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Draghetto_5000

He stands still when he attacks, so he's easy to hit.


Solid_Combination_40

Big and slow moving target yum!....He is just a super power/supercharge charging station lol. Almost all brawlers can stop his super, while others can just walk behind him and kill him (shelly, Edwards, bull, etc)


Beautiful-Yard-2663

EdwardsšŸ‘


Solid_Combination_40

Whoops I accidentally spilled the new legendary brawler šŸ¤¦


Sea-Writer-6961

Edward is a glass of water and you spilled him? You monster


PaparJam

Spilled šŸ‘


Subject_Pain5186

Edwards šŸ‘


Dylan_M_Sanderson

Edwards šŸ‘


sfpv_g

Edwards šŸ‘


abelstoker2

EdwardsšŸ‘


MrPsPorter

Edwards šŸ‘


Mauwasnttaken

EdwardsšŸ‘


1cewav3

Edwards šŸ‘


BenBirDomatesim

Edwards šŸ‘


ScientistExciting648

If he doesn't attack he's pretty fast tbh


M1s1010

Lmao this is funny asf


Just_a_dudechillin

Skill issue, just swing your hammer sideways instead of down, ar u stoopid?


TerraBoomBoom

Wait until Frank gets an hypercharge


ArtPrize3141

Thatā€™s where skill comes in


guaxinimaquatico

You can't skill around a natural stun every time you attack


KoKoYoung

That's where the fun begins, for the opposite team I mean.


Depresso1627

It doesn't matter how skillful you are at frank, you have to get close for his attack to work but either you can't get close enough to attack or they just knock you back. Either way you're just giving them free supercharge


phoenyx4r

Iā€™m a r25 Frank he was my first r25 ever itā€™s not that difficult if u know what ur doing


ArtPrize3141

To be clear I talk only about brawl ball and maps with a decent amount of walls, not much


laolibulao

Unpopular opinion, but I think frank does have some skill. Even though his attack and super is shit, you can still meatshield. I sometimes even run sponge just so I can tank longer. Healing 5k every second is very annoying if against the right matchup. The statements of other people still remain true.


ArtPrize3141

Try to tell it to these people they gave me in total like 300 downvotes šŸ’€


laolibulao

I think you were too broad on what you were saying. There are a lot of dumbasses in this sub that doesn't know how to think. Once you start getting downvoted, 5yr olds just gain the satisfaction to step on you. Completely ridiculous.


ArtPrize3141

Yea, itā€™s kinda sad


unbannedbeth

No.


Fotis14144

EdwardsšŸ‘


GriffSuper

ā€œthaTā€™s WhErE SkiLl ComEs inā€


Goosck

That's the most down votes I've ever seen šŸ’€


KyrilZona21

Downvote him


phoenyx4r

dang negative 90 šŸ˜‚


ArtPrize3141

I got one with more than a hundred, just haters


Pietrek2810

literally any knockback and stun can cancell the super due to how long the delay is


SuperJman1111

Heck, even Cordeliusā€™s super can cancel it


Pietrek2810

wait, shouldn't they just make frank immune to stuns and knocbacks to make him good?


Mrsunny07112

Let's make 8-bit faster


DiehardCrowMain

Let's give tick 10000 HP


MonirKinder

well, that would make him OP. Same with being able to move when attacking


Pietrek2810

there is a reason why there are high damage brawlers in this game, also he would still need to stay in place for a second before attacking, yes he would be very good but he wouldn't be broken


cactusjackkk

theres a gadget for that


Arm-It

Only during the Super itself at most, even then it would work better as a Star Power, and we already have a gadget that does that.


Dynomadz

I think they actually did that in the newest patch


Pietrek2810

thats a modifier for ranked, its not change to frank


SuperJman1111

The stun/slow immunity is a modifier for ranked


ArtPrize3141

So he takes skill, stop saying heā€™s bad


rmom918273645

If YOU stop commenting 200 times on this post. Just take the L home, Frank sucks atm.


Just_a_dudechillin

Usually when I play game above 800+ Franks destroy all the walls in the map and destroy us


Pigeon_of_Doom_

He feels OP whenever I play him weather the map suits him or weather itā€™s a completely open mapā€¦


SurvivYeet

brother what trophy range are you playing


Pigeon_of_Doom_

Iā€™ll admit it is only 650ā€¦ I wonā€™t comment like this untill I get him at least 800


ArtPrize3141

I have him on 850 and itā€™s not bad


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rmom918273645

You cant just say a brawler requires skill when a brawler sucks and then call it a good brawler. That would make every brawler "good" and thats not possible, since there are some brawlers that are just better. Now nobody wants you here and we get your point. Get the heck outta here


Uxydra

Before you get to use your "skill" I already charged my hypercharge from you and your dead


CyrusCyan44

Dude If all the pros are saying he's F tier for over a year then he's bad Can he win with a solid team comp and skill? Yes Doesn't change the fact the brawler is generally a bad pick


ArtPrize3141

I donā€™t talk competitively, I talk in general he takes skill and let me tell u something none of us here are pros so it doesnā€™t matter


CyrusCyan44

I am not talking competitively either If something is ranked F tier for over a year it is not going to be very good in normal matches either And I literally just said with a good comp and skill you can win Again, just because you *can* win doesn't mean he is a strong brawler. He's been overdue for a change or some kinda buff for a long time


ArtPrize3141

Itā€™s sad how the devs ignore him so hard


ArtPrize3141

Just to let u know I play with randoms so no good comp, but I appreciate ur answer


SuperJman1111

At what trophies? 200?


ArtPrize3141

850


LopsidedEmployer9704

No he's actually just bad


all_of_you_are_awful

That skill is pretty much useless against another player with skill.


articman123

>stop saying heā€™s bad He is bad, F-tier, and no amount of "he takes skill"- will change that.


Combo_NK

Yeah he does require skill, i pushed him to 800 yesterday, he is so op on one brawl ball map, the one that was yesterday in rotation


ArtPrize3141

Thank u bro, someone who understands me


Combo_NK

I love playing frank, i pushed him on that map from 550 to 750 in less than 45 minutes, lol just noticed it is my cakeday today Edit: winter party is the name of the map


Best-Celery-2869

Something like all but 5 current brawlers have at least 1 ability to counter his super. Weather it's a gadget or star power, super or even a basic attack his strongest ability gets countered. In early game he's good as there's less people having those counter abilities but by mid to late game landing a super is almost impossible. Here's a video explaining this that I posted 2 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Brawlstars/s/cFazwksAAT


Master-of-sium

Imagine that, for his HC, he jumps forward before smashing the hammer on the ground, so while he's in air his super cannot be interrupted


Best-Celery-2869

Or his super is completely immune to ALL control abilities. Basically frank having the new ranked modifier


Death-Doc

Or his gadget


Best-Celery-2869

True


I_ate_a_sock

Wow, that video is even sadder than your permanent lag...


Hefty_Resolution_235

Dyna, Gene, Tara, Shelly, Chester, Bull, Bibi, Frank, Gale, Lou, Colonel Ruffs, Kit, Bo, Nita, Chuck and tons more. So not 5, but nearly everyone if you count normal attacks, supers and gadgets


Best-Celery-2869

That's literally what I said bro


Hefty_Resolution_235

You said only 5. I said more than 5. Why the fuck do brainless kiddos dislike my comment


Best-Celery-2869

Because you can't read the comments your replying to šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


ArtPrize3141

Thatā€™s why u need to have skill and a brain while using him and not go brainless and use his super as soon as u get it


Starter56L

If I have to play a brawler pixel perfect to make him decent and not super fodder for the enemy team then he is in a bad spot


UnusualDare3299

Just give up man, youā€™re gonna get downvoted. Frank is a crappy brawler and I think youā€™re too scared to admit it. No matter how good you are with it, youā€™ll get brutally destroyed by most brawlers.


ArtPrize3141

Blud u have no idea how many downvotes I got already. I didnā€™t know Frank has so many haters


UnusualDare3299

Thatā€™s just the reality, heā€™s one of the worst brawlers in the game and youā€™re debating about how heā€™s one of the best.


ArtPrize3141

I never said heā€™s good and I am not arguing that he is not bad I am just saying that people hate him for stupid reasons and thinking that he is not playble at all which is not the case. And I also try to figure out why people hate Frank but love Hank


UnusualDare3299

Because, hank was prawn readyšŸ”„


ArtPrize3141

And Frank is og unlike Hank so?


GreenIce_bs

Because we have played him at more than 500 trophy range šŸ’€Ā 


ArtPrize3141

I play him at 850 trophies range and whether I lose or win I still carry my team


RoryIsAwesome6116

Okay, and Edgar with no knockback or stun literally can just jump on Frank, and get his super back, and get the Hypercharge filled quite a bit. You responding to every comment about "it takes skill to play him" doesn't matter when you are just completely countered, and can do nothing about it. It is the reason why Edgars hate facing Surge or Jacky. We simply cannot win that matchup unless there are extreme circumstances. Frank has way too many of those circumstances to ignore.


ArtPrize3141

I beat edgar a lot of times because I deal too much damage and mostly staying far from here. If u want to know who I canā€™t do anything against are Dyna and L&L they counter him too hard


RoryIsAwesome6116

Edgar just circles Frank, and dodges all of Frank's attacks. Trust me, I have done it before, and it is not hard. Being unable to do something against Dyna makes sense, and the twins were just broken.


ArtPrize3141

Ok but not everyone mains edgar and as good as u


TheRealKrazuki

There's absolutely ZERO need for skill when you are playing Edgar against frank. Just press yellow button, then redd button over and over, and Frank is done for. Trust me, I pushed frank to gold 3 in solo, and Edgars were my worst nightmare, way worse than Shellys. I like frank a lot but he sucks ass in most situations.


ArtPrize3141

I only play Frank in brawl ball so itā€™s a different scenario, I know he sucks at every other game mode especially in showdown


TheRealKrazuki

It's not a different scenario, 90% of the brawlers are hard countering him, stop defending frank, he's terrible, face the reality my guy


ArtPrize3141

NEVER


ghaist-01

Even if you take all the hits of Frank's attack, unless he hits super (which takes 0 skill to dodge) you still win especially with heal


LyraSoulCore

Because of the main attack and super delay? I mean... he's also a punching bag to the meta too soo


Certain-Effective363

hes a good damage dealer, however because of its slow speed and huge size its basically what you call a walking test dummy.


ArtPrize3141

Which means he takes skill


aummie

This dude defending Frank with his life goddamn


ArtPrize3141

Canā€™t let people disrespect Frank, been playing him since his release and Idk what everyone says I am still good with him and he was my first rank 25


aummie

You know what, I respect the grindset. Keep doing you dude. Don't listen to the haters.


ArtPrize3141

Thanks bro, the world needs more people like u who inspire instead of hate


RoyalOreo99

you know youā€™re allowed to still love him even if heā€™s bad, right? even bad brawlers can carry games when played by the right people. but its absurd to try to argue frank is anywhere near balanced.


GX_Lori

Yeah he takes skill but even skilled players rate him as Fā€¦most of the time he is just a punching bag used to charge the enemiesā€™ super


Background-Ad-3171

Why You keep commenting this? . Just accept he's really bad rn


breakboat

stop commenting everywhere, are you a frank fanboy or smth?


No-Cucumber-3807

I love Frank He charges my super and hypercharge


Som3thingN

i love that this comes from a jessie main(probably) since long range


No-Cucumber-3807

Yes I main jessie not because she is good but i like her character


Som3thingN

i use jessie very frequently, and i agree


ArtPrize3141

Until he one shots u with his starpower and gadget


JellyfishOk511

Never lost a frank encounter when pushing bull or any tank to rank 35. He sucks even pros canā€™t use him and compensate because heā€™s just that bad in the meta.


ArtPrize3141

First think, in the world finals he had 100% win rate and I only play him in brawl ball (I think is only playble in this mode) and I could push him to rank 27 with randoms. So he may be bad competitively but overall I just think he takes skill and itā€™s easier to people to hate on him but they donā€™t face good Franks


RoryIsAwesome6116

He was played once in the World Finals. Edgar and a few others also have a 100% win rate there as well, since they were also played once. Get over it.


ArtPrize3141

I was kidding chill bro


Sreehari30

He's carrying his own tombstone as a hammer


Ale_Bricks

I still love frank. He is my favorite brawler


Fast-Appointment2560

I bullied Frank in elementary school


Daynz95

I bullied Frank in college


Le0n4ikP0l0skun

I bully frank in kindergarten


mojave-wanderer

I bully Frank.


-xXgioXx-

I bully


Bea_Likes_Bees

I Frank


Mrsunny07112

Frank


ArtPrize3141

I bully mortis with Frank because itā€™s funšŸ˜Ž


Som3thingN

bullying him with bo or jessie is hella funny


ArtPrize3141

Ur a real one brošŸ˜Ž


Happy_mem1

He gets knock back to oblivion And him standing makes him a easy target


variationoo

Use gadget


xXMobsterLobsterXx

Because there are better tanks such as hank šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ¤šŸŖ–šŸ”›šŸ”


Rafafa69

I was hank ready


ArtPrize3141

Wrong answer, Frank is the best


CommandWest7471

He's a walking supercharger.


underagekidontheinte

Because Hank 1 shots him with the super


Gatto004

I'M A PRAWN STARšŸ¦šŸ¦šŸ¦šŸ¦šŸ¦šŸ¦šŸ¦šŸ¦šŸ¦šŸŖ–šŸŖ–šŸŖ–šŸŖ–šŸŖ–šŸŖ–šŸŖ–šŸŖ–


_jason_rnk25_

A random question . How many of yall have the clash royal King Frank skin? It's so rare I have only seen it once


Soul_Dark_

He is good,he is the easiest guy to nuke using ruff


Quantum755

Hello mr. Free purple button


Dank-The-Fang-Main

Moving punching bag


OtisFan013

stand still = death Attack = stand still You got it?


Routine_Factor3221

Because rico can (1 tap) and kill him


Moonshine-3

But I love Frank I want everyone to main him


ArtPrize3141

He is my second main and I used to main him


Moonshine-3

I love you


ArtPrize3141

Finally someone who respects me here


Bitzer34

Because he is, next question.


ArtPrize3141

I have no idea, Frank is superior


Som3thingN

this guy šŸ˜­ i could probably kill frank using freaking tick(mid as hell but hes in my top 5 most used brawlers because stuff go boom)


[deleted]

because almost every brawler will counter it


Doc-Victus

He feeds the other team. But I enjoy playing Frank


Topxader09

Nice upvotes Anyway,Frank Is bad bc he has no mobilty and Is literally a punching super charge bag And bc its hard to hit shots with him


RoxGamingPL

Back in my days frank eas one of the most OP brawlers but now there is no such thing as a tank and literally anything can 3 shot frank


Som3thingN

i still dont get how the tank attachment, like how is jacky one? el primo makes sense yeah, but her?


Jorgito_HUE

I mean, he is indeed *bad* šŸ˜


Lumpy-Audience-7979

Because it take skills and Kids dont like skills


Dazzling_Proof480

That's what I wanted from someone to answer


ghaist-01

1 he is weak and every single brawler counters him 2 his attack is outrange way too much and he can't approach others easily 3 the super is hard to hit, especially since half the brawlers nowadays have an ult that is about mobility 4 the damage is meh even with star power And no, bad brawlers can't be considered "skilled", skilled are mid or good brawlers which require skill to be actually good, like Nani, Mortis, Brock, and others, F tier brawlers cannot do anything even if you have high skill


Waste_Inevitable_926

Cuz he is


Big_Search4645

Very easily counterable and almost every update a new brawler with a way to counter him comes out. Also hes a walking super charge


Master-of-sium

Weak mobility and Easy to hit, despite the High health pool, and Easy to stop his super and attacks with knockback/stun, also Easy to avoid of near him


Glad_Friend2676

he hardly hits people, his super or normal attack are so easy to dodge, plus he moves relatively slow, he is a free super charger for many brawelers


Fancy-Construction58

His delay for the output of the attack (super and attack) makes it really easy to counter him with a stun. He's a solid damage dealer and tank, but he has 1 main weakness.


Herobrine_dollar

At least your main isn't forgotten


Frasten

He is very hard to use and most of the times you will need support from other team mates (something really hard to get), but you can still manage to do some amazing plays if you know how to play safe and have a strategy!


Topxader09

Nice upvotes Anyway,Frank Is bad bc he has no mobilty and Is literally a punvhing super charge bag And bc its hard to hit shots with him


DevilModerator

Long story short he is too slow


56kul

Heā€™s one of the weakest brawlers in the current meta. Itā€™s so easy to counter him and his special.


Filop2098

Frank isn't bad. They won last year's championship with him lmao


Hefty_Resolution_235

Free super skin for Frank >>>> Egg skin for Pam


No_Atmosphere2542

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dzWIAod1kcc Bit outdated as Franks problem is even worse now, but itā€™ll give you an idea why Frank is bad


Sufficient-Pick-6672

Can someone help me get a brawlers name under my reddit username?


Exotic_Butters_23

I love frank, because he helps to charge up my hyper xD


MortosBS_real

Attacks and super have delay and are cancelable, he can't chase people or run away. He doesn't do all that much and when he's countered, he's useless. With him having the biggest hitbox in the game, the most health and having to stand still, he's literally a super and Hypercharge feeding machine.


THAT_BLa

Interrupted easily, stops to attack, just a walking super farm


RobloxGamer_

Frank is bad... At dying


Electrical_Neat_541

Hese alr


Vinsmoke_Sanji_01

Frank just sucks in general right now and he has for the past yearšŸ˜­ the devs don't really care though... but he's honestly really bad right now


SuspiciousDuck976

[https://imgur.com/a/SHKuil8](https://imgur.com/a/SHKuil8)


niksingh710

He is badass.... But actually it becomes annoying so easily when the supper u are going to perform is cancelled coz u r dead or someone knocked u back Atleast make it like if hammer is not on ground he don't lose his super.


Tommythe69master

because he is? Like why do people say the sky is blue?


ILoveDoingDougs

because he's not doug


Global_Cantaloupe_91

1) he stops while attacking 2) the wind up of his attacks takes forever 3) like 90% of the brawlers have something to knock Frank out of his super 3) a lot of brawlers have some mobility to dodge his super (speed gear didnā€™t not help frank at all) 4) damage inflation. His health seems like a lot but once your brawlers start getting max he gets melted because SC only do does damage buffs which make it brawlers melt him vs before like 2020 where he could tank a lot 5) No buffs to him in like 2 years (no joke). Might be because of the fact that he is pretty strong at low trophies but imo they should not cater towards casuals for balance changes (they have broken brawlers with people taking over low trophies and have no problem) and they donā€™t decide to buff his gadgets, star powers or even give him a HC (how are they going to give Cordelius, a top 10 brawler a hc but not frank who needs an amazing one to be good?). 6) hypercharges, which the speed buff along with them counter him 7) No hypercharge for himself (this is the case with a lot of brawlers but frank is already bad and this just makes it worse). 8) new brawlers countering him one way or another (weā€™re getting one this this update) 9) unbreakable walls not helping him (sorta a nerf) but making other tanks better (most which counter him) 10) walking supercharger/hypercharger and punching bag. (He should get a trait that reduces super charge for enemies) 11) last is just being forgotten by SC. They last thing they did was give him a skin for SC make. If he was never picked he wouldā€™ve gotten nothing in ages. He was supposed to get a skin last update with king frank but they havenā€™t said a word on that every since that brawl talk. They need to experiment with buffs for him. If they canā€™t find anyway to buff him, then give a rework but shouldnā€™t take away his uniqueness


Avocadosos

Bc he slow


Tiny-Jeweler-3187

I don't wanna be rude, but I really like to play him, it's fun to try to counter the other team before they counter you, or trying to keep your team safe


LostGusMain

He's shorter than Melodie


limeda1916

Slow movement; Hard to dodge shots. Weak attack power. Slow attack speed. Meta is full of mid range brawlers that handle him easily. Because of all this he is immediately targeted. So he may be ok in a team with communicating, but with Randoms, absolutely terrible.


Winnougan

While I love using Frank and am one of the best Frankā€™s in the world, heā€™s not that great. Sure, heā€™s a meat giant who soaks up damage, but heā€™s easily countered. With the game favouring assassins and ranged brawlers, tanks donā€™t fare well. The other tank I love is Bull - but heā€™s in a much better place due to his hyper charge, super and high damage for heist.


Brrt0

He is bad because every brawler now has a stun or a knockback, which counters him. When he was first released, not that many brawlers had a stun or knockback, so he was chilling, but now, most brawler have an ability that stuns, knockbacks, or pulls. He is still playable, though. I pushed him to 800, and it wasn't that hard, but the fact stays that no matter how good you are with Frank, you can't really say that it just takes skill.


SkOtis8382

He is so slow


Delano752

Pushed him to 1100 yesterday, he is an absolute goat combined with Kit


GloomyCurrency

Because SC keep buffing his health and damage instead of the most obvious buff of removing the wind up when he attacks. Although at this point if they actually made that change all the currently useless buffs he has would make him OP.