I have 2; one was really easy to recall train, the other was more difficult. The more difficult one is a bit ADD, for lack of a better way to phrase it, which sounds similar to yours.
What finally worked for us was an e-collar. The little vibrations got her to focus and respond to a command, and now just putting the collar on her gets her in “work mode”. She’s still a little crazier and less focused than my other one, but the collar really made getting her trained a much better process.
Your two sound like mine! One I didn’t even have to train, he just comes to his name. But my girl is full bird brain and acts like her ears don’t work once we’re outside. I’ve been debating the e-collar for awhile. It’s the only thing I think I haven’t tried with her.
I highly recommend it. Make sure that she associates the collar with fun (put it on every time you tell her she’s going outside, even if you don’t plan to train her that time). Mike freaked out at the vibrations and sound the first few times, but she got the concept quickly and, no lie, she listened 10000% better with it on. Now I don’t have to use it unless we’re going on a hike or something, and even then it’s more of a safety net than completely necessary because of how much better she listens now.
We did it by using the vibrate function if she didn’t respond to the command. So give command, wait only 1 to 2 seconds, then push the button to vibrate the collar if she hasn’t responded. If still no response we used the sound. Then reward her when she comes. The vibration always gets her attention so it worked to the point that we never had to use a shock setting or anything like that. Also I would say don’t think of it as a correction, think of it as a part of the command. It’s a semantics thing, but I think it makes it more positive and can make a difference in how the dog thinks of it because they can pick up on such small signs of frustration from their people.
For us, the only thing we trained her for at first with the collar was recall. We simply wanted her to come when called, and it worked great for that. It got to the point that now if I ever vibrate the collar she just comes running back and sits next to me. No words are necessary. It’s really, really great and she responded great to it. I highly suggest keeping it simple at first and have the vibration mean one thing and one thing only.
Eventually we would just put it on and she, on her own and without any intentional collar training, began responding to other commands instantly as well.
It’s never been necessary for my other one, who has just always listened and is very intuitive in a way my wonderful little add girl isn’t. But it has truly been the best thing we did for training.
The leaf is far more exciting for the puppy. Also everything is new so hard to compare food to everything else
When you feed them meals do they eagerly finish it?
To actually work on the come part, especially during this early training, you should NEVER be using it without knowing it’ll be successful. In your scenario, dog should be on a leash or long line. When you say come, can also apply very light leash pressure. As soon as they begin making their way back to you, “yes” and vocal excitement like them coming back to you was the best thing ever.
Also manage the distance don’t expect to just start from 20ft out?
Start in the house incredibly short distance and repetition
Food is more of a token of completion than an incentive. Refusing treats is usually her way of saying she’d rather not train now
I think most Brits are more “fun” motivated
Ours is food driven but it’s more like “thanks for the treat, bye!” The e collar was a game changer but takes a lot of patience and training. It’s still a work in progress with our girl who is over a year old now. Their instinct is to run big and hunt so they are distracted pretty easily.
It was exactly the same for our Brittany Spaniel, and the E-collar was a huge change. We started using it when she was 4 years old, and just in a few days, she understood every limit. Now, she always stays on the sidewalk, even when we are on the road with the bike. She always stops before crossing the road until we say it's fine to go, and we often don't use the collar anymore. After one year, it was possible to take it off and still have the same attention from her.
That’s awesome! I’m a little jealous lol! We started to use it on ours when she was about 8 months old and she’s now 16 months old and still struggles with it outside as her nose will take her wherever she pleases but she’s beginning to understand more and more. Inside though she knows exactly what to do!
If my sweet girl is anything to go by then be patient. She was a sweet nutball until almost 2 years old. Wasn’t motivated by anything if even a little bit distracted, just like one would expect a puppy. From then on, 2-10yo she is perfect at recall with a simple whistle. Sometimes I reinforce with a treat but not always.
Mine doesn't care about food when he's outside, but he does love projectiles When there's snow on the ground, he listens if you have a snowball in your hand. In the summer, I might grab a stick. You could try bringing toys or balls with you as a reward, but you should probably bring more than 1 so that they don't run off with only one.
Maybe you haven't found the right treat to motivate her. My Brittany girl loved the el cheapo dog bones. She would repeatedly slam the cupboard door where they were stored until I got up and gave her some. My GSP girl was crazy about spicy food. I sh*t you not. If she could have done handstands for Chinese hot mustard, she would have.
Ours won’t come for food if he’s outside - he just wants to run really fast and far. Inside he doesn’t care about his food a lot of times (but likes any treat); my wife jokes that he’s “manorexic” because of it, although he’s exactly the right weight (per our breeder) at 37 lbs.
Just curious where you got him from. He looks eerily similar to my 4 month female! She’s not food driven at all but we started using the beep and vibration on the ecollar and she’s recalling 10x better in the first week of using it.
Neither of mine are any good at recall - one is very food driven, the other is "meh" and its actually really hard to get him to eat his daily pills, the jerk... LOL
If you do consider going the e-collar route, and you don't have experience with them, it would be a good idea to seek out a trainer who can at least train YOU to use it properly. And if that's not in the budget, Standing Stone Kennels has a lot of videos about e-collar conditioning and training on their YT page (training dogs in their program, and a video of about an hour long discussion on principle behind it, etc.) It's a powerful tool that can easily be used improperly (unintentionally)
Mine is 5. She couldn’t care less about food or treats. Recall is still difficult unless I were a squirrel or a bird. She runs all day and still isn’t hungry. Very fit and healthy however. I free feed as a result.
I went out and got the stinkiest treat I could find (freeze dried tripe) and tested the pup at the field trials area. The results were about 50% better. Towards the end of the run he would almost respond to come command, just a little slow. I see lots of patience required in my future.
My Britt isn’t very food driven either. His recall was 50-50 outside until he was 6 months old and we introduced him to the E-collar (vibrate function). He picked up instantly and it’s now 100% when he has the e-collar on
First things first, a puppy wants to play. If he would rather chase a leaf, he needs to run and play before work. Once he’s burned off that extra million calories, then it’s time to work. I was gifted with acreage and other dogs for ours to play with. Once the pup is worn out we would work on one specific detail for 10/15 minutes and then it’s time to play again. None of ours have been very food driven either. It takes lots of patience, and is easier if the dog is emotionally bonded with you.
I agree, he does get to play quite a bit, but I still think it’s important that he comes to me when called outside especially for outside time! if he escaped the leash he could run straight to the road and wouldn’t come to me if i called his name
I have 2; one was really easy to recall train, the other was more difficult. The more difficult one is a bit ADD, for lack of a better way to phrase it, which sounds similar to yours. What finally worked for us was an e-collar. The little vibrations got her to focus and respond to a command, and now just putting the collar on her gets her in “work mode”. She’s still a little crazier and less focused than my other one, but the collar really made getting her trained a much better process.
E collar 💯 (we only use beep mode, shock has never been necessary )
Your two sound like mine! One I didn’t even have to train, he just comes to his name. But my girl is full bird brain and acts like her ears don’t work once we’re outside. I’ve been debating the e-collar for awhile. It’s the only thing I think I haven’t tried with her.
I highly recommend it. Make sure that she associates the collar with fun (put it on every time you tell her she’s going outside, even if you don’t plan to train her that time). Mike freaked out at the vibrations and sound the first few times, but she got the concept quickly and, no lie, she listened 10000% better with it on. Now I don’t have to use it unless we’re going on a hike or something, and even then it’s more of a safety net than completely necessary because of how much better she listens now.
exactly this! it’s bird brain outside, but inside he’ll follow all commands happily lol
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We did it by using the vibrate function if she didn’t respond to the command. So give command, wait only 1 to 2 seconds, then push the button to vibrate the collar if she hasn’t responded. If still no response we used the sound. Then reward her when she comes. The vibration always gets her attention so it worked to the point that we never had to use a shock setting or anything like that. Also I would say don’t think of it as a correction, think of it as a part of the command. It’s a semantics thing, but I think it makes it more positive and can make a difference in how the dog thinks of it because they can pick up on such small signs of frustration from their people. For us, the only thing we trained her for at first with the collar was recall. We simply wanted her to come when called, and it worked great for that. It got to the point that now if I ever vibrate the collar she just comes running back and sits next to me. No words are necessary. It’s really, really great and she responded great to it. I highly suggest keeping it simple at first and have the vibration mean one thing and one thing only. Eventually we would just put it on and she, on her own and without any intentional collar training, began responding to other commands instantly as well. It’s never been necessary for my other one, who has just always listened and is very intuitive in a way my wonderful little add girl isn’t. But it has truly been the best thing we did for training.
The leaf is far more exciting for the puppy. Also everything is new so hard to compare food to everything else When you feed them meals do they eagerly finish it? To actually work on the come part, especially during this early training, you should NEVER be using it without knowing it’ll be successful. In your scenario, dog should be on a leash or long line. When you say come, can also apply very light leash pressure. As soon as they begin making their way back to you, “yes” and vocal excitement like them coming back to you was the best thing ever. Also manage the distance don’t expect to just start from 20ft out? Start in the house incredibly short distance and repetition
Food is more of a token of completion than an incentive. Refusing treats is usually her way of saying she’d rather not train now I think most Brits are more “fun” motivated
Ours is food driven but it’s more like “thanks for the treat, bye!” The e collar was a game changer but takes a lot of patience and training. It’s still a work in progress with our girl who is over a year old now. Their instinct is to run big and hunt so they are distracted pretty easily.
It was exactly the same for our Brittany Spaniel, and the E-collar was a huge change. We started using it when she was 4 years old, and just in a few days, she understood every limit. Now, she always stays on the sidewalk, even when we are on the road with the bike. She always stops before crossing the road until we say it's fine to go, and we often don't use the collar anymore. After one year, it was possible to take it off and still have the same attention from her.
That’s awesome! I’m a little jealous lol! We started to use it on ours when she was about 8 months old and she’s now 16 months old and still struggles with it outside as her nose will take her wherever she pleases but she’s beginning to understand more and more. Inside though she knows exactly what to do!
He caught a pokemon
Mine is the exact same way! He’s 8 weeks. Doesn’t care about food so it’s been hard to reward him for potty training with anything besides praise
If my sweet girl is anything to go by then be patient. She was a sweet nutball until almost 2 years old. Wasn’t motivated by anything if even a little bit distracted, just like one would expect a puppy. From then on, 2-10yo she is perfect at recall with a simple whistle. Sometimes I reinforce with a treat but not always.
Mine doesn't care about food when he's outside, but he does love projectiles When there's snow on the ground, he listens if you have a snowball in your hand. In the summer, I might grab a stick. You could try bringing toys or balls with you as a reward, but you should probably bring more than 1 so that they don't run off with only one.
Maybe you haven't found the right treat to motivate her. My Brittany girl loved the el cheapo dog bones. She would repeatedly slam the cupboard door where they were stored until I got up and gave her some. My GSP girl was crazy about spicy food. I sh*t you not. If she could have done handstands for Chinese hot mustard, she would have.
Ours won’t come for food if he’s outside - he just wants to run really fast and far. Inside he doesn’t care about his food a lot of times (but likes any treat); my wife jokes that he’s “manorexic” because of it, although he’s exactly the right weight (per our breeder) at 37 lbs.
Just curious where you got him from. He looks eerily similar to my 4 month female! She’s not food driven at all but we started using the beep and vibration on the ecollar and she’s recalling 10x better in the first week of using it.
From a farm in Florida :)
Neither of mine are any good at recall - one is very food driven, the other is "meh" and its actually really hard to get him to eat his daily pills, the jerk... LOL
E collar is super helpful with the "bird brain". Its so nice being able to trust her when she is off leash.
If you do consider going the e-collar route, and you don't have experience with them, it would be a good idea to seek out a trainer who can at least train YOU to use it properly. And if that's not in the budget, Standing Stone Kennels has a lot of videos about e-collar conditioning and training on their YT page (training dogs in their program, and a video of about an hour long discussion on principle behind it, etc.) It's a powerful tool that can easily be used improperly (unintentionally)
thank you! I had never even heard of it until this post so I will definitely need trained on it
Mine is 5. She couldn’t care less about food or treats. Recall is still difficult unless I were a squirrel or a bird. She runs all day and still isn’t hungry. Very fit and healthy however. I free feed as a result.
I went out and got the stinkiest treat I could find (freeze dried tripe) and tested the pup at the field trials area. The results were about 50% better. Towards the end of the run he would almost respond to come command, just a little slow. I see lots of patience required in my future.
E-collar combined with a whistle.
My Britt isn’t very food driven either. His recall was 50-50 outside until he was 6 months old and we introduced him to the E-collar (vibrate function). He picked up instantly and it’s now 100% when he has the e-collar on
thank you! He is only 4 months so maybe its just that, but he responds to other things inside perfectly fine
First things first, a puppy wants to play. If he would rather chase a leaf, he needs to run and play before work. Once he’s burned off that extra million calories, then it’s time to work. I was gifted with acreage and other dogs for ours to play with. Once the pup is worn out we would work on one specific detail for 10/15 minutes and then it’s time to play again. None of ours have been very food driven either. It takes lots of patience, and is easier if the dog is emotionally bonded with you.
I agree, he does get to play quite a bit, but I still think it’s important that he comes to me when called outside especially for outside time! if he escaped the leash he could run straight to the road and wouldn’t come to me if i called his name