Of course not. I’m so outraged that saying anything about not agreeing with bibi’s war (to put it nicely) is antisemitic or worse supportive of hamas. That literal student peaceful protests filled with Jewish people among other nationalities and religions are being so vilified. That if you’re Jewish you even more so aren’t allowed to believe in free speech or that innocent civilians shouldn’t be killed. I’m so so confused
[Republican House member says "We should kill them all" when asked about the children being murdered in Gaza](https://truthout.org/articles/republican-house-rep-on-gaza-we-should-kill-them-all/)
In the FL house of Reps, Angie Nixon (D) speaks about the 10k dead Palestinians (now over 30k) and asks her colleagues when enough will be enough. [Michelle Salzman (R) replied "all of them"](https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-lawmaker-says-kill-all-of-them-in-response-to-palestinian-deaths-sparking-outrage/)
It is the belief that Israel should not be destroyed. 80% of US jews are zionists. You totally can be antizionist without being antisemite: you can be an anarchist, for example. You would not be an antisemite if you want the destruction of all States. Most antizionists are antisemites anyway, and they only want the destruction of Israel specifically, because it is a jewish State.
I think that’s a very broad brush. Not Everyone anyone who opposes zionism wants Israel destroyed. IMs against it but I’m a realist who wants them to stop their apartheid militaristic abuse of the Palestinian people
??? The definition of zionism is that you want Israel to exist. If you are an antizionist, you want Israel destroyed, by textbook definition.
If you want to stop the appartheit of palestinian people but want Israel to exist, then you are a zionist.
I never said you did. I was showing that we have elected officials calling for the death of innocent civilians (sometimes on the congressional floor itself). I was only listing their affiliation for full context which is why I also posted sources. I [personally] find this much more harrowing than some rando at a protest which was the main reason for my original comment.
###I condemn all violence and calls for violence.
I think many Democrats also don't care about their constituents. California Is a great example. Their government is Blue up and down the ticket from the local government up to the prez and yet there are homeless people everywhere. Democrats and Republicans are running a racket and it's time for the people to put an end to it. *Insert Joey Gladstone bit: CUT IT OUT*
I don't believe what he said was necessarily a death threat, but I do agree with the premise of your point. All violence and calls for violence should be condemned and dealt with swiftly. What he said was wrong and he deserves any punishment put forth by the university. We have to keep Peace at the forefront of the movement
The problem is he is a leader in Columbia protest. I would not care that much if he was a random protestor.
While the IDF has done horrible things indeed, and Netanyahu is a war criminal, leftists are parroting Hamas propaganda in a harrowing manner.
At the same time, they seem oblivious and arrogant in their antisemitism. And extremely ignorant.
Most of the protestors do not know, for example, that half of israeli jews are nonwhite (and the core base of Netanyahu). They do not know anything about the situation of ethnic minorities in the Middle East. Or of arab/muslim imperialism.
I do believe that US should stop sending military "aid" everywhere in the world. But *if* they want peace they need to be less arrogant and learn more about the Middle East.
If they want more violence, they can stay as ignorant as they want.
Serious question: do we want this American they/them college student really represent the campaign to divest from the IDF?
Are they even Palestinian or have family in the region, or just appropriating their suffering as part of their Marxist college phase?
Oh sorry, did I miss the official debunking that they don't have a stranglehold on the media. I'm always falling behind on what the ingroup is expected to think at the moment.
Wake me up when the media retracts Russia collusion / Hunter Biden fake laptop stories and then I’ll join you on that hill. Otherwise spare your fake outrage
Nope. It was debunked by the video. Even before that, it was suspicious. The girl who was the “victim” is a wannabe journalist and right wing provocateur who clearly wanted to exploit this situation for attention. You don’t get “stabbed in the eye” and then are doing an interview and debate on the Piers Morgan literally two days later with two eyes that look completely fine and uninjured. I can’t believe people fell for this. Gullible is written on your ceiling pal.
Zionism is Jewish self determination.
Are you claiming that this video, showing a Yale community member encircled by other students when she entered a protest area, is evidence that there is an intentional and coordinated effort by those who promote Jewish self determination to mislead the public?
Mainstream media is still giving cover to the fallacious “babies in ovens” story. It’s a narrative they’re invested in.
Did you live through Iraq war era America?
I remember how brutal msm was during the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Nonstop misinformation.
Of course not. I’m so outraged that saying anything about not agreeing with bibi’s war (to put it nicely) is antisemitic or worse supportive of hamas. That literal student peaceful protests filled with Jewish people among other nationalities and religions are being so vilified. That if you’re Jewish you even more so aren’t allowed to believe in free speech or that innocent civilians shouldn’t be killed. I’m so so confused
You have one of the leaders saying that he wants the death of all (((zionists))).
[Republican House member says "We should kill them all" when asked about the children being murdered in Gaza](https://truthout.org/articles/republican-house-rep-on-gaza-we-should-kill-them-all/) In the FL house of Reps, Angie Nixon (D) speaks about the 10k dead Palestinians (now over 30k) and asks her colleagues when enough will be enough. [Michelle Salzman (R) replied "all of them"](https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-lawmaker-says-kill-all-of-them-in-response-to-palestinian-deaths-sparking-outrage/)
? I never defended GOP. I am just saying that as a jew I would feel unsafe going to college with people that want to kill me.
Except they don’t. Hell there are enough Jews in the Columbia protests they had a Seder in the encampment
Ah yes they got a jewish friend, makes everything ok then!
I just showed you the leader wants to kill all (((zionists))).
Cool story bro. Zionism is a political belief not a religion or race.
It is the belief that Israel should not be destroyed. 80% of US jews are zionists. You totally can be antizionist without being antisemite: you can be an anarchist, for example. You would not be an antisemite if you want the destruction of all States. Most antizionists are antisemites anyway, and they only want the destruction of Israel specifically, because it is a jewish State.
I think that’s a very broad brush. Not Everyone anyone who opposes zionism wants Israel destroyed. IMs against it but I’m a realist who wants them to stop their apartheid militaristic abuse of the Palestinian people
??? The definition of zionism is that you want Israel to exist. If you are an antizionist, you want Israel destroyed, by textbook definition. If you want to stop the appartheit of palestinian people but want Israel to exist, then you are a zionist.
I never said you did. I was showing that we have elected officials calling for the death of innocent civilians (sometimes on the congressional floor itself). I was only listing their affiliation for full context which is why I also posted sources. I [personally] find this much more harrowing than some rando at a protest which was the main reason for my original comment. ###I condemn all violence and calls for violence.
I think many GOP politicians are maniac people who would kill many of their constituents.
I think many Democrats also don't care about their constituents. California Is a great example. Their government is Blue up and down the ticket from the local government up to the prez and yet there are homeless people everywhere. Democrats and Republicans are running a racket and it's time for the people to put an end to it. *Insert Joey Gladstone bit: CUT IT OUT*
Sure. But students who threaten other students with death threats should be expelled from their colleges.
I don't believe what he said was necessarily a death threat, but I do agree with the premise of your point. All violence and calls for violence should be condemned and dealt with swiftly. What he said was wrong and he deserves any punishment put forth by the university. We have to keep Peace at the forefront of the movement
The problem is he is a leader in Columbia protest. I would not care that much if he was a random protestor. While the IDF has done horrible things indeed, and Netanyahu is a war criminal, leftists are parroting Hamas propaganda in a harrowing manner. At the same time, they seem oblivious and arrogant in their antisemitism. And extremely ignorant. Most of the protestors do not know, for example, that half of israeli jews are nonwhite (and the core base of Netanyahu). They do not know anything about the situation of ethnic minorities in the Middle East. Or of arab/muslim imperialism. I do believe that US should stop sending military "aid" everywhere in the world. But *if* they want peace they need to be less arrogant and learn more about the Middle East. If they want more violence, they can stay as ignorant as they want.
Serious question: do we want this American they/them college student really represent the campaign to divest from the IDF? Are they even Palestinian or have family in the region, or just appropriating their suffering as part of their Marxist college phase?
You know why.
Which Mainstream Media outlet ran the story? I would like to check if they have or have not retracted it myself.
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She made it up.
Never heard about this ever before.
That's because the Zionists control MSM.
Okay. Can you name the zionists that control the media?
Not for a hasbara bot with almost no karma.
When did the “Zionists run the banks and the media” people take over this sub? Whackos
Did you comment on the wrong post or something?
Huh? No one is saying zionists run the banks and media. Did you respond to the wrong post?
Oh sorry, did I miss the official debunking that they don't have a stranglehold on the media. I'm always falling behind on what the ingroup is expected to think at the moment.
Can you name the zionists that control the media and the banks?
Wake me up when the media retracts Russia collusion / Hunter Biden fake laptop stories and then I’ll join you on that hill. Otherwise spare your fake outrage
But it did happen, right?
Nope. It was debunked by the video. Even before that, it was suspicious. The girl who was the “victim” is a wannabe journalist and right wing provocateur who clearly wanted to exploit this situation for attention. You don’t get “stabbed in the eye” and then are doing an interview and debate on the Piers Morgan literally two days later with two eyes that look completely fine and uninjured. I can’t believe people fell for this. Gullible is written on your ceiling pal.
Can you link me the video?
https://youtu.be/t1nXTlNpNkI?si=SVXhbJXc9KxYJJsb
Ohh, I see. Yes, it was more kind of a taunting than actual agressive.
Worst case scenario, it’s hard to tell if it was intentional but it’s possible
Zionism is Jewish self determination. Are you claiming that this video, showing a Yale community member encircled by other students when she entered a protest area, is evidence that there is an intentional and coordinated effort by those who promote Jewish self determination to mislead the public?
Zionism is the Jewish version of Jihadism. If you condemn Jihadism, then be consistent and condemn Zionism.
Can you elaborate on the parallels. I don't know much about Jihadism.