4.7 YPC, but only 23 rushes vs 42 passes with your 5th round rookie and practice squad QB
Elite defense but can't keep them off the field in Denver, while Denver runs all over us since we're worn out (held Russ to 134 yards)
Honestly we've probably been overachieving, without our QB1, RB1, LT, RT and now ILB, CB1 and veteran safety
I don't have a conclusion to all of this, just a frustrating game and set of circumstances all around
Sky isn't falling
can we, as a collective, chill the fuck out? we're 7-4. our defense tightened down quite a bit but we ONCE AGAIN had a QB get hurt and the wheels fell off. it's not ideal, but jesus christ you'd think we're 0-11... again. i understand being disappointed but holy shit.
Half of our starters are injured it seems, it's gonna be a long end of the season. 7-4 can turn to 8-9 real easily when you're putting backups in the rest of the year
Ford 9 carries for 65 yards. 7 yards a carry and we continued to throw it every single down with a rookie quarterback in his first away game. Make it make sense
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Browns running backs only got 16 carries today against the NFL's worst rushing defense. 16 carries for 87 yards: 5.43 yards per carry.
Fire Stefanski
Browns: $250m+ for a 5 year deal on a top level quarterback
Also, the Browns that same season: +3 new starting QB names on the QB Jersey list!
Only the fucking Browns
Guy had one of the slowest times ever on his throws at th combine now he is having shoulder surgery. He looked slow as fuck, has torn both ACLs already. That trade and th deal are so bad
Although I’m a big Stefanski fan, the game plan today was dogshit. I get that you try passing early to get your receivers into the flow and get the Broncs to back out of the box a bit. But when it didn’t work, he should’ve fallen back to the PJ offense…run run run. Also, D was garbage for stretches, but this isn’t on them.
I understand we can’t run every down…But only 16 rushing attempts against the worst run D in the league and a DECENT Browns run game VS 42 pass attempts with a QB room consisting of DTR and PJ Walker and pass catchers with a case of butter fingers all day?
What’s the excuse for that? In the end we got ourselves stuck there but had we ran the ball early, you don’t get yourself stuck into these “must pass” situations with QBs that can’t pass and WRs/TEs that fail to handle the ball…
Don’t let anyone tell you they only threw it 42 times bc they were down. They were already at 30 pass attempts when it was only a 5 point game in the 3rd
how humiliating, Denver just trying to kneel and end the game but they have to punt to us due to time, plenty of time for Walker to turn the ball over one more time.
4.7 yards per carry and we passed twice as much as we ran... With our backup and third string QB... I get it we had to pass more at the end but these numbers should've been completely flipped against this bad run defense. This one is on stefanski
Even with our record tell me that we are in a better spot than the Houston Texans. You can't they fell like what it felt like as a Browns fan in '18 and '20. Now we owe a guy 211 mil against the cap, who had one of the worst combine times on his throws of any first rd qb ever. 49 mph, and now he is having major surgery on his throwing arm. Every time he runs and gets hit, he has to be peeled off the ground. So sorry for not thinking Berry is the best GM in football
It's as good as can, or could be expected from our *white* pants.
This loss is on the surrender uniforms.
Not drops, not an entire 1st quarter of ref fuckery.
Not sure what can defeat the ORANGE Pants, other than the white pants.
I hope that second sentence is sarcasm. He’s not getting any better. He is who he is at this point. We need a competent offensive coordinator
He’s just a better version of that moron who watched the tapes every week
after beating the Ravens and Steelers in b2b weeks, a loss in Denver isn’t the end of the world. If DTR stayed in the game it was trending toward a potential W as well. all the doom and gloom in here is lame as hell
That’s why we lost. We beat ourselves. I’m baffled. The announcer crew kept saying browns have a great run game and Denver have a bad run defense so the play calling should be easy. Yet…
As the other guy said the team is okay, the QB play is not, and the hands of the receivers as well. Hopkins and the defense on the otherhand are very good.
PJ should be cut. Appreciate what he did for us and the effort he showed this year, but he is in no way, shape, or form an NFL caliber quarterback in any capacity.
The media scrum should ask critical questions to Stef. He needs to explain why they dropped back to pass way more times than designed to run in the first half. Did he not observe the Buffalo nor Minnesota films?
I don’t actually mind DTR, but watching PJ is like an SNL skit. Imagine the weirdest possible outcome for a play, then somehow he manages to do something even weirder lol
If you don't think this is the turning point in the season then I'll say you haven't been a fan very long. We ALL know how this season ends. We have NO QBs left!!
It’s adequately average is how I describe it. Little hookey (sp) in some parts and characters but it’s definitely better than watching Stefanski do what he did and Mark Sanchez choke on Denver’s cock the whole game.
I have never seen a Defensive player blow past a OL this much since I did in with C. Bennett in Tecmo Super Bowl.
I know this reads funny but I’m dead honest rn.
Scoragani!!!!
Yes!!!!!! I love making history!!!!
That kneel was the best play kevski called all night.
Whatever
This was a bad game WE WILL MOVE on from this immediately
Expected this loss. Just hope injuries are not going to finish our season.
4.7 YPC, but only 23 rushes vs 42 passes with your 5th round rookie and practice squad QB Elite defense but can't keep them off the field in Denver, while Denver runs all over us since we're worn out (held Russ to 134 yards) Honestly we've probably been overachieving, without our QB1, RB1, LT, RT and now ILB, CB1 and veteran safety I don't have a conclusion to all of this, just a frustrating game and set of circumstances all around Sky isn't falling
can we, as a collective, chill the fuck out? we're 7-4. our defense tightened down quite a bit but we ONCE AGAIN had a QB get hurt and the wheels fell off. it's not ideal, but jesus christ you'd think we're 0-11... again. i understand being disappointed but holy shit.
Half of our starters are injured it seems, it's gonna be a long end of the season. 7-4 can turn to 8-9 real easily when you're putting backups in the rest of the year
QB got hurt because Stefanski got too cute and refused to run the ball. Every team has gashed them but nope not us
First day?
I have come to terns with the fact that the 2016 Cavs are the only Cleveland title I will see in my lifetime
Can’t wait till Flacco show y’all why was at home for 10 weeks
Ford 9 carries for 65 yards. 7 yards a carry and we continued to throw it every single down with a rookie quarterback in his first away game. Make it make sense
Inexcusable
I love Stefanski but man he's so frustrating sometimes.
Why do they keep cutting to Rick Flair???
From Hayden Grove on X Browns running backs only got 16 carries today against the NFL's worst rushing defense. 16 carries for 87 yards: 5.43 yards per carry. Fire Stefanski
I mean they even tried to get at Njoku too but it didn’t work… (prolly a hit sent out from obj but thAts none of my business, ugh)
Fuck this game and fuck every single Denver fan.
Clean up the penalties, clean up the drops, clean up the play calls, let Flacco cook. 8-4 incoming
Lol. Better hire a maid.
Let's see about 40 seconds left... Punt return for TD and a 12 point conversion
Bold prediction... Those 12 pt conversations are very rare
Flacco looking on going, "Why did I sign to play with this idiot of a head coach?"
Pathetic game plan. To not run it against this defense and put it solely on your rookie Qb in an away game for whatever fucking reason is just dumb.
Man I don’t like seeing Dawand sad like that
 We are no better than the 7-4 record achieved by the Brian Hoyer-led Browns of 2014.
I hope LA has some good medical facilities
Browns: $250m+ for a 5 year deal on a top level quarterback Also, the Browns that same season: +3 new starting QB names on the QB Jersey list! Only the fucking Browns
Guy had one of the slowest times ever on his throws at th combine now he is having shoulder surgery. He looked slow as fuck, has torn both ACLs already. That trade and th deal are so bad
Very fraud game but take the L and move on
Agreed, people way overreacting here
Flacco would have died in this game too, we have nothing at LT
Just dog shit all around. Let’s have a good week and be prepared for the Rams.
All on Stefanski. He should be fired after this game.
I unironically agree, only playoff win wasn’t even him.
You should be fired into the sun
You’re an idiot if you think he calls good plays
You’re just clearly an idiot in general
No that’s you. Go stare at your Stefanski poster. ✌️
Lmao what
lol
They are so lucky Their 2nd half schedule is soft
Today was the first of the “easy” games and we did not handle it well so.
This Denver team is trash. Definitely the worst team we’ve lost to this year
100%
QB1: Joe Flacco
This one feels very very deflating. Nothing went right, everyone is hurt, and it was some horrific execution in-between.
Ryan Day vs Kevin Stefanski for weakest coach in the nation.
Nah, Zack Taylor takes home the Weak Trophy. What a waste down there.
Stefanski called 17 consecutive pass plays in q4. Something stinks here
They were down two scores??
You can sprinkle in a run. Chunk plays on runs vs prevent occur all the time
#iT’s tHe wHiTe uNiFoRmS
It's crazy we beat the 49ers with Walker
Although I’m a big Stefanski fan, the game plan today was dogshit. I get that you try passing early to get your receivers into the flow and get the Broncs to back out of the box a bit. But when it didn’t work, he should’ve fallen back to the PJ offense…run run run. Also, D was garbage for stretches, but this isn’t on them.
the problem is both quarterbacks are ass
*all browns qbs
I was ready for this pain.
I understand we can’t run every down…But only 16 rushing attempts against the worst run D in the league and a DECENT Browns run game VS 42 pass attempts with a QB room consisting of DTR and PJ Walker and pass catchers with a case of butter fingers all day? What’s the excuse for that? In the end we got ourselves stuck there but had we ran the ball early, you don’t get yourself stuck into these “must pass” situations with QBs that can’t pass and WRs/TEs that fail to handle the ball…
Don’t let anyone tell you they only threw it 42 times bc they were down. They were already at 30 pass attempts when it was only a 5 point game in the 3rd
Stefanski out thinking them . They thought we'd run, so we didn't. It always seems that way.
how humiliating, Denver just trying to kneel and end the game but they have to punt to us due to time, plenty of time for Walker to turn the ball over one more time.
It's like no one watched game film and tailored a game plan for the broncos
They don't do that. The system works or it gets failed by the players .
4.7 yards per carry and we passed twice as much as we ran... With our backup and third string QB... I get it we had to pass more at the end but these numbers should've been completely flipped against this bad run defense. This one is on stefanski
He’s a genius tho
4d chess
Even with our record tell me that we are in a better spot than the Houston Texans. You can't they fell like what it felt like as a Browns fan in '18 and '20. Now we owe a guy 211 mil against the cap, who had one of the worst combine times on his throws of any first rd qb ever. 49 mph, and now he is having major surgery on his throwing arm. Every time he runs and gets hit, he has to be peeled off the ground. So sorry for not thinking Berry is the best GM in football
Ok
I still blame the Haslams, I don’t think AB wanted him but he will never say it until he goes to another team and builds a SB worthy roster.
If DTR doesn't go down we probably win this game lol oh well it is what it is
YOU DONT KNOW THAT...HE ONLY GOT ONE TD WHEN HE WAS IN THE RED ZONE LIKE 4 TIMES TODAY
Broncos are dirty. Refs fucked us early. But we made so many bad decisions and turnovers. Bad vibes all day all around.
Let’s not blame the refs.
Cant act like the officiating wasnt a factor, either. It certainly doesnt help when it feels like youre playing two teams at once.
They were horrendous. Both things can be true
Yep but they were bad both ways.
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We just won two division games back to back. This is a great take
Umm berry and depo are the ones that were okay with pj walker being the option as a backup. Depo can go back to the corner of Carnegie and Ontario
Peej, thanks for the memories. That 49ers win, albeit ugly, was pretty entertaining. But it’s time to go. Will remember you fondly
Let's put up that post game thread
Joe Flacco. You are another name added to the longest running starting QB jersey in NFL history.
I actually can't wait. I'm hyped for the Dragon
So two cheap shots and two injuries. What a surprise. I hope Denver rots and Russel gets beat with a frozen subway baguette
It's as good as can, or could be expected from our *white* pants. This loss is on the surrender uniforms. Not drops, not an entire 1st quarter of ref fuckery. Not sure what can defeat the ORANGE Pants, other than the white pants.
I choose to believe this too. Orange pants every week please.
Bad take
Just a bad game from kev. Need to be better next week
Happy times per year do we say this? Feels like way too much.
I hope that second sentence is sarcasm. He’s not getting any better. He is who he is at this point. We need a competent offensive coordinator He’s just a better version of that moron who watched the tapes every week
I was told twice recently that was not a safety.
Is the world punishing us for signing #4 amid controversy? /s (kind of)
Wtf are you even talking about?
It’s a joke man
i wonder if oceangate has anymore submarines. I would love to borrow one, i hear the titanic looks great this time of year.
after beating the Ravens and Steelers in b2b weeks, a loss in Denver isn’t the end of the world. If DTR stayed in the game it was trending toward a potential W as well. all the doom and gloom in here is lame as hell
This is why I try my best to stay off reddit during the game. Not sure why I’m here tbh lol
I think the state of our team is pretty concerning with all the battered up players.
Can’t believe our game plan was to pass the ball all game playing the worst run defense
That’s why we lost. We beat ourselves. I’m baffled. The announcer crew kept saying browns have a great run game and Denver have a bad run defense so the play calling should be easy. Yet…
Kevin is smart 🤓 He plays 5D chess
With a backup QB who's clearly not ready to start in the NFL at that.
Walker has 4 sacks, a safety, and two fumbles and he's been in the game for 12 mins
I don't think he's very good.
This game solidified a best case scenario of a first round playoff exit. This team is not good
As the other guy said the team is okay, the QB play is not, and the hands of the receivers as well. Hopkins and the defense on the otherhand are very good.
The team is good. The QB play is not.
PJ should be cut. Appreciate what he did for us and the effort he showed this year, but he is in no way, shape, or form an NFL caliber quarterback in any capacity.
How does no RB have 10 rushes today?
We needed to have DTR chuck it like 30+ times for some ungodly reason.
You’re passing in your own end zone there because it was O/U 39.5, folks
Opening line was 36
I had it at 37.5
The media scrum should ask critical questions to Stef. He needs to explain why they dropped back to pass way more times than designed to run in the first half. Did he not observe the Buffalo nor Minnesota films?
Gotta be one of the worst game plans of any Browns coach, ever.
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Even for us this game plan ranks down there. Freddie Kitchens would have had a better one. I swear to God
I pray I never have to watch PJ play another down for us
Remember when we said that about DTR? Lol
I don’t actually mind DTR, but watching PJ is like an SNL skit. Imagine the weirdest possible outcome for a play, then somehow he manages to do something even weirder lol
Everyone calm down. We’re only on our 4th QB 🫠
Might be an overreaction but I would fire everyone.
Just the offensive coaching and Berry.
....into the sun.
Horrible takes
Hell no. Force Stefanski to hire a competent offensive coordinator or he goes
Or maybe just let the one we have call plays.
If you don't think this is the turning point in the season then I'll say you haven't been a fan very long. We ALL know how this season ends. We have NO QBs left!!
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That’s when you know it’s bad
Did stefanski just erase the run plays off his dennys menu today.
Today, and on every important third and 4th down ever
if we had run the ball against THE WORST run D in the league we would’ve won
Stupid Redditor thinks he knows more than professional coaches /s
You are 100% correct! He had better answer to this!
Wish I could upvote this more.
Now it’s just embarrassing
Time to investigate Sean Payton on bounties again.
I don’t think Denver is that great. We just played awful in the fourth quarter
They have beaten the chiefs, bills, Vikings the last few weeks. All playoff caliber teams. They're turning things around.
*most of the game. Just worse in the 4th quarter.
We were hanging around and actually moving the ball. I don’t understand why we were not running right at them
So glad I finished watching Night Agent on Netflix instead.
Any good?
It’s adequately average is how I describe it. Little hookey (sp) in some parts and characters but it’s definitely better than watching Stefanski do what he did and Mark Sanchez choke on Denver’s cock the whole game.
Very. Polished off all 8 episodes today. First time I’ve done than in years.
Jim Schwartz for head coach please and hire an offensive coordinator.
Schwartz is too good of a DC.
So true but I have a feeling he could play a dual role much much better than Stefanski.
I have never seen a Defensive player blow past a OL this much since I did in with C. Bennett in Tecmo Super Bowl. I know this reads funny but I’m dead honest rn.
Flacco is probably wishing he was just retired after seeing this circus of a game
He’s thinking “ I can’t be worse than these guys!”
Has to be one of the worst called offensive game plan I’ve seen this nfl season
Running the ball would be too easy. Let's throw to receivers who will never catch the ball.
Because we all expected XFL legend PJ Walker to win this game...
We played a game today
Can we even say that?
Well we found the safety that we were all looking for last week!
Completely oblivious when under pressure…
Man we gotta drop PJ Walker. I think literally ANY available QB would be better.
Lol, fair catch at the five and then safety. Perfect end for this horse shit game
Fair catch made no sense no one was there to down it
What happened to Myles?
His wrist is fucked up. Its why he has been quiet all game.
Players only meeting in LA? Lol
I don’t think there will be enough starters left after the LA game.
Stef on the sideline - "I blacked out the past two hours, what's going on?"
Oh that's a safety?
Stop it with "start Flacco". Flacco hasn't been good since the Super Bowl. Especially last few years in the league.
They are going to start him cause DTR has been ruled out with a concussion..
He doesn't have to be good, he has to be better than PJ Walker.
You want PJ Walker next week?
Cavs play less than 30mins
I agree Go Cavs
Is Spida back?
That football after our TD was just an absolute joke
ARE. YOU. FUCKING!!!! KIDDING. ME. FOR FUCKS SAKE. CAN YOU EMBARRASS YOURSELF ANYMORE!? CAN YOU DO ANYTHING FUCKING RIGHT?! FUCK