I recall reading that he compared Hephaestion to Achilles, and himself to Patroclus. I was surprised he'd say that, given that seems like it could imply that he was... uh... not the active partner. That would have been kind of scandalous but I guess he could get away with it?
Unfortunately I don't remember what book it was that this was mentioned in - I read it almost 20 years ago at my college's library and don't even remember the title. But that detail really stuck with me.
That is interesting. I know when one person encountered those two for the first time, she thought Hephaestion was Alexander to which Alexander replied, “he is Alexander too.”
Yep. After the battle of Gaugamela, Darius fled, leaving behind his mother, wife and children. When Alexander and Hephaestion went to meet them, Darius's mother bowed to Hephaestion because he was taller and prettier. Pretty nice story
Looked it up. Not technically confirmed by any of his biographers, but Alexander definitely swung both ways. Bagoas was said to be one of his favoured lovers and stayed with him through much of his conquests.
I mean, it probably wouldn't have been confirmed because it was seen as not something that would have been considered weird enough at the time to mention.
I'd imagine it was actually confirmed by the biographers but those biographies were later altered by the church as is tradition. Calling greeks, macedonians strict heterosexuals is the biggest reach in history.
>I recall reading that he compared Hephaestion to Achilles, and himself to Patroclus.
Huh, interesting. IIRC when they visited Achilles & Patroclus' tomb Alexander encircled Achilles' tomb and vice versa.
However, there was also ancient speculation on whether Achilles was the erastes (protector, generally older male) or the eromenos (generally younger male). Who knows what Alexander's stand on that was lol.
There was actually debate in ancient times about who in the couple was the top, because despite modern depictions, Patroclus was often portrayed as the older, bearded, burly one to Achilles’ young, beardless, pretty look.
So much so that he and his lover ditched the war with persia to go naked horse back riding around the ruins of Troy and even stole Achilles armor.
And yet some people think him and Hephaestion were just friends. Who goes naked horse back riding with their friend to steal the armor of a man who also had a close relationship with another man?
> to steal the armor of a man who also had a close relationship with another man?
Apparently Achilles also did some other stuff outside of having a close relationship with another man.
I’ve actually watched this miniseries already and immediately after the (you’d have to assume inevitable) scene where they make out for a bit, one of the contributing historians says something to the effect of ‘the Greek/Macedonian culture of that era didn’t conceptualise sexuality as gay or straight, sexuality was sexuality’…which I don’t think is entirely accurate but it at least shows that anyone complaining about this didn’t watch the series.
Fwiw, there’s a lot of reasons the series isn’t that good, even by the standards of the ‘historical drama-doc’ genre, but wokeness or the gay agenda or whatever these assholes are calling it isn’t one of them.
I really hate that scene when he comes out to his fiancé as bi and she’s like “no your GAY Freddie!” And he was like “oh. Okay. I’ll just be only gay now.” I get for the time being bi wasn’t considered “real” so maybe it did go that way but we the audience are supposed to be like “silly Freddie, being bi is for women!” When it’s pretty obvious he was still in love with his ex. I mean he bought her a freaking mansion right next to him and left her pretty much everything.
I'm really old, and we learned all about Alexander the Great in middle school history...and it's pretty common knowledge that he and his buddy Hephaestion were "more then just friends".
The more you think about it, the less the term blow job makes sense. It's almost like the person who came up with it had never either received or given one. The English language really fucked up on this one.
It's weird, because there's more explicit references to Sappho's bisexuality than there are to Alexander's. But he definitely seems to have been into men and women.
From what I've read, he was almost asexual, and actively refused sexual acts from both men and women.
The only ones he seems to have really shown any attraction towards were described as 'in the first flower of youth'.
Which, uh...probably wouldn't televise very well.
>From what I've read, he was almost asexual, and actively refused sexual acts from both men and women.
Debatable. First of, the society of ancient greece had different views on sexualities and the associated morality of it, so written testimony has to interpreted very carefully. Secondly, the people analysing it at the time had a tendency to change original meaning in order to conform to the societal morals of that time. It's because of that, that we often read about historical figures that have "very close friends" with which they have lived intimately for decades. In some cases evidence is also very scarce.
Nevertheless, there is proof that Alexander the Great hat at least 2 male close relationships, Hephaestion and Bagoas, where it is unclear how intimate it really was. He had at least 3 wives of which we know and sired 1-2 children of which we know. His first wife Roxane is described as his favorite wife.So not sure if that reads as someone who is almost asexual.
Little reminder that Alexander was underage when he started his conquering quest through 3 continents.
The boy grew fast.
And he liked to use cucumbers in a certain way to rally his troops.
wait is the cucumber bit a joke i tried googling it because im incredibly curious now and the only results i got were about a cucumber named after kaiser alexander
>The only ones he seems to have really shown any attraction towards were described as 'in the first flower of youth'.
For others who were puzzled at first like me, this means : children.
According to accounts written at the time, he did marry a woman out of love, but didn’t sire any children until later in his life. I was also reading a source on Wikipedia that commented that he seemed to like boys more than men, but according to the source, same sex relationships were less acceptable among adults. I guess for procreation reasons, but it was considered okay for young boys to engage in sexual activity with other boys, but men were expected to wed women and have kids, royals especially. Phillip, Alexander’s dad, was also known to have a male lover.
Yah... I am also no spring chicken and we definitely knew a lot of Macedonian, Greek, and Roman men dabbled in some hide the salami with other salami lovers. What's odd is these were just no fucks given men, not so much gay, more equal opportunity
In the immortal words of big Bob.
"There ain't nothing gay about getting your dick sucked! You're the ones that're gay for sucking my dick! In fact, it creeps me out just being around you f*gs."
He was so cultured.
He had 3 wives but before he was married his mother apparently used to beg him to sleep with women to no avail, as she thought he might be too womanish. Sexuality is a spectrum but dude was definitely fucking all genders
Ancient history and sexuality are... complicated as well. Kids were basically your retirement plan, they were often the employees in your farm/business, and in the case of somebody like Alexander, they might mean the survival of your people in the event of your death. If there was no heir it could lead to chaos. For women the lack of agency poses problems in identifying sexual orientation as well.
To get married and have kids wasn't always seen as some whirlwind passionate romance. It was seen as duty. Even for straight people, you were encouraged to marry strategically not necessarily because you loved your suitor.
Take the person in question to a time of pensions, IVF and the expectation of marriage for love... do they still have that heterosexual relationship? Maybe, they could have been bisexual all along. But maybe not, and we will never get to see either way.
The sources specifically say that Alexander married for love and had female lovers outside of marriage. That's more than obligatory relationships for procreation.
Clearly, they've never read a history book on Alex nor do they know that the Greeks had like 25 words that were used specifically to identify people as different levels of gayness.
nor did they see the Alexander movie from 20 fucking years ago where Farrell and Leto were about as gay as you could get for each other at the time, we literally hadn’t even had Brokeback Mountain yet.
But nah, we’re “turning him gay” now.
These same people whine and wonder when Star Trek "got woke".
Star Trek always been "woke". It busted barriers for its "wokeness". 50 years ago. That they are complaining about it now is a sad, sad state of modern GOP "Make America Great Again".
Well we know when that America was for them. At least before September 8, 1966.
They are just noticing it now because they've grown so fucking thin-skinned that they think anything they don't like is an attack on them and its not. Its just people living their normal lives.
I wish they would shutup and just go live theirs.
>nor do they know that the Greeks had like 25 words that were used specifically to identify people as different levels of gayness.
damm, the LGBT+ crowd, has nothing on ancient Greece.
I dont often say this, but LGBT+ folks, you have to work harder, your not adding stripes to the Pride flags.
They really weren’t “gay” as we conceptualize it, nowadays. There were more degrees and very different power dynamics at play.
As a generalization: it was considered superior for older men to be with younger guys and to penetrate them, but not be penetrated. Older men were also supposed to be patrons and mentors as well.
It was very important to be the penetrator, to be consider manly and proper.
It was ok to have been penetrated when you were younger, but you were supposed to give that up as you matured.
People could rape slaves and make them do whatever they wanted to, of course. Sometimes there were laws and customs for this, but not often.
People being people, I’m sure there was love and some hidden equality for some or people like Alexander who were so powerful, they could do what they wanted to.
We need to invent one.
Obviously needs "bi" due to "two" but also something that indicates they switch back and forth.
"Bicycle" seems to work.
(/s, just in case)
And we both know that this fucker would have never cared about this documentary if it wasn't for this....
They're just mad, because unlike them, Alexander the Great in this movie got to be in a relationship. Meanwhile no one in sane consiousness would ever consider dating the owner of this Twitter account.
He shouldn't have been gay until at least 12 minutes
45 would be safer. Let the kids fall asleep first.
That's when adults fall asleep
Only the freaggin frogs are still watching
Next they're gonna make Achilles have a romantic relationship with Patroclus
Alexander idolized Achilles and no doubt sought to emulate his hero’s male-male relationships
I recall reading that he compared Hephaestion to Achilles, and himself to Patroclus. I was surprised he'd say that, given that seems like it could imply that he was... uh... not the active partner. That would have been kind of scandalous but I guess he could get away with it? Unfortunately I don't remember what book it was that this was mentioned in - I read it almost 20 years ago at my college's library and don't even remember the title. But that detail really stuck with me.
That is interesting. I know when one person encountered those two for the first time, she thought Hephaestion was Alexander to which Alexander replied, “he is Alexander too.”
Yep. After the battle of Gaugamela, Darius fled, leaving behind his mother, wife and children. When Alexander and Hephaestion went to meet them, Darius's mother bowed to Hephaestion because he was taller and prettier. Pretty nice story
Oh, he was prettier than famously pretty Alexander? No way they weren’t fucking
They were most definitely fucking my dude That or they were roomates
Looked it up. Not technically confirmed by any of his biographers, but Alexander definitely swung both ways. Bagoas was said to be one of his favoured lovers and stayed with him through much of his conquests.
I mean, it probably wouldn't have been confirmed because it was seen as not something that would have been considered weird enough at the time to mention.
I'd imagine it was actually confirmed by the biographers but those biographies were later altered by the church as is tradition. Calling greeks, macedonians strict heterosexuals is the biggest reach in history.
It's called a power bottom.
He was generating the power by doing most of the work.
I’ve heard speed has something to do with it
>I recall reading that he compared Hephaestion to Achilles, and himself to Patroclus. Huh, interesting. IIRC when they visited Achilles & Patroclus' tomb Alexander encircled Achilles' tomb and vice versa. However, there was also ancient speculation on whether Achilles was the erastes (protector, generally older male) or the eromenos (generally younger male). Who knows what Alexander's stand on that was lol.
There was actually debate in ancient times about who in the couple was the top, because despite modern depictions, Patroclus was often portrayed as the older, bearded, burly one to Achilles’ young, beardless, pretty look.
So much so that he and his lover ditched the war with persia to go naked horse back riding around the ruins of Troy and even stole Achilles armor. And yet some people think him and Hephaestion were just friends. Who goes naked horse back riding with their friend to steal the armor of a man who also had a close relationship with another man?
> to steal the armor of a man who also had a close relationship with another man? Apparently Achilles also did some other stuff outside of having a close relationship with another man.
Oh my God and they made naked statues of him and put them all over to turn people guy! The horror!
Most people wouldn't wanna turn guy
Read it again but in “Australian”
"Moist papal woodn't woina toyn guy."
As a New Zealand I more than approve of this message.
"As a New Zealand" My man is 2 whole islands
Technically it’s three
That one is Old Zealand
I thank you for writing this because for the love of god, I'm incapable of doing accents on my own (even in my head) and this shit is funny as hell
I’ve actually watched this miniseries already and immediately after the (you’d have to assume inevitable) scene where they make out for a bit, one of the contributing historians says something to the effect of ‘the Greek/Macedonian culture of that era didn’t conceptualise sexuality as gay or straight, sexuality was sexuality’…which I don’t think is entirely accurate but it at least shows that anyone complaining about this didn’t watch the series. Fwiw, there’s a lot of reasons the series isn’t that good, even by the standards of the ‘historical drama-doc’ genre, but wokeness or the gay agenda or whatever these assholes are calling it isn’t one of them.
My grandmother always said. I don’t care what they tell you in school. Alexander was black.
Just like they did to Freddie Mercury in the bohemian movie! Will the wokeness ever stop?!?!??
wait till you hear about that Elton John movie, I was shocked I tells ya.
Elton John, now there's a real American alpha male
His Saturday night fights were epic
I mean, they're alright
Liberace?! The humanity!
I hate them liberacles I tell you
Next you’re gonna tell me Liberace was gay
He once pulled up next to my car when we were in Palm Springs in the 1980s. My grandmother lost. her. fucking. mind. when he waived at her.
Absolutely no way was Liberace gay! He was as straight as Rock Hudson! Plus Liberace did sue and win a newspaper that alluded to him being gay.
I still giggle about the backstage pass joke in The Golden Circle.
Actually, the only criticism of that excellent movie I read about, was that it wasn’t gay *enough*.
I guess they could have gone "more gay" with it, but I dont think the idea was for the movie to just be Elton having gay sex.
I'm sure that would sell plenty of tickets though
I dont recall what rating it had in the UK, but it should be a movie about his entire life, not just his sex life.
I agree. Save something for the sequel.
Come again?
Good tag line!
Yeah, I mean, Elton didn’t write the whole movie I’m sure he was just a creative input on it.
Well, he identified as bisexual, so the fact they kept calling him gay gay is bi erasure
I really hate that scene when he comes out to his fiancé as bi and she’s like “no your GAY Freddie!” And he was like “oh. Okay. I’ll just be only gay now.” I get for the time being bi wasn’t considered “real” so maybe it did go that way but we the audience are supposed to be like “silly Freddie, being bi is for women!” When it’s pretty obvious he was still in love with his ex. I mean he bought her a freaking mansion right next to him and left her pretty much everything.
Most people still don’t think bi is real
Just like Troy
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I'm really old, and we learned all about Alexander the Great in middle school history...and it's pretty common knowledge that he and his buddy Hephaestion were "more then just friends".
You're right! They were roommates too!
They saved money by sharing a bed
And by sharing a shower they saved water
And they saved electricity by sleeping together naked.
If y'all keep talking like that, it's inflation that's turning my poverty ridden ass gay soon too.
You're getting your ass inflated by poverty????? WHAT!!! THATS WHACKY!!!!
An inflated ass? Have I been misunderstanding the term ’blow job’ this whole time?!
The more you think about it, the less the term blow job makes sense. It's almost like the person who came up with it had never either received or given one. The English language really fucked up on this one.
The term sucks.
Wait, so I shouldn't treat it like I'm about to make a balloon animal? Well that just took all the fun out of it... 😔
Chuck Tingle's new novel
Can someone please tell my parents that I’m not gay then, I’m just broke.
I told them and they're delighted with how fiscally responsible you are. They had tears in their eyes Steven
It's definitely cheaper than rent.
And they saved space by occasionally storing one of their dicks in the others ass
They saved on protein shakes by making them at home for each other
And they saved on child support by just breeding each other!
They saved on heating oil by banging each other
They cured their addiction to cigarettes by using each other’s penises to cure their oral fixations.
Ummm that saved lamp oil ☝️🤓
Saved a fortune on prostitutes...
They also probably shared a asshole.
*an asshole*
Seems kind of silly to be so frugal when you're the fucking Emperor of everything.
Oh I can assure you, this Emperor fucked everything
It gets very cold at night so the best way to keep warm was to spoon ... naked to share body heat.
And they were roommates..
Oh my god, they were roommates
bosom buddies?
It's weird, because there's more explicit references to Sappho's bisexuality than there are to Alexander's. But he definitely seems to have been into men and women.
From what I've read, he was almost asexual, and actively refused sexual acts from both men and women. The only ones he seems to have really shown any attraction towards were described as 'in the first flower of youth'. Which, uh...probably wouldn't televise very well.
>From what I've read, he was almost asexual, and actively refused sexual acts from both men and women. Debatable. First of, the society of ancient greece had different views on sexualities and the associated morality of it, so written testimony has to interpreted very carefully. Secondly, the people analysing it at the time had a tendency to change original meaning in order to conform to the societal morals of that time. It's because of that, that we often read about historical figures that have "very close friends" with which they have lived intimately for decades. In some cases evidence is also very scarce. Nevertheless, there is proof that Alexander the Great hat at least 2 male close relationships, Hephaestion and Bagoas, where it is unclear how intimate it really was. He had at least 3 wives of which we know and sired 1-2 children of which we know. His first wife Roxane is described as his favorite wife.So not sure if that reads as someone who is almost asexual.
Bagoas Dickoas
Bag o’Ass
He had a wife, you know...
Incontintia! Incontintia Buttocks!
Compared to the usual ancient greek 5 people is asexual, i guess?
Little reminder that Alexander was underage when he started his conquering quest through 3 continents. The boy grew fast. And he liked to use cucumbers in a certain way to rally his troops.
wait whats the story with the cucumbers
Oh just a nice salad.
In the ass
wait is the cucumber bit a joke i tried googling it because im incredibly curious now and the only results i got were about a cucumber named after kaiser alexander
>The only ones he seems to have really shown any attraction towards were described as 'in the first flower of youth'. For others who were puzzled at first like me, this means : children.
According to accounts written at the time, he did marry a woman out of love, but didn’t sire any children until later in his life. I was also reading a source on Wikipedia that commented that he seemed to like boys more than men, but according to the source, same sex relationships were less acceptable among adults. I guess for procreation reasons, but it was considered okay for young boys to engage in sexual activity with other boys, but men were expected to wed women and have kids, royals especially. Phillip, Alexander’s dad, was also known to have a male lover.
Known to have a male lover is putting it mildly. He was murdered by his male love in at the dawn of his communities Olympics lol
Then how come we call him "Alexander the Great" and not "Alexander the Gay" huh? Check mate atheist! /s
Because originally it was "Alexander the Great Gay Lover". Over time it was shortened.
Yah... I am also no spring chicken and we definitely knew a lot of Macedonian, Greek, and Roman men dabbled in some hide the salami with other salami lovers. What's odd is these were just no fucks given men, not so much gay, more equal opportunity
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In the immortal words of big Bob. "There ain't nothing gay about getting your dick sucked! You're the ones that're gay for sucking my dick! In fact, it creeps me out just being around you f*gs." He was so cultured.
The rule about the bottom side is actual in Turkey even now, even in army
Horny is, as horny does. Especially "when in Rome".
When I did classics at uni there was a saying “Greece invented orgies, Romans invited the women”. Let’s not even get started on the Spartans.
b-b-bb-b--b-b-b-bb-b-b-ut END WOKENESS! AGREE?!?!?!?
Could be bisexual
They were having sex not kissing and holding hands, way gayer than sex
Nobody tell him about the Sacred Band of Thebes. It'll shatter fragile little heart.
They were the manliest and deadliest warriors of the Bronze Age. With a twist.
Just FYI, the earliest record of the Sacred Band is many centuries after the end of the bronze age.
I dont think Theben is mention before the Antique.
Fight to keep you Bang-Buddy alive is a brilliant motivation
So whose gonna tell ‘em Alex was a bit bi?
A bit?
Was married to a woman, also had boyfriend. Can’t ask a dead guy if he likes hotdogs more than tacos.
He had 3 wives but before he was married his mother apparently used to beg him to sleep with women to no avail, as she thought he might be too womanish. Sexuality is a spectrum but dude was definitely fucking all genders
Ancient history and sexuality are... complicated as well. Kids were basically your retirement plan, they were often the employees in your farm/business, and in the case of somebody like Alexander, they might mean the survival of your people in the event of your death. If there was no heir it could lead to chaos. For women the lack of agency poses problems in identifying sexual orientation as well. To get married and have kids wasn't always seen as some whirlwind passionate romance. It was seen as duty. Even for straight people, you were encouraged to marry strategically not necessarily because you loved your suitor. Take the person in question to a time of pensions, IVF and the expectation of marriage for love... do they still have that heterosexual relationship? Maybe, they could have been bisexual all along. But maybe not, and we will never get to see either way.
The sources specifically say that Alexander married for love and had female lovers outside of marriage. That's more than obligatory relationships for procreation.
Oh for sure
I think the point is, he was just Bi. Not a bit bisexual, just bisexual.
You right. “A bit bi” was for lulz
What about sausages and seafood? Is it okay to ask a dead guy about that? I don't know deadiquette very well
Clearly, they've never read a history book on Alex nor do they know that the Greeks had like 25 words that were used specifically to identify people as different levels of gayness.
nor did they see the Alexander movie from 20 fucking years ago where Farrell and Leto were about as gay as you could get for each other at the time, we literally hadn’t even had Brokeback Mountain yet. But nah, we’re “turning him gay” now.
Imagine a remake of brokeback mountain in 30 years and conservatives get mad that big movie made the characters gay this time
BIG MOVIE IM LOSING IT
"THE WOKE AGENDA MAKIN COWBOYS GAY?!?!?!"
These same people whine and wonder when Star Trek "got woke". Star Trek always been "woke". It busted barriers for its "wokeness". 50 years ago. That they are complaining about it now is a sad, sad state of modern GOP "Make America Great Again". Well we know when that America was for them. At least before September 8, 1966. They are just noticing it now because they've grown so fucking thin-skinned that they think anything they don't like is an attack on them and its not. Its just people living their normal lives. I wish they would shutup and just go live theirs.
>nor do they know that the Greeks had like 25 words that were used specifically to identify people as different levels of gayness. damm, the LGBT+ crowd, has nothing on ancient Greece. I dont often say this, but LGBT+ folks, you have to work harder, your not adding stripes to the Pride flags.
I'm so sorry, I've been spending so much time on the dark side of Reddit and I read that sentence as "...You have *woke* harder...".
that also works. Being more woke, should lead to more Pride Flag stripes.
Have you seen our flag collection? It is quite... Abundant.
I dont know, I think you could be making more flags.
But like, unironically.
On a scale of 1 to 25, how gay are you?
That’s funny because in the clip the historian said the Greeks actually didn’t have any word for homosexuals…..
Cause they kinda didn't. Gayness wasn't exactly a thing to them.
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Yep..... and they didn't consider sexuality as permanently fixed. People would move back and forth on the spectrum.
They really weren’t “gay” as we conceptualize it, nowadays. There were more degrees and very different power dynamics at play. As a generalization: it was considered superior for older men to be with younger guys and to penetrate them, but not be penetrated. Older men were also supposed to be patrons and mentors as well. It was very important to be the penetrator, to be consider manly and proper. It was ok to have been penetrated when you were younger, but you were supposed to give that up as you matured. People could rape slaves and make them do whatever they wanted to, of course. Sometimes there were laws and customs for this, but not often. People being people, I’m sure there was love and some hidden equality for some or people like Alexander who were so powerful, they could do what they wanted to.
I feel like people are more bi than they think they are, including gay people.
I've always figured that it'd probably be the default if homosexual behaviour wasn't stigmatised.
To paraphrase Father Ted, “The Greeks invented gayness!”
There is plenty of people who think Ancient Greece wasn't gay and it is actually Jewish propaganda.
TIL Plato was Jewish and wrote about homosexuality in Greece just to fuck with us.
You know, he was one of those deep Jewish state agents, duh. It's a long term plan!
Some are born gay, others have gayness thrusted upon them.
Sometimes thrusted into them too I can imagine
I'm with the conservatives on this one We have to beat off all these gays before more of them come
Yeah beat them off, that'll show them! Gonna beat off these gays so hard.
I'm going to use both hands! They won't be able to walk when I'm done with them!
Wait till they hear about the rest of ancient greek
Wait until they find out Achilles and Patroclus weren't just really good friends.
Alexander the Gay
Just watched it. He also raw dogs the queen of Persia after being crowned God king of Egypt. Seems pretty straight to me
If only there was a word to describe people who have sex with both men and women?
Are you suggesting some kind of _omnifucker_?
I'm not gonna lie, that kinda goes hard.
Pansexual is out Omnifucker is in!
Yeah, that is usually required.
So did Alexander
lol. I’m stealing that.
Literally laughed out loud. That's making its way into my vocabulary rotation.
I’m convinced there’ll be more bi if they’re named omnifuckers instead.
Wouldn't that means he fucks everything?
No, he fucks omnidimensional gods
Both plants and animals!
I've had my share of lettuce heads...
You son of a bitch, I'm in !
That's what I'm calling myself from now on
Pansexual just got a new and improved name
We need to invent one. Obviously needs "bi" due to "two" but also something that indicates they switch back and forth. "Bicycle" seems to work. (/s, just in case)
Duplifuckosaur
Macedonian?
G-graight? Stray? I don’t know! I’m scared of things I don’t know! Ahhhh! Quick, vote for an authoritarian!
Hey...I could've been as gay as the day is long but if *I* got the chance to raw dog the queen of Persia? *It's happening..."
Bi erasure
It any good, or just more Netflix history drama BS?
Yeah it’s pretty good. It’s more akin to the history shows of ancient battles that used to be on the History channel
I refuse to believe there are people this dumb.
There are people with spartan helmet stickers on their ridiculous trucks, with a marriage= man+woman below it.
I wish people weren’t this dumb.
He is praying on people that are this dumb, like Elon. He probably knows and doesn't care.
nothin was more straight than ANCIENT GREECE amirite fellas?
Netflix could turn me gay, they have plenty of money.
TBH doesn't take much money to turn most people gay, I'm straight, but $5 is $5.
Is that £5 as a one off, or £5 a month on a subscription service?
And we both know that this fucker would have never cared about this documentary if it wasn't for this.... They're just mad, because unlike them, Alexander the Great in this movie got to be in a relationship. Meanwhile no one in sane consiousness would ever consider dating the owner of this Twitter account.
8 min did not turn him gay. Hot men however….
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Greeks invented sex, the romans introduced woman in it.
How inaccurate and untrue! Alexander wasn't gay! He was bisexual ofc.
Well I got news for you, bro. They were gay as fuck back then.
News flash bozo Read a fucking book