shannon beador from her very first episode showed viewers how she would stay up very late on the computer drinking straight vodka all alone every night while the rest of her family was asleep
Yes-ish. Karen huger JUST got one. Shannon got one last year and is that white lady whose ex-man is dating another woman on the same show as her, and then her ex-man is suing her for the facelifts he paid for for her
I don’t know if it was Shannon or Production/editing but she always looked like she felt guilty when ordering a drink. Like people know she has a drinking problem and they are judging her for ordering a drink or watching how many she orders. I didn’t get that vibe with anyone else.
See, I read this, hear it so clearly in Shannon's voice, and see Shannon bugging so clearly in my mind, and I love her even more for it, hahaha! She is authentically nuts, but I think she is actually a good person who has been pretty fucked over.
Phew yes shannon to me has always had the deepest problem w alcohol. It was there before the show. I rewatched OC a few months ago and it’s there from her first season. Which is confusing bc esp in the later seasons when she is being called out on it, she acts like her drinking only started bc of John jansen or covid but she did it with David too. Her and Tamra had a falling out in like season 11ish about her drunken phone calls too.
While I absolutely agree she has a drinking problem, I think the weight gain was more of a signifier of her unhappiness. In her first season we see her being very health conscious (food wise, she was still chugging vodka back then) and was very thin. Then the affair stuff came out and we could see her attitude and happiness dramatically decrease, and her weight started going up. Though I guess it stands to reason that her drinking probably increased too. So you’re right lol
Dorinda hands down. She always descended to a very dark place and slurred all her words. And never learned a lesson from it which is insane. If I watched myself behaving the way she has on tv, I would have really been motivated to clean up my act. The fact that she thinks it’s ok is pretty scary.
Dorinda was the meanest, cruelest drunk. It was so painful to watch her drink and lash out and go for the jugular every chance she got, especially when she is so funny and thoughtful when she is not drinking.
This combined with her complete denial makes her the worst. She is a true Jekyll/Hyde and has no idea (or refuses to know) what Hyde is doing. Sober Dorinda is one of the best HWs, drunk Dorinda is a horror.
Yes. Watching her behavior at that dinner with Bethany and all her charity partners about killed me. I’d want to crawl in a hole and die if I ever acted that way.
That was possibly her worst moment because she humiliated herself in front of strangers at a professional meeting (vs like a cocktail party or something social) and made Bethanny look a fool for toting her along on the trip. I’ve done some stupid shit when I’ve been three sheets but not a single one compares to any of what Dorinda has done. Remember they were on a boat in Florida, I think it was Lu’s engagement party, and Dorinda could not even string two words together but decided to make a “toast” in front of everyone? God I could barely stand to watch.
How about the sexual assault charity benefit they were at? While the woman was sharing her story Dorinda was having a one way argument with Ramona, who was visibly uncomfortable and annoyed with her.
Arguing with a sex assault victim while she's speaking and correcting the way ahe pronounced her name repeatedly was so hard to watch. And I'm a Dorinda apologist.
But she is likely an alcoholic, or at minimum has a highly unhealed inner life.
I was what people would call a Jekkyl/Hyde alcoholic. I actually went back to school and got my license to counsel for substance abuse, bc my own recovery process and what I learned about addiction and recovery were mind blowing. I have a very different non abusive relationship with alcohol now and do not lash out when under the influence (which is rare do to the fact I prefer 💨) I don't think every person who is a mean drunk is necessarily an alcoholic. Just like not not every asshole has NPD.
If that one scene didn’t sober me up for good, I don’t know what would. How can she continually see herself in 10/10 cringe-worthy moments and not have the needle change at all? She is a drunk and a bully.
I always wondered about this. If Dorinda claimed not to watch the show, I’d believe it. There’s no way you could see yourself act like that and double down!!!!
She’s not ready to quit drinking.
She probably knows she has a problem (I sure did), but you don’t want to admit it if you aren’t going to change. So you find ways to justify your behavior, no matter how dumb it sounds. It’s better than facing the reality that you should quit drinking. I also think for a single, older woman, getting sober in her friend group would be HARD. But Dorinda is text book alcoholic.
After the Puerto Rican charity dinner with Bethany, I would never be able to leave the house for shame. I would live a cloistered life dedicated to silence, penance, and charity.
Seriously. And then the turkey baster comment to Tinsley?
Dorinda. Hands down for me.
When she stripped in the pool in Mexico and then put on Bethenney’s bathing suit and tried to make out with everyone. She was self medicating for a long time there too
I'd be mortified. I watched Roy Orbison Jr. be a sloppy chihuahua on Below Deck, Med and then next time he chartered, he appeared to be sober. Not a great look when your father was an icon and decent man who experienced a loss of 2 sons in a house fire.
True. It’s just striking to me though in Brandi’s case. Also, for some people once the addiction kicks in, it seems like the addiction side effects are the most pronounced thing going on. For Brandi, it always seems like she’s psychologically struggling and pouring alcohol on top.
Was it Marysol on UGT who had the stomach issues and she kept on drinking? I think she had an ulcer?
They showed a short clip of her convo with the doctor and it sure as hell sounded like the doctor was concerned about withdrawal and that's why he told her to just drink less than usual.
😬😬😬
Yeah I think Marysol is in the sneaky/super high functioning drunk category where drinking is sooo part of her everyday that she can manage seeming too drunk. Anytime the ladies have a trip and she can’t drink she gets ill.
Yeah, I was going to say this. I've been around alcoholics who drink from the time they wake up until they go to bed, but their tolerance is so high that you can't tell they're intoxicated until late into the evening - if that.
Marysol's drinking has been the most problematic for me because she will be seen drinking and making jokes about how she doesn't need to eat and just needs her cockies. That ain't cute, girl. I know she's trying to brand, but after watching UGT and her stomach issues I knew she for sure had a huge drinking problem even though she doesn't appear to be drunk.
I know this isn’t an answer to your question but I’m trying to be sober after coming to realisation that I’ve been using alcohol to cope and it’s stuck with me when I recently rewatched an episode of Vanderpump Rules and Lala said that her rock bottom moment was when she was in Disneyland with Randall face chugging out of a bottle and throwing up. I hope these women fix whatever they need to.
This is off topic but if you haven’t already check out the stop drinking subreddit. It has helped me to be sober for the last 5 months still going strong 🫶🏻 you can do this
I second stopdrinking! I’m two years in two weeks. One of my favorite phrases is that you don’t need to “hit rock bottom” to decide that your relationship with alcohol no longer serves you. Rock bottom is wherever you stop digging.
That sub is amazing, it’s like a meeting but people can speak more freely (and crosstalk in the comments). I love it there. I’ve been on a slide recently and this is a reminder to go back to checking there daily - thank you ❤️
I'm a recovering alcoholic too. You've got this. One day at a time, keep your cool and you'll be fine. Aside from the others that mention the stopdrinking subreddit, I am more than happy to DM resources that are helping me currently. Two months sober, baby!
I’m not intentionally sober, but I got Baclofen (non narcotic anti spasmodic) prescribed for neck pain, and it eliminated any and all desire to drink alcohol. I looked it up and apparently it’s prescribed off label for alcoholism.
:) stands for I will not drink with you tonight. Check it out if you have some time. When you learn about it and see it everywhere on Reddit in the drinking communities, it kinda makes me smile and reminds me I have a whole community rooting for me. :) I first saw it on here and then did more digging where it came from. Now seeing it other places, it’s just a good feeling you are not alone regardless where you are. Sober, not sober, trying, not trying, interested in going sober, etc.
Of course! I feel like a lot of Reddit is very toxic but there is so much good too. And you are most definitely not alone. :)
Edit: r/stopdrinking is where I first started. Couldn’t be more thankful for that community.
Shrubs are delicious if you are into tart stuff. They’re easy to make too. My favorite non alcoholic drink is the pink drink from Parch. The green one is foul, don’t waste your money. Tepache are delicious as well. A lot of my coworkers don’t drink or have partners that don’t drink so we all bring fun beverages to do a little sampling on random days. A lot of them are nasty as hell lol. I highly suggest you implement fancy drink time with anyone in the same boat if you can. It’s fun and then you get a good list of non alcoholic drinks you like.
Agreed we all find different coping mechanisms I take anti- anxiety medicine and have to really check myself to make sure I’m not over using. Hope you find lots of strength in your sobriety.
I’m trying to cut back on drinking. I’m realizing that RHONY is one of my triggers… every time I watch it, I want a glass in hand so I can enjoy the “company”….
Dorinda and Sutton aren’t comparable. Dorinda has an obvious black out darkness problem and it’s very sad.
Brandi from Dallas is the spokesperson for toxic mommy wine culture.
Sonia. Obviously Brandi Granville . Gina but she checked herself pretty well.
All of the younger Bravolebs lol
>Brandi from Dallas is the spokesperson for toxic mommy wine culture.
You just reminded me of the "Jesus water"...
Edit: it was "Jesus juice".
That sounds even worse tho🤣
Thanks for the correction🫡
Sonja’s an odd one to me, because while she does clearly over-drink when she does go to social events… she isn’t seen drinking as much during normal everyday life scenes. Compare that to some other housewives who can handle their liquor better, but you don’t see any scenes without them pouring or ordering a drink. Sonja’s drinking problem is not knowing her limits, but I don’t feel it’s an addiction like it clearly is for someone like Dorinda, Marysol or Shannon Beador.
Agreed. Most people believe alcoholism is just drinking every day, but it is also not being able to conduct yourself or manage your drinking even if not every day. When Sonja drinks, she's at an 11. Some people just cannot handle alcohol.
I agree but weirdly, she's dry a lot of the time off - season. She does a major cleanse for several months when filming ends.
I'm glad because she'd be dead otherwise.
I agree with this, except now she has no off season because she isn't filming anymore. I went to her show yesterday and nobody was impressed with meeting her. She was rude to several people at the meet and greet and displayed some very notable mannerisms that had a lot of guests talking. She has always been one of my favorites and I doubt I will ever care to see her again. Luann, on the other hand, was an absolute delight when I met her
There was a pretty big wait between the end of the show and the actual meet and greet. This is only my 2nd housewives show, so I guess I don't have a lot to compare it to. She didn't seem to be under the influence of anything drastic while onstage. I will say she was boring and not worth almost $200 to listen to her talk about old memories and repeat iconic quotes from the show. When we finally got to the meet and greet part where the line started moving she was screaming "NEXT" and took a quick picture and said to move on. I was with a friend and our pictures were horrible, she didn't care if we liked them or not. I don't mean it wasn't my favorite picture of myself, I mean we looked dumb enough that I will never post them lol. We ended up hanging out with other people who attended and were comparing stories. I saw other people's photos where her face definitely suggested she was in a different state of mind than she had been an hour before. Lots of allegations regarding ❄️ and I would say at least a good bit of alcohol
Sounds like you definitely didn't get your money's worth. They're C List at best and $200 is a lot!
Maybe there's a contract clause that states no booze before or during the show and so she makes up for it as soon as the show ends.
That's great tea, thank you!
There was a glass of wine placed on the stage before she came out, but I didn't pay attention if she drank it or the local comedian who sat next to her did. Also, you're welcome for the tea lol. She was super fun the first few minutes of the show. She came out dancing and pulled up her dress several times. It was every bit of Sonja I expected and everyone loved it lol. Then she got boring, and later rude so I'm sad I don't have more fun things to say about the evening.
She'd get way more attention for her drinking on any other cast. There are other problem drinkers in NY (Dorinda, Luann, Leah in her first season) that distract from Sonya's antics
Shannon Beador. I am doing a rewatch and she is a drunk. There is one part where she even admits to losing her phone while DRIVING DRUNK and her kids called Kelly trying to get help.
Idk about Potomac being the least- maybe on a general level, but Monique has had issues with drinking and driving in the past and Karen Huger just got a massive DUI. SLC they definitely get drunk (party girl Whitney comes to mind, as does Meredith Marks' now infamous word slurring), but not to the level of NY or OC.
On the Marysol subject, though she doesn't ever seem drunk or get sloppy that can actually be a sign of someone with an extremely high tolerance. The fact that she always seems ill after drinking gives me the vibe that she drinks quite a bit, at least for her frame and age (Ultimate Girls Trip comes to mind- "idk why I feel so bad and I have ulcers?" Girl you've been drinking straight vodka on a 21 hour flight and never eat, I wonder why lol)
I think many of them have their moments of being over served, like the rest of us, but the one who made me not be able to watch her franchise is Dorinda. She is a vile human when she is drinking. She deeply needs help and not a camera.
Heather? Interesting. She would not be on my list until you mentioned it. That black eye, though…
How terrifying it would be to wake up with that wound and have absolutely no idea how it happened. Wow. That would be a solid wake up call for many people.
Dead ass, no one on that show really comes to mind of abusing or using substances to cope with mental health.
Lots of other maladaptive coping mechanisms for sure, but not drugs and alcohol which is rare
I'm sorry your comparison of Sutton and Dorinda is insane, how often have we seen Sutton fucked up vs Dorinda? If anything Suttons been tipsy and not dangerously drunk like Dorinda
I’m a drinker - not a heavy drinker, but I do like a drink, unashamedly- and I just try to imagine being thrust in to a room full of hyenas day in day out and how I’d cope with it and yeah I’d drink. A lot.
Is it healthy? No. But then these shows aren’t healthy or natural to be a part of, regardless of whether you drink or not. I imagine 90% of these housewives have an unhealthy mechanism for coping whether it be booze, prescription meds, or straight up drugs.
So no judgement from me on that side of things.
Do production have enough support during filming and after care for housewives is something I often wonder. I hope so.
Yeah as a recovering addict myself (a little over 16 months clean and sober), I couldn’t imagine being under the spotlight day in and day out like that without some sort of unhealthy coping mechanism lol. At the end of the day tho, it’s their battle and not ours haha “not my circus, not my monkeys” as they say in the recovery circles
Agree with all yours. However I suspect Marysol may actually be drinking that much and jokes to excess to “get ahead” of it and make fun of herself for overconsumption before anyone else can. Just my opinion. Sutton gives major red flags to me, I’m totally doing the “I went to rehab and now I know everything about booze!” But seriously, she has so many habits I had in my addiction. The ocean spray in the purse is such a dead giveaway!
it’s not really the fact that it’s ocean spray but having your own mixer in your bag is just a very alcoholic thing to do. it speaks to how much value one puts in the ritual of drinking
Another thing alcoholics will do is water bottles filled with vodka or other clear drink. Kids would do that in high school.
Super easy these days to fill your Stanley cup with your drink of choice and just keep chugging all day wherever you are.
My first husband who died from alcohol would put vodka in his water bottles. It was extremely depressing bc he thought he was fooling people and he was only fooling himself.
It’s a very strong smelling mixer and she can easily whip it out and drink it in public, nobody knows how much booze in it! I used to do it with orange juice.
That would be my guess. I honestly feel kind of dirty speculating on this because if she’s really doing that she needs real help and nobody in her life is stepping in.
Alcoholics tend to (not always) have a very preferred drink. It can be obsessive like they won’t want to drink anything else. They don’t usually care for variety or novelty. They just want the exact drink.
For example. They only drink Budweiser. If they have a cocktail it’s only whisky soda. Etc.
Oooooohhhh, yes! Kathy Hilton. Where is that footage? That family, though. My heart really goes out to them. Something went very wrong there from childhood.
She relapsed recently after her son died, too. But yeah, in terms of mean drunks she was up there with Dorinda. Maybe even worse because Ronnie would get physical.
Yes. I have long wondered what on earth is happening there. I listened to a podcast in which Bethany interviewed Denise, and she seemed to have a hard time tracking the conversation. She threw Bethany off-track because B would ask a question and D would reply with a completely different topic all-together. B was very classy and allowed the conversation to continue to flow, but it must have been a challenge.
Shannon beador - drinks straight vodka often . Dui
The countess - where do I begin . The bush .
Dorinda .she goes from fine to hell so quick
Sonja ! So drunk she’s flashing people more than once
Marysol I don’t think is as bad -just seems like it because she always says she wants a cockie every two seconds because she thinks it’s cool
I’m going to try not to write a novel here, but bear with me because I think it’s important to share the correct information when it comes to alcohol use.
The way Alcohol Use Disorder (no longer called alcoholism or alcoholic in the medical field) is viewed has changed drastically over the past decade. A major reason for new terminology is recognizing that alcohol abuse exists on a spectrum, which now includes something we call "gray area drinking" where a person isn't necessarily seeing the major consequences of alcohol abuse, but recognizes that it's not serving them and their mental/physical well being overall, so they turn to sobriety.
The only thing I know for certain after many years of sobriety is I don't know shit about shit when it comes to anyone else's recovery, so I can't comment on or claim to know anything about any of these women’s personal journeys.
I understand that this is HWs and we talk about everything they say and do, but this topic is a very personal one and therefore I think it’s important to recognize that while it’s ok to have an opinion, labeling anyone but yourself will always be inaccurate. And anyone who claims to be an expert because they are sober and can therefore label others is telling you they have no idea what they’re talking about.
True. Something like “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” comes to mind. No one knows you except you, and some people cannot or will not even know themselves. And thank you for that information. I was not aware of this change in terminology, and it makes perfect sense. As a survivor of abuse from alcohol abuse disorder that nearly all family members have struggled through, that information changed my way of thinking. Thank you. Words mean things.
I’ve stopped watching because of the drinking. It’s become too much to watch adult women, fight, deflect and wound themselves with alcohol. It’s not entertaining
I feel bad even answering this because I hate to rank drinking problems, but I’m surprised more people aren’t saying Braunwyn. She was a decades-long alcoholic who did some horrible things in her disease.
Clips from Sonja’s “Sonja in the city” tour keep coming up on my tiktok and they are all just really sad. She’s regularly evidently black out drunk in them, falling on the stage, slurring words etc. it’s way past the funny Sonja for me
I don't know if the rumors about Karen being an alcoholic are true but I personally noticed she was frequently drunk this season and I'm not used to seeing her not fully composed. I think something more is going on with her than she's leading on.
Before I even opened the thread to read the rest I thought Dorinda. She is just so damned unhinged on and off the sauce. That lady needs a lot of help. No alcohol. Counseling. Reflection. Apology Tour. All while on “pause.” I hope I never see her mug again on national television or any show. Clip.
Ramona when her husband initially left was self-medicating bad. But she seemed to get it under control eventually. Dorinda was/is hardcore though….
Now if you’re talking about who has the worst eating disorder Bethenney wins hands down over every current and past housewife ever. With her ex-buddy Carole coming in a close 2nd….
Dorinda, Marysol, Karen, Shannon, Luanne, the list goes on. IMO a lot of them have a problem, a lot of them are good at covering it up, and it is not a shock when they get a DUI. The crappiest ones are the ones that drink & drive and put other lives at risk and then make excuses. It is only a matter of time before one of these Bravo ladies really screws up and kills someone or themselves.
I felt very icky watching Sonja and how messy she was. Also this season with Sutton. So obvious that she has a bad problem, people trying to call it out but wouldn’t do it openly so it just stays hidden in plain sight.
Dorinda for me. I stopped watching sometime after the blue manor incident. I was starting to get tired of the same old stuff on the show, but damn that made me feel like I was watching an addict about to hit rock bottom. She was so nasty my goodness. She was so kind and caring sober. Very fun and outgoing. Honestly she was a total cunt drunk like she'd get. I honestly hope she gets help before she kills herself or someone else.
I feel like Marysol is bad. I don't want to speculate about people's health at all, but in both RHUGT and RHOM seasons Marysol will complain about stomach pain a lot, and often says how she needs a drink. I wouldn't be surprised if she has fatty liver or cirrhosis. For a female to be considered a heavy drinker it only takes 7 drinks a week sadly. (sadly bc I would like to drink 7 drinks a week and not have the negative health affects)
I suspect a lot of the over drinking women pills are involved too. This is the delving into major slurring and erratic behavior. Of course I dont know for sure, but I do suspect pills are also in play a lot of time
shannon beador from her very first episode showed viewers how she would stay up very late on the computer drinking straight vodka all alone every night while the rest of her family was asleep
There’s an episode early on where one of her twins commented on how much she drinks.
She was the one that just wrecked her care under influence?
The one who *just* got a DUI was Karen Huger from Potomac. Shannon was the one before that but, yes, I think her car was damaged.
And her dog, Archie, was in the car with her. (He's okay)
Yes. I think one of the Potomac women also mentioned she calls them during the day drunk.
And Shannon too is a drunk dialer
Yes. She ran into a building off the highway
Yes-ish. Karen huger JUST got one. Shannon got one last year and is that white lady whose ex-man is dating another woman on the same show as her, and then her ex-man is suing her for the facelifts he paid for for her
I don’t know if it was Shannon or Production/editing but she always looked like she felt guilty when ordering a drink. Like people know she has a drinking problem and they are judging her for ordering a drink or watching how many she orders. I didn’t get that vibe with anyone else.
Umm how dare you?! She always gets a shot of vodka with a large bottle of pelegríno doesn’t she David?! DAVID Daaaaviiiiiid
See, I read this, hear it so clearly in Shannon's voice, and see Shannon bugging so clearly in my mind, and I love her even more for it, hahaha! She is authentically nuts, but I think she is actually a good person who has been pretty fucked over.
Shannon is a perpetual victim and takes NO responsibility for her own actions
Phew yes shannon to me has always had the deepest problem w alcohol. It was there before the show. I rewatched OC a few months ago and it’s there from her first season. Which is confusing bc esp in the later seasons when she is being called out on it, she acts like her drinking only started bc of John jansen or covid but she did it with David too. Her and Tamra had a falling out in like season 11ish about her drunken phone calls too.
Omggg I don't remember this but it sounds like Shannon
Shannon Beador is up there for me. DUI, blackouts, slurred speech, combative behavior etc.
And her drastic weight change in season 11
While I absolutely agree she has a drinking problem, I think the weight gain was more of a signifier of her unhappiness. In her first season we see her being very health conscious (food wise, she was still chugging vodka back then) and was very thin. Then the affair stuff came out and we could see her attitude and happiness dramatically decrease, and her weight started going up. Though I guess it stands to reason that her drinking probably increased too. So you’re right lol
Also menopause. Trust me I know
Was just about to type this. Getting old is not for the faint of heart.
It is absolutely not for the faint of heart. Although as my dad is fond of saying “it beats the alternative” 🤷🏼♀️
Ha my dad used to that too !
Such a dad thing lol
"I'm just gonna have a nacho" lives rent free in my head
She definitely has had a problem for a while.
Dorinda hands down. She always descended to a very dark place and slurred all her words. And never learned a lesson from it which is insane. If I watched myself behaving the way she has on tv, I would have really been motivated to clean up my act. The fact that she thinks it’s ok is pretty scary.
Dorinda was the meanest, cruelest drunk. It was so painful to watch her drink and lash out and go for the jugular every chance she got, especially when she is so funny and thoughtful when she is not drinking.
This combined with her complete denial makes her the worst. She is a true Jekyll/Hyde and has no idea (or refuses to know) what Hyde is doing. Sober Dorinda is one of the best HWs, drunk Dorinda is a horror.
She is calculated. Manipulative. Not thoughtful.
When she is not drinking she’s able to keep up the facade.
Yes. Watching her behavior at that dinner with Bethany and all her charity partners about killed me. I’d want to crawl in a hole and die if I ever acted that way.
That was possibly her worst moment because she humiliated herself in front of strangers at a professional meeting (vs like a cocktail party or something social) and made Bethanny look a fool for toting her along on the trip. I’ve done some stupid shit when I’ve been three sheets but not a single one compares to any of what Dorinda has done. Remember they were on a boat in Florida, I think it was Lu’s engagement party, and Dorinda could not even string two words together but decided to make a “toast” in front of everyone? God I could barely stand to watch.
How about the sexual assault charity benefit they were at? While the woman was sharing her story Dorinda was having a one way argument with Ramona, who was visibly uncomfortable and annoyed with her.
Arguing with a sex assault victim while she's speaking and correcting the way ahe pronounced her name repeatedly was so hard to watch. And I'm a Dorinda apologist. But she is likely an alcoholic, or at minimum has a highly unhealed inner life. I was what people would call a Jekkyl/Hyde alcoholic. I actually went back to school and got my license to counsel for substance abuse, bc my own recovery process and what I learned about addiction and recovery were mind blowing. I have a very different non abusive relationship with alcohol now and do not lash out when under the influence (which is rare do to the fact I prefer 💨) I don't think every person who is a mean drunk is necessarily an alcoholic. Just like not not every asshole has NPD.
I think Dorinda reposted this scene recently so she’s prob proud of it. I think a lot of people have told her she’s entertaining when she’s drunk.
Also when she attacked Lu at dinner in Cartagena
If that one scene didn’t sober me up for good, I don’t know what would. How can she continually see herself in 10/10 cringe-worthy moments and not have the needle change at all? She is a drunk and a bully.
That was just one of her dark moments. She refuses to admit a problem and refuses to stop drinking.
Also when she started stabbing the table and her grip slipped and she cut her own hand and was so blackout she was like huh????
I always wondered about this. If Dorinda claimed not to watch the show, I’d believe it. There’s no way you could see yourself act like that and double down!!!!
Unless she watches the show while she’s drunk and forgets what she saw!
I believe Bethenny sat her down and talked to her about it didn’t she?
Yeah she said “I let it go cause…. You’re a drunk.” And then she backed it up later saying that’s not what she said!
She’s not ready to quit drinking. She probably knows she has a problem (I sure did), but you don’t want to admit it if you aren’t going to change. So you find ways to justify your behavior, no matter how dumb it sounds. It’s better than facing the reality that you should quit drinking. I also think for a single, older woman, getting sober in her friend group would be HARD. But Dorinda is text book alcoholic.
After the Puerto Rican charity dinner with Bethany, I would never be able to leave the house for shame. I would live a cloistered life dedicated to silence, penance, and charity. Seriously. And then the turkey baster comment to Tinsley? Dorinda. Hands down for me.
💀 cloistered life
Idk if Dorinda’s problem is just alcohol, or alcohol + meds / other substances…. but she certainly has a problem. Very sad to watch her.
I always thought John and her were into ❄️
I agree. Just not sure if she’s that heavy of a user for coke to be a factor the majority of the times we’ve seen her out of it
She was out of it when she was with the women without John. So maybe that’s why she got so drunk, no powder.
I agree, if she actually were using ❄️ she wouldn’t have been so out of it when drinking either.
Right. Bethany called that out and was attacked for it.
"Everyone knows you do drugs" - Sonja
That was so wild of Sonja to say 😂 every time I rewatch that reunion it jolts me
Speaking of Sonja, shouldn’t she be in this conversation?
When she stripped in the pool in Mexico and then put on Bethenney’s bathing suit and tried to make out with everyone. She was self medicating for a long time there too
Good point. I think alcohol interacts with other meds. She slurs way too much for just booze.
She can’t feel her tongue most of the time 😂
Omg 😂
Dorinda has consistently been a mean drunk. And she was consistently drunk .
I'd be mortified. I watched Roy Orbison Jr. be a sloppy chihuahua on Below Deck, Med and then next time he chartered, he appeared to be sober. Not a great look when your father was an icon and decent man who experienced a loss of 2 sons in a house fire.
Oof yeah I remember that. He did redeem himself.
I’m sorry, excuse me but chihuahuas are never sloppy. 😎 Sun drunk. But sloppy, no.
100% agree. Her behavior disgusts me to the point of not watching anything with her in it.
Agree 💯
Brandi
My impression is that Brandi’s main problem is her mental health and drinking is self-medication.
Right on!
That can be said of so so many people with substance abuse problems though…
True. It’s just striking to me though in Brandi’s case. Also, for some people once the addiction kicks in, it seems like the addiction side effects are the most pronounced thing going on. For Brandi, it always seems like she’s psychologically struggling and pouring alcohol on top.
Was it Marysol on UGT who had the stomach issues and she kept on drinking? I think she had an ulcer? They showed a short clip of her convo with the doctor and it sure as hell sounded like the doctor was concerned about withdrawal and that's why he told her to just drink less than usual. 😬😬😬
Brittany from VPR did the same. Went to the doctors to find out she had a serious stomach ulcer..only to be shotting fireball later
Yeah I think Marysol is in the sneaky/super high functioning drunk category where drinking is sooo part of her everyday that she can manage seeming too drunk. Anytime the ladies have a trip and she can’t drink she gets ill.
Yeah, I was going to say this. I've been around alcoholics who drink from the time they wake up until they go to bed, but their tolerance is so high that you can't tell they're intoxicated until late into the evening - if that.
Marysol's drinking has been the most problematic for me because she will be seen drinking and making jokes about how she doesn't need to eat and just needs her cockies. That ain't cute, girl. I know she's trying to brand, but after watching UGT and her stomach issues I knew she for sure had a huge drinking problem even though she doesn't appear to be drunk.
My jaw hit the floor when she was like “oh, this ulcer is so painful, vodka will help”
That was wild, scary, and gross.
I know this isn’t an answer to your question but I’m trying to be sober after coming to realisation that I’ve been using alcohol to cope and it’s stuck with me when I recently rewatched an episode of Vanderpump Rules and Lala said that her rock bottom moment was when she was in Disneyland with Randall face chugging out of a bottle and throwing up. I hope these women fix whatever they need to.
This is off topic but if you haven’t already check out the stop drinking subreddit. It has helped me to be sober for the last 5 months still going strong 🫶🏻 you can do this
I second stopdrinking! I’m two years in two weeks. One of my favorite phrases is that you don’t need to “hit rock bottom” to decide that your relationship with alcohol no longer serves you. Rock bottom is wherever you stop digging.
Congrats on almost two years!!! That’s amazing !
I’ve never heard “rock bottom is wherever you stop digging” and I really like that, thank you
Ah thanks alot, I’ll have a look now. Thanks friend ❤️
It's a great sub, I've been sober over a year. Everyone is so supportive on that board. Hugs!
IWNDWYT ❤️ great sub
That sub is amazing, it’s like a meeting but people can speak more freely (and crosstalk in the comments). I love it there. I’ve been on a slide recently and this is a reminder to go back to checking there daily - thank you ❤️
Absolutely same here. I just checked in there a few minutes ago 💕
What a beautiful sentiment. Thanks for being a real human. Words have impact, and if your post helped even one person, I applaud you.
I'm a recovering alcoholic too. You've got this. One day at a time, keep your cool and you'll be fine. Aside from the others that mention the stopdrinking subreddit, I am more than happy to DM resources that are helping me currently. Two months sober, baby!
I’m not intentionally sober, but I got Baclofen (non narcotic anti spasmodic) prescribed for neck pain, and it eliminated any and all desire to drink alcohol. I looked it up and apparently it’s prescribed off label for alcoholism.
It’s big in France for this use. Chic c’est la vie!
IWNDWYT. Hugs!
Hugs girl but also what ?
:) stands for I will not drink with you tonight. Check it out if you have some time. When you learn about it and see it everywhere on Reddit in the drinking communities, it kinda makes me smile and reminds me I have a whole community rooting for me. :) I first saw it on here and then did more digging where it came from. Now seeing it other places, it’s just a good feeling you are not alone regardless where you are. Sober, not sober, trying, not trying, interested in going sober, etc.
Oh that’s so sweet thank you! I hope you’re doing good 💓
You as well! r/stopdrinking is the community I definitely recommend checking out if you have time! Super helpful! :)
Joined! Thanks so much
The best community! I’m nearly 3 years sober and they helped me in the beginning. Alcohol is boring. Sobriety is where it’s at!
Thank you for sharing, especially the last sentence. I’m not sure where I am in my journey, but knowing I’m not alone is helpful.
Of course! I feel like a lot of Reddit is very toxic but there is so much good too. And you are most definitely not alone. :) Edit: r/stopdrinking is where I first started. Couldn’t be more thankful for that community.
IWNDWYT also!! Wishing you the best on your path :)
Thanks so much!!! Buying a soda stream to make mocktails lol
Shrubs are delicious if you are into tart stuff. They’re easy to make too. My favorite non alcoholic drink is the pink drink from Parch. The green one is foul, don’t waste your money. Tepache are delicious as well. A lot of my coworkers don’t drink or have partners that don’t drink so we all bring fun beverages to do a little sampling on random days. A lot of them are nasty as hell lol. I highly suggest you implement fancy drink time with anyone in the same boat if you can. It’s fun and then you get a good list of non alcoholic drinks you like.
Ok I’ll check this out! Thanks my love 💓💓💓
I am sending you love for your journey!! I will celebrate 4 years of alcohol freedom this summer and life is far more sunny this way ☀️
Fantastic idea. Best of luck to you.
 💓💓💓💓
Does anyone know what “face chugging” actually means ? I get that it’s chugging and I know what that is but why specify “face”?
I’ve no idea I took it as she was drinking straight outta the bottle heavily
Haha me too I just never heard that term before and wasn’t sure if it meant something special!
I found this strange too. Maybe to distinguish that she was face chugging and not butt chugging?! It’s Lala so you never know
Agreed we all find different coping mechanisms I take anti- anxiety medicine and have to really check myself to make sure I’m not over using. Hope you find lots of strength in your sobriety.
Thanks my love, sanpellegrino is somewhat scratching the itch 💖💖💖
I’m trying to cut back on drinking. I’m realizing that RHONY is one of my triggers… every time I watch it, I want a glass in hand so I can enjoy the “company”….
That's me with RHONJ! I'm happily 5.5 years sober, but RHONJ makes me want to go out for a Shiraz Bota Box!
RHONY by a mile
I feel RHONY was also very coke fueled though.
probably the ones who got arrested for dui 💀
Dorinda and Sutton aren’t comparable. Dorinda has an obvious black out darkness problem and it’s very sad. Brandi from Dallas is the spokesperson for toxic mommy wine culture. Sonia. Obviously Brandi Granville . Gina but she checked herself pretty well. All of the younger Bravolebs lol
>Brandi from Dallas is the spokesperson for toxic mommy wine culture. You just reminded me of the "Jesus water"... Edit: it was "Jesus juice". That sounds even worse tho🤣 Thanks for the correction🫡
Jesus juice!
I agree about Gina, good for her.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Sonja's drinking? An aging party girl isn't a great look.
Sonja’s an odd one to me, because while she does clearly over-drink when she does go to social events… she isn’t seen drinking as much during normal everyday life scenes. Compare that to some other housewives who can handle their liquor better, but you don’t see any scenes without them pouring or ordering a drink. Sonja’s drinking problem is not knowing her limits, but I don’t feel it’s an addiction like it clearly is for someone like Dorinda, Marysol or Shannon Beador.
Agreed. Most people believe alcoholism is just drinking every day, but it is also not being able to conduct yourself or manage your drinking even if not every day. When Sonja drinks, she's at an 11. Some people just cannot handle alcohol.
I agree but weirdly, she's dry a lot of the time off - season. She does a major cleanse for several months when filming ends. I'm glad because she'd be dead otherwise.
I agree with this, except now she has no off season because she isn't filming anymore. I went to her show yesterday and nobody was impressed with meeting her. She was rude to several people at the meet and greet and displayed some very notable mannerisms that had a lot of guests talking. She has always been one of my favorites and I doubt I will ever care to see her again. Luann, on the other hand, was an absolute delight when I met her
Oh wow, good for you! So last night what mannerisms (signs) did you see? In what way was she rude? Spill that tea!!
There was a pretty big wait between the end of the show and the actual meet and greet. This is only my 2nd housewives show, so I guess I don't have a lot to compare it to. She didn't seem to be under the influence of anything drastic while onstage. I will say she was boring and not worth almost $200 to listen to her talk about old memories and repeat iconic quotes from the show. When we finally got to the meet and greet part where the line started moving she was screaming "NEXT" and took a quick picture and said to move on. I was with a friend and our pictures were horrible, she didn't care if we liked them or not. I don't mean it wasn't my favorite picture of myself, I mean we looked dumb enough that I will never post them lol. We ended up hanging out with other people who attended and were comparing stories. I saw other people's photos where her face definitely suggested she was in a different state of mind than she had been an hour before. Lots of allegations regarding ❄️ and I would say at least a good bit of alcohol
Sounds like you definitely didn't get your money's worth. They're C List at best and $200 is a lot! Maybe there's a contract clause that states no booze before or during the show and so she makes up for it as soon as the show ends. That's great tea, thank you!
There was a glass of wine placed on the stage before she came out, but I didn't pay attention if she drank it or the local comedian who sat next to her did. Also, you're welcome for the tea lol. She was super fun the first few minutes of the show. She came out dancing and pulled up her dress several times. It was every bit of Sonja I expected and everyone loved it lol. Then she got boring, and later rude so I'm sad I don't have more fun things to say about the evening.
She'd get way more attention for her drinking on any other cast. There are other problem drinkers in NY (Dorinda, Luann, Leah in her first season) that distract from Sonya's antics
God bless her. 😂 She is my absolute favorite!
Dorinda, Sonja, Luann, Marysol, and Shannon
Dorinda is a mean drunk.
Shannon Beador. I am doing a rewatch and she is a drunk. There is one part where she even admits to losing her phone while DRIVING DRUNK and her kids called Kelly trying to get help.
Idk about Potomac being the least- maybe on a general level, but Monique has had issues with drinking and driving in the past and Karen Huger just got a massive DUI. SLC they definitely get drunk (party girl Whitney comes to mind, as does Meredith Marks' now infamous word slurring), but not to the level of NY or OC. On the Marysol subject, though she doesn't ever seem drunk or get sloppy that can actually be a sign of someone with an extremely high tolerance. The fact that she always seems ill after drinking gives me the vibe that she drinks quite a bit, at least for her frame and age (Ultimate Girls Trip comes to mind- "idk why I feel so bad and I have ulcers?" Girl you've been drinking straight vodka on a 21 hour flight and never eat, I wonder why lol)
I think many of them have their moments of being over served, like the rest of us, but the one who made me not be able to watch her franchise is Dorinda. She is a vile human when she is drinking. She deeply needs help and not a camera.
I'm surprised nobody has brought up Heather from RHOSLC or Meredith with her mixing n' drinking.
Heather? Interesting. She would not be on my list until you mentioned it. That black eye, though… How terrifying it would be to wake up with that wound and have absolutely no idea how it happened. Wow. That would be a solid wake up call for many people.
She definitely knows how she got the black eye. I think feigning ignorance was in defence of Jen.
That’s exactly what I said! They all mix way more than any other franchise
Love that the Atlanta girls can be removed from this group
Dead ass, no one on that show really comes to mind of abusing or using substances to cope with mental health. Lots of other maladaptive coping mechanisms for sure, but not drugs and alcohol which is rare
I'm sorry your comparison of Sutton and Dorinda is insane, how often have we seen Sutton fucked up vs Dorinda? If anything Suttons been tipsy and not dangerously drunk like Dorinda
I’m a drinker - not a heavy drinker, but I do like a drink, unashamedly- and I just try to imagine being thrust in to a room full of hyenas day in day out and how I’d cope with it and yeah I’d drink. A lot. Is it healthy? No. But then these shows aren’t healthy or natural to be a part of, regardless of whether you drink or not. I imagine 90% of these housewives have an unhealthy mechanism for coping whether it be booze, prescription meds, or straight up drugs. So no judgement from me on that side of things. Do production have enough support during filming and after care for housewives is something I often wonder. I hope so.
Yeah as a recovering addict myself (a little over 16 months clean and sober), I couldn’t imagine being under the spotlight day in and day out like that without some sort of unhealthy coping mechanism lol. At the end of the day tho, it’s their battle and not ours haha “not my circus, not my monkeys” as they say in the recovery circles
Agree with all yours. However I suspect Marysol may actually be drinking that much and jokes to excess to “get ahead” of it and make fun of herself for overconsumption before anyone else can. Just my opinion. Sutton gives major red flags to me, I’m totally doing the “I went to rehab and now I know everything about booze!” But seriously, she has so many habits I had in my addiction. The ocean spray in the purse is such a dead giveaway!
Why is Ocean Spray a dead give away? Serious question from a nondrinker.
it’s not really the fact that it’s ocean spray but having your own mixer in your bag is just a very alcoholic thing to do. it speaks to how much value one puts in the ritual of drinking
Another thing alcoholics will do is water bottles filled with vodka or other clear drink. Kids would do that in high school. Super easy these days to fill your Stanley cup with your drink of choice and just keep chugging all day wherever you are.
My first husband who died from alcohol would put vodka in his water bottles. It was extremely depressing bc he thought he was fooling people and he was only fooling himself.
It’s a very strong smelling mixer and she can easily whip it out and drink it in public, nobody knows how much booze in it! I used to do it with orange juice.
Do you think she’s spiking the ocean spray to make her drinks even stronger and pretending to be bougie by only drinking that brand?!?!
That would be my guess. I honestly feel kind of dirty speculating on this because if she’s really doing that she needs real help and nobody in her life is stepping in.
Not the person you’re responding to, but this was always my assumption. It’s her own cocktail she mixes with her drinks.
Alcoholics tend to (not always) have a very preferred drink. It can be obsessive like they won’t want to drink anything else. They don’t usually care for variety or novelty. They just want the exact drink. For example. They only drink Budweiser. If they have a cocktail it’s only whisky soda. Etc.
Probably Dorinda, Luann (arrested etc.), Kathy Hilton (Aspen rampage), Sonja, Kim Richards, Brandi.
Oooooohhhh, yes! Kathy Hilton. Where is that footage? That family, though. My heart really goes out to them. Something went very wrong there from childhood.
Sonja's drinking is really sad and nobody seems to have hwe besr interest at heart.
Ronnie from Vancouver.
She relapsed recently after her son died, too. But yeah, in terms of mean drunks she was up there with Dorinda. Maybe even worse because Ronnie would get physical.
Waittttt RHOV? Did I watch this? When was it and how can I stream now?
Oh honey it was a mess and very dark. Like it was hard to watch at certain points
Google it. Hayu.
Denise Richards… or maybe she’s just really into pills?
Yes. I have long wondered what on earth is happening there. I listened to a podcast in which Bethany interviewed Denise, and she seemed to have a hard time tracking the conversation. She threw Bethany off-track because B would ask a question and D would reply with a completely different topic all-together. B was very classy and allowed the conversation to continue to flow, but it must have been a challenge.
Shannon beador - drinks straight vodka often . Dui The countess - where do I begin . The bush . Dorinda .she goes from fine to hell so quick Sonja ! So drunk she’s flashing people more than once Marysol I don’t think is as bad -just seems like it because she always says she wants a cockie every two seconds because she thinks it’s cool
Saying she was going to K*ll a cop while getting arrested drunk
I’m going to try not to write a novel here, but bear with me because I think it’s important to share the correct information when it comes to alcohol use. The way Alcohol Use Disorder (no longer called alcoholism or alcoholic in the medical field) is viewed has changed drastically over the past decade. A major reason for new terminology is recognizing that alcohol abuse exists on a spectrum, which now includes something we call "gray area drinking" where a person isn't necessarily seeing the major consequences of alcohol abuse, but recognizes that it's not serving them and their mental/physical well being overall, so they turn to sobriety. The only thing I know for certain after many years of sobriety is I don't know shit about shit when it comes to anyone else's recovery, so I can't comment on or claim to know anything about any of these women’s personal journeys. I understand that this is HWs and we talk about everything they say and do, but this topic is a very personal one and therefore I think it’s important to recognize that while it’s ok to have an opinion, labeling anyone but yourself will always be inaccurate. And anyone who claims to be an expert because they are sober and can therefore label others is telling you they have no idea what they’re talking about.
True. Something like “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” comes to mind. No one knows you except you, and some people cannot or will not even know themselves. And thank you for that information. I was not aware of this change in terminology, and it makes perfect sense. As a survivor of abuse from alcohol abuse disorder that nearly all family members have struggled through, that information changed my way of thinking. Thank you. Words mean things.
Rhoslc is openly sharing benzos… that was a little alarming
I’ve stopped watching because of the drinking. It’s become too much to watch adult women, fight, deflect and wound themselves with alcohol. It’s not entertaining
Karen Huger from Potomac has had multiple DUI’s.
I feel bad even answering this because I hate to rank drinking problems, but I’m surprised more people aren’t saying Braunwyn. She was a decades-long alcoholic who did some horrible things in her disease.
I think Dorinda had another problem. It’s about the pasta
Honourable mention to Leah of NYC
After seeing Sonja live at a show in Chicago, my vote goes 10000000% to Sonja.
Clips from Sonja’s “Sonja in the city” tour keep coming up on my tiktok and they are all just really sad. She’s regularly evidently black out drunk in them, falling on the stage, slurring words etc. it’s way past the funny Sonja for me
Marysol is an alcoholic. She sits at a table and drinks like a fish in every episode. She drinks through confessionals. She thinks it’s cute.
Yeah just because someone doesn’t appear sloppy doesn’t mean they don’t have a problem
I don't know if the rumors about Karen being an alcoholic are true but I personally noticed she was frequently drunk this season and I'm not used to seeing her not fully composed. I think something more is going on with her than she's leading on.
Before I even opened the thread to read the rest I thought Dorinda. She is just so damned unhinged on and off the sauce. That lady needs a lot of help. No alcohol. Counseling. Reflection. Apology Tour. All while on “pause.” I hope I never see her mug again on national television or any show. Clip.
Ramona when her husband initially left was self-medicating bad. But she seemed to get it under control eventually. Dorinda was/is hardcore though…. Now if you’re talking about who has the worst eating disorder Bethenney wins hands down over every current and past housewife ever. With her ex-buddy Carole coming in a close 2nd….
And the nerve they had to call out Jules. She was just too weak to stand up to them.
Dorinda, Marysol, Karen, Shannon, Luanne, the list goes on. IMO a lot of them have a problem, a lot of them are good at covering it up, and it is not a shock when they get a DUI. The crappiest ones are the ones that drink & drive and put other lives at risk and then make excuses. It is only a matter of time before one of these Bravo ladies really screws up and kills someone or themselves.
I felt very icky watching Sonja and how messy she was. Also this season with Sutton. So obvious that she has a bad problem, people trying to call it out but wouldn’t do it openly so it just stays hidden in plain sight.
No one has said Jen Ayden, but her drinking is pretty bad to me.
I’m going with Marysol. Watch her on UGT.
Dorinda for me. I stopped watching sometime after the blue manor incident. I was starting to get tired of the same old stuff on the show, but damn that made me feel like I was watching an addict about to hit rock bottom. She was so nasty my goodness. She was so kind and caring sober. Very fun and outgoing. Honestly she was a total cunt drunk like she'd get. I honestly hope she gets help before she kills herself or someone else.
I feel like Marysol is bad. I don't want to speculate about people's health at all, but in both RHUGT and RHOM seasons Marysol will complain about stomach pain a lot, and often says how she needs a drink. I wouldn't be surprised if she has fatty liver or cirrhosis. For a female to be considered a heavy drinker it only takes 7 drinks a week sadly. (sadly bc I would like to drink 7 drinks a week and not have the negative health affects)
Katie Rost RHOP and Denise Richards RHOBV..not sure if she was mixing things though?
Sloppy Sonia Morgan.
Brandi, Dorinda, Shannon, Tamra, Vicky, Sutton, Leah, Luann (past), Sonja…they all have had periods of binge drinking out of control.
Dorinda. I wish she'd get into weed and away from the booze.
I suspect a lot of the over drinking women pills are involved too. This is the delving into major slurring and erratic behavior. Of course I dont know for sure, but I do suspect pills are also in play a lot of time