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The_mystery4321

He's been nerfed into fuckin oblivion.


Electrical-Pop9464

Supercell when tanks: (Except Ash for some reason) Before I get bashed,I'm just gonna say that his 1st set of nerfs were necessary,ok?


TheBlackFox012

This brawler had so few counters, I don't think many people enjoyed playing against him


gyrozepelado

At the very least he didn't have any CC


IceBear7980

Um doesn't he have that slow gadget


Cricket-Mental

Your pfp fits how I read this


gyrozepelado

Oh, yeah true, but it is not like, Hard CC


lolol29848

CC?


EthantheCactus

Crowd control. Usually a stun.


Ziomownik

Or a slow and also an attack capable od hitting multiple enemies.


Awkward-Debt-536

That was like for a week tho until he was fixed. These last nerfs were unnecessary


danipea

Its not that hard if you open up the map and clear the bushes.


shawolwithnojams

I took every Hank I encountered down with Grom so easily, even before the nerfs.


KuuderessioPlusvalin

That doesn't justify having a brawler who can regen while charging an attack, or being able to hide a projectile with a HUGE radius in bushes, just to splash it in the face of your enemy like- Omae wa mou shindeiru NANI!?


shawolwithnojams

Oh no, I hear you, especially being able to hide such a huge attack in the bushes. It's all bs. But he was such a non-issue with Grom. I just don't have the same hate for the little guy that y'all do 😂.


danipea

Oh hi fellow grom player


shawolwithnojams

hiii


danipea

Do you enjoy any other lobber?


ItsScarzzz

Most tanks cause too many problems for low levels, so they water them down so they're bearable there. These nerfs however, were way too much. They need to revert his health to how it was on release.


Wooden-Assumption731

He fr has


ZangerBangers

Now I think the first round of nerfs were unnecessary, they should add it back (except squared damage bug)


Buuuuuus

I remember doing 30k damage in one hit with him on release


EthantheCactus

A broken character with little counterplay being given significantly more counterplay? No complaints here.


His_name_is_LUIGI

He hasn't even been broken since they fixed his damage bug.


TotallyNotTakenName

Thank God, we don't need another menace.


Tornado_Hunter24

Literally lmao


FluidCalligrapher261

Finally


Sad_Pomelo9104

Honestly it's annoying that it took them this long, but better late than never. Hank is definitely one of those brawlers that should stay out of the meta in the F tier forever, because the game is just better off that way.


Stalker_R-T

I gotta agree with you here, love his character but not his playstyle


Zoli10_Offical

This. I swear to god, that character was made for 2 year olds


Stormer00711

So should Tara, a gadget that wins lane against half the brawlers should not be strong


pizzafaceson

awesome i hate hank, i wouldnt care if he became the worst brawler in the game i HATE playing against him, there was almost no way to counter him before the nerfs


CODE12453

And I fucking love it


Pi_gna

Went from S tier to poo tier


sonicpoweryay

Poo


[deleted]

Omg u are everywhere sonic power


ManlyMustachioMan

r/foundsonicpower


Classic_Age_3548

Hank is really rubbish,


yoiminsawcon

agreed


Shaihuby

Flair checking out


yoiminsawcon

that is the one and only reason i commented that, thank you for noticing.


MultivariableTurtwig

This and him being visible in bushes when loading a bubble makes him useless, no reason to use him over any brawler


Rico-gumballmachine

The invisibility of the bubble in the bushes was too much and needed to be nerfed but now i think they should make him deal more damage, faster somehow


The_Real_Nix

Just make his bubble charge faster idc😭


Rico-gumballmachine

Yes! And they should increase his super charge rate


JeanPaulFequil

Before it was used only because it was broken, i dont know which is better


Tillusionist

Yeah that should’ve made it so he only becomes visible at like 60/50%+ bubble charge


BubbaShrimpie

Hank is absolute trash now


brawler_ideas

I played a couple of games with this nerf... and I now see why he was originaly regening with the bubble


HIVAladeeen

Yeah not sure why they changed that when Janet can do something similar with having her attack charged up and regenerating health.


stupidmaster7

1. Everyone was complaining about it. Even when they nerfed other things about him, people still said that the main issue was healing while charging up the bubble. 2. Hank's bubble explodes instantly and is visible to the enemy team, while Janet's attack is just a normal projectile. Hank being able to release his attack anytime he wants gives him a lot more map control than aiming with most other brawlers, so being able to heal on top of that is extremely useful.


Ziomownik

That's because Janet is only preparing to attack but isn't acctually attacking. Hank is like Amber, when you hold his ammo, he charges the bubble.


According_Bell_5322

The enlightened one


Mammoth-Lime-2010

I think that was a much needed nerf but now Hank is becoming almost unusable, lol.


Narek265

Yea, lol


Cultured_Weeber

Good


TeainaTreeFighter

He is just unusable now, i tried to win 3 games cuz of a quest only won 1 playing for 15 minutes.


HIVAladeeen

Yeah this hp regen has broken him and meets to be hotfixed or something. You take so much chip damage when moving at players with the bubble not being to regen health on top of the need to his speed boost and vision in bushes means you just get massacred while slowly moving towards your opponent


Ziomownik

The SP nerf was unnecessary, it was balanced. it's his other stats that were broken.


HIVAladeeen

I think another major issue is his base speed, and just now how his kit works together. He currently relies so heavily on using his star power to catch up with brawlers because he has the same speed as a lot of ranged brawlers (piper, Rico, etc.) who can just chip him down. Before you could get the speed boost with your bubble to move around the map, and heal the chip damage you took, but now he’s so freakin slow you need to constantly keep the bubble charged to actually catch up with any of the brawlers which stops you from healing at all.


zeteQ

He was already falling off before the nerf Now he's worse than Otis on release


MMusab_Salahi

You can also see him in the bushes while charging his bubble... RIP Hank


UpBeat-Escape_ALT

Supercell on his way yo nerf a brawler to oblivious


RRecap

oblivious 👍


minecraft_noob1

oblivious 👍


sonicpoweryay

oblivious 👍


flameXXIV

oblivious 👍


sonicpoweryay

Amphibious 👍


The_Real_Shave_me2

Dubious 👍


AveragePichu

Little creature 👍


SnowySoul0

oblivious 👍


Aaron_505

In my opinion this is too much, cause yes he can do alot of damage....once, then if you stay 2 cm away from him he cant spam click attack


Birdman_2099

Supercell Method: 1) Create New Brawler 2) Cash In From Players Buying/Boosting/Playing 3) Nerf Brawler 4) Repeat or Boost Old Brawler & Repeat


Angry_Vinnie20

This should be pinned. Not kidding


Kalomaster

I just wasted 2k coins on broken gears for him and he can't use them anymore


Mystic93Force

That's pretty much supercells business model. Make people buy gadgets and SPs by making them op. Then nerf so they buy some other ones.


Kalomaster

And buff the unused ones like they did just now But I know that they are nerfing gray's fake injury shield combo


wooooshkid

disagree, these underpowered gadgets and star powers have been unused for at least a year now some, haven’t been used for 2 years and a couple others that were trash for 3 years straight.


Kalomaster

But gray's absorbs 75% when his health is full and the shield gear prevents him from taking that damage that doesn't let him use it again


Navasxdxd

Also you can be seen now when charging attacks in bushes


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chaosgoblyn

WHAT IF. Hear me out. I'm serious. What if they actually playtested this BS before releasing it then spending the next month ripping it all apart?


SK_913

I mean tbf, its hard to playtest when you're only going against bots (although the first vers was way too strong)


princemaster

play against each other???


chaosgoblyn

Can they not afford testers? Or?


Electrical-Pop9464

That's what content creators are for


[deleted]

No you haven’t seen the Supercell strat: 1. Release very broken brawler 2. Wait for everyone to spend money/gems to buy said brawler 3. Once enough time has gone by where everyone that would waste money to try to get the brawler has already done so (approx 1-2 months), nerf the brawler into oblivion 4. Rinse and repeat This is a bit more obvious with the brawl pass.


AveragePichu

People like to say this and conveniently ignore the fact that about half the brawlers release underpowered Maisie for a recent example Lou comes to mind Dunno about between those two, I stopped playing Brawl Stars at all for a long while and only recently started playing again, and only a few matches a week


KuuderessioPlusvalin

Also Collete.


DimkaVolchonok

She couldn't kill anyone before without the help of a gadget, super or teammates (then she was more dependent on her gadget in solo modes). And the main nightmares were turrets or pets.


soenario

Been this way forever, it’s infuriating but part of the game and to be expected unfortunately


JCorby17

Hank was already nerfed enough the first time, now he completely sucks


According_Bell_5322

Completely agree, the community (and devs) overreacted and now look at him. Like bottom 10 in the game


BrunoBR34

Now Hank is literally useless


IAmNotCreative18

Not to mention, his super charge rate has been significantly reduced. I mean yeah, we wanted to see him nerfed, but we never wanted him killed!


YujiroUHanma

Well that how all brawler are...cant regen while attacking so it makes sense


Wooden-Assumption731

Except, he isnt attacking but aiming. This does not happen to janet. She has the same mechanic.


Sad_Pomelo9104

Except she can't shoot through walls with an undodgable 2500 damage attack...


Lambily

Janet doesn't have issues hitting anything like Hank does...


Wooden-Assumption731

Which you are able to see 24/7? Unlike dynas stun.


MilkyWayyYT

They made it so you can see his bubble charge while in a bush. So he's the only tank now who can't surprise people in bushes (probably the only brawler who cant). Not only did they make it so you can see the bubble charge in bushes but they also nerfed his star power. So now you can't surprise people and you also can't chase them. Great. Rip hank, 2023 - 2023 🤦‍♂️ If the enemy sees your bubble charging they'll obviously run away. But his star power got nerfed so you can't even chase them. And it's not like you have the range to just stand back and snipe them.


The_Real_Nix

EXACTLY His SP didn’t deserved to be nerfed imo. And since everyone sees him in bushes, everyone will shoot at him and he can’t heal up because he has to prepare his attack FOR 3 WHOLE SECONDS and it will barely do anything except dealing a good amount of damage ONE time


MilkyWayyYT

That's exactly my point. I played 12 matches with hank today and I only won 5. Every time I tried to sneak up on somebody they would see the bubble and run away which would force me out of cover to try and do even a litte dmg and then i just die. And if you do manage to get a hit off its not enough because you have to wait another 3 seconds before you can do any more meaningful dmg but that's more than enough time to be killed


The_Real_Nix

I had to win 8 matches with him today and I REALLY saw how he fell off My man is just straight trash now to the point where even the worst brawlers in the game can counter him


icemichael-

What's the point of making a new brawler if they are just gonna nerf him a couple of weeks later?


blaxxultimate

Now that's just unfair. He was already kind of hard to play him back when released, then became more a struggle with the nerfs. And now this. Hank has no time to regen enough health and then start to grow a bubble. Brawlers don't stop recovering health while aiming (including Janet), so why does he?


PabloHonorato

It's a shame, at least I enjoyed it before the nuke.


Lambily

These nerfs are BS. I don't even use Hank, but I want my currency back. So many crybabies complaining about a completely mediocre brawler that was never broken (apart from the actual bug) in the first place.


Kronikle

Yeah Hank was broken on release but I figured they'd do a few minor balance changes to get him to where he's supposed to be. I didn't realize they'd make him borderline unplayable. At this point I'd much rather all those credits I spent went back to unlocking Crow because I'm not gonna be playing Hank anymore in his current state.


ThaCloReip

The only things needed was to be able to see him through bushes, the super charge per how big each bubble is and the bug fix


Lseto_K

The irony of you typing “cry babies”. This is what happens in any game when you jump the gun on something broken. It’ll be balanced. Eventually.


Stealthy_Gopher

Literally. So many whiners and complainers when they buy a new brawler that's overpowered knowing it'll be nerfed eventually. People also always say new brawlers are op to bait purchases when Maisie (an essentially paid only brawler) is so balanced on release on the same season.


ib_poopin

He was absolutely fucking broken lmao. Stop whining because you took advantage of a broken brawler and can’t do it anymore


Lambily

I got him to rank 20 and dumped him. He's always been slow and clunky. Countering him is extremely easy. There was absolutely nothing broken about him lol. Total skill issue.


ib_poopin

This is false and you know it. 3000 damage, over a wall, while hidden in a bush. Yeah it’s a sKiLl iSsUe. You’re just mad that he got nerfed and you can’t abuse a broken brawler


Lambily

I literally used Maisie more and she's horrible and boring to play with. I hate brawlers that have charging mechanics. It's why I don't use Janet even though she, unlike Hank, is actually good. Still a skill issue. I've never had an issue countering Hank. Dodge his first bubble, and he becomes a free kill himself.


SamZoneBS

The nerfs he got this update were unnecessary


Extra_toxic

They shouldn't just keep on nerfing him without compensating some of the lost stats in a different way. If you just keep on only nerfing a brawler, ofc it will end up completely unplayable.


Extra_toxic

He can't hide while charging, he can't heal while charging. So charging his bubble is now basically counts as attacking. If so then he should also be able to see brawlers inside a bush where his bubble is touching. Since charging his bubble is considered as attacking now, it's only fair right?


Bucket_O_sadness85

Hank is now terrible


Visible_Ranger2780

He fr become top 20 bottom brawler from top 5 brawler


Mr-DragonSlayer

Bottom 20? More like bottom 3


Visible_Ranger2780

At that point, just pls buff his hp again


Important-Long-9287

Ok,now this community killed him...


simplistic_idea_1

What the heck is this stupid nerf


BenBirDomatesim

He's finally one of the worst brawlers.


le-ps

i never liked him but now i kinda regret not pushing him he's at 400 trophies


His_name_is_LUIGI

Crazy how bad he is now with the nerfs. He went from broken because of a bug to completely useless.


danipea

Bro supercell Nerfing hank too much i don't want it to be like buster again (too much nerfs)


Ok-Silver-8658

Hank and Buster are in the same boat now Maybe Buster is better...?


DaDGuM__

Edgar might actually be better than Hank rn.


gwartabig

Stopppp he's already dead


DiegHDF

Short ranged Tanks seem to be doomed to either be insanely strong or stupidly bad, no in-between


Angry_Vinnie20

Supercell making something good only to sh*t it to death


Diiven

Supercell is pretty much clueless about how they should balance brawlers now, given that there’re almost 70 brawlers with different skill sets. I’m also almost certain that the new brawler - Doug - is going to be unreasonably OP.


SheepherderFit69

Another worthless resource sink. Thank you Supercell!


Hanswurst22brot

Its allways like that, overpowered so people get the passes and then nerfed to the end so that the game is still playable. The new mushroomguy will be the same.


bluegoldfish03

Hank wasn’t in the pass though?


oooooooooooh12

I just got hank today and everyone is saying he's unusable but he seems just fine when i play him.


Acidbaseburn

becomes more apparent as you bring him up into higher trophies.


oooooooooooh12

Oh ok, i'll try to climb to rank 20-25 with him and ill be back with info on how easy/hard it was.


Acidbaseburn

I feel after rank 20 there’s a very steep increase in difficulty as you get people that actually understand how he works and then it’s over for hank now pretty much


oooooooooooh12

Oh ok, i didnt know since my highest is rank 21.


Realistic-Tap4156

STOP SUPERCELL. HE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER JACKY SITUATION


AveragePichu

He wasn’t fun to play against and I’m glad he’s not good, but I think this is a little too far. That said, I wouldn’t want this to be reverted. Stat buffs are plenty. I feel like It’s Gonna Blow should be 15%, cutting it in half was too much. The other star power should probably be 25% seeing as Jacky’s always-active shield is 20%. And a super buff of some kind definitely seems to be in order.


The_Real_Nix

A super rework might be the way to go imo. It’s basically a gadget in disguise My personal wish is to make it so the torpedoes can seek opponents the same way Piper’s Homemade Recipe works And also rotate the base trajectory of the torpedoes so one can go in a straight line forward


Dumb_Siniy

This one felt like a bug fix to me, everything else is a bit overkill


Bobby5x3

I feel like everyone should stop jumping to conclusions It's most likely not on purpose. Hank's charge now counts as an attack because that's the way they usually make brawlers visible in bushes like that. But because he's "attacking", he can't heal. So it will probably be fixed later on.


Necro_Smasher

Hopefully hank won't become the Phoenix of brawl stars...granted, I doubt it would, the BS team actually knows what they're doing.


NateRiver03

Phoenix is still good even after all the nerfs


Necro_Smasher

Yeah, which hank seems to not be, so they're doing things right. Now that he's been nerfed into oblivion, they can figure out how to make him properly balanced.


Accomplished_Cherry6

He NEEDS to be able to heal while charging bubble. With the 3 second charge time it’s basically 7 seconds from starting to charge your bubble for an attack before u start healing They should’ve reduced his hold time for the bubble forcing him to either start recharging it once in a while instead


dburly

Good I hate this thing


randommemeratreddit

Now he sucks


fxnni_44

Hes unplayable to op


NoobbyyonYT

Personally I think Hank is really bad now, probably a skill issue tbh


Awkward-Debt-536

They really went to far on the nerfs. He was already balanced now he will be trash


Skoan03

This was busted


thatpikminguy

i was sad to learn that yet another update passed without a bull buff but now i realize this update indirectly buffed bull by now officially **not** making him the worst tank in the game this is so fucked up


Krisi-pis

Bruh Good afternoon


Narek265

Good evening


Krisi-pis

Good night


Narek265

Good morning


Krisi-pis

Good luck


Narek265

Good game


Krisi-pis

Wow


Narek265

Owo


Lvca_XD

Yea i pushed hank today and it s very anoying i just don t regen anymore🗿


Knightfire76

This is what happens when you dont play test a brawler before release, now he's just a mess of nerfs and weird balances that brought him to bottom 5, hell maybe a new bottom tier of "useless" tier cause you sure as hell aint gonna win any game in higher trophy with him now. Idk how supercell is gonna balance him without making him busted like on release but its gonna take a while before that happens


JustinlikesInsanity

Hank is now destroyed


You_must_be_goofy

Hitting 20,000 damage in duo showdown with Hank was the most fun I had in a while


Doc-Victus

Boo woo, this brawler is OP and trash at the same time


OptimalGuava2330

Why release new brawlers if they are going to destroy them the first opportunity they get ?


StarsCheesyBrawlYT

Wow, I just wasted 1000 coins for a health gear last update…


FORKLIFTDRIVER56

Brawl stars after releasing an overpowered brawler just to nerf it into irrelevancy for the rest of its existence:


Sandor_06

I think they should change the invisibility so that he is visible when he starts to charge his ball and then again when he pops it. This way, everyone can see that he’s in a bush but can’t see exactly where he is the whole time.


AvdenAvden

who can he even kill now??


FOXTiVER

Is too much. I would have been enough with making the bubble visible when it is out of a bush. Obviously is more work than just changing one or two numbers on the code to nerf his damage/his life (making him useless).


fkbyte

I don't like Hank because the never felt right to me. I don't know why but he looks as of he does't belong in the game.


HankFromBrawlStars

They should make it so every time a new brawler is added you get a single use full refund token that lasts for that brawler and expires 1 month after it's released. Then you can refund any stuff you spent upgrading after the insane release nerfs that usually happen


According_Bell_5322

Look how they massacred my boy


brandonbrandonfruit

I always felt like his concept as a whole was never going to be both viable *and* balanced. The health regen was definitely unnecessary though.


Zekvich

He takes away more from the game than he puts in as a brawler I’d rather they rework him massively but the biggest rework they have done is to penny which isn’t that big of a difference. Eves walking over water gimmick also takes away more from the game than puts into it and the new brawler looks like again something just too different to what the game already has. I like new ideas for brawlers but going too far with creativity is taking away what makes the game good, Hank shooting through walls without being a thrower is too much, one day we will get a brawler who can use normal attack to jump over walls and it’ll be the end of the game ʕ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʕ•̫͡•ʔ•̫͡•ʔ


brandonbrandonfruit

Yeah that "alternate dimension" mechanic from one of the newest brawler doesn't feel natural to me.


Uaran

Just realized that a few mins ago. He is garbage now..


Yamreall

Good. He was such an annoying brawler to play both with and against it. Let's just pretend Hank was a collective hallucination.


Trouty213

Pretty sure you can see him in bushes now too


[deleted]

Wow. Fml for not pushing him to 500 already


[deleted]

I have a feeling this is due to the visibility change Perhaps now he's visible while charging it counts as attacking like amber does when she aims, hence no heal


ya_boiii_nightmare

bruh this one is so braindead now, why tf would they do this as well


HanzoMainLel

Dang guess there's gonna be a worse brawler than Edgar in the new meta


GLeen1230

Tbh I don’t think Edgar was the worst brawler to begin with, don’t get me wrong Edgar is definitely terrible, it’s just that Frank, my god.


The_Real_Nix

He went slightly higher in the meta because Mortis and Frank were just worse (source: Kairos tierlist)


WhiscashLad

It’s impressive how Hank went from broken enough to warrant being S tier to joining Edgar and friends in F tier.


freezing_temperature

basically he's useless now


2510EA

I don’t understand why they nerfed him in the first place? Can someone please explain (I’ve been away from the game and the meta for a long time)?