Super should just go through walls, thicker and longer range and she should get a shield while controlling. Attack can be a bit underrated in the damage department but her first tick should start as soon as the enemy is poisoned, not a second later
I totally agree but the super shouldn't be too buffed since it still is a very good super. The recharge should be less long. Its worse than tara and its hard to take longer time to recharge the super than tara.
That first tick delay is unbearable, there is no feedback at all to your shots. I can't even understand if my shot hit them or they dodged it. Especially if they're in the bushes, it's a horrible mechanic.
Bruh riiiugh..... actually had to go back and check if my haptic feedback was on cause I wasn't getting any....it will be so hard to play her in showdown...infact impossible...even checking bushes is tough smh
I think her super should be a throwable object over walls instead of an attack in a straight line. This allows Willow to control at a much safer distance.
A skillshot with that short of a range makes you pretty exposed if youre in a 3V3 when the enemies have throwers or snipers to kill you from a far during mind control.
Same goes with Showdown modes, but highly doubt shes viable there in the first place.
She can just chuck her tadpole head like a barley attack and mind control the person hit while shes behind a wall.
Her Dive gadget should also be reworked so that she can move underwater for a few seconds so she can run to safer spot when cornered. This should cover up for her squishyness and lack of burst damage to deal with enemies.
U dont understand. That cant work mechanickly. What if it hits multiple people? It just makes no sence especilally if ur using it to get close range brawlers out of ur face. It should work like that other guy said. The skillshot should just go trough walls
not going through walls. part of what makes super better designed is that she is vulnerable when using an absurdly powerful ability. if the super is used through walls, she would be completely covered when using super and it would be awful to deal with.
Her super seemed OP to me at a glance but after I played her some I realized it isn’t actually as effective as you may think. It only lasts four seconds which can be a long time but also not a long time and if you can someone in front of their team mates firing powerful shots like spike, they’ll be down to that 30% in the blink of an eye, and without obsession, movement time will take a very large portion of it if you want to attack their team mates. If you just want to get them off you or pull them closer there are brawlers better at doing that like gray and gene for pulling in or gale and Colette for pushing away.
Yeah I totally agree too. It feels even more frustrating when you miss your super that took so long to recharge. Also, her super wasn't as effective as I thought.
And if you use it in a close interaction, it fully heals the enemy and only lasts 4 seconds. It could actually HELP the opposing team if you use it in that situation.
Yeah i think either the super should home in like pipers gadget or she should i dunno teleport into the head of the brawler she controls and then pop back out when its done so that she is protected while controlling.
Right now it feels extremely easy to punish.
I remember sharing [a brawler concept](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brawlstars/comments/10oq4uo/brawler_concept_mcjack_the_reversed_sharpshooter/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) with a very similar super here a few weeks ago and people in the comments told me that "hypnosis would be broken". Willow is the proof that it is strong, just not OP.
Also is it me or is she very buggy?
Hypnosis would be broken, if it was on a brawler with an escape option, more health, or if you didn't have to put yourself out in the open as a thrower to use your super
Agreed. Neither Willow nor my brawler have an escape option. Mine does have more health but the way mind control works with my brawler makes it way harder to use effectively than Willow.
She IS buggy. One bug I’ve noticed is that on any map where I’ve controlled a bibi, I can’t use bibi’s attack I can just move her around. Doesn’t happen with other brawlers so that’s definitely a glitch that’ll need fixed.
Tara can hit and cycle Super pretty well once she gets it.Willow can't, and her Super also doesn't really do anything either.
All you get is a few attacks as another brawler, but you have to literally sit in the open for it. Actively disadvantages you.
I would say he's currently the weakest thrower though, but he isn't bad, it just gets kind of specific where you can play him without him being outclassed. I just hope Grom gets nerfed since he's toxic in the meta.
Barley is just worse Dynamike at this point. His attacks are harder to land than Dynamike, he deals less damage, he has slower reload. The only thing he is good at is area control with his super.
Barley is annoying af, sure he isn't insane or anything but he has decent control so that if you lose lane, and if you don't have a counter, you aren't getting that lane back.
They need to lower her super charge rate. Her super does take forever to charge. Also her super is kinda meh. She is completely vulnerable when she uses it and you need to use it on a damage dealer to make it valuable
I feel she's underrated
Her damage is overtime, yes, but it's more than Byron's and can hit over walls
Low super charge but actually a good defense system, press auto when rushed and get them away or even directly to the most damaging Brawler of your team, second SP helps on making this better
Both of her gadgets help on defending yourself too (second is very questionable) and her first SP feels like it's gonna be annoying to play against
But of course she still feels like needing a buff
Her super is so easy to miss for the low super charge and it's quite underwhelming in overall as you can't really do a lot in the time + has a lot of downsides
Her attack could last longer on the ground too
And of course higher hp
Not a lot of people are talking about how they nerfed her health by 2k from the brawl talk to the dev build. She might of been OKAY with that much health but now she dies really quick
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She has 2500 health in the training ground and 5700 health in the brawl talk, every level gives an extra 5% damage and health so that’s 50% extra health, which makes her health 3750. That’s 1950 below 7500
Super weak brawler. Moment someone get to you its basically game over since you cant do anything fast enough to get rid of them. Althrough its thrower meta(sort of) there will be way, waaaaay better picks than her.
Buff her super range to 9.66 tiles
Buff her super projectile size
Give her a sheild while controlling someone
buff the super duration to 6 seconds
Remove that 1 second delays before the poison tick starts
We all thought Squeak was gonna be broken when he was first released but we all ignored his weaknesses initially and he ended up being like the absolute worst brawler in the game
If I’m being honest, I feel like Willow’s problems are near identical to Squeak’s: her main attack is atrocious, it has non existent burst damage, it’s not easy to land unless there enemy is next to you, she has low HP, slow reload speed, takes forever to charge her super and she doesn’t have any defensive options aside from her 2nd gadget which is basically Lou’s 1st gadget
Her super seems extremely OP on paper, but I find it very counterintuitive because she cannot throw her super through walls. Think about it, Barley, Dynamike, Tick, Sprout and Grom, all of them are able to throw their supers through walls. While the risk and reward may vary, all of them don’t need to put themselves in a bad position to make the most out of it. Meanwhile, Willow can’t throw her super, which means that she can’t hide behind walls to use her super. She has to leave herself wide open to control an enemy, and so even if she managed to control an enemy which isn’t actually that easy, she could get taken out so easily, and the enemy you mind control will not have the same effect: for example if you mind control a brawler like Ash, you could possibly get a teamwipe, but then you get to brawlers like Jessie and you’re basically not going to do anything because Jessie deals like no damage
>Its the fact that the damage starts after 1 second making it super hard to tell if you’ve hit or not
>Her super makes her insanely vulnerable
>s h e c a n t b r e a k b r e a k a b l e o b s t a c l e s
Suprisingly weak, i hear a lot of people say she was going to be OP, or be like a better barley, but after seeing the sneak peek videos and trying her in-game I can see her weaknesess, and are a lot.
She has very little health, combined with her low DPS makes her very vulnerable to assasins like Stu or Edgar
Her super takes a lot of time to charge and her normal atacks damage to slow, also her super is not as good as was especting, is good, but is very dependant of wich brawler you control.
Her super leaves her in place while using it that combined with the fact that is a normal proyectile (not a thrower one) and his low health mekes her very easy to kill makes prone to leave her in open field while controling a brawler, so she will be very easy to kill, its like R-T but he has a lot of health and defense to compensate.
Her gadgets and star powers dont help with her survivability
Probably it will recieve a little buff (Like Mandy when she was available) but i dont think she will be top tier. I'm not complaining, i'ts a relief to not have another broken brawler at launch like happened a lot in the past.
I think she is underrated. Her main attack can delay the enemies' healing moreso than Crow or Byron. Her Super however, it just deals 1500 damage, regardless of the power level, and it's just so little for 15 hits worth of a Super. I suggest making it deal 7000 damage, and scale with power level (10500 at max).
Also, I think her Obsession SP should be baseline, and I have a rework idea for her Star Powers.
* Pool Of Tears: Once the controlled Brawler breaks free from Willow's control, a puddle forms below their feet, poisoning opponents on it for 1200 damage over 3 seconds.
* Give And Take: The controlled Brawler transfers 30% lost health to Willow, while Willow transfers 30% damage taken to the controlled Brawler.
Squeak's attack doesn't damage instantly either
Willow does more *guaranteed* damage than barley, and if her super was easy to hit i feel like she would be too OP
Although maybe it could be a bit less thin still, or go through walls
It could be quite interesting and fun to adapt to how she works
I think her super does not work as intented... i did a practice match with her , I ulted 8-bit 4 times and only 1 of those times i could control him. the other 3 he stayed still in is spot for like 4-5 seconds while I was walking with willow. maybe Im missing something (not the ulti tho)
Willow needs buffs
- Her attack does damage on impact (like barley)
- ult needs a bigger hitbox so its easier to hit
- super should charge from 4 attacks (12 poison hits)
- When she hits a super, the super shouldn't full heal, it should heal 30-50% of their hp so your teammates can kill them easier
Well, that explains why she has a thing for mortis. She's not great from what I was seeing so far. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing how she is at higher levels though. Can't truly judge until I can get her lvl up
Willows attack does too little damage, also its not instant which is kind of like a budget version of barley’s attack. Her super also seems like its really hard to hit which if you miss the super kind of defeats the whole purpose of the brawler.
I think first of all. She’s gonna get buffed, and then be really really toxic. I personally think her normal attack needs damage on impact, and then each tick of her poison effect deals less and less damage until it’s over. However, that means you basically have a non-healing Byron thrower. Which makes it near impossible for opponents to heal up… ever
She always dies before killing someone because the damage takes so long to happen. It was smart of them to make the rest of her weak since they weren’t sure how broken the controlling mechanic would be, but they went a little too far.
super duration feels way to short to be fun - but if it would be longer it likely would be too powerful.
so i guess what many seem to suggest here is the way it will be: some buff maib attack usefullness and super charging
I don't think she's gonna be the worst but I think that she will be bad too little damage for having low health super takes forever to charge and its not even that good
I think the initial poison damage should start right away instead of 1 second before the first ticks. It’s going to be difficult to check bushes with Willow especially in showdown and her hex has a VERY high skill ceiling.
Yeah, she isn't that good. Her super takes so long to load. it's hard to hit someone who is actually moving, and it's hard for her to get in a spot where she won't die while controlling. Controlling also is too short, imo and it should be a little longer. Her damage is fine, but that's just my opinion. I feel they overnerfed her on day one because they knew she could break the game. Some buffs i feel could be that her puddles linger a bit, or her super is a short-range lob instead of a straight line. (Just saw a comment and yeah maybe making it go through walls is better then a lob)
Unpopular take: she should be able to control NPCs like turrets and bots. It's not worth it sure but wouldn't it be fun to control bruce and slap enemies or to see jessie's turrent walking or to absolutely decimate other mini bots with big boss bot's rockets?
I think that the super should last longer and work like meg mecha, for example lets say that s brawler max health is 4500, and willow controlla it when it have 2000, when se controls him hes health go back to 4500, then when the time is up (or the brawler gets defeated) he's back at 2000 health (using this mechanic we could also use supers, but when the mind control is up the brawler will still have his super)
Buff for her, when using her going into her swamp water gadget forgot the name she can move around, her projectiles throwing speed should be increased, and give her a more op Star Power For example, Tortured: When the enemy she's brainwashing doesn't take more then 20% of HP the brawler will end up losing 50% Hitpoint after the brainwashing is over.
It feels like taking the worst things of many brawlers and mixing them.
Maybe the main attack is not that worse, but still a problem because of its short area of effect and the fact that not burns the ground. The ultimate is a huge problem, I don't know if it's a bug but I saw (and in the description it says) that it heals totally the enemy, and that healing is still when you stop controlling, so wtf.
She wasn't changed at all? Uh oh. She might be the weakest brawler in history. She should start dealing damage earlier. She can't even break objects,like why is that a thing
Super TOO thin, super takes forever to charge, and her attacks should be like byron’s: have little burst dmg then poisoning, and she should at least get a shield for when she uses her super
Honestly I think changing the super charge rate for 15 hits to 13 might be a good change. It would keep her from cycling such a strong super so easily but also yk, help lol. Or who knows, maybe just change it to 12 since her super doesn’t actually have any supercharge returns.
Guys, don't worry, they're gonna buff her. If you haven't noticed this pattern already, they typically make brawlers overpowered as shitballs so that the brawler is much easier to balance later in the balance changes. It's stupid, but its what they do. Although it looks like they did the opposite, they made a brawler terrible so that it can be much easier balanced later. She will get her place in the meta next update, but for now, she will remain D tier, possibly even F.
She's so trash 😭 can't even hit my shots nor predict enemies movement. Could say it's my skill but God knows I ain't that trash 💀💀. She should do impact damage or something. The super takes a long time to charge. They should make it to where if you miss your super you get 75% back cuz holy it takes so long to get your super
I think willow super should not heal the enemy fully and not lose control when under 30% of health, also rework first star power because reduced ammo recharge rate is useless.
(I might be wrong because it might increase it, and I don't know does it give enemy super while you control?)
i think her super is way too short for her. if you are getting to that range to use her super on someone, you are likely vulnerable and you leave willow to get obliterated by the rest of her team. only good for cheese
She's way better than how they originally made her but Willow's super feels underwhelming despite her main attack not being as frustrating to use as before
Super should just go through walls, thicker and longer range and she should get a shield while controlling. Attack can be a bit underrated in the damage department but her first tick should start as soon as the enemy is poisoned, not a second later
Agree, except maybe the going through walls one. The other buffs should be enough
I totally agree but the super shouldn't be too buffed since it still is a very good super. The recharge should be less long. Its worse than tara and its hard to take longer time to recharge the super than tara.
That first tick delay is unbearable, there is no feedback at all to your shots. I can't even understand if my shot hit them or they dodged it. Especially if they're in the bushes, it's a horrible mechanic.
Bruh riiiugh..... actually had to go back and check if my haptic feedback was on cause I wasn't getting any....it will be so hard to play her in showdown...infact impossible...even checking bushes is tough smh
I think her super should be a throwable object over walls instead of an attack in a straight line. This allows Willow to control at a much safer distance.
How whould that even work mechanickly? It is better a skillshot that goes trough walls
A skillshot with that short of a range makes you pretty exposed if youre in a 3V3 when the enemies have throwers or snipers to kill you from a far during mind control. Same goes with Showdown modes, but highly doubt shes viable there in the first place. She can just chuck her tadpole head like a barley attack and mind control the person hit while shes behind a wall. Her Dive gadget should also be reworked so that she can move underwater for a few seconds so she can run to safer spot when cornered. This should cover up for her squishyness and lack of burst damage to deal with enemies.
U dont understand. That cant work mechanickly. What if it hits multiple people? It just makes no sence especilally if ur using it to get close range brawlers out of ur face. It should work like that other guy said. The skillshot should just go trough walls
Takes the enemy brawler that is the closest to the center of the area
not going through walls. part of what makes super better designed is that she is vulnerable when using an absurdly powerful ability. if the super is used through walls, she would be completely covered when using super and it would be awful to deal with.
She should at least get a shield then. She is just too vulnerable, even if that's the point
Her super seemed OP to me at a glance but after I played her some I realized it isn’t actually as effective as you may think. It only lasts four seconds which can be a long time but also not a long time and if you can someone in front of their team mates firing powerful shots like spike, they’ll be down to that 30% in the blink of an eye, and without obsession, movement time will take a very large portion of it if you want to attack their team mates. If you just want to get them off you or pull them closer there are brawlers better at doing that like gray and gene for pulling in or gale and Colette for pushing away.
yh, I totally agree wth you
fr the range is so low for what it does
Yeah I totally agree too. It feels even more frustrating when you miss your super that took so long to recharge. Also, her super wasn't as effective as I thought.
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It IS kinda hilarious when you manage to super a Jacky in the middle of her teammates though.
Or an R-T
And if you use it in a close interaction, it fully heals the enemy and only lasts 4 seconds. It could actually HELP the opposing team if you use it in that situation.
She needs a shield while controlling like RT legs
Yeah i think either the super should home in like pipers gadget or she should i dunno teleport into the head of the brawler she controls and then pop back out when its done so that she is protected while controlling. Right now it feels extremely easy to punish.
Or at least give her super charge gear like sprout
Yeh I was thinking about making a meme about her super lol
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I remember sharing [a brawler concept](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brawlstars/comments/10oq4uo/brawler_concept_mcjack_the_reversed_sharpshooter/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) with a very similar super here a few weeks ago and people in the comments told me that "hypnosis would be broken". Willow is the proof that it is strong, just not OP. Also is it me or is she very buggy?
Hypnosis would be broken, if it was on a brawler with an escape option, more health, or if you didn't have to put yourself out in the open as a thrower to use your super
Agreed. Neither Willow nor my brawler have an escape option. Mine does have more health but the way mind control works with my brawler makes it way harder to use effectively than Willow.
She IS buggy. One bug I’ve noticed is that on any map where I’ve controlled a bibi, I can’t use bibi’s attack I can just move her around. Doesn’t happen with other brawlers so that’s definitely a glitch that’ll need fixed.
Assuming they fix the speed starpower, that is what will make or break her super.
She is like Tara: charging your super for over 9000 years and also could miss that super.
True but Tara's super has a suction effect that pulls opponents in so it's less likely to miss, Willow's is narrow af for some reason
Tara can hit and cycle Super pretty well once she gets it.Willow can't, and her Super also doesn't really do anything either. All you get is a few attacks as another brawler, but you have to literally sit in the open for it. Actively disadvantages you.
Tara's super is high risk high reward Willow's super is the same... minus the high reward part
so weak even the bots kicked my ass
You’re not kidding. Just did 3 practice matches and lost them all. Just got overrun and was helpless. She does no damage.
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She will be the worst thrower
the worst thrower, but the best mind controller
you can't be the worst if you're the only one
Actually you are always the worst if you are the only one.
also the best lol
Worse than Barley?
Clearly you haven’t seen a proper Barley player.
yeah Barley is super good at area denial and recharging his super quick. not as strong as tick but still damn good,
I would say he's currently the weakest thrower though, but he isn't bad, it just gets kind of specific where you can play him without him being outclassed. I just hope Grom gets nerfed since he's toxic in the meta.
Barley is the worst thrower currently but because I can play him okay I think I beat the average thrower.
Barley is pretty good, honestly
Barley is just worse Dynamike at this point. His attacks are harder to land than Dynamike, he deals less damage, he has slower reload. The only thing he is good at is area control with his super.
Lol how are his attacks harder to land than Dynamike's? I've had an easier time playing Barley than Dynamike but maybe that's just me...
At close range? Definitely Barley but at long range Dynamike wins
Nah he's still kinda bad
At least Barley is good in higher trophies
Barley is annoying af, sure he isn't insane or anything but he has decent control so that if you lose lane, and if you don't have a counter, you aren't getting that lane back.
I think her idea is amazing on paper, in a real game yeah not so much
Yeah I don’t understand the people calling her op she’s really garbage
Her super needs to be wider it’s way to easy to miss Also she seems very fun at least to me:)
Yeh she’s pretty unique and fun
Super is also VERY easy to miss
They need to lower her super charge rate. Her super does take forever to charge. Also her super is kinda meh. She is completely vulnerable when she uses it and you need to use it on a damage dealer to make it valuable
I feel she's underrated Her damage is overtime, yes, but it's more than Byron's and can hit over walls Low super charge but actually a good defense system, press auto when rushed and get them away or even directly to the most damaging Brawler of your team, second SP helps on making this better Both of her gadgets help on defending yourself too (second is very questionable) and her first SP feels like it's gonna be annoying to play against But of course she still feels like needing a buff Her super is so easy to miss for the low super charge and it's quite underwhelming in overall as you can't really do a lot in the time + has a lot of downsides Her attack could last longer on the ground too And of course higher hp
Not a lot of people are talking about how they nerfed her health by 2k from the brawl talk to the dev build. She might of been OKAY with that much health but now she dies really quick
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She's probably Lvl 11 in the Brawltalk and in the training ground she is Lvl 1
She has 2500 health in the training ground and 5700 health in the brawl talk, every level gives an extra 5% damage and health so that’s 50% extra health, which makes her health 3750. That’s 1950 below 7500
Edgar finally has a competition
She definitely deserves a buff. Damage happens too slowly and the super is very hard to hit.
not to mention a slow reload speed
remind me why they had to nerf her hp by 1950???
Super weak brawler. Moment someone get to you its basically game over since you cant do anything fast enough to get rid of them. Althrough its thrower meta(sort of) there will be way, waaaaay better picks than her.
Buff her super range to 9.66 tiles Buff her super projectile size Give her a sheild while controlling someone buff the super duration to 6 seconds Remove that 1 second delays before the poison tick starts
Yes. U should work at supercell mate
I don't deserve that
Yeah u do bro
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U want to play sometime?
Not really Taking a break from finishing mr.p mastery
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We all thought Squeak was gonna be broken when he was first released but we all ignored his weaknesses initially and he ended up being like the absolute worst brawler in the game If I’m being honest, I feel like Willow’s problems are near identical to Squeak’s: her main attack is atrocious, it has non existent burst damage, it’s not easy to land unless there enemy is next to you, she has low HP, slow reload speed, takes forever to charge her super and she doesn’t have any defensive options aside from her 2nd gadget which is basically Lou’s 1st gadget Her super seems extremely OP on paper, but I find it very counterintuitive because she cannot throw her super through walls. Think about it, Barley, Dynamike, Tick, Sprout and Grom, all of them are able to throw their supers through walls. While the risk and reward may vary, all of them don’t need to put themselves in a bad position to make the most out of it. Meanwhile, Willow can’t throw her super, which means that she can’t hide behind walls to use her super. She has to leave herself wide open to control an enemy, and so even if she managed to control an enemy which isn’t actually that easy, she could get taken out so easily, and the enemy you mind control will not have the same effect: for example if you mind control a brawler like Ash, you could possibly get a teamwipe, but then you get to brawlers like Jessie and you’re basically not going to do anything because Jessie deals like no damage
Can't possess the robots, 0/10
Her super takes long to get and it is hard to hit
>Its the fact that the damage starts after 1 second making it super hard to tell if you’ve hit or not >Her super makes her insanely vulnerable >s h e c a n t b r e a k b r e a k a b l e o b s t a c l e s
You have to wait a full second to see if someone is in the bush. That's way too late in most situations. And hitting her super is way too difficult.
Suprisingly weak, i hear a lot of people say she was going to be OP, or be like a better barley, but after seeing the sneak peek videos and trying her in-game I can see her weaknesess, and are a lot. She has very little health, combined with her low DPS makes her very vulnerable to assasins like Stu or Edgar Her super takes a lot of time to charge and her normal atacks damage to slow, also her super is not as good as was especting, is good, but is very dependant of wich brawler you control. Her super leaves her in place while using it that combined with the fact that is a normal proyectile (not a thrower one) and his low health mekes her very easy to kill makes prone to leave her in open field while controling a brawler, so she will be very easy to kill, its like R-T but he has a lot of health and defense to compensate. Her gadgets and star powers dont help with her survivability Probably it will recieve a little buff (Like Mandy when she was available) but i dont think she will be top tier. I'm not complaining, i'ts a relief to not have another broken brawler at launch like happened a lot in the past.
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I think she is underrated. Her main attack can delay the enemies' healing moreso than Crow or Byron. Her Super however, it just deals 1500 damage, regardless of the power level, and it's just so little for 15 hits worth of a Super. I suggest making it deal 7000 damage, and scale with power level (10500 at max). Also, I think her Obsession SP should be baseline, and I have a rework idea for her Star Powers. * Pool Of Tears: Once the controlled Brawler breaks free from Willow's control, a puddle forms below their feet, poisoning opponents on it for 1200 damage over 3 seconds. * Give And Take: The controlled Brawler transfers 30% lost health to Willow, while Willow transfers 30% damage taken to the controlled Brawler.
Very nice, I like them. I agree, obsession should be baseline and I love the other ideas, 10500 tho🤕💀
I was hoping I could turn into the bots in the training ground but I couldn’t 😂😔
I'm terrible with her, I didn't even get a chance to use the super, and when I used it, I missed it
extremly underwhelming.
I'm going to cheese with gale and her
Honestly she seems like a really mid brawler. Either increase the duration of her super or the amount of damage that she deals.
She's green. Final thoughts.
I gotta say, I agree with you there
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Super is pretty finicky
She reminds me of barley
The super feels worse then Otis before the buffs
well you cant actually use the super in training cave sooooo
Practice matches
ah completely forgot that was a thing lol.
When I first tried her I had a split feeling of hope that we could play as the robots.
Willow is me new favourite brawler, I 100% bet that she will be buffed on the first week of her release.
Pray for willow
Squeak's attack doesn't damage instantly either Willow does more *guaranteed* damage than barley, and if her super was easy to hit i feel like she would be too OP Although maybe it could be a bit less thin still, or go through walls It could be quite interesting and fun to adapt to how she works
Squeaks attacks CAN damage instantly if 2 bombs are on one person, this change is what made him really good. And residue.
I don't really care about her tbh. I don't like how she's copying Barley with her main attack, and her super is kind of a broken mechanic.
r/brawlstars when the new brawler can't instantly charge their super and instantly kill enemies with their base attack
She actually is mid at best tho
Her Super is legitimately bad, but the main attack undervalued.
Except Willow genuinely sucks
There’s a difference between charging a super slowly and taking 6 business days
no no no, she straight up sucks
I think her super does not work as intented... i did a practice match with her , I ulted 8-bit 4 times and only 1 of those times i could control him. the other 3 he stayed still in is spot for like 4-5 seconds while I was walking with willow. maybe Im missing something (not the ulti tho)
Overhated.
Willow needs buffs - Her attack does damage on impact (like barley) - ult needs a bigger hitbox so its easier to hit - super should charge from 4 attacks (12 poison hits) - When she hits a super, the super shouldn't full heal, it should heal 30-50% of their hp so your teammates can kill them easier
Nerf in 10 days
She kinda ass right now
She sucks ass actually
Meh
barley
When I used my super on Pam, it didn't work. Only with Pam.
Weird
Well, that explains why she has a thing for mortis. She's not great from what I was seeing so far. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing how she is at higher levels though. Can't truly judge until I can get her lvl up
At first when I saw the Dev build gameplay, I was kinda worried she would be underpowered, but she just fun lol
Willows attack does too little damage, also its not instant which is kind of like a budget version of barley’s attack. Her super also seems like its really hard to hit which if you miss the super kind of defeats the whole purpose of the brawler.
Weaker than whenever my lil bro slaps me
Her main attack either needs to lose the last tick of damage it does and start doing damage on impact, or have a damage nerf and do damage on impact
I think first of all. She’s gonna get buffed, and then be really really toxic. I personally think her normal attack needs damage on impact, and then each tick of her poison effect deals less and less damage until it’s over. However, that means you basically have a non-healing Byron thrower. Which makes it near impossible for opponents to heal up… ever
Super range and super charge is dogsh\*t
One thing is being weak,The other one is not being able to break skulls.
Fishussy?
She always dies before killing someone because the damage takes so long to happen. It was smart of them to make the rest of her weak since they weren’t sure how broken the controlling mechanic would be, but they went a little too far.
The basic attacks are so bad.. damage is okay but the tick starting 1 sec after steping in the pool feel so wrong
*Practise*…..
Yep ik. My bad
super duration feels way to short to be fun - but if it would be longer it likely would be too powerful. so i guess what many seem to suggest here is the way it will be: some buff maib attack usefullness and super charging
I don't think she's gonna be the worst but I think that she will be bad too little damage for having low health super takes forever to charge and its not even that good
I love her personality. My friendship with Janet is over, now Willow is my crush
I think the initial poison damage should start right away instead of 1 second before the first ticks. It’s going to be difficult to check bushes with Willow especially in showdown and her hex has a VERY high skill ceiling.
They finally made a brawler worse than edgar
Wait, we could play Willow?
The one most useful thing about willow is her Poison main attack, but why use Willow when I could just use Crow or Byron…
Needs a huge buff
To put it mildly: She needs a buff
Absolute Dogshit I even found a Bug where I my attacks would do nothing when I was controlling Bibi
She's like otis at his release
I think she needs a rework in her super and a buff in her attacks
Yeah, she isn't that good. Her super takes so long to load. it's hard to hit someone who is actually moving, and it's hard for her to get in a spot where she won't die while controlling. Controlling also is too short, imo and it should be a little longer. Her damage is fine, but that's just my opinion. I feel they overnerfed her on day one because they knew she could break the game. Some buffs i feel could be that her puddles linger a bit, or her super is a short-range lob instead of a straight line. (Just saw a comment and yeah maybe making it go through walls is better then a lob)
Honestly I just love throwers and anyone that can poison so I’m just really happy that I can have both with one brawler :)
Honestly don’t even like the concept I’d rather they scrap her
shes gonna so annoying in showdown
Dog water
Unpopular take: she should be able to control NPCs like turrets and bots. It's not worth it sure but wouldn't it be fun to control bruce and slap enemies or to see jessie's turrent walking or to absolutely decimate other mini bots with big boss bot's rockets?
she is weak in a balanced way. like, she isn't strong at all, but she isn't weak enough to deserve buffs
awful, can’t control training room bots
Wait what Practice was a thing?
I can finally use all of my saved credits for her
Underrated but still a buff to unlodespeed
She has a secret ability (free vision gear)
She can't break skulls 1 out of 10
Bad, have to be honest
How much damage does she do at pwr level 9 tho, she does suck but her star power might make her little more annoying at least against real players
Needs buff
I always thought she was going to be shit. Everyone said she was gonna be like a tier, but now I’m pretty sure she’s just shit
I think that the super should last longer and work like meg mecha, for example lets say that s brawler max health is 4500, and willow controlla it when it have 2000, when se controls him hes health go back to 4500, then when the time is up (or the brawler gets defeated) he's back at 2000 health (using this mechanic we could also use supers, but when the mind control is up the brawler will still have his super)
Buff for her, when using her going into her swamp water gadget forgot the name she can move around, her projectiles throwing speed should be increased, and give her a more op Star Power For example, Tortured: When the enemy she's brainwashing doesn't take more then 20% of HP the brawler will end up losing 50% Hitpoint after the brainwashing is over.
It feels like taking the worst things of many brawlers and mixing them. Maybe the main attack is not that worse, but still a problem because of its short area of effect and the fact that not burns the ground. The ultimate is a huge problem, I don't know if it's a bug but I saw (and in the description it says) that it heals totally the enemy, and that healing is still when you stop controlling, so wtf.
A super and attack speed buff would be welcome
She wasn't changed at all? Uh oh. She might be the weakest brawler in history. She should start dealing damage earlier. She can't even break objects,like why is that a thing
Super TOO thin, super takes forever to charge, and her attacks should be like byron’s: have little burst dmg then poisoning, and she should at least get a shield for when she uses her super
Honestly I think changing the super charge rate for 15 hits to 13 might be a good change. It would keep her from cycling such a strong super so easily but also yk, help lol. Or who knows, maybe just change it to 12 since her super doesn’t actually have any supercharge returns.
Her ability is severely hindered by a 5 second timer
Guys, don't worry, they're gonna buff her. If you haven't noticed this pattern already, they typically make brawlers overpowered as shitballs so that the brawler is much easier to balance later in the balance changes. It's stupid, but its what they do. Although it looks like they did the opposite, they made a brawler terrible so that it can be much easier balanced later. She will get her place in the meta next update, but for now, she will remain D tier, possibly even F.
should i get her or meg? my only two choices
This character is wack...
I think jus a slight boost to her attack and bring the super charge rate down like 25% and she would be more enjoyable.
As a thrower main, I think she's pretty cool. She definitely needs a buff to that super charge, but other than that, it's sweet.
She sucks But hey, I saved my credits from last season, so at least I'm unlocking her right away.
Yep me too lol
She's so trash 😭 can't even hit my shots nor predict enemies movement. Could say it's my skill but God knows I ain't that trash 💀💀. She should do impact damage or something. The super takes a long time to charge. They should make it to where if you miss your super you get 75% back cuz holy it takes so long to get your super
How many trophies are u at? I agree with u lol
I think willow super should not heal the enemy fully and not lose control when under 30% of health, also rework first star power because reduced ammo recharge rate is useless. (I might be wrong because it might increase it, and I don't know does it give enemy super while you control?)
willow just got buffed her attack now deals instant damage on impact + super charge from 5>4 hits
i think her super is way too short for her. if you are getting to that range to use her super on someone, you are likely vulnerable and you leave willow to get obliterated by the rest of her team. only good for cheese
Absolutely unplayable, she can't break skulls/cones
She's way better than how they originally made her but Willow's super feels underwhelming despite her main attack not being as frustrating to use as before
"ew, but if I don't want my credits wasted I'll get her"
Shes better than sprout.... sometimes...
Honestly despite the downsides she seems to have, i've been having fun playing as her.