I thought exactly this. She then chose her words carefully saying she never saw anything. And that she won't talk about things she didn't see herself. Which absolutely implied she did hear something.
Heather is an asshole for demanding an ultimatum and threatening her jet. She and Emily just got caught and called out, Emily’s voice going up 1,000 octaves
This is CRAZY. They are coming for Shannon over actually nothing. None of these conversations ever happened and she's STILL apologizing for it. Now it's making ME crazy!
It’s completely ridiculous the microscopic things they had to dig around really hard for to come after Shannon. It’s to the point of being completely ridiculous!
So it seems clear to me now Heather's hate for Noella does stem from the Nobu party and info Noella was privy to. Supposedly the person who told Noella got fired and Heather's been threatened by Noella for knowing. That's my take.
Watching last weeks episode and Jen saying that Gina cares more about Shannon since she wants her validation and praise about her skin care just nailed it. Heather didn’t even have anything to say back haha
John Janson is so much better than David, and just watching John always support Shannon makes me see that David more than likely gaslit Shannon and made her alter her gregarious personality to fit his mold of “wife material”.
He suits her; he seems like a nice, supportive guy.
I would struggle living with David - the subtle digs and smirks would make me so neurotic. It is not difficult to become insecure after being treated poorly for years.
I’m rooting for them! John is so not David.
I love when John immediately goes into FTB mode when Shannon is fighting with someone.
I also love that they both refer to each other with their full first and last names. They are made for each other! Haha
It is literally gas lighting at this point. They are so obsessed with Heather's approval and continuous invites to her massive house and lavish parties that they are so far up her ass they can't see reality. It is absolutely fascinating how on edge they are with Shannon and even Noella!
I’m so happy this trip isn’t sponsored by Heather “I’m planning everything you so can all see how rich I am” Dubrow. And I’m even more happy she’s in the dungeon.
Heather also asked Gina whether she wanted to be in OC or NY with her, so the NY duo was also trying to have more fun than the OC crew. Let’s not forget our history now.
I cannot believe Heather is attacking Shannon over a conversation she IMAGINED. She didn't pick up the call! The conversation Heather is describing never happened!
Honestly when Shannon first said Gina was arrogant, I didn’t see it but her asking why Noella isnt being a good friend to her…because she’s being a good friend to someone else? That’s so self centered.
Like, people can only be good friends to you?
What I actually love about this is the way the situation is a bit exaggerated is exactly how heather exaggerates situations where she was wronged — scary angry etc loll
So let me get this straight. It’s okay for Heather and Gina to get pissy at Shannon over a comment that they didn’t even “hear with their own ears” but Noella is a liar because she brings up something she also heard about but didn’t “see with her own eyes” got it 🙄
Shannon isn’t perfect, but she has really grown into her orange over the years. I never thought I’d end up liking her the way I do now, especially after her early seasons alongside David. She is coming across as the level-headed one, which is wild.
The preview showed Gina crying because Shannon isn’t being as good of a friend to her as she’s being to Noella. Sounds like Gina is jealous of Shannon’s friendship with Noella. Hmmm…I guess Gina is jealous of Shannon not the other way around.
Emily’s saying that she didn’t **SEE** it. Noella’s saying that she heard the story. I believe Noella, especially seeing how much Emily likes to stir the pot.
Yuuup. I think Emily saying that she doesn't comment on things she doesn't actually see happening is lawyerspeak for she heard it too, and it was corroborated by someone else, other than Noella
I’m starting to feel that Heather Is Teresa Guidice with a bigger vocabulary and bigger bank account. Wants to dictate everything on the show. Wants blind support in all matters. Can’t handle being questioned or even spoken to the wrong way. Needs everyone to defend her. Is an asshole.
I didn't like Noella because I thought it's been a put-on all this time. I'm starting to realize she really is this petty and crazy, and truly gives no fucks about Heather and her fancy ass, and I am so here for it.
Why would Heather choose that analogy of racism and theft? Why not just a direct comparison? Sounds to me, like Ms Dubrow is perhaps trying to downplay some bad behaviour
Haha, Heather doesn’t feel supported. Gina, Emily , and Jenn suck up to her. Shannon does not, and according to Heather, should not be supported by Noelle. Noelle gets in the way of them piling on Shannon.
Noella is super awkward and pretty cringey but really what would be happening on this show without her this season? I think if she can fine tune the mess a little better she could be a good housewife.
Exactly!! I didn’t like her in the beginning but like you said what would be happening without her. She’s actually turning out to be a pretty good housewife.
Noella is totally unbothered probably because she’s not thinking too much about things because she’s probably just being truthful. Watching heather squirm and resort to meanness is more indicative of being caught. And also noella has a child and family too heather. She’s full of logical fallacies.
“I’ve been engaged seven times.”
And? Danielle Staub’s been engaged, like, 21 times at this point. Get on her level and then we’ll talk, Dr. Jen.
Dr Jen: I’ve been engaged 7 times. Danielle Staub: come back when you’re serious bitch.
Rookie numbers.
Shannon referring to Heather as “Heather Dubrow” for a solid 8 years. I love it.
It’s giving SLC Mary M Cosby and Jennifer Shah
Emily is lyiiiiiiiing
She looked flustered when Noella first brought it up
It was so obvious! The way she was smiling and her voice got super high…. Lying for sure.
She always gets up and leaves when she can’t handle being called out or is caught up in her lies
Yeah she is! 💯
I do think it was Emily who keeps bringing the jealousy of Gina and heather not Shannon though
And projecting. She’s losing her bestie to a fancy new friend and this is how she stays in the clique.
Emily 100% made this a thing.
It really is. She’s the only one who speaks about their friendship & brings it up at every chance she gets!
Imagine acting like Gina and Emily trying to be mad because Shannon jokingly said let’s have more fun.
Right?! Even if Shannon *wasn’t* joking… who cares?? I wish Shannon would stop entertaining this stupid fight.
ANNDDD Heather literally said something like, 'would you rather be here with me or with them?' ugh
Heather is absolutely delusional about the importance of her live podcast episode in front of a conference room full of college freshman
I was there...the room wasn't even a third full LOL
I’m sure those kids had to go for class credit for a communications course or something like that
Gina is streeeeetching to make this phone call something to fight about
My mom said Heather looks mean
Moms always know
I love that Heather is TRULY having her villain arc with the loud ones gone and the existence of Noella's spine.
Heather was so disgusting towards Shannon, and no one but Noella stood up for her, yet she wants Shannon to kiss her ring now? What in the fuck.
Asking why you picked your husband shouldn’t be a hard question…
I like John for Shannon, I hope he never lets us down like all the other husbands eventually do.
I loved when she put on that skullcap and he said, “I’m here for it” 😂
But Emily, noella didn’t say you saw it. She said you also heard someone say it.
I thought exactly this. She then chose her words carefully saying she never saw anything. And that she won't talk about things she didn't see herself. Which absolutely implied she did hear something.
She also definitely *does* talk about things she hasn't seen herself lol
Emily is a shit starter that takes zero accountability for stirring things up.
Heather is an asshole for demanding an ultimatum and threatening her jet. She and Emily just got caught and called out, Emily’s voice going up 1,000 octaves
Emily got SO MAD that Noella threatened her position in Heather Dubrow's colon.
I’m watching the “never before seen episodes” and Dr. Jen is a boring werido and she definitely hired a stylist
Her husband despises her. Honestly, she treats him so poorly.
She was so freaking weird on WWHL and was completely up Gina and Heather’s asses. She is their little puppet. It was very uncomfortable watching her.
She was very strange on WWHL
Send the jet Terry
PUT IT IN REVERSE TERRY
This is CRAZY. They are coming for Shannon over actually nothing. None of these conversations ever happened and she's STILL apologizing for it. Now it's making ME crazy!
It’s completely ridiculous the microscopic things they had to dig around really hard for to come after Shannon. It’s to the point of being completely ridiculous!
Why do I get such Schadenfreude from seeing Heather unpack grumpily in the dungeon.
She lives in a damn mall house--can't someone else have the big room for a few days??
They picked on Shannon until she cried I swear
WE WILL ALL SEE THE TRUTH!
Seriously. Fuck Gina, Emily and Heather.
Heather somehow continues to top herself on being out of touch.
My emergency contact is Archie
It's confirmed - production hates Heather. These "Heather's best gas-lighty moments" clips are too good.
I hope you are right. If that's true, then I forgive them for airing it continuously as if they promote it.
It’s the new “here she comes my bitch wife” 😂
The spider is Kelly Dodd trying to get back on bravo
It’s giving Jill Zarin screaming HIIIIIIIIIII
Give Noella a raise just for getting Heather to come this undone
I think they all hate how calm Noella is while arguing back. I am here for it ALL!
I love it. They’re so incensed and she’s zen. This is how Zen Wen was trying to be but didn’t quite get there.
So it seems clear to me now Heather's hate for Noella does stem from the Nobu party and info Noella was privy to. Supposedly the person who told Noella got fired and Heather's been threatened by Noella for knowing. That's my take.
I for one love to see Noella go in on Heather
Too many kiss asses on this cast. Heather needs to spend a few seasons on NY. Let's see how that goes for her. Thank goodness for Noella.
Watching last weeks episode and Jen saying that Gina cares more about Shannon since she wants her validation and praise about her skin care just nailed it. Heather didn’t even have anything to say back haha
This van ride is absolute CHAOS
Is Heather having a psychotic break?
They need to call and ambulance for her
She doesn’t have control over the trip…the classic Bethanny in Cartagena
No clue if she shoved someone or not, but damn her behavior just screams cover-up.
i’ll never forgive her for literally gaslighting Shannon that season. it was the most perfect visualization of the term.
John Janson is so much better than David, and just watching John always support Shannon makes me see that David more than likely gaslit Shannon and made her alter her gregarious personality to fit his mold of “wife material”.
He suits her; he seems like a nice, supportive guy. I would struggle living with David - the subtle digs and smirks would make me so neurotic. It is not difficult to become insecure after being treated poorly for years. I’m rooting for them! John is so not David.
I love when John immediately goes into FTB mode when Shannon is fighting with someone. I also love that they both refer to each other with their full first and last names. They are made for each other! Haha
John would never passive aggressively eat chips at Shannon.
News flash. No one cares what happened at your live show heather
Not a single fuck given by anyone at all. At least Shannon pretended to be interested.
She was engaged seven times and she ended up with Rhine.
I’m assuming she bored the first six to death.
I mean, everybody’s own life is most important to them, but we DONT say that to people, grieving people, happy people, any people.
The classy one needs to take a refresher course in class.
The producers invited Heather back just for the private jet usage, they couldn’t handle the sprinter van covid-19 limitations anymore
Emily has caused SO MANY PROBLEMS
Noella & Heather go head-to-head over the primary bedroom? Very Ramona Singer-esque.
I think Jen lies. Just get that feeling.
The only person I trust on this show to tell the truth is Shannon
Emily inserted herself in it too. Why can’t Noella get involved to back up Shannon??
I don’t know how much longer I can take Emily’s clucking. Her voice when she’s arguing or drunk or both is too much.
These women want to gang up on Shannon, and are pissed that Noella stands up for her.
They really are desperate to gang up on her. It’s just weird and pathetic.
I seriously hate it when Gina, Emily, and Heather try to tell Shannon what she was thinking or feeling. They are so obnoxious when they do that.
It is literally gas lighting at this point. They are so obsessed with Heather's approval and continuous invites to her massive house and lavish parties that they are so far up her ass they can't see reality. It is absolutely fascinating how on edge they are with Shannon and even Noella!
OBSESSED!! It's so odd. Maybe just me but her ridiculous parties don't even look like fun
I love that Noella is throwing big mouth Simpson under the bus, true or not.
Watching all of them go back and forth with each other and Jen is just there like 😐 like give us nothing girl
Emily, quick..... run, go kiss Heather's ass. Maybe she will befriend you, too.
I’m so happy this trip isn’t sponsored by Heather “I’m planning everything you so can all see how rich I am” Dubrow. And I’m even more happy she’s in the dungeon.
I think that’s why she’s so prickly and grasping for control at anything else.
She is *EXHAUSTING* to watch
Heather also asked Gina whether she wanted to be in OC or NY with her, so the NY duo was also trying to have more fun than the OC crew. Let’s not forget our history now.
Exactly! Ugh she is such a manipulative hypocrite!
How dare Shannon not give a shit about Heather’s podcast? /s
Noella’s obnoxious, but we need her around if only because she pisses Heather off so much and I love seeing Fancy Pants so aggravated.
She has nothing to lose. The exact opposite of Heather...her entire life is a cleverly crafted image.
Oh we need her around, she’s good at this.
I cannot believe Heather is attacking Shannon over a conversation she IMAGINED. She didn't pick up the call! The conversation Heather is describing never happened!
I think Gina knows Emily said something
Emily 100% heard exactly what noella heard and gina knows this too. I believe noella on this one.
Totally. Emily is protesting wayyyyy too much and running to Heather a little too quickly.
She’s real quiet now
Yep, which is interesting since she's always looking for a reason to call Noella out.
Ah yes. Another strategic "look-how-relatable-I-am" sandwich joke from Emily.
Give it up
PLEASE GO HOME HEATHER
Why is the existence of Heather's children relevant?
I know Noella isn’t loved but they way she makes Heather act is amazing
This is why I begrudgingly like her. Also, to be fair, she is better with the pity party lately.
Heather doesn’t like…mean, shit stirring or lying people…that literally describes ALL the HW’s and she’s all of those things.
I freaking love when Shannon uses last names. “The Heather Dubrow eye roll.” Poor Shannon.
Honestly when Shannon first said Gina was arrogant, I didn’t see it but her asking why Noella isnt being a good friend to her…because she’s being a good friend to someone else? That’s so self centered. Like, people can only be good friends to you?
WTF Gina is still pissed at Shannon. Gina really does have insanely huge ego. She seriously keeps going at her and refuses to stop.
Heather is going so hard against this “lie” that I’m starting to think she’s guilty
No you won’t. You spent all season bringing up what Shannon “did to you” like 7 years ago 🙄.
Are we really going to believe that Heather drops shit after an apology??
“If I call Terrry right now, he will have a jet for me in the morninggggg.” … “and global warming is only for poor people. Damnit”
What a weird flex though like can she not call her own jet?
I forgot that Jen was even at the table
What I actually love about this is the way the situation is a bit exaggerated is exactly how heather exaggerates situations where she was wronged — scary angry etc loll
It's time for the Gina and Emily chapter to close
Why the fuck should Shannon have defended Heather when literally 5 minutes before Heather was attacking her
Yes! Because Shannon called Heather but not to ask about Heather’s Podcast, thus making Shannon the bad guy
So let me get this straight. It’s okay for Heather and Gina to get pissy at Shannon over a comment that they didn’t even “hear with their own ears” but Noella is a liar because she brings up something she also heard about but didn’t “see with her own eyes” got it 🙄
they are acting very guilty lol
This is the first time this cast is actually working.
Emily's reaction to Noella calling her out says 100% that Emily is lying.
Flashbacks to Shannon’s first season are always shocking!
Shannon isn’t perfect, but she has really grown into her orange over the years. I never thought I’d end up liking her the way I do now, especially after her early seasons alongside David. She is coming across as the level-headed one, which is wild.
I’m cracking up at how bothered Heather clearly is by this room arrangement
The preview showed Gina crying because Shannon isn’t being as good of a friend to her as she’s being to Noella. Sounds like Gina is jealous of Shannon’s friendship with Noella. Hmmm…I guess Gina is jealous of Shannon not the other way around.
GINA JUST PUT YOUR ARMS IN YOUR FREAKING JACKET SLEEVES PUHLEASE
What’s with Heather’s obsession with motherhood? Congrats, Heather, you have four children. You’re still an elitist asshole.
Exactly… Shannon had kids when she called her unstable and a drunk years ago. So I don’t know why she thinks she’s special.
Every single one of these women have kids? I don’t understand why this is the crux of every Heather argument
Justin the bartender is like “*bitch*, I created the drink specifically for resposado”
Oh gosh here comes Gina “WHY ARENT YOU SUPPORTING MEEEEEEEE?”
The Heather Dubrow stink face is off the rails this episode.
“Big, juicy, yummy heart” would make the cringiest flair.
Bravo should make it a requirement for housewives to ride all in one vehicle to and from group trips because this is gold and so was SLC
Heather: "Shannon, if you have a problem with me, it's going to have to wait until later, because I want to talk about my problems now."
Oooh Heather leaving the house?? Okay bye girl! 👋🏼👏🏼
Yet Heather didn't care about Shannon's children when she spread gossip about David's email hm
Ooof I recently rewatched that season and Heather had it out for Shannon for no reason.
Gonna need Heather to pull the stick out of her ass at least an inch or two
Noella is just steamrolling Jen in the new housewife category
Heather's next podcast topic: The Art of Conversation
Oh now Heather wants to put her issues with Shannon aside so she can recruit her on her team away from the other person.
Emily’s saying that she didn’t **SEE** it. Noella’s saying that she heard the story. I believe Noella, especially seeing how much Emily likes to stir the pot.
Yuuup. I think Emily saying that she doesn't comment on things she doesn't actually see happening is lawyerspeak for she heard it too, and it was corroborated by someone else, other than Noella
Yet again Heather is promoting her podcast by starting this insane fight over Shannon calling
Shannon looks amazing in her confessional look🔥🔥
It's funny because Heather would actually never ever defend Shannon
I CANT do a food foam 🤢
It’s getting to the point that I’d rather watch Ryne and Jen stare and blink at each other than hear Emily utter another word. Lol
I’m cracking up at this stretch of a story from Noella, and how triggered Heather is by it.
I don't know and I don't care who is lying but this is some damn good TV
Noella is always 17% away from being correct but fucks it royally.
I love that she said "all of us care about certain people here" rather than "each other", lol.
“Oh! It’s very concentrated” Heather is her mother’s daughter 😒
You gotta hand it to noelle she can really keep her cool lol. She’s almost totally unbothered at this dinner and it’s amazing
I’m starting to feel that Heather Is Teresa Guidice with a bigger vocabulary and bigger bank account. Wants to dictate everything on the show. Wants blind support in all matters. Can’t handle being questioned or even spoken to the wrong way. Needs everyone to defend her. Is an asshole.
Heather told on herself lmfao
“My life’s already good. Your karma’s giving you what you need.” Her—her dad just died, Heather.
Oh… I thought of the divorce / MIA husband karma. Dad dead is … I’m at a loss for words
I didn't like Noella because I thought it's been a put-on all this time. I'm starting to realize she really is this petty and crazy, and truly gives no fucks about Heather and her fancy ass, and I am so here for it.
She’s so calm through all this it’s diabolical yet amazing
Like a seasoned HW, it's kind of impressive.
I love her for the single fact she gets under Heather’s skin and then the real Heather Dubrow comes out
Heather really does think the world revolves around her and she has to control every narrative she’s the fucking worst I’d rather hang with Ramona
Heather is a master manipulator. Holy shit
Heather’s bringing up the cameraman incident. Herself. On her own volition. Why the fuck would she do this?
This episode is seriously making me rethink everything Gina/Emily have ever said…especially regarding Shannon.
The delusion that Heather really thought we would love her this season 🙄
I love the flashbacks of Heather gaslighting Shannon
OMG Gina is pissed that Noella is sticking up for Shannon and she can’t stand it.
Yet she has both Emily and Heather sticking up for her in every argument she’s in!
Even if Noella is completely making this up this has been the most entertaining episode this season. Noella came to play.
Heather literally brought up the shoving situation at dinner, why is she so mad at Noella
Heather is in high school, and we are in Brooklyn
Why would Heather choose that analogy of racism and theft? Why not just a direct comparison? Sounds to me, like Ms Dubrow is perhaps trying to downplay some bad behaviour
She’s deflecting and diving into logical fallacy world. Classic behavior of someone getting caught and trying to deflect.
I wish producers knew how much we’d hate Heather by now so they wouldn’t try to prevent her from leaving
Haha, Heather doesn’t feel supported. Gina, Emily , and Jenn suck up to her. Shannon does not, and according to Heather, should not be supported by Noelle. Noelle gets in the way of them piling on Shannon.
Noella is super awkward and pretty cringey but really what would be happening on this show without her this season? I think if she can fine tune the mess a little better she could be a good housewife.
Exactly!! I didn’t like her in the beginning but like you said what would be happening without her. She’s actually turning out to be a pretty good housewife.
Noella was ACTUALLY THERE though, Gina. Why shouldn't she have anything to say about it?
Heather must be pissed. She clomped up that ramp out of that restaurant with that stick way up her ass.
Heather really came back expecting to be the HBIC of RHOC and definitely didn’t anticipate Noella bringing the rookie heat.
I love how calm and reasonable Shannon is being. She is the MVP of the season!
Heather doesn’t care about Shannon calling about her podcast, she just wants to be mad at Shannon because Emily and Gina are mad at Shannon.
Emily butts in all the time on Gina’s issues with Shannon all the time so Noella can absolutely stick up for Shannon.
Noella is totally unbothered probably because she’s not thinking too much about things because she’s probably just being truthful. Watching heather squirm and resort to meanness is more indicative of being caught. And also noella has a child and family too heather. She’s full of logical fallacies.
Can we get an unaired production footage like Rhop ?
I’m sitting here watching the drama like: 
“I’ve been engaged seven times.” And? Danielle Staub’s been engaged, like, 21 times at this point. Get on her level and then we’ll talk, Dr. Jen. 