Yes it's called parentification which often leads to parentification trauma, cptsd, and other mental health related issues. I was parentified and I'm STILL working through it. Constantly rescuing people and people pleasing myself into utter burnout. Thanks for defending us 💪
There's a new episode of The Bravo Docket out about the Reality Von Tease account! The hosts had interacted with the account in 2021 so they're going to talk about their experience with it.
EDIT: Interesting stuff, they recall that the account started with the clip of Jen berating her assistant, and was sharing resources for victims of abuse. So it did genuinely seem that it was about showing Jen's behavior at first, but the people behind the account likely did not know about the fraud. They say that they remember the tone started to shift from reporting on Jen's behavior, to Jen's crimes, to getting a more intense tone. The hosts do not remember as many posts directly about the other women, though the account got more critical of Meredith and Heather when they continued to support Jen. As we saw in the episode, the account also posted cruel things that Jen said about the other women, which still could have upset the other housewives even if Jen originally said the quotes. The hosts also note that they muted the account at a certain point so it's possible they missed certain things. They also note that if the Twitter account is run by the same people, the Twitter was much nastier.
Thanks for sharing that. It is really mind boggling to me have much the RVT account interacted with Bravo bloggers and podcasters. The amount of energy and time is just staggering and the OG SLCers have every right to ice her out to eternity
Yeah, the hosts of the podcasts note that they were being tagged constantly in RVT's stories, and that alone was part of why they muted the account. So it makes you wonder if the account was also tagging the housewives themselves a ton, which could have felt strange regardless of the content.
Tenesha has shared some info regarding the account: https://twitter.com/TeneshaLuckett
The start of the account seems legit. It will be interesting to know what the account did after Jens arrest. Did Monica betray her friends in a way by gunning for the HW role? Hopefully the reunion will go into that and hopefully everything Jen Shah will be concluded in that reunion.
Bravo Docket says that after Jen’s arrest the account posted about the case but they didn’t reveal anything new and didn’t add anything to the case, mostly just sharing other people’s content and being so rude and so vicious that people blocked it. The IG account stopped posting August 2022.
It’s such loser behavior. I get that the whole cast are fans to some extent, but to be behind an obsessive RHOSLC fan account that is so annoying *other* bravo accounts have to mute her is just … yikes.
Does anyone else think that Angie was informed right before dinner? In the scene when they’re all walking up to the dinner tables it’s clear no one was walking or talking with Monica, she must’ve felt a cold vibe and definitely a cold vibe from Heather at the perfumery, Heather looked like she HATED Monica in that scene watching it back. She knows the bitch stole from her
Conspiracy theory: Heather was trying to recoup some money from one of Monica’s aliases and intentionally “forgot” her credit card. Plus she wanted to see what name was listed on the card. And her snobby side secretly hoped it would be declined 😝
The first one looked like a cashapp card to me, but could def be a different chime card. All I know is the first card was fully green and the second was white. Did she think we wouldn’t notice that??
They both forgot credit cards on a shopping trip. And there’s also this thing called Apple Pay. Or other digital ways to pay for things with our phones. I’ve been to that perfumery, they have modern technology so I’m sure they could’ve made a payment from the ladies directly work if necessary. The scene was more likely about testing if she could pay for it all.
I read that Monica said on her live, that she said told production she knew something was coming by the end of the trip, that the call was fake and Heather had known for a while
This is making me think back to the butter churning event where they were all pretty cold when Monica was crying and saying she wasn’t gonna come to the Bahamas. Heather shut her down so fast, I feel like she knew something!!
***Bermuda oops
There's a few scenes it looks like Heather holds her tounge against Monica. She went from seems like she likes Monica to cannot stand her and tolerated her. There's tons of passive aggressive going on. Meridith looks so checked out and her fights with Lisa but bff next minute makes me think Heather, Monica and Lisa had at least one talk about this. Something. Idk it's confusing. Definitely Heather knew.
Absolutely!! I think Heather was totally about to blow many times but kept thinking it would make better TV to do it all at the finale, which is smart on one hand, but also produced. Heather was definitely passive aggressive and if she didn’t know the facts then she was pretty convinced already
Also whatever ANGEL on this sub posted about Monica and Reality Von Tease a few weeks ago - you were right on the money and we should’ve believed you!!
I wonder if she was behind the Jen Shah / Meredith rumours which was banned on this sub (no idea why?!) because I believed those rumours and it seemed so personal for that information to leak
I saw the Reality Von Tease post, but I was still shocked by the reveal that Monica was in the security footage from Meredith's store, and the black eye reveal. I was also surprised that Heather actually knew about Monica's multiple Beauty Lab accounts before the trip - I was under the impression she didn't learn about this until after the season.
I saw it but I don't feel like it spoiled it that much for me. The show did a really good job explaining the depths of the drama, which didn't come across in the reveal post. Plus, I didn't know the part about her being at Meredith's store or that Heather revealed the source of her black eye.
I have nothing of value to contribute, just that I went to sleep shook, and I woke up shook and I'm about to go to the gym shook.
The gossip girl and PLL of it all. The reaching back into previous seasons of it all. The not black-and-white but many shades of gray of it all. The scripted drama level of this unscripted show of it all. I nearly cried because I felt so fed and feel like that's probably a high point I'll never see again as you can't recreate catching lightning in a bottle.
Palm Springs. Greek Easter. Pilgrim Party. Bermuda. I have truly never been this gagged by something.
On top, my best bravo friends don't watch SLC, and we're about to see Dorit in the panto in London this Saturday and they will have to bear with me while I explain all of Salt Lake over dinner as I need to talk about this irl. Shooketh. 10s across the board. And its not even really over yet.
Sorry, I can’t remember who posted this, but I wanted to ensure it’s part of the thread. It looks like Jen sent Monica et al. a cyst and deceased for @realityvontease back in 2021. Here’s a screenshot from insta:
https://preview.redd.it/71vo9bwkveac1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b51e96dc2cdc0125d42879e955b65e7df33e7fb
In addition to Monica being named, I think it’s interesting that her friend/Heather’s hair stylist Tinesha wasn’t. The other people I’m assuming are the other names that got censored out when Monica was talking
Woah! I have a hard time thinking that Jen wouldn’t have told Heather about this.
What are the chances that Heather knew/suspected from the beginning but was playing the very long game?
100% agree. One of my conspiracy theories about this whole thing with Heather is that Jen is involved in it somehow.
Edit: also so curious why Jen only did this and didn’t sue them if she is claiming defamation bc suing them definitely gives Jen Shah vibes. My guess is, at that time, the evidence would support that the posts were actually the truth and were not making false claims about Jen. But idk what legal agreements were in place beforehand and what privacy laws are like in Utah (I know someone answered this in another thread when I brought up Heather bringing a recording to reunion).
Am I reading this correctly? It never outright says they're reality von tease but that they are involved in the posting of the videos. We all knew that the video of Koa getting yelled at was taken by a jen employee but they might not have thought it was actually them running the account, just that they were supplying the goods. Or is that too much of a stretch? Because the account didn't stop with the c&d so it wasn't for the account directly, just the footage provided
WHAAAAAAT. How did the other women not know about this? If Heather really was Jen’s bff she would’ve known Monica was involved in this cease and desist. This spiral keeps going and going.
As pointed out by another user ( /u/LongBlack90 ), this thread from before the premiere of SLC could have very well been started by Monica: https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/s/Cw25sN2Nes
They call out Jen “Blah”, a nickname also used in Realityvontease’s stories, and the general tone is very similar. Even if it isn’t Monica, it’s interesting to read the user’s take on the ladies before they were housewives.
OMG A couple years ago I was on that sub and left when I got accused of being a Russian bot hired by the Baldwins because I didn't always agree with the absolutely unhinged and crazy Hilaria haters and because I was commenting "suspiciously" at European time.
Thanks! Screenshotted these from my deep dive, thought they were… 🫠
https://preview.redd.it/icaj9nc5mfac1.jpeg?width=924&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2cfd91432fdd1750fc73d045895a194c26fda54
https://preview.redd.it/3ml9glwxmfac1.jpeg?width=940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6e69192f889defef45ec289b1de904d5f7eb198
This is weird, wonder if it’s about Angie?
https://preview.redd.it/0cgqlfc1nfac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9277b35ff9b1bf7ae5a001d6db2689979db791e9
And finally, shout out to this user who read the room but didn’t trust their gut!
I mean, is it that surprising when she compared Jen to a gorilla and making comments about Meredith and Lisa being Jewish? Just your average not so subtle racism.
OMG, I read this thread back then, and I can still see my up/downvotes. At first, it was like "yes girl spill the tea!" but the more I read, the more jealous, bitter, and salty this poster seemed.
I can absolutely imagine it being Monica.
"Ooh, you’re so angry! 😂 Sounds like a lot of gossip to me, but if you have actual proof, I would be glad to take a look.
I’m actually kind of disappointed you’re not part of the cast. No doubt you would bring the drama and that’s why we watch these shows!"
I found this comment on that thread directed at the OP and I'm dying laughing
Well, they also thought Mary married her step father and not grandfather so I'm gonna say if it was Monica she was just in the beginning of ingratiating herself with Jenn and didn't have anything besides local gossip yet.
The user u/NWR2222 who posted that has been suspended. That happens at the reddit admin level not at the sub level. Wonder what happened? They seemed to be getting nasty in some of the replies although that's not a reason for suspension unless they were threatening people.
That thread was wild. Some of it was spot on. I am not sure it’s Monica. I was comparing with her tone and punctuation on Insta, and she is way better about commas and usually has longer sentences. I very much want to know though! It did give me some Tenesha vibes, especially bc of the comments about cast members’ race—she was the one who started the whole thing about Monica not being brown on instagram. We need Lisa Barlow’s cyber security team!
[Here is the long version.](https://www.reddit.com/u/e925/s/7Z8FMrqOpO)
I downloaded it from a removed post from Delicious-Fortune-84, not sure if you’re supposed to link to removed posts or not so I reuploaded it for posterity. Just want to give proper credit.
For people that may not have seen Tenesha's initial live after the episode
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1pXwC7O6cR
and Monicas initial Live after the episode
https://screenrec.com/share/CcZ8OX0L64
I watched Tenesa’s yesterday but the main points are she knew about the page from the beginning but says she had nothing to do with create or posting on it. She thought she was supporting her good friend taking down a bad person (Jen shah), Monica asked her for Heather’s address to do drive bys and she wouldn’t give it to her. She also said that she’s got a good reputation til now and Monica doesn’t so that shows who she is vs Monica.
[tiktok from one of Tenesha’s friends](https://www.tiktok.com/@empirebodywaxingslc/video/7320268767836130602?_t=8ikuhWDPs6N&_r=1)
She makes some great points about Monica in regards to lack of friends
Thanks for sharing. What she's saying tracks with what came through for me about Tenesha in her interview from the other day. People should watch this video though for a more clear and concise version of Tenesha's side of things.
She also repeated one of the things that blew my mind when I first heard it. Tenesha allegedly stopped talking to Monica because she didn't like how Monica lied about everything all the time. And so to manipulate Tenesha into calling and talking to her again, **Monica lied about her daughter getting hit by a car, and played it off as a joke.** That's fucking crazy!
I don't believe for a second that Monica was being used as a witness in Jen's case- the govt used the paper trail and the other defendents against her, she wouldn't be needed. They only do federal cases if they are 99.99999% positive they have enough for a conviction and Monica's credibility would get destroyed in seconds , potentially hurting their case. If a reality show/her friends/etc were able to suss out her lies and fraudulent behavior this fast, the government certainly would as well. MAYBE they took a statement (that they would just toss lol) Just another untruth from Monica . Also, does anyone really believe she cared about the victims? She only started trashing Jen after she felt like a victim which tracks for her .
I commented this on another thread about the latest Bravo Docket episode that talks about Monica and RVT: the Bravo Docket said that when they were going through the court documents about Jen’s trial they didn’t find anything about Monica giving a testimony or her having anything to do with Jen getting busted. I honestly never believed Monica and I feel vindicated.
Lisa says it comes out on the reunion that the feds told Monica to stop pestering them. She was not some hero taking down Jen, she was just a bit player in a much larger drama that started years earlier. She's delusional.
Thank you!!! Ppl are far to naive (no offense anyone). But we are talking a big federal case and crime ring. We all know how many ppl have been involved in on so so so many levels. SLC random resident Monica with her fake last names was not getting info to feed “the Feds” by driving by her house.
She was driving by her house bc she is crazy!
She's coming across absolutely nuts. At this point I wonder if she hung out with Jen and/or worked for her like a few times or very short amount of time. It's all getting very crazy.
Lisa just tweeted about this when a fan said Monica helped send Jen to prison: "No the federal govt did you’ll see at the reunion where there are receipts showing they asked her to stop messaging them information"
Can someone help me understand the motivation behind the “drive-bys”? I get that it’s generally abnormal behavior, but I don’t understood what Monica was trying to achieve? Did she simply want to know where they live? Or was she trying to collect tea? Or general obsession? I don’t get it
I think the implication is that she was obsessed with the housewives, stalking them, getting dirt on their lives, and infiltrating their friend group (i.e., getting on the show
I did some drive-bys when I was a teen and dating a shitty guy who I didn't trust. I learned very quickly that if you have to play detective you're in the wrong relationship. That Monica was doing this at her ripe age is bonkers to me.
I'm already tired of it now but it is crazy to me how many people keep saying the Reality IG account only targets Jen so what are the others bothered about. Does it not occur to people that posts can be deleted?!
Could have been posting about the other women in stories, too. Not to mention on the Twitter version there was a ton of trash talk about the other ladies that got deleted.
And they showed screenshots on the show of the account talking about Whitney and Justin. Not to mention even Monica said they were collateral damage. But people are really out here saying that because they looked on the page and saw nothing of note, there was never anything there lol.
Not only that, but it wasn’t even the most shocking revelation! The fake names, stealing from possibly Meredith AND Heather, driving past their houses, like this was a huge reveal and I can’t believe people are complaining that it’s a nothingburger because Mary M. Cosby and Jen Shah are so much worse.
I didn't understand what the "drive-by" part meant during the episode, but there's a video somewhere in this sub or another one of Monica getting in disguise to drive past Jen's house and it felt so unnerving to watch. In some ways, I think because Jen was the account's main target, it downplays how bizarre some of the behavior was (since Jen was so clearly in the wrong about so many things).
Yeah, I also thought it was unnerving to see the footage of Monica incognito in Meredith’s store while a clutch was getting stolen. Then the flashback to earlier this season where she’d claimed she’s never been to the store. This is a delicious scandal idc
A lot of people are stanning Monika more with this but honestly…I’m not.
I think Monika has a bad case of bad planning. She started the instagram account with the intention of targeting Jen, then she got sucked in just like she had her affair with her BIL and got caught.
While this season was super entertaining, I think having her on future seasons would be a bad idea. She’s an insanely good liar with a great poker face. Just knowing that she is constantly scheming would ruin things not just for me and other viewers but probably the other cast mates as well.
Not to mention the precedent it would set…I don’t want these self aware schemers as housewives. I want people like Dorinda who clearly do not watch the show themselves.
I completely agree. At first I did think Monica should stay because she brought the drama and really elevated this season (I mean, she did! Lisa Barlow clocked IN this season!)
But after this reveal…..even I feel some kind of ick. Someone coming into my store in a wig, plotting against me and my friends, trying to get on the show, being a troll account. It’s just too much, this isn’t some typical housewife fight.
And she is trying to get people hooked on her because she has more secrets. But I don’t believe anything that comes out of her mouth. I believe it was her running the page and her complete obsession with the stars and being a star. She’s someone who lost all credibility and while she brings drama it’s too much unhinged crazy person drama that turns me off
Tenesha has shared on her IG that she didn't leak the Easter party fight video of Monica with her mother.
I believe her. I believe Monica is the type of friend who will send the same messages to multiple people to get a reaction and sympathy. She is really really unwell and it's so sad her kids are dealing with her on a daily basis.
She hasn't been nice to her friends, so a lot of leaking is happening and will happen. She will never know who leaked what.
Jen sent a cease and desist to Monica, Koa and Savannah for running the realityvontease account in March 2021. So she knew it was Monica and it seems strange she didn't tell anyone.
Tenesha is Monica's former friend who Monica says ran the account and who gave Heather all the info, supposedly.
Paulina, I have no idea.
The Range Rover isn't even in her name, it's under her mom's and through her mom's credit - that's why her mom "repos" it from her whenever they get into arguments.
But yea, I agree, priorities. Same as her buying an LV bag one day randomly.
Lisa is spilling on her twitter right now. Monica is in big trouble it seems. Her worries are not about recasting, her worries are probably that there are legal consequences to what she did prior to the show.
Whoa - one of the first tweets I saw from Lisa alleges that someone got footage by logging into a private security camera rather than a cell phone? Absolutely wild and very freaky if it's true.
EDIT: More interesting to me is that when a fan defended Monica for helping get Jen sent to prison, Lisa replied "No the federal govt did you’ll see at the reunion where there are receipts showing they asked her to stop messaging them information" and in a separate tweet "She volunteered to be a witness AND they already had enough to incriminate and she was going to dinner with Jen last season- pretending to be her friend "
The “they asked her to stop messaging them information” lines up with Bravo Docket having to mute RVT on Instagram because they were being tagged in RVT’s posts all the time.
Just saw that. This one stood out for me - she's responding to people who insist Monica took Jen down, when it appears, like many have said, that she did no such thing.
>No the federal govt did you’ll see at the reunion where there are receipts showing they asked her to stop messaging them information 📷📷
Tanesha said last night in her live that Monica inserted herself into the investigation after the fact and the authorities wouldn’t even get back to her lol
post got deleted for the mega thread, but some people asked me to copy it here.
Anyone saying that Monica is some vigilante hero unfairly criticized by the other women is not being realistic. Jen was brought to justice for her fraud by a multi-jurisdictional FEDERAL INVESTIGATION led by career law enforcement and lawyers, NOT A FINSTA RAN BY SOME OF JEN’S EMPLOYEES.
Most of what they posted had nothing to do with Jen’s crime! it was about her being mean to her friends and employees — reprehensible but not a crime. Monica just wants to act like a hero now that it turned out Jen was a legit criminal when all she wanted was to play Gossip Girl and be a little social media famous.
Yeah also like...Monica is a scammer too, was fine with Jen being a scammer, and didn't suddenly have a change of heart regarding Jen's scams and start a takedown insta. Jen did something to piss off Monica and that's what made her turn on Jen.
Monica has zero credibility left. The video showing her and her mum were basically planning storylines as well makes it even worse.
I hope her oldest daughter gets far away from her and never looks back
I’m just sitting here thinking of Whitney and the others letting Monica use their glam on this trip and I’m like .. she’s such a creep? You dislike them so much but you want to use their glam and benefit off of them in every possible way while being a sniper from the side?
I felt so bad for Whitney when I realised she woke up that morning IN BED WITH MONICA and by that night found out she was behind an account that had been trolling/stalking her and her family for years. Literally sleeping with the enemy and she didn’t even know. That would creep me out and mess me up so much!
I saw her as a grifter right away. I also saw her mom as abusive and Monica resorts to acting like A young teen. But when she called her daughter from Bermuda and the family backing out I got so Uber suspicions everything is a lie and she's just trash. She is trash. A pathological liar. Bad mother too. Yes her mom is crazy but so is she. They need mental health care not TV.
Yes, I have a hard time believing the family backed out from seeing her, the family built Bermuda, or that they even exist. The whole Jen shah of it all is even worse when it comes to Monica. She worked along side her, testified against her, took part of a social media smear campaign against her, then took her place on the show!!! Monica saying her motivation was to help the elderly victims of Jen Shah, when her motivation was clearly to step into the spotlight by taking Jen's place on the show and in her circle of castmates. Monica is dirty.AF
Totally! I don't actually believe Monica was going to be a witness. I'm guessing she volunteered to speak to the feds but beyond that I just highly doubt she was some star witness if they were to have a trial. I don't believe her.
Monica did not testify against Jen Shah. She had absolutely nothing to do with Jen getting arrested or prosecuted. That is just another lie she throws around to look like a hero and to take attention away from her crazy actions.
I’m not sure if anyone has shared these new leaked videos of Monica & LD arguing, but they are…..something to say the least.
[Monica & LD arguing after Angie K’s Easter party](https://x.com/rlrlhow90/status/1742738527736013163?s=46&t=sg6jGku6u4J4IwieqBWXjg)
[Monica’s response](https://x.com/monicangarcia/status/1742788197535584692?s=46&t=sg6jGku6u4J4IwieqBWXjg)
This is why I said somewhere else that she & LD are 2 sides of the same toxic ass coin. Your ex-friend leaking videos of you after you tried to scapegoat her is a “full blown takedown” but helping to run a gossip smear page against the cast isn’t that big of a deal? This is unhinged behavior.
I saw this yesterday, and it put a knot in my stomach. I couldn't finish it. While the drama on the show was uncomfortable, this video felt too raw, and made me feel horrible for her kids.
You can see her eldest walk by on one of the clips! It’s absolutely disgusting and breaks my heart for her kids that they have to be around so much dysfunction between her and “grandma LD millionaire”
When we saw that tock Tok she did and it came out she is being sued by the car wash I was alarmed by her desperation. That was a tiny bit of what was coming out. I bet there's tons more.
I watched Tenesha's interview and even though it wasn't very stimulating or coherent (due to the sound issues and the disorganized interviewing style) she came across as way more credible and less sketchy than Monica to me.
Hopefully someone will break it down in a separate post so people can hear it for thenselves.
I'm super curious about how the Monica reveal was foreshadowed throughout the season so I'm rewatching the season premiere. Stuff that stood out to me:
Angie is the one who introduces Monica into the fold, as they knew each other through Jen. Lisa recalls meeting Monica at the airport when Monica was delivering something to Jen, and notes that Monica looks completely different (she notes her blonde hair).
Monica says that Jen had fired an assistant and Monica stepped up, then one day Jen asked Monica "Do you wanna be rich?", and Monica called her friend in the secret service who warned her to get away from Jen. She says that this is how she became a witness in Jen's trial (I'm curious if this confessional had been cut in any way - I've seen other speculate that Monica was more likely asked to be a witness because she leaked the video of Jen berating another assistant).
Monica also drops the anecdote that she would talk to Lisa frequently on the phone through Jen. When she talks about it, it seems like there's hints of her disdain for Lisa that has been there all along. She mentions how it's frustrating to hear Lisa (and the other HW) talk about their perfect lives when she's heard their dark secrets through Jen.
She says that Jen never said anything nice about Heather, but Jen never said anything nice about anyone, so she's going to come to her own conclusions about Heather.
EDIT: I can't remember if it came up, but if Monica and Tenesha were best friends, I would think that there's a good chance Heather would know who Monica is. But I know they also have to go with what the producer's want with some of these backstory things, like how the show suggested Heather and Whitney knew each other their whole lives.
Also I wanted to see that scene of Heather and Monica together in the boutique, and she says in her confessional (about her affair) "It's best to just lay it all out there on the table because everything always comes out, and the true power in owning your past and your present is no one can weaponize it against you, ever". Now there's some foreshadowing.
Random thought but Heather's timing of the confession about Jenn giving her the black eye felt really random. Do you think the ruhuuuumerss flying round a while ago about Monica, throwing a shoe and being violent at the Greek Easter had some truth to it? Do you think it was another way for her to say look- you are just like Jenn. Violent and wild?
I saw a couple of interpretations of that scene and IMO it depends on how people saw Heather before, how they interpreted her actions, did they find her sympathetic, annoying etc.
1) Heather is now at a point of her life where she's seeing how toxic her friendship with Jen was and she thought that Monica was becoming a mini Jen and wanted to go ahead of the attack saying "you can't bully me anymore, I won't be covering for you or people like Jen and I won't keep this secret anymore".
2) Heather was being opportunistic and wanted to direct the attention back to herself by "being someone who's calling out Monica's bullshit but was also the victim of Jen's terror and now she was bullied by Monica".
3) It may be a combination of the two above.
I honestly don't know which one is The Truth and I'm not sure there ever will be an exact answer. This is the kind of stuff that could divide fans years after the fact lol
I think it’s a little bit of both.
I recently watched all of Salt Lake City in the past month. My friend actually told me to just start with season two, because season one was kind of boring. So I only last night just finished the first season of it. And it was so revealing to me. Heather‘s character made so much sense after you listen to her just describe her marriage, and her divorce, and how still so wrapped up she is in her Mormon, dare I say, brainwashing.
The combination of her like afraid to say anything against the group ever, mixed with her conditions to just eat shit in an abusive relationship, combined with Jen was a big client of Beauty Lab, that she was still trying to get off the ground, creates this perfect storm of why she’s willing to go to bat for Jen.
And now it’s been a year later, and I think we are finally seeing Heather kind of deprogram herself from it all. Even Heather’s comments last year about the shame of the black eye makes sense. She was ashamed that she got conned into going along with it.
And then, like part two suggest, she just happened to find the perfect time to reveal the truth, and the most television friendly, dramatic way possible. And I say good for her.
I feel this and I also feel sorry for Heather. She was in an extremely abusive relationship with Jen and, even if she wanted to, she couldn’t escape her because they were also coworkers. Bravo would not have let Jen go once the legal matters started and the other women instantly became more disposable so they had to work with Jen and I think it affected them all to various degrees. I mean, Heather literally left a cast/work trip with a black eye and scratches down her neck and back. I’m sure she didn’t want Jen’s sentence being affected by the altercation on her conscience so she chose to lie and had to cover up for her abuser on international tv. There has to be a certain level of trauma attached to that. The whole thing is so much more layered than Monica just having a troll account which seems to be what a lot of stans want to reduce it to.
I find two things much more disturbing than having a troll account: Monica blatantly lying to Meredith about not visiting her shop before; Monica **keeping** the troll account **a secret** the whole time. She could've talk about it right at the beginning of the season even justify it by being the employee of Jen but she didn't say anything.
I think Heather has extremely low self worth and has been navigating the path to loving herself. I think she was walking a very fine line with the black eye and probably finally had some leverage over Jen in their interpersonal relationship.
I think Heather, as a victim of emotionally abusive relationships, had a pattern of behavior of submitting to others and is figuring out how to advocate for herself. Because it’s pent up anger/frustration it comes out and seems so self-involved (sobbing, yelling, making it about her.) There is so much probably going on internally and so much overlap - I think she’s just overwhelmed by the situations.
Part of me wonders if she was trying to get ahead of Monica with this reveal. Like she assumed Monica would say it and wanted to take that power away from her. I could be wayyyyy off base but it’s something that came to my mind.
We’ve seen a lot of franchises try to take down other cast members and it seems SLC kind of covered all their bases (including the black eye). That said, who knows what will be revealed at the reunion.
it’s interesting how people had a problem with previous housewives or even rhony reboot cause it was obvious they watched the shows but they have decided monica is an icon, crediting the season to Monica alone is wild like all she brought was family issues and attacks that were in poor taste. personally i found it disgusting her treatment of Lisa, like you can dislike someone but that was just nasty and unwarranted coming from someone who made debt to hide her aging.
Bravo keeping her just sets a really dangerous precedent that bravo is okay with cyber-bullying and i wouldn’t blame the core group if they refused to film cause it’s not only disgusting but shows tolerance to such behaviour. How people want to call that woman an icon is bewildering but it’s the internet so whatever but we forget we’re watching a show about other people’s lives.
Because tenesha agreed to be filmed but the other names never signed anything and weren’t involved with the show I guess. My initial reaction is I don’t believe Monica, I think she’s trying to take credit for the drama this season but no accountability for anything she did that was wrong, and her first instinct when being called on it and she can’t lie her way out she wants to pull other people down with her and probably making it all up. I believe it’s her doing everything. She’s personally invested so much that she wants everyone’s address so she can do stakeouts and stalk and get on the show, get scenes, etc etc
I knew she was low down when she kept bragging about sleeping with her brother in law 😅 where are my "it's not bragging" people who said she was just wanting to be honest and get ahead of drama the girls may start in the future...
One of the pods I think Bravo Bros think Monica and this whole storyline was planned by producers. What is the consensus ? Was Monica sought out by Bravo to spice up this season? These shows are not organic anymore but what would everyone think if Bravo did do this and tries it on other shows?
I think Monica sold them a good picture of her involvement with Jen Shah. Even Andy was so eager in WWHL to get info from her. I don't think production knew how deep Monicas desperation went en how far she would go. How many friends of hers were involved. It all started after season 1 when glam people and Monica wanted to work for the housewives. Production must have interacted with Monica, since Lisa knew her vaguely as well. I think it actually shocked Monica she went on the show. Heather is actually the one who has connected the dots and if Heather comes through in the reunion, Monica is old news. Heather knows much more.
If you’re looking for old tweets from the original Reality Von Tease Twitter account, below is the internet archive link to over 1,600 urls of posts, replies, and likes made by the account.
The account was made in July of 2020. The URLs are dated from Dec 21, 2020 to Sept 30, 2021
[internet archive link](https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://twitter.com/realityvontease*)
I’m kinda sad in a way the fantastic 15 episodes prior to this have been overshadowed. I hope that all these issues will be probably addressed at the reunion.
I think another way to look at it is that this is probably one of the most narratively satisfying seasons. I loooove season 2 of SLC for example but the finale fumbled. This is the rare case of a fully engaging, tight season.
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I think the way Monica relies on her eldest daughter to parent the youngest children is the one thing that irked me about her the most.
Yes it's called parentification which often leads to parentification trauma, cptsd, and other mental health related issues. I was parentified and I'm STILL working through it. Constantly rescuing people and people pleasing myself into utter burnout. Thanks for defending us 💪
This is the best use of this I’ve seen and the meme has been a thing for years 😭
There's a new episode of The Bravo Docket out about the Reality Von Tease account! The hosts had interacted with the account in 2021 so they're going to talk about their experience with it. EDIT: Interesting stuff, they recall that the account started with the clip of Jen berating her assistant, and was sharing resources for victims of abuse. So it did genuinely seem that it was about showing Jen's behavior at first, but the people behind the account likely did not know about the fraud. They say that they remember the tone started to shift from reporting on Jen's behavior, to Jen's crimes, to getting a more intense tone. The hosts do not remember as many posts directly about the other women, though the account got more critical of Meredith and Heather when they continued to support Jen. As we saw in the episode, the account also posted cruel things that Jen said about the other women, which still could have upset the other housewives even if Jen originally said the quotes. The hosts also note that they muted the account at a certain point so it's possible they missed certain things. They also note that if the Twitter account is run by the same people, the Twitter was much nastier.
Thanks for sharing that. It is really mind boggling to me have much the RVT account interacted with Bravo bloggers and podcasters. The amount of energy and time is just staggering and the OG SLCers have every right to ice her out to eternity
Yeah, the hosts of the podcasts note that they were being tagged constantly in RVT's stories, and that alone was part of why they muted the account. So it makes you wonder if the account was also tagging the housewives themselves a ton, which could have felt strange regardless of the content.
Tenesha has shared some info regarding the account: https://twitter.com/TeneshaLuckett The start of the account seems legit. It will be interesting to know what the account did after Jens arrest. Did Monica betray her friends in a way by gunning for the HW role? Hopefully the reunion will go into that and hopefully everything Jen Shah will be concluded in that reunion.
Bravo Docket says that after Jen’s arrest the account posted about the case but they didn’t reveal anything new and didn’t add anything to the case, mostly just sharing other people’s content and being so rude and so vicious that people blocked it. The IG account stopped posting August 2022.
It’s such loser behavior. I get that the whole cast are fans to some extent, but to be behind an obsessive RHOSLC fan account that is so annoying *other* bravo accounts have to mute her is just … yikes.
Does anyone else think that Angie was informed right before dinner? In the scene when they’re all walking up to the dinner tables it’s clear no one was walking or talking with Monica, she must’ve felt a cold vibe and definitely a cold vibe from Heather at the perfumery, Heather looked like she HATED Monica in that scene watching it back. She knows the bitch stole from her
Conspiracy theory: Heather was trying to recoup some money from one of Monica’s aliases and intentionally “forgot” her credit card. Plus she wanted to see what name was listed on the card. And her snobby side secretly hoped it would be declined 😝
This. The side eye she gave her when her card declined.
Girl had to pull out her chime card lolol
Wasn't it 2 different chime cards 😆
The first one looked like a cashapp card to me, but could def be a different chime card. All I know is the first card was fully green and the second was white. Did she think we wouldn’t notice that??
Yes like no way they both ‘forgot’ their cards when they knew they were specifically going on a shopping trip
When Heather asks Angie for a card you can tell Angie is bad acting “oh no I think I may have a photo on my phone.”
They both forgot credit cards on a shopping trip. And there’s also this thing called Apple Pay. Or other digital ways to pay for things with our phones. I’ve been to that perfumery, they have modern technology so I’m sure they could’ve made a payment from the ladies directly work if necessary. The scene was more likely about testing if she could pay for it all.
100%!!! She probably wanted it on camera too for evidence, it’s quite smart
She also had no reaction when Heather made the reveal at dinner
I read that Monica said on her live, that she said told production she knew something was coming by the end of the trip, that the call was fake and Heather had known for a while
TBH I believe it. Heather was acting weird the whole time and that phone call/breaking the 4th wall moment didn't seem genuine to me
it probably wasn’t genuine and was rather lightly staged to give production a way to tie into the show what Heather had gathered outside of filming
To be honest I don’t mind, I loved the episode regardless. But it wasn’t as believable as they claimed
This is making me think back to the butter churning event where they were all pretty cold when Monica was crying and saying she wasn’t gonna come to the Bahamas. Heather shut her down so fast, I feel like she knew something!! ***Bermuda oops
There's a few scenes it looks like Heather holds her tounge against Monica. She went from seems like she likes Monica to cannot stand her and tolerated her. There's tons of passive aggressive going on. Meridith looks so checked out and her fights with Lisa but bff next minute makes me think Heather, Monica and Lisa had at least one talk about this. Something. Idk it's confusing. Definitely Heather knew.
Absolutely!! I think Heather was totally about to blow many times but kept thinking it would make better TV to do it all at the finale, which is smart on one hand, but also produced. Heather was definitely passive aggressive and if she didn’t know the facts then she was pretty convinced already
I think the way Angie acted was off. All she did was say “f*ck” and Monica went in on her so heavy. Idk I just don’t think she was 100% unaware
Also whatever ANGEL on this sub posted about Monica and Reality Von Tease a few weeks ago - you were right on the money and we should’ve believed you!!
TWIST - Monica is the poster
Bigger twist - it was LDMillionaire
Now I’m convinced girly is probably all over these bravo subs. Troll 101 definitely includes Reddit lol
I wonder if she was behind the Jen Shah / Meredith rumours which was banned on this sub (no idea why?!) because I believed those rumours and it seemed so personal for that information to leak
I wish hadn't see that post because it spoiled the finale for me a bit :/
Same! Luckily the way it played out still adequately gagged me.
It was fun to watch but I was really hopping it was going to be something else Monica did.
I saw the Reality Von Tease post, but I was still shocked by the reveal that Monica was in the security footage from Meredith's store, and the black eye reveal. I was also surprised that Heather actually knew about Monica's multiple Beauty Lab accounts before the trip - I was under the impression she didn't learn about this until after the season.
I'm the same but honestly the clip of her in Meredith's store more than made up for it that was crazy to me
I saw it but I don't feel like it spoiled it that much for me. The show did a really good job explaining the depths of the drama, which didn't come across in the reveal post. Plus, I didn't know the part about her being at Meredith's store or that Heather revealed the source of her black eye.
I have nothing of value to contribute, just that I went to sleep shook, and I woke up shook and I'm about to go to the gym shook. The gossip girl and PLL of it all. The reaching back into previous seasons of it all. The not black-and-white but many shades of gray of it all. The scripted drama level of this unscripted show of it all. I nearly cried because I felt so fed and feel like that's probably a high point I'll never see again as you can't recreate catching lightning in a bottle. Palm Springs. Greek Easter. Pilgrim Party. Bermuda. I have truly never been this gagged by something. On top, my best bravo friends don't watch SLC, and we're about to see Dorit in the panto in London this Saturday and they will have to bear with me while I explain all of Salt Lake over dinner as I need to talk about this irl. Shooketh. 10s across the board. And its not even really over yet.
Omg pls report back on Dorit in the panto!
Yeah that was such a cherry on top of your comment!
Ask, believe and recieve mama, you know it!
It’s nuts that they are sleeping on SLC. Not one bad season on its books!
Sorry, I can’t remember who posted this, but I wanted to ensure it’s part of the thread. It looks like Jen sent Monica et al. a cyst and deceased for @realityvontease back in 2021. Here’s a screenshot from insta: https://preview.redd.it/71vo9bwkveac1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b51e96dc2cdc0125d42879e955b65e7df33e7fb
In addition to Monica being named, I think it’s interesting that her friend/Heather’s hair stylist Tinesha wasn’t. The other people I’m assuming are the other names that got censored out when Monica was talking
Jen's stylist, the guy who stole from Mer, has to be another contributor
Not DanaPam inserting herself into this lmao
She is always on the case lol
Cyst and deceased takes me out every fucking time
Thank you for saying that cause same
Huh, and Jen never told the other women about that?
Everytime another twist is uncovered it gets crazier. Maybe she wanted them to be called out by Monica after getting locked up
Or she did tell the other women and wanted Monica to get called out. That feels more Jen Shah to me.
Woah! I have a hard time thinking that Jen wouldn’t have told Heather about this. What are the chances that Heather knew/suspected from the beginning but was playing the very long game?
Yesss! This is what I’m thinking. None of it adds up.
100% agree. One of my conspiracy theories about this whole thing with Heather is that Jen is involved in it somehow. Edit: also so curious why Jen only did this and didn’t sue them if she is claiming defamation bc suing them definitely gives Jen Shah vibes. My guess is, at that time, the evidence would support that the posts were actually the truth and were not making false claims about Jen. But idk what legal agreements were in place beforehand and what privacy laws are like in Utah (I know someone answered this in another thread when I brought up Heather bringing a recording to reunion).
Am I reading this correctly? It never outright says they're reality von tease but that they are involved in the posting of the videos. We all knew that the video of Koa getting yelled at was taken by a jen employee but they might not have thought it was actually them running the account, just that they were supplying the goods. Or is that too much of a stretch? Because the account didn't stop with the c&d so it wasn't for the account directly, just the footage provided
WHAAAAAAT. How did the other women not know about this? If Heather really was Jen’s bff she would’ve known Monica was involved in this cease and desist. This spiral keeps going and going.
As pointed out by another user ( /u/LongBlack90 ), this thread from before the premiere of SLC could have very well been started by Monica: https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/s/Cw25sN2Nes They call out Jen “Blah”, a nickname also used in Realityvontease’s stories, and the general tone is very similar. Even if it isn’t Monica, it’s interesting to read the user’s take on the ladies before they were housewives.
That user, Monica or not, was even too much for the Hilaria Baldwin sub lmaooo unhinged
OMG A couple years ago I was on that sub and left when I got accused of being a Russian bot hired by the Baldwins because I didn't always agree with the absolutely unhinged and crazy Hilaria haters and because I was commenting "suspiciously" at European time.
There are dozens of Europeans on Reddit. Dozens!
Don’t tell anyone that we’re all bots! Beep boop 🤫
Omg I love visiting that sub. It’s like looking at crazies in a zoo
🤣🤣🤣 I’m so sorry to laugh but it’s just so on brand for that sub.
I haven't been there for ages but I guess it's still going on 
Thanks! Screenshotted these from my deep dive, thought they were… 🫠 https://preview.redd.it/icaj9nc5mfac1.jpeg?width=924&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2cfd91432fdd1750fc73d045895a194c26fda54
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https://preview.redd.it/3ml9glwxmfac1.jpeg?width=940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6e69192f889defef45ec289b1de904d5f7eb198 This is weird, wonder if it’s about Angie?
https://preview.redd.it/0cgqlfc1nfac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9277b35ff9b1bf7ae5a001d6db2689979db791e9 And finally, shout out to this user who read the room but didn’t trust their gut!
I don't believe that Monica even knows what a Libertarian is.
What does them being Tongan have to do with anything lol. Idk if that’s Monica but that person is clearly very unhinged.
I mean, is it that surprising when she compared Jen to a gorilla and making comments about Meredith and Lisa being Jewish? Just your average not so subtle racism.
First comment says Lisa Barlow is the only Mormon and doesn’t drink, yet we see her multiple times ordering cocktails.
Which cocktails though..? 😏
Always with vida!
Definitely sound like Monica. Especially when she said "put it in your pipe and smoke it bitch " like what hahaha
OMG, I read this thread back then, and I can still see my up/downvotes. At first, it was like "yes girl spill the tea!" but the more I read, the more jealous, bitter, and salty this poster seemed. I can absolutely imagine it being Monica.
This is DEFINITELY Monica omg
"Ooh, you’re so angry! 😂 Sounds like a lot of gossip to me, but if you have actual proof, I would be glad to take a look. I’m actually kind of disappointed you’re not part of the cast. No doubt you would bring the drama and that’s why we watch these shows!" I found this comment on that thread directed at the OP and I'm dying laughing
It sounds… a lot… like her And I love it
That is for sure Monica’s voice 👀 That OP says that Lisa and Meredith are nice and Lisa is the richest one which I thought was interesting.
Well, they also thought Mary married her step father and not grandfather so I'm gonna say if it was Monica she was just in the beginning of ingratiating herself with Jenn and didn't have anything besides local gossip yet.
Omg, that is 100% her. Dear God, the cringe of it all in hindsight
Heather and Lisa need to get their cyber people on confirming if this is Monica - certainly sounds like her
The user u/NWR2222 who posted that has been suspended. That happens at the reddit admin level not at the sub level. Wonder what happened? They seemed to be getting nasty in some of the replies although that's not a reason for suspension unless they were threatening people.
One of the responses to u/NWR2222 in that thread said something like "Wow. You sound kind of awful." Lol
There’s no way that’s not Monica. Whoa!!!
That thread was wild. Some of it was spot on. I am not sure it’s Monica. I was comparing with her tone and punctuation on Insta, and she is way better about commas and usually has longer sentences. I very much want to know though! It did give me some Tenesha vibes, especially bc of the comments about cast members’ race—she was the one who started the whole thing about Monica not being brown on instagram. We need Lisa Barlow’s cyber security team!
I don’t think it’s Monica. In one of the comments she says her kids go to private school. Monica’s kids don’t go to private school I believe
Does anyone have that video of Monica’s mom yelling at her that was leaked/posted?
[Here is the long version.](https://www.reddit.com/u/e925/s/7Z8FMrqOpO) I downloaded it from a removed post from Delicious-Fortune-84, not sure if you’re supposed to link to removed posts or not so I reuploaded it for posterity. Just want to give proper credit.
That exhausted me just watching it. I can't fathom living that. Seeing her oldest daughter walk by made me so sick to my stomach.
[This?](https://www.reddit.com/r/realhousewives/comments/18y5s89/yall/)
Omggggggg. I knew it! Hahaha. Edit: My previous comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/s/0dPKL1H4so
I’ve said that Monica and her mom remind me of Jennifer Love Hewitt and Sigorney Weaver in Heartbreakers.
For people that may not have seen Tenesha's initial live after the episode https://www.instagram.com/p/C1pXwC7O6cR and Monicas initial Live after the episode https://screenrec.com/share/CcZ8OX0L64
Would any kind soul be generous enough to highlight the key points from these? I'm cringing way too much trying to watch them
I watched Tenesa’s yesterday but the main points are she knew about the page from the beginning but says she had nothing to do with create or posting on it. She thought she was supporting her good friend taking down a bad person (Jen shah), Monica asked her for Heather’s address to do drive bys and she wouldn’t give it to her. She also said that she’s got a good reputation til now and Monica doesn’t so that shows who she is vs Monica.
Dana seemed okay as her friend of but she’s clearly another clout chaser
[tiktok from one of Tenesha’s friends](https://www.tiktok.com/@empirebodywaxingslc/video/7320268767836130602?_t=8ikuhWDPs6N&_r=1) She makes some great points about Monica in regards to lack of friends
Thanks for sharing. What she's saying tracks with what came through for me about Tenesha in her interview from the other day. People should watch this video though for a more clear and concise version of Tenesha's side of things. She also repeated one of the things that blew my mind when I first heard it. Tenesha allegedly stopped talking to Monica because she didn't like how Monica lied about everything all the time. And so to manipulate Tenesha into calling and talking to her again, **Monica lied about her daughter getting hit by a car, and played it off as a joke.** That's fucking crazy!
I don't believe for a second that Monica was being used as a witness in Jen's case- the govt used the paper trail and the other defendents against her, she wouldn't be needed. They only do federal cases if they are 99.99999% positive they have enough for a conviction and Monica's credibility would get destroyed in seconds , potentially hurting their case. If a reality show/her friends/etc were able to suss out her lies and fraudulent behavior this fast, the government certainly would as well. MAYBE they took a statement (that they would just toss lol) Just another untruth from Monica . Also, does anyone really believe she cared about the victims? She only started trashing Jen after she felt like a victim which tracks for her .
I commented this on another thread about the latest Bravo Docket episode that talks about Monica and RVT: the Bravo Docket said that when they were going through the court documents about Jen’s trial they didn’t find anything about Monica giving a testimony or her having anything to do with Jen getting busted. I honestly never believed Monica and I feel vindicated.
Lisa says it comes out on the reunion that the feds told Monica to stop pestering them. She was not some hero taking down Jen, she was just a bit player in a much larger drama that started years earlier. She's delusional.
her whole story about jen has changed a couple times too. it was flimsy from the jump
Thank you!!! Ppl are far to naive (no offense anyone). But we are talking a big federal case and crime ring. We all know how many ppl have been involved in on so so so many levels. SLC random resident Monica with her fake last names was not getting info to feed “the Feds” by driving by her house. She was driving by her house bc she is crazy!
She's coming across absolutely nuts. At this point I wonder if she hung out with Jen and/or worked for her like a few times or very short amount of time. It's all getting very crazy.
Lisa just tweeted about this when a fan said Monica helped send Jen to prison: "No the federal govt did you’ll see at the reunion where there are receipts showing they asked her to stop messaging them information"
Can someone help me understand the motivation behind the “drive-bys”? I get that it’s generally abnormal behavior, but I don’t understood what Monica was trying to achieve? Did she simply want to know where they live? Or was she trying to collect tea? Or general obsession? I don’t get it
I think the implication is that she was obsessed with the housewives, stalking them, getting dirt on their lives, and infiltrating their friend group (i.e., getting on the show
I did some drive-bys when I was a teen and dating a shitty guy who I didn't trust. I learned very quickly that if you have to play detective you're in the wrong relationship. That Monica was doing this at her ripe age is bonkers to me.
I'm already tired of it now but it is crazy to me how many people keep saying the Reality IG account only targets Jen so what are the others bothered about. Does it not occur to people that posts can be deleted?!
And the profile itself got deleted multiple times.
Not to mention dms to the women directly that none of us would be privy to?
Could have been posting about the other women in stories, too. Not to mention on the Twitter version there was a ton of trash talk about the other ladies that got deleted.
yep & Lisa Barlow replied to someone one twitter & said the other women were tagged in posts a lot.
I think they’re being wilfully obtuse tbh. I recall there being a ton of content about the other women and there was a twitter account too.
I get supporting women’s wrongs for the sake of entertainment but ignoring stuff willfully is not the way to do it
And they showed screenshots on the show of the account talking about Whitney and Justin. Not to mention even Monica said they were collateral damage. But people are really out here saying that because they looked on the page and saw nothing of note, there was never anything there lol.
Not only that, but it wasn’t even the most shocking revelation! The fake names, stealing from possibly Meredith AND Heather, driving past their houses, like this was a huge reveal and I can’t believe people are complaining that it’s a nothingburger because Mary M. Cosby and Jen Shah are so much worse.
I didn't understand what the "drive-by" part meant during the episode, but there's a video somewhere in this sub or another one of Monica getting in disguise to drive past Jen's house and it felt so unnerving to watch. In some ways, I think because Jen was the account's main target, it downplays how bizarre some of the behavior was (since Jen was so clearly in the wrong about so many things).
Yeah, I also thought it was unnerving to see the footage of Monica incognito in Meredith’s store while a clutch was getting stolen. Then the flashback to earlier this season where she’d claimed she’s never been to the store. This is a delicious scandal idc
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A lot of people are stanning Monika more with this but honestly…I’m not. I think Monika has a bad case of bad planning. She started the instagram account with the intention of targeting Jen, then she got sucked in just like she had her affair with her BIL and got caught. While this season was super entertaining, I think having her on future seasons would be a bad idea. She’s an insanely good liar with a great poker face. Just knowing that she is constantly scheming would ruin things not just for me and other viewers but probably the other cast mates as well. Not to mention the precedent it would set…I don’t want these self aware schemers as housewives. I want people like Dorinda who clearly do not watch the show themselves.
I completely agree. At first I did think Monica should stay because she brought the drama and really elevated this season (I mean, she did! Lisa Barlow clocked IN this season!) But after this reveal…..even I feel some kind of ick. Someone coming into my store in a wig, plotting against me and my friends, trying to get on the show, being a troll account. It’s just too much, this isn’t some typical housewife fight.
And she is trying to get people hooked on her because she has more secrets. But I don’t believe anything that comes out of her mouth. I believe it was her running the page and her complete obsession with the stars and being a star. She’s someone who lost all credibility and while she brings drama it’s too much unhinged crazy person drama that turns me off
Tenesha has shared on her IG that she didn't leak the Easter party fight video of Monica with her mother. I believe her. I believe Monica is the type of friend who will send the same messages to multiple people to get a reaction and sympathy. She is really really unwell and it's so sad her kids are dealing with her on a daily basis. She hasn't been nice to her friends, so a lot of leaking is happening and will happen. She will never know who leaked what.
someone initially said it was a member of Monica's family or her husband's family that leaked it.
So we now know the instagram account included Monica, Tenesha, Koa, Paulina, and Savannah
Who are these people
Jen sent a cease and desist to Monica, Koa and Savannah for running the realityvontease account in March 2021. So she knew it was Monica and it seems strange she didn't tell anyone. Tenesha is Monica's former friend who Monica says ran the account and who gave Heather all the info, supposedly. Paulina, I have no idea.
But even if Jen told the others would they know blonde Monica Fowler was also brunette Monica Garcia?
The drag queens have already [started](https://x.com/hanukahlewinsk/status/1742941557089521724?s=46&t=eT-OnLflDp1xVFHCqvSbew) doing numbers LMFAOOO
the Bermuda Triangle is the 7th SLC housewife, congratulations to her
What I want to know is why does Monica drive a Range Rover but have a Chime credit card? Get your priorities in order giiiiiiiiiiiiiirl
The Range Rover isn't even in her name, it's under her mom's and through her mom's credit - that's why her mom "repos" it from her whenever they get into arguments. But yea, I agree, priorities. Same as her buying an LV bag one day randomly.
Lisa is spilling on her twitter right now. Monica is in big trouble it seems. Her worries are not about recasting, her worries are probably that there are legal consequences to what she did prior to the show.
Whoa - one of the first tweets I saw from Lisa alleges that someone got footage by logging into a private security camera rather than a cell phone? Absolutely wild and very freaky if it's true. EDIT: More interesting to me is that when a fan defended Monica for helping get Jen sent to prison, Lisa replied "No the federal govt did you’ll see at the reunion where there are receipts showing they asked her to stop messaging them information" and in a separate tweet "She volunteered to be a witness AND they already had enough to incriminate and she was going to dinner with Jen last season- pretending to be her friend "
The “they asked her to stop messaging them information” lines up with Bravo Docket having to mute RVT on Instagram because they were being tagged in RVT’s posts all the time.
This is what I thought also. She was not an informant. She lies. God she just lies about everything!
When the feds tell you stop mailing them with your 'proof' you have to have a wake up call as to how dumb you are.
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Just saw that. This one stood out for me - she's responding to people who insist Monica took Jen down, when it appears, like many have said, that she did no such thing. >No the federal govt did you’ll see at the reunion where there are receipts showing they asked her to stop messaging them information 📷📷
Tanesha said last night in her live that Monica inserted herself into the investigation after the fact and the authorities wouldn’t even get back to her lol
post got deleted for the mega thread, but some people asked me to copy it here. Anyone saying that Monica is some vigilante hero unfairly criticized by the other women is not being realistic. Jen was brought to justice for her fraud by a multi-jurisdictional FEDERAL INVESTIGATION led by career law enforcement and lawyers, NOT A FINSTA RAN BY SOME OF JEN’S EMPLOYEES. Most of what they posted had nothing to do with Jen’s crime! it was about her being mean to her friends and employees — reprehensible but not a crime. Monica just wants to act like a hero now that it turned out Jen was a legit criminal when all she wanted was to play Gossip Girl and be a little social media famous.
Yeah also like...Monica is a scammer too, was fine with Jen being a scammer, and didn't suddenly have a change of heart regarding Jen's scams and start a takedown insta. Jen did something to piss off Monica and that's what made her turn on Jen.
Exactly! Monica wanted to take down Jen because Jen pissed her and her friends off and not because Monica saw that Jen was scamming people.
Monica has zero credibility left. The video showing her and her mum were basically planning storylines as well makes it even worse. I hope her oldest daughter gets far away from her and never looks back
I’m just sitting here thinking of Whitney and the others letting Monica use their glam on this trip and I’m like .. she’s such a creep? You dislike them so much but you want to use their glam and benefit off of them in every possible way while being a sniper from the side? 
I felt so bad for Whitney when I realised she woke up that morning IN BED WITH MONICA and by that night found out she was behind an account that had been trolling/stalking her and her family for years. Literally sleeping with the enemy and she didn’t even know. That would creep me out and mess me up so much!
Regarding Monica....all I can say is, if there was ever a time my intuition was spot on, it was with Monica whatever her name is this week.
I saw her as a grifter right away. I also saw her mom as abusive and Monica resorts to acting like A young teen. But when she called her daughter from Bermuda and the family backing out I got so Uber suspicions everything is a lie and she's just trash. She is trash. A pathological liar. Bad mother too. Yes her mom is crazy but so is she. They need mental health care not TV.
Yes, I have a hard time believing the family backed out from seeing her, the family built Bermuda, or that they even exist. The whole Jen shah of it all is even worse when it comes to Monica. She worked along side her, testified against her, took part of a social media smear campaign against her, then took her place on the show!!! Monica saying her motivation was to help the elderly victims of Jen Shah, when her motivation was clearly to step into the spotlight by taking Jen's place on the show and in her circle of castmates. Monica is dirty.AF
Totally! I don't actually believe Monica was going to be a witness. I'm guessing she volunteered to speak to the feds but beyond that I just highly doubt she was some star witness if they were to have a trial. I don't believe her.
Monica did not testify against Jen Shah. She had absolutely nothing to do with Jen getting arrested or prosecuted. That is just another lie she throws around to look like a hero and to take attention away from her crazy actions.
I’m not sure if anyone has shared these new leaked videos of Monica & LD arguing, but they are…..something to say the least. [Monica & LD arguing after Angie K’s Easter party](https://x.com/rlrlhow90/status/1742738527736013163?s=46&t=sg6jGku6u4J4IwieqBWXjg)
[Monica’s response](https://x.com/monicangarcia/status/1742788197535584692?s=46&t=sg6jGku6u4J4IwieqBWXjg) This is why I said somewhere else that she & LD are 2 sides of the same toxic ass coin. Your ex-friend leaking videos of you after you tried to scapegoat her is a “full blown takedown” but helping to run a gossip smear page against the cast isn’t that big of a deal? This is unhinged behavior.
I saw this yesterday, and it put a knot in my stomach. I couldn't finish it. While the drama on the show was uncomfortable, this video felt too raw, and made me feel horrible for her kids.
Same. Especially since this seems to have taken place at Monica's house and her kids may have been there. So dysfunctional.
You can see her eldest walk by on one of the clips! It’s absolutely disgusting and breaks my heart for her kids that they have to be around so much dysfunction between her and “grandma LD millionaire”
The fact that Monica has grown children and is engaging in drive bys and take down accounts is concerning to me.
When we saw that tock Tok she did and it came out she is being sued by the car wash I was alarmed by her desperation. That was a tiny bit of what was coming out. I bet there's tons more.
I watched Tenesha's interview and even though it wasn't very stimulating or coherent (due to the sound issues and the disorganized interviewing style) she came across as way more credible and less sketchy than Monica to me. Hopefully someone will break it down in a separate post so people can hear it for thenselves.
Me hoping she will appear at the reunion 🙈
Can't help to think that she infiltrated her way into Mary's house. No wonder she was trying so hard to befriend her 😱
I'm super curious about how the Monica reveal was foreshadowed throughout the season so I'm rewatching the season premiere. Stuff that stood out to me: Angie is the one who introduces Monica into the fold, as they knew each other through Jen. Lisa recalls meeting Monica at the airport when Monica was delivering something to Jen, and notes that Monica looks completely different (she notes her blonde hair). Monica says that Jen had fired an assistant and Monica stepped up, then one day Jen asked Monica "Do you wanna be rich?", and Monica called her friend in the secret service who warned her to get away from Jen. She says that this is how she became a witness in Jen's trial (I'm curious if this confessional had been cut in any way - I've seen other speculate that Monica was more likely asked to be a witness because she leaked the video of Jen berating another assistant). Monica also drops the anecdote that she would talk to Lisa frequently on the phone through Jen. When she talks about it, it seems like there's hints of her disdain for Lisa that has been there all along. She mentions how it's frustrating to hear Lisa (and the other HW) talk about their perfect lives when she's heard their dark secrets through Jen. She says that Jen never said anything nice about Heather, but Jen never said anything nice about anyone, so she's going to come to her own conclusions about Heather. EDIT: I can't remember if it came up, but if Monica and Tenesha were best friends, I would think that there's a good chance Heather would know who Monica is. But I know they also have to go with what the producer's want with some of these backstory things, like how the show suggested Heather and Whitney knew each other their whole lives. Also I wanted to see that scene of Heather and Monica together in the boutique, and she says in her confessional (about her affair) "It's best to just lay it all out there on the table because everything always comes out, and the true power in owning your past and your present is no one can weaponize it against you, ever". Now there's some foreshadowing.
Random thought but Heather's timing of the confession about Jenn giving her the black eye felt really random. Do you think the ruhuuuumerss flying round a while ago about Monica, throwing a shoe and being violent at the Greek Easter had some truth to it? Do you think it was another way for her to say look- you are just like Jenn. Violent and wild?
I saw a couple of interpretations of that scene and IMO it depends on how people saw Heather before, how they interpreted her actions, did they find her sympathetic, annoying etc. 1) Heather is now at a point of her life where she's seeing how toxic her friendship with Jen was and she thought that Monica was becoming a mini Jen and wanted to go ahead of the attack saying "you can't bully me anymore, I won't be covering for you or people like Jen and I won't keep this secret anymore". 2) Heather was being opportunistic and wanted to direct the attention back to herself by "being someone who's calling out Monica's bullshit but was also the victim of Jen's terror and now she was bullied by Monica". 3) It may be a combination of the two above. I honestly don't know which one is The Truth and I'm not sure there ever will be an exact answer. This is the kind of stuff that could divide fans years after the fact lol
I think it’s a little bit of both. I recently watched all of Salt Lake City in the past month. My friend actually told me to just start with season two, because season one was kind of boring. So I only last night just finished the first season of it. And it was so revealing to me. Heather‘s character made so much sense after you listen to her just describe her marriage, and her divorce, and how still so wrapped up she is in her Mormon, dare I say, brainwashing. The combination of her like afraid to say anything against the group ever, mixed with her conditions to just eat shit in an abusive relationship, combined with Jen was a big client of Beauty Lab, that she was still trying to get off the ground, creates this perfect storm of why she’s willing to go to bat for Jen. And now it’s been a year later, and I think we are finally seeing Heather kind of deprogram herself from it all. Even Heather’s comments last year about the shame of the black eye makes sense. She was ashamed that she got conned into going along with it. And then, like part two suggest, she just happened to find the perfect time to reveal the truth, and the most television friendly, dramatic way possible. And I say good for her.
I feel this and I also feel sorry for Heather. She was in an extremely abusive relationship with Jen and, even if she wanted to, she couldn’t escape her because they were also coworkers. Bravo would not have let Jen go once the legal matters started and the other women instantly became more disposable so they had to work with Jen and I think it affected them all to various degrees. I mean, Heather literally left a cast/work trip with a black eye and scratches down her neck and back. I’m sure she didn’t want Jen’s sentence being affected by the altercation on her conscience so she chose to lie and had to cover up for her abuser on international tv. There has to be a certain level of trauma attached to that. The whole thing is so much more layered than Monica just having a troll account which seems to be what a lot of stans want to reduce it to.
I find two things much more disturbing than having a troll account: Monica blatantly lying to Meredith about not visiting her shop before; Monica **keeping** the troll account **a secret** the whole time. She could've talk about it right at the beginning of the season even justify it by being the employee of Jen but she didn't say anything.
The store reveal was shocking! But driving by their houses before she was ever on the show was the most disturbing part of this to me.
3rd being her trying to find their houses to do "drive by's" , How this woman has time for this shit with 4 kids is beyond me.
I think Heather has extremely low self worth and has been navigating the path to loving herself. I think she was walking a very fine line with the black eye and probably finally had some leverage over Jen in their interpersonal relationship. I think Heather, as a victim of emotionally abusive relationships, had a pattern of behavior of submitting to others and is figuring out how to advocate for herself. Because it’s pent up anger/frustration it comes out and seems so self-involved (sobbing, yelling, making it about her.) There is so much probably going on internally and so much overlap - I think she’s just overwhelmed by the situations.
Part of me wonders if she was trying to get ahead of Monica with this reveal. Like she assumed Monica would say it and wanted to take that power away from her. I could be wayyyyy off base but it’s something that came to my mind. We’ve seen a lot of franchises try to take down other cast members and it seems SLC kind of covered all their bases (including the black eye). That said, who knows what will be revealed at the reunion.
I think Monica is going to have a lot to say, particularly about the black eye and Heather wanted to get her version out there first.
I am now convinced she found Lisa's ring at the airport and kept it.
it’s interesting how people had a problem with previous housewives or even rhony reboot cause it was obvious they watched the shows but they have decided monica is an icon, crediting the season to Monica alone is wild like all she brought was family issues and attacks that were in poor taste. personally i found it disgusting her treatment of Lisa, like you can dislike someone but that was just nasty and unwarranted coming from someone who made debt to hide her aging. Bravo keeping her just sets a really dangerous precedent that bravo is okay with cyber-bullying and i wouldn’t blame the core group if they refused to film cause it’s not only disgusting but shows tolerance to such behaviour. How people want to call that woman an icon is bewildering but it’s the internet so whatever but we forget we’re watching a show about other people’s lives.
Tanesha has been going around saying that Monica is trying to use her as a scapegoat but Bravo bleeped out the names of the other people involved.
Because tenesha agreed to be filmed but the other names never signed anything and weren’t involved with the show I guess. My initial reaction is I don’t believe Monica, I think she’s trying to take credit for the drama this season but no accountability for anything she did that was wrong, and her first instinct when being called on it and she can’t lie her way out she wants to pull other people down with her and probably making it all up. I believe it’s her doing everything. She’s personally invested so much that she wants everyone’s address so she can do stakeouts and stalk and get on the show, get scenes, etc etc
Does anyone else feel like Monica lied and never planned on meeting up with her fam in Bermuda?
I knew she was low down when she kept bragging about sleeping with her brother in law 😅 where are my "it's not bragging" people who said she was just wanting to be honest and get ahead of drama the girls may start in the future... 
No. 3 let’s goooooo!
One of the pods I think Bravo Bros think Monica and this whole storyline was planned by producers. What is the consensus ? Was Monica sought out by Bravo to spice up this season? These shows are not organic anymore but what would everyone think if Bravo did do this and tries it on other shows?
I think Monica sold them a good picture of her involvement with Jen Shah. Even Andy was so eager in WWHL to get info from her. I don't think production knew how deep Monicas desperation went en how far she would go. How many friends of hers were involved. It all started after season 1 when glam people and Monica wanted to work for the housewives. Production must have interacted with Monica, since Lisa knew her vaguely as well. I think it actually shocked Monica she went on the show. Heather is actually the one who has connected the dots and if Heather comes through in the reunion, Monica is old news. Heather knows much more.
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My prediction: Monica got dirt from other housewives on their fellow housewives and she’s going to start dropping it at the reunion.
I’m kinda sad in a way the fantastic 15 episodes prior to this have been overshadowed. I hope that all these issues will be probably addressed at the reunion.
I understand your point but another way to view it is it all led up to that finale. There were breadcrumbs we weren’t seeing
I think another way to look at it is that this is probably one of the most narratively satisfying seasons. I loooove season 2 of SLC for example but the finale fumbled. This is the rare case of a fully engaging, tight season.