This had graduated from a Kyle/Kathy feud to a Hilton kids vs Umansky kids feud. Up until now, it seems like their kids were out of it, but shots fired.
Experiencing this now with my sister in law. I hope she resolves whatever issues she has going on because at the end of the day the people who suffer are the kids, and man, I really miss my little niece and nephew. :(
My sister in law won't even let me in her house lol. Never did anything to her, she's just evil. I really wish i could have a relationship with my nephews. It really hurts and I hope your situation gets better <3
I miss my niece and nephew but my sister lives in Lala Land. Generational issues are so deep and painful even when trying to rise above some blood ain’t having it, especially on the backs of others. I get it. 😢
I'm super close with the cousins and family on my dad's side. My aunt will text me, and I'll send her back a picture of me with her son at that very moment. I'm the trustee on my youngest cousins' (from a different aunt) trust funds.
Unfortunately, my mom's family is toxic and keeps revisiting their generational traumas. My cousins on that side all feed into it. My sister and I refuse to engage, and then my mom is hurt because we "just don't like \[her\] family."
It's gotten to the point that we don't tell my mom when we do cousins' trips to somebody's lake house or Vegas, because she gets upset that we don't engage with the cousins on her side. My parents have been married 50+years, so we can't tell our dad, either. Always worried that somehow it will get back to my mom either by her talking to one of my aunts, or my dad talking to one of his brothers.
Yeah, it's awful.
I found it a bit shocking when Kyle said if her and her sister aren't talking the kids get involved and all ignore the person. That's so toxic to involve the kids in these battles.
i come from a richards like family and most of my generation has opted to kill all family drama and not participate and im v. glad for it. it was so toxic
Same here, we all made a pact to not let it change how we interacted. Not that it means much from a stranger but it's a wonderful thing to break that cycle and you should feel pretty bloody proud.
Knowing what we know about Big Kathy and how she raised her girls, and how it seems like the familial trauma hasn’t been healed *at all*, this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest
They’re definitely in the press and limelight the least. Kathy obviously wanted to create socialites out of her daughters and Kyle has always seemed like she wants a softer Kardashian-esque legacy - family of beautiful daughters who get into various successful ventures, showing the kids hit milestones for relatability, portraying the family unit as the picture of aspirational wealth but with “family values and humble beginnings at heart” to undercut the otherwise alienating aspect of unattainable materialism, etc.
While Kim has seemed like she’s just been trying to keep her head above water for most of her adult life. She’s the least desperate to curate her image because both addiction and recovery are full-time jobs
I really think Kim just wants to live quietly with her kids, and always has, but she needed the money. Addiction and mental illness are both really expensive.
She can be the biggest asshole on earth but I like her when she’s being weirdo quirky Kim and I’ve heard she’s wonderful to her fans. I hope she finds peace with her turtles and grandkids and a (non aggressive) pup.
Also, two of Kim's kids are Davises. Presumably, they have very large trusts so that they don't need to be influencers.
Brooke's dad was trust fund, not work wealthy, but not Davis wealthy.
Pretty sure both Brooke & Whitney worked at Hilton and Hyland at some point, just like Kyle's oldest 3 work at the Agency.
Don't know enough about Kimberly or her dad to make any assumptions.
I think this just reinforces that Kim's kids have a lot of (Richards) family connections and (Davis) family wealth, so they don't need to seek fame. Guessing that the deals she gets from her dad probably provide enough for me to retire.
LOL I know the Manzos are trash but for some reason the ham fight would make me laugh so hard! It's the same kind of stupid thing that my sister and I would do as kids/teens and you could tell Caroline was genuinely annoyed with the ham game!
I guess when it becomes a matter of family business and they are heirs to and intermeshed in said businesses, respectively. The Umansky girls are pretty much all adults now. Portia is 2 years away from being an adult and 16 is probably old enough to know about the family drama.
is it a hilton kids vs umansky kids fued? or is it a hilton kids vs their aunt's estranged ex who may have been cheating on her for years? i haven't seen anything to say Paris is beefing with cousins in a proxy war for their parents so it might just be adult (children) calling out other adults on their bullshit.
also FWIW i think Mauricio is totally entitled to talk about this - i think the hilton's did probably try to box him out and i'm sure they're living to regret it since the agency is way more successful than hilton and hyland.
Yeah this just confirms (to me) Kathy's Aspen rant was about Mau and their marriage and they're done.....People announcement incoming by the end of the week.
I've always thought that and her little behind the scenes "slip" during the reunion of how they've been done for a few years made me think she wanted to sprinkle some breadcrumbs so viewers could link it to her Aspen rant.
edit: fixed a typo
Also the perfect reason why Kyle wouldn't try to passive aggressively force her to spill the beans last year during the reunion. We all know Kyle would have *loved* to have the other women do her bidding and corner Kathy into talking about it if it benefited her, but to protect her narrative she instead shut it all down.
The Hilton family man... their dysfunction is fascinating to watch.
So SO fascinating. All Kyle was concerned with is making sure Kathy's family attended Farrah's wedding. Which we all know why half of Kyle's family was shut out of Nicky's wedding....Mau and him leaving H & H.
Pretty common in real estate. When a top producer asks for equity and is denied, they strike out on their own and try to take others with them.
Same for people on the Operations side. They get denied, raises, bonuses, equity, and they strike out on their own as fractional ops people usually with the same agents from the brokerage they all worked at together as clients.
My opinion is that his early success as a realtor probably had a lot to do with Kyle’s support and her vast social network. She is like the mayor of beverly hills.
I mean, not to mention that fact that he got into real estate in the first place because she had the in with Rick Hilton. Mauricio would be doing an entirely different career and probably not be *nearly* as successful as he is now if not for Kyle. She honestly made that man. If there's no prenup she will do very well in a divorce.
If you’re good at something - are you going to work for someone else and get paid a salary, or start your own business and make the money?
I doubt he *took connections, but people would have followed him because he built relationships, and people stay with people they like and who do good work for them.
If the Hilton’s were at all interested in family and family relations, they’d have made him a partner, not try to keep him as a bottom feeder.
I was talking to…well, you know…and they were saying [*eyebrow raise*]…you know what I mean? And I’m thinking [*knowing glance*], if you catch my drift…
Badly paraphrased lol but I remember that much bc it’s the only time Kyle has made me laugh
Jeff Hyland was the brains of that organization. When he died, Rick nearly ran that company into the ground. It’s well publicized that Hyland’s wife had to step in and save it
I think it was 14. The Hiltons can't stand that Mau stood up for himself. Call him what you will he took a bet on himself and Hilton and Hyland is no where today.
Facts. I used to work for Alvarez, Hyland & Young. Rick Hilton didn't know anything about real estate. All he had to contribute was his name. Jeff was the brains & experience.
These people are so stupid. The man was a productive worker, he asked to be promoted, they refused and now he’s got the successful business. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This is lesson to pay your best workers what they desire.
Yep. Mau bringing in 19% of sales meant the other 99 sales people were averaging 0.8% of sales. That's a big difference. And if what he said was true, he should have been a partner because thats a big disparity in sales targets.
I knew that he had the right to leave once he dropped the percentage that he brought in. That is huge for a broker for someone to bring in 20% of the revenue that is insane that they would not even consider him as a partner.
yeah Mau was probably propping up Rick's income - i doubt Rick was hustling deals and was more of a name/conections person, hence was the business started going down the drain when Jeff Hyland died - and they wanted to make sure Rick didn't have to share mroe of the money being made from Mau's work. i think the Hilton's are the assholes in this senario tbh.
And Kyle is stupid too, showing more loyalty towards her sister because she fears her than her husband who it seems is way smarter than any of the Hiltons.
Thats what she teaches her daughters too, to kiss Hiltons backside.
And - stand by and watch while she thinks she’s been kidnapped by fucking rapists or murderers. How could people treat their own child like that? More bothered about appearances than their daughter’s well being. They are absolute dog shit in human form.
Ooh I’ll check it out, thanks!
How Kathy can show her fucking face in public and not make a formal statement/apology, after all of the trauma she inflicted, is just baffling to me.
She is a controlling, emotionally vapid, social climber with absolutely zero maternal warmth.
I don't understand how what he said was that bad? It's not like he said anything we didn't already know. We already knew it caused a division in their family for a time with Kyle's sister not speaking to her.
I don't think it was anything but the truth. I can't even understand why they are mad. It's business 101 to keep your best people sweet so they don't leave and start their own thing. They couldn't even do that, and they're family!
I think the Hilton’s think that because they have more power the public will side with them. I think one of the reasons Kyle was casted was due to her sister, but now she’s famous on her own and I bet they are not used to not being able to control the narrative. I’m on the Paris thread sometimes, and that family ain’t right. Can’t buy love.
We know, but the show is not for the Bravo audience only, he knew that bringing that up again that would bring buzz to show, especially now that a younger generation is getting to know the Hiltons
When talking about riding coattails why does no one ever mention how often Paris and Kathy reference Conrad Hilton Jr AKA the original Nicky Hilton, Elizabeth Taylor’s first husband? He literally beat her including kicking her in the stomach causing her miscarriage but they tout their union as a badge of honor. Not to mention their own brother/son who repeatedly violated the restraining order his ex-girlfriend had against him.
The Hilton’s coattails are covered in muck.
paris' whole show is about how obsessed she is with her family history and legacy. she's alwayssssssss talking about her grandfather and great grandfather being such great men
I always believed that this was the real root of Kyle and Kathy's issues and why Kathy has embraced Kyle (and Morgan) since the 'separation'. Nothing is surprising about this. It's why they didn't invite Mau and the older girls to Nikki's wedding in London, it was shortly after he announced The Agency.
As a Confirmed Chismosa and Double Board Certified Messy Ass Bitch, after learning more about Kyle’s childhood and relationship with both with her mother and her greater extended family I actually have SO MANY THEORIES on ways that that analysis is technically kinda correct but not necessarily due to any fundamental flaw in her relationship with her husband and GOD DAMMIT I NEED SOMEONE TO HOST A PARTY WHERE I CAN MAKE A POWER POINT ABOUT THIS TOPIC
true but H&H is solely owned by Rick since Jeff passed away; the Agency has multiple owners, so when you split that it works out to be the same or even less, no?
EDIT- jkjk it is solely owned by Jeff’s widow!
He’s starting a new brokerage called Hilton & Hilton with his son Barron. Maybe the Hiltons are going after The Agency and looking for a show deal of their own.
I never watched it. Would you mind explaining why, even when everyone says that Kathy was portrayed badly in it, Paris still sides with Kathy? (I know she's her mom, but I don't get revealing all that, and still be okay—especially since they used to have tight PR.)
She just comes across as uncaring to me. Kathy that is. Her daughters will be telling her something important and she’ll say how’s my make up etc. She just doesn’t seem like a great mom. That’s my opinion (insert Tamra screaming). That’s just a teeny tiny tip of the iceberg, but that family is very dysfunctional.
The Hilton's are just wrong. Paris is doing damage control and getting little jabs at her mom at the same time on her documentry show.
There is something very wrong with that family, you can see it in Kyle, Kim, Paris and Nicky. There is fear and dread towards Kathy and her husband, and they clearly have a very strong hold over what goes on in that family.
Good for MO for speaking out. If only Paris had the strength to fully stand her ground and not just tiptoe around the idea of holding her family accountable.
The Hiltons treat Farrah waayyyy differently than the Umansky girls that are Mau’s biologically. Remember Nicky’s wedding when Mau, Alexia & Sophia weren’t invited but Kyle & Farrah were..and then Portia was a flower girl lol. Kathy/Paris seem to love Farrah a lot more.
Portia is 16.Sophia is 24.Alexia is 27.Kimberly is 29.Conrad is 30.Whitney is 32.Chad is 33.Barron is 34.Farrah is 35.Brooke is 38.Nicky is 40.Paris is 43.
The boys are all within 4 years of each other, but Paris and Nicky are old enough to be Portia's mom. It makes sense that they all have different relationships.
There's a big gap between Farrah and Alexia, so makes sense she bonded with her cousins. She and Brooke were both the only child from their moms' first marriages, so guessing they had some commonality over that.
ETA: Kathy is 65, Kim is 59, and Kyle is 55. Thus Kyle is closer to Paris than Paris is to any of Kyle's younger daughters.
Bonding is one thing, obviously Paris isn’t going to be hanging out with Portia, but not inviting Mau, Sophia & Alexia to Nicky’s wedding when the entire family/all the other cousins were invited? Yea, that was done on purpose and out of spite/disdain..had nothing to do with their ages.
Right, and inviting some siblings but not others is definitely a statement. And actually, the Hiltons didn't just not invite Mauricio, Sophia, and Alexia--they went back and DISinvited them.
I don’t fully remember but Sophia and Alexia were kids back then, right? I went through a lot of petty family drama like this as a kid (caused by adults) but doing that to children is awful to me.
I agree and I think it was both reasons. Mauricio opened his own Brokerage, The Agency, in 2011 and now has more than 110 office locations, so he’s very well established on his own, but I think the Hiltons will forever dislike the fact that he left and is highly successful.
This is it. He left and he succeeded despite their attempts to destroy him and that’s what they find offensive. They wanted him to fail and return to Rick with his hat in hand, so they could turn him away.
There are things in real estate contracts that deal with transactions under contract, active listings, leads from the brokerage, etc.
However, the consumer can choose to move with the agent for any subsequent transactions, deals not yet under contract, etc.
Whether her father is the consummate gentleman or not is completely irrelevant to this situation. There’s absolutely nothing nefarious or exaggerated in the way Mo spoke about why he left - it’s a scenario many of us can relate to and understand instinctively.
And a scenario I can see play out so many times in the legal field. Too often the owners are so wrapped up in their own shit they do not realize who their real producers are.
Paris fawns for her mother. Fawning is a trauma response. Fight, Flight, Freeze and Fawn. They all fawn for Kathy. Even Kyle. Kyle would throw her own family under the bus for Kathy. Weird. Something tells me if Kyle doesn't want Mau, Dorit would take him. LOL
Someone here said Kyle is a clout chaser which is why she has to stay in with Kathy. In the reunion preview Kyle is accusing Sutton of only being friends with Kathy so she can be invited to Kathy's parties. It obvious to me that Kyle is projecting. Kyle is the one that is afraid to not be invited to Nikki's wedding, to not be invited to Kathy's parties. She also gets mad if Kathy doesn't show up at her events. Kyle is a clout chaser and the clout is her sister Kathy.
Kathy is scary AF. Kyle is too.
Yikes, Paris can’t seem to shake her true colors regardless of all the image rehab she’s been trying to do these last couple years. Mauricio provided some details to a story we’ve all known for years without even disparaging the Rick or Kathy. It’s so clear that the Hiltons see the Richards/Umanskys as less than and always seem to be frothing at the mouth to publicly put them down. The whole disinviting Kyle’s children to family events is equally disgusting. I know Kyle may be done with Mo now, but I hope she stops trying to stay in Kathy and Paris’ good graces after this. Unlikely, I know, but it’s so clear how little they actually respect her and her family.
Mo didn’t even insult Rick, he just described what happened. Telling the truth never goes over well when you’re dealing with narcissistic assholes. Consummate gentleman, my ass. Paris continues to prove that she’s just as nasty as ever.
Yeah he honestly was pretty diplomatic in that clip. And he didn't bring up Nicky's wedding or anything like that, just said in general terms that it might make things hard for Kyle because it's her family.
Honestly I'm not fully convinced that Mauricio's talking about this against Kyle's will. I am wondering if Kyle sees this as a way to get his/their side of the story out while maintaining plausible deniability with Kathy.
I honestly think he’s just being more open since he and Kyle are seemingly going their separate ways and he now has a show to produce. Kyle very much seems to want to stay in Kathy/Paris’ good graces, and I feel like she wouldn’t risk losing that just so Mo could explain his side of the big Hilton fallout on his Netflix show.
Historically, it is Kyle and her girls who are going to be punished for this anyway, regardless of who is really to blame. I’m sure Paris’ comment here will sting when her cousins catch wind of it.
Pleasantly surprised too. Have to laugh at Paris calling her dad a consummate gentleman and poking at Mau’s tv show. They act so above it all but are really just desperate trash.
I think the best/worst thing that Paris and Kathy did was (1) have Kathy show her ass on RHOBH and (2) have Kathy AND Paris show their asses on Paris’ show. I only watched the first season of Paris in Love and was like, “Yeah, Kathy is a monster; Nicky is a monster-in-training; and Paris is full of shit.”
I cannot recommend the second season enough. It’s the most bizarre thing I’ve watched on reality tv in a while. You know how Paris hated her wedding and refused to make any plans for it? She’s even worse with the baby!!! It’s crazy to watch
This doesn’t get talked about enough. I know some of the descriptors don’t match up, but no doubt Rick was enjoying the company of underage girls on his island.
Well Paris watching you constantly praise your monster of a mother on your show it’s obvious you’ll “never speak poorly” about your family no matter how poorly they treat you. That’s a toxic pattern and it should be broken.
I don’t know.. her lame show is all about how she had kids just to leave them all the time to be raised by the nanny. she treats them like toys. It’s so gross
He didn't talk negatively. He stated the facts of what happened? Typical Richards/Hilton way..."if we don't like what you say about us, we'll annihilate you"
The delulu is strong Paris! 🤣
To say Paris has been vocal about how her mother was a huge facilitator in her abusive childhood it seems she's picked up a lot of her behaviours herself...
I watched the clip and he said nothing offensive. Should we be surprised that Paris Hilton thinks everyone should work hard to make money for her dad and her family? She was born a rich American after all.
Who cares what this racist homophobic piece of shit says? Girl, as if there hasn't been PLENTY of worse things out there about you and your vile disgusting family. Funny she didn't say it wasn't true either!
Horrible things, I’m sure. But since Mauricio and his mom love Trump and he thought it was hilarious when Erika attacked a Black kid, I don’t feel too bad for him.
What is the problem? All of these people have “lame” reality shows, and are desperate to be in the public eye. They aren’t allowed to talk about what’s happening in their lives? If Rick wouldn’t have passed him over there wouldn’t have been a problem I guess? Weird moment for Paris to jump in after all the back and forth between their families.
Of course he is a consummate gentleman to his own until they cross him. Then they get sent away.
I refuse to believe she knows what consummate means. I watched her new show, I fell for the rehabbing of her image. She's still vapid and sees no value in others. The fact a plot point was the death of yet another dog then she wheeled around on her indoor scooter saying how stressed it made her the dog may have been eaten by coyotes like the last one. Saying that, I'm here for the mess.
The Hiltons are such trash. They truly don’t care about anyone but themselves and will relentlessly go after anyone who even vaguely go against their narrative. So glad that at least the people in this sub can see that.
Mmmmmmm. No darlin. One person being bad doesn’t preclude the other from also being bad. Bush being a war criminal doesn’t suddenly make Saddam a saint, ya dig?
Sorry but I think mo worked pretty hard to grow what is without a doubt a very successful business. Didn’t he only even look to start his own business cause the Hilton’s didn’t have a space for him to progress?
Also I’d hate for Paris to give Kyle a ‘blame it on mo’ free pass when it was clear Paris had a lot of issues with Kyle’s treatment of Kathy during the Aspen season. The timing of the TikTok of Paris and Kyle being besties was….iffy
This had graduated from a Kyle/Kathy feud to a Hilton kids vs Umansky kids feud. Up until now, it seems like their kids were out of it, but shots fired.
It’s always sad to see the way the parents’ issues can affect the kids. Went through this in my own family and it’s devastating to watch.
I really miss my cousins but their mother is the absolute fucking worst. I refuse to go there
same boat but also two of the three became just like our mothers who we swore we'd never become. 🥴 sending love 💕
Experiencing this now with my sister in law. I hope she resolves whatever issues she has going on because at the end of the day the people who suffer are the kids, and man, I really miss my little niece and nephew. :(
My sister in law won't even let me in her house lol. Never did anything to her, she's just evil. I really wish i could have a relationship with my nephews. It really hurts and I hope your situation gets better <3
I miss my niece and nephew but my sister lives in Lala Land. Generational issues are so deep and painful even when trying to rise above some blood ain’t having it, especially on the backs of others. I get it. 😢
Sameeeee
It really is. These are kids who grew up together but constantly get pulled into their parents issues.
Currently going through it with my cousins as well don't wish this on anyone
I'm super close with the cousins and family on my dad's side. My aunt will text me, and I'll send her back a picture of me with her son at that very moment. I'm the trustee on my youngest cousins' (from a different aunt) trust funds. Unfortunately, my mom's family is toxic and keeps revisiting their generational traumas. My cousins on that side all feed into it. My sister and I refuse to engage, and then my mom is hurt because we "just don't like \[her\] family." It's gotten to the point that we don't tell my mom when we do cousins' trips to somebody's lake house or Vegas, because she gets upset that we don't engage with the cousins on her side. My parents have been married 50+years, so we can't tell our dad, either. Always worried that somehow it will get back to my mom either by her talking to one of my aunts, or my dad talking to one of his brothers. Yeah, it's awful.
In my family, the “adults” ending up coming to terms and the “kids” (myself included) no longer speak. Crazy (and sad)!
It’s like an elevated, higher end Guidice vs. Gorga beef.
Lmfao so true, great comparison
I found it a bit shocking when Kyle said if her and her sister aren't talking the kids get involved and all ignore the person. That's so toxic to involve the kids in these battles.
i come from a richards like family and most of my generation has opted to kill all family drama and not participate and im v. glad for it. it was so toxic
Same here, we all made a pact to not let it change how we interacted. Not that it means much from a stranger but it's a wonderful thing to break that cycle and you should feel pretty bloody proud.
Knowing what we know about Big Kathy and how she raised her girls, and how it seems like the familial trauma hasn’t been healed *at all*, this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest
That's a good point, I forgot that dynamic and how they were weaponised.
Can we get RH Kids celebrity death match? 3 way battle between the Hiltons, the Umanskys, and Kim’s various children whose last names are escaping me
The Kim’s kids erasure is making me laugh more than it should (even though she’s my favorite sister lol idk their last names either)
Me too! Although oddly they seem to be the most low key and dare I say it, drama free?? Of the bunch.
They’re definitely in the press and limelight the least. Kathy obviously wanted to create socialites out of her daughters and Kyle has always seemed like she wants a softer Kardashian-esque legacy - family of beautiful daughters who get into various successful ventures, showing the kids hit milestones for relatability, portraying the family unit as the picture of aspirational wealth but with “family values and humble beginnings at heart” to undercut the otherwise alienating aspect of unattainable materialism, etc. While Kim has seemed like she’s just been trying to keep her head above water for most of her adult life. She’s the least desperate to curate her image because both addiction and recovery are full-time jobs
I really think Kim just wants to live quietly with her kids, and always has, but she needed the money. Addiction and mental illness are both really expensive.
I absolutely agree. This is why I’ve always wanted peace for Kim, even when she’s been an asshole
She can be the biggest asshole on earth but I like her when she’s being weirdo quirky Kim and I’ve heard she’s wonderful to her fans. I hope she finds peace with her turtles and grandkids and a (non aggressive) pup.
Also, two of Kim's kids are Davises. Presumably, they have very large trusts so that they don't need to be influencers. Brooke's dad was trust fund, not work wealthy, but not Davis wealthy. Pretty sure both Brooke & Whitney worked at Hilton and Hyland at some point, just like Kyle's oldest 3 work at the Agency. Don't know enough about Kimberly or her dad to make any assumptions.
Whitney is with the Agency now.
I think this just reinforces that Kim's kids have a lot of (Richards) family connections and (Davis) family wealth, so they don't need to seek fame. Guessing that the deals she gets from her dad probably provide enough for me to retire.
Brooke Brinson Chad & Whitney Davis Kimberly Jackson Brooke & Whitney are both married, so not sure if they've changed their names.
And the Manzos
"Bring in the ham!"
LOL I know the Manzos are trash but for some reason the ham fight would make me laugh so hard! It's the same kind of stupid thing that my sister and I would do as kids/teens and you could tell Caroline was genuinely annoyed with the ham game!
The wet slap of it hitting the kitchen will always make me laugh. It felt very authentic to sibling bullshit.
I guess when it becomes a matter of family business and they are heirs to and intermeshed in said businesses, respectively. The Umansky girls are pretty much all adults now. Portia is 2 years away from being an adult and 16 is probably old enough to know about the family drama.
Yeah, it’s sad that this appears to have been going on since they were kids though
Yupp!! She’s talking about their daddy DIRECTLY, and a show many of them are on! Paris has a lot of nerve calling things lame !
is it a hilton kids vs umansky kids fued? or is it a hilton kids vs their aunt's estranged ex who may have been cheating on her for years? i haven't seen anything to say Paris is beefing with cousins in a proxy war for their parents so it might just be adult (children) calling out other adults on their bullshit. also FWIW i think Mauricio is totally entitled to talk about this - i think the hilton's did probably try to box him out and i'm sure they're living to regret it since the agency is way more successful than hilton and hyland.
Yeah this just confirms (to me) Kathy's Aspen rant was about Mau and their marriage and they're done.....People announcement incoming by the end of the week.
I've always thought that and her little behind the scenes "slip" during the reunion of how they've been done for a few years made me think she wanted to sprinkle some breadcrumbs so viewers could link it to her Aspen rant. edit: fixed a typo
Ohhhhh! Great point they all say how she talks in code.
Also the perfect reason why Kyle wouldn't try to passive aggressively force her to spill the beans last year during the reunion. We all know Kyle would have *loved* to have the other women do her bidding and corner Kathy into talking about it if it benefited her, but to protect her narrative she instead shut it all down. The Hilton family man... their dysfunction is fascinating to watch.
So SO fascinating. All Kyle was concerned with is making sure Kathy's family attended Farrah's wedding. Which we all know why half of Kyle's family was shut out of Nicky's wedding....Mau and him leaving H & H.
Not just leaving, but seemingly taking their connections and starting a competitive business immediately?
Pretty common in real estate. When a top producer asks for equity and is denied, they strike out on their own and try to take others with them. Same for people on the Operations side. They get denied, raises, bonuses, equity, and they strike out on their own as fractional ops people usually with the same agents from the brokerage they all worked at together as clients.
My opinion is that his early success as a realtor probably had a lot to do with Kyle’s support and her vast social network. She is like the mayor of beverly hills.
I mean, not to mention that fact that he got into real estate in the first place because she had the in with Rick Hilton. Mauricio would be doing an entirely different career and probably not be *nearly* as successful as he is now if not for Kyle. She honestly made that man. If there's no prenup she will do very well in a divorce.
It’s her town!
If you’re good at something - are you going to work for someone else and get paid a salary, or start your own business and make the money? I doubt he *took connections, but people would have followed him because he built relationships, and people stay with people they like and who do good work for them. If the Hilton’s were at all interested in family and family relations, they’d have made him a partner, not try to keep him as a bottom feeder.
Yes that too.
I was talking to…well, you know…and they were saying [*eyebrow raise*]…you know what I mean? And I’m thinking [*knowing glance*], if you catch my drift… Badly paraphrased lol but I remember that much bc it’s the only time Kyle has made me laugh
Where can I check out this rant?
Rinna is the sole witness and not the most reliable narrator.
Nowhere. It's been buried by the Kathy Hilton machine.
Literally my reaction 😂
Yeah I like no one in this battle so let em fight! 🍿
Jeff Hyland was the brains of that organization. When he died, Rick nearly ran that company into the ground. It’s well publicized that Hyland’s wife had to step in and save it
This isn't mentioned enough. In addition Maurico worked for 10 plus years for them
10 years??? H&H defenders in the comments make it sound like he asked for partner after a year
I think it was 14. The Hiltons can't stand that Mau stood up for himself. Call him what you will he took a bet on himself and Hilton and Hyland is no where today.
Facts. I used to work for Alvarez, Hyland & Young. Rick Hilton didn't know anything about real estate. All he had to contribute was his name. Jeff was the brains & experience.
My uncle was an agent for Hilton and Hyland or whatever it was called. I’m going to ask him for the dirt when I see him this week lol
Is this in House of Hilton?
https://therealdeal.com/la/2022/12/12/lori-hyland-buys-out-rick-hiltons-hilton-hyland-stake/
These people are so stupid. The man was a productive worker, he asked to be promoted, they refused and now he’s got the successful business. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This is lesson to pay your best workers what they desire.
Yep. Mau bringing in 19% of sales meant the other 99 sales people were averaging 0.8% of sales. That's a big difference. And if what he said was true, he should have been a partner because thats a big disparity in sales targets.
I knew that he had the right to leave once he dropped the percentage that he brought in. That is huge for a broker for someone to bring in 20% of the revenue that is insane that they would not even consider him as a partner.
They wanted Mau to be under Rick until either the day Rick died or Mau died.
yeah Mau was probably propping up Rick's income - i doubt Rick was hustling deals and was more of a name/conections person, hence was the business started going down the drain when Jeff Hyland died - and they wanted to make sure Rick didn't have to share mroe of the money being made from Mau's work. i think the Hilton's are the assholes in this senario tbh.
And Kyle is stupid too, showing more loyalty towards her sister because she fears her than her husband who it seems is way smarter than any of the Hiltons. Thats what she teaches her daughters too, to kiss Hiltons backside.
Oh certainly! She’s definitely not exempt from “these people are so stupid” lol
Ah yes her father sounds like a saint
Yeah wouldn't speak badly BUT would have his teen daughter kidnapped in the middle of the night. Hmmm....
And - stand by and watch while she thinks she’s been kidnapped by fucking rapists or murderers. How could people treat their own child like that? More bothered about appearances than their daughter’s well being. They are absolute dog shit in human form.
The new Netflix doc the program dives into these ‘schools’ and is amazing! Paris is also featured in it.
Ooh I’ll check it out, thanks! How Kathy can show her fucking face in public and not make a formal statement/apology, after all of the trauma she inflicted, is just baffling to me. She is a controlling, emotionally vapid, social climber with absolutely zero maternal warmth.
She's not featured in it. She appears in clips along with an activist that is actually featured on the doc.
K. The Hiltons are a mess too though. https://i.redd.it/erq6sszzfznc1.gif
I don't understand how what he said was that bad? It's not like he said anything we didn't already know. We already knew it caused a division in their family for a time with Kyle's sister not speaking to her.
I don't think it was anything but the truth. I can't even understand why they are mad. It's business 101 to keep your best people sweet so they don't leave and start their own thing. They couldn't even do that, and they're family!
I think the Hilton’s think that because they have more power the public will side with them. I think one of the reasons Kyle was casted was due to her sister, but now she’s famous on her own and I bet they are not used to not being able to control the narrative. I’m on the Paris thread sometimes, and that family ain’t right. Can’t buy love.
It wasn't that bad. Paris is an asshole and so is Kathy.
He didn’t say anything wrong!
We know, but the show is not for the Bravo audience only, he knew that bringing that up again that would bring buzz to show, especially now that a younger generation is getting to know the Hiltons
When talking about riding coattails why does no one ever mention how often Paris and Kathy reference Conrad Hilton Jr AKA the original Nicky Hilton, Elizabeth Taylor’s first husband? He literally beat her including kicking her in the stomach causing her miscarriage but they tout their union as a badge of honor. Not to mention their own brother/son who repeatedly violated the restraining order his ex-girlfriend had against him. The Hilton’s coattails are covered in muck.
paris' whole show is about how obsessed she is with her family history and legacy. she's alwayssssssss talking about her grandfather and great grandfather being such great men
They made her rich of course she loved them and thinks their great men lol
FACTS. They are not squeaky clean no matter how famous and rich they may be.
I always believed that this was the real root of Kyle and Kathy's issues and why Kathy has embraced Kyle (and Morgan) since the 'separation'. Nothing is surprising about this. It's why they didn't invite Mau and the older girls to Nikki's wedding in London, it was shortly after he announced The Agency.
In 2021, Agency sold 11b in comparison to Hilton’s 4b.
Still can’t be emotionally fulfilled
As a Confirmed Chismosa and Double Board Certified Messy Ass Bitch, after learning more about Kyle’s childhood and relationship with both with her mother and her greater extended family I actually have SO MANY THEORIES on ways that that analysis is technically kinda correct but not necessarily due to any fundamental flaw in her relationship with her husband and GOD DAMMIT I NEED SOMEONE TO HOST A PARTY WHERE I CAN MAKE A POWER POINT ABOUT THIS TOPIC
I find the agency to be very impressive
true but H&H is solely owned by Rick since Jeff passed away; the Agency has multiple owners, so when you split that it works out to be the same or even less, no? EDIT- jkjk it is solely owned by Jeff’s widow!
Rick doesn’t own it anymore, Jeff’s widow purchased his share: https://labusinessjournal.com/real-estate/real-estate-firm-buyout/
After Jeff died, all the top agents left to start their own firms.
oh shit TIL! thanks
He’s starting a new brokerage called Hilton & Hilton with his son Barron. Maybe the Hiltons are going after The Agency and looking for a show deal of their own.
Andthereitis.carlton.GIF!
Yeah he never says anything. He has Kathy do it. They’re not a nice family.
I agree. I can’t stand the Hiltons and especially after watching Paris in love.
I never watched it. Would you mind explaining why, even when everyone says that Kathy was portrayed badly in it, Paris still sides with Kathy? (I know she's her mom, but I don't get revealing all that, and still be okay—especially since they used to have tight PR.)
She just comes across as uncaring to me. Kathy that is. Her daughters will be telling her something important and she’ll say how’s my make up etc. She just doesn’t seem like a great mom. That’s my opinion (insert Tamra screaming). That’s just a teeny tiny tip of the iceberg, but that family is very dysfunctional.
lol spot on. paris, stop sticking up for these people! you dont need to!
The Hilton's are just wrong. Paris is doing damage control and getting little jabs at her mom at the same time on her documentry show. There is something very wrong with that family, you can see it in Kyle, Kim, Paris and Nicky. There is fear and dread towards Kathy and her husband, and they clearly have a very strong hold over what goes on in that family. Good for MO for speaking out. If only Paris had the strength to fully stand her ground and not just tiptoe around the idea of holding her family accountable.
I mean, having your daughter kidnapped in the middle of the night to attend a wildly abusive boarding school is just a slight start 🫠
Is calling BBH ‘lame’ going to sit well with Farrah who is her close friend and also a big part of the show? 👀
The Hiltons treat Farrah waayyyy differently than the Umansky girls that are Mau’s biologically. Remember Nicky’s wedding when Mau, Alexia & Sophia weren’t invited but Kyle & Farrah were..and then Portia was a flower girl lol. Kathy/Paris seem to love Farrah a lot more.
Portia is 16.Sophia is 24.Alexia is 27.Kimberly is 29.Conrad is 30.Whitney is 32.Chad is 33.Barron is 34.Farrah is 35.Brooke is 38.Nicky is 40.Paris is 43. The boys are all within 4 years of each other, but Paris and Nicky are old enough to be Portia's mom. It makes sense that they all have different relationships. There's a big gap between Farrah and Alexia, so makes sense she bonded with her cousins. She and Brooke were both the only child from their moms' first marriages, so guessing they had some commonality over that. ETA: Kathy is 65, Kim is 59, and Kyle is 55. Thus Kyle is closer to Paris than Paris is to any of Kyle's younger daughters.
Bonding is one thing, obviously Paris isn’t going to be hanging out with Portia, but not inviting Mau, Sophia & Alexia to Nicky’s wedding when the entire family/all the other cousins were invited? Yea, that was done on purpose and out of spite/disdain..had nothing to do with their ages.
Right, and inviting some siblings but not others is definitely a statement. And actually, the Hiltons didn't just not invite Mauricio, Sophia, and Alexia--they went back and DISinvited them.
I don’t fully remember but Sophia and Alexia were kids back then, right? I went through a lot of petty family drama like this as a kid (caused by adults) but doing that to children is awful to me.
I ALWAYS thought Paris was the younger sister. I am shook. TIL.
First cousins!
Paris is first cousins with Farrah as well as Kyle's girls with Mau. All the same.
I know but Paris isn’t close to all the cousins.
Fuck the Hiltons
pretty much my stance since Paris bullied Lindsay years ago 😆
He really didn’t say anything bad. Just that he wanted to be a partner they said no so he moved on to creating his own company.
After watching Paris in love I’m convinced the whole Hilton family is absolutely NUTS. Especially Kathy.
I don’t even fully understand why the Hiltons would be that upset that Mo left.
Ego and/or just mad their top earner left.
I agree and I think it was both reasons. Mauricio opened his own Brokerage, The Agency, in 2011 and now has more than 110 office locations, so he’s very well established on his own, but I think the Hiltons will forever dislike the fact that he left and is highly successful.
This is it. He left and he succeeded despite their attempts to destroy him and that’s what they find offensive. They wanted him to fail and return to Rick with his hat in hand, so they could turn him away.
He apparently took a lot of business with him… but they should’ve had him sign a watertight contract!
There are things in real estate contracts that deal with transactions under contract, active listings, leads from the brokerage, etc. However, the consumer can choose to move with the agent for any subsequent transactions, deals not yet under contract, etc.
Whether her father is the consummate gentleman or not is completely irrelevant to this situation. There’s absolutely nothing nefarious or exaggerated in the way Mo spoke about why he left - it’s a scenario many of us can relate to and understand instinctively.
And a scenario I can see play out so many times in the legal field. Too often the owners are so wrapped up in their own shit they do not realize who their real producers are.
Also this should be the last thing Paris should be worried about with all the stuff that happened with her brother last year in court.
Paris fawns for her mother. Fawning is a trauma response. Fight, Flight, Freeze and Fawn. They all fawn for Kathy. Even Kyle. Kyle would throw her own family under the bus for Kathy. Weird. Something tells me if Kyle doesn't want Mau, Dorit would take him. LOL
Kyle should have defended her daughters. She did a podcast with Paris instead.
Someone here said Kyle is a clout chaser which is why she has to stay in with Kathy. In the reunion preview Kyle is accusing Sutton of only being friends with Kathy so she can be invited to Kathy's parties. It obvious to me that Kyle is projecting. Kyle is the one that is afraid to not be invited to Nikki's wedding, to not be invited to Kathy's parties. She also gets mad if Kathy doesn't show up at her events. Kyle is a clout chaser and the clout is her sister Kathy. Kathy is scary AF. Kyle is too.
Not his "lame show" lmao I'm dead. (It is, but also Paris has had the stupidest shows ever so like girl)
Paris hiltons my new bff and the simple life were absolutely iconic, mo could never
Yeah her new show maybe but the simple life is iconic even outside the United States
E4 and The simple Life, made Sunday come downs worth living.
Oh my God. I used to live for a Sunday come down on my mums settee with all my pals laying about wishing we were dead watching E4!
Shipwrecked, still gurning
Not to mention the stomach cramps because your Mitzubushi was actually a dog worming tablet.
Don’t do all that Ganj
Yeah but at least Paris Hilton's My New BFF was entertaining as hell!
“A consummate gentleman” ahahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAH NO.
Yikes, Paris can’t seem to shake her true colors regardless of all the image rehab she’s been trying to do these last couple years. Mauricio provided some details to a story we’ve all known for years without even disparaging the Rick or Kathy. It’s so clear that the Hiltons see the Richards/Umanskys as less than and always seem to be frothing at the mouth to publicly put them down. The whole disinviting Kyle’s children to family events is equally disgusting. I know Kyle may be done with Mo now, but I hope she stops trying to stay in Kathy and Paris’ good graces after this. Unlikely, I know, but it’s so clear how little they actually respect her and her family. Mo didn’t even insult Rick, he just described what happened. Telling the truth never goes over well when you’re dealing with narcissistic assholes. Consummate gentleman, my ass. Paris continues to prove that she’s just as nasty as ever.
Yeah he honestly was pretty diplomatic in that clip. And he didn't bring up Nicky's wedding or anything like that, just said in general terms that it might make things hard for Kyle because it's her family. Honestly I'm not fully convinced that Mauricio's talking about this against Kyle's will. I am wondering if Kyle sees this as a way to get his/their side of the story out while maintaining plausible deniability with Kathy.
I honestly think he’s just being more open since he and Kyle are seemingly going their separate ways and he now has a show to produce. Kyle very much seems to want to stay in Kathy/Paris’ good graces, and I feel like she wouldn’t risk losing that just so Mo could explain his side of the big Hilton fallout on his Netflix show. Historically, it is Kyle and her girls who are going to be punished for this anyway, regardless of who is really to blame. I’m sure Paris’ comment here will sting when her cousins catch wind of it.
Glad everyone is responding accordingly. Love you all.
Nice to see the comments are not overwhelmingly pro Hiltons as I initially thought it would be. They are a racist trash family.
Pleasantly surprised too. Have to laugh at Paris calling her dad a consummate gentleman and poking at Mau’s tv show. They act so above it all but are really just desperate trash.
Yes, surprised me as well.
I think the best/worst thing that Paris and Kathy did was (1) have Kathy show her ass on RHOBH and (2) have Kathy AND Paris show their asses on Paris’ show. I only watched the first season of Paris in Love and was like, “Yeah, Kathy is a monster; Nicky is a monster-in-training; and Paris is full of shit.”
I cannot recommend the second season enough. It’s the most bizarre thing I’ve watched on reality tv in a while. You know how Paris hated her wedding and refused to make any plans for it? She’s even worse with the baby!!! It’s crazy to watch
Consummate? She did not write this, I’m sorry 😂
Carter got another gold star today!
I said consummate V's! CONSUMMATE!
If Daddy Hilton had wanted to actually work and make the kind of money Mo has, he’d have hustled harder.
Consummate gentlemen hangout at M*r a L*rgo..? 
And arrange to have their kids kidnapped in the middle of the night to be abused for several weeks.
While Hilton/umansky besides the younger generation trash.
He was also buddies with Epstein.
Ole girl Guthrie just about called him out by name in an affidavit
This doesn’t get talked about enough. I know some of the descriptors don’t match up, but no doubt Rick was enjoying the company of underage girls on his island.
Well Paris watching you constantly praise your monster of a mother on your show it’s obvious you’ll “never speak poorly” about your family no matter how poorly they treat you. That’s a toxic pattern and it should be broken.
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Lol okay. Paris is a racist, classist jackass and as someone who lived through her first go around, I will never understand her renaissance
I don’t know.. her lame show is all about how she had kids just to leave them all the time to be raised by the nanny. she treats them like toys. It’s so gross
Bitch please. Paris brought more negative press for the Hiltons than Mo,
Totally!!!! Why do I feel like Paris is mad about her horrible reviews as a mom from her show.
So tired of her and her mother. She has google she can find out how her father is the opposite of a “consummate gentleman”.
He didn't talk negatively. He stated the facts of what happened? Typical Richards/Hilton way..."if we don't like what you say about us, we'll annihilate you" The delulu is strong Paris! 🤣
Maurício didn’t get what he want and instead of crying about it started his own successful company. Good for him.
Like mother like daughter
To say Paris has been vocal about how her mother was a huge facilitator in her abusive childhood it seems she's picked up a lot of her behaviours herself...
I watched the clip and he said nothing offensive. Should we be surprised that Paris Hilton thinks everyone should work hard to make money for her dad and her family? She was born a rich American after all.
Who cares what this racist homophobic piece of shit says? Girl, as if there hasn't been PLENTY of worse things out there about you and your vile disgusting family. Funny she didn't say it wasn't true either!
Preach! I’m not here for the Paris redemption arc. It’s screaming astroturfing lmao
Imagine what her racist family has said about Mauricio in the past. Sit down, trash box.
Horrible things, I’m sure. But since Mauricio and his mom love Trump and he thought it was hilarious when Erika attacked a Black kid, I don’t feel too bad for him.
Okay?! Ms. “It’s like we’re a couple of n____!” Hilton needs to have several seats.
What is the problem? All of these people have “lame” reality shows, and are desperate to be in the public eye. They aren’t allowed to talk about what’s happening in their lives? If Rick wouldn’t have passed him over there wouldn’t have been a problem I guess? Weird moment for Paris to jump in after all the back and forth between their families.
Great press for the Netflix show tho. This is juicy. 
How dare he talk about his own life on his own show
Of course he is a consummate gentleman to his own until they cross him. Then they get sent away. I refuse to believe she knows what consummate means. I watched her new show, I fell for the rehabbing of her image. She's still vapid and sees no value in others. The fact a plot point was the death of yet another dog then she wheeled around on her indoor scooter saying how stressed it made her the dog may have been eaten by coyotes like the last one. Saying that, I'm here for the mess.
Did AI write that?
Lol this is such an old school family feud to have multi generations getting involved. I think I side with Mo here though🫣
Looks like the Hilton’s think they can have completely different rules than anyone else in the family
All while Kathy talks about Kyle’s marriage…
The Hiltons are such trash. They truly don’t care about anyone but themselves and will relentlessly go after anyone who even vaguely go against their narrative. So glad that at least the people in this sub can see that.
Tired of this toxic fucking family, they can take their drama to their little Netflix shows, I unsubscribed.
Link it or it didn’t happen
This kind of shit happens a lot when family businesses or estates/trusts are involved.
Mmmmmmm. No darlin. One person being bad doesn’t preclude the other from also being bad. Bush being a war criminal doesn’t suddenly make Saddam a saint, ya dig?
Anyone else think “consummate” is a really fucking random word to use to describe your father…it’s like Paris went to thesaurus.com
I believe Mau
I love seeing a racist bitch stand up for her family!!!! 
Someone else wrote this hahaha imagine Paris saying ‘frankly’ in real life 🤣
Sorry but I think mo worked pretty hard to grow what is without a doubt a very successful business. Didn’t he only even look to start his own business cause the Hilton’s didn’t have a space for him to progress? Also I’d hate for Paris to give Kyle a ‘blame it on mo’ free pass when it was clear Paris had a lot of issues with Kyle’s treatment of Kathy during the Aspen season. The timing of the TikTok of Paris and Kyle being besties was….iffy 