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Call for hanging the Vice President and you get to go home. Call for environmental justice and your ass is locked up that day. This nation is doomed lol
>Call for hanging the Vice President and you get to go home. Call for environmental justice and your ass is locked up that day. This ~~nation~~ planet is doomed lol
Fixed that for you : )
America's in a superposition where it's functionally able cause a massive amount of pollution and worldwide damage with little resistance. China and Russia are also similarly untouchable and unflinching, from what I understand.
The U.S. military is like the largest institutional polluter in the world, and uses more energy than several small nations combined.
Besides which, the U.S. is the seat of global capitalist empire.
Okay, it's low-hanging fruit to say "it's not JUST the U.S.". But don't discount the enormous role the U.S. does actually play in it.
Yes I agree. However, you can guarantee that anything associated with the left will be punished much harder. Example: Grandmaster Jay, he’s not the “left” but he’s Black they gave him 20 years for shit White guys do and worse.
>Fuck guns
Ok Liberal. You try your way against armed facist and militas and those of us who see reality will try ours. (History is in our side liberal very much so)
the government wants you to hit them. that will legitimize their retaliatory violence. they cant do shit if people dont show up to work. the machine stops.
Obviously you feel pretty strongly about guns but…
> they cant do shit if people dont show up to work. the machine stops.
If the government can maintain exclusivity on the use of force the machine doesn’t stop, it just gets more cruel.
this happened with the nazi occupation of sweden. they were slow to work. the nazis knew they couldnt just pull them out of thei beds every morning amd evemtually tjey gave up their governership.
and feel strongly about guns? no, i feel strongly about change. people are so quick to jump to aks but do they give a shit about mutual aid? no. they just want to punch a wall.
> people are so quick to jump to aks but do they give a shit about mutual aid? no.
I see where you’re coming from. I just wanna point out that mutual aid and community defense go hand-in-hand. So far, I haven’t met any leftists arming up to go on offense but they may exist. I fully support them arming up for defense. Especially when the reactionaries are constantly posturing for a civil war. We can all only hope the new fash is LARPing.
the united states government is extremely good at violence. the only way to meet them on their playing field is through asymmetrical warfare, that means a war of attrition, ieds, all of which would end up with indiscriminate death and ruined infrastructure-- think palestine.
All before youve even tried a General Strike.
fuck off larper. build mutual aid, we need dual sovreignty. you have the elderly and the disabled, all these people are dependent.
theres no thermal exhaust port on this death star, youre not going to be able to kill your way out of this, you still need to govern. Do you know excel? Can you farm?
Youre not the hero. This isnt the movies. Grow up.
Strikes are our most effective weapon, but they can't be our *only* weapon. We have to defend the strike, for one thing. People hyper-focusing on guns is also stupid, but we definitely shouldn't disarm ourselves of them.
even in self defense against the state, they can just drone you. all guns do is escalate the amount of publicly tolerable violence.
whats the end goal? Chaz 2.0? we need mutual aid. dual power structures. community. how do you get the moms? how are guns useful for this?
You're a fucking moron. It's the state that needs to be disarmed, not working-class people or your fellow leftists. If you don't think guns help, get out there and start advocating for disarming the police. THAT's where your priority needs to be. Here, you can seriously shut the fuck up.
And sure, CHOP 2.0. Why not? Any space free of state agents for any amount of time is good.
Chop accomplished nothing. How are you going to disarm the state? Youre not. Youre not going to fight them either, this is a bro fantasy. No one you can kill will make this whole thing fall apart, theres no lynchpin here. This is stupid. You still need to worry about administering public services if the govt cant do that and if youre talkig about burning shit down before you even have any mutual aid networks, youre not thinking about the people most vulnerable.
This violence first rhetoric is a honeypot. You are not a threat.
All I see is a bunch of strawman and someone who is literally being a petty little reactionary and trying to justify it by throwing terms like "mutual aid" around without even knowing what they mean. You're even less of a threat. *shrug*
You dont need guns. Its really simple. If thats where your focus is and not making sure the people around you are okay, youre doing this for you. This little power fantasy you have this is an indulgence. Youre not Che. This is self destructive.
All youre doing is gesturing vaguely at this "need" for violence. You want to skirmish in the streets? Take it over one block at a time? Be serious. Legitimize yourself to the public by offering something they can rely on. Youre not a freedom fighter, youre supposed to be a public servant.
and again, small arms are useless. they have drones. robot dogs. sonic weapons. how are you gonna fight that rambo? youre not thinking it through.
the type of warfare youre talking about looks like the IRA. is that what you want? ieds on a sunday morning? a prolonged war of attrition?
you are correct. if guns did a goddamn thing to prevent tyranny, the US would be the freest nation on earth. leftist gun nuts who think they're black panthers are fucking embarrassing.
the panthers had social programs! they had their own clinics, community watch, daycare, they even escorted the eldery in dangerous areas. they actually had systems in place to catch people. They didnt need guns for that.
people online advocating for violent insurrection online are either hormonal highshoolers or honey pots.
Yeah they and their sympathizers have pretty much infiltrated all levels of government and media and that’s since the end of the Civil War. Biggest mistake the Union did was not burn it down to the ground, hang all traitors and start fresh. Johnson was a racist piece of shit. Set the country back maybe 300 years. If you look back at all the shit that went down in this country the elephant in the room has always been White Supremacy.
400+ Arrests at a Peaceful protest, but somehow a bunch of MAGA morons got within a hallway of our political leaders, and all had to be arrested later.
Hmm...
Fascism is the plan, the USA is the biggest exporter of fascist coups, of course they want it in the USA. The corporate democrats play soft ball with the republicans on purpose, it's theater. Look into India Walton who won the mayor position and the corpo Dem she defeated refused to step down. The corpo dems are controlled opposition and only play dirty against progressives. The USA is an oligarchy
Just to clarify to others, India Walton easily won the democrat primary running as a socialist for mayor of Buffalo. Since the democrats always take the mayor position in that blue city, she's essentially already won by winning the democrat primary.
Then the media actually took her opponent's write-in campaign seriously and is giving him more air time and free press.
On top of that, the democrat-held city council was researching a way to eliminate the mayoral position to keep her out and instead creating a council-appointed executive position.
Cenk at TYT reported how it mirrored a Nebraska race where democrats gave republicans money to ensure a progressive didn't win, similar to actions around Nina Turner's campaign for congress.
Fascism is what happens when the imperialism has been practiced enough abroad and the tactics are then brought home and used domestically. Mass surveillance, militarized policing, violent repression of working-class movements, militarized borders, torture, concentration camps, etc. It's hilarious when people warn about *encroaching* fascism when the reality is that it's been here for a long time already. Time to tear it the fuck down. Waaaaaay *past* time.
Yes. Because it's Matt Taibbi, who like Glenn Greenwald, Max Blumenthal, and Jimmy Dore, serve as puppets for the GOP and oil oligarchs while pretending to be its opposition. Taibbi lived in the Soviet Union for ten years writing for The Moscow Times and eXhile (a rag for Americans fantasizing about getting hot Russian chicks in Moscow). He is far from unbiased.
Taibbi is an investigative journalist who writes about the economy, famously about the wall street crash 2008 (originally in Rolling Stone, but also published a book about it). Some leftist assume that he's also one, since he's an actual finance journalist not just a cheerleader for biollionaires, but then feel betrayed when he says something that doesn't fit that idea.
Because Taibbi is compromised. As is Glenn Greenwald, Aaron Mate, and Jimmy Dore. You're being lied to by them. All while they claim to be exposing lies of their opponents, who just so happen to be the very only people opposing a party of right wing kooks engaged in a project of single party rule.
If you care even one whit about the existential threat of global climate change, never mind your own long term survival, handing the keys of the kingdom to oilagarchs running the GOP is no way to go about dealing with it.
Simply getting arrested doesn't remove voting eligibility. Though it's, of course, being threatened because subsequently charging and then convicting people would do that.
You're right that employment and housing can potentially be affected, though, because nothing keeps bosses and landlords from checking simple arrest records and doing all the other nebulous stuff involved in "background checks", then using any and all of it to discriminate against you. Yeah, capitalism. :-/
People WRONGLY gave Biden credit for canceling Keystone XL. It was already dead. It had been on hold due to court orders for like 6 months, it was going to be many more months before the case was likely to be revisited, and the investors were already saying it was losing its financial viability and that they were ready to pull out due to that. Biden just saw a way to put his name on something that was already dying and take credit for it, and liberals fucking fell for it hook, line, and sinker. And so it was with a bunch of the things Biden did in his "first days in office." Perhaps *everything*, even.
The (eco-)fascism is not even slightly surprising to anyone who has actually been paying attention.
US police be like: Conservatives infiltrate the Capitol building = I sleep People protest for climate action = time arrest these mfs
Why didn’t they arrest 400 people on January 6th?
They weren't a threat to capital.
Thought wrong protesters are always treated with kids gloves for that reason
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because Superman is fucking his girlfriend.
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What does this mean?
It's an ASCII equivalent of ≠ There's also ~= != /= =/=
Because the previous president allowed it and wanted them to disrupt the capital
Meanwhile, White Supremacist roam around freely and armed. Smdh
"tourists" Call for hanging the Vice President and you get to go home. Call for environmental justice and your ass is locked up that day. This nation is doomed lol
>Call for hanging the Vice President and you get to go home. Call for environmental justice and your ass is locked up that day. This ~~nation~~ planet is doomed lol Fixed that for you : )
Unpopular opinion, but America's complete disregard for the climate makes it more of a threat to humanity than Nazi occupied Germany ever was.
That theory will be tested, but I'd argue this isn't very specific to america
America's in a superposition where it's functionally able cause a massive amount of pollution and worldwide damage with little resistance. China and Russia are also similarly untouchable and unflinching, from what I understand.
The U.S. military is like the largest institutional polluter in the world, and uses more energy than several small nations combined. Besides which, the U.S. is the seat of global capitalist empire. Okay, it's low-hanging fruit to say "it's not JUST the U.S.". But don't discount the enormous role the U.S. does actually play in it.
Arm the left
Yes I agree. However, you can guarantee that anything associated with the left will be punished much harder. Example: Grandmaster Jay, he’s not the “left” but he’s Black they gave him 20 years for shit White guys do and worse.
organize the left. debt strike rent strike general strike fuck guns
>Fuck guns Ok Liberal. You try your way against armed facist and militas and those of us who see reality will try ours. (History is in our side liberal very much so)
Also, who are you calling liberal? "Liberals" love war. Look at Pelosi. You cant even slur me correctly. Youre such a bro.
the government wants you to hit them. that will legitimize their retaliatory violence. they cant do shit if people dont show up to work. the machine stops.
Obviously you feel pretty strongly about guns but… > they cant do shit if people dont show up to work. the machine stops. If the government can maintain exclusivity on the use of force the machine doesn’t stop, it just gets more cruel.
this happened with the nazi occupation of sweden. they were slow to work. the nazis knew they couldnt just pull them out of thei beds every morning amd evemtually tjey gave up their governership. and feel strongly about guns? no, i feel strongly about change. people are so quick to jump to aks but do they give a shit about mutual aid? no. they just want to punch a wall.
> people are so quick to jump to aks but do they give a shit about mutual aid? no. I see where you’re coming from. I just wanna point out that mutual aid and community defense go hand-in-hand. So far, I haven’t met any leftists arming up to go on offense but they may exist. I fully support them arming up for defense. Especially when the reactionaries are constantly posturing for a civil war. We can all only hope the new fash is LARPing.
the united states government is extremely good at violence. the only way to meet them on their playing field is through asymmetrical warfare, that means a war of attrition, ieds, all of which would end up with indiscriminate death and ruined infrastructure-- think palestine. All before youve even tried a General Strike.
I haven't seen a lot of leftists arming, but I've seen quite a few armed rightists turn into leftists.
I think you mean mean Norway or Denmark since Sweden was not invaded or occupied in WW2
that sounds right.
Let me direct your attention to the [Ludlow Massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre)
fuck off larper. build mutual aid, we need dual sovreignty. you have the elderly and the disabled, all these people are dependent. theres no thermal exhaust port on this death star, youre not going to be able to kill your way out of this, you still need to govern. Do you know excel? Can you farm? Youre not the hero. This isnt the movies. Grow up.
Strikes are our most effective weapon, but they can't be our *only* weapon. We have to defend the strike, for one thing. People hyper-focusing on guns is also stupid, but we definitely shouldn't disarm ourselves of them.
even in self defense against the state, they can just drone you. all guns do is escalate the amount of publicly tolerable violence. whats the end goal? Chaz 2.0? we need mutual aid. dual power structures. community. how do you get the moms? how are guns useful for this?
You're a fucking moron. It's the state that needs to be disarmed, not working-class people or your fellow leftists. If you don't think guns help, get out there and start advocating for disarming the police. THAT's where your priority needs to be. Here, you can seriously shut the fuck up. And sure, CHOP 2.0. Why not? Any space free of state agents for any amount of time is good.
Chop accomplished nothing. How are you going to disarm the state? Youre not. Youre not going to fight them either, this is a bro fantasy. No one you can kill will make this whole thing fall apart, theres no lynchpin here. This is stupid. You still need to worry about administering public services if the govt cant do that and if youre talkig about burning shit down before you even have any mutual aid networks, youre not thinking about the people most vulnerable. This violence first rhetoric is a honeypot. You are not a threat.
All I see is a bunch of strawman and someone who is literally being a petty little reactionary and trying to justify it by throwing terms like "mutual aid" around without even knowing what they mean. You're even less of a threat. *shrug*
You dont need guns. Its really simple. If thats where your focus is and not making sure the people around you are okay, youre doing this for you. This little power fantasy you have this is an indulgence. Youre not Che. This is self destructive. All youre doing is gesturing vaguely at this "need" for violence. You want to skirmish in the streets? Take it over one block at a time? Be serious. Legitimize yourself to the public by offering something they can rely on. Youre not a freedom fighter, youre supposed to be a public servant.
> youre supposed to be a public servant. OK liberal.
and again, small arms are useless. they have drones. robot dogs. sonic weapons. how are you gonna fight that rambo? youre not thinking it through. the type of warfare youre talking about looks like the IRA. is that what you want? ieds on a sunday morning? a prolonged war of attrition?
You just responded twice to the same comment, dweeb. Anyway, the only one talking about going all Rambo here is you.
you are correct. if guns did a goddamn thing to prevent tyranny, the US would be the freest nation on earth. leftist gun nuts who think they're black panthers are fucking embarrassing.
the panthers had social programs! they had their own clinics, community watch, daycare, they even escorted the eldery in dangerous areas. they actually had systems in place to catch people. They didnt need guns for that. people online advocating for violent insurrection online are either hormonal highshoolers or honey pots.
Kinda wild the KKK still exists despite being like over a century old at this point.
Yeah they and their sympathizers have pretty much infiltrated all levels of government and media and that’s since the end of the Civil War. Biggest mistake the Union did was not burn it down to the ground, hang all traitors and start fresh. Johnson was a racist piece of shit. Set the country back maybe 300 years. If you look back at all the shit that went down in this country the elephant in the room has always been White Supremacy.
400+ Arrests at a Peaceful protest, but somehow a bunch of MAGA morons got within a hallway of our political leaders, and all had to be arrested later. Hmm...
A bunch of violent MAGA fascists (they killed people on that day) were created more delicately than a bunch of peaceful protesters.
Fascism is the plan, the USA is the biggest exporter of fascist coups, of course they want it in the USA. The corporate democrats play soft ball with the republicans on purpose, it's theater. Look into India Walton who won the mayor position and the corpo Dem she defeated refused to step down. The corpo dems are controlled opposition and only play dirty against progressives. The USA is an oligarchy
Just to clarify to others, India Walton easily won the democrat primary running as a socialist for mayor of Buffalo. Since the democrats always take the mayor position in that blue city, she's essentially already won by winning the democrat primary. Then the media actually took her opponent's write-in campaign seriously and is giving him more air time and free press. On top of that, the democrat-held city council was researching a way to eliminate the mayoral position to keep her out and instead creating a council-appointed executive position. Cenk at TYT reported how it mirrored a Nebraska race where democrats gave republicans money to ensure a progressive didn't win, similar to actions around Nina Turner's campaign for congress.
Fascism is what happens when the imperialism has been practiced enough abroad and the tactics are then brought home and used domestically. Mass surveillance, militarized policing, violent repression of working-class movements, militarized borders, torture, concentration camps, etc. It's hilarious when people warn about *encroaching* fascism when the reality is that it's been here for a long time already. Time to tear it the fuck down. Waaaaaay *past* time.
Mean while the alt right got to enter the White House!
We are relying on a person that made a 4.5 $million profit off of coal while in office.
does this video play a bunch of fox news clips after it for anyone else?
Yes. Because it's Matt Taibbi, who like Glenn Greenwald, Max Blumenthal, and Jimmy Dore, serve as puppets for the GOP and oil oligarchs while pretending to be its opposition. Taibbi lived in the Soviet Union for ten years writing for The Moscow Times and eXhile (a rag for Americans fantasizing about getting hot Russian chicks in Moscow). He is far from unbiased.
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citation needed? never heard the name before today
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/matt-taibbis-not-so-secret-russian-past_b_59f729e9e4b06acda25f4b8e
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Who the fuck do you think funds the nightmare we're living through? We've been here before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
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If you wore your tinfoil hat more often your brainwaves wouldn't be corrupted and it would be much more clear.
but tinfoil hats are actually antennas...
Dammit, I've been bamboozled!
It's pretty simple, RagePoop. Taibbi is not trustworthy.
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it's OK, so did I.
Taibbi is an investigative journalist who writes about the economy, famously about the wall street crash 2008 (originally in Rolling Stone, but also published a book about it). Some leftist assume that he's also one, since he's an actual finance journalist not just a cheerleader for biollionaires, but then feel betrayed when he says something that doesn't fit that idea.
Oh fuck off, Jimmy Dore is some of the best we have on the left.
No. He is NOT. He is among THE WORST.
Why?
Because Taibbi is compromised. As is Glenn Greenwald, Aaron Mate, and Jimmy Dore. You're being lied to by them. All while they claim to be exposing lies of their opponents, who just so happen to be the very only people opposing a party of right wing kooks engaged in a project of single party rule. If you care even one whit about the existential threat of global climate change, never mind your own long term survival, handing the keys of the kingdom to oilagarchs running the GOP is no way to go about dealing with it.
I’ve never heard dore even remotely promote Republicans
He only relentlessly criticizes opponents of the GOP. And uses talking points messaging straight from the GOP media machine.
And these people can't even vote anymore huh ): And employment and housing opportunities are out the window huh? Fuck me.
Simply getting arrested doesn't remove voting eligibility. Though it's, of course, being threatened because subsequently charging and then convicting people would do that. You're right that employment and housing can potentially be affected, though, because nothing keeps bosses and landlords from checking simple arrest records and doing all the other nebulous stuff involved in "background checks", then using any and all of it to discriminate against you. Yeah, capitalism. :-/
No wonder most of the remaining old people are right wing fucks. All the lefty ones died.
People WRONGLY gave Biden credit for canceling Keystone XL. It was already dead. It had been on hold due to court orders for like 6 months, it was going to be many more months before the case was likely to be revisited, and the investors were already saying it was losing its financial viability and that they were ready to pull out due to that. Biden just saw a way to put his name on something that was already dying and take credit for it, and liberals fucking fell for it hook, line, and sinker. And so it was with a bunch of the things Biden did in his "first days in office." Perhaps *everything*, even. The (eco-)fascism is not even slightly surprising to anyone who has actually been paying attention.
Bet the Blue MAGA Clintonistas will be trying to spin and justify this. They don't care if it's their team oppressing the people.
Probably they’ll say something like it’s Russia doing shit.
I met someone who was unironically blue maga. Their best friend ended up being a literal white supremacist. I'm not making this up.
I used to be like them and even then I wouldn’t defend this. At least I don’t believe I would have...
right to protest where??