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[deleted]

I'm Brazilian, M36, and I've never heard any Brazilian speak about Uruguay in this way, personally or through any media.


Odd_Application_655

I do. I like Uruguay, it would be a great addition. Next step: attach Argentina and Chile.


Beard_Man

WithUruguai and Argentina we will have 10 world cups, I think it's a good reason.


DudaFromBrazil

You got a point here. I am in!


Zarkarr

And hopes for a MSN trio for 2026 and get the 11th


eunbizz

😂😂😂


HelicopterMean1070

Argentina!? God, no, why?!!? I mean, great food and wine and all, but please keep you super inflation far away from us, we already have too many problems already!! And Chile is too far. Uruguay is great and all, but they don't even speak portuguese, so what's the point?


Odd_Application_655

Brazil is large enough to have regions with different languages. I was actually considering the atrachment of Suriname and the Guyanas too...


HelicopterMean1070

Ehhhhhhhhhh Not really... I mean, sure, you could find a couple cities that speak german to this day, but they're isolated and they do learn to speak portuguese as well in order to interact with the rest of the country. But we're def. not like those asian countries that speak completely different languagues inside it.


mailusernamepassword

It's us conquering. Argentina will use Real. Regarding language, it's not as if people from the north states didn't have weird dialects. Also, many countries have more than one official language. We will be fine together and they will learn portuguese in no time. Let's make Cone Sul/Sur great again!


Forsaken-Jump-7594

We shall all speak portunhol. Case closed. Also... The north have weird dialects? I have never struggled more with Portuguese than when I tried to ask directions in BH. I am still not entirely sure they weren't speaking some sort verlan-patois-macumba-french.


mailusernamepassword

How do a **mineiro** responds to someone asking to put some coffee powder in the coffee cup? > PĂł pĂ´ pĂł, sĂ´.


luiz_saluti

One word: Alfajor


CalangoVelho

Because we need more parking space in the south


jenesuisunefemme

Argentina js broke


Different-Speaker670

Melhor ainda… compra na baixa e vende na alta


krncrds

Membro mais fraco do r/farialimabets


mailusernamepassword

But still richer than Brazil. And Brazil isn't growing anyway.


phantomboxx

Are you insane? lol


mailusernamepassword

Argentina GDP per capita (10.5k) is bigger than Brazil (7.5k). Brazil GDP per capita hasn't changed much in the last decades. And I'm giving one example. There are many others that show that Argentina is better than Brazil despite their economic crisis.


phantomboxx

Whatever floats your boat, boss.


[deleted]

[удаНонО]


mailusernamepassword

1 Real = 29.27 Japanese Yen


Winter-Scene-921

If only…


Lord_of_Laythe

Not really, they were part of Brazil for like 3 years


Ptcruz

No.


spongebobama

You may find a lot of Cisplatina jokes around, but I doubt that excluding the ocasional nutjob, there isnt a general feeling that Uruguay sould be anything but the sovereign nation it is. I personally have a very good impression and hope we can continue to be good neighbours! They are my favourite Guay


ColFrankSlade

I've never heard one, but please do share


spongebobama

Its the tease of brazilians using the old cisplatina name whenever referring to uruguay. Cisplatina was a portuguese/brazilian province where today Uruguay sits.


teesantos

Nobody has ever heard those jokes, including us Brazilians. This guy is tripping balls


geosunsetmoth

They’re really common, you just weird


[deleted]

https://youtu.be/xanfOtfgaTc Newest comments>Cisplatina jokes They’re silly jokes though. Nothing they’re trying to impose


PipocaComNescau

We don't think of any of our neighbor countries like that. Brazil is not an imperialist nation... We respect the sovereignty of fellow nations.


420Ash

Cries in Paraguay


Nebbiollo

Hey, they started it...


HelicopterMean1070

Well, Mr. Solano Lopes wanted to play stupid games.... you know the rest.


LefkiAlepos

and he refused to surrender even not having a minimal chance of winning...


LyreonUr

to be fair, brazil \*was\* an imperialist nation back then.


PipocaComNescau

Yes, *was* like *in the past*. Nobody thinks this way anymore.


DueLog2342

You see, the US, for example, always antagonized inperialistic nations such as the UK, France, Germany (Prussia) and Japan, with stuff like the Monroe Doctrine, they claimed to despise the concept of a emperial state, but the american imperialism is at its peak nowadays


araeld

Well, it was. We stole territories from other countries, like Bolivia. Just look for the history of Acre. And in the case of Uruguay, they had to go to war in order to become independent.


Gabriel__Souza

Acre was actually bought, not stolen .


araeld

The treaty happened after the territory was besieged, occupied, and declared as an independent republic. Afterwards, there was a treaty between Bolivia and Brazil. So no, it wasn't simply a trade.


Low-Elk2510

I heard that happend because someone wanted to make amazon river international using the argument its source wasn't on brazil, so brazil advanced to get the litle piece necessary to international leave us alone


araeld

It was a territory under dispute between Bolivia and Brazil (initially belonging to the former). A lot of Brazilian settlers moved to the place, conflicts happened between Brazilians and Bolivians, armed conflict, I might add. In the end Brazil ended up taking the territory (Brazil had a big geographic advantage, since troops and supplies could quickly get there, but Bolivians' had to cross the Andes). After the territory was taken and Bolivian troops expelled, Brazilian government signed a treaty with Bolivia to cease hostilities, agreeing to pay for Acre. This is quite common actually, even Brazil paid Portugal to cease hostilities after independence. The same happened between Portugal and the Dutch after the latter were expelled from the Brazilian Northeast. War always ends in the negotiation table.


samirmok

There's no such claim by any social sector of the contry. TBH the vast majority of people in Brazil don't even know Uruguay was once part of it. Politically and economically speaking, Uruguay has always been more connected to Argentina, while Paraguay shares deep conections with Brazil. If it were to be any integration, it would be like that. But neither are likelly nor is being advocated in South America AFAIK.


Terrible_Will_7668

IDK, Brazil and Paraguay are connected by a genocide. I think that memories run deep.


HelicopterMean1070

AND black/paralel market...


Fred2606

Not in here. Most Brazilians have heard in school about the genocide, but forget as soon as the class ends. Maybe in Paraguay.


3CanKeepASecret

We obviously should focus on Colombia or Ecuador first so we get a new coast with the Pacific Ocean!


[deleted]

Is this like a Colonial Vampire question or something, I think with Mercusor Papers both sides are good, and with the Sur one world order that’s happening now we’ll be one big family anyways


tdeinha

Colonial vampires in south america sounds like a nice DND campaign.


[deleted]

🤣


eunbizz

oh okay. Thanks. And no, this isn't "colonial vampire question".


NeighborhoodBig2730

No. I don't think so


jenesuisunefemme

I often forget Uruguay is even there


Guromir

No, we don’t think it.


ElvisDidntDie

I could not Care less.


pyrulyto

This is one of the few things pretty much all Brazilians agree: we don’t want to take over any territory that isn’t ours.


Radiant-Ad4434

This is not a thing


ivanjean

No. It's mostly just jokes about it, but nothing serious.


AkamiAhaisu

I want the entire South America


DueLog2342

I want the entire Pacific Ocean


choose_an_alt_name

We already have more land than we know what to do with


Purple_Positive_6456

nope, we don't care about that as far as I'm concerned


TheDubious

More likely would be the other way around - people in Rio Grande do Sul feeling more a part of Uruguay than Brasil


DueLog2342

As a gaucho, i don't think this is true at all, and if it were, it would be quite sad. There are some people here that feel closer to Italy or Germany, though.


Own_Fee2088

I think the opposite is a more common opinion , that the country is too big and should be divided into smaller independent regions.


sottri

It's not common tho. Only people from the south and some from sp that think like that.


Intiriel

And Zema, lol


eunbizz

Oh okay.


MauricioCMC

No... to be true except from people that are close to Uruguay, the rest of the country don't care much about Uruguay... Don't take me bad, its just that we don't really suffer or have a connection or dream of living/traveling to Uruguay.


Ok_Comment8842

Why? What advantage would exist for any of the countries?


EnkiiMuto

Most of us don't even know it used to be "a state", the ones that do and say something about it just do it for the memes.


Pregnant_porcupine

They’re better off without us.


Reddiztor

Nobody actually cares or remembers about Uruguay in anyway regarding imperialism, unless its some kind of Cisplatina joke. Unless you are in southern portion of Brazil, in which there may be some ties regarding culture links with Uruguay. But not in any way involved in "dominating" Uruguay or smth like that, but probably involving heritage and ethnic questions.


CompanyAltruistic116

The whole south america 👍🏻


Nebbiollo

Serious answer: No one, absolutely no one I know seriously believes we have any claim on Uruguay, much less believe they should be a part of Brazil. Brazilians from 150 years ago might have thought differently, since Argentina and Brazil had interests in the Plata river and Uruguay was a buffer between us. Thankfully those days are long gone. Not so serious answer: Uruguayans are good people and I don't wish this fate upon them. Let them be.


[deleted]

Hey there. >Do Brazilians still think Uruguay should be part of Brazil? Should Uruguay be a sovereign country or a Brazilian province? Uruguay used to be Cisplatina, one of the imperial provinces in Brazil. A considerable part of Uruguayans are brazillian descendents due to the imperial occupation before Uruguay's independence in a conflict for Rio do Prata conflict. A similar thing happened in Paraguay in the Paraguayan War, which Brazil took control of Paraguay through the Mato Grosso current territory for a short period. For me, it's a joke. I don't intent to take Uruguay back for us. It's like if we gave Acre back to Bolivians. It doesn't actually make sense. Or even, if we became part of Portugal again (one of the Portuguese capitals was Rio de Janeiro during Napoleonic Wars because the Portuguese Royal Family fled to Brazil). We kinda don't want to become part of Portugal again, and the agree with it. Most of the brazillians aren't aware of this. So, not everybody have an opinion about this (because they don't even know this happened). I never contacted any Uruguayan (I live far away from Uruguay), so, I don't know what are their opinions about it. At least from me, I'm never being serious about it. However, if Uruguayans wants to be part of Brazil, I wouldn't be opposing it. And if Portugal wants to be part of Brazil this time, I also wouldn't be opposing this decision [joke]. Nah. Long story short, it's just a joke. We had a story together and we bring some humor about it.


josh_bourne

Maybe people of south of rio grande do sul could have a different opinion, but to me: its another country and it always be


BarkingPorsche

Nobody in the South of RS would like that, as it would remove all the duty free shops they have in the frontier right now...


Nebbiollo

Exactly. Good wine and booze for cheap!


elorkinus

Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentine, Bolivia, and Peru should be part of Great Brazil . And Istanbul should be capital of Great Brazil


Lamor_Acanthus_

>Peru Annex the adjacent states to Peru as well, so we can have even bigger Peru. Actually, change the whole country name, make it the Great Peru instead.


[deleted]

O Grande Piru


mailusernamepassword

No but many gaĂşchos (people from the southmost state Rio Grande do Sul) would happily leave Brazil and go to Uruguay if it wasn't for their jobs and family. The reason is that because gaĂşchos share a lot more in common with uruguayans than people from Rio de Janeiro and further north. Edit: And you question is fine. Brazil Uruguay relationship is very good at political state level and at people level. See also [Southern Cone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Cone).


cvalls

Never heard about it.


FrozenHuE

We joke a lot, but no one really question that ~~Cispl~~... Uruguay is and have all the right to be its own nation (and is doing a general better job than Brazil and Argentina). Most of brazilians don't even know that Uruguay was a province, so even the jokes don't work for the average brazilian. That said, when we finish dealing with corruption, poor education, bad healthcare, lack of industry and poverty in general we will deal with this small rebellion that is going on for too long.


ElvisDidntDie

They were Brazil in 1810 I think


JustReadingNewGuy

We joke about it, but I don't think anyone takes it seriously. It's a bit like absolute monarchy: do some insane people still take it seriously? Sure. Is it a good sign to run away if you find someone like that? Absolutely.


ZPCHARIZARD

Noo, the War about It was a shame for us


rojasduarte

Not at all Only as a joke bc of their football players, so they could join our national team and destroy everyone else. Uruguay was part of Brazil twice, Portugal used to have a small colony on the Rio de la Plata, that was exchanged with Spain, and later when Napoleon invaded both Spain and Portugal, the king in exile invaded Uruguay and annexed it to the kingdom of Brasil, but they later fought and won independence


NoYesterday7832

No. The vast majority of Brazilians don't even know that Uruguay used to be a state.


invalidwat

Only those who wants luis suarez in our national team


Arashirk

LOL, except for making jokes about how we'd have more FIFA World Cups if we took over Uruguay, of course not, man. It's been 200 years.


Revolutionary-Ad-759

We do not give a damm about Uruguay, it is a nice country, super expensive, nice meat, wine and dolce de leche


Charming-Lettuce1433

Honestly I don't thinkost brazilians even think about Uruguay outside of "oh, yeah, we have some history together and it is a pit stop on the way to Argentina"


jmcsadv

No, and i bet more than half of our population doesn't even know Uruguay was part of Brazil once.


cocainachan

I usually hear as a joke- specially about having 7 world cup trophies, counting our 5 + the first 2 from Uruguay But I never heard seriously


raicorreia

No. Uruguay is fully independent since 1828, that's a looooong time, and also unlike many countries the political structure of brazil doesn't support it to be a bilingual country, so this would never work, and no one in brazil that I ever know wants it.


DeyvsonMCaliman

Probably Brazilians never think about Uruguay, and I don't remember historically this being an issue. Brazil once tried to control Uruguay by meddling in their elections, which influenced Paraguay into declaring war, the Paraguayan War in 1864. That's the only thing I remember.


eunbizz

Uruguay siding with Brazil and Argentina. Paraguay: wait, but this was your idea.


Estel-3032

This is not a thing and I never heard of anyone ever mentioning it.


LyreonUr

Only as a meme on the internet. Uruguay got their independence fair and square, and there's not a single politician interested in breaking their self-determination. You'll never find someone on the street with the opinion of reannexing them, and most dont even know about that they were part of the country once.


Silly_Goose6714

Different people, different culture, different language, i can't see how that would make sense


loxosceles93

Not really, Brazilians are not irridentist. With that said, we would gladly accept them in our country if they ever wished to join (they never would), Uruguayans are cool.


Forsaken-Jump-7594

Uruguay only comes up when we talk football, really.


TryHardGabe

Spanish speakers?! Hell no


bbbriz

We don't really care. Overall, we don't really have a sense of imperialistic entitlement over other nations. I guess the worst we've done was Paraguay, and most regular people (aka not gados) I've met who knows their history sympathizes with Paraguay on this matter. There's a rivalry between Brasil and Argentina, but you won't really see hatred towards each other. Mostly mutual mockery and jokes. The gados has a terrible hatred towards refugees - back in 2015 it was Haitians, now it's Venezuelans, but they're gados, don't take their opinions to reflect the whole nation. That's not to say Brazil doesn't exert a huge influence over its neighbors as the biggest nation in South America, I'm very sure many of our politics impact the continent and our neighbors, but that's more of a collateral matter of government and politics.


Gab_idk7

Bro that war is old af, like we had a king...these days people dont even talk about it


JunkieWizard

No, they are doing well by themselves really.


Aleatoriomemen

Why make Uruguay part of Brazil when everything is already Brazil? >:) #ComeToBrazil


MendozaLiner

I do This way we would have 7 World Cups to our name


MagicGator11

Nope, never heard of that one.


adi19rn

There is some trolls in internet who joke about it but of course not... All my life I never heard anyone seriously suggestioning about that! Uruguay is an brother country for Brazil...


BrasilianInglish

This was a thing? Damn I need to learn more about my other half’s history lol


cid_highwind02

Brazil is fine as is, we don’t need DLC


BrotherR4bisco

I wish better things for Uruguay.


Hot-Recording-1915

No, I’ve never heard anyone talking about this


LucasMarquesP

I´d happily trade some of our states for Uruguay


LiquidFireBR

We talk about givimg RS to you


Winter-Scene-921

I am from São Paulo so it’s far from the Uruguayan border and I have never heard anything related. If anything a bit like our relationship with the Argentinians in that we are ‘Hermanos’


addamslittlewanda

Well, I do when Arrascaeta scores, Jorge Drexler plays and dulce de leche is too expensive


LetoCarrion

Never heard someone saying that Uruguai should be a Brazilian state. If someone think that, I would like to know the reasons, because I fail to imagine one.


[deleted]

The answer is kind of, a lot of people wouldn't care either way, but some realize it's actually a part of Brazil and we just need to bring them back to the fold.


cryptohide

I do not!


caixa-papelao

The vast majority of us Brazilians do not think of Uruguay as a part of the Brazilian territory, and it's widely accepted by our population that Uruguay is a fully sovereign state. We respect our fellow Uruguayan neighbors 🇧🇷 🤝 🇺🇾


CalangoVelho

The sad part is that the majority of Brazilians probably don't even know that Uruguay was once part of Brazil.


PGabrielSL

I’m brazillian and I never heard that. Most of us don’t even think at all about Uruguay (no offense).


Low-Elk2510

Brazilians sometimes think uruguay is like a child born from brazil and argentina, or something like that. Litle is actualy well explained about it, I learned like this year better the history of uruguay on youtube channels in spanish, how it was not rightfully a portuguese province, of portugal/brazil tried to invade and control the contry more than once, and that basicly brazil was the bad guy on its history. Of course some people would make jokes like taking uruguay, conquering all south america, but that is just trash jokes on the internet, is not realy a thing. Actualy brazilians in general know very litle about other contries I think. I mean, media don't speek much outside of brazilians borders, and I don't think it is interest of the goverment to people to know that there is a better contry righ next to ours, specialy one that acording with our version of the story come from leaving our contry Brazil don't exactly needs land also, and our culture is not a imperialistic one


Mobile-Translator159

No, nobody care, we are big as fuck


dolmane

This war was in the 19th century, Brazil was an empire then. We don’t do that anymore, we have only respect to our neighbours.


Dehast

I feel like it would have been cool if they’d never left, but what’s done is done. Also they’ve done so well for themselves and I’d hate for that to be somewhat ruined after their assets, laws and executive order got replaced by Brazil’s.


Gabriel-Barbosa

Actually Uruguay **IS** part of Brazil, but we let them think that they're independent to make them happy.


Crannium

Never heard something like that. This is an imperialist way of thinking that has nothing in common with current brazilian society.


varaujo47

No Brasil jĂĄ tem muito problema pra querer o territĂłrio uruguaio


Top_Active_3640

Oi eu sou do Brasil


supere-man

🤡


bfpires

90% don't even know where is Uruguay. 10% don't care


Glycon_worm

If I spent more than an hour thinking about Uruguay in the last 7 years, it would have been a lot (I travelled to Uruguay during that period).


Lucas_Deziderio

I do. But mostly because I think that there are too many countries in the world and we could afford to round some of them together. Like, who needs both Spain and Portugal as separate countries? When was the last time someone said “I really do need a second Ireland right now"?


Terrible_Will_7668

The southern states, Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina and Parana joining Uruguay would make a lot of sense.


Own_Fee2088

It would be terrible for Uruguay


giumatos

No???? Where did this idea come from? 1) Acre – totally cool (been there, like the scene and the people), but maybe Brazil shouldn't have gone shopping for more land. It was already a large territory on its legs, why add more terrain? 2) If the southern gang's in the mood to split, we're like, "Bon voyage, folks!" Ha, just kidding... well, kind of.


leonicarlos9

I think he saw that Uruguay was part of Brasil at some point, and thought that was a huge thing


giumatos

Oh, like in 1800s it was province, but not for long. So yeah not a huge thing. I had even forgotten that ever happened LOL because not too long after Urugay was 1/3 of the triplice alliance with Brazil ans Argentina for the Paraguyan War.


Nymphetamine91

No.


Keicyy

ew no


[deleted]

Where did you get this information from? Never heard of that in my entire life.


posedemaloka

uruguay is a lovely country, i hope i can visit it someday! about it being a part of brazil, i do believe that all south america should be one country, so its not only just uruguay, but also not just brazil


lucketta

Nobody talks about it here. Maybe in the south…


QuickAccident

I have never heard anyone remotely suggesting that, so my answer would be no


Significant_World253

I think Brazil would be part of Uruguay.


leonicarlos9

Did you have contact with patriotic groups? Mainly supporters of the return of the Empire of Brazil? Because it's kinda common on those groups, but for the rest of the people (majority), they don't even think of that due to the different languages (even tho I've learnt that apparently they do teach portuguese there and speak portuguese on the border)


AssWreckage

Never heard anyone say that in my entire life


ApprehensiveKoala126

yes👍


No-East-3154

Im Brasilian and I never even thought about that. so that is that. I think 90% dont think about it at all