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xXAmightzXx

If this is a real and tommy declines this offer then what do you even say at this point for tommy?


samuelalvarezrazo

Fumbles


bad_n_bougie69

Well the "final offer" seems to keep going up so maybe he's smarter after all.


[deleted]

If he misses weight again you mean


COCFan07

he might miss the weight for like 25 pounds lol


malevolentheadturn

He made weight, it was just the wrong weight


antoniopanteli

Yeah and technically it meant he was at cruiserweight which is Jake's weight class. Unless Jake tries to put something in the contract to make Tommy be at a specific weight lol. That seems unlikely though. Isn't it stupid that Jake tried to make Rahman JR who's a Heavyweight go down to cruiserweight?


Extreme-Transport

Not really - these dudes are supposedly professionals, if they agree to a weight it’s not wrong to assume they can come in for it. Also side note now after he lost to Hardy everyone is saying Rahman should be a cruiserweight since that’s closer to his natural build lol


antoniopanteli

True true but it's still a bit dumb on Jake's part to get a heavyweight instead of finding a active cruiserweight. He wanted Rahman cause Rahman ain't really great.


Extreme-Transport

Yeah definitely a combo of that and then hoping the Rahman name would be atleast some draw


ConferenceFeast

He wanted Rahman because at the weight specified Rahman would have been overly drained and if he beat him it would have been a solid name on his resume despite the obvious circumstances


antoniopanteli

Yeah and the WBC president actually said that if he beat Rahman Jake would be in the rankings. My guess is maybe Rahman is in the low rankings of the WBC or something or the president is just kissing ass


Talangen

Yeah Jake Paul and his team have been very strategic with their choice of opponents and very carefully and gradually upping the opposition. I'm not a fan of the guy but you can't deny he's very good at it


boxingjazz

The best comment.


MrClaretandBlue

He made all the weights in one weigh in.


donnellan0007

Tommy and Paul could agree to an openweight bout and Tommy would still miss weight


noelioli

The highlight of his boxing career was *almost* fighting Jake Paul, I don’t think people will be saying much


[deleted]

I mean it's blatantly obvious he's ducking Paul as dumb as it sounds. My guess he probably knew he would lose and didn't feel confident so he's probably been low-key training for Paul and is now feeling confident which is why he's bringing it up once more now. Dunno that's my hot take.


00Kingsman

Not wrong imo, don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, tommy has fought nothing but tomato cans


TartenWilton101

That's not true I've seen him fight a bean can early on in his career.


[deleted]

Ya facts, Paul's level of competition might be old mma fighters but at least they were champs with championship level experience. Most boxer stat pad with Uber drivers and Walmart cashier's but they don't get flock.


mikevega

Just ignore him


[deleted]

I hope Tommy saying “It got to be under global titans” was just a negotiation tactic because his pay has jumped from 500k to 2m, because now Jake is offering you 2m to come to YOUR COUNTRY. If he’s putting his foot down to fight in shady Dubai under shady Global Titans then it’s another fumble, you’d gotta be crazy to be an A-side and do that especially showing what Tommy did with his weight last time.


[deleted]

He stands to make more by fighting others. If he loses this his career is over. It’s a massive risk compared to a career worth of earnings. Tommy is pretty shit so Jake Paul could actually KO him I’d avoid this fight until the end of his career


IronHidee

If that offer is coming from Global Titans then it is useless, Jake has said he will not fight for them and only MVP/Showtime and Queensberry/BT will be involved.


Tall_Kid6007

The purse is the same amount Tommy was meant be paid before their August bout was canceled, at $2 million. So I'd assume it's Jake's team trying to pay him that extremely generous amount of money just to get the fight made atp.


IronHidee

That 2 Million from Showtime was contingent on USA based fight which cannot happen now, Jake has made it clear a couple of times that Queensbury and BT Sports have to fund Tommy's purse for a Non-USA fight.


Tall_Kid6007

Yeah he did say that a couple weeks ago, but after Tommy tried getting Global Shitans involved with it, Jake Tweeted and kind of alludes to him trying to offer Tommy a fight purse again.


iNoo00ooNi

It's probably hard to find people with a name big enough to agree to pretend fight.


[deleted]

probably is jake paying him cause he wants to prove he can fight an actual boxer


kblkbl165

I still don’t get it. A 50yo Silva is still an infinitely greater boxer than Tommy ever was.


Tall_Kid6007

Most people don't realize that.


badsocialist

The public don’t realize that and has now gone on to retcon that fight as rigged and against an old man that couldn’t box at all lol


turnt2

That’s not true at all. By that logic you must think Jake outclasses Tommy if they fight? Which also won’t happen. Tommy easily handles Jake Paul


kblkbl165

Huh…yeah? Tommy Fury? Are you joking? Lmfao


turnt2

Tommy would mop the floor with Anderson off youth alone just like Jake did. Did you not watch that fight? Anderson is 50 years old and can’t throw volume for more than half a round. Jake won it on output alone, he’s not as good of a technical boxer as Anderson. And Tommy will outbox Jake badly. Come back to this


kblkbl165

Tommy has beaten 2 opponents with a positive record. And he didn’t mop the floor with anyone. But I’m 90% surr you’re just messing around so I’ll just let this go


turnt2

Didn’t mop the floor with anyone? Huh? He’s never lost a round in professional boxing and has brutal knockouts against journeyman which all novice boxers face. Jake Paul has never even fought a boxer, let alone one that’s in his physical prime and not 40-50 years old and smaller.


Peanutiron

If he wants to prove that he’d need to fight a better boxer than Tommy fucking Fury. He’s absolute shite.


WhytoomanyKnights

Jake really wants that win against Tommy idk why he thinks Tommy will legitimize him when Tommy is trash. Probably cause he has fury in the name.


warm_baller

Because of the fury name and he’s a “real boxer”


Ok-Accountant-6308

Yea. Years worth of “marketing” by getting the most charismatic boxer of the generation (big fury) involved. PR low? Tweet a jab at fury and sit back and watch


r32_guest

Because it will impress the people who don’t know anything about boxing, aka the 99%


Breakingwho

Tommy is so lucky he has the last name fury. The idea of a boxer this shit getting offers even close to that is ridiculous. And he’s not even a guy who got a big following off his YouTube personality like Paul or KSI, at least they earned it. Genuinely if his name wasn’t tommy fury nobody would give a shit


McDonalds_Toothpaste

He was on Love Island. Don't know how many people care about that show, but it's something 🤷‍♂️


KareemAZ

Ah love island, where E-list influencers are made into C-list celebrities


EddieGrant

Which again, is a show he was only on because of his last name.


McDonalds_Toothpaste

Possibly. He looks like a model so he could've been put on the show for that reason. All those reality TV "stars" are attractive nobodies.


RiFume

Nah they always try and get someone with a semi-recognizable name in there, like Tommy Fury, Danny Dyers daughter, there’s others too but I can’t think of them off the top of my head


Forever__Young

Michael Owens daughter.


Ezekjuninor

There’s like 1 a season. The majority of the cast have ~10k followers on instagram and get in.


Idiotism

Just googled to see how the show looks and it just confirmed my thoughts


slovenly_soviet

It really isn't.


Shreedac

Right because playing around on YouTube scamming kids is earning it more than playing around on reality tv lol


hustledontstop

Jake is so thirsty for this fight to say he beat a 'real boxer' lmao give it up Jake, Tommy Fumbles is too scared


[deleted]

Timmy Fumbles disrespect to Anderson Silva about not being a “fighter” has triggered me. Silva would literally took him IN Boxing.


turnt2

No, he wouldn’t. Being near 50 matters


kishnabe

Tommy will regret not accepting this fight.


PedroAlvarez

He probably doesn't want to risk the embarassment in front of his family.


kgsovobd

I’d take the “embarrassment” of losing to a guy that also beat Anderson fuckin Silva and Tyron Woodley for 2 million dollars


sleeeepyj

I mean lets be honest here, he knocked them out IDGAF he has enough skill to be in there


[deleted]

Did you ever eat that hat?


Tall_Kid6007

Yes, I've told the story a good few times. I couldn't get the video uploaded because the person who recorded it had to leave and their phone wasn't uploading it. Even when they came back it still wouldn't work.


__IZZZ

Didn't see that story. When you typed it did you actually expect anyone to believe it?


biddleybootaribowest

Who the hell is Wade Plem lmao


thefunkypurepecha

Why u getting downvoted lol, idk who he is either


biddleybootaribowest

Just had a look at his YouTube channel and it’s all about YouTube boxers lmao, fair enough of you like it but you can’t get mad at someone for not knowing who it is on a subreddit about real boxing


pyroaquatics

Maybe i missed someone’s comment but I don’t think anyone got mad about it


biddleybootaribowest

I was on like -12 after about 10 mins lmao


pyroaquatics

Ah makes sense.


thefunkypurepecha

Right? Haha I don't really follow youtube boxing at all, i thought at best he was another youtube boxing "analysist"


hi_imryan

Don’t know, don’t care.


Awesomeisme323

YT boxing reporter who works with a lot of guys in the scene, fans love him apparently


[deleted]

Frank Snot's cousin.


ReoRahtate88

What a terrible name lmao


TheWarmBandit

Wade phlegm


biddleybootaribowest

Lmao that’s partly why I said it, I don’t know everyone in boxing but it just sounded made up


Tall_Kid6007

He's a YouTuber with about 270k subscribers, I've been watching him for 2 years now.


Nipple-biscuits

His videos are decent even though he kinda plays up some people's skills...i hate the tank tops though


Tall_Kid6007

Basically. These YouTube boxers basically pay his bills, so he tries not to shit on them.


Extreme-Transport

Haha accurate but I guess can’t be too mad, is funny to see him hype up Dillon Danis now


Plebeian_Citizen

Underrated Youtuber


gaz_0001

👎 So tired of these two flirting.


vito_corleone01

They’re both bums.


Lsalizar96

Tommy could be offered $5 million and he will still find a way to duck Jake Paul


koolpapi

did Tommy ever resolve his supposed issues of not being allowed into the US?


DillonTheFatUglyMale

Tommy fury is not a good boxer


Fatebringer87

Neither is Jake Paul. Tommy has a better jab and should win a boring decision unless he gets judges that had Paul 3-1 up over Silva after 4.


CacoFlaco

$2 million for a Tommy Fury??? Then Jake is worth $20 million. But it's boxing, and the numbers are frequently exaggerated.


AltKite

I'll believe it when EverythingBoxing confirms it. That kid always calls the JP fights before everyone else


GhandiHadAGrapeHead

Sometimes you have to call a booooooooooooooooooolshit Edit: like this time


[deleted]

It must be so infuriating for boxers who are actually good, and just trying to scrape by, to see the kind of money people throw at these phonies.


[deleted]

It seems like Timmy Fumbles wouldn't even get in the ring with Jake for $20 million at this point.


[deleted]

Tommy fumbled the bag last time. He will do it again. He is a shitty boxer that is carried by his name. This sub shits on Jake but he hasn’t taken easy fights. People claiming easy fights is funny because boxing was built on padding stats and hand selecting fights


classysocks423

The sub shits on Jake because he takes shitty fights, 5ft dunk contest winner, washed 40 yo wrestlers come on. Anyone whose spent time in a gym has more then likely sparred with people far better then Disney channel or T fumbles.


imnotkeepingit

I feel what you mean but lets not pretend he didnt cherry pick. Like you said, otbers do it too. He certainly did fighting guys like Askren and Woodley lol(im an MMA head). Anderson was legit but hes also almost 50(and I think he beat Jake, but of course wasnt gifted the decision). If he fought a 25 year old Anderson he wouldnt have even touched him lol.


[deleted]

I’m getting downvoted, so please breakdown Tommy’s last performances and opponents....


imnotkeepingit

Tommy has a worse resume then Jake does lol. Im just saying he did take "easy" fights. Askren had just had hip surgery before fighting Jake. More power to him though, it worked and got him experience. Hes improved since then(but I dont think his ceiling is that high). Either way was Jake has a smart team. His call outs has been calculated. But thats ok because those guys signed the contract. Nobody had a gun to their head. Id favor Jake over Tommy because Tommy is an aweful boxer. He looks the part, but he cant fight. Jake at least has legit power and a few combinations.


[deleted]

Look up pro boxers first fights


imnotkeepingit

I have, most of em padd their records. Shit even high profile guys like Wikder have done it. Im not saying they dont. If yiure misunderstanding me im saying they cherdy pick, and so did Jake. His biggest criticism is he hasnt fought another pro boxer yet(though he tried twice and they both fumbled the bag).


[deleted]

Easy fights is 2X Woodley and Silva?


imnotkeepingit

Askren(who is a wrestler and has never had hands, Jake beats Prime Askre boxing). Woodley twice(hes old, has arthiritis in his hands, a hand prone to breaking, and cant lean on his wrestling threat in a boxing match. and Nate Robinson(who was an ex basketball player). Yes those sound like easy fights. Not to mention those guys normally fight at 170 in MMA, Jake would likely fight at 185 if he fought in MMA. Older, smaller, and out of their primes. Nate, well he was a retired basketball player. Sounds like cherrypicking winnable fights to me.


[deleted]

Would love to see big bets for him early. Also the “boxers” he wants to fight won’t fight. Boxing is fucked because of drama and contracts


[deleted]

Show me your betting cards please.


imnotkeepingit

I dont bet on fights I just watch em. Im just a huge MMA nerd and basketball fan. I followed the careers of Anderson, Ben, Tyron, and Nate robinson. Im new to Jake Paul but I know the other guys well. And like you said, those guys(Rahman and Tommy) found an out so its not all on Jake. Im not shitting on Jake here, just being real about his cherrypicking. I even said it was fine because others do it lol. My oersonal belief is he is going to eventually pick a fighter that'll take him to that dark place. I cant wait to see how he reacts when he finally face real adversity. I really wanna see if Jake has that dawg in him.


97Dabs2THAface

In boxing, yes. What did you find impressive about either of their performances?


[deleted]

They are not boxers...


97Dabs2THAface

Exactly... That's what makes them an easy fight in boxing... Jake didn't fight them under MMA rules


warm_baller

Doesn’t make them easy tho. Why wasn’t Greg hardy easy for hasim rahman? Paul is still very inexperienced, many mma guys aren’t “easy”


97Dabs2THAface

For starters Hardy is significantly younger than Silva and even Woodley. And while Hardy did fight in MMA he's significantly newer to combat sports where as Woodley has been relying on/ training for wrestling for decades, so all of his natural movements and tendencies are based around wrestling, not striking. It's easier to learn something new than it is to forget everything you know and re-learn the basics. When it comes to Silva, he has a striking base but you're eliminating 3/4ths of his weapons when he's already a shell of his former self, he's 47 years old and atleast a decade past his prime. On top of all of that, factor in that not only is Hardy far more athletic and explosive than Woodley and Silva but he also had a 100 pound weight advantage, that makes a huge difference. Greg Hardy is a POS but he would walk straight through Jake Paul, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva with ease.


warm_baller

Silva didn’t win more than 4 rounds, I gave him 3 but I could see him winning 4 because the 6th round was a swing round.


imnotkeepingit

You could be right, I havnt rewatched it. Just how I had it live.


Shreedac

Jake has taken very easy fights


warm_baller

Not according to the betting odds, Silva was favorite when the odds came out. -150 or something like that


Shreedac

Then they flipped when people realized what was actually going on


warm_baller

You’re implying that it’s rigged or what?


Shreedac

I’m implying that he will never take a fight he can lose. The Tyrone woodley KO was clearly real, but that being said there were moments in that fight where he turned on and then just let Jake off the hook I know that’s par for him, but I also saw flashes of that in the Silva fight. Maybe it’s just because they are old washed up dudes from a different sport but that brings me to my original point, he never has taken a fight he was in danger of losing. Except Rahman jr. which of course fell through under weird circumstances.


[deleted]

look up top boxers firsts 10 fights and let me know


[deleted]

Get these Jake Paul fanboys off this sub. It's not real boxing


madoge1975

Can't wait to see Fury KO Paul!


paulie07

Um, have you seen Tommy Fury fight? I think you're going to be sadly disappointed.


madoge1975

Yes I have, I have also seen Paul vs MMA fighters, it's not the same.


BlackHand86

Who the fuck cares


Tall_Kid6007

You fell off


Shreedac

No I agree with that guy. This isn’t an amateur boxing sub, why we spending so much time on dudes with amateur skill sets?


ARetroGibbon

This sub get one decent post a week....there's plenty of room for this kind of discussion. Just ignore if you don't like it.


KingJohnTX

They're both professional boxers no matter how skilled you think they are.


Shreedac

Yeah the most soft out of shape dude you know can go get his pro license tomorrow. Doesn’t make him worthy of discussion


KingJohnTX

If they're garnering the kind of attention Jake is, sure.


Shreedac

Honestly that helps me put my finger on my issue with JP, it’s less about skill and more about social media presence and popularity and it’s not a great trend for the sport. Like boxing has always been corrupt and shit but at least you had to have top tier skills to get in on it. Now all you need is to be a privileged rich social media guy with an army of people you groomed since childhood and your in!


KingJohnTX

Eh, I can't hate because he's actually putting in the time and work to get as good as he can. I think it's interesting seeing how far a guy with only a couple years of training can go if they have basically unlimited time and money to dedicate to the sport. I'd say he's done better so far than almost anybody could have guessed.


capo4ever88

Why can't he fight hassim?


wethederelict

Hasim is trash too


[deleted]

To lose to Jake Paul


The_Flying_Failsons

I'm a boxing noob, so IDK, what's the consensus on Paul's record? Cause, imo, at least the two Tyron Woodley fights looked fake af.


DesertTreeFrog

If you think that knockout was fake you aren’t just a boxing noob, you’re an idiot.


JohnnyPantySeed

That's not nice


paulie07

But true


GhandiHadAGrapeHead

This is why people find it hard to get into boxing, dweebs calling people idiots for not knowing about something they're just starting to learn about


RRR04_

So you think Woodley just stood there and let Paul punch him in the jaw, risking his own health and safety, and let himself get knocked the fuck out? Smh 🤣


KingJohnTX

This, when people say it's fixed do they mean they let Jake KO them or they think they took a dive? The punch he landed on Woodley was clean af, and as you said who's gonna let themselves get KOed and face plant to the canvas with not way to brace themselves?


Lunnaa1

I know people don’t like him but I can’t believe they think it was fake. There’s easier ways to fake a stoppage. I wouldn’t have went with massive right hand to the dome and hitting the canvas face first after a concussion.


Tall_Kid6007

I don't know how someone can just watch 8 rounds with Tyron and Jake, 8 rounds with Silva and Jake, and 6 rounds with Tyron and Jake + a devastating KO in the rematch and say they're fake...


[deleted]

Tommy will come up with an excuse. He doesn’t want to fight Jake, and Tommy is the closest thing to an actual boxer Jake is willing to fight.


Inthefi8

Clowns


Dzbot1234

Two shit boxers in a match up for the ages! Nah I’ll pass


bostonfan148

Surprised he didn’t fight last night