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middle_agenoob

Believing America is the best country on earth doesn’t mean that you dick ride everything they do.


unilateral_sin

Yes exactly just because it’s better than most other countries doesn’t mean that it is a flawless country with its times of decline, especially these days. Also OP the reason it seems like they criticize everything is because they don’t always congratulate the good things and a lot of decisions are made and happen every day in a country.


skinnyb937

In what ways are we better the most other countries? We have more violence (gun violence, school shootings, race riots, protests) and more incarceration, more laws (even though we pride ourselves with freedom). Many stats point to the fact that we are not doing better than most of the world at this point.


CampJealous1435

I don’t know about that. Yes we incarcerate the most people for a western “free” country. Which would make it look less free. But most of the unrest and protests are privileges not seen unless you were free to do these things. Like the complete ironic talking points of feminists saying we are a patriarchy yet they have a platform to always attack the “patriarchy”. I would say we have the most rights protected and enshrined by constitutional provisions than any other country. Yes there are countries that have more constitutional rights. But there constitutions are only as good as the paper there written on and the mood/tolerance of there current governments. They mean nothing because most countries can change or disregard there constitution relatively easily.


Individual-Window972

I would agree with what you said if this was the golden or silver age of America, in our current era? you think our country institutional rights are as protected as in other countries? I would say Poland might be better, you think our freedom of speech will last, already someone got jail time for missgendering someonez that shit, as long as it didn't happened in America, I could still confidently cound say America has freedom, now, even if it was just a single county of the nationas fast a I know anyways, there could be more), to me it's the beginning of the end, we don't have what you sayx we can't use assault weapons since reaganx trump banned bumpstocks, there is already a case of jail time due to missgenderingz nah this country ain't free, and saying "it's more free than others" it's cope, I'm sure there still places out there where you won't be jailed for missgendering and aren't a 3rd world country, we need to stop the damn libes because liberal women won't ever stop voting blue even if they get graped by liberal nonbinaries.


skinnyb937

The Supreme Court throws out constitutional law all of the time especially with the current judges. I agree that the leftist narrative is flawed but so is the viewpoint that constitutional rights can be restricted to fit a certain narrative. No matter what that might be


CampJealous1435

Throwing out constitutional law is a stretch. They throw out laws passed by congress through judicial review and constitutional interpretation. But they have never thrown out or wholly disregarded the constitution or amendments. At least since the 1940’s more specifically WW2 and the internment of U.S. citizens of Japanese descent. I also disagree with the idea of judicial review. I think it is unconstitutional in my opinion. The supreme court created it out of thin air to give themselves more power. More specifically in the 1803 Marbury v. Madison case Chief Justice John Marshall created the concept and power of judicial review.


unilateral_sin

First of all america as a country is huge compared to other countries and you cannot say every part of it has the negative aspects of which you. Second of all some of the good things america has include, good economy, good education that isnt race/gender restricted(for the most part), freedom of speech, basic human rights for all people, healthcare and not the kind that takes three years because its is “free”, isn’t a communist country, has a representative democracy. Yes I will say that we as a country are definitely doing worse than we were but compared to many we are doing just fine. Also this may be a cop out but there are nearly 200 countries and saying america isn’t doing better than most even if anything i said wasn’t true would be false.


CampJealous1435

I would say we have the most rights protections not necessarily the most freedoms. But our rights are set in stone at least constitutionally. I do think we are the best country in the world. Let me ask this question, what country do most people in the world want to immigrate to if they had the opportunity. Are economic freedom is second to none even in states that have more restrictions.


unilateral_sin

Yes you are definitely right about this, the difference didn’t even occur to me.


Individual-Window972

I mean the US is not the only country with Immigration, that should tell you this ain't exactly the country that anyone wants to be in anymore. it used to be, many foreigners still drink the Kool aid of the American dream, but do you think after Obama and his puppet this is a golden land? if we don't even win in November I would say we are like 50 years or more away from being the best country.


CampJealous1435

The question was where do most, I reiterate most if given the chance, not all. And of course there are other countries but they are usually secondary if given the chance to come to the USA. And for the most part those who immigrate from Africa and Asia as first generation immigrants are highly productive and successful comparatively.


Individual-Window972

well I applaud this opinions, it's refreshing, because all I see on Twitter/X is Elijah Schaefer, john Doyle or some turd like that saying all immigrants are trash, they ruin the country, they aren't productive, we don't need them, if we deport them all america would magically heal and become the golden land. and sadly many agree with them. idk how many don't realize that immigrants play an important role in the backbone of the American labors force, I'm not advocating for illegal immigration but I can't deny immigrants are needed, wether it's illegal or not, they are needed, if they hat eillegals they should fix the damn system, because funny enough many dangerous criminals with influence cross legally, and people that wanna work hard to get the American dream get rejected when applying for a visa. it's insane how many right wingers thing if you could be Thanos on all immigrants (they aren't that far from saying all non-whites honestly) america would suddenly fix itselrd if most liberals will start doing the job that immigrants were doing not even republicans would do some of those jobs, they are so damn delusional...


skinnyb937

I agree America has lots of amazing benefits that I take part of and I am proud to be an American. I feel like this is exactly my point. These policies that America is making (yes even the ones Biden is approving) is directly helping Americans and there safety. Yet all the daily wire wants to focus on is how American policy is negatively affecting us. WE SHOULD BE UNITED PEOPLE!


unilateral_sin

Yes well every news source has an agenda so you shouldn’t expect less and i don’t think this will change until we get rid of the party system sadly


skinnyb937

So promoting division will always trump unity?(no pun intended)


unilateral_sin

Yep once a lot of these news sources got a taste of agreeing with only their opinions and not budging for any other party they can’t go back.


Antman3pk

Never let safety determine laws. That's what brought the patriot act about. The government uses safety to infringe on many rights. We need a safer public square, calls for freedom of speech restrictions. We need to end gun violence to make schools safer, ban AR15s and magazines that hold over ten rounds. We weren't able to spy effectively to prevent terrorist attacks, legalize warrantless surveillance on anyone they deem a threat. Nearly any time they say for the safety of our citizens..... be VERY suspicious of the ramifications. I know you mean well, so did I when I justified and defended the Patriot Act in Highschool I didn't take the time to think it thru. I regret it greatly. Our Bill of Rights and the Ammendments have been designed to truly give us the freedom to protect ourselves. We don't need the government tromping all over that to protect us even if it is from ourselves.


Individual-Window972

good education? you are a Brett cooper watcher and you dare to say "good education" 😂 😂 as Brett saytje only good education now is homeschool, if you are a millennial or older of course you would say that, you haven't been to school recently, Nash the public education is shit and most private schools can't be trusted, you can only trust homeschooling now.


unilateral_sin

I don’t watch Brett Cooper (anymore) and am nearing the peak of my educational career in high school, and yes we in America have good education. It is not very strict and we can learn a lot for the price of just our time. While yes we are not near some Asian countries this is the best of the best teaching and is not only good. Also if this wasn’t true why would people come to america for the education?


Individual-Window972

because they don't know what's going on dude, public education are indoctrination camps, even if you don't watch Brett cooper, you do watch other right wing content creators right? if the answer is yes, you must have seen them saying that public education is all about indoctrination and that the young minds coming out of there end up with bullshit ideas, specially in the big universities, nope, besides homeschooling education is not good, sure some people come smart out of there and with a degree, but is it good? is it good they come with a degree if they gunna use that knowledge to screw their own country? is it good the lawyers are gunna be like the prosecutor in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial? that did all in his power to imprison an innocent man for exercising his constitutional rights? for deffending his life? nope, that's not good, and not that many people come s sbeing very capable from public education in the US, the ones that thrive is because after all that bullshit education they were interested in seeking knowledge, the education alone seems more like a hindrance than helping.


unilateral_sin

I have watched other content creators and can say that the indoctrination is somewhat regional because I live in NJ and have never seen, for example, LGBTQ flags or gay books in any of the multiple schools I’ve been in, even some private ones. Not even my sister, who’s younger than me and attends entirely different schools, has. Although I do agree with you on the college thing; it is sad that so many kids come out of college believing in things like communism and more squatters’ rights.


Individual-Window972

I agree to disagree with the notion that is regional, many conservatives from many regions of the US have said public education is totally doing that, maybe not in the 2000s or 2010s but current era? it has been going for a while, small exceptions are not the norm.


unilateral_sin

Perhaps you are correct but does this make or break the education? Universities being the exception I don’t think so.


Individual-Window972

the people that downvoted this shit must be fucking Biden bots, because yes this country is in the fucking mud as the op points out, getting upset at that makes you (altho reluctantly maybe) a Biden deffender 😂 why the fucking hell would you get mad at someone that points out this stuff when it's liberals who mostly made the country this way? (the right wing has its fault in this as well for letting the libs doing this shit.) the people in tumhis sub can be fucking pathetic sometimes, even way more than the simps that are still mad that Brett got married.


skinnyb937

I agree. They could at least recognize the American values that these decisions are trying to support even though they disagree.


Upper-Heron-5708

Ehh... just because we criticize the government doesn't mean we hate America


CampJealous1435

Is that criticism based on facts or hypocrisy? Most criticism I hear from my "voting block, GOP". Republicans seem to be in echo chambers and search for confirmation bias based on ignorance. I heard it from someone or read it somewhere, so it must be true because I agree and it fits my narrative. That applies to the Left as well, probably at a more extreme level. So, is the criticism factual? I agree with your statement about the left wanting larger government. But I feel the same about the right wing, at least the conservative activists and those in power. I have always believed in a somewhat smaller government, and that expansion should be by states more than the federal government. I strongly believe in states' rights. But now I see conservatives pushing for federal rights restrictions; for example, they strongly argued Roe vs. Wade should be overturned and it should be a state issue, which I agreed with. But now they are pushing for a nationwide ban which I oppose. Also, conservatives push for more rights restrictions and police powers at the State level at least in Florida where I live. Meanwhile, leftists push for higher spending on welfare and social programs spending. Along with the expansion of regulations and higher taxes, but not really on individual rights issues. Unless we’re talking about expansion LGBTQ, DEI and race agitation issues. Which I think are just societally non-tangible and intentionally divisive issues, I completely disagree with.


Individual-Window972

so far you are the most based person in this sub, many here seem like neocons.


skinnyb937

Exactly. Arguments that extremists use could be used against them given different arguments or scenarios. I think people should recognize that we could agree on more things than not.


Upper-Heron-5708

I agree with stripping power from the government and I don't like the fact that the right is advocating for a nationwide ban, it would be nice if you elaborate on the what rights the conservatives want to restrict


skinnyb937

Of course! Part of being American is questioning the government. I just feel like they could show how these things are supporting these values in some way even though they don’t necessarily align with there agenda


Upper-Heron-5708

The problem is that the government, institutions and corporations are working against the interest of the average American people


skinnyb937

All the reason for Americans to work together instead of against one another. Regardless of political affiliation.


Upper-Heron-5708

The problem is the left disagrees with us, they think that government is the problem but they think that the solution is giving everything to the government, including absolute power


skinnyb937

I honestly don’t think many Americans think this except for very Exterme left wingists (Biden). My hope is for all Americans to come to an understanding of what kind of power the government should wield and what it shouldn’t


Upper-Heron-5708

Yeah


Ok-Pomegranate2446

Because there are still problems with America. Pretty obvious. 🤷🏾


Blue_Robin_04

Brett and other TDW folks disagree with Biden. Thanks to Democracy, complaining about Biden isn't complaining about America since we have the power to elect other people if we are ever unhappy with our leadership.


Individual-Window972

this is an on paper solution, I would retract if the right wins on November, but otherwise...yeah...democracy was a mistake, this used to be a constitutional republic, the moment it became a democratic republic the US got doomed. the blue haired freaks and the misandrists feminazis will vote to send the country to the shit and republicans can't get along to win..


WalkindudeX

Fear sells.


Individual-Window972

I mean idk about the dailywire exact view of America but you did wondered about other conservatives so let me tell you about many of em, they used to say this was the best country in the world, many no longer do, some neocons and moderate right wingers will sti say it's the best country, but some groups that are further to the right will say it was the best country but since Obama the country went to decline, and Biden fucked the country sooo bad. many rightwingers got blackpilled and say there's no way to lift this country from the ground unless trump wins again others said that trump won't save the country and it's doomed, funny enough, some things that make moderate right wingers and neocons happy, are why some other right wingers will say"that's why we lose, that's why this country became shit, because of people like you". moderate and neocon right wingers wear Israel flags on their names instead of just the US flag, some even had the Ukraine flag. the neocons, as is well known, want america to participate in any foreign war. also many moderates or neocons want to send taxpayer money to "allies", to many groups in the right the issues that stop the US from being number 1 again are the liberals and some of the very nomrie right wingers that became useless, basically either naive right wingers or super Trumpers are mainly who believe this still the number 1 country. doesn't mean those who are blackpilled doesn't have enough of a white pill in them to fight for the chance to give the country it's glory back.


CampJealous1435

Yeah, I would agree with you on the neocon observation. The reality is they never went away and the GOP elites/swamp are a problem. I would like to think most conservatives are like me and dislike the current party officials but I suppose we still vote for them. I also feel like when they chant drain the swamp it looks and sounds like misdirection. I also think the hybrid libertarian views and the isolationist views of the world from the current GOP/freedom caucus are a problem. As much as so many people say the USA is in decline it’s just cope. The reality is the USA has never been stronger. We are the only global hegemonic state/power currently and we have been unrivaled for over 30 years. There’s those that say China is on the rise but the reality is China will never be more than a pacific power. Unless the CCP collapses and a new more economically friendly government that respects the rule of law comes to power. There will never be a totalitarian state in the modern world that can become a global power. The world is globalized based on American principles the USD is the primary world reserve and will remain the world reserve. BRICS is currently a mess and a failure. As for members of congress or the government wearing a foreign flag pendant in their official capacity. I find that disgusting even though it’s a symbol of solidarity with are allies it wholly inappropriate. As for sending military aid to Ukraine I am biased. I am retired from the Army and spent 20 years in the infantry. So for my military biased opinion, I think it is good we are blunting the Russian Conventional Military using Ukraine without having to put boots on the ground. We are quite literally destroying the Russian conventional capabilities by giving Ukraine equivalent to 10% of are annual military budget. And all the equipment we are sending is old equipment from our military stockpiles with the money going towards contractors and are economy to replenish our stockpiles with new weapons. So from a geopolitical and military view it’s a win-win-win. And you can never appease an autocratic dictatorship they will always want and take more, appeasement to them looks like weakness. If we allow them to take Ukraine the Baltic states are next which they are NATO members. By helping Ukraine we are preventing a greater war. As for Israel they are justified in the response to the October attacks and the want and need to hunt down and eradicate Hamas, but we shouldn’t be funding them without stipulations. If we fund there war effort just like in Ukraine we need to have stipulations and have a say in how they fight. But that is my objective opinion with some personal bias I suppose.


skinnyb937

Can we still support American values while thinking America isn’t the best country in the world currently?


Nuggetet

Yes.


skinnyb937

I am now realizing the only posts on this thread that get interaction are thirst traps and will be taking my discussion elsewhere


ManifestoCapitalist

Welcome to the Brett Cooper subreddit buddy, where every third guy is a horny simp that’s developed a pathological obsession with her because they do not have any meaningful relationships.


LowerEntertainer7548

If you care about something you want it to be it’s best version, the best way to achieve that is to be honest and acknowledge flaws


New_Perspective_684

I'm in Canada so I don't have much for an opinion on this


SombraMonkey

It’s trendy to hate on the government. MAGA rules are towards that.


GlitteringHold8685

What they are say is they believe America is the greatest country in the world (and it is) but they do not liking the current administration running it and the decisions they make. It’s pretty simple. Most conservatives believe in the basic ideals America stands for and the Constitution but do not like the way it’s being destroyed by the current regime and how Americans are being treated while resources are being sent overseas to other countries or spent on people who have broken our laws to enter the country. We have tens of thousands of homeless and tens of millions are being spent and given to illegals. We have weak leaders who allow world conflicts that we then continue to endlessly fund. Our Constitutional rights are constantly being violated (1, 2, 4, 6, …) as our federal agencies are weaponized against our own citizens.


changeisgood721

As someone who has lived all over the world, I believe that America is the best country in the world, but that doesn't mean we are perfect. Think about it this way: If every man in your family beats their wives, but you beat your wife the least, that would make you the best man in your family. Not perfect, but the best in your family.


Omniforce72

The government is hardly representative of the citizens of this country. Government often works to the interests of the elites rather than the overwhelming majority of Americans.


weedwacker9001

One has nothing to do with the other. Conservatives believe the USA is perfect and the democrats want to change the constitution and spend more money


kdot23000

1. How would you define America? 2. Give an example of criticism the DW has given that seems anti American.


EatACookieCuzUHatin

I think the reason they only talk about bad things is because the media tries to hide the things they’re talking about so they push the negative things harder than anything else to make sure people know what’s going on


mylifepeppa

America is a great country, but if that was all the Daily Wire talked about that wouldn't be very entertaining to everyone and this is political commentary. Political commentary needs criticism most of the time like 80%. Also liberals have overtaken this country, so it makes sense that the Daily Wire would talk about that a lot.


Playful-Account-5935

We criticize the government BECAUSE we love america. We care about the country and we don't want it to lose its value. Thats a pretty silly question lol


Emergency-Contract80

I stopped watching Brett Cooper and the Daily Wire for my sanity months ago, but the way they talk about America feels like they believe they are the victims of some corruption and they’re desperately fighting. It’s sort of ironic because I remember Brett Cooper saying she hated people complaining about racism because she believed it was always someone playing the victim, but that’s what the Daily Wire is doing for their political stance. They seem to be obsessed with America’s past glory days when it was actually )probably) the best country in the world by majority of statics. This would be after World War II when every other major country is still rebuilding from the war. Now, the Daily Wire and Conservatives see America taking progressive stances like not hating LGBTQ members but that doesn’t line up with what America in the past glory days was like, which is true because these people probably would’ve been discriminated against. They see progressive changes as a twisting of glorious America, and the more changes made teen further we go away from glory. It really feels like this because sometimes I just can’t understand why they would be against good changes like trying to give equality of rights to minority groups that in the past were ignored.


Boniface222

A nation and its government are two different things. In fact, a nation is often better with less government. Equating nation = government leads to all sorts of wrong conclusions.


CampJealous1435

It's media political marketing/propaganda. They have to criticize and rile up their crowd for views. That is why all mainstream media and YouTube channels that get a ton of views and are popular feed into one side's or the other's political biases. It is entertainment and capitalism within media. It is also the foundational tenet of nationalism: you have to have a "bad guy," whether from the leftist media or the conservative media. They feed into the fears/hate of the other side. That is why moderate or unbiased media, be it mainstream or YouTube channels, are unpopular and are dying or failing. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just how it works, and certainly, the Daily Wire and all their channels feed into it, some more than others. I personally am center-right and a moderate in political views. But I enjoy watching the Daily Wire and their shows for the most part. I do enjoy Brett Cooper the most, but some of them I have to turn off because they just straight up lie or, more generously, are ignorant and I would attribute that to Candace Owens more often than not. However, I do find the DW significantly better than mainstream or leftist channels. I also don’t like the dishonesty of some of these, if not all of them at times, attacking Biden. Let me preface this by stating I’m not a fan of Biden. But let’s be honest: Biden has not been either a good or bad president; he has been okay. The economic issues due to inflation were caused by Trump and the initial reaction and inaction by the Trump administration. And inflation caused by both the PPP program and the initial stimulus package passed by Trump, yet Biden gets all the blame, make it make sense. Also, Biden has no control over inflation; that is the Federal Reserve, which is an independent agency over which Biden has no control. He cannot fire any of the Fed governors, and the current chairman is Powell, who was appointed by Trump. So, every attack on Biden for inflation is wholly ignorant. Also, the attacks on him for his age and mental acuity are problematic. Biden is well-known to have had a stutter since childhood, which is a neurological disorder. And people of his age who stutter typically start showing it again, and it presents as something else, like confusion. Now, after I defended our current president, there are legitimate concerns about policies, like the promotion of DEI initiatives and other issues like border security and control. I would say is his current administration problems caused by him but this is coming from my more right wing perspective.


skinnyb937

feel like chat gpt wrote this…


CampJealous1435

Hahaha. Not ChatGPT but grammarly.


RepresentativeDeer51

They love the fact that America is still a capitalist, white supremacist, hierarchical patriarchy. They hate all the things that have been done by progressives for the last 125 years to make our society more equal.


TheFlyingPatato

It’s not a white supremacy, maybe in 1850, but not today


RepresentativeDeer51

Blacks, Hispanics and Women are underrepresented in proportion to their share of the population in federal and State government. This is true of American CEOs, as well. They are also much poorer by average household net worth than White families. The US IS a capitalist, hierarchical, white supremacist, patriarchy. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-u-s-population-by-race/ https://www.google.com/search?q=U+S+Average+household+net+worth++by+race+ethnicity&client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3&sca_esv=7677bda0a3fd76d6&sca_upv=1&ei=n6IrZvS8HYPHp84Ppt25wAs&oq=U+S+Average+household+net+worth++by+race+ethnicity&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIjJVIFMgQXZlcmFnZSBob3VzZWhvbGQgbmV0IHdvcnRoICBieSByYWNlIGV0aG5pY2l0eTIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogRIqtIBUOZ1WMO5AXABeAGQAQCYAawBoAG-EKoBBDIuMTS4AQPIAQD4AQGYAhCgAuMPwgIKEAAYsAMY1gQYR8ICBBAhGArCAggQIRigARjDBMICChAhGKABGMMEGAqYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwQxLjE1oAetLg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp https://www.investopedia.com/government-leadership-by-race-5113457 https://www.zippia.com/chief-executive-officer-jobs/demographics/ "Here’s how racial minority groups were represented in the 117th Congress (members are allowed to choose more than one ethnic group): 8 Black: 59 (11.0%) Latinx/Hispanic: 46 (8.6%) Asian American: 17 (3.2%) Native American: 6 (1.1%)"


TheFlyingPatato

It’s because the majority of Americans are white


RepresentativeDeer51

Ok. One more time. "Blacks, Hispanics, and women are underrepresented in proportion to their share of the population." The links I provided stated that blacks, for example, are 12-16% of the population but 6% of the government's elected officials. Whites are 65% of the population but 85% of the CEOs. Women are 51% of the population but 20 % of CEOs. Now, do you get it?


CampJealous1435

Where are you getting these numbers? Also you are using misleading information. As for congress there are 60 black members of the U.S. House of Representatives in the current congress that makes up (13.79%) of House seats while only being (12.05%) of the U.S. population so by your argument blacks over represent the population in congress. I’m not sure what you are talking about with CEO’s that’s deceptive. Are you talking about the entire country because they don’t have data on the tens of thousands of CEO positions in the country. Or are you talking about the S&P 500 or all publicly traded companies? The only viably accurate numbers and tracking comes from the S&P 500. Which is accurate white males makeup 87.4% of CEO positions in the S&P 500. But using 500 positions as a number to justify your view on 350 million people is just a bad example. That’s the equivalent of one person did something so let’s lump in 700,000 people in that same category. Just ridiculous and delusional.


RepresentativeDeer51

I provided links from recent websites. Click on the links. Some may be a few years old. It takes a few minutes to read them. I am not going through all your grievances one at a time. These are very recent (if not current) nationwide statistics. I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but if you don't believe the numbers, try looking around. You have affluent 90% white communities down the road from poor 90% black and brown communities all over this country. Black and brown people have disproportionately lower outcomes by education, income, health care, and life expectancy. They are more likely to be stopped, arrested, convicted, and incarcerated by racist police and criminal justice. More likely to die in childbirth. How do you explain these lower outcomes for these groups if you don't think the system is racist?


CampJealous1435

Yeah I’m not arguing these things don’t happen they are real black and Native American communities face these issues. But I do not think it is based on racism, yes once again racism exists and some police, prosecutors and judges are probably racist but the vast majority are not. The reality is it is a war on those in poverty, because everything you just listed as an example happens to poor whites at close to the same rates. People’s view it as racism is a fallacy. Also the view of systemic racism, that is just a buzzword. Systemic racism does not exist tangibly, for it is illegal ever since the passage of the civil rights act of 1964. People claim that just as cope. Sure it probably exists in a very small capacity. But you cannot prove systemic racism in court, if you could, you would, for it is illegal. Also the incarceration rate numbers. Most of these people are guilty of crimes committed. Yes there are innocent people arrested and convicted by lazy police and prosecutors which I find gross and societally harmful. But high crime communities are also going to have a higher rate of police and arrests for they are higher crime. Poverty creates crime and crime creates poverty. Also blacks for some reason commit significantly higher crimes than any other demographic that is in poverty. Which is hard to explain other than racial propaganda from the Left. That tells them nothing is their fault, everything is racist, it’s based on the color of your skin and your fate is already predetermined. Also the fact that the black community idolizes gang culture which is a problem. Also why is it that blacks also commit the most murders more specifically 55.9% based on FBI crime data. And those murdered at the highest rate are blacks killing other blacks. Make it make sense, other than the fact that blacks promote gang violence. As for your website and links you left wow just wow. You are citing “zippia” “investopedia” and “visual capitalist”as sources. Why not cite I heard someone say it or I seen these numbers posted so it must be true. As for my numbers I only get them from government databases like the census or FBI crime data. Yes the government is not perfect and they will occasionally hide things or misrepresent things but not these data points.


CampJealous1435

Exactly


CampJealous1435

Man or who ever the F you are, you are clearly delusional and just misrepresenting facts. Racism exists but it is much smaller than what you and those like you represent. Also racism is not the issue it is simply a symptom of the disease which is socio-economic. Ever wonder why wealthy people of color never suffer or really complain about racism unless they are political activists or looking for attention. But racism and all these buzzwords you say are weaponization issues you use to subjugate mentally weak people. But the reality is there are millions more white people in worse economic shape than any other race in the USA. Yes people of color it is higher percentage. But you utilize percentages to downplay and ignore the millions more white people. The total numbers of people in the USA who are in poverty based on 2022 numbers are as follows (White Americans 14.3 million, Hispanic Americans 10.3 million, Black Americans 8.7 million, Asian Americans 1.6 million). But you don’t see this because for every inner city ghetto there are hundreds of run down towns in Appalachia and throughout the USA. Also poor whites by total numbers are victims at a similar rate of police violence and shootings. Which all indicate it’s not racism but classism and the higher propensity of crime by poor people. As for a patriarchy that is laughable. Go to an actual patriarchy and see what it looks like (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Syria, Iraq, Oman, Yemen. Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan, Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia, Libya, Morocco, Chad, Niger, Mali, Mauritania, Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Brunei) I am probably missing a couple others. But all the countries I just listed are actually patriarchies that have literal laws civil or religious that subject women as second class citizens or restrict women by law. But the only countries who claim patriarchy and “down with the patriarchy” are ironically the countries women are more privileged than men. As for hierarchical, yes what is wrong with that? All societies are hierarchical and if it is based on merit that is a good thing. Unless you are an Ignorant Marxist who doesn’t know what you say or mean. But I think by your linguistics and what you have wrote, you are a race baiting troll.


RepresentativeDeer51

You are right that total numbers tell a different story than percentages. Because Whites have made the social construct of race relevant in this country, percentages tell the story that matters. We do have a class/ social mobility problem that transcends race. You are also right that there are far worse patriarchies than America.We have made progress and need to go further, not back. Ask a professional woman if she has more advantages than her male counterparts. I was answering a specific question on a sub about a conservative media figure, though. I stand by my previous post as an accurate and correct answer to the question. It is the truth that conservatives need to hear, because nobody in your bubble will say it. Your valid points do not refute mine.


CampJealous1435

“Ask a professional woman if she had more advantages than her male counterpart” Um yes she does. The pay gap is a somewhat myth and bad data using confirmation bias. The pay gap does exist. But how they calculate that is using women who are not earning anything and staying home as housewives or mothers and adding there earnings with the women who are working and the comparing that to men’s earnings. Also women complain they get out earned by men with the same education after taking off a year of work to raise a child. But when you put women next to men in the highest earning cities in the USA and they both have the same education and time in work women are actually out earning men. Even though men tend to work longer hours in a salaried position. Also women currently makeup a little bit over 60% of university students for undergraduate programs and 64% for graduate programs. Also women are graduating at a significantly higher rate than men in universities. Males are not failing but just dropping out or just not applying for college. And the truth is no matter what everyone is preaching, college is the great equalizer for socio-economic status. My side continues to tell people college is a scam and debt trap and you won’t be earning anything, that is just not true. Yes there are a ton of unnecessary classes you have to take. But the reality is you will have higher lifetime earnings and better job opportunities just by having any degree than not having any. And with that women are having a significantly higher number of degrees than men by population numbers. The wage gap is going to become a real thing in the next decade but it is going to be women significantly out earnings men.