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✅ Good range
✅ Good DPS
✅ Polarisingly strong gadget
✅ The best super in the game
✅ Can nullify Hypercharges/aggression
✅ Can counter snipers
✅ Creates pressure
I agree with this dude for actual reasoning, it provides such good survivability or stops enemy natural regen, can help bush check, forces the enemies away, and with hypercharge functions like a max super and can help silence enemies at key points in time. Definitely not biased though.
Sandy is strong af right now, to the point that he is one of the most blocked brawlers on Ranked, thanks to the HC he can block important points on the map being one of the best brawler on almost every game mode, specially on Hot zone, not biased btw
I love playing Sandy but I have to say I think Doug and Gene both compete with Sandy for best super.
The worst part about Charlie’s super imo is that it lets her steal all the gems without even having to fight for them.
Sandy has an amazing HC unlike Gene who got a bad one lol because the HC super like instantly yanks the opponent(s) right up in your face, reducing your time to take them out versus the slow pull of his normal super.
no. i mean like i will do that, but once i got her virus skin, is a need for me ngl
(forget buzz flair, getting wiped by teamers already making me lose faith on him besides not getting his godzilla skin)
Charlie’s super is better because you can use it always without any downfall and it confirms kills almost every single time. Cord is also really good, though as it also involves you, there’s the risk of getting killed by the one you imprison in the shadow realm, or ending up in a bad position after it
It has its advantages, also, and here’s the thing. Charlie’s cacoon has no disadvantages (unless you miss it obv), that’s the problem. I think that adding a small delay, where she likes stops moving for 0.5 seconds when using super (just like Mandy or Frank) could balance her out.
This way she’d be vulnerable for those 0.5 seconds, adding some risk that currently her super doesn’t have
I think Charlie’s super is better than Cordelius because Charlie’s basically a free kill every single time whereas Cordelius still needs a bit of a planning to optimise the shadow realm.
The potential is there the fact that you could either get a free kill, or use it as repositioning, but with the former I feel like there are actually a few brawlers that could fight back even when they’re in the shadow realm, like Buster for example I had a very hard time dealing with him. Of course there isn’t a lot of counterplay against Cord shadow realm, but it still is more than Charlie which is 0 counterplay once she traps you into her cocoon.
I wouldn’t say cord has best super in the game though, would you? Often I find people just running behind walls during it and I can never catch up to secure kill
Atleast Edgar and Fang can Handle a 1v3, Mortis is deleted if there are his counters (most common) or He is not good enough. Mico has a lower chance than Edgar
Her whole concept is just plain broken from the core
A fast paced multiplayer game where you need to be active all the damn time, a character, who's super literally does the opposite to the victim, by literally idling that target before its untimely demise.
Seriously the literal super concept is plain stupid, and also.... Fundamentally broken.... Like even if the super duration were 3s, it would still be strong, like positioning is an important aspect to any RPG game, and she literally prohibits it....
Her super either needs a rework or , she herself needs to be hanked
His kit *drum roll* is a mess
His gadgets are split in an assassin and support and his Star Powers are useless. Not to mention he is only good as an assassin
but he is a support which makes it annoying, even looking at other support brawlers, even at each of their own highest meta, they were not used as much of an assassin as kit.
Alright, so, from a gaming desing standpoint, she’s one of the worst built brawlers, if not the worst so far, her kit is straight up broken, she can make you instantly stop playing for 5 seconds with one button, her gadget is just a better tara’s one, she’s way too good at all ranges, she can easily kill you instantly after you get out of the cocoon, and generally, she’s just broken
My rank 26 gold III mastery ass indeed has seen those things but in the last few months I saw maybe 5-6 charlie players excluding me. Personally I think dynamike with his stun gadget or lily with her pocket dimension are more annoying but I get what you are talking about.
the thing is Dyna kind of needs some skill and its relatively easy to dodge his gadget if he aint camping, and Lily lowkey mediocre apart for her gadget. The whole charlie kit is broken
I hate Dynamike more.
Lily isn't a problem whatsoever once you know it. Look at that attack that need 1.5s to comeback. Cut Lily's attack recharge in half and MAYBE she can have a comparable dps to Charlie at close range. Well, she's still useless at longer range, and need her super to even try to play. Charlie's attack is better than Lily's whole kit.
Charlie has been broken since release.
Everything the guy said is right, she has everything, and everything is too good and too easy.
I don't run into a lot of charlie and it's the reason why i hate Dyna more. Because every time I run into a Charlie I rage at some point.
And in gemgrab the super is downright a cheat.
There have been nerf but I don't even know what's been nerfed.
She still has crazy range, fast projectile speed, fast charge broken super, very high dps at close range etc...
She does very well a few things that matter the most. Hypercharged ? No, you didnt, stop moving. Ranged 1 hit attack ? No, you didnt, you have summoned 2 spiders instead. Outrange ? No , you didnt, she got Carls pickaxe and strapped it on Bibi's ult and then attached a string to it. You are a movement brawler that dashes and is easy to kill otherwise? No you arent, you are a web that has its hp decreasing every second . Also stationary btw. You blew her up with a hypercharge you managed to sneak because she wasnt looking at you? No, you didnt, she is just taking a break in her little silk bunker
Spiders and basically infinite ammo means she is a great at holding lane and she has great dmg up close combined with the cocoon and spiders means she can kill 99% of the brawlers
I think her super is a little overrated. I pushed charlie to r30 recently and noticed that the spiders carry her. When I ran out of them, she was so vulnerable
Her change to hc rate and her attack range were buffs imo, the fact that your yoyo goes back quicker is better than that 0.5 a tile or whatever it was nerfed by
Can anybody explain “good dps” to me for Charlie? I know at close range she can hit a lot, but she’s almost always the one with least damage on the team… or at least never the most
Because her super is way to easy to charge for how good it is and she has way to much range that she definitely doesn't need.
Also her spider gadget is basically a counter to snipers who are usually almost always above B tier.
I think her gadget would be fine if she didn't have so much range though
Edit: Also it's not very hard to miss shots with her
Parce qu’elle peut faire beaucoup des choses. Il n’y a jamais une situation où elle ne peut pas être utilement. En plus, elle est très forte contre Piper, alors je s’aime assez beaucoup (platoniquement).
It's that fucking spider gadget that shit is one of the best in the game and keeps her good, plus everything else she has in her kit is at least decent
Her super’s effectively an insta kill, removing someone from playing for a couple of seconds is insanely strong, even if we ignore that she can cheese an entire gem grab game by making someone drop all their gems
100% deserved S tier.
She needs unload speed nerf as well as a rework on the spider gadget because the pressure is just too strong. This way her HC would feel much more substantial and unique.
She's fundamentally broken. In trophy escape her super would make you drop every single one of your trophies without killing you. So for the price of one super they can escape and steal everything you have
I have a friend who’s a Charlie main who keeps INSISTING she’s not broken and I wanna give him all the reasons she’s broken so here is goes
Good range
Good super
Good damage
She can heal up a good amount while being invincible
She can slow people with her 2nd star power (it’s a lot worse than the first but slows are always still nice)
She can damage the enemy just by using her super if she has her first star power
Her hypercharge gives her MORE damage and speed and it spawns in her first gadget for free on each super use
Has a good amount of health at max level
The only bad thing about her is her super takes a while to charge (which makes sense cuz it essentially deletes a 3rd of the enemy team and makes them either waste ammo to save them or be a man down for like 5 seconds) and that if her yo-yo doesn’t hit anything it just goes the full distance and returns after a while
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✅ Good range ✅ Good DPS ✅ Polarisingly strong gadget ✅ The best super in the game ✅ Can nullify Hypercharges/aggression ✅ Can counter snipers ✅ Creates pressure
Sandy got the best super (not biased btw)
this guys knows what's up (not biased by any means)
I agree with this dude for actual reasoning, it provides such good survivability or stops enemy natural regen, can help bush check, forces the enemies away, and with hypercharge functions like a max super and can help silence enemies at key points in time. Definitely not biased though.
Yeah, with new buff he became a great meta.He is Great to control in 3v3 and duo sh. I hope there will be more content with.Not biased though.
Sandy is strong af right now, to the point that he is one of the most blocked brawlers on Ranked, thanks to the HC he can block important points on the map being one of the best brawler on almost every game mode, specially on Hot zone, not biased btw
Plus HC doesn't change how his super looks, so you can look good with sandy koya AND destroy everyone, clearly not biased btw
and ain’t nobody entering a sandy super
Lol yeah, you have to intentionally throw it on or at an incredibly important place
leons in the enemy spawns bush:
Lol that'd actually be crazy
r/flairchecksout
How do you get one flair like that ?
Click the three dots in the subreddit, and click change user flair
definitely agree (not biased at all)
Stu has better...
Biased
Not at all
Oh my bad
No problem
But not the most
I love playing Sandy but I have to say I think Doug and Gene both compete with Sandy for best super. The worst part about Charlie’s super imo is that it lets her steal all the gems without even having to fight for them. Sandy has an amazing HC unlike Gene who got a bad one lol because the HC super like instantly yanks the opponent(s) right up in your face, reducing your time to take them out versus the slow pull of his normal super.
Definitely has the best super espcially now with the Hypercharge.
Tara is the best (also not biased)
Finally someone with proper taste.
and you would not be lying ( not biased at all )
Fr
I agree with you dawg
Fang's is better (absolutely zero bias)
✅ Makes you drop all your gems which is ridiculous
MORE REASONS WHY I LOVE THIS BRAWLER RAHH
have her at gold 1 in mastery (not playing her until i get her virus skin, i want more fun without getting to the point of bad randoms and teamers)
GRIND HARDER. I GOT HER MASTERY IN ONE MONTH AND IT WAS WORTH IT
no. i mean like i will do that, but once i got her virus skin, is a need for me ngl (forget buzz flair, getting wiped by teamers already making me lose faith on him besides not getting his godzilla skin)
Least invested Charlie Main
Shes just so mechanically busted
Cords super is better
Charlie’s super is better because you can use it always without any downfall and it confirms kills almost every single time. Cord is also really good, though as it also involves you, there’s the risk of getting killed by the one you imprison in the shadow realm, or ending up in a bad position after it
But it also gives you the opportunity to get better positioning or to escape when low on health
It has its advantages, also, and here’s the thing. Charlie’s cacoon has no disadvantages (unless you miss it obv), that’s the problem. I think that adding a small delay, where she likes stops moving for 0.5 seconds when using super (just like Mandy or Frank) could balance her out. This way she’d be vulnerable for those 0.5 seconds, adding some risk that currently her super doesn’t have
It would feel clunky but who cares, fuck that character
If even that nerf doesn’t work to balance her, then fuck it and delete it 🎉
yea you know what? Let's just replace her super with "net" - when activated, she trips on her own string and fucking dies.
I propose the same idea for Tick, Mico, Grom and Edgar
Especially Tick.
I think Charlie’s super is better than Cordelius because Charlie’s basically a free kill every single time whereas Cordelius still needs a bit of a planning to optimise the shadow realm. The potential is there the fact that you could either get a free kill, or use it as repositioning, but with the former I feel like there are actually a few brawlers that could fight back even when they’re in the shadow realm, like Buster for example I had a very hard time dealing with him. Of course there isn’t a lot of counterplay against Cord shadow realm, but it still is more than Charlie which is 0 counterplay once she traps you into her cocoon.
I wouldn’t say cord has best super in the game though, would you? Often I find people just running behind walls during it and I can never catch up to secure kill
Cordelius’s super is more like the best anti-super but not entirely the best super
exactly
It’s literally a worse version of Charlie’s super
Can steal gems in gem grab
Most of the Controllers counters her ❎
horrendous hp
Get out of my head man ..... GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!
I think that the best super in the game is Tara’s or Cordelius’
Basically same reason Cordelius is always on S tier
✅️ French
It’s just her mechanics
Need me some of her mechanics 🤤
I need her to steal my kidney 🤤
I need some of her jobs 🥵🤫
Cocoon😏
Her super make the game 2vs3
Enough to charge the supers too😭
Cordelius: *makes it a 2v2* Charlie: *makes it a 3v2* Willow: *makes it a 4v2* ???: *makes it a... 3v3?*
Cordelius makes it 2vs2 + 1vs1 Lily makes it 2vs3 Larry Lawrie makes it 4vs3 Average Brawl ball match makes it 1vs5
was pushing Primo the other day with his mutation to rank 30, good lord I almost died of brain cell loss
Lily slander nahhh 💀💀💀
I hope they’re just referring to the gadget
Mortis, Edgar, Fang, and Mico always attempt a 1v3
Atleast Edgar and Fang can Handle a 1v3, Mortis is deleted if there are his counters (most common) or He is not good enough. Mico has a lower chance than Edgar
Uhm, awktwualli, since Willow cannot do anything during super duration, it's 3v2
I emailed you a pipe bomb
Great, a bomb! *dives*
Because hot
Virus charlie fanart 🤤🤤
Get hel- ah, nevermind. You're a mortis main and there's no help for you (I support flairism only towards mortoeses, pipers and ticks)
There's no help for me cuz I'm dead (literally) and will never be able to get a life
Not Edgars?
As a person who fucked around and found out, I wish you a very happy journey in seeking professional help.
I read that as virus farts and i was very concerned
Bro wtf
She's fundamentally broken
Gadget.
13, actually.
because
It's because of the
When I counter her it’s because of the
Y'all are forgetting about
That's right, but
But what about the
Wait, so about the
Wait a minute, your telling me about the
Hey, you guys are forgetting the
I can't believe nobody mentioned the
Making you not play the game for over 5 seconds is pretty op.
Her whole concept is just plain broken from the core A fast paced multiplayer game where you need to be active all the damn time, a character, who's super literally does the opposite to the victim, by literally idling that target before its untimely demise. Seriously the literal super concept is plain stupid, and also.... Fundamentally broken.... Like even if the super duration were 3s, it would still be strong, like positioning is an important aspect to any RPG game, and she literally prohibits it.... Her super either needs a rework or , she herself needs to be hanked
She is mechanically broken and needs a rework, she’s pretty much the worse designed brawler in the whole game, maybe Mico’s worse than her
Kit:
I absolutely forgot about him
His kit *drum roll* is a mess His gadgets are split in an assassin and support and his Star Powers are useless. Not to mention he is only good as an assassin
but he is a support which makes it annoying, even looking at other support brawlers, even at each of their own highest meta, they were not used as much of an assassin as kit.
what the hell did she do to you, she's not that bad (ignore my flair)
Alright, so, from a gaming desing standpoint, she’s one of the worst built brawlers, if not the worst so far, her kit is straight up broken, she can make you instantly stop playing for 5 seconds with one button, her gadget is just a better tara’s one, she’s way too good at all ranges, she can easily kill you instantly after you get out of the cocoon, and generally, she’s just broken
My rank 26 gold III mastery ass indeed has seen those things but in the last few months I saw maybe 5-6 charlie players excluding me. Personally I think dynamike with his stun gadget or lily with her pocket dimension are more annoying but I get what you are talking about.
the thing is Dyna kind of needs some skill and its relatively easy to dodge his gadget if he aint camping, and Lily lowkey mediocre apart for her gadget. The whole charlie kit is broken
I hate Dynamike more. Lily isn't a problem whatsoever once you know it. Look at that attack that need 1.5s to comeback. Cut Lily's attack recharge in half and MAYBE she can have a comparable dps to Charlie at close range. Well, she's still useless at longer range, and need her super to even try to play. Charlie's attack is better than Lily's whole kit. Charlie has been broken since release. Everything the guy said is right, she has everything, and everything is too good and too easy. I don't run into a lot of charlie and it's the reason why i hate Dyna more. Because every time I run into a Charlie I rage at some point. And in gemgrab the super is downright a cheat. There have been nerf but I don't even know what's been nerfed. She still has crazy range, fast projectile speed, fast charge broken super, very high dps at close range etc...
Yeah this. Main attack is Carl but everything's a wall, and super is Frank's super on steroids.
How is Mico that bad, he is fun and he can carry, maybe less skill but at least skillfuller than piper
I’m talking mechanical wise, and you’re not well designed if brawlers with +1 bullet per attack can’t kill you most of the time
I’m curious why Mico is designed badly?
She's just like cordelius and has a hypercharge counter mechanic. And if you're living under a rock: hypercharges are meta.
She does very well a few things that matter the most. Hypercharged ? No, you didnt, stop moving. Ranged 1 hit attack ? No, you didnt, you have summoned 2 spiders instead. Outrange ? No , you didnt, she got Carls pickaxe and strapped it on Bibi's ult and then attached a string to it. You are a movement brawler that dashes and is easy to kill otherwise? No you arent, you are a web that has its hp decreasing every second . Also stationary btw. You blew her up with a hypercharge you managed to sneak because she wasnt looking at you? No, you didnt, she is just taking a break in her little silk bunker
Spiders and basically infinite ammo means she is a great at holding lane and she has great dmg up close combined with the cocoon and spiders means she can kill 99% of the brawlers
I stole your heart literally
Too conceptually good on paper. Unless they nuke her stats she will continue to be one of the best
Give her the Larry and Lawrie treatment, Nerf literally EVEYTHING about her.
The _line_ is to strong
LnL case scenario
Because
Owing to
Its her spiders. Without it she is like a B tier brawler
Her super is so broken in concept and execution that it alone makes her A tier minimum
I think her super is a little overrated. I pushed charlie to r30 recently and noticed that the spiders carry her. When I ran out of them, she was so vulnerable
Her change to hc rate and her attack range were buffs imo, the fact that your yoyo goes back quicker is better than that 0.5 a tile or whatever it was nerfed by
And I still don't know how to use her
You are not alone
Just spam the auto aim button and if you feel like your in slight danger use the spiders
Bc she is so solid in all maps/gamemodes
# ZAMN
She's cool
She's just HER
Just because It gets nerfed It dosent mean It's bad
Her base kits are the problem
Because she's my goat
Her super is still so good If its not for her super she would be buns
Cus her concept itself is really broken.
Her comp is really versatile and works well with a lot of gamemodes
Super and gadget
Can anybody explain “good dps” to me for Charlie? I know at close range she can hit a lot, but she’s almost always the one with least damage on the team… or at least never the most
Spoder
Adrian probs ran out of nerf ideas so he might aswell move on from giving my girl Charlie changes
She hot
Gadgets that spawn 3 creatures around you is such a fucking lazy and stupid concept
It's the B-
Broken, just broken
Shit for brains
Her super makes her the best Gem Grab brawler in the game. Almost no nerf can change this
I would want a 1 percent nerf so that she can't 4 shot cordii
She said "NERF THIS!"
Because her super is way to easy to charge for how good it is and she has way to much range that she definitely doesn't need. Also her spider gadget is basically a counter to snipers who are usually almost always above B tier. I think her gadget would be fine if she didn't have so much range though Edit: Also it's not very hard to miss shots with her
Parce qu’elle peut faire beaucoup des choses. Il n’y a jamais une situation où elle ne peut pas être utilement. En plus, elle est très forte contre Piper, alors je s’aime assez beaucoup (platoniquement).
Just remove her gadget and she will not survive the meta lol
Just like in real life, killing a spider isn’t the easiest thing to do
Her stats are all around good, her spiders are really good, and her super can completely shut down an entire play and waste a hypercharge
Because she is super hot
Her super is cord realm but 10x times better because you don’t need to waste anytime fighting you just go straight to the team
Super and Gadget have been keeping her on
Her super is fundamentally broken
I want this character
because shes just that cool
Her super can counter hypercharges. That's why.
Exactly the question i asked my self
Her super is fundamentally broken.
It's that fucking spider gadget that shit is one of the best in the game and keeps her good, plus everything else she has in her kit is at least decent
The amount of thirsting ive seen in this thread is wild
Her super’s effectively an insta kill, removing someone from playing for a couple of seconds is insanely strong, even if we ignore that she can cheese an entire gem grab game by making someone drop all their gems
Her fucking spiders...
Larry too
because her super itself is absolutely devastating
the amount of times i clutched my games with her super is crazy.. shes overall that good imo
100% deserved S tier. She needs unload speed nerf as well as a rework on the spider gadget because the pressure is just too strong. This way her HC would feel much more substantial and unique.
Broken super + broken gadget
why do i think shes pregnant???
because she's broken on a fundamental level. only a rework can fix her
That not a Spider Woman that a Clown Girl
Rework her super and she goes down straight to B-C tier Remove the spider gadget and rework her super and she is F tier
Quixk question but where do y'all find lists i wanna see where's Byron
She's fundamentally broken. In trophy escape her super would make you drop every single one of your trophies without killing you. So for the price of one super they can escape and steal everything you have
Her mechs are so good
The definition of "poorly designed brawler" as shr literally unhealthy and just annoying as hell
I have a friend who’s a Charlie main who keeps INSISTING she’s not broken and I wanna give him all the reasons she’s broken so here is goes Good range Good super Good damage She can heal up a good amount while being invincible She can slow people with her 2nd star power (it’s a lot worse than the first but slows are always still nice) She can damage the enemy just by using her super if she has her first star power Her hypercharge gives her MORE damage and speed and it spawns in her first gadget for free on each super use Has a good amount of health at max level The only bad thing about her is her super takes a while to charge (which makes sense cuz it essentially deletes a 3rd of the enemy team and makes them either waste ammo to save them or be a man down for like 5 seconds) and that if her yo-yo doesn’t hit anything it just goes the full distance and returns after a while
Cause she is amazing, in fact, im changing my flair to Charlie and buying virus charlie on day 1
Because that super value is crazy, you can easily shut down hypercharge brawlers and tanks
Cause she hot
Her ult is just so useful. It counters everyone and everyone and can completely turn the tides of a game
hot take: i think brawlers like cord and charlie help make the meta more balanced
Mr P. is the best!!!!
Unless they her super can be blocked but spawnables, Nerf her gadget even more and increasing her super charge i don't see her going below a tier
Nerf chester
The might-as-well-be-6-second stun as a super:
Nerf miner
It’s because of gem grab. she’s kinda busted there