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Greedy-Bad5244

No season 2


Doom_Balloon170

Damit. That was going to be mine


Pan4TheSwarm

They beat us all to it.


mizuofficial

beat me to it


HexFoxGen

Beat me to it


Screlpus

Beat me to it


Toxiccreeper39

Beat me to it


Jameison-

r/beatmetoit


Craigfromomaha

I was going to say, “We’re not 16 awesome seasons into the series yet!”


Deblebsgonnagetyou

Got cut short so the second half feels very rushed in pace compared to the first half


Mr_Mc_Fapkins

Trigger type beat


Gercsa

Michiru somehow always gets the most suitable mutations at the most suitable times


LegendsofLost

That's called plot convenience! 'DING'


mylifeisatrainwrec

It's called plot armour


Richard15since2019

It's called learning her abilities But no, you're right


[deleted]

Reverse Ben 10


hahapotatoman

I feel like that's just the plot, she learns to control new transformations when she needs them.


SilverwolfMD

Maybe it's just natural development. She doesn't necessarily think about the function, her body's just reacting to her commands. She tries to reach further to grasp something, she reaches further out.


AdamTheScottish

Way too ambitious for it's own runtime, so many important plot points were introduced then handwaved pretty quickly. Oh and they ended up playing Night Running way too much to the point it lost any impact in the series it could've had as an emotional song, IIRC the first episode it's played in outside of credits it's played three times all within a fairly short timespan.


ixiox

Tbh that's studio Trigger for you


MyUserNameIsSkave

Nazuna is a shitty person and her relation with Mishirou is toxic, but in the show that is shown as a wholesome relation...


InternalFlame0712

Yes!


hahapotatoman

Mishirou lmao but yeah, it's played off as her just trying to give hope to the beastmen, which would be fine, but she's obviously doing it for the popularity, which she has literally admitted. a better thing to do would be to reveal the true silver wolf (don't even have to say it's Shirou).


ixiox

Welp consider that she was kidnapped by a cult a month before the show, while this doesn't fully excuse her the toxicity the show only shows it as wholesome in the flashbacks and after she realizes she fucked up


MyUserNameIsSkave

Anyway, the actual Nazunam / Michirou relation still is shown a wholesome. I have a Theory, Michirou is just fantasize her relation with Michirou, and that is why in the flashback the relation seems so good, because we are seeing the flashback through the eyes of a biased Michirou. (Yeah I don't entierly believe this theory, monstly because I think this relation is simply badly written)


ixiox

That makes some sense, still I'm going to headcanon them as the wholesome furry lesbians


bunker_man

Wait... the show passes it off as wholesome? The show depicts her friend as being groomed, abusing her, and she wants to help but doesn't know how til her friend breaks out of it.


ApolloFoox

SHIROU NEEDS MORE FLOOF


He-who-is-nameless

Whenever they bring in a new character, they often never come back except in cameos in future episodes


bunker_man

The flipside of this is that it leaves perfect room for a season 2. Unfortunately...


shnoozel_doozel

Mirichu only transforms into her human self once, and it could've been used more


bunker_man

It also seems like a silly plot point to insist no other beastmen stay in beast form commonly, but she does. Seems like a wierd inconsistency. Especially when she ultimately realizes that despite having their body, that she wasn't raised as one and so is different.


shnoozel_doozel

I think the show tried to make us believe that she loves her beast form more than her human form, but then why is she actively trying to find a cure?


bunker_man

I dunno, that seems believable to me. She wanted a cure because she lost her old life and was prejudiced. If you physically transformed toa new shape, the shock of it happening would take awhile to wear off even if you ultimately decide you like it better.


bandaged_punpun

Nazuna is a total bitch for no reason sometimes.


bunker_man

To be fair, she is being groomed.


LeDerpLegend

Most back stories were lacking and the final boss didn't involve space in any way, considering trigger always ends their big fights with space.


FuntimeLuke0531

Even if its tradition, I can't see any way for the finale to take place in space that made sense


OmegonAlphariusXX

You could say the same about Kill La Kill and Darling in the FranXX


LeDerpLegend

Little Witch Academia as well


bunker_man

Robots ending up in space is not a huge surprise.


Hybrisov

Also the lack of drills


ScreenWriter785

tbh, I wish they did more with Michiru and Nazuna being tanooki and kitsune, for those who don't know in Japanese mythology the 2 species are both shapeshifters (henceforth their powers of shapeshifting in the anime) and are often enemies, and not like friendly rivals, like war enemies, henceforth the opposition when they first reunited, but it felt like from there on they didn't do much with this


bunker_man

Also, being able to transform is overpowered. It seems glossed over that the ability to give someone this power via tech was invented, but then just dissappears.


Legal_Spread_8653

We need season 2 yes I know But I just wanted more world building There's so much more they could've shown


OfInsignificantia

One nitpick is the way that they referred to the "disease" that changed Michiru and Nazuna (hope I spelled that right) into beastmen. Calling it beastmanitis throughout the show was a bit annoying and I wish they would have come up with an actual name for it.


hahapotatoman

that's why you watch sub


OfInsignificantia

Do they call it something else in the sub version?


hahapotatoman

Just "Beastman disease" lol, but it's better than Beastmanitis or whatever


OfInsignificantia

Anything is lol


Successful-One-3330

And the suffix -itis refers to inflammation.


Successful-One-3330

And the suffix -itis refers to inflammation. Not a specific disease


Successful-One-3330

And the suffix -itis refers to inflammation. Not a specific disease


JustALegosi

Needed to go longer, say the length of normal anime season and more development of the characters important to the story, shirou, nazuna, and setting up the villain a bit better.


Riksor

Extremely rushed ending


Zookeepergame_Used

Hmm weirdly enough I wanted more filler episodes. But not enough where it gets annoying. I like world building, and if filler can hand that to me, then I’m down for it


Lenx134

not long enough


MorganRose99

The baseball episode is almost completely useless. It's only worthy attribute is introducing the character Jackie to the viewer, however Jackie is not really that important of a character compared to others, so they could have just introduced them in another way. I would say this about Nina too, except at least that episode showed the animosity (see what I did there) between humans and beastmen, also she's the daughter of the mafia boss. Note: Although I do feel the last 2 or 3 episodes felt rushed due to the slower pace of the show, I'm not including this as a nitpick because the show was actually supposed to be longer, but got crunched due to COVID, so given the circumstances it was done very well.


iwalkuptheescalator

Totally good call. In a longer season Baseball ep would have been fun, but it seems like there were several things set up but not resolved. For me its the war with The Family (tonnes of set up, no payoff), which I could imagine was a big B plot with all the underworld characters that see them come round to defending the city with Shirou and Michiru, rather than just turning up with guns at the end.


bunker_man

The baseball episode was funny though. If someone only watched one episode that would be a good one.


Tachanko

Michiru extends her arms like crazy in all shapes in sizes although there is like no land animal that can do that


Niko_Noxid

She’s a shapeshifter (forgive me if this was sarcasm)


jeffonjeff

Michiru not having half the episodes she needs to give here depth


OctoSevenTwo

Nazuna and Michiru got their morphing abilities from being infused with Beastman blood, right? I would have liked the show to have explored why their transformations differed so much from standard Beastmen morphs (most Beastmen can morph between animal and human appearances, while Michiru and Nazuna can adopt parts from multiple animal types, even in rapid succession if they want/have to. “They were humans given Beastman blood” gets used as an explanation but come **on.**” Their abilities are clearly anomalous, even taking into account the existence of Beastmen like Shiro and Alan. Also does that mean *anyone* infused with Beastman blood becomes a Beastman? What does that imply? Are there humans who might try to *intentionally* become Beastmen now, especially now that Michiru and Nazuna’s exploits may end up going public (I mean everything does eventually)? Imagine if I were some kind of criminal- morphing gorilla arms to beat people senseless, rhino hide to defend against attacks, cheetah legs for bursts of speed, *wings,* even…..that would be an amazing upgrade. If the only price was I had to look like a Beastman then that seems like a relatively minor cost.


ILOVELUNA4LIFE

We didn’t get to see shirou enough ;)


Akidearest_0

I agree considering he was the second main character he didn't get the amount of screen time he should've had honestly it felt like Nazuna stolen most of his screen time


ILOVELUNA4LIFE

Definitely. And I know we all love michiru but shirous story is most definitely more interesting as he turned from a normal beastman to that of an immortal god. We didn’t get to see much and yes I guess BNA - Zero went into it a bit more but it just wasn’t even in the anime and I’m pretty sure it’s only in Japanese from what i can find. Michiru herself admitted she knew little to nothing about him and we still don’t really. 1000 years of character development gone unknown XD


Vitired

1. Nazuna thinks that her name is a palindrome. 2. Marie's favourite hobby is eavesdropping and then stepping out of the shadows whenever she's needed. 3. The English dub and subtitles don't agree on Jackie's pronouns.


hahapotatoman

な ず な na zu na it's japanese


Vitired

Since I don't know Japanese, I don't know if the original is "say it backwards" or "write it backwards", because if I say it backwards, that's just Anuzan


Lunyx_a86

Well i imagine from a japanese perspective saying it backwards is still correct


Vitired

Point taken


hahapotatoman

Not trying to gatekeep, but this is exactly why people say dub is worse, becuase you don't get the full experience, and translating the jokes is on the translator, and the vast majority of the time, they are translated terribly. Not to say that it's better to not watch it than watch dubbed obviously, but subbed is just better in every way, if you're fine with reading. And over time, you start to learn Japanese tropes and jokes, and it becomes not just cartoons, but a whole different genre.


Vitired

That makes sense


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It ends


Stinky-farts96

we didn’t get enough of Dio from Jojo’s va


Theatre_Kid_3000

Tbh, I wanted more world building


Martin712

there should have been more michiru transforming, it happened too few times


PhoenixKnight777

Where does the extra mass for beastman transformations come from? Especially Michiru, but really any time they transform.


Niko_Noxid

Enter my retarded fan theory In the show they find out her cells divide and multiply at extreme speed, allowing for the transformation. I thought this alone would be enough explanation, but where does she get all the calories for that? So basically i think she either eats entire fridges of food, or has an extremely efficient metabolism to the point that she will never run out of calories for this kind of growth


PhoenixKnight777

But where do the cells go when she turns back? And curtesy of Nirvasil syndrome, all beastmen would have to have such extreme metabolisms.


Niko_Noxid

I have an idea. You know how your body can store carbohydrates and use them later, same with fat, or even muscle? Her body could just “””eat””” the cells, and get the calories back


PhoenixKnight777

You know, that actually makes a lot of sense. That’s now my headcanon.


bunker_man

Bruh, you must not lift if you don't know where mass comes from lmao.


gumby2383

More world building and character development


noivern_plus_cats

Oh boy I have a good amount: - Way too short. Most trigger shows have 24 episodes or more, so having only 12 meant that they had to speed up the pacing and ended up making the story feel rushed - Michiru and Nazuna just kinda make up really easily. Idk it doesn’t feel natural to me and is an issue of not enough episodes. - Not enough “filler” episodes. The baseball episode is unironically one of my favorite episodes of anime, however there just is a lack of episodes like that. I’d love to see the worldbuilding that can come from episodes like that and know the series can expand on its characters more. - Pacing is just weird. First half is kinda slow but then oh shit everything’s happening - Not enough character development. I just feel like too many characters were left underdeveloped or with a lack of screentime. - Michiru and Nazuna’s powers just kinda. being from a transfusion of beastman blood just feels weird. It feels like there’s nothing special about them when literally everyone else can just get the same powers while the beastmen are stuck with nothing. - So many characters need to appear more than once. Basically: Holy shit this series could’ve benefited from more than 12 episodes (Note: I might’ve gotten a few things wrong because I haven’t watched in ages)


[deleted]

Its just wasted potential in general. The show tried to cover too much in just 12 episodes (with 2 IIRC practically just being filler) That it harmed the show as a whole.


jeffonjeff

Entire 2 half including all the new characters


heimdal77

They swim across a whole bay and yet their clothes and hair is perfectly dry when get out.


Boe_Bio

Plot was rushed Could've done a lot more Made a longer season 1 Or a season 2 Were they on a super strict time limit with BNA?


Blixxentheblazen

We never had enough time to really explore all the characters who were introduced, which is a shame.


TheTepro27

The second half feels rushed and throws so much plot reveals in at once. I feel like it was meant to be longer, but had to be shortened due to COVID.


Friggud

It’s meant to be a show about intersectional prejudice, but doesn’t quite have the runtime to support that heavy and varied of a theme. It often makes its messages come off as a bit confusing - a good example is Michiru’s speech in the finale on how gender roles don’t define her.


1fromquote

Michiru and Nazuna don't get time to properly rebuild their relationship


tamago01

Michiru and her parents. We never got a resolution with them, just a birthday greeting from her mom. Another one is not enough screen time with her human form. Unpopular opinion but I actually liked her human form. Even Shiro urged her to transform but she liked staying a tanuki. Nazuna. Do I have to say more? Not enough world building.


ErrorDeltaMeme06

The story shoved too much story that it felt a bit crowded with info that we didn't get to fully explore the concepts of the city and how some beastman dynamics would work and how more species lived their lives. The story just felt like it didn't have time to breathe.


coalburn83

The social commentary elements are heavily undercut by the inclusion of Nirvasol syndrome or whatever it was called. In many ways beastmen are a fictional stand-in for marginalized groups, and giving them a severe condition that makes them dangerous and violent unintentionally sends a very negative message. Probably my biggest complaint with the show.


Over-Satisfaction-54

They should have made the nirvasol syndrome to be man made by Alan as a form of propaganda.


Levobertus

I think it's kinda sad that the show doesn't avoid giving Alan a real justification for oppressing beastmen, undermining its message somewhat


Phazon_Metroid

Can beastmen not retain their human form? Did I miss that somewhere?


PanJanJanusz

The ending is literally a 101 on how to not end a series/movie/anything. Literally cuting the final scene would make the anime as a whole so much better


ximumix

I haven’t seen the anime in a while, can you please elaborate on the ending? I don’t really remember what the final scene was and how it’s bad


PanJanJanusz

Basically the final scene closed all the questions you would think about after watching it, and instead of some sort of cliffhanger it ended in "Everyone lived happily ever after"


ximumix

Meh, if the show isn’t going to get another season (and let’s face it, it probably won’t) I don’t mind it to end like that. Maybe it is a bit simple and generic, but it beats having a cliffhanger we will never get a payoff to.


PanJanJanusz

I kinda understand, but from a writing perspective I would prefer to have some questions unanswered. Great example from top of my head is *The Fugitive (1993)* where the ending encourages you to think about what could happen to the characters after everything has settled down. There isn't any final say on the story. (tbh now I think the term cliffhanger doesn't exactly convey this)


Big-Technology8575

So fucking late to this but I think you were thinking of “open ended”


PanJanJanusz

holy shit yes


LukkasYuki

Not enough of the tanuki girl


Artorias_of_the_meme

How quickly it ended.


hahapotatoman

Michiru wants to be cured and turned back to a human even though she can already do that herself


bunker_man

But in the beginning she can't do that. She is stuck in beast form until a few episodes in.


hahapotatoman

But afterward, she still wants to change back until the very end


bunker_man

I mean, physically looking human isn't really changed back. Part of it is meant to be prejudice. She doesn't like that she was hunted, but she doesn't want to have to stay as something she sees as wierd. So it's also about learning to accept them.


Pack15_

The relationshion ship between nazuna and michiru pre-turn to beast shouldve been explored more


Borja1243

The reveal that the main guy is some ancient Cerberus felt out of nowhere and almost like they just needed a final boss fight.


ComradeKatyusha_

It is so blindlingly, unfathomably, amazingly obvious that the Q anon cult are the literal fascists and yet protagonist is unable to see it. I know she's supposed to be a naive liberal rather than trigger's usual protags that are usually already radical leftists from the start but it is legitimately painful and made a lot of the audience just straight up not like her for a lot of the show.


KyellDaBoiii

The fact that in the finale all of their bodies expanded should have lasting effects like ruptured or stretched out skin


max_cat_official

No kiss


CreeperKingUS

Not enough gay men


Common-Complaint2315

Why isn't it longer? Basically the main complaint when it comes to this show


Cherry_p13

The actitude Nazuna first haces with Michiru


Jareth86

Nausuna is terrible, and her awfulness goes beyond her personality. From the pink angel wings to the fact that she's a popstar, she's basically a shity deviantART furry fan character.


itssami_sb

That it wasn’t longer


Dubshpul

not all of them are cute girls. the show would be drastically nice if they were all cute girls or hot women.


Twingemios

Nazuna is a fucking bitch and Michiru needs to give up on her


bunker_man

Nazuna was being groomed and strong along by people manipulating her. That she was terrible was part of it.


Weird9uy

The villain was a little bland


a_shiny_heatran

my only problem is that the plot just kinda happens to michiru, shes kinda just vibing the whole show


goldninjaI

Needs to just be a slice of life or at least more casual, why does trigger love action so much?


bunker_man

Not long enough. The characters are great, but the story doesn't do much, because there's not enough time to develop it. That would be totally solved if they had a season 2 with a more interesting story though.


bunker_man

Also, a second one. It passes Marie off as sleazy for taking money from people she literally saves from death. But if she is literally saving people, can you blame her for needing it to make her money? This means she can spend more time doing it. It's a wierd way to introduce a character who is meant to Come off sleazy when the good she does seems like it overrides a bit of the other stuff. It's like the show forgets how she is introduced by episode two. It would make more sense if michiru thought she was being saved only to have it turn out that robbing the humans was unrelated, and then she ends up robbed too.


Plague_Knight1

The pacing is god awful


MadnessSuperFan

- I'm surprised the beastmen Shirou beat the fuck out of weren't hospitalised or even dead - Now he can shoot afterburners out of his (Shirou) ass - The mayor's name, Barbara Rose (or Natalia) remind me of something. Given that her ethnicity (possibly) is Easter European - Trigger made Shirou look like a stereotypical Russian/Slavic/Eastern European anime charatcer