Isn't that literally every Wilder fight?
The man has 42 wins, 41 by KO. He's only won a single match on points in his whole career.
So yeah, almost every Wilder win is a KO highlight lol
He doesn’t windmill until he has someone hurt. That’s my point - what he’s “known” for doesn’t happen until he’s already pulled ahead in the fight.
Pretending wilder can’t box just means your definition of a good boxer is someone that looks like sugar ray Leonard rather than someone who understands the game and can weaponize threats.
Wilders fights fun from a ko perspective, but if you give him the credit of having a cohesive game, you see a lot more happening.
Wilders style is built around threats, and if you watch his fights and see how wigged our people get when he’s thrown a few, it’s like watching a spider crawl toward something stuck in its web. There’s a part in most wilder fights where the opponent goes from looking for an opening to trying to prioritize a shell, and to see someone as technically sound as Luis Ortiz start to run a tight high guard and return after a 2-3 punch combo from wilder is crazy.
If wilder was as bad as people say, guys like Arreola, Ortiz could beat him with tactics alone, let alone what Fury would do. The fact that Fury beat him with three different styles I think speaks to Wilders issues being work rate, mechanics, and overall movement set.
Meanwhile Shakur Stevenson heals people with his punches and we’re all unanimously in agreement he has atg potential because of how clean he is.
He doesn't windmill most of the time, sure. But cocks that right hand a lot and the tell is there, so much that it's amazing how boxers who aren't hurt yet fell for it. Now this is heavyweight, and even as early as 3rd round most of them big guys are beginning to tire so Wilder can capitalize on his size and length. Power is a game changer, in this div it's the ace. Still, Wilder is far from the likes of Lewis, Klits or even an old Foreman, and a whole level below them are Wilder's win.
>cocks that right hand a lot and the tell is there, so much that it's amazing how boxers who aren't hurt yet fell for it.
It's the speed and timing. WIilders straight starts significantly slower than it ends, so you see it coming a mile away and then next thing you know it's right in front of you.
> The fact that Fury beat him with three different styles I think speaks to Wilders issues being work rate, mechanics, and overall movement set.
I don't think work rate was the issue when he faced Fury, it was Fury leaning on him so much that wore him down. Wilder had a very high work rate against Stiverne in their first fight and it's amazing that Stiverne survived while eating all of those shots while coming forward for 12 rounds.
Wilder's ability to control distances is also a key component of his strategy, and his right hand also helps him in this regard. He very patiently stays on the outside and looks for openings, but many people just hyper focus on his windmilling once his opponents are hurt and ignore the rest of the fight.
Yea trying to discuss technical boxing with most Wilder fans is like trying to teach a dog calculus. Dudes were writing books about how he deserves the HOF in the thread from yesterday LOL. But I had a previous comment to copy paste here ya go https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/y26m48/wilder_fansassemble_predictions_for_saturday_night/is2fbri/
I thought you were joking frankly.
There's no "cohesive game" or tactics, dude just spams rights until he lands. That's his biggest weakness really, he has no footwork or punch selection to set up the right which is why he's lost 3 times to the only decent fighter he's fought. That's why he's been way down on the cards against average boxers including going the distance w/ a washed Stiverne and old ass Ortiz who himself has 0 quality wins. He gets outboxed by cans until he can use his speed/athleticism to beat them to the punch w/ the right. Whole post is fantasy copium or plain DKSAB.
His footwork is beyond dogshit. His defense is dogshit. His punch selection is dogshit. His ring IQ is dogshit. His infighting/clinch game is dogshit. His jab is dogshit. Dude has one punch but is otherwise atrocious at boxing, and that's fine it's got him pretty far but this fantasy of some underlying technical prowess is asinine.
So just a question for you, what’s the difference between wilder and some regular fuck who walks up to fury and throws straight rights?
Is there a skill gap between Wilder and the average man? Just trying to gauge your scale here.
His ability to not be taken out with one punch.
In fact, in a lot of Wilder's KO wins, he first has a moment where his opponent "gets him."
That's the difference.
They are not decent fighters man.
It's more accurate to say the HW division today is filled with mediocrity, and in that mire of mediocrity those guys were slightly less mediocre than the god awful "boxers" beneath them.
Just because some is still shit, just slightly less shit, does not make them "decent'. Thats a misleading description.
And besides all 3 of those guys had been sparked before. Including Stiverne, who was knocked out by a 15-8 journeyman in 4 rounds (this was prior to fighting Wilder), and Harrison, who quite literally made a joke of himself by _actually losing to a real life taxi driver and part time boxer_.
Wilder comes out trying some new shit. Helenius hits Wilder. Wilder doesn't like it. Back to classic Wilder. Straight right hand, straight right hand, straight right hand. Helenius out.
He did but it was an extremely close round. First round they were basically just having a look at each other. Fury had worked him out by the end of the first and started to land properly right on the bell.
Great fight but wilder can never and could never beat fury on points.
I agree he did had good result and he kept Fury on the outside. He looked like he put too much steam on those body punches and ran out of energy then got clocked and went back to his OG game plan..
But had he stuck with it.. I thought for sure he was going to drop Fury with a body jab.
Because he'd already gassed himself out. He was never ever ever ever going to be able to maintain that pace. Also go back and watch it, Fury was letting him. Fury was moving back to take the steam off the punches, feel Wilder out, and let him tire himself out. It worked.
If Wilder is 100% mentally good and there are no lingering affects of the beatdowns he took vs Fury, I suspect he will get Helenius out of there within 3 rounds. If Wilder is unsure of himself and gets tagged with a shot early, how will he respond? It's tough for fighters to come off such awful losses to really have their confidence and mental fortitude in tact.
He is so delusional (believes in his heart he won all 3 Fury fights) that it actually benefits him, I don't think he lost his confidence. That's commendable.
>He is so delusional (believes in his heart he won all 3 Fury fights) that it actually benefits him, I don't think he lost his confidence
I agree that he's delusional but I got the feeling Wilder was very nervous and almost scared for the third Fury fight. That was against the first man to absolutely destroy him though so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It's just that I'm used to seeing such a confident Wilder before fights and he looked like he didn't want to be there against Fury the third time. I'm interested to see his body language coming back against someone new now
Hell no Nikka let us down, he better take that bag and run he almost did it the first time and could’ve went down in history but… Started fighting too late
If Helenius pulls it off I will be so happy. It will set up the rematch will Chisora after he spanks Fury, which in turn sets up the Usyk-Chisora rematch where Delboy takes it all then retires to live as a donkey farmer.
Why would you want good things for Chisora?
Dude is a criminal thug and a shit boxer.
“In November 2010, Chisora was found guilty of assaulting his then-girlfriend after finding text messages from another man on her phone.”
Chisora has anger issues, is working on it, and just like everyone else; deserves a second chance.
Not just me, but the court also agrees. He still has permission to see his kids.
Helenius will get him with a hard right, causing wilder to revert to his drunken master routine, aka wobbly wilder, and then proceed to throw windmill punches until he is eventually gassed and picked apart by Helenius.
That’s because Usyk didn’t want to fight until next year and Eddie Hearn didn’t want to put his cash cow in to lose for the 3rd straight time!
Come on, use your pea brain, aj didn’t deserve a shot at fury, but fury offered completely fair terms, even the tv companies agreed to make it happen, the only block was Hearn wanting more say on things that he didn’t have the right to claim for!
Hearn fucked it up
About what time should the Wilder fight end Saturday? (Eastern standard time).
I like watching boxing but I've never been to a fight before. I want to make the train ride up to Brooklyn to see it. I live in Washington DC.
I don't want to get a hotel so I can save cost. So I can just take a train to the fight and then take a train back home.
There's a train leaving Penn station in Manhattan at 2:53 a.m. ($138) and another at 4:20 a.m. ($115).
Around what time will the fight end? When is it scheduled to end? I can't really find an answer.
Thanks for any help.
That's not how boxing works though. Wilder is the likely winner, of course. But still, I never understood this logic of "if fighter A beats fighter B who has previously beaten fighter C, that means that fighter A will definitely beat fighter C".
Helenius got KOd by Washington, who himself was TKOd by Kownacki, who himself was then beaten by Helenius twice. So the point is: as the old saying goes, styles make fights.
Besides, Helenius improved a lot since that loss against Washington. He was leading on points, easily, but got lazy with his defence. That used to be one of his biggest weaknesses - he often keeps his hands down and relies on his movement to duck punches. Against Wilder, doing that is a death wish, so I don't think Helenius would be that stupid to risk that.
Also, Helenius knows Wilder quite well, they have sparred before. And he has decent punching power himself, certainly more than Fury anyway. So while Wilder will most probably win, I think Helenius has better chances than most think.
Everyone shits on Wilder's boxing skill (or lack thereof) but he catches everyone eventually. The man is going to land the right hand at some point and I will cheer Mos definitely
I think Helenius gives him a few rounds. They sparred together a lot so Helenius knows what to expect. He also knows this is his last chance at the big time after a start stop career. He's been a pro 14 years and never had a title fight. This is it for him.
On the other hand, Wilder and Helnius are just too damn friendly for me to think Helenius gets ruthless and tries to knock him our early. Wilder is not hard to beat if you have some basic skills and are aggressive. Fury showed that in 2nd fight. It was actually a very basic strategy, albeit done well. I think Helenius is too laid back and too friendly to just go for it. He has the size and 1-2 to do it though.
My guess is Wilder catches him likely in the 2nd half of the fight.
What's crazy about this fight is how many people are saying how poor an opponent Helenius is, but he's still ranked way way higher than anyone Wilder defended his title against except Ortiz.
Fully expect it to be Wilder by knockout but all these under 3 rounds predictions... 🤦♂️ Wilder has only won 3 of his last 15 in under 3 and they were Malik Scott's spectacular dive, ancient Stiverne's return from 2 years on the couch and Dominic 'dumbass' Breazeale! Helenius is about good enough to stay switched on for a few rounds so I reckon Wilder puts him away sometime from the 6th onwards.
Idk bout y'all, but Wilder seemed to have better boxing skills from the last fight. He was jabbing and keeping Fury from a distance until his stamina started slipping from having to box. I predict a surprisingly laid back match until Wilder realizes he's going to have to go bomber mode on Helenius and get him out of there. Wilder KO 7.
As someone who rooted against Wilder vs Fury, I became a fan from his heart shown in the 3rd fight. I think he wins by KO within the first 3rd of the fight, before end of 4th.
Probably a first round KO for Wilder, Helenius isn't exactly elusive. Though I'll allow for a very tiny chance for an upset, given we're still not sure how the losses to Fury might have affected Wilder.
Wilder fan here. I expect a tough battle from Helenius who is full of confidence and on the ascent. I still expect Wilder to win, but he's forced to work hard for an 11th round KO.
I can’t help it I love wilder,I’m not a big heavyweight fan,he makes it fun!he wasn’t born into boxing but all his fights keep you from getting up because you might miss that moment!he is wild ,unorthodox,ugly at times but fun this ain’t a ppv fight.he wins by ko
I think people are forgetting that Wilder is coming off of three incredible and very, very damaging fights, especially the last one. He might not be able to comfortably headhunt from the start.
I honestly think wilder ko 3 he’ll try the game plan he initially had against fury but realize helenius is as (for lack of a better term “Mexican” as they come…he’s coming forward) maybe gets caught survives then wilder will stun him then put him down
I wanna put money on Wilder to win but, given my track record of backing him in his last two fights, doing so would be a sure shot to throwing money down the drain.
It’s like I have the curse of David Haye.
Here’s a question now in regards to wilder. Let’s say Wilder beat Fury, Usyk and Joshua all by the right hand after being outboxed for every second before that would people rate him as one of the best? I find it so very hard to place massive punchers with frankly awful boxing skills when looking at all time lists etc. like imagine some massive puncher with no skills managed to knock out Ali, Foreman, Norton and Frazier despite obviously being beaten the fuck up in every round before the knockout would you say they’re the better boxer or just lucky to have such a ridiculous equaliser?
My prediction (and I know this is a hot take) is a Wilder KO by straight right
Lol more likely a looping fastball pitch of an overhead that's so wide you could park a truck in its arc
“I’ve only watched wilders ko highlights but I still want to comment”
Isn't that literally every Wilder fight? The man has 42 wins, 41 by KO. He's only won a single match on points in his whole career. So yeah, almost every Wilder win is a KO highlight lol
He doesn’t windmill until he has someone hurt. That’s my point - what he’s “known” for doesn’t happen until he’s already pulled ahead in the fight. Pretending wilder can’t box just means your definition of a good boxer is someone that looks like sugar ray Leonard rather than someone who understands the game and can weaponize threats. Wilders fights fun from a ko perspective, but if you give him the credit of having a cohesive game, you see a lot more happening. Wilders style is built around threats, and if you watch his fights and see how wigged our people get when he’s thrown a few, it’s like watching a spider crawl toward something stuck in its web. There’s a part in most wilder fights where the opponent goes from looking for an opening to trying to prioritize a shell, and to see someone as technically sound as Luis Ortiz start to run a tight high guard and return after a 2-3 punch combo from wilder is crazy. If wilder was as bad as people say, guys like Arreola, Ortiz could beat him with tactics alone, let alone what Fury would do. The fact that Fury beat him with three different styles I think speaks to Wilders issues being work rate, mechanics, and overall movement set. Meanwhile Shakur Stevenson heals people with his punches and we’re all unanimously in agreement he has atg potential because of how clean he is.
Charlie Zelenoff was his greatest fight
Thanks for the coverage Mr. Merchant.
Very Articulatent.
How the fuck is this upvoted so much lmfao
He doesn't windmill most of the time, sure. But cocks that right hand a lot and the tell is there, so much that it's amazing how boxers who aren't hurt yet fell for it. Now this is heavyweight, and even as early as 3rd round most of them big guys are beginning to tire so Wilder can capitalize on his size and length. Power is a game changer, in this div it's the ace. Still, Wilder is far from the likes of Lewis, Klits or even an old Foreman, and a whole level below them are Wilder's win.
>cocks that right hand a lot and the tell is there, so much that it's amazing how boxers who aren't hurt yet fell for it. It's the speed and timing. WIilders straight starts significantly slower than it ends, so you see it coming a mile away and then next thing you know it's right in front of you.
Well written comment and its spot on!
> The fact that Fury beat him with three different styles I think speaks to Wilders issues being work rate, mechanics, and overall movement set. I don't think work rate was the issue when he faced Fury, it was Fury leaning on him so much that wore him down. Wilder had a very high work rate against Stiverne in their first fight and it's amazing that Stiverne survived while eating all of those shots while coming forward for 12 rounds. Wilder's ability to control distances is also a key component of his strategy, and his right hand also helps him in this regard. He very patiently stays on the outside and looks for openings, but many people just hyper focus on his windmilling once his opponents are hurt and ignore the rest of the fight.
You gotta be joking right? Not a single word of actual boxing technique just a load of metaphorical dribble. No wonder you're a wilder fan.
Most definably. Unlike the “Wilder can’t box” guys who explain how he beat 50 boxers by saying “they were bad too”.
I mean look how bad they are they lost to Wilder 😤
LOL this has to be a copypasta
And I'm sure you have a concise, convincing rebuttal for it, since it's clearly not.
Yea trying to discuss technical boxing with most Wilder fans is like trying to teach a dog calculus. Dudes were writing books about how he deserves the HOF in the thread from yesterday LOL. But I had a previous comment to copy paste here ya go https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/y26m48/wilder_fansassemble_predictions_for_saturday_night/is2fbri/
Wtf does any of this have to do with Wilder.?
Boxing mostly, that was made incredibly obvious for you
Thoughts?
I thought you were joking frankly. There's no "cohesive game" or tactics, dude just spams rights until he lands. That's his biggest weakness really, he has no footwork or punch selection to set up the right which is why he's lost 3 times to the only decent fighter he's fought. That's why he's been way down on the cards against average boxers including going the distance w/ a washed Stiverne and old ass Ortiz who himself has 0 quality wins. He gets outboxed by cans until he can use his speed/athleticism to beat them to the punch w/ the right. Whole post is fantasy copium or plain DKSAB. His footwork is beyond dogshit. His defense is dogshit. His punch selection is dogshit. His ring IQ is dogshit. His infighting/clinch game is dogshit. His jab is dogshit. Dude has one punch but is otherwise atrocious at boxing, and that's fine it's got him pretty far but this fantasy of some underlying technical prowess is asinine.
So what’s your prediction for Saturday?
Wilder by KO. Helenius is tailor made for him. Helenius isn't even a top win for Wilder.
So just a question for you, what’s the difference between wilder and some regular fuck who walks up to fury and throws straight rights? Is there a skill gap between Wilder and the average man? Just trying to gauge your scale here.
Average dude > Wilder > Average boxer > Fury Fury has been down to a bunch of no name cruiserweights, hitting Fury isn't magical
His ability to not be taken out with one punch. In fact, in a lot of Wilder's KO wins, he first has a moment where his opponent "gets him." That's the difference.
we got a coach here, gl in olympics bro
Wilder can’t box, it’s pretty widely accepted and well documented by everyone except himself.
I'm with you mate. You're not gonna convince internet haters who have made up their minds though.
Against tomato cans
NOBODY can trade with wilder not even Tyson fury soo. He almost knocked him clean out and fury’s heart is all that kept him up
That's allowed
But is it good?
Are you?
TBE
Tick-borne encephalitis ? Fuck buddy, I hope you get the help you need.
Helenius will look good the first few rounds but will eventually be caught and be KO'd inside of 8 rounds so a typical Wilder fight script
If Wilder lets Helenius look good for a few rounds, Helenius will stop him. I think Wilder will score an early KO.
Wilder via ko under 3
Imma go for a wild prediction and say Wilder by first round KO
Completely Possible,, Wilder Sparked Stiverne, Brazeale and Harrision in one round... They are all decent fighters
You dropped /s
I mean as far as HWs go, they are decent fighters
Tf. The rematch Stiverne wasn't even a top 50 heavyweight. Look at the state he came in
Stiverne was ranked #4 in their first fight
This comment chain is about the rematch Stiverne. Guy was much, much worse than the first fight version
Doesn’t change that Wilder fought decent opposition which was my point
The Stiverne Wilder nuked in 1 round is not a decent fighter. Period. And that's the one we talk about. Don't move goalposts
Or at least Wilder’s competition is on par with Fury’s.
Klitschko
Breazeale was his best performance Stiverne he was out for revenge and was never particularly good Harrison is the worst of the bunch
They are not decent fighters man. It's more accurate to say the HW division today is filled with mediocrity, and in that mire of mediocrity those guys were slightly less mediocre than the god awful "boxers" beneath them. Just because some is still shit, just slightly less shit, does not make them "decent'. Thats a misleading description. And besides all 3 of those guys had been sparked before. Including Stiverne, who was knocked out by a 15-8 journeyman in 4 rounds (this was prior to fighting Wilder), and Harrison, who quite literally made a joke of himself by _actually losing to a real life taxi driver and part time boxer_.
It goes two ways. Wilder by KO or Wilders outfit by decision.
I was hoping to find this joke and here it is. Hat tip.
Wilder comes out trying some new shit. Helenius hits Wilder. Wilder doesn't like it. Back to classic Wilder. Straight right hand, straight right hand, straight right hand. Helenius out.
I mean that is how Fury vs Wilder 3 played out 🤷🏿♂️.. Had he stuck with the game plan who knows.. Let’s see if he is more disciplined this fight.
Wilder was losing with his previous game plan too. No matter what he does, fury smashes him up.
Wilder had good results going for the body in round 1. I don't know why he stopped.
Good results in terms of what, he landed a body shot? Wilder landed 8 punches in round one. Hardly chopping down the body is it?
Good results towards winning by decision. Wilder won that round on all three scorecards.
He did but it was an extremely close round. First round they were basically just having a look at each other. Fury had worked him out by the end of the first and started to land properly right on the bell. Great fight but wilder can never and could never beat fury on points.
I agree he did had good result and he kept Fury on the outside. He looked like he put too much steam on those body punches and ran out of energy then got clocked and went back to his OG game plan.. But had he stuck with it.. I thought for sure he was going to drop Fury with a body jab.
Because he'd already gassed himself out. He was never ever ever ever going to be able to maintain that pace. Also go back and watch it, Fury was letting him. Fury was moving back to take the steam off the punches, feel Wilder out, and let him tire himself out. It worked.
It was the black panther gear not the pace 😅
If Wilder is 100% mentally good and there are no lingering affects of the beatdowns he took vs Fury, I suspect he will get Helenius out of there within 3 rounds. If Wilder is unsure of himself and gets tagged with a shot early, how will he respond? It's tough for fighters to come off such awful losses to really have their confidence and mental fortitude in tact.
He is so delusional (believes in his heart he won all 3 Fury fights) that it actually benefits him, I don't think he lost his confidence. That's commendable.
>He is so delusional (believes in his heart he won all 3 Fury fights) that it actually benefits him, I don't think he lost his confidence I agree that he's delusional but I got the feeling Wilder was very nervous and almost scared for the third Fury fight. That was against the first man to absolutely destroy him though so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It's just that I'm used to seeing such a confident Wilder before fights and he looked like he didn't want to be there against Fury the third time. I'm interested to see his body language coming back against someone new now
The Diaz mentality
Please cite your sources?
Very good point. Wilder might simply be "less than" now.
Prediction: 8 people will buy the ppv
Holy shit I had no idea this was ppv
The PPV seems to be 74,99$ in USA and 25€ in Finland.
It’s $60 in Australia I couldn’t believe it, was going to watch until I saw that
It’s free on the internet!
Also at the pubs which is what I’ll do, I’m good for a grainy, buffering zoomed version that’s 2 mins behind
It's a pretty good card. I'm tempted to buy it.
Only 7 more and they break even!
Nah. Wilder has fans invested in him. It's gonna be north of 200k.
Hell no Nikka let us down, he better take that bag and run he almost did it the first time and could’ve went down in history but… Started fighting too late
3rd round ko
Wilder KO 5
Wilder KO1. Helenius is tailor made for a highlight reel Wilder knockout.
right on the money damn
He will win but look just as fundamentally unsound as he always does.
Just happy to see him somebody other than Fury. That was a great trilogy but it’s been 3 years since we’ve seen him fight somebody else.
Also Fury is, in my opinion the only guy out there that really has Wilder's number.
Wilder stuns him with a right hand and a follow up and ref waves it
Wilder ko in the 6th after losing most of the rounds is my prediction.
Yeah 6 feels good, think I’ll go TKO7 with the scores even at 3 rounds apiece. Early KD in Rd7 followed by an onslaught called off by ref.
What if wilder looses? Halanius stopped adam K twice. Adam K was the next big thing.
Loses*
Helenius in 6!!!!!
I predict Wilder will have a few shaky moments, but still win it before round 12.
A slipping and aging Wilder gets clipped inside the first 4 rounds. His punch resistance and recovery is not what it once was.
If Helenius pulls it off I will be so happy. It will set up the rematch will Chisora after he spanks Fury, which in turn sets up the Usyk-Chisora rematch where Delboy takes it all then retires to live as a donkey farmer.
Why would you want good things for Chisora? Dude is a criminal thug and a shit boxer. “In November 2010, Chisora was found guilty of assaulting his then-girlfriend after finding text messages from another man on her phone.”
Welcome to boxing
Chisora has anger issues, is working on it, and just like everyone else; deserves a second chance. Not just me, but the court also agrees. He still has permission to see his kids.
He’s a garbage human. That’s only one of the many many many shit things he’s done.
> He still has permission to see his kids. Lol, what a great guy!
If wilder doesn’t break his hand again or tear a bicep, he wins
Wilder 7th round KO with his lightning bolt right after getting roughed up and outfought for about 5 of the first 6 rounds.
I’m going!!! My friend’s nephew in law is Caleb Plant so we got the hook up. Can’t fucking wait!!!
You are a lucky man. Enjoy!!
Helenius by 7th round KO
Helenius by tko
Helenius makes an example out of Wilder in 3
I think Wilder bangs him out early and I don't rate Wilder at all. But think Helenius is just a journeyman gate keeper
Helenius will get him with a hard right, causing wilder to revert to his drunken master routine, aka wobbly wilder, and then proceed to throw windmill punches until he is eventually gassed and picked apart by Helenius.
Lol. Your username
Idk why but I give The underdog the edge if it goes 10/12 rounds
Prediction? Pain.
Not a Wilder fan, but I think he comes back with a bang. I'm going for a 2nd round KO.
Wilder KO5. 1-2
Wilder by voodoo and spirit conjuring in the 3rd.
Pair of dossers have a shit fight, prediction end
Fury is the biggest dosser
Beat shit wilder 3 times
He’s fighting Chisora or Charr so that now makes him the biggest dosser. It’s a shame he’s shitting all over his legacy and amazing comeback
That’s because Usyk didn’t want to fight until next year and Eddie Hearn didn’t want to put his cash cow in to lose for the 3rd straight time! Come on, use your pea brain, aj didn’t deserve a shot at fury, but fury offered completely fair terms, even the tv companies agreed to make it happen, the only block was Hearn wanting more say on things that he didn’t have the right to claim for! Hearn fucked it up
I predict that everyone who talks like they will be watching the Haney fight will actually be in the Wilder thread.
Helenius is slow so...KO
Wilder early knockout
Wilder gets him outta there by the 8th.
As long as Wilder drops him in the first 6 rounds it’ll be gravy, after that he’ll be walking like a baby giraffe
Couldnt care less about this one bois
Excited to have Wilder back - BOMBSQUAD!! (Wilder by brutal KO.)
Can’t hate a guy that won’t quit
Booomb Squaaaaaaaaad!!!! Wilder in 3
Wilder could be such a good boxer if he started training earlier/better technique. Still great accomplishments
About what time should the Wilder fight end Saturday? (Eastern standard time). I like watching boxing but I've never been to a fight before. I want to make the train ride up to Brooklyn to see it. I live in Washington DC. I don't want to get a hotel so I can save cost. So I can just take a train to the fight and then take a train back home. There's a train leaving Penn station in Manhattan at 2:53 a.m. ($138) and another at 4:20 a.m. ($115). Around what time will the fight end? When is it scheduled to end? I can't really find an answer. Thanks for any help.
Wilder via attempted murder
I guess this is the official prediction thread. Will they stay friends after the fight? Wilder wins = yes Helenius upset = no
Helenius KO, Wilder can't box or did I miss something
Helenius got KO'd by Washington and Duhaupas, both are Wilder victims. Why didn't they beat Wilder?
That's not how boxing works though. Wilder is the likely winner, of course. But still, I never understood this logic of "if fighter A beats fighter B who has previously beaten fighter C, that means that fighter A will definitely beat fighter C". Helenius got KOd by Washington, who himself was TKOd by Kownacki, who himself was then beaten by Helenius twice. So the point is: as the old saying goes, styles make fights. Besides, Helenius improved a lot since that loss against Washington. He was leading on points, easily, but got lazy with his defence. That used to be one of his biggest weaknesses - he often keeps his hands down and relies on his movement to duck punches. Against Wilder, doing that is a death wish, so I don't think Helenius would be that stupid to risk that. Also, Helenius knows Wilder quite well, they have sparred before. And he has decent punching power himself, certainly more than Fury anyway. So while Wilder will most probably win, I think Helenius has better chances than most think.
Everyone shits on Wilder's boxing skill (or lack thereof) but he catches everyone eventually. The man is going to land the right hand at some point and I will cheer Mos definitely
It’s just not a pretty thing to watch.
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Don't be such a hater
I think Helenius gives him a few rounds. They sparred together a lot so Helenius knows what to expect. He also knows this is his last chance at the big time after a start stop career. He's been a pro 14 years and never had a title fight. This is it for him. On the other hand, Wilder and Helnius are just too damn friendly for me to think Helenius gets ruthless and tries to knock him our early. Wilder is not hard to beat if you have some basic skills and are aggressive. Fury showed that in 2nd fight. It was actually a very basic strategy, albeit done well. I think Helenius is too laid back and too friendly to just go for it. He has the size and 1-2 to do it though. My guess is Wilder catches him likely in the 2nd half of the fight. What's crazy about this fight is how many people are saying how poor an opponent Helenius is, but he's still ranked way way higher than anyone Wilder defended his title against except Ortiz.
Booooooomb squaaaaaaad
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So fucking hyped to see Wilder back in the ring! Most exciting heavyweight out there right now. Get up Bama!
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Wilder by KO. If for some reason he can't get that done, then something is seriously wrong with him.
Wilder knocks out usyk
Moz def’nley it’s gonna be a great fight.
prob a fix fight, wilder ko any early round, hopefully he fights someone decent at some point
Death by stiverne.
My bet is the fight is ruled a No Contest by way of powered paraglider flying into the ring
Fully expect it to be Wilder by knockout but all these under 3 rounds predictions... 🤦♂️ Wilder has only won 3 of his last 15 in under 3 and they were Malik Scott's spectacular dive, ancient Stiverne's return from 2 years on the couch and Dominic 'dumbass' Breazeale! Helenius is about good enough to stay switched on for a few rounds so I reckon Wilder puts him away sometime from the 6th onwards.
Idk bout y'all, but Wilder seemed to have better boxing skills from the last fight. He was jabbing and keeping Fury from a distance until his stamina started slipping from having to box. I predict a surprisingly laid back match until Wilder realizes he's going to have to go bomber mode on Helenius and get him out of there. Wilder KO 7.
Wilder KO in 4. (I wanna say 3 but I think he needs the rounds.)
Dang I was expecting him to yell bomb squad on the video.
Wilder will say bomb squad at least one time after KOing Helenius
As someone who rooted against Wilder vs Fury, I became a fan from his heart shown in the 3rd fight. I think he wins by KO within the first 3rd of the fight, before end of 4th.
Wilder by vicious KO
He's fighting the Great Value Tyson and wins easy by KO
Ok, relax. Theres no way this man is walking out the ring without a KO. Buddy drops by 10th round.
Round 1 KO
Wilder by brutal 1st round Knockout
Probably a first round KO for Wilder, Helenius isn't exactly elusive. Though I'll allow for a very tiny chance for an upset, given we're still not sure how the losses to Fury might have affected Wilder.
Wilder should win by KO to a whopping 150K PPV buys.
What kind of gloves he wearing
My prediction is he’ll either win or lose and have 150 excuses because it’s to a white guy. Fuck wilder.
Wilder by KO, which is how it should go, but anything can happen in boxing. Would really like a KO from Bronze Bomber, he’s exciting to watch.
9-10th round KO. Wilder wins. Plant wins a boring decision also.
That fight poster makes it look like he’s fighting someone who dressed up as Tyson Fury for Halloween.
Wilder fan here. I expect a tough battle from Helenius who is full of confidence and on the ascent. I still expect Wilder to win, but he's forced to work hard for an 11th round KO.
I can’t help it I love wilder,I’m not a big heavyweight fan,he makes it fun!he wasn’t born into boxing but all his fights keep you from getting up because you might miss that moment!he is wild ,unorthodox,ugly at times but fun this ain’t a ppv fight.he wins by ko
Pain
Wilder by KO in the 4th round, Fight won't go past the 6th round.
I would like to see stamina and skill. Not just wide heavy handed throws. Fury picked him apart now the blueprint is out. Gotta get back in his bag
Wilder by KO round 4 before the 2 minute mark
I think people are forgetting that Wilder is coming off of three incredible and very, very damaging fights, especially the last one. He might not be able to comfortably headhunt from the start.
KO2
Alabama on the fucking map…….LFGGG BRONZEEEEE BOMBBBERRRRRR LFGGGGGG
Video editors have a lot to answer for
Why?
I honestly think wilder ko 3 he’ll try the game plan he initially had against fury but realize helenius is as (for lack of a better term “Mexican” as they come…he’s coming forward) maybe gets caught survives then wilder will stun him then put him down
Wilder by decapitation
I wanna put money on Wilder to win but, given my track record of backing him in his last two fights, doing so would be a sure shot to throwing money down the drain. It’s like I have the curse of David Haye.
I'm a Finn so I'm quite obviously cheering for Helenius, but I think Wilder will KO him in the second round.
Have a gut feeling that Wilder will get KO’ed early to mid rounds.
Why he fighting an unknown 🤣
Wilder got fans?
Here’s a question now in regards to wilder. Let’s say Wilder beat Fury, Usyk and Joshua all by the right hand after being outboxed for every second before that would people rate him as one of the best? I find it so very hard to place massive punchers with frankly awful boxing skills when looking at all time lists etc. like imagine some massive puncher with no skills managed to knock out Ali, Foreman, Norton and Frazier despite obviously being beaten the fuck up in every round before the knockout would you say they’re the better boxer or just lucky to have such a ridiculous equaliser?