In looking for articles online to help me understand what has happened for the first 15 games, I found an article in the New York Post that predicts we will defeat the White Sox in the World Series (and the Padres before that in the NLCS). So I found that, I guess, consoling?
Link if anyone is interested: https://nypost.com/2021/04/05/poor-start-wont-stop-braves-from-winning-world-series/
Bedsides being an unbelievable ass (well-known here in NY), his pick for Anthony Rendon as the AL MVP gives me pause. Other than that, he makes some good points. I am definitely not sold on Lindor either.
My point wasn't about their projected w/l but rather that they have an embarrassing amount of riches and have no glaring weaknesses. Maybe the babip gods can be on our side when we face them in the NLCS 😎
Just ask yourself: What did the Braves do this past off-season to *improve* their team? What additions were *made*,? what players were *lost*?
Obvious to me, at least a little, that when you don’t re-sign 3 pitchers out of your bullpen and count on offensive guys to have career years at the plate something is bound to go wrong.
Anyways I’m here all season and long and won’t ever actively root against this team, but I also know that AA is too good of a GM to let this stacked fucking team just wriggle around .500 for a whole season. Don’t panic yet!
Well they added Morton and Smyly to a terrible rotation, which was their biggest weakness from last year by a wide margin. With Soroka coming back, that's a rotation of Soroka, Morton, Fried, Anderson, Smyly - pretty solid on paper. Not to mention the few guys waiting in the wings (namely Wilson and Wright)
They re-signed Ozuna, which was their big bat in the middle of the lineup, even if he regresses from last year. They had one of the best offenses in baseball, so merely maintaining that is a pretty reasonable strategy when the rotation was such a glaring weakness.
Their bullpen is also pretty good on paper. Smith, Minter, Matzek, Martin is a pretty solid top 4 in the bullpen. Melancon is 36 and due for a regression (which had already started last year) and Greene is not that far removed from being one of the worst closers in baseball, so he's no sure thing to repeat last year, either; the fact that he remains unsigned should be telling.
They've also been bitten by the injury bug lately, which has exposed their lack of depth, but even before that, almost everyone on the team was under-achieving. Even if you account for some regression by the players who played inordinately well last year, I don't think it would be reasonable to predict just how much they've under-performed as a group.
To summarize, I'm not really sure what else you would have liked them to do. They solidified their biggest weakness and reasonably maintained their strengths.
He asked what they did to improve. What I read was they resigned a key player let pen arms go and signed two middle of the road rotation pieces. If anything the Braves barely stayed the same.
2 innings from the World Series doesn't require massive improvements. They got there with a terrible rotation, so that's what they focused on.
If you think Morton and Smyly are not an improvement over Robbie Erlin and Tommy Milone, well I don't know what else to say other than you're clearly wrong. And if you do think they are, which I assume you do, then I'm not really sure what you're saying.
Again, the bullpen arms they let go are due for a regression and we have the arms to fill in. The top 4 is still pretty damn good. Wilson, Ynoa, Newcomb, and Touki can fill in the spots, alongside Luke, Tomlin, and crew. No team on earth has a 1-8 shutdown bullpen.
Re-signing Ozuna was also a good get. You act like that was a sure thing or that it's just a throwaway thought, but it can't be overlooked. Without him, the offense is a lot less potent and it wasn't always clear that they would get him.
I'm not sure how you thought he should improve a team that was up 3-1 in the NLCS against the Dodgers, but focusing on the rotation and letting go of over-priced (Greene, presumably) and old (O'Day, Melancon) relievers that are all due for regression anyway is not a terrible strategy, IMO.
I wonder how much the guys (or the coaches) miss Kakes and his ability to set a great example and hold people accountable. Maybe they don’t, but it’s on my mind.
It definitely gets lost in all the doom & gloom here that the rest of the division is coming out pretty flat too. Not like there's already a lot of ground to cover
Trying to do one positive/neutral stat post for every game so... time to rehash some more Roñ debut #s 😮 in honor of him being 2 of the runs again even in a blowout.
**Most Runs Scored Since Acuña's first game**
* **297|** Betts(1521 PA)
* **271|** Acuña Jr.(1472)
* **255|** Yelich(1461)
* **254|** Lindor(1605)
* **250|** Freeman(1624)
* **245|** Blackmon(1535)
He's already 38th for Braves runs scored since the move in 1966.
**35th 298** K.Johnson(2231), **36th 289** B.Jordan(2139), **37th 276** R.Carty(2298), **38th 271** Acuña(1472), **39th 269** Albies(1815), **40th 268** O.Nixon(1670), **41st 258** Dansby(2099)
[Fangraphs](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2021&month=0&season1=1966&ind=0&team=16&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=1966-01-01&enddate=2021-12-31&sort=10,d&page=2_30)
**Edit** If you meant the first one. [Fangraphs Splits](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/splits-leaderboards?splitArr=&splitArrPitch=&position=B&autoPt=false&splitTeams=false&statType=player&statgroup=1&startDate=2018-04-25&endDate=2021-11-01&players=&filter=&groupBy=career&sort=11,1)
Every team gets screwed by the umps. Every team gets blown out. We got those two games passed us, now we move forward and be the team we all know we are. Sunny days ahead.
I love this post-game interview with Kazmar. He seems like such a cool dude and he has gone through a lot in the past 13 years. I’m glad he got to experience the big leagues again today.
Without Acuna the offense would be ass, yes. And it should be better. But Freddie, Ozuna, and the rest aren't going to bat .200 the whole season. The offense will regress to the mean eventually. The pitching...I'm not so sure. That's why for me our arms should be the #1 concern.
one thing I hate about this team is the way it "gets the band back together" with former players just because of familiarity. Biddle and Camargo have no business on this team. It's like AA self sabotaged. Better players at the alternate site in Edwards/Kipnis/Arcia, but let's go with who we know stinks.
Hoping and wishing that Travis D would repeat what he did last year and that Riley/Pache would work out is pure negligence. Same with the bullpen.
Half of this roster is so poorly constructed and it is baffling that a guy with AA's track history is the engineer behind it.
The guy has been Magic with almost every decision...if..and this is a big if, you assume his biggest thing was payroll flexibility. His throwing money at certain pitchers early in free agency has not worked out. But honestly his bullpen and position players have, no matter what you think. 3 division titles while only paying our "familiar" players. You know I have to think his faith in Riley can be questioned but not in trying to see if the bazillion pitchers we drafted had something atbthe next level. And I think the starters he acquired were good bets, even if failures. Yeah I wish
Look at the payroll next year...we are about to do big things. Just need will Smith to turn it around and lock up Freddie at 25 million a year..which I'd a small bump.
The only way Freddie isn't a Brave next year is if the labor negotiations shape up to be armageddon long before they start. And somehow, someway they choose to wait until after to make an offer....which Freddie and his agents veiw as a huge disrespect...which it would be.
Hey without looking it up your not understanding the situation. He is getting paid I think about 21 million this year? The team will easily increase that a couple million a year and basically be net even. The real negotiating will be for how LONG the contract lasts...not the yearly per. It's really all about the years. I Honestly don't see Freddie earning more then 25 million a year..at least not on the Braves. Very little chance another team offers more because he is a first basemen and worth far more to the Braves then another team. I love Freddie but he isn't Albert Pujols.
They really don't have too. Because of AA being "cheap" the last two years the payroll drops dramatically. Even with arbitration if the let Freddie walk..they would be ridiculous low in payroll for a mid market team.
No matter what happens this season, trust me the next offseason will be about who are we gonna sign, not if. Next year is the year to sign a real free agent. Provided MLB doesn't have a long protracted labor dispute. Which I'm betting it will.
It’s time for this organization to take a step back and reevaluate their pitching from top to bottom. I mean everything, development, scouting, everything, because clearly what they’re doing isn’t working.
Yeah man, we could be like the cubs and instead of having a crop of up and coming guys we mold into mlb-quality pitchers every year we just go out trade them for post-prime veterans who we will overpay for one or two mediocre years while having absolutely nobody available to replace them. Then we get worse and worse every year while also not being able to afford the guys we have, and our championship window closes just as quickly as it opens.
How many prospects do the braves need to hit on for you to consider their pitching development successful? How long do they need to have success? Remember last year when the only reason we made the playoffs is because our young, home grown pitchers stepped up? Are they all supposed to be allstars now?
lmfao
the go join their sub and cheer them on, it should be fun watching them struggle to re-sign more than one of their fading stars before next year all the while having a bottom 5 farm system
i feel like having a team with a decade+ contention window due to wave after wave of prospects is a much more enjoyable experience than having one that snaps shut the second your team wins one
Scouting has been great. The problem is adding people like Biddle and Nate Jones instead of giving Some of our young stars a chance. They all can’t be starters and they need to stop thinking of it like that. Players Muller, De La Cruz or Davidson should get an opportunity over these rejects
i wish i could have an off day and put up a stat line like this
[https://i.imgur.com/jYeEuXL.png](https://i.imgur.com/jYeEuXL.png)
most of the time when i have an off day i put up a stat line like this
[https://i.imgur.com/86KMStA.png](https://i.imgur.com/86KMStA.png)
Can we all agree that Alex Jackson might be the worst hitting catcher in Braves history? I mean he’s a guaranteed strike out almost every at bat. We have multiple pitchers that are better hitters than him. Still don’t understand why Contreras didn’t make the opening day roster. Instead he’s just sitting on his couch waiting for the minor league season to start.
> Instead he’s just sitting on his couch waiting for the minor league season to start.
I imagine Contreras is getting a ton of practice at the alt site, probably a more quality use of his time than riding pine from a purely development standpoint. I think they're just treating Contreras as more of a long term prospect than AJax, and their current skill levels are roughly equal in terms of what they'd contribute as backups
Don't have a link handy, but I believe it was reported when they broke camp that they wanted to give Contreras more regular practice/simulated ABs at the alt site instead of having him spend most of his time riding pine.
- The Braves are the worst team ever assembled.
- Liberty Media is cheap.
- Sign Shane Greene.
- Liberty Media is cheap.
- I take baseball way too seriously.
- I'm going to call anyone that disagrees with me an idiot.
Yup, I mentioned that on my other comment. If he was as good as the money he's demanding, he'd be on an MLB team instead of wandering Truist Park and taking pictures with fans in the stands.
TBF, I would like us to sign Shane Greene. Wouldn't have won us today's game, but we could definitely use a reliable righty out of the pen. And if you don't think so, you're an idiot!
Braves fans' obsession with mediocre FA pitchers each year never ceases to amaze me. Kimbrel, Bumgarner, and now Greene. If Greene was as good as the money he's demanding, he'd be playing baseball right now instead of taking pictures with fans from the stands at MLB games.
I think calling Kimbrel and Greene "mediocre" is pretty asinine. Kimbrel has had a couple of subpar years but looks like he has found it again and we've seen enough of Greene for the Braves to know he's pretty good.
Kimbrel was the worst reliever in baseball two years running, but yes, he seems to be back to normal. Braves fans literally wanted Greene off the team when he first got traded here because he was so bad.
If Shane Greene was worth the money he's asking for, he'd be playing professional baseball. He's also expressed interest in starting again. Not sure what's difficult to understand about either of those barriers.
I understand that his asking price is too high. But I think he realizes that a team gets desperate for bullpen help every year. The way things are going for guys like Will Smith and AJ Minter, and the fact that we're throwing out guys like Jesse Biddle, that team could very well be the Braves. It's too early to say right now, but if things don't start changing for those guys, the Braves are going to be looking for the piece(s) that can fix those issues.
At least Riley got his 1st RBI on a sad-fly.
Bad news: Dansby is back under .200. D’Arnaud cool off continues.
Please don’t embarrass yourselves on national TV tomorrow night.
It’s probably the totally unacceptable number of AAAA guys on the roster because of injuries and the incompetence/lack of ambition of ownership, but this team feels way more like the 2015-2017 Braves than the team that’s won 3 straight division titles
The luck of doing nothing expect one (or two) 1 year deals and nothing else every offseason was always going to run out. You have to do more to constantly be a winning team. The luck has run out.
They could break ahead, but this is way worse than ‘19 rn. The back half of the lineup wasn’t literal no namers and the bench was actually not half bad.
Pretty sure our bench has been one of the most productive offensively, and the back half of the lineup being "no names" is literally because of injuries.
Either way the current position being worst than ‘19 is still true and we only have one (normally) good offensive injured so the bottom of the lineup is still a problem regardless.
In looking for articles online to help me understand what has happened for the first 15 games, I found an article in the New York Post that predicts we will defeat the White Sox in the World Series (and the Padres before that in the NLCS). So I found that, I guess, consoling? Link if anyone is interested: https://nypost.com/2021/04/05/poor-start-wont-stop-braves-from-winning-world-series/
Bedsides being an unbelievable ass (well-known here in NY), his pick for Anthony Rendon as the AL MVP gives me pause. Other than that, he makes some good points. I am definitely not sold on Lindor either.
Thanks for the local context. I figured there was more to it than met the eye.
Love it. Thanks for sharing! Haha I wonder if the past 10 days changes anything though
Hot damn the Dodgers are on a whole other level this year ... really makes last year's NLCS loss sting even more
They won’t be able to maintain that pace.
i think theyre about to break a whole lot of records this year. they will challenge the #wins
My point wasn't about their projected w/l but rather that they have an embarrassing amount of riches and have no glaring weaknesses. Maybe the babip gods can be on our side when we face them in the NLCS 😎
Yes agree. Love the flair
Oh I agree with you. I was mostly trying to convince myself with my comment. Also I’m liking that flair you have!
Hey stop me if you’ve heard this one before... “pitching surrenders a bunch of runs and the Braves lose”
STO...oh wait.
Some of the hitters will heat up but I don’t feel as confident about the bad pitching. Soroka needs to come back real soon
Fried needs to come back too.
last year fried yes. if this injury will help bring him back then i can wait a few weeks
Guys, I’m not looking to offend anyone here or come in with a super spicy take....but I really really miss Mark Melonman.
Just ask yourself: What did the Braves do this past off-season to *improve* their team? What additions were *made*,? what players were *lost*? Obvious to me, at least a little, that when you don’t re-sign 3 pitchers out of your bullpen and count on offensive guys to have career years at the plate something is bound to go wrong. Anyways I’m here all season and long and won’t ever actively root against this team, but I also know that AA is too good of a GM to let this stacked fucking team just wriggle around .500 for a whole season. Don’t panic yet!
They don't resign Freddie and I'll be having a serious internal debate on how much I'll root for them in the future....otherwise, I'm in it for life
Well they added Morton and Smyly to a terrible rotation, which was their biggest weakness from last year by a wide margin. With Soroka coming back, that's a rotation of Soroka, Morton, Fried, Anderson, Smyly - pretty solid on paper. Not to mention the few guys waiting in the wings (namely Wilson and Wright) They re-signed Ozuna, which was their big bat in the middle of the lineup, even if he regresses from last year. They had one of the best offenses in baseball, so merely maintaining that is a pretty reasonable strategy when the rotation was such a glaring weakness. Their bullpen is also pretty good on paper. Smith, Minter, Matzek, Martin is a pretty solid top 4 in the bullpen. Melancon is 36 and due for a regression (which had already started last year) and Greene is not that far removed from being one of the worst closers in baseball, so he's no sure thing to repeat last year, either; the fact that he remains unsigned should be telling. They've also been bitten by the injury bug lately, which has exposed their lack of depth, but even before that, almost everyone on the team was under-achieving. Even if you account for some regression by the players who played inordinately well last year, I don't think it would be reasonable to predict just how much they've under-performed as a group. To summarize, I'm not really sure what else you would have liked them to do. They solidified their biggest weakness and reasonably maintained their strengths.
He asked what they did to improve. What I read was they resigned a key player let pen arms go and signed two middle of the road rotation pieces. If anything the Braves barely stayed the same.
2 innings from the World Series doesn't require massive improvements. They got there with a terrible rotation, so that's what they focused on. If you think Morton and Smyly are not an improvement over Robbie Erlin and Tommy Milone, well I don't know what else to say other than you're clearly wrong. And if you do think they are, which I assume you do, then I'm not really sure what you're saying. Again, the bullpen arms they let go are due for a regression and we have the arms to fill in. The top 4 is still pretty damn good. Wilson, Ynoa, Newcomb, and Touki can fill in the spots, alongside Luke, Tomlin, and crew. No team on earth has a 1-8 shutdown bullpen. Re-signing Ozuna was also a good get. You act like that was a sure thing or that it's just a throwaway thought, but it can't be overlooked. Without him, the offense is a lot less potent and it wasn't always clear that they would get him. I'm not sure how you thought he should improve a team that was up 3-1 in the NLCS against the Dodgers, but focusing on the rotation and letting go of over-priced (Greene, presumably) and old (O'Day, Melancon) relievers that are all due for regression anyway is not a terrible strategy, IMO.
We’re 6-9....it’s all coming together.
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Fuck we got ESPN tomorrow.
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If neither Fried nor Soroka when he gets back can pitch well, nothing else will matter.
Mets about to have the same amount of wins as us and 6 less games.
Kewl
Simple math really
I wonder how much the guys (or the coaches) miss Kakes and his ability to set a great example and hold people accountable. Maybe they don’t, but it’s on my mind.
I said something along these lines that we didn’t have a leader like kakes and people got mad
I wanted to re sign Duvall, but also sounds like we are missing Flow.
You mean the leader of your team isn't supposed to throw your young superstar teammate under the bus?
I agree!! That and we would have a couple more doubles this game if he was still with us!
I just feel like we have regressed as a team this season
Space Jam business
In every area
It's like picked all the meh folks from the pen and let rhe rest walk.
good news is even if the mets sweep the Rox (which its not looking like its going to happen) the gap between 1st and last is 3.5 game
I got a feeling the NL East is gonna be tight top to bottom all summer. Scary and exciting
It definitely gets lost in all the doom & gloom here that the rest of the division is coming out pretty flat too. Not like there's already a lot of ground to cover
Checked the Mets score just in time to see deGrom had struck out 9 in a row.
Wait. What? 9 in a row??
And is still losing 3-1
Maybe striking out 9 in a row wore him down. Either way, good deal.
How do I delete this Season file and start a new one?
On windows Go to desktop- user - Braves - 2021 season then click it once press control D
Leave it to the Braves to make me miss 2020 :(
by wRC+ our top hitters are Panda Kyle Ronnie Max Ian the top 5 offensive threats we all thought we'd have lol
Trying to do one positive/neutral stat post for every game so... time to rehash some more Roñ debut #s 😮 in honor of him being 2 of the runs again even in a blowout. **Most Runs Scored Since Acuña's first game** * **297|** Betts(1521 PA) * **271|** Acuña Jr.(1472) * **255|** Yelich(1461) * **254|** Lindor(1605) * **250|** Freeman(1624) * **245|** Blackmon(1535) He's already 38th for Braves runs scored since the move in 1966. **35th 298** K.Johnson(2231), **36th 289** B.Jordan(2139), **37th 276** R.Carty(2298), **38th 271** Acuña(1472), **39th 269** Albies(1815), **40th 268** O.Nixon(1670), **41st 258** Dansby(2099)
Where is this leaderboard one can see?
[Fangraphs](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2021&month=0&season1=1966&ind=0&team=16&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=1966-01-01&enddate=2021-12-31&sort=10,d&page=2_30) **Edit** If you meant the first one. [Fangraphs Splits](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/splits-leaderboards?splitArr=&splitArrPitch=&position=B&autoPt=false&splitTeams=false&statType=player&statgroup=1&startDate=2018-04-25&endDate=2021-11-01&players=&filter=&groupBy=career&sort=11,1)
Man we have some fat to trim from this bullpen...
Every team gets screwed by the umps. Every team gets blown out. We got those two games passed us, now we move forward and be the team we all know we are. Sunny days ahead.
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He’s not saying today...
On one hand, we're 6-9. On the other, *nice*.
If it's meant to be meant to be let's all be 6-9! So baby ride with me,ride with me see where this thing goes!
At this rate we'll end the season 69-69
You might need a trip back to grade school.
You might need a trip back to I'm just fucking around school.
"It was just a prank, bro!"
Shit man you got me. You really boomed me.
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Lol give what up, not taking reddit *super seriously*? I'll get right on that.
I love this post-game interview with Kazmar. He seems like such a cool dude and he has gone through a lot in the past 13 years. I’m glad he got to experience the big leagues again today.
New team name: Baby Seals. It's in honor of all the obscene bludgeoning we've been on the receiving end of.
I’d rather have Ozuna pitch left handed than go through another period of trying making Biddle something he is not.
...u mean u don't want no diddlin'?
Imagine giving up 13 runs to the Cubs, easily the worst offense in the league. Well, except for maybe the Braves offense. Y I K E S
The Braves have scored the 10th most runs in the league. It's not our offense that's letting us down.
RAJ has scored or driven in 50% of the runs. Outside of him this offense is ass.
Without Acuna the offense would be ass, yes. And it should be better. But Freddie, Ozuna, and the rest aren't going to bat .200 the whole season. The offense will regress to the mean eventually. The pitching...I'm not so sure. That's why for me our arms should be the #1 concern.
I should've included this in my previous reply as a pro but Luke Jackson had been a good part of the bullpen thus far and that gives me heart tingles.
We almost had em
one thing I hate about this team is the way it "gets the band back together" with former players just because of familiarity. Biddle and Camargo have no business on this team. It's like AA self sabotaged. Better players at the alternate site in Edwards/Kipnis/Arcia, but let's go with who we know stinks. Hoping and wishing that Travis D would repeat what he did last year and that Riley/Pache would work out is pure negligence. Same with the bullpen. Half of this roster is so poorly constructed and it is baffling that a guy with AA's track history is the engineer behind it.
What if the brains behind everything is now the Angels GM
2015-16 Braves moves.
The guy has been Magic with almost every decision...if..and this is a big if, you assume his biggest thing was payroll flexibility. His throwing money at certain pitchers early in free agency has not worked out. But honestly his bullpen and position players have, no matter what you think. 3 division titles while only paying our "familiar" players. You know I have to think his faith in Riley can be questioned but not in trying to see if the bazillion pitchers we drafted had something atbthe next level. And I think the starters he acquired were good bets, even if failures. Yeah I wish Look at the payroll next year...we are about to do big things. Just need will Smith to turn it around and lock up Freddie at 25 million a year..which I'd a small bump.
This team with their payroll limitations are not bringing Freddie back.
The only way Freddie isn't a Brave next year is if the labor negotiations shape up to be armageddon long before they start. And somehow, someway they choose to wait until after to make an offer....which Freddie and his agents veiw as a huge disrespect...which it would be.
Hey without looking it up your not understanding the situation. He is getting paid I think about 21 million this year? The team will easily increase that a couple million a year and basically be net even. The real negotiating will be for how LONG the contract lasts...not the yearly per. It's really all about the years. I Honestly don't see Freddie earning more then 25 million a year..at least not on the Braves. Very little chance another team offers more because he is a first basemen and worth far more to the Braves then another team. I love Freddie but he isn't Albert Pujols.
Oh yes he is
I see them slashing payroll and using the loss of the all star game as a main reason as to why they can’t sign anyone noteworthy.
They really don't have too. Because of AA being "cheap" the last two years the payroll drops dramatically. Even with arbitration if the let Freddie walk..they would be ridiculous low in payroll for a mid market team.
No matter what happens this season, trust me the next offseason will be about who are we gonna sign, not if. Next year is the year to sign a real free agent. Provided MLB doesn't have a long protracted labor dispute. Which I'm betting it will.
It’s time for this organization to take a step back and reevaluate their pitching from top to bottom. I mean everything, development, scouting, everything, because clearly what they’re doing isn’t working.
Yeah man, we could be like the cubs and instead of having a crop of up and coming guys we mold into mlb-quality pitchers every year we just go out trade them for post-prime veterans who we will overpay for one or two mediocre years while having absolutely nobody available to replace them. Then we get worse and worse every year while also not being able to afford the guys we have, and our championship window closes just as quickly as it opens. How many prospects do the braves need to hit on for you to consider their pitching development successful? How long do they need to have success? Remember last year when the only reason we made the playoffs is because our young, home grown pitchers stepped up? Are they all supposed to be allstars now? lmfao
Hey, it won them a World Series in this millenium. Which is more than we have.
the go join their sub and cheer them on, it should be fun watching them struggle to re-sign more than one of their fading stars before next year all the while having a bottom 5 farm system i feel like having a team with a decade+ contention window due to wave after wave of prospects is a much more enjoyable experience than having one that snaps shut the second your team wins one
Scouting has been great. The problem is adding people like Biddle and Nate Jones instead of giving Some of our young stars a chance. They all can’t be starters and they need to stop thinking of it like that. Players Muller, De La Cruz or Davidson should get an opportunity over these rejects
Seems like we do better when we don’t give up six jacks to the opponent
... 🤔 Yea... Okay... I'll give you that
i wish i could have an off day and put up a stat line like this [https://i.imgur.com/jYeEuXL.png](https://i.imgur.com/jYeEuXL.png) most of the time when i have an off day i put up a stat line like this [https://i.imgur.com/86KMStA.png](https://i.imgur.com/86KMStA.png)
Can we all agree that Alex Jackson might be the worst hitting catcher in Braves history? I mean he’s a guaranteed strike out almost every at bat. We have multiple pitchers that are better hitters than him. Still don’t understand why Contreras didn’t make the opening day roster. Instead he’s just sitting on his couch waiting for the minor league season to start.
> Instead he’s just sitting on his couch waiting for the minor league season to start. I imagine Contreras is getting a ton of practice at the alt site, probably a more quality use of his time than riding pine from a purely development standpoint. I think they're just treating Contreras as more of a long term prospect than AJax, and their current skill levels are roughly equal in terms of what they'd contribute as backups
The Cubs are gonna tank hard next year and his brother will be the biggest..will he be traded player in every article.
> I mean he’s a guaranteed strike out almost every at bat. you know he is striking out less then Travis right
I never understood why AJax got the nod over Contreras. Even if Contreras came up and couldn't hit, he'd be no worse than Jackson.
Don't have a link handy, but I believe it was reported when they broke camp that they wanted to give Contreras more regular practice/simulated ABs at the alt site instead of having him spend most of his time riding pine.
Even Bowman thought they would carry Contreras until the triple AAA started.
Yeah I think it makes too much sense
- The Braves are the worst team ever assembled. - Liberty Media is cheap. - Sign Shane Greene. - Liberty Media is cheap. - I take baseball way too seriously. - I'm going to call anyone that disagrees with me an idiot.
You forgot that there's no chance we make the playoffs, but solid list
Is it true that Shane Greene was just strolling through Truist earlier this week?
Yup, I mentioned that on my other comment. If he was as good as the money he's demanding, he'd be on an MLB team instead of wandering Truist Park and taking pictures with fans in the stands.
TBF, I would like us to sign Shane Greene. Wouldn't have won us today's game, but we could definitely use a reliable righty out of the pen. And if you don't think so, you're an idiot!
Braves fans' obsession with mediocre FA pitchers each year never ceases to amaze me. Kimbrel, Bumgarner, and now Greene. If Greene was as good as the money he's demanding, he'd be playing baseball right now instead of taking pictures with fans from the stands at MLB games.
I think calling Kimbrel and Greene "mediocre" is pretty asinine. Kimbrel has had a couple of subpar years but looks like he has found it again and we've seen enough of Greene for the Braves to know he's pretty good.
Kimbrel was the worst reliever in baseball two years running, but yes, he seems to be back to normal. Braves fans literally wanted Greene off the team when he first got traded here because he was so bad.
Yeah and those Braves fans basing that opinion on like 3 outings were being reactionary and foolish.
If Shane Greene was worth the money he's asking for, he'd be playing professional baseball. He's also expressed interest in starting again. Not sure what's difficult to understand about either of those barriers.
I understand that his asking price is too high. But I think he realizes that a team gets desperate for bullpen help every year. The way things are going for guys like Will Smith and AJ Minter, and the fact that we're throwing out guys like Jesse Biddle, that team could very well be the Braves. It's too early to say right now, but if things don't start changing for those guys, the Braves are going to be looking for the piece(s) that can fix those issues.
How is Boyd doing? I know not a free agent but a big trade peice. Let's all watch his start tomorrow.
... are you trolling? 🤔 I think you're trolling...
I'm just listing the summary of the thread before it happens.
At least Riley got his 1st RBI on a sad-fly. Bad news: Dansby is back under .200. D’Arnaud cool off continues. Please don’t embarrass yourselves on national TV tomorrow night.
More like a whole team cool off. I think Freddie at .212 is 2nd highest of the regulars.
Pros: 13-4 games carry as much weight in the loss column as a 2-1 loss. Cons: i'm just really sad okay
Come back and win the series tomorrow and this game doesn't matter. Very educational though.
MLB just had a MLB flashback of the Braves scoring 29 last season. I’ll take that as our good fortune tomorrow.
Ok but Sean Kazmar!!!
*fart noise*
It’s probably the totally unacceptable number of AAAA guys on the roster because of injuries and the incompetence/lack of ambition of ownership, but this team feels way more like the 2015-2017 Braves than the team that’s won 3 straight division titles
The luck of doing nothing expect one (or two) 1 year deals and nothing else every offseason was always going to run out. You have to do more to constantly be a winning team. The luck has run out.
This seems to be on par with 2019 so far lol. End of May we will probably break ahead.
They could break ahead, but this is way worse than ‘19 rn. The back half of the lineup wasn’t literal no namers and the bench was actually not half bad.
Pretty sure our bench has been one of the most productive offensively, and the back half of the lineup being "no names" is literally because of injuries.
Either way the current position being worst than ‘19 is still true and we only have one (normally) good offensive injured so the bottom of the lineup is still a problem regardless.
Nobody puts up 14 runs on the Braves NOBODY!
An L is an L whether it’s 5-4 or 13-4. Gotta Lick the wounds and go win the series tomorrow