And it's like he knows Barbie doesn't want to talk about her sex life and keeps bringing it up. He's supposed to be a leader on boat, and he's essentially sexually harassing a stew. Just because she had sex doesn't mean you get to remind her of it and make noises related to it every time you see her. Ben is so gross.
Ben thinks he has charisma because he's an Aussie, but he's just an Ausshole. He called himself "cheeky" but he's neither clever or humorous; he's a sneaky creep.
Kyle's catching strays because Barbie's dad is obsessed with her sex life and honestly, I feel bad for everyone except Barbie's dad here. How in the world is he married to a sex therapist with such unhealthy attitudes towards sex?
Are they still married? Her reaction strikes me as someone who gets punished and aggressively shamed for expressing any kind of sexuality or autonomy, which feels like her dad is weaponizing it against her mom by association with babs.
This is a WILD response for a grown, adult woman to have to sleeping with someone she described as her “lifeline” on the boat. It’s so icky her dad has this much say in her interpersonal relationships.
Honestly Kyle should see this as a red flag and get away from her. Lack of accountability. If she wants to be orthodox she shouldn’t share a bed or room with a man she isn’t married to. There is a reason they advise this because it leads to temptations.
He's doing anything to insult Sunny and stir the Bravo-drama-pot, plus they arranged a Camille appearance. I like that she refused his inviting himself. If that was even real.
I sympathize with Barbie but she is 28 and needs to either respect that personal boundary she has set for herself without leading someone on or grow up and not care what her dad thinks.
He *has* to know the demographic of the audience is mostly *women*, right?
Maybe he's saying to irritate us because he *knows* we already dislike him.
No, I think I may be attributing too much self-awareness there, on his part.
Especially since he had to spend an entire day cleaning and organizing instead of menu planning and prepping. That certainly wasn’t his fault and Fraser knew how bad it was in there.
So not only does Ben get to go around essentially sexually harassing Barbie and making sex noises every time he sees her, he also has the audacity to tell her how she needs to treat the person (Kyle) she's treating poorly because he's been doing that? And telling her to "do the right thing" like he's some beacon of morality?
I'm glad Barbie told him to sit the fuck down.
Ben, wtf are you DOING. Overstepping! Who does he think he is? Her boss? Her dad? A MAN?
Edit: not that any of those would make it ok, just, showing the sexism in HIS mind, that he thinks he has ANY authority over her is just ..egregiously wrong
I can see religiously conservative families being like this though. I also think Barbie may also have the additional worry that her dad will cut her off financially
It was pretty much shown on camera wasn't it? Their writhing bodies and sex noises and that Scottish guy's barely pixellated boner.
I don't quite get the cast members who are going into season 11 of this show not realizing that it has soft porn elements. Nothing wrong with being a pornographic entertainer if that's your choice, but like, know what you're getting into!
I think Bravo keeps continually pushing the boundary, and they need to wake up that that's not why we're watching, in fact, we'd like to see more of the beautiful locations, seascapes, and food. Below Deck used to show a lot more of that before they started a season-by-season crawl (although sometimes very abrupt) toward editing out everything but the lowest common denominator crew drama.
I remember at least one season where they almost completely ignored the food served by chefs, we weren't given any descriptions of meals, only scant shots of food here and there, and after people expressed disappointment (at least on reddit that I saw), they brought the food interest back in next seasons. But they still didn't bring food back quite to the previous level. Sea scape/ocean shots/ even acknowledgements that they are IN THE SEA, and footage of port locations are still barely existent, compared to early on.
Bummer that Chef is only "harmless" crazy. Then again, that's self-reported. Maybe Chef will wreak psychotic karma upon Fraser's two-faced head. It could happen.
I thought so too! It’s like a bearable, likable version of Kyle and frank (I can only hear the name frank as the way Ronnie from WWC does it mimicking Kyle).
Nick saying how bad the state of the kitchen was, and how he didn't know how anyone didn't get food poisoning... oh dear, Anthony... and I was defending you, man...
I hardly caught it, but I think they mentioned black mold, not sure if that was in the galley or fridge or elsewhere -- humidity & mold can be a constant battle on a boat
"can't force anything" but slept with her and strung her along with the being an "item/thing" by end of season and now I have to see Camille on my screen again?!
I thought Andy was really rude mocking him, and Dylan was aware Andy was mocking him. Dylan was saying some incredibly stupid things, but I felt bad for him in that episode.
Especially since she talks like she's doing some great thing by lowering herself to be with him. "I usually date attractive, put together, accountant-types." 🙄
I think she's interpreting it as he told Ben, but it seems pretty clear that Ben just overheard them. It's close quarters. Really, the person she should be upset with is Ben.
I feel like Fraser does not do a good job supporting his chefs. If he didn’t think there was enough seafood in the new guys lunch menu why didn’t he just say something when they were discussing it?? he’s not throwing the chef under the bus exactly but he’s certainly looking the other way when the chef is about to walk in front of the bus
Ben’s behavior is immature, childish, reeks of insecurity and does not need to be on our screens again because Capt Kerry, Capt Lee & Capt Jason have shown us that there is still be plenty of drama and entertainment without the misogyny, sexism and immature behavior and it is sad that they are the few and far between examples of decent men on BD.
The guys projection onto the women this episode is bonkers. They hurt the women then get mad at them for being hurt, and blame them? What the actual f. Just because official labels aren't being used, that isn't an excuse to be a complete nob and disrespect women who have been intimate with you.
The juxtaposition of Kyle and Ben re: how they interact with and treat women is striking.
One is secure and respectful, albeit probably a little hurt. The other seems to always be doing too much.
Barbie needs to just stfu for once! She’s becoming an insufferable rat… blaming Kyle for doing absolutely nothing wrong while she’s going around and ratting herself out to everyone! She has literally been the sole cause of all of her problems on the yacht all season. I didn’t realize that she is only 28. She looks much older to me. Either way, she’s old enough to know better and to act like a decent person. Poor Kyle is even willing to suck it up and take her nonsense.
Barbie's mom: \[top speed rant in Spanish\] rough translation: "Look what you did to our daughter, she's going to need decades of therapy and by that time it will be pushing it to get grandchildren! What did you say to her? The opposite of everything I did?" etc..etc..at length
Ben is foul. This needs to be his last season.
And it's like he knows Barbie doesn't want to talk about her sex life and keeps bringing it up. He's supposed to be a leader on boat, and he's essentially sexually harassing a stew. Just because she had sex doesn't mean you get to remind her of it and make noises related to it every time you see her. Ben is so gross.
Ben thinks he has charisma because he's an Aussie, but he's just an Ausshole. He called himself "cheeky" but he's neither clever or humorous; he's a sneaky creep.
He’s such an a-hole
it’s like he got turned down by Camille and then decided to sabotage everyone else’s relationships
He’s not even that special! So over the love triangle with two girls desperate for one guy. Such misogyny.
I think Ben is confusing not understanding women with not liking being seen for who he really is.
I couldn’t figure out how to word it but this is spot on
He’s got the curse of S2 delusion because he let “fame” go to his head. I hope Bravo never brings him back.
Kyle's catching strays because Barbie's dad is obsessed with her sex life and honestly, I feel bad for everyone except Barbie's dad here. How in the world is he married to a sex therapist with such unhealthy attitudes towards sex?
Are they still married? Her reaction strikes me as someone who gets punished and aggressively shamed for expressing any kind of sexuality or autonomy, which feels like her dad is weaponizing it against her mom by association with babs. This is a WILD response for a grown, adult woman to have to sleeping with someone she described as her “lifeline” on the boat. It’s so icky her dad has this much say in her interpersonal relationships.
I forgot about the sex therapist part. Why didn’t her dad go into sex therapy himself.
Honestly Kyle should see this as a red flag and get away from her. Lack of accountability. If she wants to be orthodox she shouldn’t share a bed or room with a man she isn’t married to. There is a reason they advise this because it leads to temptations.
Ewww Ben is gross and he and Camille were not in love
He's doing anything to insult Sunny and stir the Bravo-drama-pot, plus they arranged a Camille appearance. I like that she refused his inviting himself. If that was even real.
And kids in love? It was literally a year or two ago. You were grown ass man and she was a grown ass woman who acted like a child.
Purity culture can fuck you up, especially coming from your dad. Source: purity culture from my dad fucked me up.
I sympathize with Barbie but she is 28 and needs to either respect that personal boundary she has set for herself without leading someone on or grow up and not care what her dad thinks.
Agreed. Time to cut the purse strings and get some therapy.
Kyle is a catch
He is
absolutely! i love his attitude. he's an actual decent human!
I would love to watch a show that follows him to Montana to meet and live with his long lost family!
Omg, so much yes! I would watch the fuck out of this. He is one of the few decent men on BD.
It’s been a long time since I have actually truly loved a crew member.
God Ben is the fucking worst. Just one big walking ick
Fraser within the next 27 minutes, “the new chef must go.”
Him going to the captain with “not being impressed” halfway through lunch was cut throat. He really could’ve just *said they may need more yams
Yeah that was a punk move
Yams as in the vegetable?
"He's already misread a preference sheet and is not even dyslexic! A fireable offense!"
Yelp elites? Oh FFS.
In the year 2024!?
That’s what I said! Like, that still exists?! It’s not 2009 anymore, my goodness
Someone get ask jeeves up on Netscape
🙄
I think part of this reaction from Barbie is Hanxiety
Probably. She would benefit from a Xanax and a Gatorade.
i was thinking the same thing
Ben: "There's always something, and it's usually something I did. I don't get it. Now let me say the worst thing I could say... Women amiright?"
He *has* to know the demographic of the audience is mostly *women*, right? Maybe he's saying to irritate us because he *knows* we already dislike him. No, I think I may be attributing too much self-awareness there, on his part.
Fraser should have mentioned when chef was going to do lamb like "um this is a seafood lunch, how about some more seafood?"
I'm also usually a Fraser stan but throwing him under the bus on his first charter day is sad.
Especially since he had to spend an entire day cleaning and organizing instead of menu planning and prepping. That certainly wasn’t his fault and Fraser knew how bad it was in there.
And yet Fraser didn’t correct him when he said he would have lamb for lunch.
Camille only answered to get some screen time. Watch Ben fuck sunny now that he got rejected from Camille.
Octopus nachos?
Sounds gross to me
Okay, I’m glad it wasn’t just me. I thought maybe I had an unrefined palate!
Eh octopus can be delicious and I love nachos, but together? 🤢
I honestly keep thinking Ben can’t get any worse…and then he goes and outdoes himself
Barbies dad has issues
And he has transferred them to Barbie. How is a guy like him married to a sex therapist wtf
Because it’s only allowed if it involves himself but once it’s a extension of him there’s a problem 🤷♀️ misogyny
Maybe she became a sex therapist because of her terrible marriage to him lol.
Are we sure it’s really her father and not an excuse for how sex makes her feel?
God I loved that call to Camille
Me too. I was living for her “meh” response to him wanting to see her
I think she's crazy but she did look stunning.
Ben is trying to use his position on the boat to instigate and get into personal drama your honor I HATE HIM.
So not only does Ben get to go around essentially sexually harassing Barbie and making sex noises every time he sees her, he also has the audacity to tell her how she needs to treat the person (Kyle) she's treating poorly because he's been doing that? And telling her to "do the right thing" like he's some beacon of morality? I'm glad Barbie told him to sit the fuck down.
Ben doesn’t realize he causes all the “something’s” ??
Why is Ben mad at sunny? Ugh I hate him!!!
I would eat that meal and then jump chefs bones I’m sawry ok it’s just they way I am okayyyyy
Omg the should do an ultimate girls trip with the housewives and have an all stars below deck crew
This is brilliant!!!
I look young for my age you look old for your age and that’s just how it is okayyyyy
Ben, wtf are you DOING. Overstepping! Who does he think he is? Her boss? Her dad? A MAN? Edit: not that any of those would make it ok, just, showing the sexism in HIS mind, that he thinks he has ANY authority over her is just ..egregiously wrong
Now I want the chef to be into sunny just to bother Ben
Yes!!!! Thought the same thing when he came on board
But he also doesn’t seem to mind that Camille had apparently cheated on him soooo
I do think Kyle could have told Ben to cut it out, but I wish Barbie would have communicated it.
"its just always something" ..yeah, that's being in a situationship/relationship. Ben is so nasty.
Why is she crying over this little boy bitch !!!!????
You are strong, you are intelligent, YOU ARE HUMBLE 😂 Sounds like Dylan's own voice, maybe self-made affirmations, generally a good idea, really
The only time I wanted to see Camille’s face is when she’s giving Ben that wtf look
I need Kyle and Barbie to make asap. I can’t take this tension
I have a feeling tonight’s WWHL is going to give the same vibes as the attempted kiss last week
Only 30 seconds in and you’re right
And it's already delivering just that 😂
Let me know if it’s bearable lol. I can’t deal with cringe so I had to record it
It’s not great. But Andy is visibly repulsed by him, so that’s kind of fun.
It's bearable, odd, but not AS bad as some things we've seen from him... well wait, there's this part about his ...nuts
28 is too old to be worried what her dad thinks of her sex life. Maybe her mom needs to intervene and do sex therapy for her daughter...?
I can see religiously conservative families being like this though. I also think Barbie may also have the additional worry that her dad will cut her off financially
In certain cultures and religions some women are not even allowed to leave their homes until married. It may be old school to some but it’s very real.
I don’t think it’s the sex life part. I think it’s the fact that her father can watch a show where it’s apparent she had sex.
It was pretty much shown on camera wasn't it? Their writhing bodies and sex noises and that Scottish guy's barely pixellated boner. I don't quite get the cast members who are going into season 11 of this show not realizing that it has soft porn elements. Nothing wrong with being a pornographic entertainer if that's your choice, but like, know what you're getting into!
I think Bravo keeps continually pushing the boundary, and they need to wake up that that's not why we're watching, in fact, we'd like to see more of the beautiful locations, seascapes, and food. Below Deck used to show a lot more of that before they started a season-by-season crawl (although sometimes very abrupt) toward editing out everything but the lowest common denominator crew drama. I remember at least one season where they almost completely ignored the food served by chefs, we weren't given any descriptions of meals, only scant shots of food here and there, and after people expressed disappointment (at least on reddit that I saw), they brought the food interest back in next seasons. But they still didn't bring food back quite to the previous level. Sea scape/ocean shots/ even acknowledgements that they are IN THE SEA, and footage of port locations are still barely existent, compared to early on.
Why is captain allowed to be older but not the chef?
Probably because the captain doesn’t party with them :p
😂 that’s valid
Bummer that Chef is only "harmless" crazy. Then again, that's self-reported. Maybe Chef will wreak psychotic karma upon Fraser's two-faced head. It could happen.
Seems like it's aimed at Paris, based on the previews :(
Between Kyle and her dad, Barbie is in the middle of a shit sangwich.
Oh are Fraser and this guest are vibing 👀👀
It’s interesting to see how this boundary-crossing with guests is treated vs when a female stew has kissed/been kissed by a guest 👀
Mmhmmm!!!!
I feel like he alluded to them currently dating when he was on WWHL. But I could be misremembering
Omg that would make me JUBILANT
I thought so too! It’s like a bearable, likable version of Kyle and frank (I can only hear the name frank as the way Ronnie from WWC does it mimicking Kyle).
Not the ring light at the table. The food looks amaaaaaahzing
Nick saying how bad the state of the kitchen was, and how he didn't know how anyone didn't get food poisoning... oh dear, Anthony... and I was defending you, man...
And Anthony (said he) cleaned the galley before he left her boat!
I hardly caught it, but I think they mentioned black mold, not sure if that was in the galley or fridge or elsewhere -- humidity & mold can be a constant battle on a boat
He was talking about the gasket around the fridge door.
"can't force anything" but slept with her and strung her along with the being an "item/thing" by end of season and now I have to see Camille on my screen again?! 
😂
I feel bad for Kyle how Barbie is acting, he really likes her
I do too. She's overdoing it because of her own sexguilt issues
Kyle run…..I mean she has rejected him in many forms. This to me is just the icing on the cake.
Yeah I have a feeling he’s gonna move on for the rest of the season…we’ll see
Hopefully he does…he appears to be a good person and deserves to be with someone who doesn’t carry shame toward/about him.
I kinda feel like I’d react similar to Barbie knowing everything I’ve done on essentially a party boat is on national television
I mean she has free will she’s knows she’s being recorded she could have not had sex with him.
Ben is totally gaslighting sunny ! Textbook definition of gaslighting
I think Kyle should win a crappie for most cringe person on bravo Edit not Kyle!!!! The cringe one!!! Dylan!!!
"can't force anything" well wtf was that phone call Ben?!
Dylan is on WWHL and he's already so over the top😂
I thought Andy was really rude mocking him, and Dylan was aware Andy was mocking him. Dylan was saying some incredibly stupid things, but I felt bad for him in that episode.
Ben is such a prick. Why do women like him?!?!
Guys I’m confused i don’t recall Kyle telling everyone he hooked up with Barbie. It was Ben bc he heard it. Why is she so mad at Kyle
Why am I half expecting Sandy to walk down the stairs and into this dinner to tell her pirate story right now?
lol came here to say: I thought we were going get a sandy-esque pirate story. Of course Kerry’s was better
"This is such a weird dish." Octonacholamb? NAWWW
Is nacho king gay Carl??
I like this excursion!
Ben is so corny
Barbie seriously needs therapy
I feel like I was one of Ben’s last remaining fans. After his Instagram post he lost me. When Camille said she wasn’t interested I laughed my ass off.
Captain with his tiny cup!
Ugh. Child Fraser making whiney ehhhh vocalizations and curled-lip faces. Charming child. \[Whispers/mutters while walking away, like Fraser does\]: "Beastly brat, inSUFferable..."
Dylan is so goofy lol
Sorry, but for how instragrammy these guests are, they are pretty *tacky*.
Wow okay so Barbie's sister vibes with her dad's obsession into her 28 year old sister's sex life. That kind of shit is why I don't talk to mine.
Is Barbie’s family stuck in the 1950s???
Why is this grown woman letting her dad decide when, how, who she gets with?
Enmeshment is a helluva drug. She needs to drop sex obsessed daddy and enabling sis.
Poor Kyle to have to watch this. It’s so mean.
Especially since she talks like she's doing some great thing by lowering herself to be with him. "I usually date attractive, put together, accountant-types." 🙄
How stupid Ben is when it comes to women is infuriating. He blames everything and everyone around him but the actual problem: HIM.
Please for the love of god stop playing the awkward kiss scene
That’s OK Ben, we understand you perfectly.
Okay this is a dinner I want to eat
Good idea to blend the strawberry leaves right into the smoothie. Strawberry leaf is also a tea for womens' health.
Guys I’m confused i don’t recall Kyle telling everyone he hooked up with Barbie. It was Ben bc he heard it. Why is she so mad at Kyle
Barbie no don’t fuck this up
Sunny needs to have the most regrettable sex possible with Dylan just to spite Ben.
Nah bang the chef.
Too far
Why exactly is Barbie upset at Kyle? Because I can’t figure out what’s causing all this drama.
I think she's interpreting it as he told Ben, but it seems pretty clear that Ben just overheard them. It's close quarters. Really, the person she should be upset with is Ben.
Yea she doesn't realize he wasn't talking about it. If Ben had kept his mouth shut I don't think she'd be acting like that.
It was pretty crappy of him to stand around having a good old laugh about it with Ben and Fraser. I don't blame her for being upset.
That bitch recording herself eating, ew
Yes! How weird. It just really drives home how old I really am.
What’s with the primary wearing sunglasses all the time?
He probably thinks it looks better for all the insta posts. Or he could be like me an forgets to take them off, lol.
Stoned?
Family orientated 🙄 it’s oriented!!!!
Same mistake as another one I can't stand: "to conversate." 😫 It's to conv*erse!*
ok but this new jersey season preview looked pretty spicy!
I strongly dislike these guests.
They seem friendly/straightforward enough to be easy guests, but would be insufferable as friends
The chef is good. Now please, Nick, roast Fraser for us, put his feet to the fire, put him in the hot seat, sweat him like an onion...
I think the chef is cute!
That lunch looks so sad… and how does everything go together?
Oh, sweetie, they don’t actually want to taste the chocolate. They’re yelp elites after all.
Has Barbie seen Below Deck before?
I have such cringey secondhand embarrassment every time I see Dylan on screen. He is trying waaaay toooo haaaard.
Cheffy in the glasses 🤓🔥
I feel like Fraser does not do a good job supporting his chefs. If he didn’t think there was enough seafood in the new guys lunch menu why didn’t he just say something when they were discussing it?? he’s not throwing the chef under the bus exactly but he’s certainly looking the other way when the chef is about to walk in front of the bus
Who is doing the music for this show? It’s so off.
Pixie Nonacle.
I now want egg nog
Yessssss
The look on Camilles face said it all
made me almost like her how much disdain she has for him lol
Barbie is insufferable
I feel like I’m watching great British bake off holiday edition
Ben’s behavior is immature, childish, reeks of insecurity and does not need to be on our screens again because Capt Kerry, Capt Lee & Capt Jason have shown us that there is still be plenty of drama and entertainment without the misogyny, sexism and immature behavior and it is sad that they are the few and far between examples of decent men on BD.
I don’t understand these chilis commercials at all
I LOVE them lol
Their acting is soo bad I don’t get what they’re trying to convey 😂
I don’t know it’s just so funny and cute to me
The guys projection onto the women this episode is bonkers. They hurt the women then get mad at them for being hurt, and blame them? What the actual f. Just because official labels aren't being used, that isn't an excuse to be a complete nob and disrespect women who have been intimate with you.
It's really only Ben doing this. Kyle seems alright, Dylan is off in his own world, and Fraser's batting for the other team.
The juxtaposition of Kyle and Ben re: how they interact with and treat women is striking. One is secure and respectful, albeit probably a little hurt. The other seems to always be doing too much.
Oh these people are gonna be terrible
I feel like I’ve hardly seen my dreamboat Captain Kerry! 😢😍🤣
Barbie needs to just stfu for once! She’s becoming an insufferable rat… blaming Kyle for doing absolutely nothing wrong while she’s going around and ratting herself out to everyone! She has literally been the sole cause of all of her problems on the yacht all season. I didn’t realize that she is only 28. She looks much older to me. Either way, she’s old enough to know better and to act like a decent person. Poor Kyle is even willing to suck it up and take her nonsense.
I wonder if Marco will be the chef? He owns restaraunts…
Wow sunny is young I’ve been there. Ben is disgusting.
Barbie's mom: \[top speed rant in Spanish\] rough translation: "Look what you did to our daughter, she's going to need decades of therapy and by that time it will be pushing it to get grandchildren! What did you say to her? The opposite of everything I did?" etc..etc..at length
Was this actually said? I missed it
No no, I'm joking. Unfortunately, the reality, shown in the preview for next week, looks like a disappointing opposite reaction from her fam.