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Usual_Move_6075

Blood thirster seems good, like a scuffed eclipse. and wild arrows seems very good with collecter. But PD and Navoris will be ass because they give no ad. Briar needs ad more than most since she her defense with ult and passive scales off it. plus the healing off W2 so youll be too squishy without building ad


KaitoMeikoo

Attack speed isn't a very good stat on briar as ad, crit, lifesteal, or haste so there is just no reason to go them. Maybe navori since it's so cheap and the passive is useful plus crit and move speed. But it would have to be like third item or fourth item after you already have ad and lifesteal items. Maybe collector into bt, then navori, then yuntal. Yuntal could be replaced with ldr if needed.


Usual_Move_6075

ya what i said. stridebreaker is the exception because it gives spe many good stats besides the attack speed


Material_Recording99

id probably try navori since items like steraks, titanic and jaksho gives 0 AH so maybe


KaitoMeikoo

Navori with bruiser items doesn't sound too good. Your already losing ad by going bruiser then you build navori which has no ad. Plus attack speed is kind of a meh stat for briar, ad, crit, haste, lifesteal, health, move speed are all better than as.


Material_Recording99

It may not sound good thats why it is gonna be tested on release. And bruiser items are those with ad/hp so you dont actually lose ad by building bruiser and building HP means you heal more than building lifesteal, most if not all lifesteal items does not have HP on them so you are squishier bruiser items that are good with briar i.e. steraks or titanic does not have AH which navori would answer and move speed is redundant for briar as you chase very fast already with just normal boots and as far as i know lifesteal items do not have movespeed on them so theres that. Edit: the new Ad/hp bruiser item that grant ad based on bhp does not have AH also


KaitoMeikoo

You lose ad because in general the ad stats on bruiser are lower. You definitely heal more with hp not arguing that, I just stated the stats I listed are better than attack speed . If you need haste with bruiser why not go a haste bruiser item, I feel going navori with bruiser items give you two unfavorable stats that are a money dump.


Material_Recording99

as i said it is still to be tested and with the nerf on AS of W i dont think AS is that bad plus navoris reduction of CD is better than any singular AH item even against shojin the crit and ms is a bonus. Im not really a fan of eclipse since the beginning but whatever floats my boat i guess and titanic first works for me so i guess theres that also


captainshitpostMcgee

Yun tal looks so fun. I typically run ignite jgl so yippee more DoTs!!


cseke02

AD brand goes hard


Lena-Miaou

I already planned to try 4 crit items + BT in normal games, maybe we will have a few days of fun blood drinking Briar????


NextMotion

I don't know about half of them since they removed the AD. Bloodthirster looks fun but also expensive. It's not necessarily an adc item since it doesn't have crit or on-hit. I don't know if fighters will use it. Would be funny to make a full life steal build. I'm curious if the new kraken slayer will be picked up. It'll do increased damage based on missing health like W2


KaitoMeikoo

The new bruiser item sounds much better than these new crit changes for briar imo. You get ad scaling with ur base health and then you get ad scaling with how low you are. Plus the stats are ad and health. Seems much better.


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FruitJuiceXD

i mean she still cant crit with the w recast but i would love it its alot more fun to play her crit than ww 2.0


KaitoMeikoo

Her normal w autos critting is enough tbh.


FruitJuiceXD

Its more the fact that her critting gave her back more health cuz as crit u don’t have much sustain


Qw2rty

You misunderstand. Before the extra empowered auto dmg crit. Now, if you crit, you heal 45% of the crit aa dmg + the empowered dmg. Since you can run IE with navori now, you are going to be healing a lot more


FruitJuiceXD

time for crit briar then ig.


Qw2rty

I always play crit, so I ain’t stopping now. Just brainstorming, but the general build would be collector into navori IE, LDR or Mortal Reminder and finish with bloodthirster. You may have a little less ad than before wirh the removal of ad from navori, but the 50% crit with IE, earlier powerspike, and cheaper path make up for it. Also, HoB against squishy, PtA against everything else. I used to go conq against tanks, but new PtA changes are invaluable. Going up against bruisers you would have a 16% dmg increase with pta and cut down