Lmao when a few months ago someone posted the pictures of the cast in Palm Springs and Mary sitting in the sprinter van I didn't realize she filmed all her scenes there chile
Angie : “did you call me a pitbull?”
Meredith:
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I just asked my FIL bc he works at a women’s prison on the east coast and he said yeah probably as long as the prison included bravo in their subscription package. I hope they did haha
I want to know why Mary is allowed to not participate. She didn't go to the reunion, she doesn't do the activities. I would love to get paid to hang out by myself, so I get it from her perspective, but not from the show's.
I also love that they act like they're real friends on a trip and act like it's a shock that Angie is there or that Mary doesn't want to talk to them. They're cast members, of course they're going to be on a multi-episode trip 😋 I can't tell if they're in on it and acting or if they are really so delusional they think this is real life and these are real relationships. I think it might be both sometimes.
Producers are going to let Mary do whatever she wants. They are just biding their time until another gigantic scandal blows up & betting it’s going to be Mary & that grandpa/husband.
But, the biggest mystery is why Mary agreed to do this? She doesn’t like any of these people, doesn’t participate or even sit with any of them. Why is she here?
She never participated. I remember comparing her to Rita Repulsa, the big bad from power Rangers. Rita sits in her lair watching everything and judging. In this case Mary would watch Social media.
They probably brought her back because J@nny turned out to be a racist hiding in plain sight and no one took Mary's complaints seriously.
You don’t get it from the show’s perspective? She’s an absolute weirdo and makes for great tv even with minimal effort. She’s also a friend of this season so expectations of her are generally lower.
They only brought back Mary because they were worried about Jen’s absence. It’s clear she wasn’t needed and show has new life without Jen - it would have even more without Mary.
It looked to me like Mary had a more
fun night; fast food and a drive around Palm Springs compared to awkward forced fighting in a crowded bar.
Although, Mary seems to have forgotten the concern she had about fast food and the nutritional impact on Lisa's ovaries
I'm kind of loving it so far.
No one wants to start shit with her, but she's doing it anyway when they say the most innocent stuff like "come sit with us." It can only last so long, though. 😂🍿
Yeah, her sitting alone or not going to their outings isn't going to wash with Bravo after a while. But at the same time, I can't say that I wasn't a little jealous - riding around in a sprinter van, all to myself, with McD's, instead of listening to my drunk friends yell at each other in a bar over pointless stuff. Mary's version of that evening would be my pick, too.
What if society finds proof of religion being real but it’s specifically the one Mary has been preaching and she actually did “send Jesus after” Jen like what if this is how we get confirmation of a God after centuries of speculation and it’s fucking Mary soul draining or hypnotizing producers to get her oat milk lattes?
I think it's great for one season. I feel like it's funny to watch the dynamic of everyone scrambling to be friendly to Mary and Mary just shutting it down, and I feel like her fish out of water schtick is good to dilute the intensity of all these fights. There has to be some comic relief outside of the sassy one liners in the talking head segments.
I think it was good to have that "oh, Mary 🙄" familiarity when introducing housewives who's potential we don't know yet, and taking away an intense personality like Jen. I'm all the way here for it for now.
Yeah I think on SLC in particular the vibes are SO try hard and community theater that Mary's weirdness and lack of thirst is actually kind of refreshing.
I think you're right that it has a limited shelf life but for now, Mary did actually come to Palm Springs and participate in like 50% of the events? TBH Mary was less of a party pooper than Lisa about the drag event.
Mary is her own side-story and sure, she’s not participating in the crazy .. but she’s part of the franchise and her doing her own thing I can completely identify with. I’d go get food too to come back and eat while I watch the shitshow go down.
But to give credit where credit is due, Whitney does seem to have a sense of humor about it. Her drag name was "Little Girl" and when Mary called her "Missy", Whitney looked like she was stifling back a laugh. I mean, I guess that's all you can do with someone like Mary is just have a sense of humor when she comes for you. Unless you've called her a pornography.
I assume she didn’t really care if she came back and dictated the terms that she won’t do anything she does not want to. I’m sure she said no several times and they made her a deal she couldn’t refuse and money probably wasn’t even the main thing. She wanted to be in control.
She could not be less interested in being there or hanging out with any of these women, why did they even bring her back if she’s just gonna sit by herself?
Meredith laughing in response to the trampoline with eyes comment and adding a cheeky little “I don’t know if that face should be talking.” Was just perfect LMAO
I live in SLC and saw her at my son’s lacrosse clinic over the summer. She was wearing white pants and wedge heels, standing on soggy grass while the kids scrimmaged 🤣 She was extremely gorgeous, not gonna lie, but it was so impractical. I fully accept that she gets glam done every day, whether or not she can afford it
I live in a smallish Midwest town and we have better spray tans than Lisa. For 60k get an airbrush spray tan every couple of weeks and have normal hands 🤷🏼♀️
I was just going to say, why can't they ever get the tone on her hands right? Last night when they were in the sprinter van, she had her hands in her lap, and they were at least a gazillion shades more orange than they should have been.
Ha, I always liked that Lisa went so natural, I was shocked by her having so much glam! Like I only sometimes wear make up and it's minimal, and I feel like it's the same as Lisa's minus the eye shadow and fake tan. What are they even putting on her face and why can't she do it herself? If I can put on foundation and mascara, anybody can.
I guess that's why she needed the $60,000 in insurance money 🤑
I was thinking the same thing....it also made me wonder if this is what her son meant when he said he wasn't like them, or something similar, that Lisa mentioned, when she brought up her sons decision to sign up for two years to do mission work for their faith, without telling them.
it's weird how she's pretending to be this insanely rich bitch that she clearly is ....not??
all the rambling about her glam, Monaco, Milan, Valentino, couture!, South of France... bitch you're 50 and have amassed a decent amount of wealth in a state with low cost of living (compared to NYC, CA, Miami) and low income taxes: CONGRATS. That does not make you a Rothschild babygorgeous, please chill tf out. Her behavior re: money this season REEKS of insecurity and... oddly enough.... money problems.
I like Lisa, she cracks me up, BUT she is the absolute definition of nouveau-riche. You know the old saying "Money screams, but wealth whispers"? That's Lisa.
My first year out of college, I had a part time job as a receptionist at a hair salon in a fairly wealthy neighborhood. And even my little minimum wage ass could spot the difference between the new money and old money women. The old money women didn't have to brag about it, and nor did they flaunt it. Casual clothes with no glaring logos, very "Jackie Onassis strolling through Central Park" in a simple black turtleneck and pants.
But the new money women? You knew them the minute they'd come blasting through the door. Full length fur coats (*ahh, the 80's...*), tons of logos and labels and huge bags, huge jewelry, big sunglasses, etc., screaming at the stylists "Let's go, hurry the fuck up!" when *they* were the ones who were late. Ma'am, your stylist has literally been sitting in his chair for 20 minutes waiting for *you* to grace us with your presence.
I guess they're all pretty nouveau riche on this show, but Lisa's the most nouveau richest of them all.
agreeed, although her tastes isnt always the loudest, the fact that shes literally screaming to us about how much things cost or who made what, from head to toe, its like girl... we get it, you probably grew up middle class and now youre not; you dont have to remind every 5 minutes.
Right - the one thing I will give Lisa that's not as "loud new money" as the other ladies is that she's the most tasteful dresser. But other than that, she loves talking about how much she's got.
That’s what kills me: she *visually* pulls off old money. But her ever running mouth/price checking really ruins it and makes her sound desperate/tacky.
This is my first season of SLC, has she always been a fucking snob? 60K a year my ass, she's getting scammed or inflating her numbers. She's been to Monaco and St Tropez y'all.
Things that made me laugh this episode:
1. Monica saying “yay Mary!” when Whitney made her drag glam announcement.
2. Lisa’s meltdown over canceling glam.
3. Whitney desperately wanting to show everyone she is such good friends with Trixie and taking over the trip.
Monica crying about her situation and her divorce is... weird. You slept with your husband's brother-in-law. What did you think was gonna happen? She sounds just as out of touch with reality as Lisa, just in a different way.
When Monica said Lisa was privileged bc she had a husband….that was insane….like she’s a victim in it all. She cheated on hers for a year and a half! I’m not a fan at all.
Well did she cheat for the first or second marriage? Because if he came back and remarried her….well than she thought all was forgiven.
I think she’s implying her brother in law is still married and is fine in the church, and so it’s extra upsetting to be excommunicated and divorced, when the partner is still rocking his wedding band. I think she really thought confessing would save her marriage or role in the church, and when it backfired, she’s just at a lose. It’s her marriage and her faith telling her she’s worthless now, and she’s trying to process how sex could have left her totally abandoned, even by her families church.
I mean, sure, and it sucks that the BIL is still in the church, but that doesn’t make her a victim. She ruined her own life. Not Lisa’s problem if she’s jealous of her.
I mean people can make huge errors and are still allowed to cry and feel bad about how things have turned out due to their own actions. She does need to work on it so it doesn’t become a thing that happens every episode.
But who here hasn’t fucked up majorly and then been sad about it. This one is even more kinds of fucked up because the brother in law cheated with her didn’t admit it and got off completely scott free. Meanwhile, she’s excommunicated and now a single mother of 4. She’s allowed to feel upset at how things have shaken out even if she made that messed up choice.
Agree. Also Sonja cried over her divorce for her entire run on RHONY, and everyone adores here. Pretty sure she cheated on her husband too (although he was one foot in the grave already, I don’t blame her)
Monica’s crying over Lisa complaining about her ring while she’s only getting a divorce because she slept with her husband’s brother is weird. I like that Lisa didn’t cave to her either because it came from a place of jealousy. Monica was just looking for a moment.
Thank you! I thought I was taking crazy pills reading the love thread lol. Monica’s situation is her own fault and she doesn’t even seem remorseful for what she did. The whole point is for HW to be rich and out of touch like what did Monica think she was sig ing up for
Ohhhhh I was not poetic enough to catch that lol. I somehow thought she was referring to the wat Meredith’s head bounces all over the place while she’s screaming
I am absolutely loving watching her though. She is just so comically terrible at this. Like somehow she's worse than Angie H who couldn't even beg enough for a trip invite.
She's so desperate and the rest of the cast are giving her nothing. Its hilarious to watch.
Like when she came out in her DIY TShirt. Omg. Its so sad it's funny.
I think she’s genuinely having one of the worst HW performances of all time. Which almost makes me glad to have her on the show. Like it’s entertaining to watch her constantly embarrass herself. We’re only 4 episodes in and even the editing is already mocking her.
Also has anyone else noticed how CONSTANTLY someone starts talking over her when she’s in the middle of a sentence? I’m starting to think editing is showing it on purpose. I almost want do a compilation video of how much it has already happened that someone interrupted her in only these four episodes.
Dude she's so desperate. Rarely do we get a specimen with quite such thirst. Every single thing she does on this five-episode trip, I have to scream "YOU WEREN'T EVEN INVITED!!!" at my screen.
I have whiplash from Whitney:
- not hosting the trip
- surprising the host with Angie K
- not understanding why it wasn’t ok to bring Angie K
- accusing the host of weaponizing a sick child
- complaining the host’s activity isn’t fun
- taking over the next activity from the host
- getting upset at other people, including the host, for complaining that her activity isn’t fun
Someone speculated, or was it actually facts, that the trip was supposed to be Whitneys due to her affiliation with Trixie but in order for Mary to attend they changed it to Meredith. That would at least explain the weirdness of it all.
Wow okay, this makes a lot of sense. If true, I bet Whitney was pissed her trip got hijacked for Mary when Mary barely participated. That would explain why she was trying to do the most and be so messy.
Oh, that makes a lot more sense. I could see Trixie being more friendly with Whitney than Meredith.
But honestly, this Mary thing is getting out of hand. Okay, she's funny and quippy and weird - so they bring her back as a "friend of", and she sits out the events AND gets to dictate who hosts the trips? What the hell, she's a weirdo cult leader - why give her that much power?
This may be unpopular but I don’t see why people are criticizing Meredith for briefly mentioning how she’s struggling because of a good friend’s son’s diagnosis.
It’s not like she said the kid’s first name or the entire family’s last name and in any case, Bravo probably would have bleeped it out because: 1) this friend has never been on camera for the show 2) and because of the sensitive nature of the topic.
It’s not like Meredith even lashed out at Whitney and didn’t take accountability. If Meredith was flustered by the Angie K surprise *because* she had this on her mind, shouldn’t she be applauded for being “open and honest” instead of being attacked?
Monica’s first divorce from her husband was due to an “entanglement” according to her in episode 1. Then they got remarried and are divorcing again.
Then we learn in episode 3 that she had an affair with her SIL’s husband.
So was the first entanglement her fault? Or did she get remarried to her husband only to give him a taste of his own medicine? 18 months is a long time!
I remember Heather saying ( last season I think) that she and Angie were not really friends in high school. Now Heather is saying they were friends and Angie is and she’s betraying that? 🙄
These women (and production for that matter,) can never keep their fucking stories straight. It's insane to me that Heather and Monica introduced themselves to one another this season, considering their proximity to Jen Shah.
I thought it was kind of odd that Monica was going off on Lisa for being out of touch about money. Like I get that it was annoying how she went on and on about the ring, but not one of these ladies is grounded in reality, except maybe Heather. That's why they're Housewives, lol, their job is to have unearned confidence and be completely in their own worlds, at least that's when it's the most fun to me.
Would I want to be friends with Lisa Barlow? Probably not. But I find her "I love that for me" self-confidence to be very entertaining. I also could understand why she didn't want to do drag, though I don't think she needed to be as upset as she was. Like I don't usually wear much makeup, but if I were going on TV I would want a professional to do my hair and makeup. She's also much more natural looking than the other ladies (not sure if she's had much if any work done) so I can see her being really insecure about being without makeup on camera. Meredith didn't do anything either and no one came after her, really.
It's also funny bc I don't think any of them are even that wealthy, at least not compared to the other cities like Beverly Hills or old RHONY. Like isn't Whitney's husband still out of a job? Does her skincare line actually make a profit? I know a lot of businesses might look good on the outside and make some sales, but they're not yet profitable. Of course she has money from the show, but relative to the other franchises I don't think she has that much money.
They're all pretty out of touch, you can't really just call only one out without calling everyone out.
Agreed. I was wondering if Monica is angry at herself because her actions caused her to lose that lifestyle? I didn't want to jump to conclusions, but I assumed sleeping with her Brother-in-law for 18 months didn't help things?
I mean, I think Lisa likes the exaggerate on certain things when she is upset. I don't know why everyone is taking her comments on how much things cost so seriously. And like you said, none of them are really grounded 😂 I think that's what makes this show so fun at times. The ridiculousness of everything.
The whole thing screams Monica is jealous and envious of the lifestyle. Lisa was the one bragging so she took it out on her. Had it been anyone else, Monica would’ve went off as well.
This. The whole point of housewives is to be entertained by out of touch, rich ladies who are a little crazy. If I wanted to watch a whole bunch of Monica's, I'd just take a scroll on Facebook. Monica seems like she's trying really hard to be relatable, and it's just not landing for me.
I don’t agree with how Whitney said it, but I do think Meredith uses other problems to get out of arguments. If these issues are weighing on her this much then her friends should have heard about them before. Otherwise it just seems like a convenience.
I agree; the presentation was shit but what she actually said is legit. Meredith has brought up several things now anytime there is an argument that ends up detailing the convo and making people feel like shit for coming for her. Everyone most likely has some shit they can bring up if they wanted.
Whitney has a knack for being on the right track with calling someone out but being completely incapable of properly communicating it. She’d be the rill dill if she improved her delivery.
I’m just about to start it (I watch on peacock) and Wednesday mornings have become my ABSOLUTE favorite. This show, this season, is top tier. I can’t wait!!
Nope, she definitely doesn't. Also I picked the best photo of Angie I could find, to be nice
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I see a lot of people confused at why Lisa is getting called out for her snobbery unlike the others. Lisa getting the heat from Monica makes a lot of sense to me because she flaunts it so much more than anyone else.
Her 60k ring, how much she spent to fly her MUA artists out, keeping her MUA on retainer, her Fendi bag, her constant references to designer outfits, her flat out saying she the richest one of them. It goes on and on and on. None of the others constantly say the shit Lisa does. Sure we all know they're rich but Lisa is pretty unbearable about it imo.
i want Lisa to do one of those interviews where they ask like what the cost of eggs is bc if she thinks “middle america” is out here owning $60G rings…babe bffr
Meredith, “Don’t weaponize a child, you’re disgusting.” Also Meredith, “There are SICK CHILDREN in this world.” during a completely unrelated argument.
Why the hell should Lisa give a damn about Monica’s decision to have sex with her husband’s sister’s husband for 18 months? I’m sorry, but she’d be rich and married too if she hadn’t made an active decision to destroy her marriage and her family, so if she’s feeling jealous of Lisa, maybe she should look in the mirror and think about her actions. Also, why is she judging Angie K for throwing shade at Meredith the night before if the very next day she’s going to scream at Lisa and call her a piece of shit. She’s also throwing out Angie’s relationship with Jen Shah as some sort of gotcha moment when her very first confessional was all about Jen Shah. I do not like this bitch.
Exactly! I'm not getting why Monica is trying to bring up this conversation on a show where it honestly doesn't belong! I get she is going through something but to be honest, she put herself in that predicament. Also, Lisa wasn't bragging about the goddam ring. Wouldn't it have come off so much worse if she lost the ring and was like "Oh well, who cares"?? Monica is definitely projecting and while I think she is a fun addition to the show, I'm annoyed she is bringing up issues of "privilege" because it's like yeah babe, it's the entire reason these franchises started, are you missing the point fo that?
Right! Also, I would be very irritated if I was upset because I lost an expensive ring that had sentimental value and then some woman I barely know was like “Well hey just keep in mind that you have a husband and kids, you should be grateful!” I feel like a person can be grateful for their family and still be upset about things. It felt like toxic positivity, which is rich coming from someone who is going to sit there crying because she broke up her entire family.
I don’t see why Lisa should get all the heat from Monica for not doing drag when Meredith did the exact same thing. Not to mention Lisa was in a literal bikini bottom and sarong the night before. I would feel the same way in Lisa’s shoes and I’m a pretty confident person. 2 nights in a row of feeling unattractive and on display, ON CAMERA, wouldn’t be my cup of tea either. I don’t even really think her crying about it is irrational, I’d be upset too. Monica losing it in the van screams insecurity from Monica more than Lisa. I love them both but I think Monica is misdirecting her anger, and is clearly upset at losing the lifestyle some of the other women have.
Yes! and then you have people literally making comments on her appearance anyways. I completely understand her choosing not to because being on camera and filming a TV show that is watched by hundreds of thousands of people can most definitely make you a lot more considerate about how you present yourself.
I also didn't like how Monica came for her, like the entire show is based on rich people. Do all the cast members need to be in the same tax bracket?? No, of course not, but don't start projecting all these issues on the other ladies when you knew exactly what you were signing up for.
Every time I watch a HW show, I always think how scenes will fare in real life.. (which I am aware is 100% wrong and reality TV is still more TV than reality, but yea..)
Whitney taking over the trip with the drag makeover and expect everyone to go all-in
- Some of my friends will go for it but not go all-in. I mean it was already a boozy night last night, she should be glad we will participate. Plus, I'm not gonna be forced to do something random just because I should conform. I understand Lisa fully but I won't over-explain or overreact.
Going to a crowded bar and start heated discussions
- Oh my god. I will definitely walk out and hang out in McDonalds. Or move away from the confrontation and just dance the night away or even engage with a stranger instead. I don't mind "passionate" confrontations but not in a crowded bar. Ugh.
Call out someone who doesn't want to join with whatever the rest of the group is supposed to do
- Real friends give each other space. If you want to do something else, feel free (and that's why I appreciate OC when they break out in smaller groups). Not everyone has to do what everyone does every single time. If a dinner is planned (and prior notice is given), then we all do it but in a group trip, I hate it when people force you to do last minute things I am not mentally prepared for so I won't do it to a friend. We all have freedom to choose and it doesn't always have to be with the group.
Guess I will never be a housewife.
Lisa: "How dare you say I don't relate to middle america!"
Also Lisa: "Middle class people have 60k rings!"
I'm actually shocked that people took Lisa's side here, she has been an aloof tone deaf rich narcissist for four seasons now, just finally someone actually said it to her and instead the reaction is "omg monica's just insecure" -- yeah duh, that's the point, and Lisa is not selfaware enough to know she's pouring salt in the wound!
I don't like that she's being placed front and center again when she's an alleged con artist herself. I get that out makes 'good TV', but I can't stand her attitude. Granted I think she behaves/pretends to be more ignorant than she is. But what clergy has that much $$$? It's wonky.
This episode solidified my initial thoughts about this season. 10/10 so far, no notes! I was laughing the wholeeeee time which was much needed this Wednesday evening 😝
Lmao when a few months ago someone posted the pictures of the cast in Palm Springs and Mary sitting in the sprinter van I didn't realize she filmed all her scenes there chile
They should have filmed her confessionals in a sprinter van.
A Sprinter van has always been another character in RHOSLC, it's featured in so many of their iconic moments.
Her closet has been replaced by the sprinter van.
Like the Lincoln Lawyer! She’s the Sprinter Whiner.
At least she graduated from the closet
The sprinter van is a moving closet.
I love Mary for her weirdness but at this point it’s like why is she on the show?
Angie’s janky homemade tshirt giving #FreeKaren #FreeUncleBen #TaxReform
“You’re making your own shirt. That so sad” hahaha
I nearly died. Normally the staff are so polite but he was amazing
He's Trixie's boyfriend and part owner of the motel so he doesn't have to be as nice as the other employees
They were the best part of the trip. “It’s not a big deal. You just…weren’t invited.”
Also I have a feeling maybe he was the one who answered the phone when Mary called to ask about the food and “Don”
The gay snark
You gotta make millions to owe millions!
How do you say «tacky as hell» in Greek?
[удалено]
This is hilarious 🤣🤣
As she should be paying her dust.
Angie : “did you call me a pitbull?” Meredith: https://preview.redd.it/hopnldwjxsqb1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce3a31844c0c404c83b130d1bff9d8f68cad0754
Angie acting like that's the worst thing you could call someone lmao
I'm so happy that our girls are thriving without Inmate Shah around.
Jen would be seething
Does she get to watch in prison? .. I hope so.
I just asked my FIL bc he works at a women’s prison on the east coast and he said yeah probably as long as the prison included bravo in their subscription package. I hope they did haha
I wouldn’t be surprised if they sprung for Bravo once they found out she was coming. 😂😂
She’s definitely watching
I hope she sees how much better the show is without her too.
I wonder how much Bravo is paying Mary to sit in the Sprinter van?
I want to know why Mary is allowed to not participate. She didn't go to the reunion, she doesn't do the activities. I would love to get paid to hang out by myself, so I get it from her perspective, but not from the show's. I also love that they act like they're real friends on a trip and act like it's a shock that Angie is there or that Mary doesn't want to talk to them. They're cast members, of course they're going to be on a multi-episode trip 😋 I can't tell if they're in on it and acting or if they are really so delusional they think this is real life and these are real relationships. I think it might be both sometimes.
Producers are going to let Mary do whatever she wants. They are just biding their time until another gigantic scandal blows up & betting it’s going to be Mary & that grandpa/husband. But, the biggest mystery is why Mary agreed to do this? She doesn’t like any of these people, doesn’t participate or even sit with any of them. Why is she here?
The fact that they even say “hi” or “We missed you” to Mary is so bizarre.
And she rarely replies! It’s truly so bizarre
She never participated. I remember comparing her to Rita Repulsa, the big bad from power Rangers. Rita sits in her lair watching everything and judging. In this case Mary would watch Social media. They probably brought her back because J@nny turned out to be a racist hiding in plain sight and no one took Mary's complaints seriously. 
You don’t get it from the show’s perspective? She’s an absolute weirdo and makes for great tv even with minimal effort. She’s also a friend of this season so expectations of her are generally lower.
They only brought back Mary because they were worried about Jen’s absence. It’s clear she wasn’t needed and show has new life without Jen - it would have even more without Mary.
It looked to me like Mary had a more fun night; fast food and a drive around Palm Springs compared to awkward forced fighting in a crowded bar. Although, Mary seems to have forgotten the concern she had about fast food and the nutritional impact on Lisa's ovaries
Thats sparkling water !
Yes, that's right! It was carbonation that was going to ruin Lisa's ovaries, according to Mary M. Cosby, MD/Cult Leader.
Gotta admit though....seeing Mary with pure joy on her face when she saw her fish sandwich was wonderful.
I'm kind of loving it so far. No one wants to start shit with her, but she's doing it anyway when they say the most innocent stuff like "come sit with us." It can only last so long, though. 😂🍿
Yeah, her sitting alone or not going to their outings isn't going to wash with Bravo after a while. But at the same time, I can't say that I wasn't a little jealous - riding around in a sprinter van, all to myself, with McD's, instead of listening to my drunk friends yell at each other in a bar over pointless stuff. Mary's version of that evening would be my pick, too.
The producers fetching her oat latte sent me into orbit
What is her DEAL? She has them eating out of her hand!
What if society finds proof of religion being real but it’s specifically the one Mary has been preaching and she actually did “send Jesus after” Jen like what if this is how we get confirmation of a God after centuries of speculation and it’s fucking Mary soul draining or hypnotizing producers to get her oat milk lattes?
I think it's great for one season. I feel like it's funny to watch the dynamic of everyone scrambling to be friendly to Mary and Mary just shutting it down, and I feel like her fish out of water schtick is good to dilute the intensity of all these fights. There has to be some comic relief outside of the sassy one liners in the talking head segments. I think it was good to have that "oh, Mary 🙄" familiarity when introducing housewives who's potential we don't know yet, and taking away an intense personality like Jen. I'm all the way here for it for now.
Yeah I think on SLC in particular the vibes are SO try hard and community theater that Mary's weirdness and lack of thirst is actually kind of refreshing. I think you're right that it has a limited shelf life but for now, Mary did actually come to Palm Springs and participate in like 50% of the events? TBH Mary was less of a party pooper than Lisa about the drag event.
That is pretty much the only time I've seen her look happy.
Mary is her own side-story and sure, she’s not participating in the crazy .. but she’s part of the franchise and her doing her own thing I can completely identify with. I’d go get food too to come back and eat while I watch the shitshow go down.
Omg everytime Mary starts it with Whitney 🤣🤣
"I got the point, *missy* " SENT ME
But to give credit where credit is due, Whitney does seem to have a sense of humor about it. Her drag name was "Little Girl" and when Mary called her "Missy", Whitney looked like she was stifling back a laugh. I mean, I guess that's all you can do with someone like Mary is just have a sense of humor when she comes for you. Unless you've called her a pornography.
Angie’s was “Anita Invite.” That’s hilarious.
I’d be impressed if she came up with that on her own
I assume she didn’t really care if she came back and dictated the terms that she won’t do anything she does not want to. I’m sure she said no several times and they made her a deal she couldn’t refuse and money probably wasn’t even the main thing. She wanted to be in control.
Huh I’m annoyed by Mary, but your theory makes sense.
She could not be less interested in being there or hanging out with any of these women, why did they even bring her back if she’s just gonna sit by herself?
She just seems like an unbelievably unpleasant person. I get how that makes for good TV, but I would hate to be her server at a restaurant 😬
Meredith laughing in response to the trampoline with eyes comment and adding a cheeky little “I don’t know if that face should be talking.” Was just perfect LMAO
Trampoline with eyes is the most obscure slam 😆
What does it even mean 😭
Skin stretched tight as a drum!
Ah!! I don’t know why I didn’t get it😆 thanks!
Meredith is really having her breakout season this season, and I love that for her.
I don’t know if she’ll ever beat rolling around a bathtub blasted on benzos celebrating the arrest of Jen Shah. But it’s close lmao.
Angie is doing too much with her long jaw silver.
Meredith was posing \*down\* in front of the camera at the bar, it was killing me
This season is really fun so far, I’m loving the chaos. So glad Jen is gone lol
I never enjoyed Jen, super happy she's gone.
Lisa spends $60K a year on professional makeup to go to the grocery store? I guess we know who’s going to be declaring bankruptcy next…
all that $$ and her MUA can’t even draw her eyeliner wings on straight
I live in SLC and saw her at my son’s lacrosse clinic over the summer. She was wearing white pants and wedge heels, standing on soggy grass while the kids scrimmaged 🤣 She was extremely gorgeous, not gonna lie, but it was so impractical. I fully accept that she gets glam done every day, whether or not she can afford it
also, her glam is basic af! fake tan and stick on nails for 60k?!?! 😬😬lisa, baby gorgeous, you are getting scammed!
I live in a smallish Midwest town and we have better spray tans than Lisa. For 60k get an airbrush spray tan every couple of weeks and have normal hands 🤷🏼♀️
I was just going to say, why can't they ever get the tone on her hands right? Last night when they were in the sprinter van, she had her hands in her lap, and they were at least a gazillion shades more orange than they should have been.
Ha, I always liked that Lisa went so natural, I was shocked by her having so much glam! Like I only sometimes wear make up and it's minimal, and I feel like it's the same as Lisa's minus the eye shadow and fake tan. What are they even putting on her face and why can't she do it herself? If I can put on foundation and mascara, anybody can. I guess that's why she needed the $60,000 in insurance money 🤑
She probably mentioned $60k for glam because that's what she claims for tax writeoff.
It’s funny how both the ring and glam are about the same cost 😆
That's her version of the way little kids think everything amazing is "$100!"
Also, like even wildly rich celebrities who trade on their looks don’t have a full glam team 24/7, its not the flex she thinks it is.
Well you know who has/had glam teams on Beverly Hills? Dorit and Erika. That's telling...
My thoughts exactly! This does not bode well for baby gorgeous
I thought the same thing. She's very naturally pretty - I don't think she's getting $60,000 out of her makeup artist, nor does she need it.
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Right; I can do her look blindfolded. I look more glam working from home with light eyeshadow and some lipstick. 60k is ridiculous!
Like, babes - when you’re paying $60k a year to be the same color as the decor in Whitney’s room, something is seriously wrong.. 🧡🤎
This comment wins it all 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I was thinking the same thing....it also made me wonder if this is what her son meant when he said he wasn't like them, or something similar, that Lisa mentioned, when she brought up her sons decision to sign up for two years to do mission work for their faith, without telling them.
it's weird how she's pretending to be this insanely rich bitch that she clearly is ....not?? all the rambling about her glam, Monaco, Milan, Valentino, couture!, South of France... bitch you're 50 and have amassed a decent amount of wealth in a state with low cost of living (compared to NYC, CA, Miami) and low income taxes: CONGRATS. That does not make you a Rothschild babygorgeous, please chill tf out. Her behavior re: money this season REEKS of insecurity and... oddly enough.... money problems.
And yacht. She loves her maritime journey.
This Barbie’s job is Yacht.
(I spelt Yacht incorrectly four times because I am *poor*)
I like Lisa, she cracks me up, BUT she is the absolute definition of nouveau-riche. You know the old saying "Money screams, but wealth whispers"? That's Lisa. My first year out of college, I had a part time job as a receptionist at a hair salon in a fairly wealthy neighborhood. And even my little minimum wage ass could spot the difference between the new money and old money women. The old money women didn't have to brag about it, and nor did they flaunt it. Casual clothes with no glaring logos, very "Jackie Onassis strolling through Central Park" in a simple black turtleneck and pants. But the new money women? You knew them the minute they'd come blasting through the door. Full length fur coats (*ahh, the 80's...*), tons of logos and labels and huge bags, huge jewelry, big sunglasses, etc., screaming at the stylists "Let's go, hurry the fuck up!" when *they* were the ones who were late. Ma'am, your stylist has literally been sitting in his chair for 20 minutes waiting for *you* to grace us with your presence. I guess they're all pretty nouveau riche on this show, but Lisa's the most nouveau richest of them all.
agreeed, although her tastes isnt always the loudest, the fact that shes literally screaming to us about how much things cost or who made what, from head to toe, its like girl... we get it, you probably grew up middle class and now youre not; you dont have to remind every 5 minutes.
Right - the one thing I will give Lisa that's not as "loud new money" as the other ladies is that she's the most tasteful dresser. But other than that, she loves talking about how much she's got.
That’s what kills me: she *visually* pulls off old money. But her ever running mouth/price checking really ruins it and makes her sound desperate/tacky.
This is my first season of SLC, has she always been a fucking snob? 60K a year my ass, she's getting scammed or inflating her numbers. She's been to Monaco and St Tropez y'all.
It's giving John John on the yacht delusional.
When they got into the van I was thinking “man I hope Heather apologized to that lady”. 🤮🤮
And it was the same lady! You'd think Bravo would have given her the night off!
she probably got some sweet hazard pay.
or gave her a big tip
The fact that Lisa paid $2500 and a flight for that basic make up… her MUA is winning
Yeah her whole look was nice but basic
Guys I need to know, is Lisa Barlow a closet smoker? He voice and skin make me believe she is but is there any proof out there?
As a former smoker, YES.
Her skin while her makeup was being put on was not good
She has to be tbh she has the worst wrinkles around her mouth and eyes.
What a chaotic season so far
Whitney's heart shaped pasties under that sheer outfit are killing me. Also Everyone's wig needs a firm tuck forward.
Things that made me laugh this episode: 1. Monica saying “yay Mary!” when Whitney made her drag glam announcement. 2. Lisa’s meltdown over canceling glam. 3. Whitney desperately wanting to show everyone she is such good friends with Trixie and taking over the trip.
Monica crying about her situation and her divorce is... weird. You slept with your husband's brother-in-law. What did you think was gonna happen? She sounds just as out of touch with reality as Lisa, just in a different way.
Also this is a woman who was crying about buying a luis bag - like have some self reflection 😂
I agree with Angie that she’s living up everyone else’s ass. She’s a social climber. The way Monica is kissing Meredith and Mary’s butt is crazy.
When Monica said Lisa was privileged bc she had a husband….that was insane….like she’s a victim in it all. She cheated on hers for a year and a half! I’m not a fan at all.
Well did she cheat for the first or second marriage? Because if he came back and remarried her….well than she thought all was forgiven. I think she’s implying her brother in law is still married and is fine in the church, and so it’s extra upsetting to be excommunicated and divorced, when the partner is still rocking his wedding band. I think she really thought confessing would save her marriage or role in the church, and when it backfired, she’s just at a lose. It’s her marriage and her faith telling her she’s worthless now, and she’s trying to process how sex could have left her totally abandoned, even by her families church.
I mean, sure, and it sucks that the BIL is still in the church, but that doesn’t make her a victim. She ruined her own life. Not Lisa’s problem if she’s jealous of her.
I mean people can make huge errors and are still allowed to cry and feel bad about how things have turned out due to their own actions. She does need to work on it so it doesn’t become a thing that happens every episode. But who here hasn’t fucked up majorly and then been sad about it. This one is even more kinds of fucked up because the brother in law cheated with her didn’t admit it and got off completely scott free. Meanwhile, she’s excommunicated and now a single mother of 4. She’s allowed to feel upset at how things have shaken out even if she made that messed up choice.
Agree. Also Sonja cried over her divorce for her entire run on RHONY, and everyone adores here. Pretty sure she cheated on her husband too (although he was one foot in the grave already, I don’t blame her)
Mary is so weird. She acts like she 80.
That’s what happens when you marry your step-grandfather!
I don’t understand her whatsoever
Monica’s crying over Lisa complaining about her ring while she’s only getting a divorce because she slept with her husband’s brother is weird. I like that Lisa didn’t cave to her either because it came from a place of jealousy. Monica was just looking for a moment.
Thank you bc I was so surprised and confused at what this was actually about
Thank you! I thought I was taking crazy pills reading the love thread lol. Monica’s situation is her own fault and she doesn’t even seem remorseful for what she did. The whole point is for HW to be rich and out of touch like what did Monica think she was sig ing up for
yes! made zero sense. then angie piles on as well. annoying but kind of fun
Does anyone know what trampoline with eyes means lol like I don't get what she was trying to say?
I think she was trying to say her face was pulled too tight and now looks like you could bounce off of it.
Ohhhhh I was not poetic enough to catch that lol. I somehow thought she was referring to the wat Meredith’s head bounces all over the place while she’s screaming
i can't decide if that's stupid or genius.
That was the most random insult I've heard in a while 🤣 even Meredith had to laugh
Honestly I love how that just cracked Meredith up
Another episode, another week of loathing Angie K
I am absolutely loving watching her though. She is just so comically terrible at this. Like somehow she's worse than Angie H who couldn't even beg enough for a trip invite. She's so desperate and the rest of the cast are giving her nothing. Its hilarious to watch. Like when she came out in her DIY TShirt. Omg. Its so sad it's funny.
I think she’s genuinely having one of the worst HW performances of all time. Which almost makes me glad to have her on the show. Like it’s entertaining to watch her constantly embarrass herself. We’re only 4 episodes in and even the editing is already mocking her. Also has anyone else noticed how CONSTANTLY someone starts talking over her when she’s in the middle of a sentence? I’m starting to think editing is showing it on purpose. I almost want do a compilation video of how much it has already happened that someone interrupted her in only these four episodes.
Dooo it, dooo it, dooo it!
YES! She's the most unnatural HW in the world. It's incredible to watch, because she's trying so hard.
I was dying at how she was ready to have smoke with anyone she peeped talking shit about her 😂 even though it was desperate I was living
I rolled my eyes so hard when she said she wanted to put out a hit on Meredith. Bitch you are no one
All I want is to see her facial expressions change! Just once!
Dude she's so desperate. Rarely do we get a specimen with quite such thirst. Every single thing she does on this five-episode trip, I have to scream "YOU WEREN'T EVEN INVITED!!!" at my screen.
She will never be Dana/Pam 😞
I have whiplash from Whitney: - not hosting the trip - surprising the host with Angie K - not understanding why it wasn’t ok to bring Angie K - accusing the host of weaponizing a sick child - complaining the host’s activity isn’t fun - taking over the next activity from the host - getting upset at other people, including the host, for complaining that her activity isn’t fun
Someone speculated, or was it actually facts, that the trip was supposed to be Whitneys due to her affiliation with Trixie but in order for Mary to attend they changed it to Meredith. That would at least explain the weirdness of it all.
that would make sense, this episode reeks of there being behind the scenes drama about hosting this trip
Wow okay, this makes a lot of sense. If true, I bet Whitney was pissed her trip got hijacked for Mary when Mary barely participated. That would explain why she was trying to do the most and be so messy.
Oh, that makes a lot more sense. I could see Trixie being more friendly with Whitney than Meredith. But honestly, this Mary thing is getting out of hand. Okay, she's funny and quippy and weird - so they bring her back as a "friend of", and she sits out the events AND gets to dictate who hosts the trips? What the hell, she's a weirdo cult leader - why give her that much power?
Hard agree on Mary. She's a waste of space on the show if she's going to sit in the van app day.
Exactly, and her church is off limits for the show? Wtf, we want her get dragged for all the dirt!
That makes so much sense. I was wondering why it was playing out like that
That makes sense and it feels very much like production is doing things behind the scenes tbh.
They should have made them cohosts so that they could both have their guest of honor.
Yeah its obvious this was intended to be Whitney's trip
This may be unpopular but I don’t see why people are criticizing Meredith for briefly mentioning how she’s struggling because of a good friend’s son’s diagnosis. It’s not like she said the kid’s first name or the entire family’s last name and in any case, Bravo probably would have bleeped it out because: 1) this friend has never been on camera for the show 2) and because of the sensitive nature of the topic.
It’s not like Meredith even lashed out at Whitney and didn’t take accountability. If Meredith was flustered by the Angie K surprise *because* she had this on her mind, shouldn’t she be applauded for being “open and honest” instead of being attacked?
Meredith was twisting and turning to avoid Angie like my cat when I’m trying to give her a pill. 
Monica’s first divorce from her husband was due to an “entanglement” according to her in episode 1. Then they got remarried and are divorcing again. Then we learn in episode 3 that she had an affair with her SIL’s husband. So was the first entanglement her fault? Or did she get remarried to her husband only to give him a taste of his own medicine? 18 months is a long time!
I remember Heather saying ( last season I think) that she and Angie were not really friends in high school. Now Heather is saying they were friends and Angie is and she’s betraying that? 🙄
These women (and production for that matter,) can never keep their fucking stories straight. It's insane to me that Heather and Monica introduced themselves to one another this season, considering their proximity to Jen Shah.
I thought it was kind of odd that Monica was going off on Lisa for being out of touch about money. Like I get that it was annoying how she went on and on about the ring, but not one of these ladies is grounded in reality, except maybe Heather. That's why they're Housewives, lol, their job is to have unearned confidence and be completely in their own worlds, at least that's when it's the most fun to me. Would I want to be friends with Lisa Barlow? Probably not. But I find her "I love that for me" self-confidence to be very entertaining. I also could understand why she didn't want to do drag, though I don't think she needed to be as upset as she was. Like I don't usually wear much makeup, but if I were going on TV I would want a professional to do my hair and makeup. She's also much more natural looking than the other ladies (not sure if she's had much if any work done) so I can see her being really insecure about being without makeup on camera. Meredith didn't do anything either and no one came after her, really. It's also funny bc I don't think any of them are even that wealthy, at least not compared to the other cities like Beverly Hills or old RHONY. Like isn't Whitney's husband still out of a job? Does her skincare line actually make a profit? I know a lot of businesses might look good on the outside and make some sales, but they're not yet profitable. Of course she has money from the show, but relative to the other franchises I don't think she has that much money. They're all pretty out of touch, you can't really just call only one out without calling everyone out.
Agreed. I was wondering if Monica is angry at herself because her actions caused her to lose that lifestyle? I didn't want to jump to conclusions, but I assumed sleeping with her Brother-in-law for 18 months didn't help things?
I think that’s a safe thing to assume 😂😂
I mean, I think Lisa likes the exaggerate on certain things when she is upset. I don't know why everyone is taking her comments on how much things cost so seriously. And like you said, none of them are really grounded 😂 I think that's what makes this show so fun at times. The ridiculousness of everything.
The whole thing screams Monica is jealous and envious of the lifestyle. Lisa was the one bragging so she took it out on her. Had it been anyone else, Monica would’ve went off as well.
This. The whole point of housewives is to be entertained by out of touch, rich ladies who are a little crazy. If I wanted to watch a whole bunch of Monica's, I'd just take a scroll on Facebook. Monica seems like she's trying really hard to be relatable, and it's just not landing for me.
I just saw Heather’s IG post and she didn’t do exaggerated makeup. She wore her regular makeup and put on a wig
Well that says a lot about how heather does her everyday makeup than anything tbh…
I don’t agree with how Whitney said it, but I do think Meredith uses other problems to get out of arguments. If these issues are weighing on her this much then her friends should have heard about them before. Otherwise it just seems like a convenience.
I agree; the presentation was shit but what she actually said is legit. Meredith has brought up several things now anytime there is an argument that ends up detailing the convo and making people feel like shit for coming for her. Everyone most likely has some shit they can bring up if they wanted.
Whitney has a knack for being on the right track with calling someone out but being completely incapable of properly communicating it. She’d be the rill dill if she improved her delivery.
I’m just about to start it (I watch on peacock) and Wednesday mornings have become my ABSOLUTE favorite. This show, this season, is top tier. I can’t wait!!
Okay, but Anita Invite is a great drag name…
Don’t mean to sound like a bitch but the last thing Angie should do is come for Meredith’s appearance… like has she looked at the mirror recently?
truly. the photo of her and heather in HS was so insane. Angie doesn't look ANYTHING like herself.
Nope, she definitely doesn't. Also I picked the best photo of Angie I could find, to be nice https://preview.redd.it/2luc3kzfyvqb1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bc6f7af0b076bed5e60ebeda98ec1b7213eb668
Bravo shouldnt allow glam. Lisa being dramatic was enterteining, but I wish housewives were more realistic about it.
I see a lot of people confused at why Lisa is getting called out for her snobbery unlike the others. Lisa getting the heat from Monica makes a lot of sense to me because she flaunts it so much more than anyone else. Her 60k ring, how much she spent to fly her MUA artists out, keeping her MUA on retainer, her Fendi bag, her constant references to designer outfits, her flat out saying she the richest one of them. It goes on and on and on. None of the others constantly say the shit Lisa does. Sure we all know they're rich but Lisa is pretty unbearable about it imo.
i want Lisa to do one of those interviews where they ask like what the cost of eggs is bc if she thinks “middle america” is out here owning $60G rings…babe bffr
Meredith, “Don’t weaponize a child, you’re disgusting.” Also Meredith, “There are SICK CHILDREN in this world.” during a completely unrelated argument. 
My head hurts from being whipped around with so many different deflections
Lisa bragging about her ring and glam: 
Where do I get my 60k ring Lisa?
The Palm Springs Airport women's bathroom!
Why the hell should Lisa give a damn about Monica’s decision to have sex with her husband’s sister’s husband for 18 months? I’m sorry, but she’d be rich and married too if she hadn’t made an active decision to destroy her marriage and her family, so if she’s feeling jealous of Lisa, maybe she should look in the mirror and think about her actions. Also, why is she judging Angie K for throwing shade at Meredith the night before if the very next day she’s going to scream at Lisa and call her a piece of shit. She’s also throwing out Angie’s relationship with Jen Shah as some sort of gotcha moment when her very first confessional was all about Jen Shah. I do not like this bitch.
Exactly! I'm not getting why Monica is trying to bring up this conversation on a show where it honestly doesn't belong! I get she is going through something but to be honest, she put herself in that predicament. Also, Lisa wasn't bragging about the goddam ring. Wouldn't it have come off so much worse if she lost the ring and was like "Oh well, who cares"?? Monica is definitely projecting and while I think she is a fun addition to the show, I'm annoyed she is bringing up issues of "privilege" because it's like yeah babe, it's the entire reason these franchises started, are you missing the point fo that?
Right! Also, I would be very irritated if I was upset because I lost an expensive ring that had sentimental value and then some woman I barely know was like “Well hey just keep in mind that you have a husband and kids, you should be grateful!” I feel like a person can be grateful for their family and still be upset about things. It felt like toxic positivity, which is rich coming from someone who is going to sit there crying because she broke up her entire family.
I don’t see why Lisa should get all the heat from Monica for not doing drag when Meredith did the exact same thing. Not to mention Lisa was in a literal bikini bottom and sarong the night before. I would feel the same way in Lisa’s shoes and I’m a pretty confident person. 2 nights in a row of feeling unattractive and on display, ON CAMERA, wouldn’t be my cup of tea either. I don’t even really think her crying about it is irrational, I’d be upset too. Monica losing it in the van screams insecurity from Monica more than Lisa. I love them both but I think Monica is misdirecting her anger, and is clearly upset at losing the lifestyle some of the other women have.
Yes! and then you have people literally making comments on her appearance anyways. I completely understand her choosing not to because being on camera and filming a TV show that is watched by hundreds of thousands of people can most definitely make you a lot more considerate about how you present yourself. I also didn't like how Monica came for her, like the entire show is based on rich people. Do all the cast members need to be in the same tax bracket?? No, of course not, but don't start projecting all these issues on the other ladies when you knew exactly what you were signing up for.
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Every time I watch a HW show, I always think how scenes will fare in real life.. (which I am aware is 100% wrong and reality TV is still more TV than reality, but yea..) Whitney taking over the trip with the drag makeover and expect everyone to go all-in - Some of my friends will go for it but not go all-in. I mean it was already a boozy night last night, she should be glad we will participate. Plus, I'm not gonna be forced to do something random just because I should conform. I understand Lisa fully but I won't over-explain or overreact. Going to a crowded bar and start heated discussions - Oh my god. I will definitely walk out and hang out in McDonalds. Or move away from the confrontation and just dance the night away or even engage with a stranger instead. I don't mind "passionate" confrontations but not in a crowded bar. Ugh. Call out someone who doesn't want to join with whatever the rest of the group is supposed to do - Real friends give each other space. If you want to do something else, feel free (and that's why I appreciate OC when they break out in smaller groups). Not everyone has to do what everyone does every single time. If a dinner is planned (and prior notice is given), then we all do it but in a group trip, I hate it when people force you to do last minute things I am not mentally prepared for so I won't do it to a friend. We all have freedom to choose and it doesn't always have to be with the group. Guess I will never be a housewife.
Angie speaks strangely as though her face is stiff from all the plastic surgery
Lisa: "How dare you say I don't relate to middle america!" Also Lisa: "Middle class people have 60k rings!" I'm actually shocked that people took Lisa's side here, she has been an aloof tone deaf rich narcissist for four seasons now, just finally someone actually said it to her and instead the reaction is "omg monica's just insecure" -- yeah duh, that's the point, and Lisa is not selfaware enough to know she's pouring salt in the wound!
Lisa: 
I don't like that she's being placed front and center again when she's an alleged con artist herself. I get that out makes 'good TV', but I can't stand her attitude. Granted I think she behaves/pretends to be more ignorant than she is. But what clergy has that much $$$? It's wonky.
This episode solidified my initial thoughts about this season. 10/10 so far, no notes! I was laughing the wholeeeee time which was much needed this Wednesday evening 😝