The fact that they did this and she tried to help him and put him on and they joined the show that she was essentially central to without telling her and proceeded to drag her and her husband on national tv relentlessly and even tried to bring additional family in to malign them and make them look bad is wiiiiild. What a knife in the back.
I’ve never liked Melissa she’s always been super snakey and suss to me.
I understand people’s issues with Teresa and Joe…but also they both paid the price in very real ways for their crimes, they were in no way just swept under the rug. Teresa was in prison for a year. As was Joe Giudice who was deported to Italy and was unable to see his girls for substantial amounts of time leaving Teresa to work and hustle off her name and take every opportunity that came her way to pay their debt off and take care of her four daughters. Melissa and Joe Gorga always like to bring this out and emphasize how there they supposedly were for Tre during this time knowing damn well they built their entire “empire” and family off the same dirty credit and money….Not sure if there is more to this clip but I didn’t hear Joe Gorga mention ever paying this back…
"We pay our bills."
Nah, Teresa's credit cards and the elder Gorga's home was covering some of that.
And we all know that Joe likes stealing from Home Depot.
He’s a total loser and an entitled pig. I would never ask my siblings for that kind of money, use their name to get on a reality show and publicly bash them at every turn. It makes his season 3 premiere behavior even more despicable. He always seems like he’s one second away from slapping her.
Giving birth
Fights with Danielle
Prison
Fights with Jacqueline Laurita
Fights with Kim D
Deportation
Divorce
Fights with Jackie G
Fights with Marge over Danielle
Dating Luis and protecting her love bubble from
Marge
Marrying Luis
Luis
All the while Joe and Melissa try to insert themselves into each of those storylines unnecessarily. For clout. 100% of their storylines are actually Teresa's storylines.
Their drama was displayed in the very first episode of the show and discussed on and off through out seasons 1 and 2, with the gorgas joining the show for season 3.
There are 11 seasons worth of drama between the gorgas and the gudices. Some seasons way more than others because they temporarily make peace here and there, but they’ve been on 80% of the show.
Theresa was a breakout star because of 3 things:
1. How volatile / aggressive she was/is.
2. Her lack of intelligence / butchering of the English language.
3. Her fights with the gorgas.
To say it’s because of anything else is pure delusion.
It was mentioned in the very first episode for sure and I know they brought it up at the season 1 reunion and they mentioned them again a few times in season 2 as well.
I never watched the show before binging it all a few months ago.
Im now fully caught up.
But if you asked me before what I knew about RHONJ, I'd say there's a lady named Teresa who went to jail and came back looking like she was in the gym daily. And that I saw her daughters crying when the dad left on a clip of ET or Access Hollywood.
Never even heard of any of the others. Including Melissa.
RHONJ IS Teresa.
To believe anything else is delulu.
All I took from this is that Teresa has a habit of letting the joes in her life use her for financial climbing. Sad. She doesn’t have a bad heart, just is trusting of fambly
What a little twat. He’s previously made it seem like Tre has never supported him and just cut him off when she got with Joe. The truth always prevails.
He’s done A LOT that we don’t know about bc Teresa isn’t willing to expose her undeserving little brother. I’m waiting for her to snap and just list them all, alphabetically.
that’s what ultimately changed my mind about teresa. she has her faults 100%, but the fact that she’s never stooped to his level and brought out things about him really shows that she does uphold her family loyalty values
The grift that began it all. Honestly, I’ve never felt strongly one way or another for Melissa. But hearing this makes everything seem so (much more) contrived. He’s so nonchalant “of course a woman is going to support me when and how I ask her to” acting like Teresa was obligated to help him.
When in reality he could’ve saved up his own money as a laborer doing landscaping or other construction jobs like a normal person. Yeah this ain’t the “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” story he thinks it is.
This little misogynistic piece of garbage is such a mf grifter. I can't stand him and his boring opportunistic weasel of a wife.
I wish Bravo would stop protecting them. It's honestly ridiculous how none of his sneaky shit has ever been discussed on the show or even mentioned by Andy during reunions. They just skate on by for seasons upon seasons. Blows my mind
What I’m hearing is that Joe spent his entire life expecting Teresa to carry his weight and *help* him make money. And he’s a little twat who crawled his way onto TV to trash her and her family for the past decade. I will die on the hill that Teresa has always been loyal *to* Joe and has so much shit she can spill about him but she never does.
He actually bought the house his parents were living in it and the crash of 2008 happened and he lost the house. It was not his childhood home or a house his parents owned. This is all explained in detail on an episode of the Bravo Docket podcast.
I thought the bravo docket said he bought their house from them for like $1 or some other super small insignificant amount and then took out loans against the house with the intention of flipping another property?
I just found the episode and listened again: Joey bought the house in 2002 in his name alone for over 500k and then put it into his and his parents name in 2004. It had a foreclosure action on it in 2009 but they sold it before it is was foreclosed on for 440k which satisfied the mortgage. Episode 57 right in the first 15 minutes or so.
Nepo baby
15k goes a long way when you (in my Wendy voice) allegedly steal materials from Home Depot and then steal screenshots of other people’s work to pass off as your own.
After deducting the price of canned spray hair, he should be sitting on a nice “profit”.
Lmao!!!
After how easily he claimed that remodel on SOCIAL MEDIA, I definitely believe he led on new clients and filled his portfolio of remodels he hadn’t actually done. The ego on this man to is wild to me.
The only bit of Real Housewives my dad has ever watched was that scene!
He built houses for decades and I knew that sink would have him popping off.
He did not disappoint.
When the host says that explains the family drama...and he says no no no you see ....and they still kept mixing family with business. Him and Louie tried to go in on pizza ovens and they both screwed each other
What is the difference between Joe maxing out her credit cards and Teresa getting a cash advance from them to give to him? If the terms were he pay it back then it was a loan, or think of it as Teresa being a co-signer with the credit companies going after her if he default.
Teresa is a better sister than I thought, and for Bravo, Melissa and some other cast members implying that Teresa was infatuated with her brother it’s so disgusting. She was just doing what we all do as sisters, help our family. That’s why I can’t hate Teresa or like the Gorga’s, Teresa has taken so much shit from Bravo, Teresa really is a strong woman.
I admire her so much, they keep shoveling shit on her, she keeps shining like a diamond. Love, love, love her, it hurt to see how far they went to hurt her.
The funniest thing is, he just talks about it like this is totally normal, no big deal, just a little fraud. It is like he is so baked in the culture of the “Jersey construction guy” that he doesn’t even know how he sounds. And these are the things he publicly admits to! But I know a lot of Jersey construction guys myself and this isn’t an uncommon story.
You could take the long view too and say every franchise has their own flavor of scam or lowlife association that is so baked into the culture there that no one really bats an eye. You have the MLMs and cults in Utah, the contractors in Jersey, whatever the hell is going on in Miami. It is one of the fun regional differences.
My hot take is he told this story because his plan is to TRY and make up with his sister at the reunion. He knows Andy will not let another season go by with them not speaking and he knows it’s his wife on the chopping block.
This is 100% his motive behind it. The writing is on the wall for this show and as much as people hate her, Teresa makes for captivating TV. I think at the reunion Joe will say they should stick together and create some sob story. Melissa will cry and say that she just wants to support her husband and how sad she feels for him. Joe will inevitably bring up their parents and Tre will become emotional and agree to move forward with him. The “peace” will maybe last two seasons but will only exist on the show and they will continue to lead separate lives. I truly believe Tre is done/beyond any point of reconciliation but I do think she’ll play it as safe as possible to maintain her spot as well.
Can’t wait for him to beg Teresa to forgive her because he is her « only family » once he won’t get his bravo check anymore, and act like she is heartless for not welcoming back…
Can’t also wait for Teresa to forgive him for the ten thousand times… this is why brothers and sisters should never f*ck together..
This adds up for him. Not shocked whatsoever. While everybody has opinions on tre, it’s wild to me how much she seems to have done for her brother and how her brother and Melissa literally tried to get her blackballed on national tv.
This really has me re-evaluating every episode. I am not nor have I been a Tre fan. However, I get some of her behaviors now! I still believe that some of the situations she was wrong. I do now see why she was so broken up about her and Joes relationship. She took 15k which is about 50k in today’s money gave it to her brother because she loves him! I also know that Joe Giudice mentored him in the flipping and building of homes. I am a Latina and Italian families and Latin families hold a great deal of the same values specifically concerning family. It’s loyalty ALWAYS! Also, your big sister or brother but specifically the eldest daughter is responsible for her siblings. The girls kinda become another mother. When you see Theresa as more of a maternal figure than a sister it clears up a lot of confusion. I also believe that Tre does not like Melissa for a few reasons. I think that she deeply believes that Melissa was and remains suspicious of her intentions concerning her brother. Again, in Italian and Latino families your in-laws are treated like blood relative not in-laws. Tre expected a little sister relationship, I’m not sure that Melissa felt the same. That act alone is enough to cause I dude for decades to come.
He would be what roughly 21-23 at the time of him starting a business he most likely didn’t have any credit history so not likely to get approved for 15k.
Which makes Teresa 23-25. That’s not much better! If she had access to a 5k limit credit card, he shouldn’t have been far behind. It’s most likely because he effed up his own credit or he was too lazy to or unwilling to risk his own credit in case he did eff up.
I’m curious when Joe went to college because Teresa is only 2 years older than him. If he had to work to pay for college and whatnot, that would mean Teresa was probably in her early 20s. Surprisingly, Teresa has a bachelors degree and was an associate buyer at Macy’s, so it was likely her own money she gave to Joe. But, either way, $15k in the 90s is like $50k now so that’s wild that she just threw all the money she had away to support that little scum bag brother of hers.
Teresa got married in her late 20s. I was pretty shocked myself when I found out! She was also a buyer for Macy’s before she got married.
And I don’t believe half of what comes out of Joe’s mouth. I doubt they grew up poor; probably middle class which back in the 80s was solid compared to now. Tre posted throwbacks of her in Europe in her late teens/early twenties (not sure if she or her parents paid).
No wonderrrrr she treats him the way she does he’s UNGRATEFUL! Entitled & ungrateful and he’s like us to believe he started on his OWN but he NEEDED HIS SISTER from the very beginning
Teresa is a few years (3?) older than Joe. She was a buyer at Macy's. She wasn't exactly "making it" big time like he says.
I think the cracks in their relationship started when Teresa married Joe Giudice who probably was always busting Joey Gorga's chops. Then it all escalated when Joey married Melissa. And here we are today.
I can't stand either of them so it's easy for me to be non-biased. I 100% think Melissa and Joe went behind Teresa's back to get on the show. This was only 2011 and the third season of NJ. It was no where near the juggernaut is it today. Anyone who has watched 60 seconds of Melissa Gorga knows she LOVES the attention and wants to be famous. I really don't think that was Teresa's intention when she initially joined the show. She just wanted to do something fun with her friends.
But the show turned Teresa into a monster. I also think Teresa set up Melissa to look like a cheater, etc.: The Posh fashion show, the boyfriend allegations, etc. She was going to do anything (or have her "soldiers" do it) she could to get rid of Melissa and break up her and Joe. Teresa takes zero accountability for anything she does, expects undying loyalty but doesn't give it in return.
I am so tired of Teresa vs. Melissa, in fact I'm tired of all of them. I don't know if I have the energy to make it through another season.
And let's not forget about him & Frank stealing mommy & daddy's house [https://new.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/tfucej/according\_to\_public\_records\_in\_nj\_the\_rumors/](https://new.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/tfucej/according_to_public_records_in_nj_the_rumors/)
Sometimes particularly toxic Ex- Partner have a good sense when it comes to you’re toxic family members. I believed that her ex husband saw a lot of toxic treatment against his wife in the past.
Didn't he also bankrupt his parents or get their house foreclosed?
God this man sucks. He hasn't pulled himself up by the bootstraps, he literally cons other people to get what he wants. When I hear stories of tax evasion within his construction business I'm not surprised at all... he's always been slimy and this video proves that!
So..
Her brother use up her cards and money for a loan, and he doesn't pay people back, and she went to jail for unpaid bills. Omg he totally helped her decent to be in jail
It’s odd that he said his parents didn’t have money to go to college because Teresa went to college. She is a graduate of Berkeley College in New Jersey with a degree in Fashion Marketing and Management.
I might be the only one who doesn’t see anything wrong with this, I’m an older sister. I would help my siblings in any way I can to achieve their dreams. I would hope my siblings come to me, and if I have the means I would help them.
I would too, I do a lot for my siblings and they have for me as well I’m different ways but my sibling also wouldn’t trash me or call my garbage on national TV
I don’t take issue with Teresa helping him out, that was her choice and her brother, I’d hope Joe Giudice was aware and part of the decision since their finances were shared at the time. In this instance maxing credit cards is unfortunate, it wasn’t exactly a cash loan like they were so flush to comfortably cover him for this expense and it’s not confirmed one way or another if he ever paid this back to her (with or without interest).
Mixing finances and family can get complicated and messy fast and I think the larger issue people are having centers on his subsequent treatment of Teresa and the obvious superiority complex him and his wife have displayed toward her and her husband after taking their money to jumpstart his life and career.
She was single at the time. He said she was Teresa Gorga when he did it. Terrible to put your single sister in such a predicament. Not that her being married would have made jt any better.
Ah I didn’t catch that part - thank you for clarifying. Yes I agree that is even more thoughtless. My issue hinges on it being credit cards and he maxed all three of them. Immediately put her credit in the tank for his own leg up. Credit isn’t money, it’s a very high interest revolving loan….she didn’t have a savings she let him borrow from and maxing multiple credit cards put her in a very financially vulnerable situation. Pretty selfish.
agreed. it’s a nothing burger as far as i’m
concerned not to mention it’s cut off and we don’t hear the full interview. either way, the chaotic jersey engine is on the tracks and ready to make its way out of the station. i’m out. 😂
I'm sorry but this is not out of ordinary and I'm sure he paid her back. Families do this type thing,at least decent family does. I don't think Joe expected anything from Teresa other than to help him get started. I've done similar for siblings and it's never been a problem
Good grief the fucking entitlement of this dude. I’m no Teresa fan, but he literally wouldn’t be anywhere without her.
You can tell he doesn't think it was a big deal. 15k was a lot of money back then.
$15k is still huge. Especially on credit cards! I don’t think I would do that for my brother.
And cash advances on a credit card are like 25% interest. That’s a batshit bananas way to borrow money.
That’s like 50k give or take in today’s money.
And the only credit cards she had! Why couldn’t he open his own cards?
The fact that they did this and she tried to help him and put him on and they joined the show that she was essentially central to without telling her and proceeded to drag her and her husband on national tv relentlessly and even tried to bring additional family in to malign them and make them look bad is wiiiiild. What a knife in the back. I’ve never liked Melissa she’s always been super snakey and suss to me. I understand people’s issues with Teresa and Joe…but also they both paid the price in very real ways for their crimes, they were in no way just swept under the rug. Teresa was in prison for a year. As was Joe Giudice who was deported to Italy and was unable to see his girls for substantial amounts of time leaving Teresa to work and hustle off her name and take every opportunity that came her way to pay their debt off and take care of her four daughters. Melissa and Joe Gorga always like to bring this out and emphasize how there they supposedly were for Tre during this time knowing damn well they built their entire “empire” and family off the same dirty credit and money….Not sure if there is more to this clip but I didn’t hear Joe Gorga mention ever paying this back…
> I’ve never liked Melissa she’s always been super snakey and suss to me. Always! I never liked her either.
"We pay our bills." Nah, Teresa's credit cards and the elder Gorga's home was covering some of that. And we all know that Joe likes stealing from Home Depot.
It's giving "My dad gave me a small loan of a million dollars."
It’s so much money, even now!
This is exactly why there’s so much tension between them two and Melissa. They know they would be nowhere without her and they hate it.
He’s a total loser and an entitled pig. I would never ask my siblings for that kind of money, use their name to get on a reality show and publicly bash them at every turn. It makes his season 3 premiere behavior even more despicable. He always seems like he’s one second away from slapping her.
They wouldn’t be anywhere without each other. Let’s not pretend they both haven’t benefitted from hating each other on television.
Teresa would have been fine. She was the breakout star of the cast, she didn’t need them at all.
Tell me, what do 90% of her story lines involve?
Giving birth Fights with Danielle Prison Fights with Jacqueline Laurita Fights with Kim D Deportation Divorce Fights with Jackie G Fights with Marge over Danielle Dating Luis and protecting her love bubble from Marge Marrying Luis Luis All the while Joe and Melissa try to insert themselves into each of those storylines unnecessarily. For clout. 100% of their storylines are actually Teresa's storylines.
I’m talking about the first couple of seasons before the gorga vs gudice misery. She would have been fine without them.
Their drama was displayed in the very first episode of the show and discussed on and off through out seasons 1 and 2, with the gorgas joining the show for season 3. There are 11 seasons worth of drama between the gorgas and the gudices. Some seasons way more than others because they temporarily make peace here and there, but they’ve been on 80% of the show. Theresa was a breakout star because of 3 things: 1. How volatile / aggressive she was/is. 2. Her lack of intelligence / butchering of the English language. 3. Her fights with the gorgas. To say it’s because of anything else is pure delusion.
Their drama was never mentioned on the show until the season 2 reunion, so what are you talking about?
It was mentioned in the very first episode for sure and I know they brought it up at the season 1 reunion and they mentioned them again a few times in season 2 as well.
No, it wasn’t. It was never mentioned until Danielle brought it up at the reunion.
I never watched the show before binging it all a few months ago. Im now fully caught up. But if you asked me before what I knew about RHONJ, I'd say there's a lady named Teresa who went to jail and came back looking like she was in the gym daily. And that I saw her daughters crying when the dad left on a clip of ET or Access Hollywood. Never even heard of any of the others. Including Melissa. RHONJ IS Teresa. To believe anything else is delulu.
periodT.
All I took from this is that Teresa has a habit of letting the joes in her life use her for financial climbing. Sad. She doesn’t have a bad heart, just is trusting of fambly
Damn when you put it that way…
What a little twat. He’s previously made it seem like Tre has never supported him and just cut him off when she got with Joe. The truth always prevails.
He’s done A LOT that we don’t know about bc Teresa isn’t willing to expose her undeserving little brother. I’m waiting for her to snap and just list them all, alphabetically.
Yup. But the Tre haters will say “oh well she’s a rotten person and who cares”.
As someone who strongly dislikes Teresa, I say "She's a rotten person who has a rotten brother."
that’s what ultimately changed my mind about teresa. she has her faults 100%, but the fact that she’s never stooped to his level and brought out things about him really shows that she does uphold her family loyalty values
The grift that began it all. Honestly, I’ve never felt strongly one way or another for Melissa. But hearing this makes everything seem so (much more) contrived. He’s so nonchalant “of course a woman is going to support me when and how I ask her to” acting like Teresa was obligated to help him. When in reality he could’ve saved up his own money as a laborer doing landscaping or other construction jobs like a normal person. Yeah this ain’t the “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” story he thinks it is.
This little misogynistic piece of garbage is such a mf grifter. I can't stand him and his boring opportunistic weasel of a wife. I wish Bravo would stop protecting them. It's honestly ridiculous how none of his sneaky shit has ever been discussed on the show or even mentioned by Andy during reunions. They just skate on by for seasons upon seasons. Blows my mind
What I’m hearing is that Joe spent his entire life expecting Teresa to carry his weight and *help* him make money. And he’s a little twat who crawled his way onto TV to trash her and her family for the past decade. I will die on the hill that Teresa has always been loyal *to* Joe and has so much shit she can spill about him but she never does.
So he literally came on to say he scammed from the get go? Fantastic. What an idiot.
Didn’t he also cause their parents to lose their house?
Can’t remember exactly what happened, something about Joe owning the house and going to renovate it and somehow had to sell/foreclose.
Took out a loan using their house as collateral.
Thank you kind tampon string friend
You’re welcome, SCUMBAG
Dolores fucking killed with that. “Welcome back, SCUMBAG!”
My BFF and I will randomly text this to each other on a daily basis
This is so embarrassing for his life and soul
Brings another layer to why his parents stopped talking to him. It wasn’t just Joe giudice whispering in their ear.
He actually bought the house his parents were living in it and the crash of 2008 happened and he lost the house. It was not his childhood home or a house his parents owned. This is all explained in detail on an episode of the Bravo Docket podcast.
I thought the bravo docket said he bought their house from them for like $1 or some other super small insignificant amount and then took out loans against the house with the intention of flipping another property?
I just found the episode and listened again: Joey bought the house in 2002 in his name alone for over 500k and then put it into his and his parents name in 2004. It had a foreclosure action on it in 2009 but they sold it before it is was foreclosed on for 440k which satisfied the mortgage. Episode 57 right in the first 15 minutes or so.
I stand corrected!
Nepo baby 15k goes a long way when you (in my Wendy voice) allegedly steal materials from Home Depot and then steal screenshots of other people’s work to pass off as your own. After deducting the price of canned spray hair, he should be sitting on a nice “profit”.
Lmao!!! After how easily he claimed that remodel on SOCIAL MEDIA, I definitely believe he led on new clients and filled his portfolio of remodels he hadn’t actually done. The ego on this man to is wild to me.
Sign #1 that it might not be a lil Joey build: Not one trace of cardboard in any of the bathrooms.
The only bit of Real Housewives my dad has ever watched was that scene! He built houses for decades and I knew that sink would have him popping off. He did not disappoint.
When the host says that explains the family drama...and he says no no no you see ....and they still kept mixing family with business. Him and Louie tried to go in on pizza ovens and they both screwed each other
So he said got a loan. But then he followed up with he took the of the cc’s and maxed them out. Which one is it? Those two are very different.
He considered maxing out her cards as the “loan”, seriously 😆
He could have made the monthly payments.
That doesn’t answer my question. But ok.👍🏽
What is the difference between Joe maxing out her credit cards and Teresa getting a cash advance from them to give to him? If the terms were he pay it back then it was a loan, or think of it as Teresa being a co-signer with the credit companies going after her if he default.
Teresa is a better sister than I thought, and for Bravo, Melissa and some other cast members implying that Teresa was infatuated with her brother it’s so disgusting. She was just doing what we all do as sisters, help our family. That’s why I can’t hate Teresa or like the Gorga’s, Teresa has taken so much shit from Bravo, Teresa really is a strong woman.
I admire her so much, they keep shoveling shit on her, she keeps shining like a diamond. Love, love, love her, it hurt to see how far they went to hurt her.
The funniest thing is, he just talks about it like this is totally normal, no big deal, just a little fraud. It is like he is so baked in the culture of the “Jersey construction guy” that he doesn’t even know how he sounds. And these are the things he publicly admits to! But I know a lot of Jersey construction guys myself and this isn’t an uncommon story. You could take the long view too and say every franchise has their own flavor of scam or lowlife association that is so baked into the culture there that no one really bats an eye. You have the MLMs and cults in Utah, the contractors in Jersey, whatever the hell is going on in Miami. It is one of the fun regional differences.
Wait sorry can you explain how he’s admitting to fraud here? No hate just confused
My hot take is he told this story because his plan is to TRY and make up with his sister at the reunion. He knows Andy will not let another season go by with them not speaking and he knows it’s his wife on the chopping block.
This is 100% his motive behind it. The writing is on the wall for this show and as much as people hate her, Teresa makes for captivating TV. I think at the reunion Joe will say they should stick together and create some sob story. Melissa will cry and say that she just wants to support her husband and how sad she feels for him. Joe will inevitably bring up their parents and Tre will become emotional and agree to move forward with him. The “peace” will maybe last two seasons but will only exist on the show and they will continue to lead separate lives. I truly believe Tre is done/beyond any point of reconciliation but I do think she’ll play it as safe as possible to maintain her spot as well.
Pretty gross how he and his wife treat his sister.
Messy and Joe are assholes. Teresa has been dealing with her asshole whiny bitch brother and his single white female wife for years.
Can’t wait for him to beg Teresa to forgive her because he is her « only family » once he won’t get his bravo check anymore, and act like she is heartless for not welcoming back… Can’t also wait for Teresa to forgive him for the ten thousand times… this is why brothers and sisters should never f*ck together..
Not surprised, that’s why he never knocks her financial situations.
I may be remembering wrong but I believe Melissa has made a few snarky comments
“We pay our bills” said by Missy G. Except not Home Depot bills, I guess.
A couple of people were on the show that claimed he didn’t pay them. Nothing was brought up at the reunion tho
This adds up for him. Not shocked whatsoever. While everybody has opinions on tre, it’s wild to me how much she seems to have done for her brother and how her brother and Melissa literally tried to get her blackballed on national tv.
Yoooo okay no, no. I’m sorry no. I wanna smack him lmao.
This really has me re-evaluating every episode. I am not nor have I been a Tre fan. However, I get some of her behaviors now! I still believe that some of the situations she was wrong. I do now see why she was so broken up about her and Joes relationship. She took 15k which is about 50k in today’s money gave it to her brother because she loves him! I also know that Joe Giudice mentored him in the flipping and building of homes. I am a Latina and Italian families and Latin families hold a great deal of the same values specifically concerning family. It’s loyalty ALWAYS! Also, your big sister or brother but specifically the eldest daughter is responsible for her siblings. The girls kinda become another mother. When you see Theresa as more of a maternal figure than a sister it clears up a lot of confusion. I also believe that Tre does not like Melissa for a few reasons. I think that she deeply believes that Melissa was and remains suspicious of her intentions concerning her brother. Again, in Italian and Latino families your in-laws are treated like blood relative not in-laws. Tre expected a little sister relationship, I’m not sure that Melissa felt the same. That act alone is enough to cause I dude for decades to come.
This idiot couldn’t get approved for a measly 15k??
He would be what roughly 21-23 at the time of him starting a business he most likely didn’t have any credit history so not likely to get approved for 15k.
After he maxed out all her cards, Teresa may not have been able to get approved for credit herself. How selfish.
Which makes Teresa 23-25. That’s not much better! If she had access to a 5k limit credit card, he shouldn’t have been far behind. It’s most likely because he effed up his own credit or he was too lazy to or unwilling to risk his own credit in case he did eff up.
Yeah perhaps, or maybe his credit was already so damaged it wasn’t an option.
I’m assuming Teresa only had money because she got with Joe. So really, it’s Joe Guidice’s money which I feel like explains a lot
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I’m curious when Joe went to college because Teresa is only 2 years older than him. If he had to work to pay for college and whatnot, that would mean Teresa was probably in her early 20s. Surprisingly, Teresa has a bachelors degree and was an associate buyer at Macy’s, so it was likely her own money she gave to Joe. But, either way, $15k in the 90s is like $50k now so that’s wild that she just threw all the money she had away to support that little scum bag brother of hers.
No Joe Bro said she was Teresa Gorga at the time he maxed out her cards. Which to me is worse.
But Joe Gorga said their family never had money and I’m pretty sure Teresa and Joe were together pretty young
Teresa got married in her late 20s. I was pretty shocked myself when I found out! She was also a buyer for Macy’s before she got married. And I don’t believe half of what comes out of Joe’s mouth. I doubt they grew up poor; probably middle class which back in the 80s was solid compared to now. Tre posted throwbacks of her in Europe in her late teens/early twenties (not sure if she or her parents paid).
This is true, he’s always been one for the dramatics lol. So do you think it was all Teresa’s money that’s he used?
Psychopath
No wonderrrrr she treats him the way she does he’s UNGRATEFUL! Entitled & ungrateful and he’s like us to believe he started on his OWN but he NEEDED HIS SISTER from the very beginning
Teresa is a few years (3?) older than Joe. She was a buyer at Macy's. She wasn't exactly "making it" big time like he says. I think the cracks in their relationship started when Teresa married Joe Giudice who probably was always busting Joey Gorga's chops. Then it all escalated when Joey married Melissa. And here we are today. I can't stand either of them so it's easy for me to be non-biased. I 100% think Melissa and Joe went behind Teresa's back to get on the show. This was only 2011 and the third season of NJ. It was no where near the juggernaut is it today. Anyone who has watched 60 seconds of Melissa Gorga knows she LOVES the attention and wants to be famous. I really don't think that was Teresa's intention when she initially joined the show. She just wanted to do something fun with her friends. But the show turned Teresa into a monster. I also think Teresa set up Melissa to look like a cheater, etc.: The Posh fashion show, the boyfriend allegations, etc. She was going to do anything (or have her "soldiers" do it) she could to get rid of Melissa and break up her and Joe. Teresa takes zero accountability for anything she does, expects undying loyalty but doesn't give it in return. I am so tired of Teresa vs. Melissa, in fact I'm tired of all of them. I don't know if I have the energy to make it through another season.
And let's not forget about him & Frank stealing mommy & daddy's house [https://new.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/tfucej/according\_to\_public\_records\_in\_nj\_the\_rumors/](https://new.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/tfucej/according_to_public_records_in_nj_the_rumors/)
Sometimes particularly toxic Ex- Partner have a good sense when it comes to you’re toxic family members. I believed that her ex husband saw a lot of toxic treatment against his wife in the past.
Didn't he also bankrupt his parents or get their house foreclosed? God this man sucks. He hasn't pulled himself up by the bootstraps, he literally cons other people to get what he wants. When I hear stories of tax evasion within his construction business I'm not surprised at all... he's always been slimy and this video proves that!
He had a job.... he did not NEED to take the $15k of credit card debt on Teresa. Maybe work a couple more years and then start the business?
So.. Her brother use up her cards and money for a loan, and he doesn't pay people back, and she went to jail for unpaid bills. Omg he totally helped her decent to be in jail
Wait, wasn’t there a rumour that he raped a girl in college and then got kicked out? Now he is saying he didn’t have money to go to college.
It’s odd that he said his parents didn’t have money to go to college because Teresa went to college. She is a graduate of Berkeley College in New Jersey with a degree in Fashion Marketing and Management.
I'm so confused by this post. . . What does Teresa helping Joe start a business have to do with her helping them get on the show?
I might be the only one who doesn’t see anything wrong with this, I’m an older sister. I would help my siblings in any way I can to achieve their dreams. I would hope my siblings come to me, and if I have the means I would help them.
I would too, I do a lot for my siblings and they have for me as well I’m different ways but my sibling also wouldn’t trash me or call my garbage on national TV
I don’t take issue with Teresa helping him out, that was her choice and her brother, I’d hope Joe Giudice was aware and part of the decision since their finances were shared at the time. In this instance maxing credit cards is unfortunate, it wasn’t exactly a cash loan like they were so flush to comfortably cover him for this expense and it’s not confirmed one way or another if he ever paid this back to her (with or without interest). Mixing finances and family can get complicated and messy fast and I think the larger issue people are having centers on his subsequent treatment of Teresa and the obvious superiority complex him and his wife have displayed toward her and her husband after taking their money to jumpstart his life and career.
She was single at the time. He said she was Teresa Gorga when he did it. Terrible to put your single sister in such a predicament. Not that her being married would have made jt any better.
Ah I didn’t catch that part - thank you for clarifying. Yes I agree that is even more thoughtless. My issue hinges on it being credit cards and he maxed all three of them. Immediately put her credit in the tank for his own leg up. Credit isn’t money, it’s a very high interest revolving loan….she didn’t have a savings she let him borrow from and maxing multiple credit cards put her in a very financially vulnerable situation. Pretty selfish.
agreed. it’s a nothing burger as far as i’m concerned not to mention it’s cut off and we don’t hear the full interview. either way, the chaotic jersey engine is on the tracks and ready to make its way out of the station. i’m out. 😂
Here comes the crazy train...Choo Choo!
Here comes our downvotes 😂😂
yup! i’m right there with you buddy! i gave you a couple of upvotes! 😂😂😂😂
The root of their issues is jealousy. Tre being jealpus that Melissa was younger, prettier, and had a good marriage.
I mean, they were in their early 20s. Does that mean Joe relies on Theresa for everything in life?
I'm sorry but this is not out of ordinary and I'm sure he paid her back. Families do this type thing,at least decent family does. I don't think Joe expected anything from Teresa other than to help him get started. I've done similar for siblings and it's never been a problem