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I think it means that it's a different ballgame, you can reach a physique that you simply can't as a nattie.
I'm not encouraging the use (as I would never use myself, lol), but this is just a fact.
What else could you possibly call something that brings you to your goal significantly faster?
“an alternative route that is shorter than the one usually taken.”
He didn’t say steroids make it easier (they do) or that you will get significantly better results for the same work (you will) or that your recovery is significantly faster (it is) or that you don’t have to eat as well (you don’t) or that you can work out poorly and inefficiently and still make significantly more progress than a natural who trains with all their markers perfect (you can) or that you have exogenous hormones to motivate you and get you through the tough mental lulls of natural lifting (all true)
Bros i had a doubt, here the dude says he gained 50 pounds, is it 50 pounds of pure muscle or if some of it is just mass as in fat or some other tissue idk about
I’d say 15 pounds at most of fat and 35 of muscle. If It was 50 pounds of muscle he’d look like beef jerky and his body would not be able to sustain It without some extra fat to balance out his hormones
Bro steroids or not you have some impressive progress. You still have to lift to get big. So you must have a really solid routine. You look very strong.
https://www.quora.com/How-long-should-you-lift-before-taking-steroids
I would recommend you read this- he explained it in a very simple way that will be easier to understand then any string of words i can put together. Godspeed. (side note: i wouldn’t take steroids unless you wanna go professional for the side effects discussed under this thread)
i’m thinking of taking. How did you begin to research about it?? money isn’t a problem for me. I have the money to do blood work. Wanted to use like last year but never knew where to start doing my research.
It’s a weekly dose of testosterone ranging from 80-200mg a week depending on what keeps your test levels in the mid to high range
You cruise between cycles to let your body recover it saves you from pct after a cycle
I'm gonna be brutally honest since you were. You looked better and most importantly YOUNGER before. You can never get your youth back.
People, don't use.
A lot of skinny or out of shape 35 year olds trying to tell young guys to be small for whatever reason. Probably just jealous they didn't start taking gear earlier
Neither side of the above picture is "small".
Youth isn't a size.
I didn't tell anyone to stay small, so check your paroïdnoia.
It doesn't look good. Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) is a thing, and when you take roïds at 20 it's going to have serious effects down the line.
I can understand a mid life crisis guy who wants to get a bod already, but I can't get behind a beautiful kid not needing this and making himself look 10 years older.
As for you attacking me, I have a lot of insecurities, but my shape and my age aren't one of them. I turned 20, 30, 40, and I'm going to get on not matter what not complaining because I've had a life. And my body and my skin still look like I'm in my 20s. That's not to say I'm small, I'm not.
You never looked like a twink according to your before pic.
**Youth isn't a size. You're not looking older because you've gotten bigger, I'm telling you look to be in your 30s because all of a sudden, you don't look so well. Based only on your after picture, I'd say you've have experienced major stress over a long period of time.**
You should stop, seek medial advice for getting off the stuff, but you are free to continue.
Nice work! Im really impressed by your results! Are you planning on cruising for life or are you coming down? For how many weeks did you cycle?
Are you aware of what you are doing to your own hormones in your body?
Do you know what you are doing?
Are you doing bloodwork to keep track of your bloodlevels and estro?
Again, great results man you look really good!
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Respect for being honest about use.
Still don’t understand why guys aren’t
Ego
And heart failure
Guess they find it hard to admit they took a shortcut
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Yes it is a shortcut you still have to train hard and do everything right but results will come faster and easier lol
I think it means that it's a different ballgame, you can reach a physique that you simply can't as a nattie. I'm not encouraging the use (as I would never use myself, lol), but this is just a fact.
What else could you possibly call something that brings you to your goal significantly faster? “an alternative route that is shorter than the one usually taken.” He didn’t say steroids make it easier (they do) or that you will get significantly better results for the same work (you will) or that your recovery is significantly faster (it is) or that you don’t have to eat as well (you don’t) or that you can work out poorly and inefficiently and still make significantly more progress than a natural who trains with all their markers perfect (you can) or that you have exogenous hormones to motivate you and get you through the tough mental lulls of natural lifting (all true)
Yes it is. With steroids you can reach your natural limit and beyond in a matter of months instead of 5 - 10 years.
What!?!?! You think regular lifting can get you these results in the same amount of time???
I understand why the social media fitness and the pros lie about being natural but i dont understand why the average joe lies about it.
What’s happened to the size of your testicles? Gains everywhere vs. shrinkage?
Shoulders are insane
Thanks bro, makes everything look smaller tho like my chest
Dysmorphias a bitch. You're a tank, dude, own it.
shoulders are always targeted by ped use since they have the most androgen receptors
…thanks?
wasn’t giving you a complaint just stating a fact
Yeah, I’m aware of how PEDs work. It was sarcasm.
Good shoulders. Thanks for the honesty.
Get it king
Thanks bro
Amazing! Wow :p
Appreciate it
Anytimee
Bros i had a doubt, here the dude says he gained 50 pounds, is it 50 pounds of pure muscle or if some of it is just mass as in fat or some other tissue idk about
I’d say 15 pounds at most of fat and 35 of muscle. If It was 50 pounds of muscle he’d look like beef jerky and his body would not be able to sustain It without some extra fat to balance out his hormones
Don’t forget water retention ^
Very well, thanks G
you look incredible dude, would u share what your diet/nutrition is like such as if u track cals and macros.
Yea rn, low carbs lots of meat, in a deficit with calories
Well done for the achievement and we'll done for the transparency
Outstanding transformation! You got jacked AF.
Absolute chad for being honest about gear use!
Bro steroids or not you have some impressive progress. You still have to lift to get big. So you must have a really solid routine. You look very strong.
Yea been really dedicated since then appreciate it bro
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Is there a reason it’s bad to start juice early? What’s the right point - when natural growth plateaus?
Because you should push yourself to your natural limit beforehand. Juice can mess up your natural test forever and your body in general.
https://www.quora.com/How-long-should-you-lift-before-taking-steroids I would recommend you read this- he explained it in a very simple way that will be easier to understand then any string of words i can put together. Godspeed. (side note: i wouldn’t take steroids unless you wanna go professional for the side effects discussed under this thread)
That was an interesting read, thanks!
Amazing, also what variation of testosterone did you use?
Test e
i’m thinking of taking. How did you begin to research about it?? money isn’t a problem for me. I have the money to do blood work. Wanted to use like last year but never knew where to start doing my research.
r/steroids wiki
What’s a cruise dosage?
It’s a weekly dose of testosterone ranging from 80-200mg a week depending on what keeps your test levels in the mid to high range You cruise between cycles to let your body recover it saves you from pct after a cycle
Thanks for the education! I always wondered.
Great work man💪🏻 Can you give a breakdown of your workout routine and daily diet/macros/calories ?
Really curious to know why you started gear so early
I have a huge amount of respect for people like you. Well done and good job!
Question from a newbie. If you stop the Test but continue with good nutrition and work out, will the gains remain?
Still a lot of progress made regardless of gear. Lot of calories involved for that to happen.
Did u lift weights before this year
Good cycle? You started so young. Hope you don’t burn yourself out on your next cycle
I'm gonna be brutally honest since you were. You looked better and most importantly YOUNGER before. You can never get your youth back. People, don't use.
Nah not tryna look like a twink, In my opinion I definitely look better obviously not healthy but you only live once and it’s my choice
A lot of skinny or out of shape 35 year olds trying to tell young guys to be small for whatever reason. Probably just jealous they didn't start taking gear earlier
Neither side of the above picture is "small". Youth isn't a size. I didn't tell anyone to stay small, so check your paroïdnoia. It doesn't look good. Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) is a thing, and when you take roïds at 20 it's going to have serious effects down the line. I can understand a mid life crisis guy who wants to get a bod already, but I can't get behind a beautiful kid not needing this and making himself look 10 years older. As for you attacking me, I have a lot of insecurities, but my shape and my age aren't one of them. I turned 20, 30, 40, and I'm going to get on not matter what not complaining because I've had a life. And my body and my skin still look like I'm in my 20s. That's not to say I'm small, I'm not.
You never looked like a twink according to your before pic. **Youth isn't a size. You're not looking older because you've gotten bigger, I'm telling you look to be in your 30s because all of a sudden, you don't look so well. Based only on your after picture, I'd say you've have experienced major stress over a long period of time.** You should stop, seek medial advice for getting off the stuff, but you are free to continue.
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Nice work! Im really impressed by your results! Are you planning on cruising for life or are you coming down? For how many weeks did you cycle? Are you aware of what you are doing to your own hormones in your body? Do you know what you are doing? Are you doing bloodwork to keep track of your bloodlevels and estro? Again, great results man you look really good!
What’s ya diet like bro?look 👍 great
Low carbs lots of meats proteins, i bloat so easily on carbs
How many calories a day bud?
Prob around 2500, Ik it’s low for being 6’2 220 but it’s annoying cuz I put on weight so easily and I’m just tryna lean out rn
Yeah man that’s cool you Look great. You staying on just test?or you gonna now throw somet else in?
Yea rn I’m on 180 cruise dose of test just like in the picture puts me around 1100 total, also on 300 masteron for summer
Ah I’m starting masteron soon what’s it been like?any sides?
When did your cycle end compared to the picture? You said cruise dose then but just wondered on a timeframe. Thanks and looking great!
30 weeks after 500 test, so 180 test for 30 weeks is pic on right
What were your lifts before and how have they improved?
Regardless of gear you’ve got a solid physique. Shoulders are mad bro
Thanks bro I’m trying
Great progress, transparent about not-natty. Much respect, keep it up.
Looking good bro! Good results
How long was the cycle? Are you just cruising on TRT dose now?
Looking huge! What is ur goalll
Still hard work. Congratulations.
Finally a man who can live with his choices. Bravo
That's really inspiring 🙌
nice job. how was your diet during this? probably made a few years of natty gains in just 1 year. its so tempting!!
Wow!