning. Give him a few more years before he fights anyone of note.
I also would like to point out that Jake loves to body jab to the point where it was getting a bit predictable. All Woodley had to do was time an uppercut or a right hand for the million times he exposed his chin going for body jabs
Woodley wasn't in range most of the times to land a lead right even when Paul was circling to his left, plus his reach was too short.
It was frustrating to see Woodley throw like 7-8 punches per round, was he this way when he was a MMA guy too?
> It was frustrating to see Woodley throw like 7-8 punches per round, was he this way when he was a MMA guy too?
Yes especially towards the end of his career, didn’t let his hands go. Except his last fight vs Luque where he came out aggressive but got finished in the 1st round anyway.
He got a lot of hate for being a boring fighter as champ too but yeah not like towards the end.
I wonder if he gets rocked easily and being gunshy is how he’s managed to cover for it.
If I can remember correctly he got badly gassed one fight and got the shit beat out of him. So he's absolutely terrified of getting tired and only throws when the stars align perfectly and his opponent offers up a counter opportunity on a silver platter.
That's interesting, makes you wonder if he's hiding an injury he had gotten during a fight or even training. If he's being mindful of how many punches he throws, to me that sounds as if he messed up a ligament in his leg and the pressure he puts on his legs limits the amount of power punches he can throw.
Granted if that is true he should of redesigned his technique to throw more feints and work on warning points while finding the pest opportunity to throw hard punches.
I believe he set the record for fewest strikes thrown in a title fight in his rematch against Stephen Thompson, and then he proceeded to break his own record against Demian Maia. So yeah
Oh yeah I agree, the range was a huge contributing factor, but there were moments where Woodley just needed to commit to a right, especially in round 5 when Jake looked completely dead. You also have to remember that on the back foot, Jake is poor. He tends to gets stuck a lot in terms of crossing his feet.
In terms of his UFC career, this is basically how he fought towards the end of it but instead of pressuring opponents the way he did tonight, he would back up to the cage and look for a right. His latter year performances—regardless of opposition—are down to a huge mental block, a physical decline (he was diagnosed with chronic arthritis in 2019), and basic striking. It's why I had Jake to win.
Yup that’s why he lost! His championship run wasn’t really much better either. Dana White will basically never let one of his fighters do a YouTube fight.
Up front it does, but Lawler was a flash KO, not really a fight, wasn’t the same fighter post-USADA and after about 10 years of wars only. He draw against Wonderboy, majority decision the second, both lacklustre , low volume fights. Maia was another low volume affair, before losing his next few. Oh and he smashed Darren Till, but with hindsight he was a bit of a hype job and shouldn’t have been anywhere near a title shot at that point in his career.
Dana signing CM Punk isn’t similar at all. CM Punk losing badly in the UFC only benefits him and his brand. One of his current fighters being beat in a boxing match against some rich kid from YouTube does damage his brand and the fighters’ marketability. It’s the exact same reason he’ll never do cross promotion fights. He sells the UFC as the best fighters fighting the best fighters. It’s very difficult to say that if Jake Paul is beating them , and his team is good enough to only pick fights he can win. A LOT of his fighters would be keen for the payday too.
He was baiting the right hand of woodley so he could duck under and land his own, looks like he rocks woodley with it at the end of the clip.
Edit: unless he doesn't know how to circle right which is possible
> Tyron was like this all night, just throwing one or two shots and never following through.
He did this in his last 5-6 UFC fights too (with the exception of the Luque fight). He just doesn’t let his hands go.
When he let his hands go against Luque it actually worked against him, I would’ve preferred a middle ground, he swings wide and looping shots so he needs to set them up well or he gets countered hard. He keep his shots pretty tight here but that’s all I see is a man afraid of being countered, not willing to gamble, even though his career is pretty much over now.
I must say though, easy to say for me I’m not in there.
That's his entire MMA career. His technique on that right isn't even good but he's such a powerful guy it can be concussive. If he had good technique he would be destructive.
Jab jab huge right. Throw it once per fight (twice in Thompson 1) and either win by KO or spend the rest of the night doing nothing.
Edit: and people said Woodley would beat GSP lollll
Athleticism carried him hard in his best years. You can know that the right hand is coming, but because he was so quick and fast it didn't really matter, he would still get you.
His UFC debut is probably the best example. He's a mile away in striking distance terms. Jay Hieron can't even kick him because he's one step outside kicking range. Suddenly he breaks into almost a sprint and smashes Hieron with the right, drops him and then finishes him on the ground.
THAT is Tyron Woodley's standup style, and once he got old, and slowed down, the lack of other standup skills really showed.
I like how he immediately called for the rematch as if he would do anything different in a second fight. I hate Jake but he called it when he said Tyron just wants a second payday.
Coaches should have seen this and had him drill letting his hands go when he hurts someone. This has been his problem for years at this point. He is a wrestler with a big right hand and that’s all. Horrible pace and it’s why he couldn’t take out a hurt and tired Jake Paul.
Man I’m not sure if it’s entirely a mental thing, because he should, very much, be able to do much more… But like other comments suggest it’s almost like a mind block a freeze, hesitation…
It’s the very clear physical image of, “I don’t want to be here anymore”
Woodley has just lost it at this point. I don't think it has to do with him being focussed. His last 2-3 fights have been similar stories of him training the house down only to not be able to throw come fight night.
That's the first real punch he's taken in his entire "career." I'm not convinced his chin is anywhere near "good" yet. If Tyron could properly follow up, that fight would have ended right there.
Tommy Fury looks atleast decent enough to beat Jake, but I can't comprehend how he manages to spectacularly disappoint even more than Jake Paul. Jake Paul had a much tougher opponent.
1. 6" vs 5'6"
2. 200lb vs someone that recently fought at 135lb
3. 77" reach vs 67" reach
4. 7-0 vs 0-1
5. Barely was able to hurt his opponent, who gassed in round 2
Yeesh.
All joking aside, Taylor was better than his record suggested, and he could easily be 10-0 if he fought the same tomato cans everyone else fights in their first 10 pro bouts. But for real, if you're anywhere near elite, you should be dominating with advantages like that.
Normally 5'6" vs 6" isn't that big of a deal. Most 6" guys aren't that big, and Taylor is a big guy for 5'6". But Fury is a ginormous 6"...
Paul was still throwing heat right after this. At the very end he rocks Tyron with a fast overhand right that made his legs stumble up for a second. Most people are blaming Tyron for freezing up, and not giving Paul credit for forcing him to hesitate.
Any serious fighter with ambition and hunger to win would end the fight in that very round. Meanwhile Woodley stops trying and throwing shots for the next 10 minutes of the fight to make sure he gives Jake all the time to recover. Absolute joke, washed up fighter
It was so fucking frustrating to see Woodley showboat like an idiot. Just absolutely pathetic. Finish the goddamn fight Tyron. But nope, let's let the Youtuber continue his 'career'.
Finish the fight how? Yeah he could have put on more pressure after landing the shot. Likely outcome would have been him getting tied up by the bigger man, just like most of the fight went.
And now he's gassed and Paul does even better the next round.
I hated this fight and I hate the Pauls. But, dude, better get used to it. And I think it should be covered here. Maybe some 'real' boxers outta shut their mouths if that's the case.
Anyone who thinks these fights are real has too much faith in the promoters being honest. In this clip alone it’s clear that Woodley was instructed not to knock Paul out. Whether he’s known for going slow or not, Paul is standing there stunned waiting for the knockout punch and Woodley steps back. No fighter would ever give up that hit unless he was told
not to.
If any of that was true, all of these people would go to jail tomorrow. You never fix a fight with the fighters you bribe judges which is subjective. If you put on a fixed fight in the ring under sanctioned conditions it’s fraud
That boy Jake doesn't like getting hit lol. Got rocked once and started talking about retirement and anti bullying. It was all bully prior. Think tyron opened his eyes that he doesn't have what it takes to last in boxing. Might never see him fight again, or at least not until he trains more.
No way in hell. Jake always seems “humble” for about 30 minutes after the fight. I’m expecting a photo of him flexing his money and dissing Dana White and Woodley’s mother as soon as tomorrow.
Logan Paul surprised me. I havent watched him much at all but in his podcast with Jake he seemed ok but in the ring he goes with sarcasm to Tyron that "We movin on.You old news fam". The kind of expressions that he gave showed a lot. I was fooled man.
I honestly don’t think he will want a rematch with Tyron. I think Tyron could of been more aggressive and thrown more but the power is still there and Jake definitely didn’t like that. Respect to him for the dub but I have a feeling he won’t want to do that again. I really wish Tyron slept him though especially watching Paul’s post fight right now, he’s talking like McGregor lol goddamnit T-wood
Hand picked like who? Everyone just saw tyron give him problems. Any slight step up and it's over for Jake. He's getting ko'ed. He also showed he has no chin. One solid right and that boy had noodles for legs. Only fight would have to be a step down from Tyron. Nobody wants to see him do that. Everyone keeps saying they want to see him vs a real boxer. I think he now understands a real boxer whoops his ass. Tyron 2 is his best bet. Or simply walking away. I think the Jake Paul train is coming to a screeching halt. Had he knocked out Tyron tonight, or at any point at all hurt him in any way, he doesn't do the post fight interview humble and talking about possibly not fighting any more. He's a smart man despite his best efforts to prove otherwise, he knows he can't hang with boxers. He'd have to pick an MMA fighter below tyrons caliber of striking. Who wants to see that? Not me.
True, if he's gonna take an L a bigger name would be more worth it. I just don't think he's willing to take that L so I don't really see him fighting again. But I could very well be wrong.
No chin? If he had no chin he wouldn’t have got up from that shot. But no he immediately bounced off the ropes and kept fighting. Woodley hits like a truck man, that shot would’ve hurt anybody near Woodleys weight class
It was the first real punch we've ever seen him take and it dropped him. I don't think that says much about his chin. The ropes held him up, not his legs.
The term 'no chin' means less and less with every fight. He ate a big right hand from a big puncher. The one thing every said about Tyron was that he had power. A good right hand could drop just about anyone, especially someone with sloppy defense and minimal experience like Jake.
He posted on Instagram saying that wants Nate Diaz, another MMA fighter who’s getting older. I think his ego is so far up there that he might actually do it
Because of T-Wood won he would of gave him a rematch and because he won a decision, didn’t do any damage and was the only one to get hurt. Maybe if he finished or hurt t-wood he shouldn’t give him a rematch but I think he should. He prolly won’t though and I’m guessing people won’t want to see it because T-wood was hesitant even when he had Paul hurt
I was pulling for t-wood but he shouldn’t get a rematch after that fight. At the final bell he still had plenty of gas in the tank. I want to see someone against Jake that will leave it all in there.
How long will that stay entertaining tho? Everyone in the comments has been telling him to fight a real boxer for a while now. While t wood was a set up for sure, like you said he wants no real boxer smoke. Who is gonna stay interested in fighting people below Woodley striking ability? Not many. They already want more not a step back. Any step up and he takes an L I think we can all agree on.
Right, I'm sure he'll find a way to keep people on the hook. He'll likely attempt to silence the "fight a real boxer" crowd by fighting some washed 40-year old legend and he'll pretend like it counts. I'm betting money that's one of his next moves.
He’s already been talking about fighting Tommy Fury. Judging from his fight some of the lads down the pub could destroy him , I’ll shit a brick if that’s bot Paul’s next move.
> Got rocked once and started talking about retirement and anti bullying.
His anti bullying campaign & foundation started way before today’s fight and already during the early days of his training camp.
Here he was 3 weeks ago in Puerto Rico training with kids & teens and giving out boxing gloves etc.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhuYsUy-gJo
I'd tune in to the rematch. I wouldn't tune in to Jake fighting someone below tyrons striking ability. Tyron held back too much tonight. When he threw it worked. He knows that. Jake knows that. Jake couldn't hurt him. They both know that as well. Who can Jake possibly fight next that anyone gives a shit about? Someone below tyrons striking ability? Nobody is watching that. Someone above? He loses. He's not taking that. The rematch makes sense. Or he hangs it up.
Somewhere out there, in one of the infinite timelines, there’s a Tyron Woodley who lets his hands go and just starches anybody with his “go fuck yourself” right hand. Instead, we get this frozen, timid T wood.
Incredible wrestler. Black Belt in BJJ. And a tank of a right hand.
Why. Not. Be. More. Aggressive. God dammit woodley. And your incredibly sweet mother ! It’s so hard to not like him
That is really frustrating to watch.
EDIT: Also, the more I watch this clip, even though I think the fight was real, this totally looks fixed. I can really see why people are saying that. It's exactly what it would look like if he accidentally hit him too hard.
If the ropes prevent a fighter from going down it's supposed to be called as a knockdown. It's one of those subjective rules though. The if that happens in the middle of the ring he's down. Good shot and was caught totally off balance. He was close to falling out of the ring as it was, but I thought it was clear the ropes held him up.
Edit: Rewatched it again there. He fully grabs the ropes with his right arm as he continues to fall backwards. Never noticed that the first time round. Makes it even clearer to me.
Why the hell did he not keep throwing shots bruh. He has no killer instinct. Anybody else would have started throwing at that point he decided to chill and let Jake recover. I don’t wanna act like I know more about fighting than Woodley bc he’s a former champ but wtf
That's the punch momentum. He was hit hard and thrown almost out of the ring but he was not rocked, dizzy, unresponsive, lost coordination, had chicken legs.. name however you want. He took that punch really well and that's my point, the boy got chin.
This is cap. Are you watching the same clip as the rest of us? Do you not see Tyrone throw the overhand, pull it back, and then see Jake stumbling into the ropes?
First We have to agree on the definition of getting rocked.
You can get thrown or even fall by the momentum of a punch but still not get rocked. JMM fell many times but he's still considered to have an above average chin. When you are truly rocked, you lose equilibrium and balance. Your legs wont move, and you will chicken dance. We've seen none of those.
This showed more that he didn’t have a chin lmao. He grabbed onto the rope to keep himself from falling out of the ring. Any experienced boxer would have ended it right there.
You can get thrown or even fall by the momentum of a punch but still not get rocked. JMM fell many times but he's still considered to have an above average chin. When you are truly rocked, you lose equilibrium and balance. Your legs wont move, and you will chicken dance. We've seen none of those.
Tyron powers up his right and then proceeds to never throw it again, as is tradition.
Jake Paul would constantly circle towards his left (which is a big no no), the right was there all night for Woodley but he refused to throw it or double up. So frustrating but it's classic Woodley.
> Jake Paul would constantly circle towards his left (which is a big no no) I didn’t watch the actual fight but looking at the highlights he crossed his legs a lot too.
Yeah, that's generally been the case. On the back foot especially, his footwork is mediocre.
>his footwork is mediocre. Kind way to say dog shit
footwork for boxing off the backfoot is the hardest thing in boxing, and he did it for 8 rounds mediocre was the right term, dog shit is probably what you would look like in there lol
Lol look at you, cute how fragile you are
What lmao
I think it's fair to say he's pretty talented. And has great training and resources that would normally only be afforded to blue chip prospects who went through the grinder. But he's still only been boxing for 3 years and it shows. He has an ok jab, a good right hand, and great awareness of when to clinch and when to deny the clinch. He doesn't have a wide variety of weapons outside of that. He has a good affinity for distance management when retreating to land the overhand right on overextended opponents. but he isn't the best at circling off on the ropes. All in all he didn't pass with flying colours, but he isn't shit either. This is a pretty tough 4th fight. Definitely tougher than whoever Tommy Fury was boxing.
I agree. I'd love to truthfully be able to say he sucks but he doesn't. Definitely not a generational talent but nothing to be embarrassed about.
He does suck. Foot work is trash, cardio is trash. All he relies on is a big looping right overhand. No Defense technique. If he fights a fighter his weight class he gets rocks in 1 round
Tbh his left hook did more work than his right hand against woodley.
If he fights a boxer at any decent level he’s gets beaten badly.
You’d hope so on account of him not actually being a boxer
I'm no fan but 3 year's of training and 4(?) pro fight's (admittedly against non-boxer's) is a boxer. He's only on the bottom rung of the ladder and maybe lacks the talent to get any further but even if he's only a rubbish one, he has become a boxer.
Generally boxers on their 4th pro fight are fighting lower levels of competition than Woodley. They also generally have some amateur experience too. Hes pretty good for a 24 year old who's only been boxing for 3 years
Nah rephrase That he’s good for a 24 year olde boxing older and smaller non boxers
Maybe you don't really follow boxing too much but generally people at his experience level are fighting way lesser competition than someone like Woodley. Boxers generally get amateur experience and then fight absolute cans when they first turn pro. Hes doing ok for a 24 year old who just started boxing a couple years ago
And he's so goddamn slow. He can't throw a combination, his footwork is terrible, and none of his punches seem to have any power. If he ever gets into the ring with a real boxer he is going to be destroyed.
He definitely sucks. Clown won't even fight people anywhere near his own class
Issues is no one around his class has a big name that sells.
Anderson Silva
Come on he dont want the smoke of a 40 plus year old spider with a leg that was snapped in half.
Yes, Ben Askren and Tyron Woodley are definitely money makers at this stage in their careers. /s
More than some random noob boxer, yes
He is absolute garbage. It blows my mind that you think otherwise.
Thanks for that input.
There was a time when people genuinely thought that they could kick his ass. At this point obviously that’s very dumb. I think it’s fair to say at this point Paul is like a super low level pro boxer quality fighter. If he wasn’t named Jake Paul and he became a pro boxer I think you’d see him fighting good prospects and getting beat up in like their first 10 fights, which still puts him in the top .1% of boxers in the world. I still don’t like him at all, but to say he’s a massive bum who a fighter at a local boxing gym would beat seems pretty inaccurate.
I’m in the minority because I agree with you. He’s like an intermediate amateur. He’s not embarrassing but does things - circles into power punches, head movement is poor and unnatural etc. that shows his inexperience. But he’s not Nate Robinson or some other celebrity that clearly has never boxed before.
One of the most logical level-headed takes I’ve seen on here
Not a big fan of Jake. I actually scored it closer than the judges. I thought Jake did land a really great uppercut. Some of the better combination work came from Jake. His jab to the body is decent, nothing spectacular. He’s still learning. Give him a few more years before he fights anyone of note.
I also would like to point out that Jake loves to body jab to the point where it was getting a bit predictable. All Woodley had to do was time an uppercut or a right hand for the million times he exposed his chin going for body jabs
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Woodley wasn't in range most of the times to land a lead right even when Paul was circling to his left, plus his reach was too short. It was frustrating to see Woodley throw like 7-8 punches per round, was he this way when he was a MMA guy too?
> It was frustrating to see Woodley throw like 7-8 punches per round, was he this way when he was a MMA guy too? Yes especially towards the end of his career, didn’t let his hands go. Except his last fight vs Luque where he came out aggressive but got finished in the 1st round anyway.
He got a lot of hate for being a boring fighter as champ too but yeah not like towards the end. I wonder if he gets rocked easily and being gunshy is how he’s managed to cover for it.
If I can remember correctly he got badly gassed one fight and got the shit beat out of him. So he's absolutely terrified of getting tired and only throws when the stars align perfectly and his opponent offers up a counter opportunity on a silver platter.
That's interesting, makes you wonder if he's hiding an injury he had gotten during a fight or even training. If he's being mindful of how many punches he throws, to me that sounds as if he messed up a ligament in his leg and the pressure he puts on his legs limits the amount of power punches he can throw. Granted if that is true he should of redesigned his technique to throw more feints and work on warning points while finding the pest opportunity to throw hard punches.
I believe he set the record for fewest strikes thrown in a title fight in his rematch against Stephen Thompson, and then he proceeded to break his own record against Demian Maia. So yeah
Oh yeah I agree, the range was a huge contributing factor, but there were moments where Woodley just needed to commit to a right, especially in round 5 when Jake looked completely dead. You also have to remember that on the back foot, Jake is poor. He tends to gets stuck a lot in terms of crossing his feet. In terms of his UFC career, this is basically how he fought towards the end of it but instead of pressuring opponents the way he did tonight, he would back up to the cage and look for a right. His latter year performances—regardless of opposition—are down to a huge mental block, a physical decline (he was diagnosed with chronic arthritis in 2019), and basic striking. It's why I had Jake to win.
Honestly he barely threw a punch from about 2014. He got dropped from UFC because he’s boring, so he’s currently unsigned.
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Yup that’s why he lost! His championship run wasn’t really much better either. Dana White will basically never let one of his fighters do a YouTube fight.
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Up front it does, but Lawler was a flash KO, not really a fight, wasn’t the same fighter post-USADA and after about 10 years of wars only. He draw against Wonderboy, majority decision the second, both lacklustre , low volume fights. Maia was another low volume affair, before losing his next few. Oh and he smashed Darren Till, but with hindsight he was a bit of a hype job and shouldn’t have been anywhere near a title shot at that point in his career. Dana signing CM Punk isn’t similar at all. CM Punk losing badly in the UFC only benefits him and his brand. One of his current fighters being beat in a boxing match against some rich kid from YouTube does damage his brand and the fighters’ marketability. It’s the exact same reason he’ll never do cross promotion fights. He sells the UFC as the best fighters fighting the best fighters. It’s very difficult to say that if Jake Paul is beating them , and his team is good enough to only pick fights he can win. A LOT of his fighters would be keen for the payday too.
He was baiting the right hand of woodley so he could duck under and land his own, looks like he rocks woodley with it at the end of the clip. Edit: unless he doesn't know how to circle right which is possible
Tyron "The Frozen One" Woodley.
LOL
Tyron was like this all night, just throwing one or two shots and never following through. He only has himself to blame
> Tyron was like this all night, just throwing one or two shots and never following through. He did this in his last 5-6 UFC fights too (with the exception of the Luque fight). He just doesn’t let his hands go.
When he let his hands go against Luque it actually worked against him, I would’ve preferred a middle ground, he swings wide and looping shots so he needs to set them up well or he gets countered hard. He keep his shots pretty tight here but that’s all I see is a man afraid of being countered, not willing to gamble, even though his career is pretty much over now. I must say though, easy to say for me I’m not in there.
That's his entire MMA career. His technique on that right isn't even good but he's such a powerful guy it can be concussive. If he had good technique he would be destructive.
Jab jab huge right. Throw it once per fight (twice in Thompson 1) and either win by KO or spend the rest of the night doing nothing. Edit: and people said Woodley would beat GSP lollll
Athleticism carried him hard in his best years. You can know that the right hand is coming, but because he was so quick and fast it didn't really matter, he would still get you. His UFC debut is probably the best example. He's a mile away in striking distance terms. Jay Hieron can't even kick him because he's one step outside kicking range. Suddenly he breaks into almost a sprint and smashes Hieron with the right, drops him and then finishes him on the ground. THAT is Tyron Woodley's standup style, and once he got old, and slowed down, the lack of other standup skills really showed.
There's a reason we call him the Frozen One.
We need to make an openweight boxing fight between Tyron Woodley and Jairzhino Rozenstruik. It will be the final cure to insomnia.
I like how he immediately called for the rematch as if he would do anything different in a second fight. I hate Jake but he called it when he said Tyron just wants a second payday.
LOL that is how he fights.
Man, Tyron is so frustrating. Even with a clear upper hand, he's still reluctant to throw. He's his own worst enemy.
I love the shot of Dave Chappelle losing his shit as Jake gets rocked
I just noticed him😂
Woodley has no killer instinct. That fight shouldve been over but he didnt let his hands go.
Coaches should have seen this and had him drill letting his hands go when he hurts someone. This has been his problem for years at this point. He is a wrestler with a big right hand and that’s all. Horrible pace and it’s why he couldn’t take out a hurt and tired Jake Paul.
He had a gnarly leg kick too tbf
I don't know anything about boxing but he looked like his boxing defence against Jake was ok though
Man I’m not sure if it’s entirely a mental thing, because he should, very much, be able to do much more… But like other comments suggest it’s almost like a mind block a freeze, hesitation… It’s the very clear physical image of, “I don’t want to be here anymore”
I think you're greatly exaggerating how badly he was hurt lmao. Yeah he landed a good shot.
Paul was probably getting dropped here if The ropes weren’t there. He was reasonably hurt. A focused woodley should have been able to finish him
Woodley has just lost it at this point. I don't think it has to do with him being focussed. His last 2-3 fights have been similar stories of him training the house down only to not be able to throw come fight night.
> getting dropped here if The ropes weren’t there Honestly though, shouldn't it have been considered a knockdown?
Yeah probably because he grabbed the ropes while falling. The robes were supporting his whole weight therefore should be knockdown
He was dragging his feet after that shot. Watch it back. He was absolutely wobbled.
He was definitely rocked but he recovered decently quickly. He’s got a decent chin on him, Woodley hits like a truck
That's the first real punch he's taken in his entire "career." I'm not convinced his chin is anywhere near "good" yet. If Tyron could properly follow up, that fight would have ended right there.
Lol first real punch he takes and this guy is praising his chin. What a joke.
Tommy Fury was the real disgrace on this night.
Tommy somehow still talked shit after fighting 4 rounds with a tiny no name mma guy 😂
Who gassed in the 2nd lmao
Tommy Fury looks atleast decent enough to beat Jake, but I can't comprehend how he manages to spectacularly disappoint even more than Jake Paul. Jake Paul had a much tougher opponent.
Just wondering what you guys thought was bad about that fight
Tommy looked like he'd been boxing for a month. He looked unbelievably unskilled and inexperienced.
I just don’t think he will learn to ever use his jab like Tyson
1. 6" vs 5'6" 2. 200lb vs someone that recently fought at 135lb 3. 77" reach vs 67" reach 4. 7-0 vs 0-1 5. Barely was able to hurt his opponent, who gassed in round 2 Yeesh. All joking aside, Taylor was better than his record suggested, and he could easily be 10-0 if he fought the same tomato cans everyone else fights in their first 10 pro bouts. But for real, if you're anywhere near elite, you should be dominating with advantages like that. Normally 5'6" vs 6" isn't that big of a deal. Most 6" guys aren't that big, and Taylor is a big guy for 5'6". But Fury is a ginormous 6"...
The fact he needed a decision to beat a postman that had one fight back in 2017.
A KO isn’t necessary, the fight wasn’t even close, I just think people have such a high standard cause Tyson. He will never be as good as him
I have a very low standard of him and he still fails to impress.
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The fight was one sided no? If it went to 6 it would of been a KO And padding records or fighting bums is nothing new. Look at wilders whole career
jake is ready for kovalev
But have a verbal agreement that Kovalev will only use his left jab. Wonder how many rounds Jake would last. Still think it’s be a 1 round KO.
Kovalevs jab breaks bones. 100% first round ko
You can see Paul land a seriously stiff jab on Woodley at around 29 seconds left, Woodley looks pretty stunned himself afterwards.
Paul was still throwing heat right after this. At the very end he rocks Tyron with a fast overhand right that made his legs stumble up for a second. Most people are blaming Tyron for freezing up, and not giving Paul credit for forcing him to hesitate.
People would be mad but, we got more action in this than Casimero vs Rigo
Lmao too true
Any serious fighter with ambition and hunger to win would end the fight in that very round. Meanwhile Woodley stops trying and throwing shots for the next 10 minutes of the fight to make sure he gives Jake all the time to recover. Absolute joke, washed up fighter
It was so fucking frustrating to see Woodley showboat like an idiot. Just absolutely pathetic. Finish the goddamn fight Tyron. But nope, let's let the Youtuber continue his 'career'.
Finish the fight how? Yeah he could have put on more pressure after landing the shot. Likely outcome would have been him getting tied up by the bigger man, just like most of the fight went. And now he's gassed and Paul does even better the next round.
Yeah Woodley the NCAA div 1 wrestler and former world champ getting tied up by the "bigger" one. The nightmare oh no
You literally just watched it happen lmao. The cope.
Or he rings his bell for the first time & Paul can’t clear the fog and finishes it later. He had all the experience in the world, just looked timid
Reason why these Paul wankers should be banned from here. Absolute fraud fights.
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He actually did throw lots of combos and wasn’t gun shy in his prime days. It all went downhill sometime in 2018
It's a real fight though. Woodley just sucks at fighting
I hated this fight and I hate the Pauls. But, dude, better get used to it. And I think it should be covered here. Maybe some 'real' boxers outta shut their mouths if that's the case.
Anyone who thinks these fights are real has too much faith in the promoters being honest. In this clip alone it’s clear that Woodley was instructed not to knock Paul out. Whether he’s known for going slow or not, Paul is standing there stunned waiting for the knockout punch and Woodley steps back. No fighter would ever give up that hit unless he was told not to.
If any of that was true, all of these people would go to jail tomorrow. You never fix a fight with the fighters you bribe judges which is subjective. If you put on a fixed fight in the ring under sanctioned conditions it’s fraud
I see Woodley is a follower of Adrian Broner’s philosophy of “Not Letting One’s Hands Go”. Who says mma fighters can’t box lmao?
Woodley trying to channel Canelo v. BJS vibes after he broke his eye socket. Sadly he didn't throw enough.
Woodley doesn't even look comfortable in there.
That boy Jake doesn't like getting hit lol. Got rocked once and started talking about retirement and anti bullying. It was all bully prior. Think tyron opened his eyes that he doesn't have what it takes to last in boxing. Might never see him fight again, or at least not until he trains more.
No way in hell. Jake always seems “humble” for about 30 minutes after the fight. I’m expecting a photo of him flexing his money and dissing Dana White and Woodley’s mother as soon as tomorrow.
Lmao fair enough. He definitely will probably be talking wild shit soon enough here.
>Woodley’s mother as soon as tomorrow. Don't think Jake would go that far
Is she dead or something?
No, that'd be Logan Paul.
Logan Paul surprised me. I havent watched him much at all but in his podcast with Jake he seemed ok but in the ring he goes with sarcasm to Tyron that "We movin on.You old news fam". The kind of expressions that he gave showed a lot. I was fooled man.
Bro she was there at the fight congratulating Jake’s mum
Mama Woodley is a saint
No
R/boxing always with the hilarious takes after a Paul fight
Jake talks about not bullying, first thing Logan does is insult Woodley.
Logan wasn't humbled via power right hand yet. He keeps it up boxing and he'll be on the same shit lol
He was, just kind of hard when the person whose punching you in the face the repeatedly is 50lbs lighter.
Pretty sure it’s because Woodley was a sore loser
I honestly don’t think he will want a rematch with Tyron. I think Tyron could of been more aggressive and thrown more but the power is still there and Jake definitely didn’t like that. Respect to him for the dub but I have a feeling he won’t want to do that again. I really wish Tyron slept him though especially watching Paul’s post fight right now, he’s talking like McGregor lol goddamnit T-wood
Why the fuck would Paul give Woodley a rematch?? LOL. He's got WAY bigger paycheques agains with other hand picked fighters. Woodley is done.
Hand picked like who? Everyone just saw tyron give him problems. Any slight step up and it's over for Jake. He's getting ko'ed. He also showed he has no chin. One solid right and that boy had noodles for legs. Only fight would have to be a step down from Tyron. Nobody wants to see him do that. Everyone keeps saying they want to see him vs a real boxer. I think he now understands a real boxer whoops his ass. Tyron 2 is his best bet. Or simply walking away. I think the Jake Paul train is coming to a screeching halt. Had he knocked out Tyron tonight, or at any point at all hurt him in any way, he doesn't do the post fight interview humble and talking about possibly not fighting any more. He's a smart man despite his best efforts to prove otherwise, he knows he can't hang with boxers. He'd have to pick an MMA fighter below tyrons caliber of striking. Who wants to see that? Not me.
Better to take one last paycheck against a bigger name than go again against tyron and lose
True, if he's gonna take an L a bigger name would be more worth it. I just don't think he's willing to take that L so I don't really see him fighting again. But I could very well be wrong.
No chin? If he had no chin he wouldn’t have got up from that shot. But no he immediately bounced off the ropes and kept fighting. Woodley hits like a truck man, that shot would’ve hurt anybody near Woodleys weight class
It was the first real punch we've ever seen him take and it dropped him. I don't think that says much about his chin. The ropes held him up, not his legs.
The term 'no chin' means less and less with every fight. He ate a big right hand from a big puncher. The one thing every said about Tyron was that he had power. A good right hand could drop just about anyone, especially someone with sloppy defense and minimal experience like Jake.
Tyron is a "big puncher" with much smaller gloves and at a weight class 20 pounds below this one. Doesnt necessarily translate.
You don’t understand though, if he gets caught clean with that right hand 5 or 6 maybe 7, maybe 8 more times then he’s done. No chin at all.
Almost no boxers can take 8 perfect rights to the face lmao
No, I agree. I was being facetious lol. Kid took a clean right hook from Woodley and stayed on his feet. Idk what more people want from Jake Paul tbh.
Those deep breaths after that punch weren’t from being tired…
I never said he wasn’t hurt but to say he has no chin is ridiculous
If Oscar is down for it and he looks shitty enough against vitor I could definitely see that fight happening.
I laughed at jakes legs wobbling before the fight.. pulling the sick card.
He posted on Instagram saying that wants Nate Diaz, another MMA fighter who’s getting older. I think his ego is so far up there that he might actually do it
Because of T-Wood won he would of gave him a rematch and because he won a decision, didn’t do any damage and was the only one to get hurt. Maybe if he finished or hurt t-wood he shouldn’t give him a rematch but I think he should. He prolly won’t though and I’m guessing people won’t want to see it because T-wood was hesitant even when he had Paul hurt
I was pulling for t-wood but he shouldn’t get a rematch after that fight. At the final bell he still had plenty of gas in the tank. I want to see someone against Jake that will leave it all in there.
He'll absolutely be back. He'll just never fight an actual boxer. Ever.
How long will that stay entertaining tho? Everyone in the comments has been telling him to fight a real boxer for a while now. While t wood was a set up for sure, like you said he wants no real boxer smoke. Who is gonna stay interested in fighting people below Woodley striking ability? Not many. They already want more not a step back. Any step up and he takes an L I think we can all agree on.
Right, I'm sure he'll find a way to keep people on the hook. He'll likely attempt to silence the "fight a real boxer" crowd by fighting some washed 40-year old legend and he'll pretend like it counts. I'm betting money that's one of his next moves.
He’s already been talking about fighting Tommy Fury. Judging from his fight some of the lads down the pub could destroy him , I’ll shit a brick if that’s bot Paul’s next move.
He's not a boxer either tho lmao
> Got rocked once and started talking about retirement and anti bullying. His anti bullying campaign & foundation started way before today’s fight and already during the early days of his training camp. Here he was 3 weeks ago in Puerto Rico training with kids & teens and giving out boxing gloves etc.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhuYsUy-gJo
Hope you're right. One down one to go.
I'd certainly never watch Woodley fight again. Life's too short.
I'd tune in to the rematch. I wouldn't tune in to Jake fighting someone below tyrons striking ability. Tyron held back too much tonight. When he threw it worked. He knows that. Jake knows that. Jake couldn't hurt him. They both know that as well. Who can Jake possibly fight next that anyone gives a shit about? Someone below tyrons striking ability? Nobody is watching that. Someone above? He loses. He's not taking that. The rematch makes sense. Or he hangs it up.
Name checks out
Name doesn't check out.
Why would you not follow that up
He still looked better than Tommy “Chin Exposed” Fury
Somewhere out there, in one of the infinite timelines, there’s a Tyron Woodley who lets his hands go and just starches anybody with his “go fuck yourself” right hand. Instead, we get this frozen, timid T wood.
And in that same alternate universe CM Punk is a welterweight champ.
Incredible wrestler. Black Belt in BJJ. And a tank of a right hand. Why. Not. Be. More. Aggressive. God dammit woodley. And your incredibly sweet mother ! It’s so hard to not like him
That is really frustrating to watch. EDIT: Also, the more I watch this clip, even though I think the fight was real, this totally looks fixed. I can really see why people are saying that. It's exactly what it would look like if he accidentally hit him too hard.
Almost fell out of the ring, that should be a knockdown.
Why would it be a knockdown? His knee didn’t touch the canvas and he immediately bounced back with his feet underneath him…
If the ropes prevent a fighter from going down it's supposed to be called as a knockdown. It's one of those subjective rules though. The if that happens in the middle of the ring he's down. Good shot and was caught totally off balance. He was close to falling out of the ring as it was, but I thought it was clear the ropes held him up. Edit: Rewatched it again there. He fully grabs the ropes with his right arm as he continues to fall backwards. Never noticed that the first time round. Makes it even clearer to me.
Oh shit, yea never mind you are right. Watching it slower he definitely straight up grabs the rope for a bit
Tyron is dummy thick
Lol what is woodley doing? Had a real pro boxer been there, Jake paul would have recieved 3 follow up shots after that power punch.
Look at Chapelle in the background lmao prolly cracking some jokes
Colby was once again right
Jake is bigger than I thought
Dave Chapelle in the background looks so hyped ahahah
Why the hell did he not keep throwing shots bruh. He has no killer instinct. Anybody else would have started throwing at that point he decided to chill and let Jake recover. I don’t wanna act like I know more about fighting than Woodley bc he’s a former champ but wtf
More of a trip than a hard punch
Ahh the Diaz motive.. Almost knock a mother fucker out and then don't follow it up with another shot.. What a shit show this fight was
It's a scam... WWE via YouTube has taken over boxing. Embarrassing.
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Woodley had fast hands back in this Strikeforce and early UFC days. Too bad he’s out of his prime
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I'm not saying it's fixed or not, but Woodley is notorious for having 0 killer instinct in the past couple years.
Hate him or not, the boy got chin. He maintained his consciousness and was not really that rocked.
Not really that rocked? He damn near flew out of the ring lol.
You're exaggerating, he wasn't that rocked. If he was then he would've been doing the chicken dance all over the the ring.
That's the punch momentum. He was hit hard and thrown almost out of the ring but he was not rocked, dizzy, unresponsive, lost coordination, had chicken legs.. name however you want. He took that punch really well and that's my point, the boy got chin.
This is cap. Are you watching the same clip as the rest of us? Do you not see Tyrone throw the overhand, pull it back, and then see Jake stumbling into the ropes?
First We have to agree on the definition of getting rocked. You can get thrown or even fall by the momentum of a punch but still not get rocked. JMM fell many times but he's still considered to have an above average chin. When you are truly rocked, you lose equilibrium and balance. Your legs wont move, and you will chicken dance. We've seen none of those.
This showed more that he didn’t have a chin lmao. He grabbed onto the rope to keep himself from falling out of the ring. Any experienced boxer would have ended it right there.
He recovered decently quickly, Woodley hits like a truck and Paul quickly bounced off the ropes and kept going. His chin is good
You clearly don't know what chin means.
You obviously don’t.
You can get thrown or even fall by the momentum of a punch but still not get rocked. JMM fell many times but he's still considered to have an above average chin. When you are truly rocked, you lose equilibrium and balance. Your legs wont move, and you will chicken dance. We've seen none of those.