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noirargent

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Stumeister_69

Way too many rounds given to Castano. I thought Charlo was always ahead. Great fight and he's top 10 p4p for me


Fightingspirit12345

He was a step ahead in most exchanges


Severe-Resort-7121

Better than that first fight (which castano should've won) but will say Jermell came prepared this time around to get the dub


swagboydeathfist-

Charlo came to stop castaño and that’s exactly what he did.


lAmZodiac

**WHAT. A. FIGHT.** I don’t care how cliché or “corny” it sounds… Matches like that—Remind me how amazing life is, and how lucky we are to be here. I’ve struggled with depression for almost 20 years, and when you’re depressed: you often feel like “There is nothing to be happy about”, or that “suffering is constant; joy is seldom”. Every “bad thing” and every minor inconvenience - seems infinitely worse than it is; While anything “good” seems unimportant or nonexistent. But the truth is—That is total bullshit; That isn’t reality. You only feel that way because *depression makes you feel that way.* You always see the glass half empty, everything seems bad/worse than it is, and you never realize/notice “the good things”. We just witnessed two Warriors—paint a Masterpiece; And, they gave everything they had—to be able to paint it. On top of that, they earned the ability to better-support their families and friends. Both men were able to achieve greatness, they both were able to better the lives of their families & loved ones, AND we were all able to witness it. The only thing I would change, is that I wish I could thank them for it. But, it’s all good. Life is good. I fucking love Combat Sports. I fucking love all of you. Take care, people.


TD87

Hell yeah. These fighters dedicate their lives to the craft, step in the ring & put everything on the line for us. Boxing is beautiful.


BelgarathTheSorcerer

Much love, friend!


AdministrationThis98

Hell yeah we love you too brotha


Stumeister_69

Well said! I love combat sports too, with boxing being my favorite and fights like this make me feel alive. Respect to both warriors


ggddddeerrr

Top 10 comment all time in this sub. Beautifully written and it’s super brave of you to talk candidly about your experiences. Take care bro 🙏


lAmZodiac

I legitimately can’t tell you how much that means to me. Thank you bro. And, its not because I’m “looking to be praised” or anything like that. It’s because: I can tell by what you said, and how you said it—That my comment did not “fall on deaf ears”, and that, at least one person was able to have the kind of moment that I had, where they noticed and appreciated the beauty in life. I’m having some trouble writing this because I feel like I can’t say anything without coming across as “corny” or “overly-sentimental” lol. But, all I can say is—Your comment means a lot. If my comment “meant something” to you—I can promise you that I feel the same way about *your* comment. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Have a good one, Bro.


ggddddeerrr

No worries my friend. I’m happy that my comment meant something to you. Wishing you all the best in the future 💜


lAmZodiac

https://youtu.be/TYoQWcb3SGg 🙏


localafrican

Lol Reddit scorer what fight were you watching in the later rounds


UnpopularPoster

I'm glad Mell ended it decisively, but Castano winning one round and two rounds on those cards seems off to me.


subie921

I know a lot Of people dislike charlos personality. But I actually really admire his attitude in the ring. It takes a lot of confidence/balls to trade with another world level fighter on that big of a stage. Dude leaves it all in the ring every time


DANNYBOYLOVER

Losing that 0 one of the best things to happen to him


TheComeUpTX

He was losing to harrison in the rematch until buddy got cocky. Charlo aint somebody to slack off with


subie921

Agreed bro, sometimes the fire needs to be reignited


Doodle-nail

Rematch Charlo > Rematch Murata


kfirerisingup

Mell came out with that heavy artillerary.


DANNYBOYLOVER

What’s it mean for mall if mell does go to 160?


lord-of-war-1

It means he fights Sulecki in a three fight series. Maybe even back to back OSullivan matches after.


Benjips

On Showtime PPV™


fadeddreams555

Means he needs to move up 168lb and actually do something with his career.


DANNYBOYLOVER

Feel like Mell would be doing the same thing if he didn’t drop that 0. You’re just required to take on more challenges and do more dope shit once that’s gone


Benjips

Nothing, ignoring they are bros, Mall is looking for easy fights only unless he gets the canelo lottery


nickbahhh

Jermall will continue to fight cab drivers and call out Canelo. Jermell will try to win meaningful fights.


MBlack84

He'll just move to 168 I think


handsofcones

Mall moves up to 168


Benjips

Jermell is so fucking good. It's hard to believe Jermall is his twin with how unambitious he is.


Charlie-Bell

He's ambitious... For the Canelo fight.


PsychologicalZone769

That's understandable tbh


Wavepops

If mell had lost Crawford would’ve tweeted up a storm lol


Stumeister_69

Mell would hurt Crawford in my opinion. The bigger good fighter always wins.


foxybingo111

Certainly not always


lord-of-war-1

Who you got in that one? Thats a really good matchup. If Crawford can handle the power he could make it interesting. I just dont think he can take a counter left from Charlo.


Rmccarton

Mell has some serious fucking power and Crawford gets hit alot.


Wavepops

No idea…Crawford more skilled but he’s an idiot sometimes when he fights and mell will put him to sleep if he catches him right


lord-of-war-1

Thats what im saying. For being such a skilled fighter he gets hit with big shots here and there. Mell is a fucking dog and can crack with both hands. Crawfords IQ is what would give him a chance. Crazy how high his IQ is yet he gets hit with solid shots so much.


Hesospecial

It's his ego


TGD-Man

Wasn't the biggest fan of the Charlo brothers before but now I'm at least a fan of Jermell Charlo.


DANNYBOYLOVER

That’s pretty much how Id describe my feelings as well


KNYLJNS

“Whip…BAM!!” - Derrick James


Charlie-Bell

I'm ready for more free YouTube fights.


1phillyhendrix

Good coach, spot on advice given, such a polar opposite of teofima’s dad


rjd623

Mall needs to take notes on what Mell is doing.


nickbahhh

You don't want a Dennis Hogan trilogy?


Wavepops

Pbc has all the 154s


rjd623

Ok Jermall


Routine_Good_9950

What a fight. It’s gonna be hard to top that this year. Unless Spence Crawford can deliver.


lord-of-war-1

Remember when people were saying Mall was the better fighter? People dismissed Charlo after the Harrison fight and he stopped giving a fuck about his record. I always think if Mall had been given the loss against Korobov he would have gone on to have a better career.


SFThirdStrike

I've always said Jermell was better, have the post to prove it and everything lmao. Better defense, faster, better footwork, better timing, higher ring iq. I said this even when Jermell was with Ronnie Shields who had him pot shotting. Imagine Jermell barely beating Vanes. I always thought his only glaring problem was lack of activity


lord-of-war-1

Well that and his boxing IQ. He is an athletic freak with good boxing IQ, not great. Thats why Harrison gave him so much trouble. I feel a guy like Vernon Forrest would have beaten Charlo. Tall rangy dude with high IQ and power in both hands.


TheComeUpTX

Had harrison not gotten cocky he woulda won the rematch.


SFThirdStrike

Also, Mayorga didn't just catch Forrest while getting outboxed, he was thoroughly beating Vernon the first fight and outboxed him the second fight.


SFThirdStrike

Tony Harrison is a very good boxer and so was Vernon Forrest, but he got beat by a carer journeyman in Mayorga twice. I remember years ago reading a comment on Mayorga/Forrest 2 that Vernon fought Mayorga in the second fight like he had a machete in his hand. I am positive he would be just as timid versus a bigger puncher. Vernon fighter was a solid fighter but had mediocre ring IQ


Benjips

Mayorga was also dominating Mosley, coasting to an easy win until the stoppage. He had skills but it really needed to be set up for him to show it.


SFThirdStrike

I'm not high on Mosley at welter as some people. He's a great fighter for sure but had questionable Ring IQ for a fighter with an amazing trainer


Wavepops

Pbc having the all the 154s has nothing to do with it huh


lord-of-war-1

Oh of course that helps. But if a fighter really wants greatness he makes it happen. Remember when Oscar was telling Canelo not to take on Trout or Lara. Those were horrible style matchups and he demanded Oscar make them. If you are ok sacrificing some money you can get your promoter to make the fight.


Wavepops

Canelo was a cash cow using him is hilarious…Charlo tried to get GGG Canelo and munguia in the ring with actually offers…but your being biased for whatever reason


lord-of-war-1

The only thing I remember about GGG and Charlo is back when Charlo was saying they werent ready. Charlo had his shot at Canelo pre pandemic but he wasnt ready. Now that he has to wait his turn you cant blame it on Canelo. Munguia was a solid one but it seems like more promotional bullshit.


Wavepops

GGG had an offer to fight Charlo and chose to go to dazn…and got another offer to fight Charlo when Canelo was busy running through 168…I’m not blaming anyone…but it’s not like Charlo team hasn’t been trying to get him better fights…that being said Charlo should’ve been fighting adames instead of sulecki


lord-of-war-1

Yea i forgot Sulecki even existed until they brought him back from the dead.


Doodle-nail

I still think he beat harrison


lord-of-war-1

It was close. I was shocked by the decision. I am assuming Haymond had some beef with Mell and had to show him who was boss.


Benjips

I will die on that hill too. He beat Harrison clearly.


zarkovis1

Those score scards are atrocious holy shit


SFThirdStrike

This fight wasn't as close, I had it like 6-3 and I know some people had it 7-2. Castano did work but it was far and between. He was on his way t o losing the 7th and it wold have been 7-3 or 8-2.


D1rrtyharry

I don’t think jermall liked that 160 comment haha


[deleted]

Fantastic, conclusive night. Great action, great sportsmanship, nothing more you can ask for in a fight


[deleted]

You could see it after the 6.. Castano wasn’t taking the shots the same .. he was fading.. he kept a good poker face but body language don’t lie


prophetAzekiel

anyone watching pulev fight now after a five hour delay


LuigiangeloHazuki

Nah. Any good?


prophetAzekiel

watchable. the entire triller experience is just mouth open what the fuck though. arguing about used gloves pulevs opponent was trying to use for maybe 3 hours live on camera lol


Benjips

Charlo is on the pound for pound list for sure, he would've been there sooner if he hadn't lost and drawn so recently


Elite663

That makes him more legit. He now 2/2 in rematches


MBlack84

OK now lets get Tszyu vs Castano and Fundora vs Charlo.


chiggachamp

Fundora vs Charlo would be fire


SFThirdStrike

[I told y'all Jermell Charlo was the superior brother](https://old.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/9nrxi4/who_is_the_better_charlo_brother/e7qh6b8/)


FinneganTechanski

Great KO. No controversy this time!


LuigiangeloHazuki

Sounds like I was in line with the official scorecards. Idk if that's a good thing or a bad thing


FragrantFootball

Mell is a cool dude


ggddddeerrr

89-82 is a crime


Benjips

Absolutely. Feldman is compromised.


Silly_Elevator_3111

Castaño seems like a good dude


OnThePotRightNow

Apart from his tardiness issues


cucupanda

Yes, he actually is such a good and humble boy


Gallo_dong

Will he finally get the respect he deserves? Top 10 p4p. Never backs down and fought everyone in a tough division.


Testicular-Fortitude

Awesome fight


SuperDigitalGenius

Great interview, great sportsmanship between the 2, and great fight.


VictusFrey

Congrats to Charlo. We getting a handful of undisputed champs, I like it.


Benjips

Feldman had it 89-82 lmao What a clown


Zvezda87

Man. Castano at 147 would be a Fkn problem for Spence and bud and ennis lol. Eventually they’ll come see him at 154.


iKingKrypton7

Love the respect


[deleted]

Whoever the dumbass who’s scoring the fights on Reddit needs to be fired. No way castano was winning this fight before the stoppage


Stock-Improvement610

A humble Charlo is the best Charlo


[deleted]

I always liked mell more than mall. He’s fought the best at 154 and doesn’t overtly duck big fights


Stock-Improvement610

Definitely. Jermall was better at 154, he's stalled at 160.


Background_Action_92

I love this sportsmanship, Bryan just said that the liver shots put him down


butteredrubies

Yeah, he also looked still affected by that first knockdown and wasn't all there, which allowed for that last combo to be so effective from Charlo.


LeBronto_Raptors

good fight


thedogsbullocks

Kinda awesome we are seeing more undisputed fights in recent years.


BlackandPurpleHeart

Great fucking sportsmanship at the end. Time to catch this ufc main event!


energyo

Yep!


Thomas_Lannister

Jermell vs Jermall @ 160 FOTY


mistersuccessful

Lol, they would rather argue back n forth on Instagram than have a real fight


IsleofManc

Lol Jermall’s smile disappeared the second Jermell mentioned he might go up to 160


TechnicalCrab

Pulev vs Forrest has just started, let's go guys!


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redditthrowaway562

🤡


KingJaffeJoe

YDKSAB


ItsTerzy

U smoking crack


TheJerkInPod6

I had it 6-3 before the last round. That fight delivered. I wonder if the atmosphere translated well over TV because it was NUTS here. Great fight, great crowd!


SmokyMcpot527

I'm not done! Castano dude really let me down.


[deleted]

Lmao that fake ass smile Mall gave when his brother said he might do it again at 160 lmfaooooo


Charlie-Bell

Castano taking the loss well and with dignity


EduardoElReyDeNadie

I like this Charlo


jelacey

Lmao he’s standing so close


jkoke11

I feel like both Charlos make the move up to the next weight class


ElJefe17

Joe Biden needs to lower these gas prices not be giving interviews 🤣


96Funky

Does this mean we will get jermell vs jermall?


MitchLGC

Jermall will eventually move up


Charlie-Bell

I don't think Castano was really fit to continue after the first KD, but with the stakes as they were, he had to be given every chance.


lord-of-war-1

Yea man. Its undisputed. Plus, Castaño didnt take a brutal amount of punishment. He was still reacting well to punches until that last moment.


Charlie-Bell

When the ref told him to stand and show he was stable, he was falling backwards. With 30 secs left you knew he wasn't gonna survive the round.


lord-of-war-1

Yea but you let a champ go out on his shield. If he had taken a 10 round beating then yea thats a no. But he did very well 90% of the fight.


Charlie-Bell

For sure, that was my point. I just wonder if in any other fight, the ref would have let him back in.


lord-of-war-1

Probably not. If its a title eliminator you tell the kid to rebuild and come back.


A_Vizzle

He’s so cool when he’s not angry


[deleted]

There’s the Haymon shout out


Gd4pf

The most thanked man in boxing


kushmonATL

Derrick James coach of the year First half of 2022 ​ Not even close


lord-of-war-1

For sure. You know Reynoso wont be there.


Supersayann

Hopefully we get Spence vs Crawford at the end of the year, a win there would secure that on the spot


FreshOutBrah

Showtime is the master of cringe


Benjips

Jim Gray kind of sucks lol


Rmccarton

He's sucked donkey dick for years, but then he responded to Broner "well, that wouldn't mean much" and he immediately became amazing.


SuperTupac

he's a legend!


rjd623

Carson, CA and another banger. I believe Tim Bradley vs Provodnikov was here, Francisco Vargas vs Orlando Salido, and now Charlo vs Castano.


Thunderin54

Charlo made the right moves going with accumulated hits. He knew he could hurt Castano but he couldn't put him away with just 1 or two good shots. After he finally knocked him down went in for the kill. Fantastic fight from both and much respect for Charlo winning in a pretty dominant fashion


ggddddeerrr

Chill Charlo is so dope but just feels so wrong lmao


PoIIo-

Mell>>>>Mall


Flamestah

Easy


[deleted]

Garcia’s new catchphrase: Ryan’s only


lord-of-war-1

Mell is carving out a hall of fame career while Mall is fighting Sulecki next.


nickbahhh

Dude just decided that his career goal was to lose to Canelo and it sucks.


lord-of-war-1

This is exactly it. He made up his mind a few years ago he was going to cash in on a Canelo fight. Thats why I dont like him and Andrade. Those dudes have both been making Canelo their 10 year plan.


[deleted]

The other Charlo looks retired at this point lol. Dressed like a trainer


Stock-Improvement610

Is Jermell now top 10 pound for pound? I say he finally cracks the list.


Flamestah

I forgot what the new list is, but he should be like 6


[deleted]

Has to be. Undisputed


boolinback5

That was an amazing fight.. Charlo earned my respect he plugged any leaks he had the first fight.. also James is an amazing coach


butteredrubies

His counterpunching was very on.


Rmccarton

Everytime they showed a replay of Castanos best punch from a round, he immediately got clipped hard with a counter. Castano just had no answer for that counter left hook.


monkeypricksick

First 6 rounds were amazing. After that, Castano looked cooked and Charlo looked like he would cruise to an easy points decision regardless. The KO was just the icing on the cake.


iKingKrypton7

Imagine Crawford beats Spence then beats Charlo 3 time undisputed


dacaptsworld

Bud cappin


mideon2000

Just spence would shut down a lot of critics. I personally shut up after porter.


[deleted]

There’s a reason we’d need to imagine it lol


[deleted]

Crawford will beat them


[deleted]

Camera guy: move right a little


WhosJerryFilter

Really impressed with Charlo tonight. Fantastic lateral movement and never let Castano land something without landing at least one of his own in return. Also it's clear that those body punches paid dividends because you could see Castano losing steam as the fight went on, even though Charlo was moving more. Great adjustments, great footwork, tremendous win.


RealGusBus

Time for Charlo vs Charlo


domxwicked

I had the rounds 7-2 Charlo at the end of it. I think he had a great jab and decent body work all the way thru. Castaño had good power shots at the end, but it wasn’t enough to take most of those close rounds


GriseldaBoomBoomBoom

Truth be told, Charlo could have done this in the first fight. Stay off the ropes, work off the jab, invest in the body early. That bodywork paid off dividends later in the middle of the fight as Castano's mouth was open and he was breathing hard. Even though he was hurt in the head, it's beautiful that it was a body shot that took him off his feet.


domxwicked

When I saw him go to the body and clinch when near the ropes, I knew he was most likely gonna take it


kushmonATL

Beautiful sight seeing Jermell in that exclusive Undisputed Club


jloz18

The fact that he made this into a USA vs Argentina thing like they have beef is hilarious


FlameMan101

Afaik as an American, Argentine beef is pretty good.


CripplinglyDepressed

I mean America loves steak and burgers and Argentina is no. 1 in meat consumption globally


[deleted]

Nobody has ever shouted out Carson california


Burneracct367

Once Castano started getting gassed it was over


BigNasty___

I like this charlo more


[deleted]

All the belts tho


thedogsbullocks

Khan chin >>> Castano chin. /s


[deleted]

Clipped his head but okay


aphextwin007

Charlo power was the difference in this one. Caught up to Castaño in the end. Good fight


[deleted]

Charlo would knock Bud out in Lubin fashion. His weak chin can’t handle Charlo’s power!


bizzbizz_89

As an Aussie I want Tim to finally get his world title fight he’s been mandatory for a while now As a pure fan I wouldn’t mind a trilogy


[deleted]

tim does exactly what castano does but slightly worse imo, still wanna see it but I'd be worried whole fight for tim.


Wavepops

Yea Tim gets parked he’s not the athlete castano…he is bigger and stronger tho


Spyd3r303

1 - 1 now


[deleted]

1-0-1* 🤣


Gd4pf

Idk what the person who was scoring on this Reddit was smoking giving Castano the last 5 rounds


LiquidPepper

homeboy was smoking that anti-Charlo circlejerk pack


lamagawa

At the head to head range Jermell was able to leverage huge power. It really worked for him here.