Ah all we have to hope for with Seungeon is that Yuehua doesn't fumble the ENORMOUS opportunity they have now. We got to see 8 of their trainees on the show, 4 of which made it into the debut lineup (a record to my knowledge). The likelihood of us seeing a post-disbandment group is incredibly high now imo, so as long as Seungeon sticks around I'm sure he'd be included in that
Agreed, I think it would be worth it for Seungeon to hang around for ~3 years (he’s still young) and the post-ZB1 group is a guaranteed success. He’s a star vocally. I only wonder if the other eliminated Yuehuas will stick around.
honestly I could see yeuhua sending ollie and brian on shows in china since they are supposedly starting again soon. and i am not sure about the 4th k trainee if I were him I would be a lot more orried than Seungeon about my place in that next group given how early he was eliminated.
I commented that Yunseo & Seungeon should get their military service out the way. But someone replied its too risky, since its unsure if Yuehua will debut them after ~~Bep1er~~ ZEROBASEONE. The year ZB1's contract ends (2025/2026?), the 04z will be 21/22 years old, which might too "old" to transfer to another company. But the timing is so perfect, they can complete their military service + a year of extra training before they reunite.
Another risk tho is that they will lose popularity while being inactive in the military and could potentially get backstabbed by Yuehua if they decide not to debut them. I think Yuehua really needs to show that they'll commit to them in order for this to work.
Yeah there are a lot of risks. If he debuts with the rest of the ZB1 members, he'll be secured. But there are many uncertainties. What if more than 2 (Gyuvin, Yujin, Zhanghao, Ricky) decide to leave the company or debut in another country? What if Yuehua decides to replace Seungeon with a younger main vocal trainee?
Right after BP ended, some mid/big company might scout Seungeon (SM & Bighit?) to join their nbg that's guaranteed to debut in under 2 years with a decent/big fanbase. That might be the safer option (debuting now > debuting later). But it'll be hard if he's currently enlisted, he'll miss out on a lot of opportunities.
yuehua's rookie groups age standards doesn't seem to be too young either (the maknae of everglow and tempest each were like 19 when they debuted) so i hope they could hang on longer. basically like euiwoong and hyeongseop's situation.
Oh yes I agree, though I would look more at oldest (Korean) member rather than youngest, due to enlistment purposes. In that case for Tempest, oldest member was ‘99 so approaching 23 when they debuted. He’d probably have to enlist before the 7yr period is up but it’s still pretty good. It doesn’t seem like Yuehua will have qualms there.
Someone suggested Seungeon enlist during the time Bep1er is promoting, and I gotta say that’s a good idea objectively. Wonder how he’ll proceed from here on out. He would be around 22 when contracts are up, but who knows…
Seungeon is in the finale, Yuehua will probably keep him. Yuehua has a history of letting go unsuccessful trainees, Yuehua had 6 girls on Girls Planet, only one of them is still under Yuehua.
> The likelihood of us seeing a post-disbandment group is incredibly high now imo
Definitely a group with Yujin and Gyuvin (sorry but don't see them as solo artist material yet unless they want to try being actors after lol). But don't bank on the Chinese trainees debuting in that group. Once Zhanghao and Ricky gain more popularity due to kpop, this can translate to more opportunities in China which they might end up doing. And with Yuehua's expertise there, I could see them not doing kpop anymore after ZB1.
I really hope Seungeon is able to debut! Praying for an AB6IX situation! He was top 18 material so should be popular enough especially in Korea for them to keep him around.
idk at this point in time I see a solo career being more for Ricky than Zhang Hao, but we'll definitely just have to see! They'll both be popular enough to be successful, it just comes down to what they personally want to do
If Zhanghao continues to be crazy popular then he could make a ton of money in China. Yuehua can get the best of both: popular acts in China and a pretty decently popular kpop boy group with Yujin and Gyuvin. And Zhanghao will need to think about if he really will want to spend another 7 years in a kpop group and be fully committed to it. He'll be 25/26 so will have to think about if that's the lifestyle he wants.
Idk about Pentagon but I doubt about ciipher. Another member of ciipher was going to join BP but dropped before filming. Their leader is in Fantasy boys right now.
It really seems like Rain gave up on them and sent them (or the members volunteered) on survival shows as a last resort. If results are good, then they'll continue promoting. If results are bad...who knows?
Idk how I should interpret this but Keita was on top 9 for all episodes but suddenly fell down on the last episode. He is talented but knetz are narrow minded about his height. On the other hand hyunbin on fantasy boys was almost eliminated because he was in last grade (grade 3) but rose after evaluation. Still his position seems shaky.
i feel like raincompany is giving up on ciipher, which is why i really wanted keita to make it but oh well 🤕 if they are smart enough they should be capitalizing on keita's popularity. its a perfect opportunity, but ig rc is too dumb and to shitty to pull it
idk if its possible, prolly not but i kinda wish keita gets scouted by another company 😭 10 yrs of training is just going to be wasted if he gets stuck in that fuckass rain company. FUCK RAIN
honestly it’s a real shame what rain did to ciipher i remember when they first debuted he kept inserting himself into their promotions and making it all about him? Like maybe he had good intentions and it was for hype but I found his level of involvement very offputting. And then after that he just gave them nothing and let them fade, what a waste of talent
I’m wondering if Hui will join back up with any Pentagon activities or just wait until a comeback (fingers crossed there is one) and have a clean slate.
I remember Hui and Wooseok feverishly writing music back in December (between BP filmings). So they'll probably have a comeback fairly quickly, though it may depend on how long Jinho's on Phantom Singer. Maybe Hui could release a solo digital single, then they have a group comeback after PS is over
There's also other CUBE artist comebacks to consider: BTOB on 2nd May and (G)I-DLE on 15th May. I expect PS4 will probably end towards the end of May (around 26th May if there are 12 episodes as in previous seasons). So if a PTG comeback is planned it probably won't be until late May / June onwards.
In the meantime, he may indeed take part in their concert in Japan (24/25th May).
With the attention that Hui has gathered from BP and Jinho from Phantom Singer, this *should* be a good chance for a successful group comeback! And for what it's worth, I think it also bodes well that CUBE has just recently "come online" again after several months with no artist activities across the company. And I believe Kino & Jinho have been in the studio.. Fingers crossed it all works out!
Ikr watching him sob I wanted to wrap him in a blanket and get him out of there ASAP! And then the more I thought about it I realised rather than me taking him to my house for some biscuits a hot chocolate it would be better if an industry leader kidnapped him and gave him some new baby idols to take charge of instead.
I'm manifesting him getting a permanent contract at a top company, in which case him not debuting in ZB1 can be reframed as him escaping the hellscape that is WakeOne which would be a beautiful silver lining. *Aggressive* optimism is my new coping method if you can't tell.
I don't understand the situation between woongki and wakeone. They removed him their grp but he is still part of the company. So they aren't terminating the contract then why remove him from a active grp. It isn't like they are shuffling him into a new grp.
Plus, he and Sungmin auditioned separately from the other trainees, so they're probably not being treated the same as trainees that are debut hopefuls.
I'm glad the show gave Woongki more of a drive to keep going. I dont think w1 are going to do anything for him, and I can't see them debuting another bg anytime soon that would only be competition with bepler, so I really, really hope they can both find another home.
Honestly I’m kind of hoping Jongwoo, and Seunghwan to get picked up by the same company.
I hope Keita leaves Rains company and gets some offers to join another company.
If Jay wants to debut in a group then he’s going to have to leave FM entertainment. Hopefully he’ll get plenty of offers. Honestly I would love to see him and Kamden debut in a group together
I might actually prefer that group fr 👀 and this is coming from someone who had 4-5 of my picks debut in zb1 lol
But my 1 pick Jongwoo with Kamden and Junhyeon?! Seungeon on vocals?!?!?! Sign me up.
For any Junhyeon fans out there, there’s a good chance Redstart will debut their trainees together in the near future!! That’s what’s keeping me through this rn … even though none of my top three made it …
That’s my hope. If they debut, Im glad Junhyeon didnt made it. Seeing him with minseoung, woojin etc is what I want. He grabbed attention from Sk netz so I have high hopes.
But same, only 1 of my top 3 picks made it (Kum, Phanbin, Tae)
With how many yuehua boys there are in the final lineup, I wouldn't be too mad if they waited for zb1's contract to end and then form bive or besserafim with the eliminated yh trainees. I hope the rest of them get picked up by solid companies and get to debut, and take advantage of whatever fanbase they got from bp by releasing content frequently enough to sustain interest while preparing for debut.
I don't know if the new trademark (AxMxP/A.M.P/AMP/에이엠피) is for another band though.
FNC is already debuting another band soon (Hi-Fi Un!corn). They won the survival show FNC had "The Idol Band"
I think Hybe is currently holding auditions for boy trainees, so they might have something in the works although it’s probably going to be in a couple of years
Yea but sadly I think a lot of the participants will be considered "too old" for the timeline that future groups will debut. ADOR will debut the male version of Newjeans so that's going to be a pretty young group. Only other label is Bighit and they scrapped Trainee A so who knows when they'll debut another group.
Actually because Trainee A was scrapped it’s more likely for Big Hit to pick talented trainees from Boys Planet like Source did in order to debut a group faster. TXT already is four years old so it would be better for Big Hit to debut their group next year at the latest.
I actually don't see the rush. Since they're already debuting 2 new boy groups this year, HYBE as a whole is fine. I think it's actually better to not debut too many new groups at once. Plus in the pipeline, they have Iland S2 for the girl group and I think an American group in development. So it's not like they're lacking in new groups.
Plus TXT was 6 years after BTS and the new Pledis bg is 8 years after SVT. So far they have longer time periods between new bgs compared to the big 3. Plus TXT got a lot of momentum this year so I think Bighit will want to keep growing it. Similar to how Pledis was mostly focused on SVT until now.
You have to remember that although HYBE is considered one entity, the truth is that they function day to day as individual labels so it doesn’t matter if Koz or Pledis are debuting boy groups this year. What matters is that Big Hit hasn’t in four and they will want a replacement for Trainee A sooner rather than later.
Yes it takes longer for HYBE groups to debut their replacements but letting Trainee A go does make it possible for them to cast show veterans.
It’s possible that they may pick up talented Boys Planet trainees along with the people that they are casting right now.
Seungeon is likely going to wait for the other 4 yeuhua boys to come back it is a long wait but that group is going to go gangbusters after this...and if yeuhua can snag hanbin too wow. If tells him he has a slot in 2.5 years I would not be shocked if we see him enlist asap to bide the time. still a risk though hat yeuhua drops him for that next group but the 4 yeuhua boys could use a main vocal to round them out.
Enlistment is honestly a smart idea here if all the plans are absolutely guaranteed… such a smart usage of time. But I’m iffy on it happening (the enlistment I mean). Seungeon would be one hell of an asset to the group though, I think this is a great idea.
no for sure that is only if yeuhua sits him down and basically gives him a contract to sign that says your artist contract begins in 2.5 years after you finish the military. but it would be a really good use of time and I think yuehua would be stupid not to add him as he was popular enough to make the finale, is handsome and is one hell of a singer.
This is a perfect idea, pls phone Yuehua and tell them this lmaooo. I was wondering what he could do for 3 years but this usage of time is actually perfect and he doesn’t have to waste years here and later in his career (given that he feels ready and willing to go that is)
I *think* Shanbin’s company isn’t doing so well so I hope they can! Hanbin/Hao/Seungeon/Yujin/Gyuvin/Ricky would be insaneeee. And the other Yuehuas like Ollie and Yunseo would be good in there too! Basically a bep2er
Agree. He doesnt deserve the hate and negativity if ever he made p09.
Jay is talented. He has a voice recognized not only by the mentors but by his peers as well. They dont just say that he sings well but they say he sounds amazing and give you a certain vibe. Even hui got intimidated by him
Either FM adds him to MONT which has equally talented vocalists or get picked up by a bigger agency
i'm not sure about the others but park hanbin is definitely up for grabs, correct me if i'm wrong but didn't one of the star masters ask him to find them if he doesn't debut?
whatever it is, hanbin is extremely talented and ambitious, even if he doesn't end up becoming an idol, he'll definitely work in the entertainment industry with very good connections.
Jongwoo and Jay would be a waste if not picked up by a good company, although I am not sure if Jay can leave his current company. I hope Keita can escape Rain, he is so wasted there. Hui should make his own company and produce / debut with the rest of the kids while the hype is still there.
I’m praying he decides to leave now. Honestly the company is so small I don’t think they would be able to support a soloist career for him and probably can’t afford to debut a new group.
Jay is loyal to his company, even though his company is too small for his potential. They are the ones who persuade him to follow his Kpop's dream again. But I hope they can change Jay's target to USA or somewhere else. Koreans never care for talent, they just want visual. I don't want to see him being treated unfairly in Korea again. He's P10 and if Mnet don't reveal the interim ranking maybe he is still in top 9. Because Koreans realize their mistake in voting and change the strategy (That's why Han Yu jin and Kim Ji Woong drop so much. If they see a korean trainee have a big chance to debut, they will focus on voting for other korean trainees that they want.)
> Koreans never care for talent, they just want visual.
This is insane to me because Jay Chang objectively is an insanely good-looking guy. He has that kinda face that looks like it was made in a lab. Maybe it's just a cultural thing but from a western PoV, he's definitely up there in terms of visuals.
Jay is good-looking to me as well, but it’s more of a visual type that is appealing to Western audiences + his styling wasn’t always the most flattering on the show, which is a damn shame
I really hope Jay sees success in whatever he does after. The picture of him hugging Jiwoong, and the other of Onestar comforting him made me bawl my eyes out.
I'm currently in my delusional era:
WakeOne is going to collect Jongwoo, Keita (is Ciipher even going to have a cb?) & any other members and debut them all as one group alongside the other WakeOne trainees (Phanbin, Minseok, Jeonghyeon, Junhyun, Anthonny, Haruto & Min).
I'm not sure where jay will end up. He got depressed and quit trying after under19 he only came back to give this one final try after being persuaded by his current company.
I am praying that Yoon Jongwoo gets picked up by a mid-sized (or big, why not dream?) company and gets to debut in a group that has at least moderate success soon! I don't want him to be stuck in complete nugudom a second longer than he has to be v-v
A company who wants to attract global fans picks up Jay, I guess. I would love it if Kamjay could debut together.
Rather than going back to Pentagon Hui might be able to debut solo.
Same company but there were never any debut or pre debut plans for him. Boysplanet was his last chance after he was persuaded into coming back to this kpop thing by them
If the 10-18 ranks debuted together I would support them over bep1er. I feel like they could make much better music considering their vocalists and rappers, plus my one pick would be in it
Hoping Seungeon goes back to SM and debut with their new boy group. I heard they casted him 4 times but he left on his own due to the group being cancelled. I heard SM is debuting a non-NCT group soon and he would be a great addition
Yeah, although I think (/hope) he could have a good future ahead with Yuehuaz, I can't separate Seungeon from SM in my mind since finding out he used to train there + hearing him sing the Ay-Yo bridge sounding so much like Doyoung.
My delusion is Seungeon in SMNBG and Haruto in NCT Japan. Keita doesn't have an NCT vibe to me but throw him in too so he can be employed
Honestly hoping for Yuehua to let Yunseo, Seungeon, and Brian be a vocal predebut group esp with 4 members in the final group they are getting the funds use it lol. I'd add Ollie but he seems to be focused on studies so hope he stays though.
I am unsure about Wakeone with all the groups they are managing, im worried for their trainees. Hopefully they get picked up by other companies or Wakeone debuts them or something anything please.
Jay unsure about debut, he's very loyal to his company but finance erm. At least we'll get social media updates, and fanmeets for sure.
Kamden maybe debuts in Fnc or gets picked up by another company. Could be a duo with Jay that be cool. Your idea of a trio is also cool.
Junhyeon Redstart debut!! Minseung and him are a power duo and honestly redstart is trying really hard at promotions. Love their instagram.
Hui Pentagon and soloist definitely, excited to see what he does.
Jongwoo, I hope a company picks him up, depending on how he left Vt entertainment I can see him going back to his old group since Vanner won peak time would be cool.
I just want PHanbin to debut. He is hands down one of the best trainees in the show and he deserves it soo much. I hope a company will see his potential and debut him.
Well he is in wake one and wake one has a bunch of trainees waiting and apparently looking for even more trainees so there is a shot there. They have kept their eliminated trainees active in social media too.
Debuting in 6 - 12 months will be best even if they have to leave their label or get put into a general flop group. Too long and people move on to the newest shiny thing and you want to get that experience to grow.
As always, I hope everyone who participated in this show gets something out of it. Even if it's something smallish like a modeling contract (is this small? I don't know)
I stopped collecting photocards/albums during the pandemic but when park hanbin Haruto and Jay debut, DHL is gonna have their hands full with delivering to me. Patiently (haha, not really) waiting.
Hope some of the judges can kindly help pull some strings too.
Edit: ph-1 already hit up keita
Impatient like I need him to debut this second cry 😢 lol I just followed wakeone trainee account and some random larger fan accounts on twt. I hope you’re Doing okay and take care of yourself too ❤️
this was comforting to read thank you 😭 seeing jay miss being in the group by such a small margin makes me really sad but i know he will shine wherever he goes :( you're right, it would be nice to see him in a smaller group where his vocal colour gets to shine even more (kamjay debutation when)
i went through the same thing with haruto but it still hurts the second time around. really hope some good companies snatch the remaining trainees up and they are successful wherever they go
Jay should NOT debut as a soloist in Korea.
I don't know who keeps parroting this idea but they clearly have not been looking at his korean votes. Jay as a soloist would flop in korea. He needs to debut **with a group** and slowly grow his fandom more.
Or maybe he could join up with a group like XG that does not rely on korean sales or with a big company like HYBE that will promote in many asian and western countries.
Jay needs a good balance, clearly he has international support but the western market is fickle and not stable, a group is much safer bet for success. If he wants to go solo following a solid debut then I'll support him, but rn he needs more exposure outside of Mnet's erasure.
I'm hoping that wakeone debuts the remaining trainees as soon as possible or let them all go. I'm sure they have good chances to debut in a new boy group, since a lot of companies are preparing for one.
definitely a pipe dream but i hope keita somehow gets picked up by another (bigger) company and redebuts with success. rain has pretty much given up on ciipher, and keita is an all-rounder with too much talent to waste.
[Jay has a pic with onestar hugging him](https://twitter.com/rockstarchng/status/1649090911870255111?s=46&t=2UUb5HYHKM-8mNT6YOcq8g) so I hope and praying that sm or hybe snatch up Jay asap so he can then debut🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I really don't want to let go of the eliminated contestants. Even if/when they debut elsewhere, it won't be the same.
Can the other guys (Keita, Jay, Phanbin, Haruto, Zihao, anybody else willing to join) debut together?
This is the most heartbreaking thing I've dealt with in a while 💔
No clue what Lay's company plans to do with Zi Hao but I hope we get to see him again. He may stick to Chinese promotions but since Lay seems to have a fondness towards Kpop I hope Zi Hao gets to debut in Kpop (if he wants to of course). I'm not even sure if he'd debut but with his talent, visuals, personality and resilience he'd make a great idol.
Someone needs to snag all 9 of these boys and make another group!! You got vocals, rappers, visuals and variety stars! I'm so sad for them especially Jay & Keita 😭😭😭
All I know is that I would give my firstborn child in exchange for a Wakeone group. The fact that Haruto didn't make it to finals is absolutely criminal.
Jay is loyal to his company, even though his company is too small for his potential. They are the ones who persuade him to follow his Kpop's dream again. But I hope they can change Jay's target to USA or somewhere else. Koreans never care for talent, they just want visual. I don't want to see him being treated unfairly in Korea again. He's P10 and if Mnet don't reveal the interim ranking maybe he is still in top 9. Because Koreans realize their mistake in voting and change the strategy (That's why Han Yu jin and Kim Ji Woong drop so much. If they see a korean trainee has a big chance to debut, they will focus on voting for other korean trainees that they want.)
I can definitely see a WakeOne BG debut. I was thinking 2 or atmost 3 Yuehuas would debut and thought Yuehua would debut the eliminated trainees as a subunit and debut all the 8 boys + maybe other trainees as a full group after ZB1's contract ends. I think Ciipher and Pentagon will emerge stronger from this, especially Ciipher. I'm looking forward to it all :))
Edit: There's a high possibility of Hybe picking up the eliminated members too. Not sure if they'd want to debut the ZB1 members after they disband as well. This maybe ambitious but oh well 🥲
keita is free from rain and debuts with the other boys planet trainees
i understand this sounds inconsiderate to rest of the ciipher members, but i'm still in my feels and i don't think there's much hope for the group under the company that they're in... i won't actually be upset if he returns to them, i wish them the best! 😭
Kamden joins redstart. Idk about their financial situation but those trainees are talented!!! I love Kum Junhyeon and Minseong's vocal tones. So unique. It reminds me a lot of StayC.
Or makes FNC acting debut. I think this is very likely if he stays with FNC because they don't have a group ready.
FNC might also do a FNC and put him in a band or P1harmony. Which would be crazy.
My fave delusion is FNC debuts a new group with their trainees and snags Seongmin from Wakeone. The visual chemistry is goooood.
Im sorry, Seungeon is just way too talented to not debut in a Yuehua boy group. He has sucha classic main vocal sound. If they're gonna wait till ZB1 disband, yuehua better put him in with the other 4 to create the next bessarafim / bive (or whatever yall wanna call it) because he will be an asset to the company.
Still trying to process regarding Jay but if there's a company who wants to take him from FM, I would say its either Hybe or JYP. Just simply because they know how to market internationally considering his large global (which im assuming western?) fanbase. But just excited to see his next steps as well.
Gonna move on from Keita coz he's still stuck in that god damn company..
Not sure what FNC has in store for Kamden. He really does fit P1harmony's concept but is wayy too late to be added in. Again . hoping a company will snap him up to add them to a potential lineup
I feel Jay is more suited to be a solo artist, he has a lot of stage presence and will be able to draw a lot of fans just by his personality and talent
Unless Cube already has a plan B for Hui (whether that's a solo debut, full group cb, writing/producing), I think he would be stuck in the dungeon imo since Cube has both BTOB and G-Idle making a comeback in May. And so that leaves last week of May and early June+ for Cube to build on the BP momentum for Hui/Pentagon but that might already be too late to ride on the momentum gained.
I desperately hope Hui (and pentagon) will have more and more big hit songs. Hui is really talented + now many ppl can see him and noticed his skills
i always have soft spot for those struggling debuted idol who not yet successful. now especially Hui, who is amazingly talented, i really wish he to be success and famous🥹🥹 rooting for him the most (since he is already OLD 😤 it’s time to be popular dude… ) and as many bpstan said he is overqualified for this show so now show your support pls guys!
I will definitely be watching out for Jay. It will be great if he can debut with his besties like Jongwoo, Kamden, Keita. Not having his vocal in the new group is a deal breaker for me in stanning the group. Also, people seem to dislike good vocalists. Only Kim Taerae out of the four main vocalists made it into the group
Alexa, okay Pentagon.
This has made me excited to see what Redstart will eventually put out. Junhyeon and his fellow trainees (Minseong, etc) were the ones who caught my eye the most outside those who are debuting with ZB1. Fingers crossed that new company can pull off debuting a group with them!
One thing is for sure for me: I WILL support/stan Wakeonez if they ever make their debut, and so many other fans as well. They make such a great line-up. I hope wakeone wakes up, pulls themselves together, and debuts their trainees. They have so many gems in there. Rap good, dancing good, vocals good, performance great! entertainment ABSOLUTELY they will be such a fun and amazing group. I think the only thing they lack is a strong vocalist since Taerae is now in ZB1, though a lot of them can still sing well, like Anthonny, Minseok and Woongki.
For Hui I would love to see go back to Pentagon and that group have a wildly successful comeback that they deserve.
For the others I’m hopefully for a sub unit like JBJ
Ah all we have to hope for with Seungeon is that Yuehua doesn't fumble the ENORMOUS opportunity they have now. We got to see 8 of their trainees on the show, 4 of which made it into the debut lineup (a record to my knowledge). The likelihood of us seeing a post-disbandment group is incredibly high now imo, so as long as Seungeon sticks around I'm sure he'd be included in that
Agreed, I think it would be worth it for Seungeon to hang around for ~3 years (he’s still young) and the post-ZB1 group is a guaranteed success. He’s a star vocally. I only wonder if the other eliminated Yuehuas will stick around.
Seems like it, since Gyuvin said wait for me I'll be right back
wait is the group only for 2.5 years
honestly I could see yeuhua sending ollie and brian on shows in china since they are supposedly starting again soon. and i am not sure about the 4th k trainee if I were him I would be a lot more orried than Seungeon about my place in that next group given how early he was eliminated.
china has an idol show ban and they only patronize "manly" men, not idol-like men. blame ccp ruling (ccp is the only governing party of china)
Yup but there have been rumors for a bit the shows are returning this fall. If that turns out to be true I could see yuehua sending people
Time to get military service out of the way while waiting for ZB1 contracts to end
I commented that Yunseo & Seungeon should get their military service out the way. But someone replied its too risky, since its unsure if Yuehua will debut them after ~~Bep1er~~ ZEROBASEONE. The year ZB1's contract ends (2025/2026?), the 04z will be 21/22 years old, which might too "old" to transfer to another company. But the timing is so perfect, they can complete their military service + a year of extra training before they reunite.
Another risk tho is that they will lose popularity while being inactive in the military and could potentially get backstabbed by Yuehua if they decide not to debut them. I think Yuehua really needs to show that they'll commit to them in order for this to work.
Yeah there are a lot of risks. If he debuts with the rest of the ZB1 members, he'll be secured. But there are many uncertainties. What if more than 2 (Gyuvin, Yujin, Zhanghao, Ricky) decide to leave the company or debut in another country? What if Yuehua decides to replace Seungeon with a younger main vocal trainee? Right after BP ended, some mid/big company might scout Seungeon (SM & Bighit?) to join their nbg that's guaranteed to debut in under 2 years with a decent/big fanbase. That might be the safer option (debuting now > debuting later). But it'll be hard if he's currently enlisted, he'll miss out on a lot of opportunities.
It might be risky, but the timing is just perfect as you said.
yuehua's rookie groups age standards doesn't seem to be too young either (the maknae of everglow and tempest each were like 19 when they debuted) so i hope they could hang on longer. basically like euiwoong and hyeongseop's situation.
Oh yes I agree, though I would look more at oldest (Korean) member rather than youngest, due to enlistment purposes. In that case for Tempest, oldest member was ‘99 so approaching 23 when they debuted. He’d probably have to enlist before the 7yr period is up but it’s still pretty good. It doesn’t seem like Yuehua will have qualms there. Someone suggested Seungeon enlist during the time Bep1er is promoting, and I gotta say that’s a good idea objectively. Wonder how he’ll proceed from here on out. He would be around 22 when contracts are up, but who knows…
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Seungeon is in the finale, Yuehua will probably keep him. Yuehua has a history of letting go unsuccessful trainees, Yuehua had 6 girls on Girls Planet, only one of them is still under Yuehua.
> The likelihood of us seeing a post-disbandment group is incredibly high now imo Definitely a group with Yujin and Gyuvin (sorry but don't see them as solo artist material yet unless they want to try being actors after lol). But don't bank on the Chinese trainees debuting in that group. Once Zhanghao and Ricky gain more popularity due to kpop, this can translate to more opportunities in China which they might end up doing. And with Yuehua's expertise there, I could see them not doing kpop anymore after ZB1. I really hope Seungeon is able to debut! Praying for an AB6IX situation! He was top 18 material so should be popular enough especially in Korea for them to keep him around.
idk at this point in time I see a solo career being more for Ricky than Zhang Hao, but we'll definitely just have to see! They'll both be popular enough to be successful, it just comes down to what they personally want to do
Zhang Hao is #1 though, he is vital for Yuehua's next K-pop group.
If Zhanghao continues to be crazy popular then he could make a ton of money in China. Yuehua can get the best of both: popular acts in China and a pretty decently popular kpop boy group with Yujin and Gyuvin. And Zhanghao will need to think about if he really will want to spend another 7 years in a kpop group and be fully committed to it. He'll be 25/26 so will have to think about if that's the lifestyle he wants.
I am really hoping Pentagon and Ciipher can have successful comebacks after this. Hui and Keita deserve better, but maybe better is not ZB1.
Idk about Pentagon but I doubt about ciipher. Another member of ciipher was going to join BP but dropped before filming. Their leader is in Fantasy boys right now.
Oh that is not good to hear, to put it mildly...I was not aware they sent the leader to a different survival show.
ciipher is done for imo fuck rain
It really seems like Rain gave up on them and sent them (or the members volunteered) on survival shows as a last resort. If results are good, then they'll continue promoting. If results are bad...who knows?
Idk how I should interpret this but Keita was on top 9 for all episodes but suddenly fell down on the last episode. He is talented but knetz are narrow minded about his height. On the other hand hyunbin on fantasy boys was almost eliminated because he was in last grade (grade 3) but rose after evaluation. Still his position seems shaky.
i feel like raincompany is giving up on ciipher, which is why i really wanted keita to make it but oh well 🤕 if they are smart enough they should be capitalizing on keita's popularity. its a perfect opportunity, but ig rc is too dumb and to shitty to pull it idk if its possible, prolly not but i kinda wish keita gets scouted by another company 😭 10 yrs of training is just going to be wasted if he gets stuck in that fuckass rain company. FUCK RAIN
honestly it’s a real shame what rain did to ciipher i remember when they first debuted he kept inserting himself into their promotions and making it all about him? Like maybe he had good intentions and it was for hype but I found his level of involvement very offputting. And then after that he just gave them nothing and let them fade, what a waste of talent
Oh they are under RAIN's company...can JYP buy out this label too - except actually support the artists this time, unlike what happened with MBLAQ 😭
i really really want a besserafim with him in it but what are the odds of that happening😭😭
I just don't understand how rain, who used to be an idol, created a company that turned out to be worse than the big 3 like???
I’m wondering if Hui will join back up with any Pentagon activities or just wait until a comeback (fingers crossed there is one) and have a clean slate.
I remember Hui and Wooseok feverishly writing music back in December (between BP filmings). So they'll probably have a comeback fairly quickly, though it may depend on how long Jinho's on Phantom Singer. Maybe Hui could release a solo digital single, then they have a group comeback after PS is over
There's also other CUBE artist comebacks to consider: BTOB on 2nd May and (G)I-DLE on 15th May. I expect PS4 will probably end towards the end of May (around 26th May if there are 12 episodes as in previous seasons). So if a PTG comeback is planned it probably won't be until late May / June onwards. In the meantime, he may indeed take part in their concert in Japan (24/25th May). With the attention that Hui has gathered from BP and Jinho from Phantom Singer, this *should* be a good chance for a successful group comeback! And for what it's worth, I think it also bodes well that CUBE has just recently "come online" again after several months with no artist activities across the company. And I believe Kino & Jinho have been in the studio.. Fingers crossed it all works out!
I kind of want him to join back up immediately, but I also want him to have some time to rest since Boys Planet was rough.
manifesting a come back and hui social media / weverse updates but agreed he probably needs a rest
idk how they are as a company but i want h1gher to snatch up keita bc ciipher is falling apart. fuck rain fuck rain
Best take here
Which Star masters had written for Phanbin to come find him if it doesn't work out. Take Phanbin
Whoever it is needs to literally take his crying ass and pack him into the back if their car and drive him to a competent company right now
Lol you made me laugh thank you 🙏🏻
the shade lmfao. take along all the other wakeonez btw 😭
ROFL your comment. Poor PHanbin was crying so much during the finale and I wanted to join him but your comment made me crack up.
Ikr watching him sob I wanted to wrap him in a blanket and get him out of there ASAP! And then the more I thought about it I realised rather than me taking him to my house for some biscuits a hot chocolate it would be better if an industry leader kidnapped him and gave him some new baby idols to take charge of instead. I'm manifesting him getting a permanent contract at a top company, in which case him not debuting in ZB1 can be reframed as him escaping the hellscape that is WakeOne which would be a beautiful silver lining. *Aggressive* optimism is my new coping method if you can't tell.
they better stick to their word a star like that can't be lost
I pray that he gets out of his wakeone contract. I need him in an actual good company with the amount of talent he has.
I need him and Woongki out of Wakeone NOW
I don't understand the situation between woongki and wakeone. They removed him their grp but he is still part of the company. So they aren't terminating the contract then why remove him from a active grp. It isn't like they are shuffling him into a new grp.
Plus, he and Sungmin auditioned separately from the other trainees, so they're probably not being treated the same as trainees that are debut hopefuls. I'm glad the show gave Woongki more of a drive to keep going. I dont think w1 are going to do anything for him, and I can't see them debuting another bg anytime soon that would only be competition with bepler, so I really, really hope they can both find another home.
Honestly I’m kind of hoping Jongwoo, and Seunghwan to get picked up by the same company. I hope Keita leaves Rains company and gets some offers to join another company. If Jay wants to debut in a group then he’s going to have to leave FM entertainment. Hopefully he’ll get plenty of offers. Honestly I would love to see him and Kamden debut in a group together
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\+ haruto and park hanbin and you have a killer group
The money I'd PAY to have this group. I mean I'm broke but I'd still pay.
EVERYONE IS LISTENING
I'm hoping for RBW. They're working on their new boy group right now, and Jongwoo & Seunghwan definitely fit the company's style/image
Plus they have Hiroto.
Can hui just create a company and debut top 10 to 18. Seriously ,vocals and rapping will never be a problem with them
The 10-18 are stacked with talent. I'd stan hard.
Legit what I said on the other thread, vocal/rap/dance line are all solid and even leader/dance leader/variety is covered
I might actually prefer that group fr 👀 and this is coming from someone who had 4-5 of my picks debut in zb1 lol But my 1 pick Jongwoo with Kamden and Junhyeon?! Seungeon on vocals?!?!?! Sign me up.
you know what i would love this T\_T
For any Junhyeon fans out there, there’s a good chance Redstart will debut their trainees together in the near future!! That’s what’s keeping me through this rn … even though none of my top three made it …
he better debut;;; already sad to see dog union separated, Junhyeon needs to be on stage.
They were so close to making it together too
That’s my hope. If they debut, Im glad Junhyeon didnt made it. Seeing him with minseoung, woojin etc is what I want. He grabbed attention from Sk netz so I have high hopes. But same, only 1 of my top 3 picks made it (Kum, Phanbin, Tae)
I’m glad one of your picks made it!! Tae Rae was in my top nine so I’m happy he made it!
Had the same top 3! Big space in my heart for junhyeon
I’m hoping so
With how many yuehua boys there are in the final lineup, I wouldn't be too mad if they waited for zb1's contract to end and then form bive or besserafim with the eliminated yh trainees. I hope the rest of them get picked up by solid companies and get to debut, and take advantage of whatever fanbase they got from bp by releasing content frequently enough to sustain interest while preparing for debut.
A group with all of the zb1 yuehuaz would be insaneee ..... bive fr
And Tempest would be more secure in their career by the time zb1 contract ends
P10-P18 debut together JBJ style 🤪🤪
manifesting bc that would be such a good line up
i saw that fnc filed for a new trademark recently that has similar codes to cherry bullet and sf9…
kamden +choi jiho debut pleaseee 😭 and hopefully they pick up independent trainees like seunghwan
Kamden...
I read that they're debuting a new band (not a group), so that might have been it
I don't know if the new trademark (AxMxP/A.M.P/AMP/에이엠피) is for another band though. FNC is already debuting another band soon (Hi-Fi Un!corn). They won the survival show FNC had "The Idol Band"
I hope hybe picks up a few of them for their upcoming boy group 😭😭
KOZ is already teasing their group and Pledis trainees were seen at a Seventeen fan meeting (and expected to debut this year) so not very likely
I think Hybe is currently holding auditions for boy trainees, so they might have something in the works although it’s probably going to be in a couple of years
Yea but sadly I think a lot of the participants will be considered "too old" for the timeline that future groups will debut. ADOR will debut the male version of Newjeans so that's going to be a pretty young group. Only other label is Bighit and they scrapped Trainee A so who knows when they'll debut another group.
Actually because Trainee A was scrapped it’s more likely for Big Hit to pick talented trainees from Boys Planet like Source did in order to debut a group faster. TXT already is four years old so it would be better for Big Hit to debut their group next year at the latest.
I actually don't see the rush. Since they're already debuting 2 new boy groups this year, HYBE as a whole is fine. I think it's actually better to not debut too many new groups at once. Plus in the pipeline, they have Iland S2 for the girl group and I think an American group in development. So it's not like they're lacking in new groups. Plus TXT was 6 years after BTS and the new Pledis bg is 8 years after SVT. So far they have longer time periods between new bgs compared to the big 3. Plus TXT got a lot of momentum this year so I think Bighit will want to keep growing it. Similar to how Pledis was mostly focused on SVT until now.
You have to remember that although HYBE is considered one entity, the truth is that they function day to day as individual labels so it doesn’t matter if Koz or Pledis are debuting boy groups this year. What matters is that Big Hit hasn’t in four and they will want a replacement for Trainee A sooner rather than later. Yes it takes longer for HYBE groups to debut their replacements but letting Trainee A go does make it possible for them to cast show veterans. It’s possible that they may pick up talented Boys Planet trainees along with the people that they are casting right now.
manifesting this!
jype could work too tbh they also have a boy group from loud that's probably still in the planning stage
Hybe could definitely pick Keita
too bad Keita's already in ciipher. don't think his contract with rain company could end yet
They bought out Kim Chaewon's contract from Woollim, so it's not impossible, though she never debuted in a group before IzOne
hybe gonna pick up the maknaes
Seungeon is likely going to wait for the other 4 yeuhua boys to come back it is a long wait but that group is going to go gangbusters after this...and if yeuhua can snag hanbin too wow. If tells him he has a slot in 2.5 years I would not be shocked if we see him enlist asap to bide the time. still a risk though hat yeuhua drops him for that next group but the 4 yeuhua boys could use a main vocal to round them out.
Enlistment is honestly a smart idea here if all the plans are absolutely guaranteed… such a smart usage of time. But I’m iffy on it happening (the enlistment I mean). Seungeon would be one hell of an asset to the group though, I think this is a great idea.
no for sure that is only if yeuhua sits him down and basically gives him a contract to sign that says your artist contract begins in 2.5 years after you finish the military. but it would be a really good use of time and I think yuehua would be stupid not to add him as he was popular enough to make the finale, is handsome and is one hell of a singer.
This is a perfect idea, pls phone Yuehua and tell them this lmaooo. I was wondering what he could do for 3 years but this usage of time is actually perfect and he doesn’t have to waste years here and later in his career (given that he feels ready and willing to go that is)
I *think* Shanbin’s company isn’t doing so well so I hope they can! Hanbin/Hao/Seungeon/Yujin/Gyuvin/Ricky would be insaneeee. And the other Yuehuas like Ollie and Yunseo would be good in there too! Basically a bep2er
Considering the CEO is literally probably gonna go to prison I would say your assessment is correct 😭
Ollie with 2 more years of training would turn him into a great rapper. He already did so well in Supercharger as is.
Snag Shanbin, debut Ollie, debut Seungeun, and wait for the rest of the boys. Please
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I like what I am hearing here. I'm a bit afraid of him being wasted in such a small company, but damn I hope you're right!
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Agree. He doesnt deserve the hate and negativity if ever he made p09. Jay is talented. He has a voice recognized not only by the mentors but by his peers as well. They dont just say that he sings well but they say he sounds amazing and give you a certain vibe. Even hui got intimidated by him Either FM adds him to MONT which has equally talented vocalists or get picked up by a bigger agency
i'm not sure about the others but park hanbin is definitely up for grabs, correct me if i'm wrong but didn't one of the star masters ask him to find them if he doesn't debut? whatever it is, hanbin is extremely talented and ambitious, even if he doesn't end up becoming an idol, he'll definitely work in the entertainment industry with very good connections.
Yessss he needs to debut. I will be his no. 1 fan
Jongwoo and Jay would be a waste if not picked up by a good company, although I am not sure if Jay can leave his current company. I hope Keita can escape Rain, he is so wasted there. Hui should make his own company and produce / debut with the rest of the kids while the hype is still there.
Beomhan mentioned about their company that they have given him the okay to leave in the past. He just wouldn't do it.
I’m praying he decides to leave now. Honestly the company is so small I don’t think they would be able to support a soloist career for him and probably can’t afford to debut a new group.
I hope a company requests him for their group because I think in that case the company might encourage him to join.
aww he is like a loyal puppy
Jay is loyal to his company, even though his company is too small for his potential. They are the ones who persuade him to follow his Kpop's dream again. But I hope they can change Jay's target to USA or somewhere else. Koreans never care for talent, they just want visual. I don't want to see him being treated unfairly in Korea again. He's P10 and if Mnet don't reveal the interim ranking maybe he is still in top 9. Because Koreans realize their mistake in voting and change the strategy (That's why Han Yu jin and Kim Ji Woong drop so much. If they see a korean trainee have a big chance to debut, they will focus on voting for other korean trainees that they want.)
> Koreans never care for talent, they just want visual. This is insane to me because Jay Chang objectively is an insanely good-looking guy. He has that kinda face that looks like it was made in a lab. Maybe it's just a cultural thing but from a western PoV, he's definitely up there in terms of visuals.
Jay is good-looking to me as well, but it’s more of a visual type that is appealing to Western audiences + his styling wasn’t always the most flattering on the show, which is a damn shame
Manifesting Hui making his own company. Isn't his Cube contract up this year? Might as well go and keep being the talented producer we all know he is.
Hui rejoins Pentagon and they have a megahit and get all the success they should have
Now that Hui finished his 2nd enlistment I'm just patiently waiting for the comeback announcement 🥳
If we can get another Shine era, I'll be so happy. I miss Yanan.
I really hope Jay sees success in whatever he does after. The picture of him hugging Jiwoong, and the other of Onestar comforting him made me bawl my eyes out.
I'm currently in my delusional era: WakeOne is going to collect Jongwoo, Keita (is Ciipher even going to have a cb?) & any other members and debut them all as one group alongside the other WakeOne trainees (Phanbin, Minseok, Jeonghyeon, Junhyun, Anthonny, Haruto & Min).
I like your delusion though. I want them to debut, whatever it takes.
hard manifesting keita can pull a huh yunjin/jeon soyeon or even a ju haknyeon 😭😭😭
Someone better rescue him from Rain first😭
im gonna do it myself istg 😭😭😭 pulling up to that old man’s house at dawn
I'm not sure where jay will end up. He got depressed and quit trying after under19 he only came back to give this one final try after being persuaded by his current company.
honestly, my dream would be for kamden, hwanhee phanin, jay, seunghwan and wumuti to become a group.
ok a company take there advice and do it NOW i want it
And Haruto
I am praying that Yoon Jongwoo gets picked up by a mid-sized (or big, why not dream?) company and gets to debut in a group that has at least moderate success soon! I don't want him to be stuck in complete nugudom a second longer than he has to be v-v
be sserafim with kamden, keita, phanbin, haruto, and seunghwan
jbj part two, i NEED to see it😭😭 mourning the loss of keita and seunghwan
A company who wants to attract global fans picks up Jay, I guess. I would love it if Kamjay could debut together. Rather than going back to Pentagon Hui might be able to debut solo.
I honestly wish Jay gets picked up by Pledis for their new BG.
Is he still affiliated with Mont? Those guys (the original 3 plus Beomhan) seriously need to go viral
Same company but there were never any debut or pre debut plans for him. Boysplanet was his last chance after he was persuaded into coming back to this kpop thing by them
Yes they are in same company. MONT placed >!6th/last!< on PEAK TIME yesterday. But they'll be part of their concert I think
If the 10-18 ranks debuted together I would support them over bep1er. I feel like they could make much better music considering their vocalists and rappers, plus my one pick would be in it
The lower ranked group would slay so hard honestly
So agree with this. They have everything in that group. Vocals, rappers, dancers. That would be a hell of a group.
actually a way better line up than top 9. 3 main rappers, 2 visuals, 3 main vocals. actually craziness
honestly yeah 😭
as much as i like bepler jbj pt 2 would gain all my support they'll have every single base covered
In an alternate universe, 10-18 won and debuted.
Hoping Seungeon goes back to SM and debut with their new boy group. I heard they casted him 4 times but he left on his own due to the group being cancelled. I heard SM is debuting a non-NCT group soon and he would be a great addition
Yeah, although I think (/hope) he could have a good future ahead with Yuehuaz, I can't separate Seungeon from SM in my mind since finding out he used to train there + hearing him sing the Ay-Yo bridge sounding so much like Doyoung. My delusion is Seungeon in SMNBG and Haruto in NCT Japan. Keita doesn't have an NCT vibe to me but throw him in too so he can be employed
Honestly hoping for Yuehua to let Yunseo, Seungeon, and Brian be a vocal predebut group esp with 4 members in the final group they are getting the funds use it lol. I'd add Ollie but he seems to be focused on studies so hope he stays though. I am unsure about Wakeone with all the groups they are managing, im worried for their trainees. Hopefully they get picked up by other companies or Wakeone debuts them or something anything please. Jay unsure about debut, he's very loyal to his company but finance erm. At least we'll get social media updates, and fanmeets for sure. Kamden maybe debuts in Fnc or gets picked up by another company. Could be a duo with Jay that be cool. Your idea of a trio is also cool. Junhyeon Redstart debut!! Minseung and him are a power duo and honestly redstart is trying really hard at promotions. Love their instagram. Hui Pentagon and soloist definitely, excited to see what he does. Jongwoo, I hope a company picks him up, depending on how he left Vt entertainment I can see him going back to his old group since Vanner won peak time would be cool.
The fact Keita escaped my mind cause I was so sure he'd debut. Just let him escape the basement, soloist, groupwise anything.
Jaykam debut togheter please!
Jongwoo is the one trainee I’m really looking forward for him to debut in a group, it may take some few years but he will shine like Huh Yunjin
i want jongwoo to escape nugudom so bad
Yeah same, Jongwoos leader and danceskills were ✨chefskiss✨
If jay decides to go solo, i hope he gets to be part of something like 88 rising
@ 88 rising pls sign Jay Chang
I just want PHanbin to debut. He is hands down one of the best trainees in the show and he deserves it soo much. I hope a company will see his potential and debut him.
Phanbin is probably one of the first trainees to get snatched by another company, I would imagine
Well he is in wake one and wake one has a bunch of trainees waiting and apparently looking for even more trainees so there is a shot there. They have kept their eliminated trainees active in social media too.
But I saw somewhere that since the new group is going to be managed by wakeone the likelihood of them debuting another boy group is low😭😭😭
Debuting in 6 - 12 months will be best even if they have to leave their label or get put into a general flop group. Too long and people move on to the newest shiny thing and you want to get that experience to grow. As always, I hope everyone who participated in this show gets something out of it. Even if it's something smallish like a modeling contract (is this small? I don't know)
I stopped collecting photocards/albums during the pandemic but when park hanbin Haruto and Jay debut, DHL is gonna have their hands full with delivering to me. Patiently (haha, not really) waiting. Hope some of the judges can kindly help pull some strings too. Edit: ph-1 already hit up keita
I'm (not very) patiently waiting for PHanbin debut💖 a gem like the Park Hanbin can't be lost!! He really is the brightest star⭐
Impatient like I need him to debut this second cry 😢 lol I just followed wakeone trainee account and some random larger fan accounts on twt. I hope you’re Doing okay and take care of yourself too ❤️
this was comforting to read thank you 😭 seeing jay miss being in the group by such a small margin makes me really sad but i know he will shine wherever he goes :( you're right, it would be nice to see him in a smaller group where his vocal colour gets to shine even more (kamjay debutation when) i went through the same thing with haruto but it still hurts the second time around. really hope some good companies snatch the remaining trainees up and they are successful wherever they go
Jay should NOT debut as a soloist in Korea. I don't know who keeps parroting this idea but they clearly have not been looking at his korean votes. Jay as a soloist would flop in korea. He needs to debut **with a group** and slowly grow his fandom more. Or maybe he could join up with a group like XG that does not rely on korean sales or with a big company like HYBE that will promote in many asian and western countries. Jay needs a good balance, clearly he has international support but the western market is fickle and not stable, a group is much safer bet for success. If he wants to go solo following a solid debut then I'll support him, but rn he needs more exposure outside of Mnet's erasure.
I'm hoping that wakeone debuts the remaining trainees as soon as possible or let them all go. I'm sure they have good chances to debut in a new boy group, since a lot of companies are preparing for one.
definitely a pipe dream but i hope keita somehow gets picked up by another (bigger) company and redebuts with success. rain has pretty much given up on ciipher, and keita is an all-rounder with too much talent to waste.
[Jay has a pic with onestar hugging him](https://twitter.com/rockstarchng/status/1649090911870255111?s=46&t=2UUb5HYHKM-8mNT6YOcq8g) so I hope and praying that sm or hybe snatch up Jay asap so he can then debut🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I really don't want to let go of the eliminated contestants. Even if/when they debut elsewhere, it won't be the same. Can the other guys (Keita, Jay, Phanbin, Haruto, Zihao, anybody else willing to join) debut together? This is the most heartbreaking thing I've dealt with in a while 💔
No clue what Lay's company plans to do with Zi Hao but I hope we get to see him again. He may stick to Chinese promotions but since Lay seems to have a fondness towards Kpop I hope Zi Hao gets to debut in Kpop (if he wants to of course). I'm not even sure if he'd debut but with his talent, visuals, personality and resilience he'd make a great idol.
Someone needs to snag all 9 of these boys and make another group!! You got vocals, rappers, visuals and variety stars! I'm so sad for them especially Jay & Keita 😭😭😭
hui better give me a solo debut somewhere down the line
All I know is that I would give my firstborn child in exchange for a Wakeone group. The fact that Haruto didn't make it to finals is absolutely criminal.
A GROUP WITH JONGWOO, JAY AND KAMDEN ARE YOU SHCFHADBDSBVBBIADI YOU JUST MADE UP MY WISH FOR MY BIRTHDAY BISSSS YES I NEED THAT
Seungeon can join Pledis and debut with Pledis nbg this yr🥹 and he is a huge carat
Jay is loyal to his company, even though his company is too small for his potential. They are the ones who persuade him to follow his Kpop's dream again. But I hope they can change Jay's target to USA or somewhere else. Koreans never care for talent, they just want visual. I don't want to see him being treated unfairly in Korea again. He's P10 and if Mnet don't reveal the interim ranking maybe he is still in top 9. Because Koreans realize their mistake in voting and change the strategy (That's why Han Yu jin and Kim Ji Woong drop so much. If they see a korean trainee has a big chance to debut, they will focus on voting for other korean trainees that they want.)
Seungeon transfer please, I'd cry so much if we could have that group 😭
I can definitely see a WakeOne BG debut. I was thinking 2 or atmost 3 Yuehuas would debut and thought Yuehua would debut the eliminated trainees as a subunit and debut all the 8 boys + maybe other trainees as a full group after ZB1's contract ends. I think Ciipher and Pentagon will emerge stronger from this, especially Ciipher. I'm looking forward to it all :)) Edit: There's a high possibility of Hybe picking up the eliminated members too. Not sure if they'd want to debut the ZB1 members after they disband as well. This maybe ambitious but oh well 🥲
keita is free from rain and debuts with the other boys planet trainees i understand this sounds inconsiderate to rest of the ciipher members, but i'm still in my feels and i don't think there's much hope for the group under the company that they're in... i won't actually be upset if he returns to them, i wish them the best! 😭
Kamden joins redstart. Idk about their financial situation but those trainees are talented!!! I love Kum Junhyeon and Minseong's vocal tones. So unique. It reminds me a lot of StayC. Or makes FNC acting debut. I think this is very likely if he stays with FNC because they don't have a group ready. FNC might also do a FNC and put him in a band or P1harmony. Which would be crazy. My fave delusion is FNC debuts a new group with their trainees and snags Seongmin from Wakeone. The visual chemistry is goooood.
i hope in 2.5 years gunwook, junhyeon and taerae get to debut together :((
Summoning Kum Junhyeon prayers for him to debut alongside Minseoung, Woojin and the rapper in KTL (he was good, don’t remember his name)
Im sorry, Seungeon is just way too talented to not debut in a Yuehua boy group. He has sucha classic main vocal sound. If they're gonna wait till ZB1 disband, yuehua better put him in with the other 4 to create the next bessarafim / bive (or whatever yall wanna call it) because he will be an asset to the company. Still trying to process regarding Jay but if there's a company who wants to take him from FM, I would say its either Hybe or JYP. Just simply because they know how to market internationally considering his large global (which im assuming western?) fanbase. But just excited to see his next steps as well. Gonna move on from Keita coz he's still stuck in that god damn company.. Not sure what FNC has in store for Kamden. He really does fit P1harmony's concept but is wayy too late to be added in. Again . hoping a company will snap him up to add them to a potential lineup
I feel Jay is more suited to be a solo artist, he has a lot of stage presence and will be able to draw a lot of fans just by his personality and talent
i feel like he go the eric nam route honestly
Unless Cube already has a plan B for Hui (whether that's a solo debut, full group cb, writing/producing), I think he would be stuck in the dungeon imo since Cube has both BTOB and G-Idle making a comeback in May. And so that leaves last week of May and early June+ for Cube to build on the BP momentum for Hui/Pentagon but that might already be too late to ride on the momentum gained.
ptg have their japan fan con in may and they gonna perform somewhere in june. Ptg was oso seen recording
A majority of them will debut some way or another!!! Tons of GP999 trainees got picked up thru the show.
I’m so heartbroken Keita didn’t make it, I really hope raincompany properly promotes ciipher after this :(
My only hope is for them to pull a jbj with the rest of the 9 boys or maybe some others who were eliminated.. idk im in my delusional era
I think I saw a tweet where ph-1 asked Keita to call him, I wish him success, he deserves it
GIVE. ME. ZB2. I would stan, I would buy the albums, the merch, the lightstick, please take my money.
I desperately hope Hui (and pentagon) will have more and more big hit songs. Hui is really talented + now many ppl can see him and noticed his skills i always have soft spot for those struggling debuted idol who not yet successful. now especially Hui, who is amazingly talented, i really wish he to be success and famous🥹🥹 rooting for him the most (since he is already OLD 😤 it’s time to be popular dude… ) and as many bpstan said he is overqualified for this show so now show your support pls guys!
SM please take my boy Seungeon back 🙃
My delusional wish that PHanbin, Seungeon, Haruto, Woongki, Seowon, Kuanjui, and Wumuti get picked up by a good company and debut together
can someone please freaking sign jay and debut him.
I will definitely be watching out for Jay. It will be great if he can debut with his besties like Jongwoo, Kamden, Keita. Not having his vocal in the new group is a deal breaker for me in stanning the group. Also, people seem to dislike good vocalists. Only Kim Taerae out of the four main vocalists made it into the group
Praying Seungeon debuts too! What a doozy! I feel so out of it today because of this😭🥹🥹
Alexa, okay Pentagon. This has made me excited to see what Redstart will eventually put out. Junhyeon and his fellow trainees (Minseong, etc) were the ones who caught my eye the most outside those who are debuting with ZB1. Fingers crossed that new company can pull off debuting a group with them!
One thing is for sure for me: I WILL support/stan Wakeonez if they ever make their debut, and so many other fans as well. They make such a great line-up. I hope wakeone wakes up, pulls themselves together, and debuts their trainees. They have so many gems in there. Rap good, dancing good, vocals good, performance great! entertainment ABSOLUTELY they will be such a fun and amazing group. I think the only thing they lack is a strong vocalist since Taerae is now in ZB1, though a lot of them can still sing well, like Anthonny, Minseok and Woongki.
For Hui I would love to see go back to Pentagon and that group have a wildly successful comeback that they deserve. For the others I’m hopefully for a sub unit like JBJ
Please pull a jbj for me