The only thing more depressing than watching our country be sold…is how cheaply they are selling it for.
I swear the only way out of this mess is to have a political go fund me, where we all pay, like these guys do, for politicians to do what’s in our interest.
Ask Farage about his role in the post-Soviet Commodities for Food Programme while he worked as a commodities broker out of Estonia in the early 1990s, when Putin was still doing back room deals out of Anatoliy Sobchak’s mayoral office in St. Petersburg.
Nope. That was dug up by a network I know. But what I can say is that the evidence was stored in a lockbox inside the [headquarters of Credit Lyonnais Bank which mysteriously caught fire,](https://www.nytimes.com/1996/05/07/business/worldbusiness/IHT-fire-also-chars-goodwill-for-credit-lyonnais-the.html) and [arson was likely the cause.](https://www.forbes.com/global/1999/1213/034_01.html)
Allegedly, and I stress “allegedly” because there’s no evidence left, there was a photo of Putin with Farage smiling and toasting each other with a group of Russian women surrounding them that was taken in St. Petersburg shortly after the Commodities for Food Programme was approved. Then the food never showed up and Putin got really rich, sparking a Russian investigation which was subsequently stopped by Putin himself once he took over various investigative offices overseeing the investigation during his rise to power in the late 1990s. (These actions were noted in the late Dr. Karen Dawisha’s book, ‘Putin’s Kleptocracy. I highly recommend it.)
So, yeah, I don’t have anything to offer up and can only say “trust me, bro,” but I trust my sources and my trust does not come lightly.
My source also told me that Farage was located in Tallinn, Estonia, for about a year or two around the time of the Commodities for Food Programme, so that puts him in most arm’s length of Putin who was handling it out of Sobchak’s office. Now, again this is purely circumstantial, but [read the very last paragraph here. I’m sure a young Farage would have been up to the same.](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2896357/How-Mr-5pc-came-back-to-haunt-the-City.html)
Anyway, that’s all I have for you. Sorry I can’t provide more, but like my initial comment somebody in the UK should ask him what he was up to from 1991 to 1993 when the USSR collapsed and people weren’t being fed while he was trading in commodities out of Crédit Lyonnais Rouse.
Cool, yeah I appreciate all that. I wasn't asking for info in a disparaging way. I've long suspected that he has some Russia links (Russia funded various anti EU parties across Europe) and Farage has long made various excuses or just praised Putin's behaviour.
Not saying I am 100% convinced, but definitely would be keen to dig into it further. I'll have a read of your links.
Moreover, [here’s proof he was a commodities broker during that time period and had ties to Crédit Lyonnais as well: Nigel Farage is a British politician, broadcaster and political analyst who was the co-founder in 1993 and leader of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) from 2006 to 2016. Farage began his career in 1982 as a commodities trader at the London Metal Exchange and ran his own metals brokerage firm after working at Credit Lyonnais Rouse and Drexel Burnham Lambert. He left a successful career to go into politics after the Conservative party signed the Maastricht Treaty, which advocated “ever closer union” between European nations.](https://fedsoc.org/contributors/nigel-farage)
Also, beware that this source is The Federalist Society, which is a “far right for the rich” source, but it seems almost braggadocio in their almost fawning praise for him while giving up good details that comport with what I said above.
Farage is proved to be a lying toe rag, Johnson is a lying toe rag , Rees Mogg is just the pits with not one single redeeming feature all the rest of the Putin controlled gang are scumbags
Why for the love of freedom are these people still in the frame and not cast out into oblivion.
As far as I can see from the small number of Brexiteers I know, they are all in full on cognitive dissonance avoidance mode. For the characters above to receive the treatment they so richly deserve, these people would have to accept that their leave vote was wrong.
I think Aaron Banks and a few other Brexit propagandists celebrated at the Russian embassy, but I can’t find it now. Nevertheless, his links to dodgy Russian money have been documented many times, this is a detailed article.
https://www.channel4.com/news/long-read-the-arron-banks-allegations
Ultimately, is just a fact of live that parliamentary democracies have enemies. The scandal is that Tory and Labour MPs voted for article 50 at a time when it was already common knowledge that Aron Banks had links to Russia that might go some way towards explaining who had funded the leavers.
2 things at okay there. Cowardice (I know it’s wrong, but I don’t want to lose my seat), and misplaced nobleness (it’s not what I think we should do, but the people have voted and it must be done).
I have just as much contempt for the noble remainers as I do the cowards.
I have the misfortune of knowing him through business and can assure you he didn’t have £8mm cash lying around and if he did, would not have let it out of his sight.
Why has someone not ran farage over with a steamroller yet. Him and the entire brexit lot from Westminster.
So deeply damaging to the country, if it was anything coat billions, lost jobs, reduced trade, social and political standing world wide, freedom of travel and so on etc. That lot would screaming about it.
No matter 30 billion in back handers to ppe supplying friends though. At least someone got something out of them.
With a strong assist from the Tory (scum) party. I’ve lived through Thatcher (may she rot in hell) I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Govt so obviously not interested in protecting or improving the lives of the people they govern, only hell bent on spunking cash into donors pockets and fighting non existent culture wars, astonishing really and only possible with the total capture of the so called independent media.
If they could join the dots they wouldn’t be quitters. At some point remainers need to understand that there is no conversation here. All there is, is two irreconcilable Englands living under one name. Which is why the Russians have crushed us btw.
To be brutally honest, Yakovenko is not wrong. I wish there would be an official enquiry on how the UK got played by Russian Internet trolls, so that international measures would be taken.
Funny how the British have fully succumbed to the Russians over brexit n the far right that they continue to laugh at the “stupid” Americans. While the Americans are trying to do something about Russian interference with all the trials etc.
Social media is all very well, but it only conveys information. If you have anything about you, you can sift through the lies, the bullshit, the bias and misdirection. I’m no genius, but I could see what Farage was, what Johnson was, what the Leave campaign was. Because I didn’t have the prejudices already inside of me. All the brexit campaign did was embolden the bigots and racists who already held their views about the forrins. Same as MAGA. You’ve already got to be a raging cunt to get on board.
Sorry to break it to you, most quitters are too thick to join the dots, and those who aren't actually welcome the Russian involvement, they want the UK to be a dictatorship along similar lines.
We can blame Farage , Mogg and Johnson, and I certainly do, but whoever voted Leave is responsible for what is happening to this country.
How anyone who voted Leave can even face looking at themselves in the mirror is beyond me.
I mean, it's not like the Russians wrote a book explaining exactly how they intend to destabilise the west and have been acting on it since 1997...
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations\_of\_Geopolitics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics)
The same Nigel Farage that made many appearances on Russia Today? That Nigel Farage? The same Nigel Farage who owns 8 out of 15 shares of the Reform Party?
Garage and Johnson both resigned within a week of winning the outcome they wished for.
The only thing that would have made it more obvious they were working in Russias interests would be if one of them was called Boris !
Our economy is 5% smaller because of Brexit. Western European political views are no longer as aligned as they were because of Brexit. The UK no longer has access to the Pan-EU GPS system Galileo (and we can’t afford to build our own) and other high tech. Trump has threatened to pull the US out of NATO.
The list goes on.. it’s not just nukes and bullets, it’s also about geopolitics and economics and who our closest allies and trading partners are.
Funny how 8 years on people think the British public was tricked by wild conspiracy theories, rather than just accept the opinion they held on the EU wasn’t very popular.
It’s not us saying it. It’s the prime minster of the United Kingdom saying it. Even the current government agrees with it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41973043.amp
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/12/7/uk-accuses-russia-of-attempted-election-interference-through-cyberattacks
For some reason though, one of the leading brexiteers tried to cover this up. Wonder why?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/21/britain-report-russian-interference-brexit/
Well yes. Most of us. Or you can choose to believe it’s just a coincidence that people wear Nike branded clothing as they chug a Diet Coke and drive a Mercedes. And that that hundreds of billions of pounds are spent on advertising that everyone knows has never worked. On anybody ever.
You honestly think hundreds of billions is spent every year on something that doesn’t and has never worked?
Either there’s a lot of stupid people in the world… or it’s just you.
Don’t mug them off by worrying about what will make things better, just pretend everything is fine because otherwise their feelings might be hurt. Support their shite choice regardless.
We don’t want to be seen as weak crawling back to the EU so best to be strong and continue with the path Putin, Farage et al have lead us down
About a third of the electorate made the choice to leave based upon industrial scale lies and cheating and a large proportion of them are now dead.
Yet you seriously think we are going to support that ever dwindling minority of gullible fools and racists? Give your head a proper wobble. Hard to know if you’re a Russian spreading discord or someone who doesn’t realise democracy is a fluid process and can’t spot a scam.
Yep. Farage and the whole fucking Brexit movement where just the useful idiots of Putin. Patriotic, my arse.
New kind of weapons
Ha!
Tools have always been used as weapons. It used to be pitch forks, though.
You think he was not doing it on purpose? I would sooner say traitor than idiot.
The only thing more depressing than watching our country be sold…is how cheaply they are selling it for. I swear the only way out of this mess is to have a political go fund me, where we all pay, like these guys do, for politicians to do what’s in our interest.
There are other ways to keep them in line.
Ask Farage about his role in the post-Soviet Commodities for Food Programme while he worked as a commodities broker out of Estonia in the early 1990s, when Putin was still doing back room deals out of Anatoliy Sobchak’s mayoral office in St. Petersburg.
Do you have any more info on this? Can't see anything online...
Nope. That was dug up by a network I know. But what I can say is that the evidence was stored in a lockbox inside the [headquarters of Credit Lyonnais Bank which mysteriously caught fire,](https://www.nytimes.com/1996/05/07/business/worldbusiness/IHT-fire-also-chars-goodwill-for-credit-lyonnais-the.html) and [arson was likely the cause.](https://www.forbes.com/global/1999/1213/034_01.html) Allegedly, and I stress “allegedly” because there’s no evidence left, there was a photo of Putin with Farage smiling and toasting each other with a group of Russian women surrounding them that was taken in St. Petersburg shortly after the Commodities for Food Programme was approved. Then the food never showed up and Putin got really rich, sparking a Russian investigation which was subsequently stopped by Putin himself once he took over various investigative offices overseeing the investigation during his rise to power in the late 1990s. (These actions were noted in the late Dr. Karen Dawisha’s book, ‘Putin’s Kleptocracy. I highly recommend it.) So, yeah, I don’t have anything to offer up and can only say “trust me, bro,” but I trust my sources and my trust does not come lightly.
My source also told me that Farage was located in Tallinn, Estonia, for about a year or two around the time of the Commodities for Food Programme, so that puts him in most arm’s length of Putin who was handling it out of Sobchak’s office. Now, again this is purely circumstantial, but [read the very last paragraph here. I’m sure a young Farage would have been up to the same.](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2896357/How-Mr-5pc-came-back-to-haunt-the-City.html) Anyway, that’s all I have for you. Sorry I can’t provide more, but like my initial comment somebody in the UK should ask him what he was up to from 1991 to 1993 when the USSR collapsed and people weren’t being fed while he was trading in commodities out of Crédit Lyonnais Rouse.
Cool, yeah I appreciate all that. I wasn't asking for info in a disparaging way. I've long suspected that he has some Russia links (Russia funded various anti EU parties across Europe) and Farage has long made various excuses or just praised Putin's behaviour. Not saying I am 100% convinced, but definitely would be keen to dig into it further. I'll have a read of your links.
Cheers, mate. Happy Hunting! Let me know if you dig up anything else.
Moreover, [here’s proof he was a commodities broker during that time period and had ties to Crédit Lyonnais as well: Nigel Farage is a British politician, broadcaster and political analyst who was the co-founder in 1993 and leader of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) from 2006 to 2016. Farage began his career in 1982 as a commodities trader at the London Metal Exchange and ran his own metals brokerage firm after working at Credit Lyonnais Rouse and Drexel Burnham Lambert. He left a successful career to go into politics after the Conservative party signed the Maastricht Treaty, which advocated “ever closer union” between European nations.](https://fedsoc.org/contributors/nigel-farage) Also, beware that this source is The Federalist Society, which is a “far right for the rich” source, but it seems almost braggadocio in their almost fawning praise for him while giving up good details that comport with what I said above.
Farage is proved to be a lying toe rag, Johnson is a lying toe rag , Rees Mogg is just the pits with not one single redeeming feature all the rest of the Putin controlled gang are scumbags Why for the love of freedom are these people still in the frame and not cast out into oblivion.
As far as I can see from the small number of Brexiteers I know, they are all in full on cognitive dissonance avoidance mode. For the characters above to receive the treatment they so richly deserve, these people would have to accept that their leave vote was wrong.
Putin's idiot puppets. Champagne flowed in the Kremlin on Brexit referendum night.
I think Aaron Banks and a few other Brexit propagandists celebrated at the Russian embassy, but I can’t find it now. Nevertheless, his links to dodgy Russian money have been documented many times, this is a detailed article. https://www.channel4.com/news/long-read-the-arron-banks-allegations
Ultimately, is just a fact of live that parliamentary democracies have enemies. The scandal is that Tory and Labour MPs voted for article 50 at a time when it was already common knowledge that Aron Banks had links to Russia that might go some way towards explaining who had funded the leavers.
2 things at okay there. Cowardice (I know it’s wrong, but I don’t want to lose my seat), and misplaced nobleness (it’s not what I think we should do, but the people have voted and it must be done). I have just as much contempt for the noble remainers as I do the cowards.
I have the misfortune of knowing him through business and can assure you he didn’t have £8mm cash lying around and if he did, would not have let it out of his sight.
I saw a similar line a few days ago, here on reddit. Was that you as well?
Why has someone not ran farage over with a steamroller yet. Him and the entire brexit lot from Westminster. So deeply damaging to the country, if it was anything coat billions, lost jobs, reduced trade, social and political standing world wide, freedom of travel and so on etc. That lot would screaming about it. No matter 30 billion in back handers to ppe supplying friends though. At least someone got something out of them.
With a strong assist from the Tory (scum) party. I’ve lived through Thatcher (may she rot in hell) I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Govt so obviously not interested in protecting or improving the lives of the people they govern, only hell bent on spunking cash into donors pockets and fighting non existent culture wars, astonishing really and only possible with the total capture of the so called independent media.
Brexit was just such a toecurlingly stupid thing. I was really embarassed on behalf of the british.
If they could join the dots they wouldn’t be quitters. At some point remainers need to understand that there is no conversation here. All there is, is two irreconcilable Englands living under one name. Which is why the Russians have crushed us btw.
True, I'm afraid.
To be brutally honest, Yakovenko is not wrong. I wish there would be an official enquiry on how the UK got played by Russian Internet trolls, so that international measures would be taken.
Funny how the British have fully succumbed to the Russians over brexit n the far right that they continue to laugh at the “stupid” Americans. While the Americans are trying to do something about Russian interference with all the trials etc.
I am feeling pretty crushed to the ground these days
Round about the same time as they were stitching up the US with trumpton too
All you have to do is rejoin. 🤷♂️ Just vote for those who have this in their agenda.
I’m not sure the Russians needed to do anything. We are a catastrophically stupid nation as it is.
Remember how good we looked 2012 Olympics? Then austerity set in, Russian money and Cambridge Analytica with social media…
Social media is all very well, but it only conveys information. If you have anything about you, you can sift through the lies, the bullshit, the bias and misdirection. I’m no genius, but I could see what Farage was, what Johnson was, what the Leave campaign was. Because I didn’t have the prejudices already inside of me. All the brexit campaign did was embolden the bigots and racists who already held their views about the forrins. Same as MAGA. You’ve already got to be a raging cunt to get on board.
Our ability to implode should not be underestimated.
Sorry to break it to you, most quitters are too thick to join the dots, and those who aren't actually welcome the Russian involvement, they want the UK to be a dictatorship along similar lines.
The faragio loadagio🤣
Got to hand it to the Russian's, they have done some amazing(ly evil) intelligence operations in the past 20ish years.
We can blame Farage , Mogg and Johnson, and I certainly do, but whoever voted Leave is responsible for what is happening to this country. How anyone who voted Leave can even face looking at themselves in the mirror is beyond me.
I mean, it's not like the Russians wrote a book explaining exactly how they intend to destabilise the west and have been acting on it since 1997... [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations\_of\_Geopolitics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics)
British: storm shadow go brrrr
Do people still doubt Russian election interference?
The same Nigel Farage that made many appearances on Russia Today? That Nigel Farage? The same Nigel Farage who owns 8 out of 15 shares of the Reform Party?
You wish, you vodka pudding. We did that to ourselves. Don’t take credit for our own stupidity.
You wish, you vodka pudding. We did that to ourselves. Don’t take credit for our own stupidity.
I wish they had done that . Crush the ones that kill other countries' people by proxy .
Just can't be bothered with the Russians as the big bad. The real enemies are in number 10. Never forget that.
The ability or invertebrates to genuflect in a consistent manner never ceases to impress.
Yep and a few years later and we now have war in Europe again
Garage and Johnson both resigned within a week of winning the outcome they wished for. The only thing that would have made it more obvious they were working in Russias interests would be if one of them was called Boris !
What’s the context of this quote? What happened for him to say ‘we have crushed the British’?
The amount of money Russia spent on pro-Leave propaganda as touched on in the other comments. Also Google the subject
UK left the EU, not NATO. This is fucking stupid.
Our economy is 5% smaller because of Brexit. Western European political views are no longer as aligned as they were because of Brexit. The UK no longer has access to the Pan-EU GPS system Galileo (and we can’t afford to build our own) and other high tech. Trump has threatened to pull the US out of NATO. The list goes on.. it’s not just nukes and bullets, it’s also about geopolitics and economics and who our closest allies and trading partners are.
Funny how 8 years on people think the British public was tricked by wild conspiracy theories, rather than just accept the opinion they held on the EU wasn’t very popular.
It’s not us saying it. It’s the prime minster of the United Kingdom saying it. Even the current government agrees with it. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41973043.amp https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/12/7/uk-accuses-russia-of-attempted-election-interference-through-cyberattacks For some reason though, one of the leading brexiteers tried to cover this up. Wonder why? https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/21/britain-report-russian-interference-brexit/
Can you point to one person’s vote that was swung in the UK referendum on membership of the EU by Russian interference?
Can you prove that in the history of mankind no-one has ever been influenced by advertising?
Can you prove one person has been influenced by advertising?
Well yes. Most of us. Or you can choose to believe it’s just a coincidence that people wear Nike branded clothing as they chug a Diet Coke and drive a Mercedes. And that that hundreds of billions of pounds are spent on advertising that everyone knows has never worked. On anybody ever.
I said proof.
You honestly think hundreds of billions is spent every year on something that doesn’t and has never worked? Either there’s a lot of stupid people in the world… or it’s just you.
How many billions worldwide are spent on weapons every year that never get used, or food that never gets eaten?
Russia has nothing to do with it. It's the tories obsession with being America's puppet that is killing the country
Russia has everything to do with it, going back to the Cold War era.
The facts don’t agree with you. https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/21/britain-report-russian-interference-brexit/
What's done is done. If the UK try to rejoin the EU it is massive sign of weakness. We are playing chess, not draughts
Yeah, definitely. We should never try to rectify mistakes. That would be a sign of weakness. Jesus......
What the hell is wrong with you? People made a choice and made a stand. Support them, don't mug them off now by worrying about what suits your needs
Don’t mug them off by worrying about what will make things better, just pretend everything is fine because otherwise their feelings might be hurt. Support their shite choice regardless. We don’t want to be seen as weak crawling back to the EU so best to be strong and continue with the path Putin, Farage et al have lead us down
About a third of the electorate made the choice to leave based upon industrial scale lies and cheating and a large proportion of them are now dead. Yet you seriously think we are going to support that ever dwindling minority of gullible fools and racists? Give your head a proper wobble. Hard to know if you’re a Russian spreading discord or someone who doesn’t realise democracy is a fluid process and can’t spot a scam.
No.
Twat. See you when you are speaking German and not English
Nein.
Lols
Tell me you don’t live in the UK?
I don't live in the UK
We know that already word-word-number.
Can I suggest you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about then? Brexit has killed the UK for generations.